Retro Emulation on a Nintendo 64
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Did you know your Nintendo 64 can be turned into an emulation station? It's true! Here are five different emulators you can try right now.
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Neon64: hcs64.com/neon64.html
GB64 (+wrapper): lambertjamesd.github.io/gb64/...
UltraMSX2: www.zophar.net/utilities/n64u...
UltraSMS: www.zophar.net/consoles/n64/s...
Sodium64: github.com/Hydr8gon/sodium64
0:00 - Introduction
1:28 - NES / Neon64
2:52 - Gameboy + Color / GB64
4:43 - MSX / UltraMSX2
5:18 - Game Gear / UltraSMS
5:54 - Super Nintendo / Sodium64
8:49 - Conclusion
Intro and outro music are existing works of Skylar Spence aka Saint Pepsi.
You can find his work here: skylarspence.net/
Background Music:
Funky Sea - Cruis'n Exotica OST
Underground Theme - Super Mario Bros 3 OST
Athletic Theme - Super Mario Land 2 OST
Island Theme 1 - Dig Dug Digging Strike OST
Music 1 - Psycho Fox OST
Mute City - F-Zero OST
Swimming - Super Mario 1 All-Stars OST
Level BGM - Waterworld OST (Virtual Boy)
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Holy crap, that SNES emulator is FAR too impressive. Even on the Xbox/Wii the SNES emulators had a bit of trouble sometimes.
There's a good reason ZSNES runs well on a Pentium 1 while SNES9X needs at least a Pentium 3 1400 to run well.
@@fungo6631 yes, of course, accuracy (or the amount of assumptions the emulator does). That doesn't mean it's any less impressive, the results are reasonably accurate for the early state of the emulator.
I disagree. The leap in hardware from a technological perspective is *way* bigger between the N64 and SNES than, for instance, the Dreamcast and the PSX.
@rars0n To be fair, the Dreamcast isn't much later than the PS1.
Compare, instead, the N64 or PS1's direct successors, and you see a much larger jump...albeit, still not as large as the jump between the SNES and the first generation of true 3D consoles.
It's still quite impressive, as Emulation is an extremely taxing task for any system to do well. The original 3DS, as an example, is closer to the Gamecube than anything else, but struggles with some SNES titles.
@@shiftfire4511 The Dreamcast could do PS1 emulation thanks to HLE.
Fun fact: there was an official planned Famicom compilation game for the Nintendo 64, but it was cancelled before release
Is there a ROM leaked at least?
@@vladimirchizhov3260 sadly not
How exactly is that fun?
What games were in it?
@@raymxslappedyall1891 yea, I found no fun in that fact, or any for that matter. Seem like a lowkey soy way of presenting useless facts.
These emulators were actually really surprising how well they ran! What a neat little scene for the N64. Another great chill video Frame!
I'd imagine they're also pretty inaccurate/hacky compared to modern emulators...you could technically play NES games on a 486 for example, but the old emulators used a lot of hacks/shortcuts to emulate games at a playable speed so they were nowhere near as accurate as something like Nestopia for instance.
I was more blown away by the Wii being able to emulate N64 games. And Xbox 360 being able to emulate Xbox One games.
@@wizzgamer Well, considering you could emulate popular first-party games like OOT on a Pentium II in UltraHLE in 98/99, the Wii emulating the handful of N64 games it did wasn't really technically remarkable, and even then there were a lot of per-game hacks for emulation speed.
@@yellowblanka6058 It was on par with a Pentium II though and I trouble emulating PS1 games on a Pentium III.
The fact that the N64 could even emulate its predecessor at all is quite impressive. Now if it can emulate something like Neo Geo or some late 80s-early 90s arcade games, that would REALLY impress me.
