This is a systemic issue, not the fault of a single man. Bruh. The reporter is a soldier and a scapegoat, not the dictator or the general who whispers in their ear.
@@jimmyjames6487 Because either they are supremely negligent in a bid to get a cheap photo of the jury to put on the network, or they were fishing for the photo to de-facto dox them to the general public if they don't get the verdict they want. This information will be leaked to the same people that are responsible for this trial happening in the first place! THINK MARK!
@@jimmyjames6487 The jury doesn’t have to know who specifically is following them to feel intimidated by being followed as a member of a jury on a highly controversial (just for left wing extremists) case. And given MSNBC’s and BLM’s track record of radical, left wing extremism, they should feel intimidated. All of Kenosha should feel intimidated.
I think they should have been sequestered the whole time they had people on the news saying that they were in the courtroom taking pictures of the jurors and they would find out who they were if they came back with a bad verdict.
@@jimpollard113 following the jury to expose their identity during a deliberation is legal???? Especially when there has already been threats towards the jury
@@nibcamp3958 by taking photos of the jurors, MSNBC was basically going to use those photos by putting them up on National Television to get the crazies to go and kill them.
@@crystaledmonds2216 It can't be intimidation if the jury didn't see it. Kind of stupid for letting them demonstrate right at the doors, but that's Wisconsin for you.
The fact that there are 500 armed national guard troops standing by to deal with the exact same group/mob of rioters that came for Kyle when he was all alone tells you everything you need to know about whether or not the shooting was justified.
They're controlled by the left. Remember their opinion is more important than you. You're guilty until proven innocent and even then you're still guilty.
Yet you have no issues with Kyle getting to pick a juror like it's bingo or a raffle. When in our history of trials has that ever happened? I guess all accused criminals should now be allowed to do that as well. Or how bout the judge singing to Rittenhouse?This judge needs to be fired!
@@Poetryandthings if you actually listened to the judge, the jury selection issue is something he’s allowed for twenty years, so that answers your question. Now, when you learn the difference between apples and oranges, maybe you’ll understand what’s going on with this discussion.
@@forevermarked5826 Its not if a case reaches the national media before you select the jury. Millions of people will have an instant opinion about a case based solely on what they heard on thier news media of choice. It's ridiculous to think that every juror is going to give a verdict based solely on the evidence when many have been exposed to opinions beforehand.
Hallelujah Hallelujah hallelujah!!!! Big time! MSNBC banned!! The White House banned Fox! Do all fake news!! Pray for this Judges Protection and jurors too.
@Josh Jones exactly that’s why she expresses hatred for the government ran industrial media complex… which attacks and shuts down those with opposing views… hey that sounds like fascism right?
i’m an attorney and i’m shocked at this trial. the judge is overwhelmed and so is the jury. if any conviction comes, he has to throw it out. kyle should never spend a day in jail. this is sick what prosecutors have done here.
Thank you for your professional opinion on this case. It gives me peace of mind. I’ve been constantly praying for Kyle, his family, the judge, the jury, and honestly even those guilty of evil intentions.
That lad is well and truly screwed, no way a jury should take three days to come to a verdict on the evidence presented. They are afraid to render a NG verdict.
The only reason it's taken three days is because there are people in the jury who are not looking at the facts. They're siding with their political ideology. This case is a disgrace to the legal system. SHAMEFUL
Yeah.. Unbiased jury would be great but we know it's like X amount of people saying "well I think he shouldn't have been there" and Y amount of people going "LOOOOOK you Dense motherf-"
Thats why our Justice system is broken. We take the average idiot who has no idea what they're talking about, and put them infront of people who do. Then see which sides circus theater impresses said idiot more.
If this kid is found guilty, then I know 1) the jury is afraid of the fallout 2) I will now believe there is no justice for the innocent based on politics
@@DJSteezy i am one of those who believe he is not guilty by the videos i have seen, but that being said if he is found guilty i am not one to go and burn down or go and hurt people only criminals do that
For the love of God just mistrial this whole thing. Stop waterboarding Kyle. We all know he's innocent. A couple of Karen's are holding the verdict up.
@@GossAug Well it can be a "mistrial with prejudice" which means the prosecution can never call for another trial against Kyle on this same case, because the case is considered too tainted, it's effectively a not guilty verdict by default.
We all know MSNBC (OR MSDNC) has no morality, honesty or goodness. They're up there w/CNN for pushing lies & asking fear & division. Intentionally misleading the public. It's pathetic & they have no good faith IMO for our country.
This person needs to be charged with tampering with the jury. This is ridiculous and we think Kyle will get a fair verdict! Pray these jurors aren’t swayed by all the antics.
Exactly. The media keeps crying they have first amendment rights. But the first amendment only protects them from the government. Not a private citizen. Also, stalking and harassment, aren't protected by the first amendment.
@@KayInMaine I'm not condoning it, but lawyers are immune in such cases while they are in the courthouse. I've heard that the judge allowed it because he did nothing that was against the rules. The judge, however, should have stopped it because the lawyer didn't check the firearm himself. It was negligent on his part and is very much the same way Alec Baldwin killed Halyna Hutchins.
Why would you thank a kid that brings an AR to intimidate rioters? You’re just looking for trouble at that point. Then you’re thanking him for getting into a situation that went extremely wrong and ends in death? No one should be thanking this delinquent
@@guitarlolfriend He went there to help people, clean walls and extinguish fire. Rifle is made as deadly, but most efficient self defense tool. Im not surprised he took it with him. As you probably saw on video if he didnt take it he would be the one dead.
@@SaltyMinorcan So far it seems that all the other news outlets aren't stalking the jurors like MSNBC did. It seems that they know it's, NOT ok to do that. 🤔 ...or is it that your real question is, "would people be hypocritical enough to think Fox or any other right leaning outlet stalking the jury is ok"? The answer is, of course. It's wrong no matter who does it. Witness or jury intimidation is illegal.
I agree, and I think the judge is determined to see that a jury verdict is respected. In that, he's engaged in wishful thinking. If Kyle is found not guilty the judge will be branded by the left as a white supremicist. If Kyle is found guilty the judge will be called gutless by the right. The sad thing is that the jury will think it has found the truth, but outside the court both sides are prepared to excoriate them if the decision goes the wrong way. Everyone on the jury knows this. How trial can be considered fair in these conditions is beyond me.
