I really enjoyed this conversation with Garry. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 1:33 - Love of winning and hatred of losing 4:54 - Psychological elements 9:03 - Favorite games 16:48 - Magnus Carlsen 23:06 - IBM Deep Blue 37:39 - Morality 38:59 - Autonomous vehicles 42:03 - Fall of the Soviet Union 45:50 - Putin 52:25 - Life
If a human evolves to understand everything about our existence, scientifically and emotionally, then he/she knows how to play the game (power vs survival), without letting their emotions take control. One's past memories can manipulate one's present thinking, that affects one's ability to focus on a particular task(s). I think, when a machine is capable of expressing emotions, it could be the downfall of the human race. Because we as humans, tend to use our emotions as a tool for seduction (control) and/or isolation (superiority). An open mind, in my opinion, is one that keeps emotions from being created for personal gains. Collective intelligence, is the key to progress. That, to me, is the definition of winning the game of life...
@@tunestar I remember he said AlphaZero comes from the game's most principal rules without any restrictions, just like himself. He doesn't want to comment himself.
Dude, can we just like trade places? I live in a litter strewn flat in the south of the UK, basically with a smartphone for company. Lots of interesting crap on the floor, if you can engage with such stuff.. Appealsaballs?
@DM Blackgvard Hesitation and "Fear of Mistakes" are certainly not the same thing. A fear of mistakes is almost certainly a mistake, but hesitation may certainly be a winning move imho. Maybe not in chess.. I'm not a chess player ;)
What a vapid thing to say. One of those things that seem smart at first glance, but when you begin to even scratch the surface it disintegrates into a cloud of utter meaninglessness. And I'm pretty sure Kasparov would agree.
"The match in 1997 wasn't the first match I lost against a computer, it was the first match I lost, period." Holy shit, this really highlights just how freaking dominant he was in his career, I mean, just WOW! What a legend!!
@@sudarshangopinathan5904 Sounds like you failed to understand the interview. One can lose to a better player, or lose due to own mistakes. Losing to a better opponent may very well be the first time for him, but not his first loss.
"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk Couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.
Garry for me is the greatest of all time. He is a true genius. OK he made some mistakes, but not many and don't forget when he lost the second match against Deep blue, he wasn't playing one man or woman, but a team and a machine, who knew all his moves, all his openings, all his middle and end game strategies. Garry was not allowed to see Deep blues matches on the run up to the matches so couldn't study it in the same way, and he did win the first match. I think if Garry was at his peak today, the likes of Carlsen, MVL, Dubov, Nakamura etc... Would struggle to beat him. He was that good.
Further, after the first win, there was one loss and all draws until the last game. The only reason he lost that last game was because he played a bad move to try to force the computer out of its book. If he played his natural game it could've easily been another draw.
Lex you are killing ittt!!!, the calibre of the guests alone is enough to keep bringing me back but more so, you successfuly get most of your guests to a very honest and comfortable position to speak from which allows for these brilliant, natural convos. Thanks for the great content
He is a very open guy. Enjoys many things and he is a very social dude, he is also a great speaker. Current chess players are great in playing chess, but are extremelly boring to listen to.
Yeah, it was genuinely (and surprisingly) awe-inspiring to hear him say Dota. One of my idols in Chess recognising this other related but distant topic that I am also really involved in
@ladiesman217 # How do you know it's not? There is a finite amount of it. There are rules (physics) that define its boundaries. And that we know of, we can't transfer mass or energy from our universe, to someplace out of it. Just because it's a complex system with huge amount of variables, doesn't mean it's not closed.
@@santishorts I think he's making a semantic distinction between "universe" and "multiverse", first off; the |idea of a "multiververse"|, itself, being a derivative which is implicit of a fundamentally quantum mechanical conception of |the question of|: "what 'is' is", second off.
It’s heartbreaking that a man of such great caliber and accomplishment is today living away from his mother just because of the influence he carries and the political stance he holds
I like the fact that Lex Fridman clearly preps a lot of notes and wants to pursue specific points in a podcast interview. The free-form thing can be good too but I gotta say it is good to see a slightly more structured approach too.
