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@Mince Verlot did you even watch the video? People are way too worried about pesticides when the true environmental impact comes from having to produce more all year long just to maintain 'organic' products. Focusing on seasonal produce reduces the needs thus production of out-of-season products, leading to a far better environmental impact that any organic labels ever could.
@Mince Verlot u r an idiot 🙄 resort to belittling sentence structure and grammar when you realize you know nothing of farming in general, either that or you're just an angry gardener worried ur going to lose CSA's this year 😢
@Mince Verlot the amount of Pesticides in non organic crops is negligible in most cases. Dose make the poison. There is no real reason for buying organic but being a Esnob one
Mince Verlot Have you ever really looked at scientific data? Or just hit-pieces? You keep dismissing serious concerns and discussions without providing counter-arguments. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion, but I AM disagreeing with the way you present it.
@Mince Verlot Children eating organic over inorganic removes mental illness? *looks up high anxiety rates* Edit: You called bs immediately after watching 2 minutes. You are intellectually lazy like the rest of us. Because most of us probably watched this for our confirmation bias
@Bel H Ignorance is a disease. I can agree on that. Such as the fools who continue to deny the impacts of climate change and the disastrous impacts that will come with it. But I quite frankly side with most people who view this channel as highly informative and educational. Of course there’s people that are gonna go on and on that everything they say is bullshit and false. Even if this video was incorrect, that doesn’t condemn every single video they make on this channel to be garbage. Each of their videos shows the effort they put in to make. It takes 1200 hours to make a video. Which I don’t believe is far fetched. Gathering information, sending it to have it looked over by others sources, re writing, recording the narration and animating the video and making music. All that adds up. And don’t throw the “I do x” and I have “x” qualification. How does that relate to the accusations you’re throwing at them?
@Bel H just admit that you’re wrong and can’t handle it dude. i’m sorry that you’re offended by the scientific facts that this video presents, but “facts don’t care about your feelings”, as some would say.
Correct, it's all about perception. I once worked for Campbells/Arnotts and we had a meeting about a new product and they were talking about how it was healthier, I looked at the sugar content and it was as high as soft drink but they were saying because it contained 'natural sugars' it was healthy. I argued it didn't matter, sugar is sugar. They didn't like that, I was just supposed to shut my mouth and go along with it, even though I knew better. Just because I wear the uniform it doesn't mean I can't call out bullshit when you're trying to feed it to me.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Natural sugar is actually healthier though. That's why shit like raisins aren't awful for you, despite having insane amounts of sugar. Most likely still not healthy though, and i'm not expert.
My biggest problem with "organic" is that plenty of things that claim to be organic aren't, which is blatant false advertising but yet the brands aren't held accountable for it at all. And that's even before you get into the murky consensus of what is and isn't organic.
As a farmer it's refreshing to see an honest look at this topic instead of something loaded with all of the popular BS that typically goes along with anything organic.
The solution of this video happens to be the solution to every problem ever. Explore all possibilities and compromise. Ideas don’t have to fight each other. They often can add to one another.
Have you ever tasted a tomato that was home grown? After you eat one of those, a regulat supermarket tomato is like a 3d printed imitation with a poor excuse of a taste in comparison. If conventional can get to the necessary level and actually produce material that doesn't taste like plastic, this discussion wouldn't even be necessary, as we can wash our veggies, effectively destroying the pesticide problem. I'd say, swap synthetic fertilisers with compost and all will be gucci.
@@Hr1s7i have you even watched the video? They clearly say that organic doesn’t use synthetic pesticide, so at the end of the day, organic is already doing what you said. (By the way… I can’t believe you just used gucci…)
@@Hr1s7i Organic, conventional, home grown or in test tube, compost or synthetic fertiliser, none of that makes any difference to the taste of a tomato if it's picked too early. Commercially grown tomatoes, no matter how they're farmed, are picked before they are ripe so they will survive long transportation and storage. They ripen in transit, but no longer being attached to the plant, they don't receive all the sugars and nutrients that make it taste great. Grow it at home, or buy locally grown, and that problem is eliminated, the tomatoes can be picked when they're properly ripe, have received all the sugars and nutrients from the plant at the end of ripening, and will taste fantastic.
An important detail that's missed is that soil isn't just dead matter, it's full of fungus. Healthy soil requires a connection to these deeper mycelial networks in order to access the full range of nutrients. It could be that our farming techniques sever this connection and prevent the soil from replenishing. If we solve this issue, we could get more nutrition with less food.
exactly. I used to date a horticulturist and she said the same thing. Now each year I replenish my garden soil with compost to ensure more nutrients. They need to do a better job to give the soil all the minerals and bacteria it needs. Growing vegetable on low nutrient soil...organic or not...will have an impact on your crops nutrients and taste.
@404 Limit Pesticides already have been proven in this video to be a non-health issue, due to regulations keeping their levels in check. Besides, there are much more prominent concerns, like fungi and bacteria. Secondly, you are taking that "Seasonal is the true organic" bit out of context. The narrator meant eating vegetables in season is most certainly eco-friendly. Though, I wish more is to be said on that particular claim.
@@apieinthesky "Pesticides already have been proven in this video to be a non-health issue, due to regulations keeping their levels in check." IS THE MOST IDIOTIC thing i've read today. Believe 404 Limit: there is a skull on every bottle of liquid that is sprayed on your food my dear.
It cant keep up. There simply isnt enough land for it. All land that can be easily used for farming already is. Most of whats left is either national reserves or rocky ground that dont produce crops without significant terraforming. The figures are a bit outdated, but some poeple calculated how much we could produce on regenerative basis and it would be enough to feed around 500 million people in the world. There are currently more than 7000 million. Without conventional farming most of us would starve.
@Strazdas Everything you've stated is categorically wrong. Not all land is being used, "conventional" farming only started in the 1930s when there were already 2 billion people on the planet. "Conventional" isn't sustainable because the soil nutrients is declining over time and if we continue the current trends, the soil will be completely dead by 2080 so regenerative is the Only long term solution because it focuses on the soil health which also in turn increases the nutrients of the plants
@@jackdanielson1997 Conventional farming started in the 15th century when we invented crop rotation. We are using pretty much all land that is easily arable. Whats left is either a) forests, b) rocky land not good for agriculture or c) national parks. We could kill the C option and expand the cropland a bit but i doubt we will. Regenerative farming cannot sustain more than a billion people on the planet. Good luck convincing the other 6 billion they need to die.
@@deri1942 Good question! Yes, farms definitely need fertilizer. Manufactured fertilizers won't be around forever, unfortunately. Phosporous mines will run out in 50-100 years, and phosporous runoff into waterways isn't recoverable (yet...maybe someone will find out how to do it). Using farm animal manure instead for fertilizer (by purchasing manure or having more mixed-use farms) would solve the fertilizer problem.
Organic = less efficient. With earth's population expected to rise to 11 billion, should we really be promoting something that uses more land and produces less food? This seems so counter-intuitive.
We already produce enough food to feed the world, but a lot is thrown away or fed to livestock. A UN report found that we could feed the world with organic food.
The symptoms that bugs have (neurological damage) when dying of pesticides are also some of the symptoms of dementia and Parkinson's. In many instances, the bug's nervous system is so disrupted that its motor skills begin to get violently shakey, and the autonomic system that keeps it breathing and other systems alive shut down. KEEP in mind that washing grapes (or anything) doesn't "completely" help with the use of pesticides. ** When pesticides are used, they eventually are rained or watered into the soil that the plant ROOTs drink from. The plant grows from what comes up out of the soil into the roots, into the plant, and into the food it produces. ** Think of it this way - - Put a white daisy into the water with green / red / OR blue food color....IN a few days the white daisy has become another color. Having nothing sprayed on it -- It has pulled up what was in the moisture in the soil - - OR in this case, just from the water.
I think why they did that is because... stretching the animations to 10 mins+ is much harder... and the extra ad revenue will probably not be worth it at that point
Ever seen a kurzgesagt video with ads? They dont monetise them, that's why Also technically it's two videos a month since they produce for their german channel with the same team
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I grow both organic and conventional. Farmers grow what the market wants! Educating consumers on the difference is a massive challenge that most farmers would rather avoid. Organic also sells for more so farmers have an incentive to grow organically to make more money! Thank you for the awesome video!!!
I wounder where antibiotics fit into the organic vs conventional argument. If there is antibiotics in my meat than that scares me. How can we limit use of antibiotics?
I’ve been to a Dole banana farm in Guatemala before. When we asked why the pesticide plane turned around in a certain area, they responded, “oh those are the organic ones” and I promise, they were getting sprayed indirectly by being in proximity.
Jonathan Bryant Yh unless your country grows bananas, real organic bananas are hard to find... For banana importing countries, there’s little to no difference between organic and normal bananas :/
@@kuyaleinad4195 there's no such thing as organic bananas ( at least in the countries that don't grow them). All the bananas we eat are clones of the cavendish. Here's a rule of thumb- if there are seeds in the banana the size of your thumb, it's organic. If not, it's a genetically modified clone.
Ethan Lam Yeah I knew that XD But I still see ‘Organic Bananas’ at my local supermarket here in the UK even though they’re cavendish bananas :/ And there are seedless varieties of wild bananas but they’re not really edible
3:48 Well people who buy organic stuff tend to eat healthier in general. It makes perfect sense that they have a lower cancer rate overall. It's caused by correlation, not causation; that is, people who eat organic food also eat less hamburgers and more apples, and as a result have less cancer. Not that the organic apples actually help them avoid cancer. Meaning that the study is simply misleading, if you think about it from a logical standpoint.
If your concern is environmental, buy local. The greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles transporting distant or out of season foodgoods (for many Americans this includes sugar, coffee, chocolate, oranges, seafood) far outweighs the impact on the environment of the foodgoods themselves. As usual exercise moderation erring on temperance wherever possible.
^^^ THIS!!! ^^^ Something i want to add though. If you can, grow your own veggies and fruits!! You don’t have to even grow them outside if you don’t have the space. Use big tubs and fill them with dirt. You can grow things like herbs, tomatoes, beans, peas, strawberries, blueberries, etc. Also aeroponics which is growing food out of dirt and spraying the bare roots with water, aka having them suspended in the air. And there’s hydroponics big towers with tiny pockets of spongey-stuff that the roots are in that cycles the water around in an evaporation cycle. Both of these have lots of online tutorials on how to make them. But if you don’t feel like making a fancy holder for your plants, just use big tubs with dirt in them. Oh!! And another plus of growing your own is that it’s cheaper than buying them. Once you get going it’s nice to have a constant supply of veggies and fruits. I recommend growing plants that give more than one yield. Root vegetables also are plantable but give less yield than planting say, peas which grow more pods like every day. And if you can’t put them outside to be pollenated, you can find tutorials to hand pollenate.
@@pintailee7077 It really depends on how extreme you’re thinking. Unsustainable in the short term farming can be really efficient because it’s so lazy while high quality organic can be quite consumptive of resources. It’s worth saying transportation makes up a massive amount of the world’s CO2 emissions; however, your typical commuters make up a tiny amount of that compared to the transport of goods. Agriculture is pretty small compared to transport. Local is better, whichever way you have it, but specific practices are the most efficient while being sustainable that almost nobody uses in conjunction with one another.
You missed out concerns about the people working on the farms I think. My understanding is that often organic certification also includes minimum labour standards that are not necessarily law in the country where the food is produced. With bananas for example, buying Fairtrade or organic means the workers don’t have to handle the conventional chemicals that can severely damage their fertility, because the Fairtrade and organic certifications only allow the safer chemicals.
@@geocyo8835 Well, some scientists HAVE successfully synthesized crude oil in a lab now. And they Hypothesize that it is formed from hyper-compressed organic matter. Note, they STILL say it takes "millions of years, normally" despite making it in a matter of days in a lab. XD
at 4:14, the study actually says: "The hazard index for pesticides for a Danish adult was on level with the hazard quotient for alcohol for a person consuming the equivalent of 1 glass of wine every seventh year".
@@myself2noone _"The glyphosate-based herbicide disrupts aromatase activity and mRNA levels and interacts with the active site of the purified enzyme, but the effects of glyphosate are facilitated by the Roundup formulation in microsomes or in cell culture. We conclude that endocrine and toxic effects of Roundup, not just glyphosate, can be observed in mammals. We suggest that the presence of Roundup adjuvants enhances glyphosate bioavailability and/or bioaccumulation."_ - *Environ Health Perspect. 2005 Jun;113(6):716-20*
So basicly saying. If you wanna safe yourself and the world. Don't buy exotic food made in other countries. Stick to local stuff. But i absolutely hate Sprouts tho :(
Nice video! Regarding meat and dairy products, I think a lot of people buy organic for the animal welfare. Would have been nice to consider that aspect 😊
@@PrivateMcPrivate in Florida if cows aren’t on the land then mass maundactured neighborhood pops up. Here perserving ranch land is preserving the wildlife corridor.