That’s a damn shame & the people who are contributing to the demise of a fair trial and system are too dumb to realize it will come back on them eventually.
It’s funny because those same people are the ones who say “our justice system has failed, what is wrong with this country” etc etc. but then when there is actually a fair trial with a judge that plays everything by the book they get mad and act like it’s a hoax. Just because you don’t like an outcome doesn’t mean it was biased or unfair :/
@@Jsee66 it's truly laughable that you would say that, when it's the LEFT who champions for criminals. There's a statue and a field named after George Floyd and Jacob Blake is still being treated like a hero when he's a sexual predator. Really, Grosskreutz ought to be on trial for attacking Rittenhouse AND arson.
If the jury is taking the potential *effects* of their verdict into consideration during deliberations, they are breaking their oath and that is wrong. The potential effects of any potential verdict have to be irrelevant.
This no matter what verdict grounds for mistrial , anyone who made comment in media ,that supported false ideology, should be charged ,and if public employee imedeitly discharged ,if voted in they violated oath,,should resign or face severe Consequence's
Their downtown has already been burned to the ground once and likely never to be rebuilt. So of course they are going to take the effects of the verdict into consideration. The trial should have happened elsewhere and not in Kenosha for this very reason
not only should the staffer that did this be locked up for a very, very long time, but so should his boss that directed him to follow the bus. That will put a stop to it for future cases
@Donald Thorpe You give MSNBC too much credit by calling them 'the press'. Real news organizations have the ethics to not follow serving jury members and thus compromise an ongoing trial. Tabloid trash opinion cable 'news' outlets clearly don't have the same ethical considerations.
@Donald Thorpe Here is something else that is protected and useful: A Fair Trial. That clown at MSNBC tried to jeopardize that process all for a cheap scoop.
I understand why the Judge wants the jury to come to decision. But at the point of open jury intimidation and after the antics of the prosecution, this case should be dismissed with prejudice to stop this from occurring again. You cant render a fair verdict in the light of this bullying.
@@joefatalooch8057 I agree with you 💯. When the defense did what they did yesterday and then MSNBC did, any other lawyer would have already thrown it out but I understand his dilemma.
News channels have violated this man's case from the beginning ! Only 1-2 telling the truth about the case! This young man should sue everyone including Biden for slander! News channels need to be put back in there place! They are a disgrace to America! Utubers are doing a better job than them! I would belive a utuber live video than CNN. NSNBC and all the other idiout channels! Many Americans feel the same way! Look at there ratings! Smh!!!
Yea your crazy knowing that a 17 year old shouldn't have a gun and also he had no business being around that area making is own choice what to do which police officers is their job to do their business, A 17 year old home with his parents not be involved going out with a gun knowing will he wanted to go shoot someone and what he did killed 2 unarmed injured 1 person which the people were trying to stop him from using his gun, but you know where he is going ones he pass which he will burn 🔥 obviously,and you think he 100% should be free will God will take that as a No for what he did.
We all seen the video, he only opened fire against anyone possing a threat to his life. He didn't shoot them when they backed off, but only when they drew too close. Anyways if those people were vandalizing or burning private property the Rittenhouse had every right to defend the property of his friends, relatives neighbors and Any American citizen in need of his protection, amen.🤔
I do not understand why so many others who have had guns, pointed them at people, or following jury bus have not been ticketed and on trial. It feels like Kyle is being railroaded.
Yes, where are the attempted murder charges against that man that chased him down saying I'm gonna kill you and then pulling out his hand gun attempting to murder him just for defending his fellow Americans property fron rioting vandals.🤔
Yeah! So that he can photograph and document Kyle blubbing like a baby whilst he serves out his life sentence with the Big Boys :-) In the clink is where Kyle belongs, doing hard time for his crimes.
I won’t understand if this doesn’t end in mistrial. I was on a jury once and we broke for lunch. A man approached me and tried to bring up the case. I reported it to the judge and even though I had immediately shut the conversation down, they had a huge investigation. It ended in a mistrial and it wasn’t even a high profile case like this one.
Because the defense doesn't want a mistrial. They know if they go in any other courtroom under any other jury they will lose. They want to keep this judge and jury no matter what.
That producer should have intimidation charges brought on them... media outlets have no right to harass jurors or even bother them during this trying time
A kid who is a murderer ! What kind of kid walks around with an Assault riffle. I don’t know any kids that walk around with a AR-15. It’s shameful to think he’s a kid.
Let's guess how long Joy Reid will talk about how racist this is and that the public deserves to know who jury members are. How about she gives out her address and phone number?
That is sickening why else would you do that. If not to see the jurors and intimidate them. A mere traffic infraction is not enough. This case should never seen a court room. And if they find him guilty know one will try to do what right again. This young man was doing what the police should have been doing. For those who don't agree let's set your house or business on fire. See how you feel as watch helplessly as burns to the ground. God help us what has happened to this country.
@@kamryndesha3066 A protest of people claiming to be my victims has everything to do with me. Know this, those who claim to be my victims are much more likely to become my actual victims than those who claim to be my masters are likely to become my actual masters.
@Citizen Dissident III so blacks should stay home and let the police brutalize their community?? People get fed up and that’s no reason for privileged white people to enter that space trying to control outrage that has NOTHING to do with them!!!!!
I love how the media guy speaking jumps to the conclusion that the person following the bus was impersonating an MSNBC reporter even tho the judge never said anything of the sort. They are all so corrupt!
you can tell he was told to say that after the fact when he first mentioned it he never mentioned impersonation then after the judge spoke he changed it as if he was later told to say that.
Check out the movie “Twelve Angry Men”, about a jury deciding on the fate of a man. Fantastic script. Just a brilliant examination of people’s emotion, bias and judgement!
such a powerful movie. watched it a couple years ago and I would highly recommend it to anyone. great character study movie, exploring how prejudices and motivations that can cause problems with judgement, and how hard it can be to see them in ourselves.