There were quite a few gems in this conversation (eg. we have to switch from the mindset that there is a competition between humans and machines, to the mindset that machines are the best tool for solving closed-system type of problems), but, if I had to choose my favorite one, it would be Gary's message that, in the end, what drives us all is the desire to make a difference. 😊
I remember seeing that article in the news about deep blue defeating the world chess champion. The article inspired me to pickup a book and to pickup a book on how computers play chess and I learned about the minMax algorithm which is the way Stockfish still uses to calculate chess moves(some modification of it). To me Garry Kasparov was the inspiration for me to go into machine learning and study computer science and it was the first time I developed an interest in chess. Thank you Garry!
I love the fact that the whole football conversation started as an example how impossible it's to argue who's the best, and it immediately evolved into an arguement who's the best.
Very interesting interview - many thanks Lex- becoming a big fan of you and also Kasparov who I have annotated many games of. I think Kasparov is right about closed vs open systems. With a restricted rule set, computers can generally have the right sort of calculations and end up playing with less mistakes than humans. So the concept of more open systems where there pre-determined algorithms may not be effective is really interesting point made by Kasparov. I am also currently annotating many games on my channel of the open-source successor of Alpha-zero - the Leela lc0 project. Maybe you have heard of it. lc0 recently won the prestigious TCEC computer chess event - beating Stockfish by a big margin. The games are pretty fascinating to me. The neural network approach to chess seems to create a very different style of play, and it seems quite interesting new middlegame concept themes have been emerging such as "thorn pawns". It seems Leela (lc0) is playing a very positional long term strategy compared to more traditional AB engines. Currently this division in the chessworld between the traditional AB engines and Neural Networks is really spicing up the engine chess tournaments. Cheers, K
I would make a small adjustment to something Kasparov said: It's not about the rules, it's about hidden information. If a game has hidden information, humans will generally be superior at it to computers. It's why poker bots are garbage.
How in the world did you get Garry Kasparov on the show? Could you please share the backstory of what strings you pulled there? That alone is an outstanding accomplishment.
jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.
jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.
@@sashazxtt lol hoax? This has to be the dumbest conservative talking point. Bro there is so much direct, tangible evidence that arguing with anyone that says otherwise is a complete waste of time because they're most likely just assholes.
@@tima7756 There's none. Trump has done so much to piss off Russia. Hes occupying parts of Syria. He has plotted multiple coups in Venezuala and Bolivia. He assassinated Suleimani. None of these things would happen if he was a Putin puppet.
Thank you for this wonderful interview ! I just discovered it on your channel and it made me happy and sad at the same time... especially when considering the actual situation ... the cruel war of agression against Ukraine .... unfortunately the Russian dictator did not came to an end yet .... my ancestors are from ex Soviet Union and nationality wise we share the same roots as Garry and my family had always great respect and pride when speaking about Garry, who is representing a rare combination of a high intellect, humanistic believe and courage. Garry is fighting the Russian fascism and helping Ukraine ! Thank you ! Danke ! Спасибо ! Дякую ! Շնորհակալություն ! ! תוֹדָה
In our pasts, we were different people. If you were to bring the past self and the present self together and have them look each other in the eyes, tell each other what they're doing right and wrong, then continue their individual journeys to look at how they evolve separately, they will behave quite differently compared to their pasts based upon what they have seen and told. Any encounter towards the past/future self would have a highly reflective effect any one person. If anyone ever asks for an example, you probably don't even need a real life one; just look at Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.
"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk And I couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.
Thank you for turning me on to Chess. I am a beginner but I can feel my brain working. Its an amazing feeling. I’ll leave it at that for Chess. The books your podcast is introducing to me is incredible. You are making s difference in a middle aged man’s life.
Lex , all I got to say is thank you. Really respect what you do and its adding tremendous value to humanity, when alone on that run in the morning with the pleasant breeze thinking about life I want to you to know that you are playing the great part in evolution of so many people by elevating their thought process.
I noticed Garry pronounces the phrase “you know” with a British English accent, I don’t know why but I find this super funny everytime I hear it once I noticed 😂
I am incredibly impressed with this channel and the guests you have been able to get. I was so excited to see you got the legend Garry Kasparov on here! Well done.
@@YankeeDoodleDandy I thought the same thing, before I saw your comment as well. I don't know a lot about this guy but I'm assuming he learned English from the Brits, if he didn't speak if growing up.
Garry is a very special guy. Inspirational. Achieving greatness in one domain and then leveraging that greatness to have greater impact in wider society. In this he reminds me of Muhammad Ali who once said "Boxing was just a means to introduce me to the world". So too was chess for Garry. Thank you Lex and Garry!