It happened with other concoles, the Dreamcast could emulate PS1 for example. And did it better than the PS2 did natively.
that is just complete bs sorry man, unless you're compaing it to popstarter@@wyterabitt2149
Honestly, it's not all that impressive. The N64 came out 5 years after the SNES, right at a time when technology was *rapidly* advancing. That is to say, the 5 years between the NES and SNES wasn't nearly as much of a technological leap as the 5 years between the SNES and the N64. Consider also that the SNES was pretty much a cost-reduced design (I believe Nintendo intended to have hardware backwards compatibility with the NES, which is one of the reasons why it used a much slower 6502-based CPU rather than the Motorola 68k that everyone else was using at the time, including Apple). Even if we compare nothing but the clock speed, it's not even close: the SNES CPU is 3.58 MHz compared to the N64's 93.75 MHz, which was the fastest CPU of any console at the time. That's over 26 times the clock speed, and while such a comparison is basically meaningless, it is demonstrative of the different design criteria of the two consoles. Nintendo was swinging for the fences with the N64, which was not exactly the case with the SNES.
@@wyterabitt2149the Wii U can play every of its predecessor except the 3DS thats fucking impresive thats the ultimate retro Nintendo console player
Wii can emulate N64 and Xbox 360 can emulate Xbox 1 that's way more impressive.
This is like an alt history where people started doing emulation in the 90's
Wym? they did
I never would have thought the 64 could run any SNES game at a reasonable speed. Pretty impressive!
Nice video! Regarding the Z button in sodium64, it's a recent addition that basically rearranges certain graphics. It's meant to be a workaround for games that would otherwise be unplayable due to a lack of blending. I updated the readme with a summary of controls to hopefully clear things up a bit!
Awesome! Thanks a bunch. 👍
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This shows how powerful the N64 is. I was amazed when I bought mine in 96. It was able to render games my upgraded Pentium couldn’t.
That has nothing to do with it. PCs can't run some emulators well because the smarter PCs get the less able they are to run "dumb" era games without doing alot of work. The N64 isn't upgraded, only lived for 5 years and is technically "dumb" so it has an easier time running older games.
Thats the hilarious thing everything PC elite go on about how amazing BC is on PC LMFAO, no its not really considering the amount of work and tricking new computers is needed to play old games because games get to be too dumb for current PCs.
@@lutherheggs451 I don’t understand any of this.
@@lutherheggs451 shut up dude lmao. there's no other platform that can emulate as well as a PC. what other options do you have besides expending a shit ton of money on rare games and consoles?
@@lutherheggs451 it's not about the perceived dumbness of older hardware, it's because these old consoles exist using entirely different architecture. translating that different architecture into something typical PCs can understand is the entire point of emulation. low level emulation is very processor intensive. you wouldn't call somebody dumb because they speak a different language and need to be translated for you to understand them, would you
Ngl, the sound the Donkey Kong Country map theme has at 6:57 honestly slaps.
Just being able to emulate the NES alone makes it worthwhile. There are so many cool ways to play retro games nowadays!
8:21 haha wow, seeing EWJ with the broken purple background takes me back. Used to be an extremely common glitch when emulating the game on ZSNES.
A video about the emulators on the GBA would be great, because it has a fair amount of them.
nice to see a fellow Ashita No Joe fan here
Back in the day, I used to play MAME on the N64. This must have been around 1998 or so. I owned (and still own) a Doctor V64 N64 rom copier/development system. There were two releases of this, with a bunch of games on each. There were very few ways of playing MAME back then so it was pretty exciting to see this released back then. I'm not even sure if these MAME N64 roms are floating around these says or not. If not I will do my best to dig them up and put them somewhere where it'll be "archived".
Yeah. Did you ever try the N64 port of SNES9x? It was a slideshow! Remember the demo from Snake & McBane with two emulated Game Boys textured onto the side of a spinning cube? Pretty sure it was a Presence of Mind coding competition entry. I still have my V64 stuff too. :)
I love things like this. It's objectively a waste of time when literal ewaste PCs have significantly better performance, but subjectively? It's so fun! There's something about emulating games on very weak hardware that's very appealing and I don't even know why.