Because there's no backlash, at all, ever, just a bunch of words. At least the "lefties" will gather in protest, threaten and burn until stuff gets done. Seems like that's the only way to do it nowadays. The easiest and quickest way to get results is to make people fear for thier lives. Right wingers need to crawl out of their moralistic shell and fight fire with fire or their
I think they will be, as politics should not matter in that kind of charge. The wheels turn slowly, so this will be out of the media by that time. I'm not on the right at all, but it doesn't matter, I think anyone jury tampering should be held accountable. I don't want Kyle to get off on a technicality, I want him to be validated that he was defending himself. I think of women who are raped and told it's their fault for walking alone at night or wearing suggestive clothing (or even who work as a prostitute.) He shouldn't lose the right to defend himself just because he is young and made the same choices everyone else there made. The people who made the choice to attack caused their own situation. He didn't go there to kill, or he'd have killed the people who were not attacking him, I'd venture to say. :-)
@@jimmyjames6487 I was wondering that too, and since I had not read up on it. I assumed there must be more to it than just that. Isn't there more to it?
Jury tampering is closer. The producer that was cited for running a traffic light. He needs some jail time. Just following orders doesn’t cut it. He knew what he was doing was a felony.
The judge really needs to dismiss the case with prejudice, the fact that someone tried to follow the jurors is practically trying to scare them into a guilty verdict
How do you know why they were pressured ? Could've been just trying to get an exclusive you don't know what the reason was... People really need to stop making assumptions
Naw! They wanted to take pic's of the jury and plaster them on TV because they believe they are entitled to do so. That way the Antifa-type mobs can go burn down their houses when he is Acquitted The jury is sequestered to ensure integrity of the trial!
Common sense tells u what the media tried to portray the kid..without any facts initially when the story was first reported ..up to the jurors to figure that out with the facts théy heard in court
True. Even Biden was commenting negatively about it too. At the very least, Biden's actions were so unethical, unprofessional, and clearly lacking any truth.
Just the fact that they hid the identities and videos as long as they did and called a Hispanic kid white supremacist shows where they were going at they wanted it to be a white supremacist shoots black guys at BLM protest
The judge can hold onto the mistrial until the verdict comes. He’s probably waiting to see the verdict, if he’s guilty he’ll probably call a mistrial, but he doesn’t want to call a mistrial in the case that there is an acquittal.
@@Misha-dr9rh he’s allowed video in after evidence was closed. Reprimanded the prosecution multiple times only to back off and let it go. Seems more intimated than cool, in my opinion.
Yes the jury goes home. They have like until 8 or 9 PM if not then they conclude for the night and come back in morning. This is insane tho. NOT GUILTY has to come
@@Zero_cool79 Wow, that sounds similar to the diagnosis the judge made up about Ethan Couch, the ol "Affluenza" defense. Poor, poor entitled kid. Meanwhile 4 victims lie dead due to his DUI, oh wait, can't call them victims.
The fact they’re taking this long for what’s so obviously a not guilty verdict is problematic. If Kyle were black they would’ve said not guilty on day 1. There wouldn’t have even been a trial
Oh my. Rather surprised to hear MSNBC affiliated would engage in such questionable and illegal behavior while driving a vehicle. It brings to mind what terrible events occured with media representatives chasing Princess Diana on that fateful day. My impression of NBC overall has changed as a result of this serious and egregious offense.
@@and_the_first_last I'm sure the RACIST demoncrats at MSNBC are far more guilty than just the running of red lights. Nevertheless, the RACIST are banned from this courtroom.
IT WAS SELF DEFENCE SHOULD NOT EVER BE A TRIAL. WITH THAT BEING SAID THESE JURIORS SHOULD NOT BE THREATENED. THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE THREATING NEEDS TO BE SENT TO PRISON FOR DOMESTIC TERRIORIST
Absolutely no media outlet should be stalking a jury bus. Charges should be brought against that individual.
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Charges should be brought against everyone at MSNBC who coordinated the effort.
@@marcusleja7133 This. right here. screw MSNBC and these other media outlets trying to intimidate the jury
@@ShawnFX Where have I scene people try to intimidate people from doing there jobs before? Trumpers would never do anything like that.
Correct, that person and the company!
Don't just write the reporter a ticket. This is jury intimidation! Arrest them and who he works for! Show them this won't be tolerated!
Lol. How is it jury intimidation for following a bus when the jury doesn't know who is in the car? Things that make you go duh.
@@jimmyjames6487 what if the jury gets their info leaked? Or is doxxing just a regular thing in your circle.
@@jimmyjames6487 how is it not intimidation he follows them home releases their info then the mob comes for them 🤷♂️
It may not be the legal definition but for all practical purposes this is extortion. "Do what we tell you to do or else."
@@jimmyjames6487 😂
Raise your hand if you're not surprised that MSNBC would do such a thing.
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I agree. I'm glad they got caught.
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News media thinks they are above everyone.
Same league as cnn
The reporter should be prosecuted for intimidating jurors.
Oh yeah, and MSNBC needs a trial with this much attention. They are working with BLM/Antifa
This is a systemic issue, not the fault of a single man. Bruh. The reporter is a soldier and a scapegoat, not the dictator or the general who whispers in their ear.
@@sockmon1he still did it
They should actually be criminally charged for intimidation of a jury.
Lol. How is it jury intimidation for following a bus when the jury doesn't know who is in the car? Things that make you go duh.
@@jimmyjames6487 Because either they are supremely negligent in a bid to get a cheap photo of the jury to put on the network, or they were fishing for the photo to de-facto dox them to the general public if they don't get the verdict they want.
This information will be leaked to the same people that are responsible for this trial happening in the first place!
THINK MARK!
@@jimmyjames6487 The jury doesn’t have to know who specifically is following them to feel intimidated by being followed as a member of a jury on a highly controversial (just for left wing extremists) case. And given MSNBC’s and BLM’s track record of radical, left wing extremism, they should feel intimidated. All of Kenosha should feel intimidated.
@@jimmyjames6487 lmao congratulations, you just played yourself
@@jimmyjames6487 I think it's time for Jimmy to get off the computer
They should be charged for attempting jury tampering.
Msnbc mafia
Once a scumbag, always a scumbag. The media is the enemy of free people.
And hiding evidence
@Donald Thorpe
Who is feeding you this koolaid?
@Patriot I couldn’t agree more
The only way Kyle loses is if the judge makes the jury mail in their votes.
They will kill him if he is let go I think
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mail in Vederict
😂 good one!