The amount of knowledge and well rounded unique individuals lex has on his podcast brings so much wealth to the podcast industry. He is in my top 3 Thanks Lex
I learned more about AI from this interview than listening to any of the so-called experts. I am amazed at his brilliance on a variety of topics. Thank you Lex. Have him back again real soon. I want to know if he is an atheist or an agnostic.
Great Interview!! Couldn't really understand what Kasparov said to the Deep Blue issue. "It was not the first time I lost against a machine, it was the first time I lost ???"
I'm sure I could find out with some research but I really don't care but my favorite thing about Lex's podcast is that he doesn't push his political, religious, ect.ect. views. Always just asking questions looking for meaningful answers to the topic of conversation. His thirst for knowledge is what makes this a great podcast. I haven't seen a guest yet that didn't seem to greatly appreciate this and just enjoyed the fact seeking conversation. Keep up the great work sir!
Thanks for Garry Kasparow for his courage and for speaking truth to power. Hopefully he can return to Russia after this awful war against Ukraine ends. His words about Trump and Putin are so clear, true and convincing! Of course I knew that before, but the compelling way he says, it should convince everyone.
Lex, you are one of the most clever sience enterviewer I've ever seen untill now. With your questions, always really streight to the point, you really hit the core argumernt. always.. well done ++
This interview was awesome. Gary Kasparov is so smart and the answers shows that ... Thanks Lex for inviting him and creating another very different and very good interview job!
Mr Friedman this interview in particular is one of the best so far not only for having a humble and graceful genius but also because he gives the free world in a moment of blindness a real an honest answer of what socialism its all about. America needs to hear this keep it up Kasparov you a bigger Champion today God bless you
one thing that makes the difference in leaders such as Kasparov is their strong determination and focus on keep it until reaching their goals, that's a characteristic of good project managers as well
"Machines will always beat humans in closed systems" - insightful comment by Garry Kasparov. The way he reacts to the question of his loss against deep blue you can see he still hurts from that loss!
Rating: 8.6/10 In Short: Short and Powerful Notes: Garry and lex have some great chemistry, and lex does a great job interviewing here, especially considering this is one of the first 100 pods where he's a bit inconstant. Garry is so passionate and enthusiastic, and although not very humble, is somehow still kind and thoughtful. They dive quickly into some of lex's now classic chess questions, where here they kind of start the classicness of them, like 'who is the goat' and 'what do you think of AI beating human'. And better yet, Garry WAS the person that the AI first beat. Really cool to hear his thoughts on that. Their chess talk didnt get too in the weeds and was interesting even for me, someone who isnt a big chess enthusiast. Then they touch on russia very elegantly. But this pod was short, and could have been even better if it was longer. Would recommend to HAVE ON AGAIN, especially considering the russia/ukraine war and garry's influence.
Interesting whether Garry's thinking has changed on what falls under closed or open systems now with the advent of GPT-4 and Midjourney. They should do a other interview 😊
I strongly disagree with him on Trump. I do not see in what way Trump has been beneficial to Putin. Trump has said that he doesn't like Putin. He has warned countries not to rely on Russia for oil. Trump doesn't hate NATO, and he's not trying to destroy it. Trump simply asked for other countries to participate their fair share. Trump was a very successful president.
@@Carlos.Rivera Because we're democrat simps here in Europe (atleast the media & establishment is)... We get more biased news than they do in America... It's always the same, "Look how good the democrats are and how bad the republicans are"... People in Europe hating on trump couldn't name a single policy, couldn't give a single quote... That's what the media did... Look at Biden right now... I have yet to hear a single bad thing on the news here about Biden...
I’m really going back and forth analyzing this brown jacket/blue shirt combo but I’m leaning towards it looks pretty sharp but that is really hinging on the pants/shoes combo he paired with it. You are playing a dangerous game Kasparov
I really enjoyed this conversation with Garry. Here's the outline:
0:00 - Introduction
1:33 - Love of winning and hatred of losing
4:54 - Psychological elements
9:03 - Favorite games
16:48 - Magnus Carlsen
23:06 - IBM Deep Blue
37:39 - Morality
38:59 - Autonomous vehicles
42:03 - Fall of the Soviet Union
45:50 - Putin
52:25 - Life
If a human evolves to understand everything about our existence, scientifically and emotionally, then he/she knows how to play the game (power vs survival), without letting their emotions take control. One's past memories can manipulate one's present thinking, that affects one's ability to focus on a particular task(s). I think, when a machine is capable of expressing emotions, it could be the downfall of the human race. Because we as humans, tend to use our emotions as a tool for seduction (control) and/or isolation (superiority). An open mind, in my opinion, is one that keeps emotions from being created for personal gains. Collective intelligence, is the key to progress. That, to me, is the definition of winning the game of life...