Wow, very impressed with Sodium64. I see it being quite playable for PAL games
I had no clue there were any other emulators for the N64 besides that zx spectrum emulator Rare made & Krikzz’s nes core for his newer everdrives. It’s amazing to hear that snes emulation on the N64 is a thing & I’m excited to see more about it once it gets another major update
Another method for playing GB/C games on N64 is the Standalone Stadium GB Emulator which isolates the GB emulator in Pokemon Stadium 2 intended only for use with the Pokemon GB games, and allows you to play with any GB cart via the Transfer Pak.
There are limitations however, the ROM size can't be too big because for most games it has to load the entire game to the N64 memory rather than stream data like it could with the Pokemon games, and I personally had some reliability issues with the Transfer Pak maintaining a secure connection during data transfer. The GB64 emulator would be a better choice for actually playing games but it's cool to see a bit more of the Transfer Pak's potential.
I hate myself for instantly recognizing a track from Waterworld on Virtual Boy haha
Why? Ain't it a richasfuck game now due to rarity?
The newest NES core from Krikz is very good. That with a blueretro receiver, and an 8bitdo NES bluetooth controller is the best way to play NES games on a higher end CRT as the n64 outputs S-Video natively and can do RGB and component when modded (Component being with the HD Retrovision SNES cables).
there is a rare accessory called tristar 64 that allowed actual nes & snes cartridges on the n64.
There also exist a rom of Mame for the N64 with a few games built in. I works surprisingly well though only runs arcade games from.the early 80's
Neat concept, cool to see it's fairly practical too.
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If something like the SNES could be run on an N64, I believe the Genesis could very well work on this thing. Every spec of the Genesis except the processor speed is inferior to the SNES so I believe a Genesis emulator would work well in this.
That's cool. Didn't know this option was there!
Nice video. Love the shoutout too. ;)
I still have my Doctor V64 from back in the ‘90s. A couple of the emulators I tried on it back in the day:
Official port of SNES9x, though it was a slideshow
A spinning cube demo from Snake & McBane with two different emulated Game Boy instances textured on the sides (along with images of Snake & McBane from The Simpsons). No sound.
There was also the GB Hunter and Nintendo’s own GB emulator in Pokemon Stadium.
I also had a MGD³ setup with V64jr and Multi-Xchanger. It had a GB slot for flashing the Doctor GB Card from the N64 but I don’t think anyone ever used that for playing GB games on N64. They certainly could have.
This is exciting! I hope that SNES emulator continues to see development. Man, I wonder if GBA is in the realm of possibility. Probably not.
Definitely not but there was the Wideboy Advance for N64 with a built-in GBA.
It could be a possibility, as I do remember at various handheld like GP2X or PSP, it was always the SNES that was struggling (at least with the heavier games) but the GBA was doing so much better for some reason. Which seemed strange to me at the time as GBA had beefier CPU and more rendering features than SNES. But smaller resolution and maybe easier to emulate it's video modes (snes had bitplanes in the tiles, GBA more linear framebuffer but also tiles but without bitplanes). Anyway, I see a lot of old systems had trouble emulating SNES at good speed, even if they already figured out other later systems.
You should do a current Wii emulation video. A lot has changed I am sure.
From a practical standpoint, just about any modern emulation handheld/Raspberry Pi etc. is going to offer a lot more power than the Wii for emulation so outside of the novelty aspect it hardly seems worth it, but that's just my take.
Not a bad idea.
PS1 emulation got a new lease with WiiStation, with 240p and full speed in most games, CTR almost hits full speed, its great. They implemented a new recompiler, Lightrec, but you do need to change between Dynarec and Lightrec depending on the game, Braindead 13 only runs with the Dynarec, while everything else Ive tested (Namco Museum 1-5, Skullmonkeys, Croc 1+2, and more) runs with Lightrec outstandingly well. The only real issue is using a GC controller, since it doesnt have enough buttons. @@FrameRater
@yellowblanka6058 The Wii *does* offer nice 240p output for emulation on CRTs, though. Pis from my knowledge require more workarounds for that kind of setup specifically.