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On which Rittenhouse trial footage clip did you first see this joke? I know I’ve seen it at least 3 times in the last week. Very un-original
It was awesome seeing MSNBC humiliated like this today, made my day.
This is why the jury should be sequestered while deliberating.
Exactly!
I think they should have been sequestered the whole time they had people on the news saying that they were in the courtroom taking pictures of the jurors and they would find out who they were if they came back with a bad verdict.
@@sarabrant723 agree but AT LEAST for deliberation
@@primordialsoftware9294 actually sequestration is for the protection of the dignity of the jury trial.
12 angry men
That's the best news I've heard banning MSDNC is awesome......that judge is awesome
Holy crap! Juror harrassment! Following jurors is NOT ALLOWED, especially since they're still deliberating.
@Donald ThorpeNo it isn't
@Analog Human did u even watch it
@Donald Thorpe You know nothing, which explains everything.
@@jimpollard113 following the jury to expose their identity during a deliberation is legal???? Especially when there has already been threats towards the jury
@Donald Thorpe So is open carry in Wisconsin. Not guilty.
Jury intimidation is as old as America. Why haven't charges been brought?
The jury didn't see any intimidation.
@@crystaledmonds2216 I agree , all those people screaming and threatening to riot! That isn’t intimidation?
@@nibcamp3958 by taking photos of the jurors, MSNBC was basically going to use those photos by putting them up on National Television to get the crazies to go and kill them.
@@KayInMaine Did any pictures get taken?
@@crystaledmonds2216 It can't be intimidation if the jury didn't see it. Kind of stupid for letting them demonstrate right at the doors, but that's Wisconsin for you.
The fact that there are 500 armed national guard troops standing by to deal with the exact same group/mob of rioters that came for Kyle when he was all alone tells you everything you need to know about whether or not the shooting was justified.
Exactly right. Kyle fighting the same crowd that a whole guard is dealing with.
Exactly, it’s not rocket science is it
It wasn’t.
@@alexandraguia2068 you poor soul!
Excellent point.
I didn't hear the Judge say anything about anyone trying to impersonate a reporter. He said MSNBC is Not allowed back in & it's very serious.
They're controlled by the left. Remember their opinion is more important than you. You're guilty until proven innocent and even then you're still guilty.
Wrong!
It was a producer with MSNBC and he did it under orders from his boss.
Legacy media's Legacy is dogshit
@Jimolee's YT 💯🎯
PMSNBC should be sued and fined for jury intimidation
This is a clear case of Jury Tampering, there should be charges
No matter outcome , appeal will keep in spotlight ,, its not Ritter house on trial its our court system ,
Certainly, if they were only thinking about it before, they should seriously consider mistrial with prejudice now. Even the jury is in question now.
Yet you have no issues with Kyle getting to pick a juror like it's bingo or a raffle. When in our history of trials has that ever happened? I guess all accused criminals should now be allowed to do that as well. Or how bout the judge singing to Rittenhouse?This judge needs to be fired!
@@Poetryandthings if you actually listened to the judge, the jury selection issue is something he’s allowed for twenty years, so that answers your question. Now, when you learn the difference between apples and oranges, maybe you’ll understand what’s going on with this discussion.
@@Poetryandthings Tell us... oh great one of superior intellect... how did his picking the jurors affect the outcome?
Trying to out the jury so their puppets can try to intimidate them.
Or dox and terrorize them.
Yep, this needs to stop!!! Justice needs to be done! Rittenhouse is innocent!!! Let these so called "victims" be known in who thier character are!!!
Bricks were found in kenosha
Its time to go after the heads of the media companies
@@swagkillayolonoscopesgg bricks can be found wherever there are brick buildings…. SMH…
I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible to have a fair trial in todays political climate.
Looking real bad
@@forevermarked5826 😰
@@forevermarked5826 Its not if a case reaches the national media before you select the jury. Millions of people will have an instant opinion about a case based solely on what they heard on thier news media of choice. It's ridiculous to think that every juror is going to give a verdict based solely on the evidence when many have been exposed to opinions beforehand.
I hope so
I am astonished that the US has problems with North Korea at this point.
Jurors are now just worried about public opinion they should have concluded after 30 minutes for God sake this is ridiculous.
They're negotiating their book deals and speaking fees
Exactly
@Bryson Hall not guilty
@Bryson Hall OF WHAT !
Fear and doubt are where the devil creeps in and does his best worst works...
The people calling lawful citizens "terrorists" turn out to be the terrorists. Whierd.
He does work for msnbc and he was following the jury members. Msnbc is not allowed back in the court house.
Thanks.. I was like what the hell is he talking about impersonating
Hallelujah Hallelujah hallelujah!!!! Big time! MSNBC banned!! The White House banned Fox! Do all fake news!! Pray for this Judges Protection and jurors too.
That lieing fake news outlet shouldn't be allowed on tv or in America
@Josh Jones Bolsheviks too
@Josh Jones exactly that’s why she expresses hatred for the government ran industrial media complex… which attacks and shuts down those with opposing views… hey that sounds like fascism right?
i’m an attorney and i’m shocked at this trial. the judge is overwhelmed and so is the jury.
if any conviction comes, he has to throw it out. kyle should never spend a day in jail.
this is sick what prosecutors have done here.
Totally agree.
Agreed
Thank you for your professional opinion on this case. It gives me peace of mind. I’ve been constantly praying for Kyle, his family, the judge, the jury, and honestly even those guilty of evil intentions.
Absolutely!
I totally agree with you
This is outrageous they should be charged with terrorizing jurors or interference in deliberations. I'm so angry about this.
Then you should check out my what's really happening playlist...
Then you'll really be angry
Me too! This is insane
Don't worry, you'll find something else to be so angry about next week, and then something else the week after that.
If hes not guilty we riot... Murderer
@@BackwoodsFilms exactly
Rooting for Kyle in the UK…Let’s go Brandon!
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Kyle is free mate :D
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu I wrote this before the verdict….I’m so happy 😀
That msnbc staffer should be on trial for corrupting the jurors by illegally and unauthorized tracking the jury.
100%
He is going to be charged
@Josh Jones you know the judge is an obama appointee, dudes just a fair judge
@Josh Jones Judge was appointed by a Democrat. Nice try but try harder.