@@tunestar I remember he said AlphaZero comes from the game's most principal rules without any restrictions, just like himself.
He doesn't want to comment himself.
Great conversation and always great questions. Thank you Lex and Garry.
@@tunestar I love this ego, because I also has similar ego for myself. Hahahaha!
Dude, can we just like trade places? I live in a litter strewn flat in the south of the UK, basically with a smartphone for company. Lots of interesting crap on the floor, if you can engage with such stuff.. Appealsaballs?
`Fear of mistakes guarantees mistakes` - Garry Kasparov
@DM Blackgvard Hesitation and "Fear of Mistakes" are certainly not the same thing. A fear of mistakes is almost certainly a mistake, but hesitation may certainly be a winning move imho. Maybe not in chess.. I'm not a chess player ;)
Time isn't time without notice. Yeah, anyone can talk nonsense.
one cannot not making mistakes...
What a vapid thing to say. One of those things that seem smart at first glance, but when you begin to even scratch the surface it disintegrates into a cloud of utter meaninglessness. And I'm pretty sure Kasparov would agree.
True. Not fearing mistakes also guarantees mistakes, though.
"The match in 1997 wasn't the first match I lost against a computer, it was the first match I lost, period." Holy shit, this really highlights just how freaking dominant he was in his career, I mean, just WOW! What a legend!!
Not really, he lost multiple times before to even Karpov and Ivanchuk
@@sudarshangopinathan5904 We're talking matches, not games. Forgive me if I believe Kasparov over you.
@@sudarshangopinathan5904 Sounds like you failed to understand the interview. One can lose to a better player, or lose due to own mistakes. Losing to a better opponent may very well be the first time for him, but not his first loss.
@@tistelnilsson that’s not the point, he lost individual GAMES to people but never a match, which is a series
he lost against Bobby Fisher folks.
Lex has not failed to bring in EXCEPTIONAL guests. Keep it up!
No joke.
Whats more impressive is his ability to interview excellent guests and get as much as he can out of them.
"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk
Couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.
this guy is an idiot
Speaking on Caruana: "Fifteen years ago I would have crushed him." Gotta love Kasparov.
He'll always have that killer instinct I guess :D
He's not wrong.
It is true that he got winning position after winning position in that match, but kept blundering in the endgame.
@@FrogSkull Time pressure. Gary is just slower in his old age. Happens to all the great players.
Caruana is a briliant player.
As an Englishman, I was constantly entertained with his English pronunciation of “you know”
I noticed that too.
You know it's 2020 when two russians are having a chat in english
Those two are obviously soviet spies!
So does the presidents of France and Germany. Soon they will speak in Chinese, like an ex-Australian president.
In the 19th century aristocratic Russians spoke French to each other
Tbf, neither of them is ethnically russian
@@NaumRusomarov Why is it unfortunate? Far more people understand English, it's not like they're losing their language lol
Garry for me is the greatest of all time. He is a true genius. OK he made some mistakes, but not many and don't forget when he lost the second match against Deep blue, he wasn't playing one man or woman, but a team and a machine, who knew all his moves, all his openings, all his middle and end game strategies. Garry was not allowed to see Deep blues matches on the run up to the matches so couldn't study it in the same way, and he did win the first match. I think if Garry was at his peak today, the likes of Carlsen, MVL, Dubov, Nakamura etc... Would struggle to beat him. He was that good.
Further, after the first win, there was one loss and all draws until the last game. The only reason he lost that last game was because he played a bad move to try to force the computer out of its book. If he played his natural game it could've easily been another draw.
Lex you are killing ittt!!!, the calibre of the guests alone is enough to keep bringing me back but more so, you successfuly get most of your guests to a very honest and comfortable position to speak from which allows for these brilliant, natural convos. Thanks for the great content
Charlie Bee this content feels like it is what the world needs. Thanks Lex
I think it's pretty cool Kasparov knows what DOTA is.