Buy Organic (Small Brain) Buy Either one since there is not much difference (Big Brain) Buy Seasonal/Local Produce (Woke) Growing your own produce the way you want (Ascended)
GMO vs Organic doesn't really matter from an environmental standpoint, the real problem is with mono-culturing across the agriculture industry as a whole, both organic and non-organic. The extremely high demand for certain foods all year round (corn, tomatoes, strawberries, you name it) results in both farmers and growing companies to plant massive fields of the same crop over and over and over again. You see, the way farming used to be more commonly practiced is with a methodology called crop rotation. When you plant something in the ground, be it anything from potatoes to pineapples, they take nutrients from the soil (which gives them their flavor) and leaves nutrients behind when they're harvested (which enriches the soil). This is pretty much how all farming of any kind was done for a majority of our history, because each time a crop is harvested it leaves better and better soil for the next crop to be grown and harvested in. However... when industrialization took the agriculture industry by storm and year-round demand for certain crops increased, a lot of growers stopped rotating crops all together and focused their entire operations on one crop specifically as opposed to several in a year, which is called mono-culturing. From a business perspective this may seem like it makes sense, as you'd want to grow, sell, and specialize in whatever crop is in highest demand or at highest market price, but what happens from an agriculture perspective is actually counter-intuitive. When you make one field grow the same crop over and over again you're putting too many nutrients from one kind of crop in the soil while starving it of nutrients from other sources or kinds of produce... so gradually, over time, the fertility of the field (which is its ability to grow large yields of crops) diminishes, as does the natural flavors of produce grown in those fields, which often leads to a more bland tasting product. This is why many people complain about GMO produce not being as flavorful as "organic", because GMO crops and monocultures are the predominant choice for corporate growing companies who specialize in one or two products on a massive scale, companies like the Dole Pineapple company for example.
I don't think just switching crops works. I mean theyre all plants needing the same nutrients. What makes the difference is type or size of the root. People here (i live near farmland and we dont use pesticides) usually make a break year where they just plant clovers or smth that doesn't really bring any value, thus wasting valuable land that could've been used for growing crops. It just makes farming more inefficient which causes deforestation cause u need more land
Red Hiding Hood see, you have gotten a fact wrong. they leave nutrition in the soil behind. and plants need different amounts of different resources. and that can make a huge difference as if you plant only one type of crop. that will drain one type of nutrients and leave one other type. and that can a huge disbenifit to trying to grow them again, and clovers are not picky and leave behind essential nutrients. and you didnt explain how the size of the root helps/doesnt and the type of the root absolutely does not matter in any way, shape, or form. plus the nutrition from planting clovers helps the crops taste better. and that means better sales and reputation in the growing industry. therefore your entire point is off
@@mr.beanman9816 theyre all plant so idk how can they need diff nutrients and for the roots planting just small roots can create more erosion of the soil where as tree roots keep the soil in place and can reach nutrients that are lower in the ground. But planting trees inside wheat fields is impractical so yeah.. And what reputation? Sales? Its not about making money its about using the least ammount of land to produce the most ammount of crops so we slow deforestation and climate change. GMOs are much more efficient and artificial fertilizers when regulated well can be extremely helpful with much less disadvantages than natural ones.
Red Hiding Hood how would they not? there biological structure is much different and uses different nutrients and how do you think that switching crops is bad even though it reaches better nutritional content and brings it up 😂. you are laughable dude, and i agree that deforestation is terrible but if you plant as much as you can in a small area. it produces more greenhouse gas and is worse for your health. So therefore. bing bong your opinion is wrong. and if you think smaller space is better for animals then you are a bad human
I think a lot of the stigma originated with “organic” being seen as synonymous with “healthy” while GMO is seen as artificial, and therefore toxic and/or harmful, when that isn’t necessarily the case.
What isn't addressed is the additional resources (land area, manpower, cost) that is required for "organic" production. If 100% of all world-wide food production abandoned GMO, antibiotics, pesticides, fertilizers, and such, the production of food would fall dramatically and the poor would starve.
@@earthwormscrawl they already starve while we produce enough food. Some chemicals are also highly polluting and damage the land they are used on. I don't say organic is THE solution, but it has advantages too, especially if you want something tasty (basic fruits and vegetables from supermarkets are pretty terrible)
Humans have been genetically modifying organisms for thousands of years. It's the main reason why we're the dominant species, we learned how to farm crops and make them produce higher yield through selective breeding.
@Ephraim Bane We have not been "genetically modifying organisms" for thousands of years. I'm sure you know that "GMOs" refers to artificially altering a species' DNA through laboratory techniques that do not happen naturally i.e. genetic engineering, not selective breeding i.e. evolution. The long-term safety of selective breeding has been undeniably proven while there are still unknowns regarding GMOs, not only their effect on human health but also their effect on wildlife and the surrounding environment, both direct and indirect, such as GMOs that are modified to be used with a specific pesticide that's more dangerous than other pesticides. More research is needed. Saying that selective breeding is the same thing as GMOs is like saying that CRISPR designer babies are no different than conceiving kids naturally because we've been "genetically modifying" humans for millions of years by selectively choosing our partners.
This is crazy relevant to my day. I work at a grocery store and we were having a conversation about "organic" foods (I was arguing there's little to no difference between the two). My customer argued "Well there's fewer GMO ingredients". I asked "What does GMO stand for?" The both of us went silent and I have a feeling that customer won't be coming back... >~>
Well if she does come back you can show her this video and she can see that she's largely wasting her money. I've learned a lot about this subject by watching this and have made the decision that I won't be paying extra for organic at all now as it's really a marketing ploy. It appears that the health and environmental benefits are negligible if non existent so I'll be sticking to regular fruit and veg from now on!
All dogs are a GMO, its my favorite way of poking fun at anti GMO fanatics. I also love pointing out how Banana's are a GMO by nature, as the only edible ones are genetically created to be sterile and incapable of reproducing. But they can claim its organic and non GMO because their splicing is done in the shed out back with little scientific oversight, apparently doing scientific research on the subject of genetics suddenly goes too far.
Sherrif it’s quite interesting as the first bananas had lots of large seeds in them, they were small and had a green hard skin. And then through selection of better yield from certain specimens -basically more organic modifying of an organism- they became the current product we see today
@Mountain Rider Uh. I dunno if you've ever been in a grocery store, but the markup for organic foods is often 100% or more. Cheerios and other cereals are horribly unhealthy. Glysophate is not harmful at the incredibly small amounts required by regulatory agencies in Europe and North America.
@@lameduck1690 And often Whole Foods will have organic strawberries at much cheaper prices than conventional strawberries. You just need to keep your eyes open for a thing called "sales". It's when prices go down for a short time.
@@olive4naito The smartest thing to do would be to buy the less attractive looking strawberries at a farmer's market if you want a good price, but generally people without money to spare don't shop at Whole Foods or farmer's markets. The markup for simply shopping there is pretty high.
You forgot to mention that, from a consumer's perspective, it's impossible to distinguish organic from non-organic food. You could be simply paying more money for the same food, which is organic only in its labeling.
Ive a friend who's farm is organic in every metric required, but her farm is not large enough to justify paying the several thousand dollars a year to get it certified. Most only get it for marketing and to charge more for the produce they already made. It's very silly.
@@manicasion736 He did mention the possibility of fraud from producers, but not the fact that it's impossible to know for sure if you're buying organic or not. This is not something you can solve with regulation.
I discovered organic food by mistake. I bought a organic not knowing it was organic Apple …. Could not believe how much better it was. I made the switch and since than the flavor and quality in organic food, is so much better. Also this isn’t a good video to watch about organic food. The German DW does a much better job testing the food and has better information. I would t be surprised if this is made by someone who benefits from non organic.
@@oakjim206 buying seasonal and local is about as anti monsanto as you can get. as a fan of organic farming methods, i thought this video was incredibly fair. we should always be striving to make all parts of life better. updating sound old methods with sound new ones is just plain smart!
*In 'Murica, We Sell Cheap, Processed, Crappy Food For Low Class People for lower Prices While The Higher Class Eat Healthy and More Naturally for Higher Prices.*
@@poo655622 you can't even tell the difference so what is the point of labelling anything as 'organic'. EVERYTHING we eat is 'organic' as in carbon-based :)
my (partial) solution to this problem is to grow my own vegetable garden. I have about 100 square feet that I grow an entire summer's worth of meals in, and I'm thinking of replacing some ornamental trees with apple trees in the near future.
Sorry I know this is irrelevant but I think it would be great if we replaced ALL of the ornamental trees with fruit trees. At least in big cities, it would feed the poor and homeless everywhere...
There is no guarantee that this is actually better though. Possibly the resources put in to the garden would have a greater environmental benefit if used to say ... donate to climate change and energy research. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it though. I recon it makes you happy and that is also worth spending resources on.
Question though: How the hell can a summers worth of meals be grown in a roughly 100 ft^2? Surely 10ft by 10ft or 3m by 3m is no where near a summers worth of meals.
I wish people would stop growing so much grass in their yard and instead grew food for humans. All that grass is mostly useless at best and a huge waste at worst.
@@heinenrby7600 Slight exaggeration on my part; I grow almost all the fruits and all of the vegetables I eat for about a third of the year. I still buy flour/bread/such, meat, most herbs, and citrus products throughout the year. Some of my plants--notably tomatoes--will produce fruit from May well into November. Every year I grow more than my own weight in produce.
@Miles Doyle I don't think meth is the right medication for you. Maintain your medication schedule rigorously. Incidentally, your 'prophesies' are a type of con called cold reading, very useful for priests, psychics, mediums, and other assorted frauds and charlatans.
From what I've gathered after looking heavily into this for the past many months. In general yeah, Organic doesn't matter much. But there are some specifics where they matter a lot. This video doesn't touch on animal products, which is one of the few areas where organic actually means the most. There are some specifics fruits and veggies that benefit a lot too, but most of them are a toss up, or don't really matter at all. But I would say: look into the Argentinian soy problem. Pesticides may not do a ton to those who eat the food it was put on, they usually clean that food. but those pesticides get into the air and water supply, and the local people around them suffer because of it. Still an excellent video, to cover every specific would take hours.
Remember how in the video it said that organic farming is actually worse for the environment. “Organic” pesticides are worse, requiring farmers to use more, which puts more in the soil. 🙄
@@j.tizzyy No, the video claimed that "organic" pesticides CAN be worse, it depends on the specific pesticide being used, and the video did also imply that organic food uses less pesticides.
There is simply not enough farmland to produce food for the world if everyone eats organic (fruits/veggies). "GMO"s *literally* help solve world hunger. I'll stick to my perfectly healthy GMOs, thank you very much.
@@ragestuffin Kots is something else and is written kotz (Kotze, kotzen), meaning vomit(ing). Like: ich kotz gleich - I will vomit soon. You need to spell it with an u followed by an r an then ts, not ots
Nice and objective, just how I like it! I wouldn't go so far as to call Organic a scam, but it definitely is taking advantage of idiots that see organic and without a second thought think it's somehow better. The simple fact that it requires more land is enough to outweigh the benefits of using less energy, since we can use alternative energy sources, but the more land is needed the more of it is lost for other crops and especially forests. The only real benefit of organic vs normal is the crop cycling, and conventional farming would benefit from that as well. Also - people need to stop being ignorant about GMOs. From a technical standpoint, pretty much every strawberry is a GMO. Every mule is a GMO. Every mongrel is a GMO. Genetically Modified Organisms are made by mixing genes of different species to achieve an offspring with certain qualities. In case of a mule, for example, it's done by breeding a male donkey with a female horse. In case of modern, common understanding of GMO it's done by selectively transferring certain genes directly. GMO's are great to increase crop production, reduce the usage of pesticides, reduce the energy requirements, increase nutritional value, and so on.
Taking advantages of someone is quite literally a scam, just because it's not as harmful as bigger scams doesn't make it exempt for the title. I agree with the crop cycling, even farmers would gain from that long-term since they wouldn't have to buy as much fertilizers.
@@Chronically_ChiII Technically you're right about what qualifies as a scam, but at the same time you'd have to consider all Apple products scams, you'd have to consider most premium car manufacturers as scams, you'd have to consider a lot of designer clothing companies scams, you'd basically have to consider pretty much every product where you pay extra for the brand a scam. You can do it, but is it worth it? You'd water down the meaning of that word pretty quickly.
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this for years. Did a paper on it in college. It’s all marketing. However- we can all agree that Monsanto was one of the most evil fucking companies on the planet. But yes, buy local, buy seasonal ❤️.