For instance, the Pi5 ditched the 3.5mm jack that could've been used for composite, and the way to get it back through GPIO involves soldering. And that's just on the hardware side.
The Wii’s advantages over Pi:
> Easier Setup
> Can play GC/Wii
> Easy to get a decent video quality on most TVs except modern TVs that have ditched Component
> Cheaper since the market was flooded because the Wii was trendy
It's always interesting to see what these old systems can do with a little modding magic.
I know that the Nintendo 64 did emulate the Super Game Boy when you were able to play Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow in Pokemon Stadium and Gold/Silver/Crystal in Pokemon Stadium 2 with the use of the Transfer Pak. Donkey Kong 64 also had 2 retro games. The arcade Donkey Kong and Jetpak. But I never thought of the N64 running emulators like the Game Gear.
Thank you for making these! I have the NES Emulator for my Everdrive X7. I've always wanted to play some NES titles but never got around to it because I never grew up with NES. I was always curious to see how well the performance is on the X7. Since i didn't grow up with a NES, I want to know how well it emulates compared to the real thing.
I would not be surprised the chinees make multi cards for the n64 in the future.
That contains all kinds of games 😳, Did see now a days they have NES on them already.
6:22 Disney Pixar's Elemental?
Oh yeah underrated Super Nintendo classic
It's interesting to see a SNES emulator on the N64, one gen up. I'm not sure they can ever achieve decent compatibility though. It reminds me of the SNES emulator for the GBA. It didn't seem possible, but they had a handful of games working pretty well. Nothing with an enhancement chip, of course, and with many speed hacks and other tricks, and a large frame skip. There were also about 10-12 NES games that were made to work on the SNES. I have a friend with the scene group, ANTHROX, who helped code it, and he sent me some of them to test back in the 90's. It was surprising to see back then. This was before iNES, or any NES emulator. So it was kind of magical. ;)
The SNES emulator was particularly surprising since the official SNES9x N64 port from back then was an unplayable slide-show. I stubbornly spent an afternoon getting all the way into a Super Mario World level just so I could technically say I played SMW on N64. ;)
360 runs Xbox games after only 4 years.
Wonder if the NES and GB homebrew emulators might've been based on the offical ones used in Animal Crossing, Excitebike 64 and Pokemon Stadium?
Anyways it's really cool that an emulation scene like this exists, but sadly seems like little more than a novelty when a hacked Wii/Wii U is more available and capable for this kinda thing. Still proud of the people making these things just cause they can!
I'm curiosu, why DID emulators of the early 2000s usually require packaging/"converting" the ROMS into a dedicated executable, and which flashcart ended this requirement? Was it that they somehow didn't have a file system as workable as, say, on the DS and 3DS?
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It's great that the GB games can be played in color. Even on the Nintendo Switch, when you buy GB games you're stuck playing them in monochrome, which is unacceptable. There's no reason to play Operation C or Belmont's Revenge in black and white when emulation allows one to have color.
For the price of the cartridge alone, you could get something that emulates everything up to N64 at least so I'm not sure I would say it's worth it - unless you have money to burn just for the sake of it.
Great video on a hard to find topic! I especially liked the chapter on the MSX/MSX2 emulator. Is there anyway you can guide me on how to get MSX2 games running on my Everdrive64?
You can also run an N64 version of ScummVM on your N64 and play some PC point and click adventure games on it.
Next up: Emulating Nintendo 64 on a Nintendo 64 (using the actual carts)
That would be piracy. Or bogging down the console
You can buy cartridge with NES games which is really neat.
It would be fun to see you try double emulation, retro emulation on the n64, running on an n64 emulator.
Oh wow, I haven't thought about Zophar in a while.
2:22 that’s just Mario bros 3 for ya
Great video. I noticed a sega saturn game in the video, any plans on a Saturn video at any point?
I gave up my Saturn about a year ago, so likely not.