26:16
He is a very open guy. Enjoys many things and he is a very social dude, he is also a great speaker. Current chess players are great in playing chess, but are extremelly boring to listen to.
Also it’s huge in Russia (relative to other competitive e-sports outside of CS:GO)
Yeah, it was genuinely (and surprisingly) awe-inspiring to hear him say Dota. One of my idols in Chess recognising this other related but distant topic that I am also really involved in
@@TheLastWizardOfTheCentury-u7o have you ever heard Magnus during his interviews? He’s funny as hell
"machines will always beat humans at closed-system type problems or games. They don't have to solve them, they just have to make fewer mistakes"
wish Lex had followed up by asking, "is the universe a closed system?"
@ladiesman217 # How do you know it's not? There is a finite amount of it. There are rules (physics) that define its boundaries. And that we know of, we can't transfer mass or energy from our universe, to someplace out of it. Just because it's a complex system with huge amount of variables, doesn't mean it's not closed.
@ladiesman217 # Care to elaborate?
@@santishorts I think he's making a semantic distinction between "universe" and "multiverse", first off; the |idea of a "multiververse"|, itself, being a derivative which is implicit of a fundamentally quantum mechanical conception of |the question of|: "what 'is' is", second off.
@ladiesman217 # 618>217 😆
to me, joe rogan is about entertainment, and lex is about pure well-intentioned, good-hearted curiosity. i love it.
Then DTFH is about spirituality
Lex isn’t trying to teach the experts. Lol
Except when you mention da joose, then good intentions go out the window
To me, Rogan is about getting to know the person and Lex is about getting to know the ideas.
Do you still have the same opinion with modern JRE?
Lex "Forgive me for Romanticizing the Notion" Fridman
ro?
@@tiagomota4734 si
Andre "Lex Fridman's fashion advisor" Munteanu
Lex lingering on that idea fridman
Lex "what is the meaning of love" Fridman
Kasparov is such an intriguing person.When he speaks he doesnt waste a word.So efficient in explaining his thought
I can't imagine a more satanic "person" (man, actually).
Lex "I do what I can" Fridman.. excellent, two passionate people, gotta love the both of you
this is incredible.. you really have the best podcast and the best guests.. keep it up
Oh man between this and Lenny Susskind you are really getting on some good guests. My all time favorite chess player this man is a genius! Thank you!
@@bauisadatiki2213 Care to elaborate? :)
It’s heartbreaking that a man of such great caliber and accomplishment is today living away from his mother just because of the influence he carries and the political stance he holds
Yes it's sad how much some of these lefties have gone completely insane. Covid has exacerbated that problem 100 fold.
Pushing le figurine left and right doesn't make one an expert on life, universe and everything.
im sure his mother is better off without him
@@jebespolitiko so what does, wise bald man?
This was such an easy podcast to listen to, Gary is a great talker and really holds your attention well.
I like the fact that Lex Fridman clearly preps a lot of notes and wants to pursue specific points in a podcast interview. The free-form thing can be good too but I gotta say it is good to see a slightly more structured approach too.
Things I love about these podcasts is the consistent design and thought given to the podcast structure and thoughtful questions. Really nailing it.
This man has more energy than most people 1/4 his age.
Thank you Mr Kasperov.
There were quite a few gems in this conversation (eg. we have to switch from the mindset that there is a competition between humans and machines, to the mindset that machines are the best tool for solving closed-system type of problems), but, if I had to choose my favorite one, it would be Gary's message that, in the end, what drives us all is the desire to make a difference. 😊
I remember seeing that article in the news about deep blue defeating the world chess champion. The article inspired me to pickup a book and to pickup a book on how computers play chess and I learned about the minMax algorithm which is the way Stockfish still uses to calculate chess moves(some modification of it). To me Garry Kasparov was the inspiration for me to go into machine learning and study computer science and it was the first time I developed an interest in chess. Thank you Garry!
I love the fact that the whole football conversation started as an example how impossible it's to argue who's the best, and it immediately evolved into an arguement who's the best.
It's Messi.