We have no idea yet if it really makes a difference. So many conventional pesticides haven't been around long enough to know the long term effects. These companies have trained to think they are doing us a favor by Not Sprinkling Chemicals on our FOOD
I disagree about Monsanto. Monsanto, just like all companies, are driven by economics and politics. That is how we have structured the system, and the structure leads to certain almost unavoidable results. Therefore, like all giant multinational companies, Monsanto has done some shitty things. That is inevitable. However, they're not special and they also do a lot of good. For example, they give tens of millions of dollars to charity every year, not to mention that their products (which have made them one of the largest agricultural companies for a reason) are very useful and preferred by the people who buy them. Again, clearly not perfect like every other company- but also not even close to being "one of the most evil fucking companies on the planet". I'd reserve that title to companies that deal with pseudoscience/alternative medicine and scams like amway.
@GhostFZ 62 The label is European and no longer particular to a country, so every country has the same standards. Minerals are never classified as being organic, though you can still buy it in organic shops. If you do find salt that claims to be organic it most likely isn't the oficial logo, not only it is tied to the government and so heavily controled, you have to pay for it.
I worked in a strawberry pathology lab (studying strawberry diseases), and we had to visit many nearby strawberry farms, including one ginormous organic strawberry farm. Visiting that farm was always disappointing because it had hundreds of acres of tiny little strawberry plants that were half dead or not even producing a single strawberry all season long. On top of that, farmers in that region use plastic sheets as a mulch to prevent weeds from growing. So, what you would see is hundreds of acres of plastic lining long mounds of tiny little strawberry plants that were completely useless. At the end of the season, farmers take all that plastic, throw it into a pile and burn it. It is an extremely costly and intensive system all to produce “organic” strawberries that were tiny and tasted really bad. Not all organic production systems are like this - and a lot of new research is coming out to improve them - but I wanted share a personal experience with an organic farm that I had to visit many times. If you wanna eat better produce, try to find local fruits or vegetables, because smaller farmers are able to care more for their crops. They also tend to harvest the crops riper (more nutrients) than the ones you see in large groceries, because they don’t have to ship them across entire continents.
I grew up on my family dairy farm, we switched over to organic not because we believed in it but because of money! The farm’s profites have more than tripled since the switch. As long as there are skeptics out there, we will continue to profit off them.
Organic is almost meaningless because there is no official definition. We need established standards for organic goods so that the label isn’t just feel good marketing jargon.
This is basically the continuum fallacy. Just because there is no universally accepted definition doesn't mean that there is no use for organic products. The vagueness surrounding the word doesn't make the word invalid. There are plenty of words in the scientific community that have no official, 100% accepted definition. "Species" has no real 100% accepted official definition, that doesn't mean that the concept of "species" is totally useless.
It seems as tho organic is just a method of price discrimination to increase profits. A way for Supermarkets to sieve out the customers who are more willing to pay slightly more
@@aaronsoto1346 That's interesting! I did mean more from a supermarket's perspective than producer tho. Coffee places do it a lot, pay 10p more for fair-trade coffee when it only costs them 2p more to produce etc. A way of making more money from those who are willing to pay more by slightly differentiating the product
This video might as well be sponsored by big agricultural companies just to lead people away from organic and family markets. This video has only one intention, to show that organic isn't better than conventional foods. But here are facts: There are thousands of different antioxidants and there are thousands of studies that prove the benefits of them on human body, remember that Vitamins C and E are antioxidants as well and also chemicals like l-theanine and anthocyanins, and this guy is telling that there is no proof. Wtf? There are hundreds of studies proving link between conventional pesticides and herbicides and cancer, infertility and other serious diseases. Also herbicides are killing bee population like plague and there are a very large concern in the world about pollinators. And conventional agriculture methods are ones which are depleting ground from any nutrients, they just grow one kind of crop one year after another depleting all the minerals from ground. But organic farmers use methods like rotating, using manure, lime to keep ground healthy and we have farmed like that for thousands of years and never had faced problems with ground depletion but since conventional farming suddenly ground depletion is a problem. Funny heh? There are also a lot of different and smaller aspects but this is already too long. And my parents are big scale farmers so I know my shit. So yeah. I'm unsubbing this channel and suggesting you to do the same.
Toms Tukmanis you have already made up your mind about being pro organic which makes any evidence to the contrary false in your eyes. It’s the exact same with climate change deniers. Your response is based on some good points mixed with ignorance, conjecture and anecdotal evidence. A lot of the big farms do both organic and conventional farming. And they do rotate crops to keep the nutrients from being depleted in both ways. You come off as a crazy conspiracy science denier and why the hell would anybody reading your response look at it and think, “wow, this is a reasonable guy.”
@Nexatronic also if he presented one of the two as infallible and as the perfect solution to all problems, I would suspect that he was biased. Not like you can form an opinion just based on a 9 min. video, but still, it doesn't immediately make you go "mmm feels like bs".
@Nexatronic they used both extremes in the video such as proof and near the end they reccomended using a mixture of both to get the best of both extremes
I found that there is a huge difference in organic chicken and non organic, you can taste and smell the difference. However, there are lots of scams on the 'organic' label for products.
I work in the horticulture industry, most of my career as a spray operator and we use both organic and conventional sprays and I can confirm that some organic ones are worse. I’ve always said we need to aim for sustainable cropping. Also the land usage thing wouldn’t be a big deal if we all ate fruit and mostly vegetables and very little meat. Meat production is extremely inefficient, compared to vegetable production. The best thing to do would be to grow your own, but the human race is probably way too urbanised now.
Sad but true at least in some areas. Urban Gardening gains more traction each year, because of my studies at university I have to live in a city but that doesn't stop me from growing plants on my balcony and in my room :D Maybe I am biased because many of my friends are starting to do the same but I really think this gets more popular with every passing year, just like veganism does for example.
Another thing that gets in the way of growing your own food in a city : most people think you can just grow whatever on balconies and rooftops, but many older buildings can't take the weight of the soil, the plant and their retained water and would risk collapsing. Although I think new buildings could be designed with that in mind, if people were to actively ask for it. :)
@@user-dl3vn8ze9n well the best way to gain weight are carbohydrates which you find mainly in plant based foods like pasta, potatos etc. Also it isn't very hard to get good plant based fats as well. Avocados, Nuts, Rapeseed oil...
༺ȻʘƦƔƗƝ༻ I really don’t think going pure vegan is our natural diet. A healthy, omnivorous mix of both vegetables, grains & animal products is the way to go. Be it meat or just eggs / dairy. At least when you’re vegetarian your having some animal based proteins and fats.
I think we like the idea of organic, but at the moment the high demand for extra land, deforestation, cheap labour, supply chain issues and exorbitant prices means that 'organic ' food production still has a lot of problems to solve. Seasonal eating and supporting local growers would definately be a good habit for all of us to learn.
Well, pesticides are one of the main contributors of deforestation due to the killing soil microbes… Organic is still better for the planet in the long run.
The thing is, a lot of regions where human population is concentrated do not have suitable seasons to grow crops and arable land. There is a gap between ideal places for human living and the ideal places for farming. Look at the recent news of tomato shortage in the UK. People in the UK want tomatoes but tomatoes are ideally grown in warmer climate like Spain or North Africa. If they are to eat seasonally and locally, they would be left with turnips.
@@notjacobwilliams8311 As badly as Sprouts treats its employees, the employees "go insane" anyway. Hence Sprouts' 98% turnover rate. (Turnover rate = what percentage of employees are not there one year after hire date?)
@Uncle Jericho Wants YOU!!! Yeah but unlike those, the american medias and most of the idiots there took PC culture to ridiculously high levels of idiocy. I mean, calling black people "people of color" may sound a bit dumb, but actively harassing those who don't do it is just plunging rockbottom further down.
I mean this was very Euro/American-centric. I live in Argentina and most regular produce is really bad quality; frozen for long periods of time and is produced in large farms where there is a lot of pesticide and fertilizer runoff polluting rivers and lakes. Documented cases of cancer in nearby villages and huge amounts of deforestation coupled with monoculture have devastated rural communities and ecosystems. Small organic farms tend to be more focused on the well being of the consumer and being in contact with the growing process. I can clearly TASTE the difference between supermarket bought produce and local market bought. I agree the fight shouldn't be between two sides but about the specifics of the production process and the regulation. People should be better informed about the agricultural and industrial sectors do in their production processes.
Yes that’s what I thought of halfway through this video. The food industry in the Global South is much less accountable and Kurzgesagt being apolitical here is actually damaging and dangerous. Geography changes the debate massively, and simplifying the arguments like this only helps developed countries.
As someone who has been plant based for 19 years this was great because I was frankly clueless. I never understood what organic meant other than assuming it was a marketing scam so I've never bought into it. Glad to know I haven't been making a mistake all this time per sae.
@@SublimeGemini From what I can see from a quick look phosphates are generally found in meats, fish, nuts, beans, and dairy. This means that meat organic or not is going to have phosphates, therefore I think you are incorrect in your assumption?
@@xCriticalStrikex I’m sorry I think it autocorrected what I was saying, I meant to say glyphosate. Glyphosate is the main compound in roundup. The food absorbs it and we eat it. Organic means no round up. It’s not a scam, a lot of people do not want that in their body and rightfully so. “Inorganic” has only been a thing since the late 60’s and farmers started using it in the 70’s. We’ve been farming organic for thousands of years there’s no reason to use glyphosate other than it’s cheap and companies just want to make as much money as they can. They don’t care about your health, that’s why there’s such a debate about organic. It’s propaganda big corporation farms pushing “inorganic” and makes organic seem like it’s crazy.
You got fooled. Organic still uses less pesticides, pesticides that don't kill microbiome and every living insect in a radius of a lightyear, including the extreme extiction of bees due to synthetic substances. Also no overuse of synthetic fertilizers (another issue because production is very co2 heavy and again destroys rainforests) that end up in rivers and drinking water.
Hmm, whom to believe? Random TH-cam commenters or a TH-cam video with sources referred to thoughout, from a channel with a diligent team of fact-checkers?
More than this. In my country, where many bananas are farmed, the companies pay the certifier to get the "organic" certification. Meanwhile they still use pesticides and chemicals. Aside from the explotation of the workers.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Well yeah, all Bananas are sterile. We just break off a specific stem to grow a new banana tree. They aren't genetically modified itself, but without humans. Banana trees will either be way fewer numbers or be extinct.
Bananas are also partly the product of Atomic Gardening in the 50s, when we'd plant various species near a radiation source to induce mutations and keep the desirable ones. A huge number of "organic" plants have deliberate gene mutations in their history. That's not counting the extremely slow assisted natural selection methods we've been doing since we start farming. The only thing that's changed is how fast and how precise our edits have become.
I would be very interesting if there was information about how the microbiology is affected by organic vs conventional farming. How does the small ecosystems in our fields and plantations get affected and pollinators, insects and so on.
Your head's in the right place, kudos vippen. Soil health is essential. There are more organisms in one shovelful of healthy soil than the number of humans living right now. These microorganisms are crucial for clean food, air, water and medicine. It doesn't get more foolish than to destroy them.
I agree, I noticed it was left out completely. I guess an issue with only using scientific papers as evidence is, if there are no studies on it, then it doesn't become part of the discussion, and for a lot of these topics, we just haven't research it enough. Either that, or the video would have been too long.
Right. That ecosystem is affected by farming in general. Conventional or otherwise. Its more to do with the types of crops we grow on a land and how frequently we do it. Crop rotation is generally a good practice, crops don't have to be organic for it. And ig you want to change something in your diet to improve the environment: BUY LOCAL AND BUY SEASONAL
Workers must follow REI's whether they are spraying pesticides on an organic field or a non-organic crop. Follow the law which means follow the label and the REI's and everyone is gold.
A variety of crops grown in a variety of methods best suited to the local environment with well-priced externalities like greenhouse gas emissions, ecological toxicity, and genetic diversity factored into the selection are the future!
I live in Mexico. And thanks to the need from Avocados from here. Prices skyrocketed, 1 kilo (which is what he handle) was really expensive. It makes me wonder. Are people actually concerned about health? And the environment? Or do they just want to look good? Why is No Gluten food a thing? How is it that for years no one had problems with Gluten.
@@forzaflash What's expensive though? Expensive by Mexican standards? Expensive by US standards? I honestly feel for the rest of the world when the US gets into crazy food crazes I mean quinoa? That used to be a major staple food in Peru didn't it? But oh no, we like it up here, are willing to spend probably 10x the cost for it versus local, so it gets sent here so farmers can make a bunch of money and locals largely get shat on. As to the gluten thing, part of it is again fad diets where we find one or two studies that says gluten does this or that and we grip onto those, ignoring the fact people have been eating gluten for a while. There's also an allergy aspect too, but it's kind of like peanuts, no one had a peanut allergy 30 years ago, then it started growing, and growing and now every other kid is allergic to peanuts. Personally I think there is something scarier at work here, and it might just be our fear of it has doctors giving advice to stay away from it, and as a result your body doesn't get used to the proteins and when they eventually do your body thinks it's something dangerous.
