About to embark on my first rope change - I'm really glad I came across your video in my research for doing it, I'm now a lot more confident in getting it right first time! Thanks
It's usually easier for the general public to ask the chimney sweep to service the stove at the same time we clean the flue,if using the silicone its best to leave it a while to dry before you fire it up,Another great video,as part of the service I personally just loosen and nip back up the screws for the glass to stop them seizing
Great video. Im about to do mine as its burning too fast. Ive ordered the rope sets from the manufacturer (hunter) and on the look out for glue. Possibly a wire brush attachment for the drill like yours too. Ill check the links in the description box before i go on the lookout for said items. Thanks again for your advice 😊
Thank you, this has been really useful. I would normally have only bought the manufacturer's product but you sounded so genuine when appraising the rope you developed that I decided to go for it! I would love a video which shows how to clean my one door Highlander 10. I don't really mean the glass but rather the inside. I do my best but it seems very awkward trying to get the ash from the top of the plate where the smoke goes up the chimney. I can't access it properly but maybe I'm missing some instructions. I wasn't left any by the company who installed it while I was away on holiday. Thanks again for this video; I've bookmarked it!
Thanks a lot. I am producing some other videos about our rope kits, but thanks a lot for your order. In terms of a video of your stove, if I ever get the opportunity to test it I definitely will!
To prevent siezing threads in these vulnerable places, a smear of copper anti-sieze on the threads will do the business and make unscrewing much less hit and miss...
Thanks for that - just the kind of helpful walk around I needed before doing the door on MIL's little Aga. I used Cal Super Seal, which I was slightly surprised to see was cream-coloured as opposed to the black you used. It was also quite runny, despite a damn good shaking (as per the bottle). Presumably it was okay. I just expected it to be more like a paste. Seems to have done the trick though so far. I shall be keeping a beady eye on it.
Hi. Do have a video that shows how to replace the fire rope at the back of the fire? I’ve had my chimney swept, he removed the baffle and firebricks etc, but now it doesn’t reach temperature , I am having to leave the bottom vent half open all the time just to keep the fire going. It was a brilliant fire until then. Can’t think what happened but thought he may have put it back in the wrong place. He’s been out again to check but says he can’t find anything wrong! Definitely not right, it was a great fire until then. (Hampton 5 large) Mandy thanks if you can help.
Most stoves don’t have rope at the back of them, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to? An issue as you’ve described would normally indicate the internals not being fitted correctly, or a more sinister installation issue. Is it that change is from memory of last winter, with you now using it again, because the other big thing is has your fuel changed? Damp fuel will destroy temperature and output, so that may be a factor, also you may have not used it for several months, and may not be fully back in the swing of getting it up to temperature. Those are some ideas, but I have to say, this does sound a bit odd, particularly given that the sweep has returned to double check.
Do you have a video and instructions/recommendations for just replacing a piece of glass? I have an Appalachian Stove that has three 6"x11"? pieces of glass in the front door. One of them has shattered or otherwise broken and needs replacing. Where do I purchase such a glass in the U.S / Ebay/ Etc..? and how do I just replace the glass? Tks
Thanks for the very informative video, im about to renew the rope on my fire. I wonder if youcan help me please, the screws for the glass need repacing the brackets are ok but i am having trouble sourcing them. I have a fire fox 5 i have looked on line i can get them at a stupid price £13 +£13pp an horrendous price for 4 screws and brackets!! Maybe yourself or someone might just know where i can go. Thank you once again.
We’ve started selling rope and glass kits on our website. So if you message us on there we should be able to supply ropes for this without a problem. With regard to the screws I would take an old screw to my local hardware store and they should have them (it’ll be a standard size). The brackets can be almost anything, so nothing too special required. A lot of people will use something as simple as a metal washer, just as long as it laps over the glass to retain it. Just don’t do them up too tight!!!
I was looking for this too. The last person stuck the self-adhesive side to the metal. In some places it’s difficult to clean off and in others it has completely disintegrated. Was wondering if sticking to the metal was just easier or if they had some other motivation.
Hi Gabriel & community. We own a beautiful old Fisher Grandma Wood Stove. We have searched for doors that have glass but it’s hard to find. I was wondering if something like the door you are working on (10:56) May fit our stove. Not sure. I can get you the exact dimensions of the grandma doors to see if there are any to your knowledge that may fit. Question is open to the community as well.