You are correct Sir.
Sounds like intimidation.
That lad is well and truly screwed, no way a jury should take three days to come to a verdict on the evidence presented. They are afraid to render a NG verdict.
It would be highly immoral to let a murderer go
Is it any wonder they're afraid with all the protesters outside the courthouse?
@@willoweable Kyle is a hero. Cope.
@@willoweable self defense.
@@willoweable Luckily, Rittenhouse isn't a murderer.
The only reason it's taken three days is because there are people in the jury who are not looking at the facts. They're siding with their political ideology. This case is a disgrace to the legal system. SHAMEFUL
I agree with you
That's what I'm afraid of too.
Yeah.. Unbiased jury would be great but we know it's like X amount of people saying "well I think he shouldn't have been there" and Y amount of people going "LOOOOOK you Dense motherf-"
Thats why our Justice system is broken. We take the average idiot who has no idea what they're talking about, and put them infront of people who do. Then see which sides circus theater impresses said idiot more.
Unfortunately!
Chasing a bus full of jurors - what exactly was he hoping to accomplish here? Seems like attempted juror intimidation to me
*she
"You can't even intimidate a jury anymore? I'm sorry, I thought this was America." - MSNBC probably
Haha I read that in Randy's voice from south park😆😆😆😆
Jury should have been sequestered. Time for mistrial.
@Sam Vimes the defense does.
@Sam Vimes yea but the defense is filing for a mistrial due to prejudice by prosecutors
If this kid is found guilty, then I know 1) the jury is afraid of the fallout 2) I will now believe there is no justice for the innocent based on politics
He not a Kid
So you don’t think the Jury is afraid of you and the millions that feel he should be found not guilty?
@@elaineharden7868 remember that when you or anyone else refers to kids in the military! Can’t have it both ways! Just saying!
@@DJSteezy i am one of those who believe he is not guilty by the videos i have seen, but that being said if he is found guilty i am not one to go and burn down or go and hurt people only criminals do that
@@DJSteezy hahaha , no
For the love of God just mistrial this whole thing. Stop waterboarding Kyle. We all know he's innocent. A couple of Karen's are holding the verdict up.
The woke media needs to milk this trial as much as possible.
And sacrifice Kyle in the Altar of wokeism
@@GossAug Well it can be a "mistrial with prejudice" which means the prosecution can never call for another trial against Kyle on this same case, because the case is considered too tainted, it's effectively a not guilty verdict by default.
NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@Firebolt193 I would say it's a win-win now, lol.
@@Firebolt193 YESSIR
This is messed up. They're trying to bully the jurors.
It's all talk
Judge allows this circus, disgrace
Bully? Yikes
Trumpers have never bullied anyone to change something? Interesting! Pot meet kettle.
@@waynekerr5728 🤡
Cool, arrest him with for contempt and jury tampering and don't give him bail.
Yep, put him in solitary confinement with no representation.
Yeah don't give him bail until the trial is over.
Raid his house at 3am! Nothing will happen...he's on the left!
It looks like MSNBC sanctioned it as well. I really hope this blows up in their face.
They didn’t arrest him. The judge said they gave him a traffic ticket and he didn’t appear to the court room today
Free Kyle!! Let's Go Brandon!!
Let’s go Brandon is the herd call of the right sheep lol bahhh bath
@@FairyS-h9m you say that like it's a bad thing...
Wow, it is not only unethical to follow the jurors, but immoral and evil.
We all know MSNBC (OR MSDNC) has no morality, honesty or goodness. They're up there w/CNN for pushing lies & asking fear & division. Intentionally misleading the public. It's pathetic & they have no good faith IMO for our country.
That is the news today
Not to mention illegal....
@@robinhokenson4118 yep, i left that one out intentionally to drive the point home ;)
Regardless of whether you think Kyle should be acquitted or not, this should infuriate & alarm everyone.
Not democrats because they cheat at everything they do. Elections, trials obeying laws, paying taxes, following city codes, etc.
But it don't infuriate those that think he's guilty, what DOES THAT tell you about that side? All you need to know!
It does bad judgement remember we all see it differently
This person needs to be charged with tampering with the jury. This is ridiculous and we think Kyle will get a fair verdict! Pray these jurors aren’t swayed by all the antics.
Not just this person MSNBC should have their feet put to the fire.
I hope the jurors won't be swayed either. That is my concern. Kyle was clearly defending himself.
He had orders from higher up to follow and stalk the bus. Heads will surely roll here
A lawsuit should be filed against MSNBC.
And all of the jurors should sue the prosecution for pointing an AR-15 at them all! That's assault!
Exactly. The media keeps crying they have first amendment rights. But the first amendment only protects them from the government. Not a private citizen. Also, stalking and harassment, aren't protected by the first amendment.
@@KayInMaine I'm not condoning it, but lawyers are immune in such cases while they are in the courthouse. I've heard that the judge allowed it because he did nothing that was against the rules. The judge, however, should have stopped it because the lawyer didn't check the firearm himself. It was negligent on his part and is very much the same way Alec Baldwin killed Halyna Hutchins.
There will be !!!!!!!!
Thank you Kyle for proving to the world that self defense is not illegal!!!🇺🇸
Why would you thank a kid that brings an AR to intimidate rioters? You’re just looking for trouble at that point. Then you’re thanking him for getting into a situation that went extremely wrong and ends in death? No one should be thanking this delinquent
@@guitarlolfriend He went there to help people, clean walls and extinguish fire.
Rifle is made as deadly, but most efficient self defense tool.
Im not surprised he took it with him. As you probably saw on video if he didnt take it he would be the one dead.
@@catthebutcher9438 im pretty weary believing that given the video where he mentioned hed like to shoot people if he had his gun
If only a judge could ban them from existence.
lol no doubt
What if they did not work for MSNBC as the fox reporter indicated?
@@SaltyMinorcan they did. The judge said it and multiple other news outlets have confirmed it.
@@SaltyMinorcan
So far it seems that all the other news outlets aren't stalking the jurors like MSNBC did. It seems that they know it's, NOT ok to do that. 🤔
...or is it that your real question is, "would people be hypocritical enough to think Fox or any other right leaning outlet stalking the jury is ok"?
The answer is, of course. It's wrong no matter who does it. Witness or jury intimidation is illegal.