@Danny Dircio well 10% is actually a lot if that percentage is true. That's one 1 of every 10 people. So it makes sense to mark the food as "gluten free" or Non GMO. I always read labels. I spicifically stay away from things with high fructose corn syrup, which is one of the main causes of health issues in the US.
I think that the main issue with conventional farming vs organic farming is the degenerative effect the wide-spread pesticide use & lack of soil health that is prominent within conventional farming. Conventional farming is "bad" because it over-emphasizes huge crop yields rather than maintaining soil health, this is the reason farmers need to pump so much fertilizer and pesticides into their farmland. We rip all of the nutrients out of the soil and never give it a chance to regenerate; ways to alleviate this would be by properly utilizing crop covers, more strategic crop rotations, and minimizing monocultures. It's also important to note that not having enough food is hardly the reason there is a global hunger crisis. Worldwide nearly 1/3 of all food is wasted due to consumerism, ineffective packaging, and cosumer waste; thats nearly 1.3 billion tons. I think the problem should be less about making more food and more about making the food process more effecient to where it benefits more people. Also, degraded soil health leads to more runoff, and in turn, more runoff of particulates and pesticides into our waterways; which is a whole host of different problems.
MRW I read a food label that says it's "organic": "Oh, you mean to tell me that this product is made from matter containing carbon-based chemical compounds? Gee, thanks for specifying that!"
I think about the movie the Dictator when they ask him what's in his bag and he has some kind of drink that has the potassium of 3 bananas. They he pulls out 3 actual bananas and they ask him why and he says because you can't trust the marketing 😂😂😂
the best way to get seasonal fruit is to grow it yourself really, I grew pumpkins on my own, sure. It took a bit of work but I got some good exercise and some good veggies, also parsley and other herbs. Also growing strawberries but they haven't produced anything yet. I live on a hobby farm so I do have more room to grow stuff but you could still grow things in pots and other stuff. Gardening is fun, and you could spend a little less if you were growing some of your own veggies like lettuce.
Good comparison between organic and conventional food. There is only one thing you forgot: conventional agriculture is more efficent, but in the long term it damages the soil with monocultures, synthetic fertilizers, etc. . Organic agriculture avoids this through for example agroforestry systems, crop rotation, hybridcultures, organic fertilizers, etc. Soil erosion is a very big problem in agriculture and it is very important to maintain the soil fertility. Otherwise we will get a very big problem, because no food will grow anymore. So a sustainable agriculture might be the less efficient one, but it is the one agriculture, which guarantees, that following generations have soil to farm. I think that's a really important information for the decision between organic and conventional food.
@@Szobiz not with the lable "organic", yes, but with organic agriculture like the one of "Demeter" in Germany/Europe and others. There are so many "organic" labels (a whole topic for itself) and to many still allows unsustainable agriculture or even the use of some synthetic pesticides (because of legal loopholes). Therefore it is important to inform about different labels and to chose those, which have strict criteria and support sustainable agriculture (in Germany this would be for example "Demeter", "Bioland", "Naturland"), if you want to buy organic and be sure not to fall for fraudulent labelling.
Hence why I advocate vertical farming with GMO crops (we currently have the tech for both) for our future needs. At least until we can get replicators and nanomachine sorted out , that is.
Another example of captured media. The FDA doesn't TEST anything. They allow manufacturers to provide testing data and slap things as "generally considered safe" willy nilly without any auditing or testing of their own. Saying we shouldn't be concerned about pesticides is the most absurd thing you can say in a video comparing organic and non organic produce.
I used to buy nothing but organic for a few months a few years ago. That is until I tried some local food such as eggs, peaches, and tomatoes. Damn did I realize that I was getting fucked! The local eggs were far richer in the yolk coloring, the taste was splendid, I eat them all the time soft boiled, I can't stand a store bought egg soft, organic or not! The tomatoes and peaches had a far richer taste and more juices. Honestly I can't even tell the difference between organic and not, only my wallet can! Got me 4 chickens, and I now have a huge garden where I grow heavenly food. Organic is nothing but a fad!
8:00 hits the nail on the head. A lot of the time organic produce definitely tastes better, but that is because organic produce is usuall locally sourced, and thus fresher. It hasn`t been put in a freezer and shipped across the country.
As interesting as the thought is, it's also, unfortunately, a blanket statement. The biggest difference between frozen and fresh foods are texture (see how frozen peas are mushier than much fresher "crisp" peas.) I'm sure there are instances of fresh produce tasting better than certain brands of frozen food, but being frozen doesn't affect taste *that much* if at all. In many cases, frozen foods retain more nutrients over time, definitely more than if you were to purchase an identical "fresh" food that had already been sitting out for a day or two in the market. It IS true that if you can get fresh food, in season, it will generally taste better than fresh food that's out of season, though. Something interesting, numerous studies that include blind tasting have been done, and found that in many cases, frozen tastes better than fresh; the most notable ones mentioning seafood, corn, peas, and carrots. Just some notes.
it tastes better because you think it is supposed to. if you can convince yourself that a touch of pesticide brings out the flavor then non organic food will then taste better to you. many taste tests have shown that often the label outside the product matters more to peoples tastes than the actual food does.
@@main135s actually frozen peas are better .many of the natural sugars and vitamins break down quickly in peas so flash frozen usually actually taste better than fresh peas unless you pick them yourselves.
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"Seasonal is the true organic!"
Truer words have never been said!!
@Mince Verlot did you even watch the video? People are way too worried about pesticides when the true environmental impact comes from having to produce more all year long just to maintain 'organic' products. Focusing on seasonal produce reduces the needs thus production of out-of-season products, leading to a far better environmental impact that any organic labels ever could.
@Mince Verlot u r an idiot 🙄 resort to belittling sentence structure and grammar when you realize you know nothing of farming in general, either that or you're just an angry gardener worried ur going to lose CSA's this year 😢
@Mince Verlot the amount of Pesticides in non organic crops is negligible in most cases. Dose make the poison.
There is no real reason for buying organic but being a Esnob one
Mince Verlot Have you ever really looked at scientific data? Or just hit-pieces? You keep dismissing serious concerns and discussions without providing counter-arguments. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion, but I AM disagreeing with the way you present it.
@Mince Verlot
Children eating organic over inorganic removes mental illness?
*looks up high anxiety rates*
Edit: You called bs immediately after watching 2 minutes. You are intellectually lazy like the rest of us. Because most of us probably watched this for our confirmation bias
*Can we appreciate on how they place sponsorship in the back so you aren't interrupted while learning?*
@Bel H Ignorance is a disease. I can agree on that. Such as the fools who continue to deny the impacts of climate change and the disastrous impacts that will come with it. But I quite frankly side with most people who view this channel as highly informative and educational. Of course there’s people that are gonna go on and on that everything they say is bullshit and false. Even if this video was incorrect, that doesn’t condemn every single video they make on this channel to be garbage. Each of their videos shows the effort they put in to make. It takes 1200 hours to make a video. Which I don’t believe is far fetched. Gathering information, sending it to have it looked over by others sources, re writing, recording the narration and animating the video and making music. All that adds up. And don’t throw the “I do x” and I have “x” qualification. How does that relate to the accusations you’re throwing at them?
@Bel H just admit that you’re wrong and can’t handle it dude. i’m sorry that you’re offended by the scientific facts that this video presents, but “facts don’t care about your feelings”, as some would say.
@Bel H lmao i was making fun of all yall that get so pressed about scientific facts :/ chill the fuck out dude you’re the one throwing the tantrum
@Bel H give some sources then maybe we’ll listen
@Bel H somebodies opinions about something they're uneducated about never defines what kind of person they are. thats something to learn about
Marketing 101: It doesn't matter if it's better, they just have to believe that it is - and then they will pay what ever you ask.
Correct, it's all about perception.
I once worked for Campbells/Arnotts and we had a meeting about a new product and they were talking about how it was healthier, I looked at the sugar content and it was as high as soft drink but they were saying because it contained 'natural sugars' it was healthy.
I argued it didn't matter, sugar is sugar.
They didn't like that, I was just supposed to shut my mouth and go along with it, even though I knew better.
Just because I wear the uniform it doesn't mean I can't call out bullshit when you're trying to feed it to me.
Welcome to the world. Where you can’t trust anything said by corporate.
It worked for Apple and Starbucks.
You have read not a single study have you? This is shite video with many falsities
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Natural sugar is actually healthier though. That's why shit like raisins aren't awful for you, despite having insane amounts of sugar. Most likely still not healthy though, and i'm not expert.
My biggest problem with "organic" is that plenty of things that claim to be organic aren't, which is blatant false advertising but yet the brands aren't held accountable for it at all. And that's even before you get into the murky consensus of what is and isn't organic.
Whats an example of this? Or how do you find out which is and isnt true
@@GooseCeeidk how you know
Quick answer, read labels or least visit their website.
Certains certifications cannot be made up (at least in EU). U look them up the rules and then u decide
As a farmer it's refreshing to see an honest look at this topic instead of something loaded with all of the popular BS that typically goes along with anything organic.
What do you farm? You got me interested.
@@dylanger1015 Citrus. Juice oranges, grapefruit, lemons.
@@flatbg1 cool!
No till methods don’t release carbon into the air for example? What other bs?
Mountain Rider
Somebody clearly didn’t watch the video. Also, it seems to me that organic food only fuels your superiority complex, not your diet.
i imagine that all your videos are made by a bird just furiously stomping on a button
He IS the bird stomping on the button
@@neptune.2566 you mean Kurzgesagt is cute and still a little kiddo? Aww man
@@SKtheMage ikr
@@neptune.2566 lol
That must be a really smart bird then.
The solution of this video happens to be the solution to every problem ever. Explore all possibilities and compromise. Ideas don’t have to fight each other. They often can add to one another.
That and remembering the *hard facts* of a situation.
Have you ever tasted a tomato that was home grown? After you eat one of those, a regulat supermarket tomato is like a 3d printed imitation with a poor excuse of a taste in comparison. If conventional can get to the necessary level and actually produce material that doesn't taste like plastic, this discussion wouldn't even be necessary, as we can wash our veggies, effectively destroying the pesticide problem. I'd say, swap synthetic fertilisers with compost and all will be gucci.
@@Hr1s7i have you even watched the video? They clearly say that organic doesn’t use synthetic pesticide, so at the end of the day, organic is already doing what you said.
(By the way… I can’t believe you just used gucci…)
@@Didagg The video didn't say that.
@@Hr1s7i Organic, conventional, home grown or in test tube, compost or synthetic fertiliser, none of that makes any difference to the taste of a tomato if it's picked too early. Commercially grown tomatoes, no matter how they're farmed, are picked before they are ripe so they will survive long transportation and storage. They ripen in transit, but no longer being attached to the plant, they don't receive all the sugars and nutrients that make it taste great. Grow it at home, or buy locally grown, and that problem is eliminated, the tomatoes can be picked when they're properly ripe, have received all the sugars and nutrients from the plant at the end of ripening, and will taste fantastic.
An important detail that's missed is that soil isn't just dead matter, it's full of fungus. Healthy soil requires a connection to these deeper mycelial networks in order to access the full range of nutrients. It could be that our farming techniques sever this connection and prevent the soil from replenishing.
If we solve this issue, we could get more nutrition with less food.
Folic acid content on top of that..
Poly culture the process, and now you get more nutrition and more food
I came down looking for this comment. ✊🏻 impact on the soil is a big and important missing part in this video.
@@thegreenroomorganic yes!
exactly. I used to date a horticulturist and she said the same thing. Now each year I replenish my garden soil with compost to ensure more nutrients. They need to do a better job to give the soil all the minerals and bacteria it needs. Growing vegetable on low nutrient soil...organic or not...will have an impact on your crops nutrients and taste.
I just came to hear the cool voice kurzgesagt man say “organic”
“Cool voice kurgesagt man”
Why was this the first comment I saw
@@kemisolaakk cuz the guy is ur moms friends fathers friends daughters son and ur friend
@@urdadafra9189 And kemi is your cousin
@@supermobiletf nyehhh
"Seasonal is the true organic." Why do I feel like this should have been a bigger part of the video - if not a significant portion?
yet everything is genetically modified in some way.
@404 Limit Pesticides already have been proven in this video to be a non-health issue, due to regulations keeping their levels in check. Besides, there are much more prominent concerns, like fungi and bacteria. Secondly, you are taking that "Seasonal is the true organic" bit out of context. The narrator meant eating vegetables in season is most certainly eco-friendly. Though, I wish more is to be said on that particular claim.