@@FrameRater aww man, that’s sucks. It’s like my favorite console, it’s so emblematic of the game making philosophy of Japan at the time, such a time capsule.
9:23 Id also like to point out that the Wii U can also (kinda) do this too, with even more power. But then again, it might not be as easy as with a Wii. Point kinda stands, lol.
Great video in all honesty! Very interesting to see how a console that you'd THINK wouldn't have any emulators actually get some good support in the end. You should definitely try checking out the GBA's small emulator scene one day, that scene also feels right at home compared to the N64's emulator scene.
The WiiU has Wii hardware built in more or less. It uses the same CPU architecture and similar enough GPU architecture (probably emulating the TEV with pixel shaders)
It's more of a VM than emulator.
You can get a great RetroArch pack for Wii U on arcade punks
@@fungo6631emulation or not it’s still a great all in one. So is the PS3.
I know I'm gonna be spit on for saying this but one the reasons N64 emulators aren't really popular is because the video quality of the N64 is fuzzy as hell. It's not just the cost of getting an EVERDRIVE but also the cost of upgrading your N64 with RGB etc (just watch any My Life in Gaming video if you want an in depth look at N64 graphics weirdness)
Don't get me wrong I love the N64 but next to a PS1 through SCART (which was standard in the UK and easily done in the US) it's night and day. Not to even mention the Dreamcast which had SVIDEO and SCART as well without mods.
I know some people love the fuzzy look of the N64 and I do too when playing N64 games. But 2D games on the N64 look awful IMO (except Mischief Makers of course)
Tbh I love the fuzzy look of it on a CRT (especially with NES games). It's how I remember playing them back when.
@@FrameRater Oh I completely understand the logic; I'm the kind of guy who likes to play PS3 on a crt :>
Yeah the N64 is kinda like the PS2 wherein it doesn't matter how high quality your video cables, its not gonna look great without modding.
I remember having sonic 1 running on my N64 some years ago
The Sega Genesis one? If so, how?
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It's impressive to see the SNES running on the N64. Can't wait to see it running at full speed. Mario World is quite playable. I couldn't get the DKC Rom to run. Any tips?
Are you using one of the more recent releases? I think at one point it wasn't able to run ROMs more than 4MB.
I've used Neon64 on my N64. Not all games work - but it's pretty good!
Nesticle runs on a 486 DX2 just fine, so it's no surprise an NES emulator runs on the N64.
8:49 Sonic jam
Nice video! Just one extremely small and pedantic correction; I didn't really work on GB64 besides helping Lambert with SDK-related stuff (I created the devkit that he used)
It was one of the first big projects to use my devkit though, so I was very happy to see how far he got! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your contributions to the scene! I love to see the actual people involved show up in comments on videos like this 👍
wonder how well Earthbound works on the SNES emulator.
If it runs well enough we could make Earthbound 64 jokes.
Neon64 is great, but unfortunately (last time I checked), certain games with more complicated mappers like Castlevania 3 and Pac-Man Championship Edition don’t boot at all
N64 should have backward compatibility with SNES games
The Wii U is probably the best option for a Nintendo all in one platform, similar steps to hack as the wii
True, though the CRT champion would be the original Wii.
Nice, what about ports? I recall there being a build of scummvm for n64
N64 has the largest official D-pad. Lol
9:25 don't forget that the wii can emulate n64 games. and pretty well i might add
GameCube can too, through Zelda Master Quest or Collector's Edition injects, but definitely a bit worse, especially for compatibility. I found a list online once that listed 10 games that work with it. The games that I've tested to work are Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Star Fox 64, and various Ocarina of Time rom hacks.
@@Piggieyt75 is there a way to try this myself?
Everdrive x7, has anyone had issues with the linked GBC emulator not responding to the n64 controls? The rom loads but I'm not able to use controller inputs.