I have banned them from my existence. Stopped watching and listening to MSNBC many decades ago. Scumbags the lot.
They weren’t “impersonating” MSNBC News…THEY WERE MSNBC News
It's fact. He works for NBC NYC.
@@janetprice85 both are owned by blackrock and vanguard
@@janetprice85 did an internet search and all the info was missing...
yeah, it's too easy to believe that someone that stupid works for them. lol
@@vladk1190 MSNBC...where "C"students in journalism school work.
Judge is desperatly trying to let jury decide this. So many reasons for mistrial already. Not going to take much more for this to be dismissed
Pretty sure he's just hoping for a not guilty. If not, I think he eventually calls a mistrial after the protestors disperse.
just what the st. wants a mistrial
I agree, and I think the judge is determined to see that a jury verdict is respected. In that, he's engaged in wishful thinking. If Kyle is found not guilty the judge will be branded by the left as a white supremicist. If Kyle is found guilty the judge will be called gutless by the right. The sad thing is that the jury will think it has found the truth, but outside the court both sides are prepared to excoriate them if the decision goes the wrong way. Everyone on the jury knows this. How trial can be considered fair in these conditions is beyond me.
Judge can overrule the jury anyway
@@TheNichq Yeah….I think he’ll veto the jury’s decision, if they come back with a guilty verdict.
That’s a damn shame & the people who are contributing to the demise of a fair trial and system are too dumb to realize it will come back on them eventually.
They are too caught up in their selfish popularity contest to care. Virtue signal engage
It’s funny because those same people are the ones who say “our justice system has failed, what is wrong with this country” etc etc. but then when there is actually a fair trial with a judge that plays everything by the book they get mad and act like it’s a hoax. Just because you don’t like an outcome doesn’t mean it was biased or unfair :/
Absolutely
The facts show him to be INNOCENT...
The point is - you wouldn't care if the facts showed him to be guilty - you'd still want him to get off ..........
@@Jsee66 If BLM had murdered Kyle NOBODY would be on trial
@@Jsee66 it's truly laughable that you would say that, when it's the LEFT who champions for criminals. There's a statue and a field named after George Floyd and Jacob Blake is still being treated like a hero when he's a sexual predator. Really, Grosskreutz ought to be on trial for attacking Rittenhouse AND arson.
@@aaronsweeney5428 Where exactly are THOSE charges?
@Jsee66 no. You're the ones that make heroes out of criminals.
If the jury is taking the potential *effects* of their verdict into consideration during deliberations, they are breaking their oath and that is wrong. The potential effects of any potential verdict have to be irrelevant.
This no matter what verdict grounds for mistrial , anyone who made comment in media ,that supported false ideology, should be charged ,and if public employee imedeitly discharged ,if voted in they violated oath,,should resign or face severe Consequence's
Their downtown has already been burned to the ground once and likely never to be rebuilt. So of course they are going to take the effects of the verdict into consideration. The trial should have happened elsewhere and not in Kenosha for this very reason
Results will be tainted , its shame ,,our system of judiciary processes is what trying to overturn ,
not only should the staffer that did this be locked up for a very, very long time, but so should his boss that directed him to follow the bus. That will put a stop to it for future cases
Maybe they let Kyle have a go at him too
If there are any guilty verdicts, mistrial is the only proper resource.
Good bye MSNBC. There network isn’t any good anyway.
Baaa... the sheep who follow MSNBC will be bleating their pathetically brainwashed hearts out.
Their
Free Kyle 🇺🇸
In what universe do they think this is ok. They need to throw this case out based on that alone.
@Donald Thorpe sure there is Free Press but not when it harms other people no different than free speech
@Donald Thorpe following the jury is affecting the right to a fair trial.
@Donald Thorpe You give MSNBC too much credit by calling them 'the press'. Real news organizations have the ethics to not follow serving jury members and thus compromise an ongoing trial. Tabloid trash opinion cable 'news' outlets clearly don't have the same ethical considerations.
@Donald Thorpe wtf. You got me all wrong. Rights apply to everyone not just you snowflake
@Donald Thorpe Here is something else that is protected and useful: A Fair Trial. That clown at MSNBC tried to jeopardize that process all for a cheap scoop.
This is VERY SERIOUS, the individual should be locked up. It could potentially endanger their lives!
They needed to be kicked out of the hearings especially if they're trying to get pictures of the Jury. Congrats to the Judge.
I understand why the Judge wants the jury to come to decision. But at the point of open jury intimidation and after the antics of the prosecution, this case should be dismissed with prejudice to stop this from occurring again. You cant render a fair verdict in the light of this bullying.
@@joefatalooch8057 I agree with you 💯. When the defense did what they did yesterday and then MSNBC did, any other lawyer would have already thrown it out but I understand his dilemma.
I love this judge very fair and not afraid.
Good!! Time that these arrogant pushy rude reporters get told off.
@Donald Thorpe prove it commie
News channels have violated this man's case from the beginning ! Only 1-2 telling the truth about the case! This young man should sue everyone including Biden for slander! News channels need to be put back in there place! They are a disgrace to America! Utubers are doing a better job than them! I would belive a utuber live video than CNN. NSNBC and all the other idiout channels! Many Americans feel the same way! Look at there ratings! Smh!!!
The judge should say he’s 100% free this is crazy it was obviously self-defense and the prosecutor belongs in jail
Yea your crazy knowing that a 17 year old shouldn't have a gun and also he had no business being around that area making is own choice what to do which police officers is their job to do their business, A 17 year old home with his parents not be involved going out with a gun knowing will he wanted to go shoot someone and what he did killed 2 unarmed injured 1 person which the people were trying to stop him from using his gun, but you know where he is going ones he pass which he will burn 🔥 obviously,and you think he 100% should be free will God will take that as a No for what he did.
@@dlivex9492 Man you really don’t listen to the details of the case, you brainwashed by the media sir 😂
The video footage they said was too late to allow shows Rittenhouse aiming at people first!
We all seen the video, he only opened fire against anyone possing a threat to his life.
He didn't shoot them when they backed off, but only when they drew too close.
Anyways if those people were vandalizing or burning private property the Rittenhouse had every right to defend the property of his friends, relatives neighbors and Any American citizen in need of his protection, amen.🤔
What's the difference between LeBron James and Kyle Rittenhouse?...... Kyle doesn't miss shots under pressure.