Lance Wang lol proven, by this video? Do you understand what the word proven, means?
@@apieinthesky "Pesticides already have been proven in this video to be a non-health issue, due to regulations keeping their levels in check." IS THE MOST IDIOTIC thing i've read today. Believe 404 Limit: there is a skull on every bottle of liquid that is sprayed on your food my dear.
Because this video is there to inform you, not to tell you what to do.
Please make avocado man a recurring character
My life cannot go on without him
Holly Shi* it's a mallerien.
Tell me are you vegan as well?
Bacon is so yummy wummy in my tummy eat meat meat meat
Jesus these toxic fucks in the comments! Anyways, yes I also like the avacado man
@@TheyCallMeTheMonth Im pretty sure xseth1 isnt even a vegan so you just said that for no reason. Which makes you look really awkward.
He's not the hero the supermarket asked for.
But he's the hero the supermarket needs...
A discussion on Regenerative agriculture would be very interesting to see how it compares with conventional and organic agriculture.
It cant keep up. There simply isnt enough land for it. All land that can be easily used for farming already is. Most of whats left is either national reserves or rocky ground that dont produce crops without significant terraforming. The figures are a bit outdated, but some poeple calculated how much we could produce on regenerative basis and it would be enough to feed around 500 million people in the world. There are currently more than 7000 million. Without conventional farming most of us would starve.
@Strazdas Everything you've stated is categorically wrong. Not all land is being used, "conventional" farming only started in the 1930s when there were already 2 billion people on the planet. "Conventional" isn't sustainable because the soil nutrients is declining over time and if we continue the current trends, the soil will be completely dead by 2080 so regenerative is the Only long term solution because it focuses on the soil health which also in turn increases the nutrients of the plants
@@jackdanielson1997 Conventional farming started in the 15th century when we invented crop rotation.
We are using pretty much all land that is easily arable. Whats left is either a) forests, b) rocky land not good for agriculture or c) national parks. We could kill the C option and expand the cropland a bit but i doubt we will.
Regenerative farming cannot sustain more than a billion people on the planet. Good luck convincing the other 6 billion they need to die.
@@jackdanielson1997 what about fertilizers?
@@deri1942 Good question! Yes, farms definitely need fertilizer. Manufactured fertilizers won't be around forever, unfortunately. Phosporous mines will run out in 50-100 years, and phosporous runoff into waterways isn't recoverable (yet...maybe someone will find out how to do it). Using farm animal manure instead for fertilizer (by purchasing manure or having more mixed-use farms) would solve the fertilizer problem.
Ok but the avocado in the thumbnail was so cute
I think the eggplant is cuter tbh
I want that avocado as my next tattoo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
yay dood
The left is hot.
Right, right! I meant right!
Tewi The BunBun true
I love the “seasonal is most organic” part, it’s not only best for the production, it’s also best for you, having varieties in life!
But some regions are always or mostly winter. Only small parts of the earth have different seasons.
@@abcd-kz9vw for real, here in canada for example, buying seasonal would just mean starving to death lol
ok but if you live in the Caribbean where its basically summer all year there's no variety 😭😭 and I love grapes so much
It's best for your community and region as well.
@@kimaya.3563wdym there’s plenty of fruit in the carribean
Organic = less efficient. With earth's population expected to rise to 11 billion, should we really be promoting something that uses more land and produces less food? This seems so counter-intuitive.
*-that’s how capitalism works-*
Thats how mafia works.
Agree, it's stupid fashion, farms have to be efficient with keeping nutricious and health standards for us
The plus side is we probably will never have more than around 12 billion people on earth at any time.
We already produce enough food to feed the world, but a lot is thrown away or fed to livestock. A UN report found that we could feed the world with organic food.
The symptoms that bugs have (neurological damage) when dying of pesticides are also some of the symptoms of dementia and Parkinson's. In many instances, the bug's nervous system is so disrupted that its motor skills begin to get violently shakey, and the autonomic system that keeps it breathing and other systems alive shut down. KEEP in mind that washing grapes (or anything) doesn't "completely" help with the use of pesticides. ** When pesticides are used, they eventually are rained or watered into the soil that the plant ROOTs drink from. The plant grows from what comes up out of the soil into the roots, into the plant, and into the food it produces. ** Think of it this way - - Put a white daisy into the water with green / red / OR blue food color....IN a few days the white daisy has become another color. Having nothing sprayed on it -- It has pulled up what was in the moisture in the soil - - OR in this case, just from the water.
Me: I ate 5 tubs of ice cream
Friend: so un healthy
Me:it's organic
Friend: you legend
All natural too.
Edwinradcliff Alabas my friends would’ve called me fat and unhealthy lmao
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Oh my god 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁 thank you sooooo much!! I haven't laughed so hard in months🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 can you reply? I just think your awsome🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@happystar7000 dude chill out
A video a month and still not 10 mins just to squeeze out more ads. Much respect 🙏
I think why they did that is because... stretching the animations to 10 mins+ is much harder... and the extra ad revenue will probably not be worth it at that point
Taqi I haven’t gotten a single ad on TH-cam in YEARS. TH-cam premium is so worth buying
Ever seen a kurzgesagt video with ads?
They dont monetise them, that's why
Also technically it's two videos a month since they produce for their german channel with the same team
They also get money from the german government, because they are part of "Funk", an online network of the german public broadcast.
This channel earned ten of thousands of dollars a month through Patreon, so ads are unnecessary. If viewers contributed more to their favorite channel, there'll be less incentive for the creators to place the ad.
Witch gives apple to Snow White
Snow White eats it without any problems
Witch Gasses Snow White
Snow White 2019 edition
It subverted our expectations.
*Hitler wants to know your location*
“ What is the carbs in this? I need to count it for my Keto diet.”
prince will be poisoned if kissed tho
*looks at Witch*
Whos mans is this?
So happy that I found this page. Thanks for helping me understand this organic v conventional food debate. Great stuff!
So you just believe this channel vs others with different claims why?
I refreshed my subscriptions just in time
I grow both organic and conventional. Farmers grow what the market wants! Educating consumers on the difference is a massive challenge that most farmers would rather avoid. Organic also sells for more so farmers have an incentive to grow organically to make more money! Thank you for the awesome video!!!
Yeah but organic is still a pain compared to conventional though. Take oats for example.
I wounder where antibiotics fit into the organic vs conventional argument. If there is antibiotics in my meat than that scares me. How can we limit use of antibiotics?
@Yoshiyahoo By eating less meat overall.
@yoshiyahoo Antibiotics are not fed to animals that are certified organic at least in the United States.
Do farmers actually make more on organic crops? I thought all of the extra profit was lost on lower yields and grubby packaging companies.
I’ve been to a Dole banana farm in Guatemala before. When we asked why the pesticide plane turned around in a certain area, they responded, “oh those are the organic ones” and I promise, they were getting sprayed indirectly by being in proximity.
Jonathan Bryant Yh unless your country grows bananas, real organic bananas are hard to find...
For banana importing countries, there’s little to no difference between organic and normal bananas :/
@@kuyaleinad4195 there's no such thing as organic bananas ( at least in the countries that don't grow them). All the bananas we eat are clones of the cavendish.
Here's a rule of thumb- if there are seeds in the banana the size of your thumb, it's organic.
If not, it's a genetically modified clone.
There is no such a thing as an organic banana, pesticides or not... Well, there is, but nobody would want to eat that.
Ethan Lam Yeah I knew that XD
But I still see ‘Organic Bananas’ at my local supermarket here in the UK even though they’re cavendish bananas :/
And there are seedless varieties of wild bananas but they’re not really edible
Would be interesting to include analysis of biodiversity, animal welfare and political economy of GMO in the comparison.
On the animal welfare front conventionally farmed plants are clearly better since they use much less manure.
In most of which conventionally farmed plants tend to come out on top.
@@cheer90099 sources?
Wtf is “political economy of gmo”?🤦♂️🤡
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"Most people don't eat enough fruit and veg anyway"
I feel personally attacked.
frostydowns same☹️😂
Don’t be. Nothing inherently required in eating enough fruits and veggies. Especially modern fruit “candy”
Most people in the US also don't eat enough protein so that's a bit funny xD
Try using a blender and just smoothie your fruits in. Since I began ingesting fruit this way it truly feels like a cheat code!
Who cares
3:48
Well people who buy organic stuff tend to eat healthier in general. It makes perfect sense that they have a lower cancer rate overall. It's caused by correlation, not causation; that is, people who eat organic food also eat less hamburgers and more apples, and as a result have less cancer. Not that the organic apples actually help them avoid cancer. Meaning that the study is simply misleading, if you think about it from a logical standpoint.
People who eat organic are wealthier, and poor people get more cancer for a host of reasons beyond just diet.
great point
Yeap. Richer people tend to be more healthier, and since organic cost more, richer people are more likely to buy organic.
And there's a reason why the rich can only get their hands on such >_>
Your logic is impeccable. I salute you good sir. And award you two logics.
If your concern is environmental, buy local. The greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles transporting distant or out of season foodgoods (for many Americans this includes sugar, coffee, chocolate, oranges, seafood) far outweighs the impact on the environment of the foodgoods themselves.
As usual exercise moderation erring on temperance wherever possible.
^^^ THIS!!! ^^^
Something i want to add though. If you can, grow your own veggies and fruits!! You don’t have to even grow them outside if you don’t have the space. Use big tubs and fill them with dirt. You can grow things like herbs, tomatoes, beans, peas, strawberries, blueberries, etc.
Also aeroponics which is growing food out of dirt and spraying the bare roots with water, aka having them suspended in the air.
And there’s hydroponics big towers with tiny pockets of spongey-stuff that the roots are in that cycles the water around in an evaporation cycle.
Both of these have lots of online tutorials on how to make them. But if you don’t feel like making a fancy holder for your plants, just use big tubs with dirt in them.
Oh!! And another plus of growing your own is that it’s cheaper than buying them. Once you get going it’s nice to have a constant supply of veggies and fruits. I recommend growing plants that give more than one yield. Root vegetables also are plantable but give less yield than planting say, peas which grow more pods like every day. And if you can’t put them outside to be pollenated, you can find tutorials to hand pollenate.
buy local AND crops that are in season.
Do you really think organic food is not as impactful to the environment as the pollution from transporting the food
@@pintailee7077 Yes.
@@pintailee7077 It really depends on how extreme you’re thinking. Unsustainable in the short term farming can be really efficient because it’s so lazy while high quality organic can be quite consumptive of resources. It’s worth saying transportation makes up a massive amount of the world’s CO2 emissions; however, your typical commuters make up a tiny amount of that compared to the transport of goods. Agriculture is pretty small compared to transport. Local is better, whichever way you have it, but specific practices are the most efficient while being sustainable that almost nobody uses in conjunction with one another.
You missed out concerns about the people working on the farms I think. My understanding is that often organic certification also includes minimum labour standards that are not necessarily law in the country where the food is produced. With bananas for example, buying Fairtrade or organic means the workers don’t have to handle the conventional chemicals that can severely damage their fertility, because the Fairtrade and organic certifications only allow the safer chemicals.
High school : Level 1 Crook
University : Level 35 Boss
Kurzgesagt : Level 100 Godfather
*_That's how education works_*
xD im still waiting for the memes
I love mafia city memes lmao
cant wait for this meme to die in about 4 minutes
This dude is a genius
@@thecanadianfuhrer8602 only 2 minutes sir we can do it
Organic is a marketing term. Crude oil is 100% organic as it is formed naturally through organic chemistry...
Signs Of Bias
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@@thejay8963 It's a joke...
Scientifically, Organic simply means "has Carbon atoms in its molecules."
Carbon Dioxide not included.
Stop it! Or the oil industry is going to start calling it organic oil! LOL
@@geocyo8835 Well, some scientists HAVE successfully synthesized crude oil in a lab now. And they Hypothesize that it is formed from hyper-compressed organic matter.
Note, they STILL say it takes "millions of years, normally" despite making it in a matter of days in a lab. XD
If we went only organic the real problem would be the avocado prices
I think Del Taco will still have their FRE SHA VOCA DO at the same price
Avocado consumption supports exploitation
@@brokkrep why?
It’s literally two for one avo
@@josias1540 I hlove my FRE SHA VOCA DO
at 4:14, the study actually says: "The hazard index for pesticides for a Danish adult was on level with the hazard quotient for alcohol for a person consuming the equivalent of 1 glass of wine every seventh year".
If school was like this....
I’d go everyday
Me too
Go anyway
Learning is important
Discipline and routine as a good habit, even more important.
@@BirdRaiserE Learning is important but forcing to learning something you don't wonder or want isn't good and school just teaches useless facts
@@katilcivciv6314 Your grammar shows that you need to go to school more.