Unless Fisher make doors with glass, this will be a very difficult find. Stoves don’t tend to be flat, they normally have shape and the doors are carefully matched, so finding other doors that fit is a nearly impossible task. The more practical route would be to take the existing doors to a metal worker and have him cut a hole etc, this is a pretty simple task, and will be far safer too.
hi there, great video. im struggling to get my vision 500 to seal evenly on refining the door, whats the procedure from scratch on re fitting the door and adjusting,?once the ropes been changed. ive lost count of how many turns ive got on each adjusting hinge etc. and im now a bit confused....appreciate your advice
If it’s all in a muddle then I would do it by eye from the side of the stove. Slowly wind them in until the door meets the body evenly on the top and bottom. Then typically do one more half or full turn in, and then wind the door handle until the handle side again meets the body evenly. If the hinges are too tight and are pushing the handle out then wind them both out 1 turn (which should maintain evenness). It is a little stop start if you’ve got confused, but definitely worth it in the end.
Great informative videos. We have a westfire uniq 17 (now westfire 44 according to one of your videos) and want to replace the door rope. We think it is 13mm, but our door doesn't appear to show any signs of glue being used at all. The rope just appears to be pressed into the groove. This is how it came from the factory, we have owned it from new. Would you recommend fitting the new rope with glue or do we just press it in as it was before?
If the glass can move is it a tight enough air seal to prevent smoke leakage? Got me worried now that I’ve tightened mine up (not overly tight) but have I done it tight enough for a good air seal but “not tight enough “ for ease of expansion….help!!!!!
Definitely don’t over tighten. Stoves are designed to leak, so trying to seal them is pointless. You won’t get any leakage around the glass as it’s easier to leak out of the door or the air vents, so don’t worry about it. Leaks on stoves let air in, getting smoke out would only happen if you had a chimney/draw issue so it’s not something you should be struggling with.
Firstly...why ruin a perfectly good table by not placing cushioning/cardboard under the door. Secondly , instead of sticking the glass flat rope/gasket to the inside of the door which may not be perfectly flat and dirt free. You clean the glass and stick it directly onto the glass for a better adhesive contact. And Thirdly, when tightening the glass clips in place you place a small piece of asbestos padding or glass gasket tape the same size of the clip...between the clip and glass. This is great in allowing for any heat expansion of the clips.
Just done mine, hunter hawk 4. A word of caution, the glass rope, especially the old rope can cause skin iritation and you with bare arms ! Long sleeved shirt or overalls would be safer. Fit door immediatly after installing rope and latch closed, this will bed the rope in the sealer or glue, leave for a while then light a small fire and allow to warm slowly - job done !
I used one by Calfire, but any heat silicon works perfectly. They tend to be black and rated for 300C, I’ve actually tested using normal silicon and even bathroom sealant purely for interest sake and even with a stove at full temperature they performed perfectly. Didn’t think it was something I could recommend though 😁
@@TheTortoise ah! Nice to know. I have 300c silicone as well we haven’t used it for the rope seals, but I’ll give it a try after seeing this. Nice one!
We have started experimenting with sheathed rope as this not only lasts longer, but is also sheathed over so you don’t get exposed to the itchy fibres either. If you need some let us know and we can get you the right size.
The vast majority of very old stoves didn’t use ropes at all, and glass fibre ropes have been being used for about 25 years at least. But if you have an old stove then always best to assume the worst.
Hi Gabriel My Lowry 5x smells when I burn ht new pallet As well as kiln dried wood Old pallet and seasoned doesn’t smell as much Please help The stove isn’t too hot either and smells as bad but gets worse the hotter
Couple days f questions: What does it smell of? How old is the stove? Is it in a fireplace or free standing? How old is the house and is the chimney lined (assuming it’s in a chimney)?
@@1markdrums I’ve had something similar when a dog dropped a toy behind a stove. It took a while to smell, but the longer it was on or the hotter, the more it stank. Took us ages to find, but that was an acrid plasticky smell “vile”! Particularly given the age, this has to be an external factor (something on or near the stove). You could get it hot and try and smell if it is something in the chimney above the register plate, but otherwise I’d try and use a mirror to check behind the stove, or underneath.
The simple test is shutting paper in the door. If it easily slides out then it’s leaking, if there is some resistance then that’s okay. If it holds the paper and it won’t move then it is very sealed, this normally only happens with new ropes.
another trick to see air leaking doors: with the wood stove burning well, light a (preferably long) match and run it along the seam, when you see the flame being directed towards the seam you know where it is drawing ourside air :-)
Honestly can’t remember. I think my worst day my mother in law found me kicking my door with my keys on the floor in the car park. I think I was trying to get in, but couldn’t work out how to do it 😬. That Libre has sorted that out now, life is much easier with that piece of kit!