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Comment of the day😂
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Sheeeesh
So … I think MSNBC should be sued !
Typical of MSNBC.
I do not understand why so many others who have had guns, pointed them at people, or following jury bus have not been ticketed and on trial. It feels like Kyle is being railroaded.
Yes, where are the attempted murder charges against that man that chased him down saying I'm gonna kill you and then pulling out his hand gun attempting to murder him just for defending his fellow Americans property fron rioting vandals.🤔
Let's go Brandon
Finally someone standing up to the corrupt media
You're right. Prosecuting attorney would let it slide
That “reporter “ should be thrown in jail !
Yeah! So that he can photograph and document Kyle blubbing like a baby whilst he serves out his life sentence with the Big Boys :-) In the clink is where Kyle belongs, doing hard time for his crimes.
@@PhilGregory101 He didn't commit any.
I am so thankful for this national treasure of a judge. He's quirky, to be sure! He's also sharp and fair, and he unabashedly shuts down nonsense.
I won’t understand if this doesn’t end in mistrial. I was on a jury once and we broke for lunch. A man approached me and tried to bring up the case. I reported it to the judge and even though I had immediately shut the conversation down, they had a huge investigation. It ended in a mistrial and it wasn’t even a high profile case like this one.
Go Greg, We Love Greg. You will go Free Greg...
Lets go Gregory.
yeah they need to mistrial with predjuctice so they cant retrial
Because the defense doesn't want a mistrial. They know if they go in any other courtroom under any other jury they will lose. They want to keep this judge and jury no matter what.
@@kazyink7187 Oh I guess thats why theyve already asked for a mistrial? Because they dont want that to happen?
LET'S GO BRANDON
That producer should have intimidation charges brought on them... media outlets have no right to harass jurors or even bother them during this trying time
A no nonsense judge. What a concept.
Anything other than Kyle walking will be a complete and utter disgrace
So many mistakes done for this trial. A boys life is at stake and so called adults just not behaving like they should. Shameful.
Who cares he took lives
A kid who is a murderer ! What kind of kid walks around with an Assault riffle. I don’t know any kids that walk around with a AR-15. It’s shameful to think he’s a kid.
@@dgonz666 it's not an assault rifle please just stop.
@@johnfakester5527 nothing worth keeping around
What kind of dumb fucks chase a kid with a gun don't blame it on the kid
Let's guess how long Joy Reid will talk about how racist this is and that the public deserves to know who jury members are. How about she gives out her address and phone number?
That is sickening why else would you do that. If not to see the jurors and intimidate them. A mere traffic infraction is not enough. This case should never seen a court room. And if they find him guilty know one will try to do what right again. This young man was doing what the police should have been doing. For those who don't agree let's set your house or business on fire. See how you feel as watch helplessly as burns to the ground. God help us what has happened to this country.
We are Kyle. It's our right to defend ourselves that is on trial.
It’s also you right to stay away from protest that have nothing to do with you
@@kamryndesha3066 tell that the Black Lives Matter and antifa!
@@kamryndesha3066 A protest of people claiming to be my victims has everything to do with me. Know this, those who claim to be my victims are much more likely to become my actual victims than those who claim to be my masters are likely to become my actual masters.
@@PALM311 antifa is not real and Black Lives Matter is a movement against police brutality which black people are often victims of
@Citizen Dissident III so blacks should stay home and let the police brutalize their community?? People get fed up and that’s no reason for privileged white people to enter that space trying to control outrage that has NOTHING to do with them!!!!!
This absolutely ridiculous. Prosecutors have no case.
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The case is, Kyle brought a gun across state lines to kill peaceful protesters. Premeditated murder if you ask me.
@@smokingjoe9864 muh state lines
@@smokingjoe9864 tell us you haven't watched the trial without telling us you haven't watched the trial.🙄🙄🙄
@@smokingjoe9864 have you paid attention at all?
🙏🙏🙏🙏 Rittenhouse is a patriot, and a hero
I love how the media guy speaking jumps to the conclusion that the person following the bus was impersonating an MSNBC reporter even tho the judge never said anything of the sort. They are all so corrupt!
you can tell he was told to say that after the fact when he first mentioned it he never mentioned impersonation then after the judge spoke he changed it as if he was later told to say that.
"The" bus? You think there is only one big bus of jurors as a mode of transporting the jurors in a case like this?
"The bus"🤣
Check out the movie “Twelve Angry Men”, about a jury deciding on the fate of a man. Fantastic script. Just a brilliant examination of people’s emotion, bias and judgement!
Thanks
I read that a couple years back, before the pandemic. I wish it was decided like how the book did it, facts and logic, no bias or emotions.
such a powerful movie. watched it a couple years ago and I would highly recommend it to anyone. great character study movie, exploring how prejudices and motivations that can cause problems with judgement, and how hard it can be to see them in ourselves.
Wonderful movie!
CLASSIC MOVIE!
Why aren’t these people charged with intimidation? If people on the right acted like this, you know damn well they’d be charged with something
Because there's no backlash, at all, ever, just a bunch of words. At least the "lefties" will gather in protest, threaten and burn until stuff gets done. Seems like that's the only way to do it nowadays. The easiest and quickest way to get results is to make people fear for thier lives. Right wingers need to crawl out of their moralistic shell and fight fire with fire or their
Way of life will perish.
I think they will be, as politics should not matter in that kind of charge. The wheels turn slowly, so this will be out of the media by that time. I'm not on the right at all, but it doesn't matter, I think anyone jury tampering should be held accountable. I don't want Kyle to get off on a technicality, I want him to be validated that he was defending himself.
I think of women who are raped and told it's their fault for walking alone at night or wearing suggestive clothing (or even who work as a prostitute.) He shouldn't lose the right to defend himself just because he is young and made the same choices everyone else there made. The people who made the choice to attack caused their own situation. He didn't go there to kill, or he'd have killed the people who were not attacking him, I'd venture to say. :-)
How is it jury intimidation for following a bus when the jury doesn't know who is in the car? Things that make you go duh.
@@jimmyjames6487 I was wondering that too, and since I had not read up on it. I assumed there must be more to it than just that. Isn't there more to it?