@@existentialreader5323 and your words shows that you are dumb
Moral of the story is to simply eat more fruits and vegetables rather than worrying if the food you're eating is organic or not.
@MonkFish - "time to start growing my own fruit/vegetables" That's exactly what I was saying in my video!!!
@MonkFish Gunna need a source on that.
You just saved 8 minutes of my life thank you...oops make that 7 now
@@myself2noone _"The glyphosate-based herbicide disrupts aromatase activity and mRNA levels and interacts with the active site of the purified enzyme, but the effects of glyphosate are facilitated by the Roundup formulation in microsomes or in cell culture. We conclude that endocrine and toxic effects of Roundup, not just glyphosate, can be observed in mammals. We suggest that the presence of Roundup adjuvants enhances glyphosate bioavailability and/or bioaccumulation."_
- *Environ Health Perspect. 2005 Jun;113(6):716-20*
@@myself2noone Also, glyphosate usage was 38% of all pesticide use in 2008. It was indeed the MOST prevelant!
- *DOI: 10.2139/ssrn.2502986*
Local + seasonal = real organic
True. This is what people should do if they want to eat ethically.
Yeah people, this.
So basicly saying. If you wanna safe yourself and the world. Don't buy exotic food made in other countries. Stick to local stuff.
But i absolutely hate Sprouts tho :(
Markus Brorson Jajebox!
So eating something from somewhere else is not organic but living there and eating it makes it organic...yep your definition make total sense
Nice video! Regarding meat and dairy products, I think a lot of people buy organic for the animal welfare. Would have been nice to consider that aspect 😊
I never heard of organic food has anything to do with animal welfare.
Can you explain, please?
Isn't it worse though because it uses more land
@@PrivateMcPrivate in Florida if cows aren’t on the land then mass maundactured neighborhood pops up. Here perserving ranch land is preserving the wildlife corridor.
Buy Organic (Small Brain)
Buy Either one since there is not much difference (Big Brain)
Buy Seasonal/Local Produce (Woke)
Growing your own produce the way you want (Ascended)
Not everyone has the luxury of growing their own produce
(Small brain)
Jastin Byeber (No brain - *er* )
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 it's way easier than you think. You can grow your own veggies on your NYC apartment window
Not eating at all (Nirvana)
That's the exact opposite of how that meme works.
GMO vs Organic doesn't really matter from an environmental standpoint, the real problem is with mono-culturing across the agriculture industry as a whole, both organic and non-organic. The extremely high demand for certain foods all year round (corn, tomatoes, strawberries, you name it) results in both farmers and growing companies to plant massive fields of the same crop over and over and over again.
You see, the way farming used to be more commonly practiced is with a methodology called crop rotation. When you plant something in the ground, be it anything from potatoes to pineapples, they take nutrients from the soil (which gives them their flavor) and leaves nutrients behind when they're harvested (which enriches the soil). This is pretty much how all farming of any kind was done for a majority of our history, because each time a crop is harvested it leaves better and better soil for the next crop to be grown and harvested in.
However... when industrialization took the agriculture industry by storm and year-round demand for certain crops increased, a lot of growers stopped rotating crops all together and focused their entire operations on one crop specifically as opposed to several in a year, which is called mono-culturing. From a business perspective this may seem like it makes sense, as you'd want to grow, sell, and specialize in whatever crop is in highest demand or at highest market price, but what happens from an agriculture perspective is actually counter-intuitive. When you make one field grow the same crop over and over again you're putting too many nutrients from one kind of crop in the soil while starving it of nutrients from other sources or kinds of produce... so gradually, over time, the fertility of the field (which is its ability to grow large yields of crops) diminishes, as does the natural flavors of produce grown in those fields, which often leads to a more bland tasting product. This is why many people complain about GMO produce not being as flavorful as "organic", because GMO crops and monocultures are the predominant choice for corporate growing companies who specialize in one or two products on a massive scale, companies like the Dole Pineapple company for example.
I don't think just switching crops works. I mean theyre all plants needing the same nutrients. What makes the difference is type or size of the root. People here (i live near farmland and we dont use pesticides) usually make a break year where they just plant clovers or smth that doesn't really bring any value, thus wasting valuable land that could've been used for growing crops. It just makes farming more inefficient which causes deforestation cause u need more land
Red Hiding Hood see, you have gotten a fact wrong. they leave nutrition in the soil behind. and plants need different amounts of different resources. and that can make a huge difference as if you plant only one type of crop. that will drain one type of nutrients and leave one other type. and that can a huge disbenifit to trying to grow them again, and clovers are not picky and leave behind essential nutrients. and you didnt explain how the size of the root helps/doesnt and the type of the root absolutely does not matter in any way, shape, or form. plus the nutrition from planting clovers helps the crops taste better. and that means better sales and reputation in the growing industry. therefore your entire point is off
@@mr.beanman9816 theyre all plant so idk how can they need diff nutrients and for the roots planting just small roots can create more erosion of the soil where as tree roots keep the soil in place and can reach nutrients that are lower in the ground. But planting trees inside wheat fields is impractical so yeah.. And what reputation? Sales? Its not about making money its about using the least ammount of land to produce the most ammount of crops so we slow deforestation and climate change. GMOs are much more efficient and artificial fertilizers when regulated well can be extremely helpful with much less disadvantages than natural ones.
Red Hiding Hood how would they not? there biological structure is much different and uses different nutrients and how do you think that switching crops is bad even though it reaches better nutritional content and brings it up 😂. you are laughable dude, and i agree that deforestation is terrible but if you plant as much as you can in a small area. it produces more greenhouse gas and is worse for your health. So therefore. bing bong your opinion is wrong. and if you think smaller space is better for animals then you are a bad human
Red Hiding Hood also i was talking about the reputation that you are biologically friendly. you are the human equivalent of a participation award
I think a lot of the stigma originated with “organic” being seen as synonymous with “healthy” while GMO is seen as artificial, and therefore toxic and/or harmful, when that isn’t necessarily the case.
What isn't addressed is the additional resources (land area, manpower, cost) that is required for "organic" production. If 100% of all world-wide food production abandoned GMO, antibiotics, pesticides, fertilizers, and such, the production of food would fall dramatically and the poor would starve.
@@earthwormscrawl they already starve while we produce enough food. Some chemicals are also highly polluting and damage the land they are used on. I don't say organic is THE solution, but it has advantages too, especially if you want something tasty (basic fruits and vegetables from supermarkets are pretty terrible)
Humans have been genetically modifying organisms for thousands of years. It's the main reason why we're the dominant species, we learned how to farm crops and make them produce higher yield through selective breeding.
@Ephraim Bane We have not been "genetically modifying organisms" for thousands of years. I'm sure you know that "GMOs" refers to artificially altering a species' DNA through laboratory techniques that do not happen naturally i.e. genetic engineering, not selective breeding i.e. evolution. The long-term safety of selective breeding has been undeniably proven while there are still unknowns regarding GMOs, not only their effect on human health but also their effect on wildlife and the surrounding environment, both direct and indirect, such as GMOs that are modified to be used with a specific pesticide that's more dangerous than other pesticides. More research is needed.
Saying that selective breeding is the same thing as GMOs is like saying that CRISPR designer babies are no different than conceiving kids naturally because we've been "genetically modifying" humans for millions of years by selectively choosing our partners.
@@nowandaround312 So TL;DR science touched it so it's tainted. Also, we spray pesticides on plants, so why not our children?
Eating local is far better for the environment than buying organic tomatoes from 2000 miles away. support your local farms first
This is crazy relevant to my day.
I work at a grocery store and we were having a conversation about "organic" foods (I was arguing there's little to no difference between the two). My customer argued "Well there's fewer GMO ingredients".
I asked "What does GMO stand for?"
The both of us went silent and I have a feeling that customer won't be coming back... >~>
HAHAHA. Rekt
GMO = Genetically Modified Organism
Well if she does come back you can show her this video and she can see that she's largely wasting her money. I've learned a lot about this subject by watching this and have made the decision that I won't be paying extra for organic at all now as it's really a marketing ploy. It appears that the health and environmental benefits are negligible if non existent so I'll be sticking to regular fruit and veg from now on!
All dogs are a GMO, its my favorite way of poking fun at anti GMO fanatics.
I also love pointing out how Banana's are a GMO by nature, as the only edible ones are genetically created to be sterile and incapable of reproducing.
But they can claim its organic and non GMO because their splicing is done in the shed out back with little scientific oversight, apparently doing scientific research on the subject of genetics suddenly goes too far.
Sherrif it’s quite interesting as the first bananas had lots of large seeds in them, they were small and had a green hard skin. And then through selection of better yield from certain specimens -basically more organic modifying of an organism- they became the current product we see today
That title alone is enough to start a flame war in the comments
Organic food is a scam
What is a flame war? Did you mean shit storm? 🍄
naah its pretty chill down here to be honest
Nathan Zheng *No, thanks, I only eat *organic*, not your chemical shit*(joke)
Bold of you to assume I have the money to buy Organic.
@Mountain Rider Uh. I dunno if you've ever been in a grocery store, but the markup for organic foods is often 100% or more. Cheerios and other cereals are horribly unhealthy. Glysophate is not harmful at the incredibly small amounts required by regulatory agencies in Europe and North America.
bold of you to assume i have money
@Mountain Rider did you watch the video? and for you saying its expensive, have you ever bought organic food?
@@lameduck1690 And often Whole Foods will have organic strawberries at much cheaper prices than conventional strawberries. You just need to keep your eyes open for a thing called "sales". It's when prices go down for a short time.
@@olive4naito The smartest thing to do would be to buy the less attractive looking strawberries at a farmer's market if you want a good price, but generally people without money to spare don't shop at Whole Foods or farmer's markets. The markup for simply shopping there is pretty high.
You forgot to mention that, from a consumer's perspective, it's impossible to distinguish organic from non-organic food. You could be simply paying more money for the same food, which is organic only in its labeling.
Ive a friend who's farm is organic in every metric required, but her farm is not large enough to justify paying the several thousand dollars a year to get it certified. Most only get it for marketing and to charge more for the produce they already made. It's very silly.
Actually he did state that in the video at 6:45
@@manicasion736 He did mention the possibility of fraud from producers, but not the fact that it's impossible to know for sure if you're buying organic or not. This is not something you can solve with regulation.
What do you mean you can't solve it? You can send inspectors to randomly inspect the Farms
I discovered organic food by mistake. I bought a organic not knowing it was organic Apple …. Could not believe how much better it was. I made the switch and since than the flavor and quality in organic food, is so much better. Also this isn’t a good video to watch about organic food. The German DW does a much better job testing the food and has better information. I would t be surprised if this is made by someone who benefits from non organic.
#1 on Trending!
Hope lots of people who don't understand organic foods completely see this video!
Edit: yay people see this more
Justin B. ... this is not the place to learn about organic foods. I bet this is a Monsanto paid video.
@@oakjim206 buying seasonal and local is about as anti monsanto as you can get. as a fan of organic farming methods, i thought this video was incredibly fair. we should always be striving to make all parts of life better. updating sound old methods with sound new ones is just plain smart!
*In 'Murica, We Sell Cheap, Processed, Crappy Food For Low Class People for lower Prices While The Higher Class Eat Healthy and More Naturally for Higher Prices.*
@@oakjim206 the stupids are out and commenting
Fruits with exoskeletons like oranges, bananas, and avocados are safe to eat non organic because you peel the skeleton off before you eat it
03:17 another bird victim of the genocidal reign of kurzgesagt, we need to stop it!
Joking, love your work
I don't get it
I'll just buy one of each.
Genius.
I'll buy conventional then sell them as organic
@@zglrd8938 that is illegal
@@poo655622 you can't even tell the difference so what is the point of labelling anything as 'organic'. EVERYTHING we eat is 'organic' as in carbon-based :)
Niec boi
At 3:35, Snow White got sprayed in the face with pesticides. I could not stop laughing.
my (partial) solution to this problem is to grow my own vegetable garden. I have about 100 square feet that I grow an entire summer's worth of meals in, and I'm thinking of replacing some ornamental trees with apple trees in the near future.
Sorry I know this is irrelevant but I think it would be great if we replaced ALL of the ornamental trees with fruit trees. At least in big cities, it would feed the poor and homeless everywhere...
There is no guarantee that this is actually better though. Possibly the resources put in to the garden would have a greater environmental benefit if used to say ... donate to climate change and energy research. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it though. I recon it makes you happy and that is also worth spending resources on.
Question though: How the hell can a summers worth of meals be grown in a roughly 100 ft^2? Surely 10ft by 10ft or 3m by 3m is no where near a summers worth of meals.
I wish people would stop growing so much grass in their yard and instead grew food for humans. All that grass is mostly useless at best and a huge waste at worst.