Something like Dragon Quest I&II English Translation for the SNES would probably be playable enough. To bad the music would probably suck. I have everything I need to mess with this stuff including Pi for Python. I will have to check this out. Thanks for the Video. 😊
So I am In a unique situation where I have a CRT TV but the SCART connection Is damaged so I play my N64 via RF which works perfectly apart from lately I've been getting interference
I tried connecting my SNES but I'm In Europe so the black bars are kind of off putting
the gamecube Is a mess using RF and hurts my eyes
so I have my N64 and an everdrive
this Is how I play Zelda 1 and gameboy games on my CRT
Arcade games are also great as well as the DOOM 2 port
"most SNES games run between 40-50 frames"
PAL users:
It's very different situations.
I remember seeing an adapter to play snes games on an N64 in magazine ads back in the N64 days. Thought it was cool but still had my snes so no need to buy one.
Awesome ❤
Have you tried ScummVM on the N64? As far as my knowledge goes, this ScummVM port only supports DOS-era SCUMM games. You can try some old LucasArts and Humongous Entertainment classics on the N64, including Sam & Max Hit the Road and Putt-Putt Joins the Parade.
I heard about it, that does sound pretty cool! Hit the Road was great.
I had about a 1/15 success rate with UltraMSX2 games.
Which games worked for you?
Hell yeah waterworld music
good job
Commodore64 on Nintendo64 could be the ultimate goal lol
Amazing
Yeah, FrameRater!
Edit: Love to see this video, I just got into playing around with flash carts for 64
I want to play super mario bros 3 on a windows pc which runs an og xbox emulator which runs an n64 emulator which runs an nes emulator.
emulating an old console on another console? no thanks if this was possible in mid 2000s it would be awesome
I got an X7 last year and messed around with some of these. It's a cool novelty, but ultimately I wouldn't really recommend anyone buy an Everdrive for them.
Have you done emulation on the ps3?
Now run the ROM on Project64
DON'T THINK I DON'T RECOGNIZE CRUIS'N EXOTICA MUSIC WHEN I HEAR IT
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Isn't there an NES FPGA core built in N64 Everdrive carts that's 100% accurate?
Yes but you need the X7 model or above.
@@FrameRater works on my X5
I guess it requires the X models, mine is a v2.5.
I was playing '"The Adventures of Batman & Robin" this morning... Wow! It's working fine. But is terrible for "MegaMan X", the upgrades will be deleted. Thanks for this video. Good job 👍
Damn, and i thought i was done with my everdrive
How does the N64 capture look so crisp?
It's running through a Framemeister.
@@FrameRater Thank you! I'd only looked into RetroTink, now to learn more about Framemeister
@@1wordFyga It's fairly outdated now and has some input lag, plus they're still fairly expensive. Better to go with something else these days, but it's fine if you already have one.
These emulators do prove that the tri star 64 adaptor shouldn’t had it’s own nes & snes board inside along with it’s own av out,it should,ve rely on perfect emulation of botg systems instead,the N64 is a 64bit system after all,
But using the N64 controller for nes & snes games is debatible to me,because i generally never liked that 3 handgrip controller despite it was very innovative for it’s time,but i don’t think any other company will ever come with their 3 handgrip controller for their own system i suppose!!!
warning hacking needed
Not bad.
Look at emulators for the PS1. Spoiler alert, the Master System emulator for the PS1 sounds way worse than what's here, though NES is near perfect.
Please, please please, 🙏 give us some Capcom CPS1,2,3 and, maybe, some NEOGEO!!! We never got decent fighting games on the system and I got those Brawler64 pads that are so underutilized...
Surprised people still waste time with ever drives. Just get a PC every single ROM for the N64 both North American and Japanese is available to download.
and that means
How about emulating N64 emulating older consoles? :)))
Because we can
Could you theoretically save the website as a . html file?
If the site only works as a frontend of the actual converter on the server, then it's most likely not gonna work, unless the converter is written on html, which is a weird flex (or at least on js, therefore downloading the whole site might be a successful venture)
Get a ROM compilation, convert all of them and save them in the cloud.
Test emulatores 3ds and new 3ds
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