About to embark on my first rope change - I'm really glad I came across your video in my research for doing it, I'm now a lot more confident in getting it right first time! Thanks
Just changed the ropes for the first time. Great guide, bought one of your rope kits too. 👍 made it easy.
Thanks a lot, really glad to hear that!!!
It's usually easier for the general public to ask the chimney sweep to service the stove at the same time we clean the flue,if using the silicone its best to leave it a while to dry before you fire it up,Another great video,as part of the service I personally just loosen and nip back up the screws for the glass to stop them seizing
Most silicone sealants can't handle stove temp
Nice clear video thanks for posting it. Its nice to see some pro tips too. Have bought a kit from you ready for the chilly nights! Thx 🙏
Thanks a lot! Bring on winter 😅
Great video. Im about to do mine as its burning too fast. Ive ordered the rope sets from the manufacturer (hunter) and on the look out for glue. Possibly a wire brush attachment for the drill like yours too. Ill check the links in the description box before i go on the lookout for said items. Thanks again for your advice 😊
Awesome. We’ve started selling rope kits too if you ever need anything:
thetortoise.net/collections/rope-kits
Thank you, this has been really useful. I would normally have only bought the manufacturer's product but you sounded so genuine when appraising the rope you developed that I decided to go for it! I would love a video which shows how to clean my one door Highlander 10. I don't really mean the glass but rather the inside. I do my best but it seems very awkward trying to get the ash from the top of the plate where the smoke goes up the chimney. I can't access it properly but maybe I'm missing some instructions. I wasn't left any by the company who installed it while I was away on holiday. Thanks again for this video; I've bookmarked it!
Thanks a lot. I am producing some other videos about our rope kits, but thanks a lot for your order. In terms of a video of your stove, if I ever get the opportunity to test it I definitely will!
Thanks very much for a very clear instructive video.. 👏👏👍
Glad it was helpful!
To prevent siezing threads in these vulnerable places, a smear of copper anti-sieze on the threads will do the business and make unscrewing much less hit and miss...
big fan of copper grease, sounds like a great idea if you’ve got some.
Thanks, this was super helpful!
Thxs. Yet another informative and simple vid to follow.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
That was informative and entertaining ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you- great video
Thanks for that - just the kind of helpful walk around I needed before doing the door on MIL's little Aga. I used Cal Super Seal, which I was slightly surprised to see was cream-coloured as opposed to the black you used. It was also quite runny, despite a damn good shaking (as per the bottle). Presumably it was okay. I just expected it to be more like a paste. Seems to have done the trick though so far. I shall be keeping a beady eye on it.
I prefer to use silicone based stuff, but I have used the Super Seal. As you say it is runny which is why I don’t prefer it, but it works fine.
Thanks for the great job very simple and easy and quick u make me saving me time and money appreciations 🇩🇰👍👌
Happy to help!
Excellent... Great advice
very detailed, thanks!
informative and detailed thankyou
Just what i was lookin for.... great video thanks very much... and gob bless
Thanks a lot.
Hi. Do have a video that shows how to replace the fire rope at the back of the fire? I’ve had my chimney swept, he removed the baffle and firebricks etc, but now it doesn’t reach temperature , I am having to leave the bottom vent half open all the time just to keep the fire going. It was a brilliant fire until then. Can’t think what happened but thought he may have put it back in the wrong place. He’s been out again to check but says he can’t find anything wrong! Definitely not right, it was a great fire until then. (Hampton 5 large) Mandy thanks if you can help.
Most stoves don’t have rope at the back of them, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to?
An issue as you’ve described would normally indicate the internals not being fitted correctly, or a more sinister installation issue. Is it that change is from memory of last winter, with you now using it again, because the other big thing is has your fuel changed? Damp fuel will destroy temperature and output, so that may be a factor, also you may have not used it for several months, and may not be fully back in the swing of getting it up to temperature.
Those are some ideas, but I have to say, this does sound a bit odd, particularly given that the sweep has returned to double check.
appreciate the conversation
Do you have a video and instructions/recommendations for just replacing a piece of glass? I have an Appalachian Stove that has three 6"x11"? pieces of glass in the front door. One of them has shattered or otherwise broken and needs replacing. Where do I purchase such a glass in the U.S / Ebay/ Etc..? and how do I just replace the glass? Tks
Great video .. lash it up the dining table and grind the shite ouve it !!! Love it
Haha, yea probably best to avoid the 5 second rule round here.