@@heinenrby7600 Slight exaggeration on my part; I grow almost all the fruits and all of the vegetables I eat for about a third of the year. I still buy flour/bread/such, meat, most herbs, and citrus products throughout the year. Some of my plants--notably tomatoes--will produce fruit from May well into November. Every year I grow more than my own weight in produce.
If you ask me if it's got carbon atoms then it's organic.
CO2 isn't organic, but in general you're right.
Nobody knows about GMO roundup resistant crops eh? Glyphosphates?
mmm organic steel.
@@jacobchristensen6235 This. Organic requires both carbon and hydrogen.
Jacob Christensen
Yes and no.
It is produced my cellular respiration
It is also produced artificially
Kurzgesagt: we spend a lot of time animating our videos
Also Birb: pressed animate button for 6 seconds
True
@@ObeseGorilla229 did you even watch the video lmfao
Birbs not real
@@calico9046noodle
@Miles Doyle I don't think meth is the right medication for you. Maintain your medication schedule rigorously. Incidentally, your 'prophesies' are a type of con called cold reading, very useful for priests, psychics, mediums, and other assorted frauds and charlatans.
The real question is
How does a TH-cam video still hold up this great 5 years later?
From what I've gathered after looking heavily into this for the past many months. In general yeah, Organic doesn't matter much. But there are some specifics where they matter a lot. This video doesn't touch on animal products, which is one of the few areas where organic actually means the most. There are some specifics fruits and veggies that benefit a lot too, but most of them are a toss up, or don't really matter at all. But I would say: look into the Argentinian soy problem. Pesticides may not do a ton to those who eat the food it was put on, they usually clean that food. but those pesticides get into the air and water supply, and the local people around them suffer because of it.
Still an excellent video, to cover every specific would take hours.
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Remember how in the video it said that organic farming is actually worse for the environment. “Organic” pesticides are worse, requiring farmers to use more, which puts more in the soil. 🙄
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@@j.tizzyy No, the video claimed that "organic" pesticides CAN be worse, it depends on the specific pesticide being used, and the video did also imply that organic food uses less pesticides.
There is simply not enough farmland to produce food for the world if everyone eats organic (fruits/veggies). "GMO"s *literally* help solve world hunger.
I'll stick to my perfectly healthy GMOs, thank you very much.
0:52 "I love Food & Stuff, it's where i buy all of my food.... And most of my stuff"
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All board the swanson train!
ron fucking swanson
Parks and rec
I was hoping i wasn’t the only one that noticed
8:28 how to pronounce kurzgesagt
thank you
kots ge sagged
@@ragestuffin
Kots is something else and is written kotz (Kotze, kotzen), meaning vomit(ing). Like: ich kotz gleich - I will vomit soon.
You need to spell it with an u followed by an r an then ts, not ots
Kuyts ger ZAKT. ("r" in this combination is like "y", "er" like in British English "her")
kut ke zat
You guys make learning feel amazing.
Nice and objective, just how I like it! I wouldn't go so far as to call Organic a scam, but it definitely is taking advantage of idiots that see organic and without a second thought think it's somehow better. The simple fact that it requires more land is enough to outweigh the benefits of using less energy, since we can use alternative energy sources, but the more land is needed the more of it is lost for other crops and especially forests.
The only real benefit of organic vs normal is the crop cycling, and conventional farming would benefit from that as well.
Also - people need to stop being ignorant about GMOs. From a technical standpoint, pretty much every strawberry is a GMO. Every mule is a GMO. Every mongrel is a GMO. Genetically Modified Organisms are made by mixing genes of different species to achieve an offspring with certain qualities. In case of a mule, for example, it's done by breeding a male donkey with a female horse. In case of modern, common understanding of GMO it's done by selectively transferring certain genes directly. GMO's are great to increase crop production, reduce the usage of pesticides, reduce the energy requirements, increase nutritional value, and so on.
Taking advantages of someone is quite literally a scam, just because it's not as harmful as bigger scams doesn't make it exempt for the title.
I agree with the crop cycling, even farmers would gain from that long-term since they wouldn't have to buy as much fertilizers.
@@Chronically_ChiII Technically you're right about what qualifies as a scam, but at the same time you'd have to consider all Apple products scams, you'd have to consider most premium car manufacturers as scams, you'd have to consider a lot of designer clothing companies scams, you'd basically have to consider pretty much every product where you pay extra for the brand a scam.
You can do it, but is it worth it? You'd water down the meaning of that word pretty quickly.
@Karen Im sure you isolated the variables before making this very credible and scientific anecdote, right?
@Karen so what's ur point? How are u backing up ur claim that organic food has helped you?
What's special in organic food?
@@rubbers3 I think he answered himself by saying that he was on other health remedies?
He is just intentionally trying to reinforce his bias
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this for years. Did a paper on it in college. It’s all marketing. However- we can all agree that Monsanto was one of the most evil fucking companies on the planet. But yes, buy local, buy seasonal ❤️.
in Egypt you are forced to buy seasonal anyway ,lol
We have no idea yet if it really makes a difference.
So many conventional pesticides haven't been around long enough to know the long term effects.
These companies have trained to think they are doing us a favor by Not Sprinkling Chemicals on our FOOD
I disagree about Monsanto. Monsanto, just like all companies, are driven by economics and politics. That is how we have structured the system, and the structure leads to certain almost unavoidable results. Therefore, like all giant multinational companies, Monsanto has done some shitty things. That is inevitable. However, they're not special and they also do a lot of good. For example, they give tens of millions of dollars to charity every year, not to mention that their products (which have made them one of the largest agricultural companies for a reason) are very useful and preferred by the people who buy them.
Again, clearly not perfect like every other company- but also not even close to being "one of the most evil fucking companies on the planet". I'd reserve that title to companies that deal with pseudoscience/alternative medicine and scams like amway.
Could I ask you to explain what you mean about the Monsanto thing, please? I'd really love to understand what you're trying to say!
Monsanto is not the evil bogeyman nitwits on the internet claim it to be. It's all half truths or out of context bullshit the gullible drink up.
It’s ridiculous to see the organic label on literally everything such as salt. What makes it organic? It’s just salt!
you are right NaCl will always remain NaCl(salt) organic or not
Don't know where you live, but here in Europe, salt is never labeled organic, as all minerals.
@GhostFZ 62 The label is European and no longer particular to a country, so every country has the same standards. Minerals are never classified as being organic, though you can still buy it in organic shops. If you do find salt that claims to be organic it most likely isn't the oficial logo, not only it is tied to the government and so heavily controled, you have to pay for it.
I saw some organic salt one time at a grocery store. I was just thinking "what do they mean organic"
Sodium glutamate is an organic salt, for example
I worked in a strawberry pathology lab (studying strawberry diseases), and we had to visit many nearby strawberry farms, including one ginormous organic strawberry farm.
Visiting that farm was always disappointing because it had hundreds of acres of tiny little strawberry plants that were half dead or not even producing a single strawberry all season long. On top of that, farmers in that region use plastic sheets as a mulch to prevent weeds from growing. So, what you would see is hundreds of acres of plastic lining long mounds of tiny little strawberry plants that were completely useless.
At the end of the season, farmers take all that plastic, throw it into a pile and burn it. It is an extremely costly and intensive system all to produce “organic” strawberries that were tiny and tasted really bad.
Not all organic production systems are like this - and a lot of new research is coming out to improve them - but I wanted share a personal experience with an organic farm that I had to visit many times.
If you wanna eat better produce, try to find local fruits or vegetables, because smaller farmers are able to care more for their crops. They also tend to harvest the crops riper (more nutrients) than the ones you see in large groceries, because they don’t have to ship them across entire continents.
I grew up on my family dairy farm, we switched over to organic not because we believed in it but because of money! The farm’s profites have more than tripled since the switch. As long as there are skeptics out there, we will continue to profit off them.
Good for you?
You switched to organic... dairy?
@@pashadyne skeptics are people who think that the "organic" label on their calzones and deep dish pizzas makes it better somehow.
also what is the difference between organic and conventional dairy? in the end it's just the same milk, no?
@@pashadyne ah thanks, i was confused there.
Organic is almost meaningless because there is no official definition. We need established standards for organic goods so that the label isn’t just feel good marketing jargon.
Non-GMO project has great standards. But I agree with you, if you don't know and trust it, don't buy it.-
This is basically the continuum fallacy. Just because there is no universally accepted definition doesn't mean that there is no use for organic products. The vagueness surrounding the word doesn't make the word invalid.
There are plenty of words in the scientific community that have no official, 100% accepted definition. "Species" has no real 100% accepted official definition, that doesn't mean that the concept of "species" is totally useless.
Yes/No. Organic has a scientific meaning. However, as used by anti-science groups, it is meaningless.
@@MK-hs9ck There is a strict scientific definition. However, just because scammers do not abide by it, doesn't mean it is vague.
Carbon-based?
It seems as tho organic is just a method of price discrimination to increase profits. A way for Supermarkets to sieve out the customers who are more willing to pay slightly more
Miles well it costs much more to produce. I worked for a potato company in Wisconsin and the profit margin is about the same.
@@aaronsoto1346 That's interesting! I did mean more from a supermarket's perspective than producer tho. Coffee places do it a lot, pay 10p more for fair-trade coffee when it only costs them 2p more to produce etc. A way of making more money from those who are willing to pay more by slightly differentiating the product
This video might as well be sponsored by big agricultural companies just to lead people away from organic and family markets. This video has only one intention, to show that organic isn't better than conventional foods. But here are facts: There are thousands of different antioxidants and there are thousands of studies that prove the benefits of them on human body, remember that Vitamins C and E are antioxidants as well and also chemicals like l-theanine and anthocyanins, and this guy is telling that there is no proof. Wtf? There are hundreds of studies proving link between conventional pesticides and herbicides and cancer, infertility and other serious diseases. Also herbicides are killing bee population like plague and there are a very large concern in the world about pollinators. And conventional agriculture methods are ones which are depleting ground from any nutrients, they just grow one kind of crop one year after another depleting all the minerals from ground. But organic farmers use methods like rotating, using manure, lime to keep ground healthy and we have farmed like that for thousands of years and never had faced problems with ground depletion but since conventional farming suddenly ground depletion is a problem. Funny heh? There are also a lot of different and smaller aspects but this is already too long. And my parents are big scale farmers so I know my shit. So yeah. I'm unsubbing this channel and suggesting you to do the same.
Well you have also to pay the 25% of crop loose
Toms Tukmanis you have already made up your mind about being pro organic which makes any evidence to the contrary false in your eyes. It’s the exact same with climate change deniers. Your response is based on some good points mixed with ignorance, conjecture and anecdotal evidence. A lot of the big farms do both organic and conventional farming. And they do rotate crops to keep the nutrients from being depleted in both ways. You come off as a crazy conspiracy science denier and why the hell would anybody reading your response look at it and think, “wow, this is a reasonable guy.”
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@@Sarp1sthebest google the definition
Crude oil is organic.
O crap better start eating some crude oil 😂
Keith Barrett Ethanol is organic aswell. Drink up bois.
The plastic chair I'm sitting on is organic.
My dick is organic
@@henryjiang9664 Oh that thing they put in race cars? Yeah, go ahead guys.
I like how Kurzgesagt keeps the balance between two
@Nexatronic for suspens
@Nexatronic that's true but I meant suspens help us to keep focus on a video/anything and make it more interesting
@Nexatronic also if he presented one of the two as infallible and as the perfect solution to all problems, I would suspect that he was biased. Not like you can form an opinion just based on a 9 min. video, but still, it doesn't immediately make you go "mmm feels like bs".
@Nexatronic they used both extremes in the video such as proof and near the end they reccomended using a mixture of both to get the best of both extremes
아이유?
Lemon at 0:12 be like: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
And the pumpkin is too Aquamanish... With trident, yellow torso and green pants
One of their videos they have waving snail from adventure time.
That's from adventure time btw anyone scrolling through~
Kurzgesagt is awesome at Easter Eggs. 0:51 "I love Food and Stuff. It's where I buy all of my food... And most of my stuff."
UNACCEPTABLE CONDITIONS
I found that there is a huge difference in organic chicken and non organic, you can taste and smell the difference. However, there are lots of scams on the 'organic' label for products.
U want organic chicken u need to goto a farm or get live chickens
I think this has nothing to do with it being organic or not chickens smell and taste is usually related to what they are being fed.
@@SalamanderBattleBrother being organic certified is probably why there is a difference in what the chickens are being fed
@@geenskeen if you feed your chicken fish remains (which is also organic) it will taste like fish i don't think you want that.
7:16 Finn’s Grads Sword and Jake’s Sword reference? Nice one!
UPD: And Lemongrab at the beginning!