Anybody that feels this kid is guilty needs to leave the country.
Sure, it might be a good idea to sue the networks for defamation before he does tho
Amen
@@rockandguts7877 before who does what?
@@donaldmiller4386 leave. It would be a good idea to leave the country considering how many antifa nutjobs are out there
@@rockandguts7877 But who leave? What I am saying is Antifa type people are the ones that need to leave
Yes , thank you judge and Kenosha police .
It's time to take a stand for justice. This is much bigger than Kyle right now. Judge is on point today. Keep the news out.
Shouldn't this be called witness intimidation!? 🤷🏾♂️ Justice for that young man Kyle! ✊🏾
Jury tampering is closer. The producer that was cited for running a traffic light. He needs some jail time. Just following orders doesn’t cut it. He knew what he was doing was a felony.
Taking Pictures of The Jury Puts Thier Lives in Danger
@@theDemocraticway Correct, being asked to break the law by your employer is still breaking the law. Not an excuse.
@@theDemocraticway If a soldier can be charged for unlawful orders than a reported sure as hell should be.
@@theDemocraticway how is following a bus from a block away jury tampering when the jury doesn't even know who is in the car?
The judge really needs to dismiss the case with prejudice, the fact that someone tried to follow the jurors is practically trying to scare them into a guilty verdict
How do you know why they were pressured ? Could've been just trying to get an exclusive you don't know what the reason was... People really need to stop making assumptions
@@blackfox00 roflmao
He will. I'm sure of it.
Or scare them into an innocent verdict
Naw! They wanted to take pic's of the jury and plaster them on TV because they believe they are entitled to do so. That way the Antifa-type mobs can go burn down their houses when he is Acquitted
The jury is sequestered to ensure integrity of the trial!
And they keep complaining that the judge is bias 🤣
The Judge told MSNBC to not get brazen with him.
Lol
The producer should be arrested. And put on trial for jury intimidation.
Producer and crazy nut driver. These people belong behind bars. This is not a joke
How was he intimidating the jury by following the bus when the jury doesn't know who is in the car?
@@jimmyjames6487 do you have issues with basic critical thinking
How many excuses does the Judge need to declare a mistrial???
The judge should suspend the whole MSN channel for a year or so. Do American a favor
Common sense tells u what the media tried to portray the kid..without any facts initially when the story was first reported ..up to the jurors to figure that out with the facts théy heard in court
Typical leftist tactics.
True. Even Biden was commenting negatively about it too. At the very least, Biden's actions were so unethical, unprofessional, and clearly lacking any truth.
Just the fact that they hid the identities and videos as long as they did and called a Hispanic kid white supremacist shows where they were going at they wanted it to be a white supremacist shoots black guys at BLM protest
Media and Joe Biden.
If this judge has any balls he will call a mistrial with prejudice!!!
This is exactly what needs to be done
Agreed! The fact that he hasn't makes the judge lose points in my book.
@@glorifyenjoy
I started out liking this judge but now I have doubts about him.
The judge can hold onto the mistrial until the verdict comes. He’s probably waiting to see the verdict, if he’s guilty he’ll probably call a mistrial, but he doesn’t want to call a mistrial in the case that there is an acquittal.
@@Auchura825 yeah I'd rather have him win on a not guilty verdict then on a technicality
How many times is the judge going to excuse jury intimation?
All the way to a guilty verdict I’m afraid.
Exactly
@@debbiereynolds8489 I doubt it, the judge seems pretty cool about this.
@@Misha-dr9rh he’s allowed video in after evidence was closed. Reprimanded the prosecution multiple times only to back off and let it go. Seems more intimated than cool, in my opinion.
Criminally charge them for intimidating A jury
I hope the court stands against any unfairness. I hope the judge stands strong and make the right decisions
I think he will, he’s been pretty straight forward and honest and fair the whole trial in my opinion.
He will. It just sucks that the media brainwashes people and tries to spin it so that the judge is the bad guy. I hate media.
Do the jurors get to go home in the evening's?
Yes the jury goes home. They have like until 8 or 9 PM if not then they conclude for the night and come back in morning. This is insane tho. NOT GUILTY has to come
This case should've never made it to court nevermind to jury deliberation.
@John its because they were raised where there were no consequences to thier actions.
@@Zero_cool79 Wow, that sounds similar to the diagnosis the judge made up about Ethan Couch, the ol "Affluenza" defense. Poor, poor entitled kid. Meanwhile 4 victims lie dead due to his DUI, oh wait, can't call them victims.
@@VISITOR...5 kids raised with out fear of consequences become untrainable, useless adults. Change my mind.
@@Zero_cool79 I disagree, some become president.
The fact they’re taking this long for what’s so obviously a not guilty verdict is problematic. If Kyle were black they would’ve said not guilty on day 1. There wouldn’t have even been a trial
People love to mention white privilege but sadly fail to mention the emergence of black privilege 🤦♂️
@@gx7829 That's right!!
Oh my. Rather surprised to hear MSNBC affiliated would engage in such questionable and illegal behavior while driving a vehicle. It brings to mind what terrible events occured with media representatives chasing Princess Diana on that fateful day. My impression of NBC overall has changed as a result of this serious and egregious offense.
Yeah, running red lights is seriously irresponsible!
@@and_the_first_last I'm sure the RACIST demoncrats at MSNBC are far more guilty than just the running of red lights. Nevertheless, the RACIST are banned from this courtroom.
Juror intimidation. How much more juror intimidation will there have to be before he declares a mistrial.
God please stand with Kyle. God please stand with America.
Amen!
Amen
In Jesus Christ name Amen!
I really like this Judge, he is fair, and MSNBC should be shut down.
@@bottlerocket3218 prove it commie
I agree. I'm glad it's this judge trying this case.
@@bottlerocket3218 BLM supports pedos. I assume u do too
@@bottlerocket3218 the kid is going to walk, now sit on the corner and freebase that copium my man. Or is it my woman? Don't want to "misgender" you.
IT WAS SELF DEFENCE SHOULD NOT EVER BE A TRIAL. WITH THAT BEING SAID THESE JURIORS SHOULD NOT BE THREATENED. THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE THREATING NEEDS TO BE SENT TO PRISON FOR DOMESTIC TERRIORIST