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Very interesting interview - many thanks Lex- becoming a big fan of you and also Kasparov who I have annotated many games of. I think Kasparov is right about closed vs open systems. With a restricted rule set, computers can generally have the right sort of calculations and end up playing with less mistakes than humans. So the concept of more open systems where there pre-determined algorithms may not be effective is really interesting point made by Kasparov. I am also currently annotating many games on my channel of the open-source successor of Alpha-zero - the Leela lc0 project. Maybe you have heard of it. lc0 recently won the prestigious TCEC computer chess event - beating Stockfish by a big margin. The games are pretty fascinating to me. The neural network approach to chess seems to create a very different style of play, and it seems quite interesting new middlegame concept themes have been emerging such as "thorn pawns". It seems Leela (lc0) is playing a very positional long term strategy compared to more traditional AB engines. Currently this division in the chessworld between the traditional AB engines and Neural Networks is really spicing up the engine chess tournaments. Cheers, K
Always love to see youtubers I enjoy unexpectedly appearing in the same space. Fan of your work KC!
@@aliciabaumgartner1406 nice! 🤙
Been watching your videos for over a decade! Cheers from the IS mate, you’re great.
Where did you go?, don't see your streams
One of my favorite Lex interviews, hands down. Garry is so inspiring. Спасибо!
Please do an interview with Garry again! He is a very smart and honest person.
George Hotz, Kai-Fu Lee, Elon Musk, Michio Kaku, Garry Kasparov, etc.
Damn o_O - what amazing guests you always have !
Who is michio kaku? Some fake TV scientist
I would make a small adjustment to something Kasparov said: It's not about the rules, it's about hidden information. If a game has hidden information, humans will generally be superior at it to computers. It's why poker bots are garbage.
OMG! Garry Kasparov on Lex Fridman, what an exciting episode we're witnessing!
Hearing Kasparov say DOTA, is something I never thought I would hear!
Epic.
Love your podcasts but dude your introductions sounds like you are talking about someone who died.
He kills them as soon as the camera cuts
Yeah I always skip the intros, seems waayy too serious
you guys have vivid fantasies...
Hahaha. He is a man possessed with gravitas.
Its called formality. Maybe
How in the world did you get Garry Kasparov on the show? Could you please share the backstory of what strings you pulled there? That alone is an outstanding accomplishment.
@fallensummit Haha, actually probably it is almost that simple.
One of the very few interviews that shows Kasparov as a brilliant intellectual rather than an a below-average politician.
jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.
jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.
@@sashazxtt Dear god
@@sashazxtt lol hoax? This has to be the dumbest conservative talking point. Bro there is so much direct, tangible evidence that arguing with anyone that says otherwise is a complete waste of time because they're most likely just assholes.
@@tima7756 There's none. Trump has done so much to piss off Russia. Hes occupying parts of Syria. He has plotted multiple coups in Venezuala and Bolivia. He assassinated Suleimani. None of these things would happen if he was a Putin puppet.
I've had the opportunity to meet Garry once, an amazing person.
"I can fight every opponent but not my biological clock". - Garry Kasparov
Thank you for this wonderful interview ! I just discovered it on your channel and it made me happy and sad at the same time... especially when considering the actual situation ... the cruel war of agression against Ukraine .... unfortunately the Russian dictator did not came to an end yet .... my ancestors are from ex Soviet Union and nationality wise we share the same roots as Garry and my family had always great respect and pride when speaking about Garry, who is representing a rare combination of a high intellect, humanistic believe and courage. Garry is fighting the Russian fascism and helping Ukraine ! Thank you ! Danke ! Спасибо ! Дякую ! Շնորհակալություն ! ! תוֹדָה
This needs a part II
I love how he refers to his past self as another person.
In our pasts, we were different people. If you were to bring the past self and the present self together and have them look each other in the eyes, tell each other what they're doing right and wrong, then continue their individual journeys to look at how they evolve separately, they will behave quite differently compared to their pasts based upon what they have seen and told. Any encounter towards the past/future self would have a highly reflective effect any one person. If anyone ever asks for an example, you probably don't even need a real life one; just look at Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.
Tesseract A both of you should look into Episodic vs. Diachronic memories.
The longest living cell in the human body is 7 years. So every 7 years u have a new body. If u are 49 you are on your 7th body.
He covered all the topics so well that we don’t even need a second vid.
One of great thinkers of our time
And Garry Kasparov)
@@ВикторФирсов-е9ф don't do Gary like that🤣
"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk
And I couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.
Thank you for turning me on to Chess. I am a beginner but I can feel my brain working. Its an amazing feeling. I’ll leave it at that for Chess. The books your podcast is introducing to me is incredible. You are making s difference in a middle aged man’s life.