Thanks for the very informative video, im about to renew the rope on my fire. I wonder if youcan help me please, the screws for the glass need repacing the brackets are ok but i am having trouble sourcing them. I have a fire fox 5 i have looked on line i can get them at a stupid price £13 +£13pp an horrendous price for 4 screws and brackets!! Maybe yourself or someone might just know where i can go. Thank you once again.
We’ve started selling rope and glass kits on our website. So if you message us on there we should be able to supply ropes for this without a problem. With regard to the screws I would take an old screw to my local hardware store and they should have them (it’ll be a standard size). The brackets can be almost anything, so nothing too special required. A lot of people will use something as simple as a metal washer, just as long as it laps over the glass to retain it. Just don’t do them up too tight!!!
Hello, thanks for a great video!
Does the glue need heat/a burn to cure or does it work as ordinary glue?
just leave it for an hour and you'll be away, it doesn't need to cure.
Wow - sticking self-adhesive glass seal to the metal of the door was eye opening for me. I thought the sticky side went on to the glass.
Either would work to be fair.
I was looking for this too. The last person stuck the self-adhesive side to the metal. In some places it’s difficult to clean off and in others it has completely disintegrated. Was wondering if sticking to the metal was just easier or if they had some other motivation.
Hi Gabriel & community. We own a beautiful old Fisher Grandma Wood Stove. We have searched for doors that have glass but it’s hard to find. I was wondering if something like the door you are working on (10:56) May fit our stove. Not sure. I can get you the exact dimensions of the grandma doors to see if there are any to your knowledge that may fit. Question is open to the community as well.
Unless Fisher make doors with glass, this will be a very difficult find. Stoves don’t tend to be flat, they normally have shape and the doors are carefully matched, so finding other doors that fit is a nearly impossible task. The more practical route would be to take the existing doors to a metal worker and have him cut a hole etc, this is a pretty simple task, and will be far safer too.
Do you recommend any specific silicon glues for the door rope gaskets?
Yea, ours is the best 😅
thetortoise.net/products/the-tortoise-silicone-rope-glue?_pos=1&_psq=glue&_ss=e&_v=1.0
hi there, great video. im struggling to get my vision 500 to seal evenly on refining the door, whats the procedure from scratch on re fitting the door and adjusting,?once the ropes been changed. ive lost count of how many turns ive got on each adjusting hinge etc. and im now a bit confused....appreciate your advice
If it’s all in a muddle then I would do it by eye from the side of the stove. Slowly wind them in until the door meets the body evenly on the top and bottom. Then typically do one more half or full turn in, and then wind the door handle until the handle side again meets the body evenly. If the hinges are too tight and are pushing the handle out then wind them both out 1 turn (which should maintain evenness). It is a little stop start if you’ve got confused, but definitely worth it in the end.
@@TheTortoise Brilliant, thanks! got it done now. perfect. 👍
@@richbarr4865 excellent, glad you got somewhere.
Great informative videos. We have a westfire uniq 17 (now westfire 44 according to one of your videos) and want to replace the door rope. We think it is 13mm, but our door doesn't appear to show any signs of glue being used at all. The rope just appears to be pressed into the groove. This is how it came from the factory, we have owned it from new. Would you recommend fitting the new rope with glue or do we just press it in as it was before?
A lot of westfires rope is just pressure fit rather than glue. It makes fitting and removing nice and easy. I would do the same, no need for glue 👍.
@@TheTortoise many thanks 😉
If the glass can move is it a tight enough air seal to prevent smoke leakage? Got me worried now that I’ve tightened mine up (not overly tight) but have I done it tight enough for a good air seal but “not tight enough “ for ease of expansion….help!!!!!
Definitely don’t over tighten. Stoves are designed to leak, so trying to seal them is pointless. You won’t get any leakage around the glass as it’s easier to leak out of the door or the air vents, so don’t worry about it. Leaks on stoves let air in, getting smoke out would only happen if you had a chimney/draw issue so it’s not something you should be struggling with.
Hi Gariel That looks like my door on my double door Hunter Herald 4 shaped glass, do you know the size diameter of the rope, I need to replace mine
There are several sized ropes on these doors, but I tend to use 13mm soft rope for the main door.
Hey super informative video!!!!
Where do you get the tape to wrap the end of the rope please?
Most shops should sell this with the ropes, otherwise I’d expect to see it online under “stove rope end sealing tape”.