It's really a pleasure watching lex ask questions he speaks so elegantly!! Mr Kasparov also answered very calmly
What a mind-blowing starting question which segues into an awesome conversation!
I got a pleasure to attend Garry Kasparov's lecture in Toronto, Canada and now I can recall it. Thank you very much for great job as always Lex.
Lex , all I got to say is thank you. Really respect what you do and its adding tremendous value to humanity, when alone on that run in the morning with the pleasant breeze thinking about life I want to you to know that you are playing the great part in evolution of so many people by elevating their thought process.
Damn! Gary has such intuitive understanding of the nature of AI even without being a researcher, and also about most things in general, what a genius.
@@bauisadatiki2213 where is he wrong
@ensayofr wrong on what?
Haha, Garry reminds me so much of my Armenian dad, the expressions, volume and drama when talking :)
Right? You can tell he is Armenian by watching him speak for about 2 seconds haha
I thinka many armenians have big energy
I like how Garry says "you know", sounds like a sophisticated British person.
I noticed Garry pronounces the phrase “you know” with a British English accent, I don’t know why but I find this super funny everytime I hear it once I noticed 😂
Haha I was noticing that too, also with "so" and some other words. Interesting amalgamation of Russian and English accents
It's a Nigel short in his brain circuits
I've never seen so much character development in 55 minutes. The Despicable Me series is truly amazing.
I am incredibly impressed with this channel and the guests you have been able to get. I was so excited to see you got the legend Garry Kasparov on here! Well done.
How! I could listen to Garry all day. Amazing conversation Alex!
Thank you for asking him those questions in the way you did. I hope it allows people to see the opinion of others they might look up to.
Found you from your interview with Coffeezilla and so excited to see you'd interviewed Kasparov!!! Perfect to listen to after reading Deep Thinking
he has a russian accent until he says "you know"
ya noew
His accent sounds like British English to me.
@@YankeeDoodleDandy I thought the same thing, before I saw your comment as well. I don't know a lot about this guy but I'm assuming he learned English from the Brits, if he didn't speak if growing up.
Garry is a very special guy. Inspirational. Achieving greatness in one domain and then leveraging that greatness to have greater impact in wider society. In this he reminds me of Muhammad Ali who once said "Boxing was just a means to introduce me to the world". So too was chess for Garry. Thank you Lex and Garry!
The amount of knowledge and well rounded unique individuals lex has on his podcast brings so much wealth to the podcast industry. He is in my top 3
Thanks Lex
I just wanted to sincerely say: thank you Garry and thank you Lex.
fucking welcum
I learned more about AI from this interview than listening to any of the so-called experts.
I am amazed at his brilliance on a variety of topics.
Thank you Lex. Have him back again real soon.
I want to know if he is an atheist or an agnostic.
This man is brilliant !!! And he is still absolutely a great conversationalist !! Thanks Mr. Lex keep it up !
Great interview, one has to admire the courage to speak so directly on Putin.
@@sashazxtt what? Money has nothing to do with it.
@@sashazxtt what goes money do? What are his motives? What does? What does!!! I don't know what does!
@@sashazxtt tell it to Soloviev and Simonyan
Great Interview!!
Couldn't really understand what Kasparov said to the Deep Blue issue. "It was not the first time I lost against a machine, it was the first time I lost ???"
Just wow, you really got his temper on fire! The first move brilliantly chosen. Fascinating to witness this interview.
Totally inspiring listening to the way Kasparov explains his points
14:30 in Sweeden we had a extrordinary downhill skier Ingmar Stenmark, who used to say:
- as moore I train the moore "luck" I seem to have.
I'm sure I could find out with some research but I really don't care but my favorite thing about Lex's podcast is that he doesn't push his political, religious, ect.ect. views. Always just asking questions looking for meaningful answers to the topic of conversation. His thirst for knowledge is what makes this a great podcast. I haven't seen a guest yet that didn't seem to greatly appreciate this and just enjoyed the fact seeking conversation. Keep up the great work sir!
1:54 Gary's infectious laugh never changes and never ceases to amuse me.
41:57
Thanks for Garry Kasparow for his courage and for speaking truth to power. Hopefully he can return to Russia after this awful war against Ukraine ends. His words about Trump and Putin are so clear, true and convincing! Of course I knew that before, but the compelling way he says, it should convince everyone.
Trump got an election stolen from him and then Russia went to war.