@The Tortoise thanks a million for the quick response. Much appreciated!
do you have to replace the glass seal with the door seal if the former looks completely fine.
No, if the rope is alright, just leave it.
Firstly...why ruin a perfectly good table by not placing cushioning/cardboard under the door.
Secondly , instead of sticking the glass flat rope/gasket to the inside of the door which may not be perfectly flat and dirt free. You clean the glass and stick it directly onto the glass for a better adhesive contact.
And Thirdly, when tightening the glass clips in place you place a small piece of asbestos padding or glass gasket tape the same size of the clip...between the clip and glass. This is great in allowing for any heat expansion of the clips.
Just done mine, hunter hawk 4. A word of caution, the glass rope, especially the old rope can cause skin iritation and you with bare arms ! Long sleeved shirt or overalls would be safer. Fit door immediatly after installing rope and latch closed, this will bed the rope in the sealer or glue, leave for a while then light a small fire and allow to warm slowly - job done !
alls get a now all
Which glue do you use?
I used one by Calfire, but any heat silicon works perfectly. They tend to be black and rated for 300C, I’ve actually tested using normal silicon and even bathroom sealant purely for interest sake and even with a stove at full temperature they performed perfectly. Didn’t think it was something I could recommend though 😁
@@TheTortoise ah! Nice to know. I have 300c silicone as well we haven’t used it for the rope seals, but I’ll give it a try after seeing this. Nice one!
Do you have your own site for items like this?
We do:
thetortoise.net/
I really wish stove designers would make rope less door seals, it is such a pain, and its itchy horrid stuff to work with.
We have started experimenting with sheathed rope as this not only lasts longer, but is also sheathed over so you don’t get exposed to the itchy fibres either. If you need some let us know and we can get you the right size.
How did you get away with using the drill in the dining room?!
The key is forgiveness rather than permission 😬
How do you know if the rope is asbestos?
The vast majority of very old stoves didn’t use ropes at all, and glass fibre ropes have been being used for about 25 years at least. But if you have an old stove then always best to assume the worst.
@@TheTortoise Thanks for your reply! Very helpful.
Hi Gabriel
My Lowry 5x smells when I burn ht new pallet
As well as kiln dried wood
Old pallet and seasoned doesn’t smell as much
Please help
The stove isn’t too hot either and smells as bad but gets worse the hotter
Couple days f questions:
What does it smell of?
How old is the stove?
Is it in a fireplace or free standing?
How old is the house and is the chimney lined (assuming it’s in a chimney)?
@@TheTortoise
Hi it’s a year old on
Wednesday
In a fireplace with a new liner
I don’t know because I’ve never smelled anything like that
I sell stoves but I haven’t come across a smell like it
It seems it could be the the inside
That’s the only thing I can think of
House is 30/40s
@@1markdrums I’ve had something similar when a dog dropped a toy behind a stove. It took a while to smell, but the longer it was on or the hotter, the more it stank. Took us ages to find, but that was an acrid plasticky smell “vile”!
Particularly given the age, this has to be an external factor (something on or near the stove). You could get it hot and try and smell if it is something in the chimney above the register plate, but otherwise I’d try and use a mirror to check behind the stove, or underneath.
Good way
Thanks a lot. I just checked out your channel, do you supply stove ropes?
@@TheTortoise Do you mean ceramic fiber rope?
@@topsealing851 possibly?
How do you know if the door of the wood burning stove is leaking and how do you find where the leak is?
The simple test is shutting paper in the door. If it easily slides out then it’s leaking, if there is some resistance then that’s okay. If it holds the paper and it won’t move then it is very sealed, this normally only happens with new ropes.
another trick to see air leaking doors: with the wood stove burning well, light a (preferably long) match and run it along the seam, when you see the flame being directed towards the seam you know where it is drawing ourside air :-)
How were your blood sugars at the time ? Been there .. done much worse ...
Honestly can’t remember. I think my worst day my mother in law found me kicking my door with my keys on the floor in the car park. I think I was trying to get in, but couldn’t work out how to do it 😬.
That Libre has sorted that out now, life is much easier with that piece of kit!
Use safety glasses if don`t want get wire in your eye
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Mask and goggles are a very good idea
rubbish
Are you boris johnsons brother...ahww, ahwww, wwwhhaaa. ????
Honestly I get told I’m like Bo-Jo all the time!
What has happened to my life 🤦♂️😬😅
@@TheTortoise 😂😂😂😂😂
But don't do it on your dining room table.?
Good advice!
Amy
Good video, should you wear a mask???
Could be a good idea.