What a conversation? Absolutely fantastic. Thanks Lex for bringing him in your podcast :)
Immitation before innovation is some of the best advice ive ever heard in my life and ive applied it to my life for many years.
Lex, you are one of the most clever sience enterviewer I've ever seen untill now. With your questions, always really streight to the point, you really hit the core argumernt. always.. well done ++
This interview was awesome. Gary Kasparov is so smart and the answers shows that ... Thanks Lex for inviting him and creating another very different and very good interview job!
it would be great to have 2nd round with him now
Mr Friedman this interview in particular is one of the best so far not only for having a humble and graceful genius but also because he gives the free world in a moment of blindness a real an honest answer of what socialism its all about. America needs to hear this keep it up Kasparov you a bigger Champion today God bless you
24:20 “...was not the first match I lost to a machine. It was the first match I lost - period.”
“Oh wow!” ☠️
One of your smartest guests so far. Surprising, entertaining, refreshingly modest.
Should have done the interview while playing chess
He would get rekt
one thing that makes the difference in leaders such as Kasparov is their strong determination and focus on keep it until reaching their goals, that's a characteristic of good project managers as well
"Machines will always beat humans in closed systems" - insightful comment by Garry Kasparov. The way he reacts to the question of his loss against deep blue you can see he still hurts from that loss!
Thanks for no interrupting
When he mentioned Dota as one of the playgrounds for pitting machine vs humans I cried a little bit as an ex Dota enthusiast. 26:20
I really couldn't believe he even knew that game lol
Rating: 8.6/10
In Short: Short and Powerful
Notes: Garry and lex have some great chemistry, and lex does a great job interviewing here, especially considering this is one of the first 100 pods where he's a bit inconstant. Garry is so passionate and enthusiastic, and although not very humble, is somehow still kind and thoughtful. They dive quickly into some of lex's now classic chess questions, where here they kind of start the classicness of them, like 'who is the goat' and 'what do you think of AI beating human'. And better yet, Garry WAS the person that the AI first beat. Really cool to hear his thoughts on that. Their chess talk didnt get too in the weeds and was interesting even for me, someone who isnt a big chess enthusiast. Then they touch on russia very elegantly. But this pod was short, and could have been even better if it was longer. Would recommend to HAVE ON AGAIN, especially considering the russia/ukraine war and garry's influence.
Gary Kasparov was great, but i think Bobby Fischer at his peak was the greatest chess player of all time. Just my opinion.
I'm only 8 minutes in and Garry Kasparov is so quotable and much more eloquent than I anticipated
That was a wonderful interview. Thank you!
Very well spoken. Kasparov's insight on computers was highly intriguing!
Interesting whether Garry's thinking has changed on what falls under closed or open systems now with the advent of GPT-4 and Midjourney. They should do a other interview 😊
Two very intelligent people exchanging ideas. How great is to have this podcast available.
I strongly disagree with him on Trump. I do not see in what way Trump has been beneficial to Putin. Trump has said that he doesn't like Putin. He has warned countries not to rely on Russia for oil.
Trump doesn't hate NATO, and he's not trying to destroy it. Trump simply asked for other countries to participate their fair share.
Trump was a very successful president.
Europeans laughed at him... lets see how this winter sweep them
@@Carlos.Rivera indeed.
@@Carlos.Rivera Because we're democrat simps here in Europe (atleast the media & establishment is)... We get more biased news than they do in America... It's always the same, "Look how good the democrats are and how bad the republicans are"... People in Europe hating on trump couldn't name a single policy, couldn't give a single quote... That's what the media did... Look at Biden right now... I have yet to hear a single bad thing on the news here about Biden...
Wow you had kasparov on! My fav chess player of all time and a wise, brilliant man !!
Need him back on
that 960 tournament was awesome. Kasparov's still got it. that was the most excited ive been about a chess tournament in a long time.
What this guy says its so interesting. This has been my favorite guest so far. This guy is so likeble😁
The english of Gary is very good!!!
Chess might be not the pinnacle of human intelligence, but Kasparov is a very intelligent human being.
And, to my idea of ethics, a good man.
Amazing. It's absolutely amazing. Great interview. I'm a Lex Fridman fan now.
This is such a great interview. Thanks Lex.
I’m really going back and forth analyzing this brown jacket/blue shirt combo but I’m leaning towards it looks pretty sharp but that is really hinging on the pants/shoes combo he paired with it. You are playing a dangerous game Kasparov