PopLopChop WE LOVE ADVENTURE TIME
How did you get that reference but not see the lemon grab at 0:11
@@777guy1 UNACCEPTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLE
@@BattleCookie404 **internal screeching**
I thought I was overthinking, but wow
I work in the horticulture industry, most of my career as a spray operator and we use both organic and conventional sprays and I can confirm that some organic ones are worse. I’ve always said we need to aim for sustainable cropping. Also the land usage thing wouldn’t be a big deal if we all ate fruit and mostly vegetables and very little meat. Meat production is extremely inefficient, compared to vegetable production. The best thing to do would be to grow your own, but the human race is probably way too urbanised now.
Sad but true at least in some areas. Urban Gardening gains more traction each year, because of my studies at university I have to live in a city but that doesn't stop me from growing plants on my balcony and in my room :D Maybe I am biased because many of my friends are starting to do the same but I really think this gets more popular with every passing year, just like veganism does for example.
Another thing that gets in the way of growing your own food in a city : most people think you can just grow whatever on balconies and rooftops, but many older buildings can't take the weight of the soil, the plant and their retained water and would risk collapsing. Although I think new buildings could be designed with that in mind, if people were to actively ask for it. :)
I prefer meat though. Vegan isn't a healthy choice for me and my problems. I would probably become even more underweight from it.
@@user-dl3vn8ze9n well the best way to gain weight are carbohydrates which you find mainly in plant based foods like pasta, potatos etc. Also it isn't very hard to get good plant based fats as well. Avocados, Nuts, Rapeseed oil...
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I really don’t think going pure vegan is our natural diet. A healthy, omnivorous mix of both vegetables, grains & animal products is the way to go. Be it meat or just eggs / dairy.
At least when you’re vegetarian your having some animal based proteins and fats.
Explain this, Geography teachers
i-win mine did
hello i-win
Stop liking and replying this loser's comment, this loser's comment shouldn't be popular.
@@greenoleeno3793 Are you talking about yourself or OP?
i-win you mean science teachers?
I think we like the idea of organic, but at the moment the high demand for extra land, deforestation, cheap labour, supply chain issues and exorbitant prices means that 'organic ' food production still has a lot of problems to solve.
Seasonal eating and supporting local growers would definately be a good habit for all of us to learn.
Well, pesticides are one of the main contributors of deforestation due to the killing soil microbes… Organic is still better for the planet in the long run.
The thing is, a lot of regions where human population is concentrated do not have suitable seasons to grow crops and arable land. There is a gap between ideal places for human living and the ideal places for farming. Look at the recent news of tomato shortage in the UK. People in the UK want tomatoes but tomatoes are ideally grown in warmer climate like Spain or North Africa. If they are to eat seasonally and locally, they would be left with turnips.
As my dad once said "the difrence of organic and normal is that organic fields are sprayed at night"
Lmfao same thing my Pa said hes a farmer also.
As I said just now "Your dad is a complete moron!"
danm right
How to make organic food 101
Slap the certificate organic on anything
Roflmao nice
This video needs to be played in a continuous loop at the entrance of EVERY Sprouts grocery store!!
Employees gonna go insane :P
and after like 2 loops the customers are gonna be annoyed too
@@notjacobwilliams8311
As badly as Sprouts treats its employees, the employees "go insane" anyway. Hence Sprouts' 98% turnover rate. (Turnover rate = what percentage of employees are not there one year after hire date?)
@@notjacobwilliams8311 nonooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
So in the end of the day, we are fighting against marketing buzzwords for no real advantages in the long run?
Sounds so normal for me.
That's a fairly american thing to do. Too bad it's spreading to most over first-world countries.
pretty much lol
@Uncle Jericho Wants YOU!!! Yeah but unlike those, the american medias and most of the idiots there took PC culture to ridiculously high levels of idiocy.
I mean, calling black people "people of color" may sound a bit dumb, but actively harassing those who don't do it is just plunging rockbottom further down.
Supershadow301 Pc culture is disgustingly liberal and does not actually fix the underlying issues that cause oppression.
Supershadow301 as a “POC” I completely agree lmfao PC Americans more mad about what black people are called than black people themselves lol
Please make a follow up video of this including many latest reports, statistics, data, researches especially in the post-COVID era.
I mean this was very Euro/American-centric. I live in Argentina and most regular produce is really bad quality; frozen for long periods of time and is produced in large farms where there is a lot of pesticide and fertilizer runoff polluting rivers and lakes. Documented cases of cancer in nearby villages and huge amounts of deforestation coupled with monoculture have devastated rural communities and ecosystems. Small organic farms tend to be more focused on the well being of the consumer and being in contact with the growing process. I can clearly TASTE the difference between supermarket bought produce and local market bought. I agree the fight shouldn't be between two sides but about the specifics of the production process and the regulation. People should be better informed about the agricultural and industrial sectors do in their production processes.
la mayoria d la audience es d paises anglofonos
Thats the comment to take this video with a bottle of salt.
Yes that’s what I thought of halfway through this video. The food industry in the Global South is much less accountable and Kurzgesagt being apolitical here is actually damaging and dangerous. Geography changes the debate massively, and simplifying the arguments like this only helps developed countries.
True, but "going organic" is not in any way reasonable solution to that problem.
What the fuck is an Argentina?
Kurzgesagt just makes me happy, regardless of what video it is
Tabasco ftw path bruv
TH-cam for the first time announced upload on time
Yes
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@Brody Emrich Im famous now
@Brody Emrich Quiting job to be youtube comments star
@Kyrill Huet yeah that's the problem Yuugen discussed in the main comment
As someone who has been plant based for 19 years this was great because I was frankly clueless. I never understood what organic meant other than assuming it was a marketing scam so I've never bought into it. Glad to know I haven't been making a mistake all this time per sae.
This video is so misinformed. Organic means NO glyphosate! .
@@SublimeGemini From what I can see from a quick look phosphates are generally found in meats, fish, nuts, beans, and dairy. This means that meat organic or not is going to have phosphates, therefore I think you are incorrect in your assumption?
@@xCriticalStrikex I’m sorry I think it autocorrected what I was saying, I meant to say glyphosate. Glyphosate is the main compound in roundup. The food absorbs it and we eat it. Organic means no round up. It’s not a scam, a lot of people do not want that in their body and rightfully so. “Inorganic” has only been a thing since the late 60’s and farmers started using it in the 70’s. We’ve been farming organic for thousands of years there’s no reason to use glyphosate other than it’s cheap and companies just want to make as much money as they can. They don’t care about your health, that’s why there’s such a debate about organic. It’s propaganda big corporation farms pushing “inorganic” and makes organic seem like it’s crazy.
You got fooled.
Organic still uses less pesticides, pesticides that don't kill microbiome and every living insect in a radius of a lightyear, including the extreme extiction of bees due to synthetic substances.
Also no overuse of synthetic fertilizers (another issue because production is very co2 heavy and again destroys rainforests) that end up in rivers and drinking water.
Hmm, whom to believe? Random TH-cam commenters or a TH-cam video with sources referred to thoughout, from a channel with a diligent team of fact-checkers?
7:21 Finns grass sword from adventure time
The other creature has Jake's sword
nice, I was looking for this comment
RIP Fern.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic lmao
crap, you beat me to it
More than this. In my country, where many bananas are farmed, the companies pay the certifier to get the "organic" certification. Meanwhile they still use pesticides and chemicals. Aside from the explotation of the workers.
Banana's cannot be organic, as they're a GMO. Want to know how GMO they are? The plants you eat are sterile, incapable of reproducing.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Well yeah, all Bananas are sterile. We just break off a specific stem to grow a new banana tree. They aren't genetically modified itself, but without humans. Banana trees will either be way fewer numbers or be extinct.
You don’t eat the thick skin of bananas, so organic is not really helpful there.
Bananas are also partly the product of Atomic Gardening in the 50s, when we'd plant various species near a radiation source to induce mutations and keep the desirable ones. A huge number of "organic" plants have deliberate gene mutations in their history. That's not counting the extremely slow assisted natural selection methods we've been doing since we start farming. The only thing that's changed is how fast and how precise our edits have become.
Use lady bugs and other predatory authropods.
I would be very interesting if there was information about how the microbiology is affected by organic vs conventional farming. How does the small ecosystems in our fields and plantations get affected and pollinators, insects and so on.
Your head's in the right place, kudos vippen. Soil health is essential. There are more organisms in one shovelful of healthy soil than the number of humans living right now. These microorganisms are crucial for clean food, air, water and medicine. It doesn't get more foolish than to destroy them.
Less tillage is more better for microbes in the soil. There is lots of research on it.
I agree, I noticed it was left out completely. I guess an issue with only using scientific papers as evidence is, if there are no studies on it, then it doesn't become part of the discussion, and for a lot of these topics, we just haven't research it enough. Either that, or the video would have been too long.
Right. That ecosystem is affected by farming in general. Conventional or otherwise. Its more to do with the types of crops we grow on a land and how frequently we do it. Crop rotation is generally a good practice, crops don't have to be organic for it. And ig you want to change something in your diet to improve the environment: BUY LOCAL AND BUY SEASONAL
organic just let mortal diseases develop, also conventional, if we don't use pesticide too much, is the best for the environment
I wished this video had discussed the health effects of organic vs conventional on the workers. This is the angle on organic products that sold me.
Workers must follow REI's whether they are spraying pesticides on an organic field or a non-organic crop.
Follow the law which means follow the label and the REI's and everyone is gold.
I wish that those who did the work would make the money
GMO crops grown in vertical farms are the future!!
I agree, Ms. Frizzle showed me.
They use just too much metals and difficult to recycle high techs...unpractical in the long term.
Well, not every kind of food is suited for vertical farming sadly.
Nah man population control is the future!
A variety of crops grown in a variety of methods best suited to the local environment with well-priced externalities like greenhouse gas emissions, ecological toxicity, and genetic diversity factored into the selection are the future!
7:16 If you can add an Adventure Time reference, surely you can add a JoJo reference soon.
Good catch dude!
We meet again
Justin Y. *No it should have Harry Potter and lord of the rings reference!*
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Yep there's always time for JoJo reference.
I'll take some aVoCaDoS fRoM mExIcO!
I live in Mexico. And thanks to the need from Avocados from here. Prices skyrocketed, 1 kilo (which is what he handle) was really expensive.
It makes me wonder. Are people actually concerned about health? And the environment? Or do they just want to look good?
Why is No Gluten food a thing? How is it that for years no one had problems with Gluten.
There is a tariff on avocadoes.. HUGE price increase..
@@forzaflash What's expensive though? Expensive by Mexican standards? Expensive by US standards? I honestly feel for the rest of the world when the US gets into crazy food crazes I mean quinoa? That used to be a major staple food in Peru didn't it? But oh no, we like it up here, are willing to spend probably 10x the cost for it versus local, so it gets sent here so farmers can make a bunch of money and locals largely get shat on.
As to the gluten thing, part of it is again fad diets where we find one or two studies that says gluten does this or that and we grip onto those, ignoring the fact people have been eating gluten for a while. There's also an allergy aspect too, but it's kind of like peanuts, no one had a peanut allergy 30 years ago, then it started growing, and growing and now every other kid is allergic to peanuts. Personally I think there is something scarier at work here, and it might just be our fear of it has doctors giving advice to stay away from it, and as a result your body doesn't get used to the proteins and when they eventually do your body thinks it's something dangerous.
Drug Cartels also extort Avacado farmers, jacking up the prices even more
@Danny Dircio well 10% is actually a lot if that percentage is true. That's one 1 of every 10 people. So it makes sense to mark the food as "gluten free" or Non GMO. I always read labels. I spicifically stay away from things with high fructose corn syrup, which is one of the main causes of health issues in the US.
I think that the main issue with conventional farming vs organic farming is the degenerative effect the wide-spread pesticide use & lack of soil health that is prominent within conventional farming. Conventional farming is "bad" because it over-emphasizes huge crop yields rather than maintaining soil health, this is the reason farmers need to pump so much fertilizer and pesticides into their farmland. We rip all of the nutrients out of the soil and never give it a chance to regenerate; ways to alleviate this would be by properly utilizing crop covers, more strategic crop rotations, and minimizing monocultures.
It's also important to note that not having enough food is hardly the reason there is a global hunger crisis. Worldwide nearly 1/3 of all food is wasted due to consumerism, ineffective packaging, and cosumer waste; thats nearly 1.3 billion tons. I think the problem should be less about making more food and more about making the food process more effecient to where it benefits more people.
Also, degraded soil health leads to more runoff, and in turn, more runoff of particulates and pesticides into our waterways; which is a whole host of different problems.
MRW I read a food label that says it's "organic": "Oh, you mean to tell me that this product is made from matter containing carbon-based chemical compounds? Gee, thanks for specifying that!"
"most of us don't eat enough"
me on my 16th apple: WHEN DO I STOP
_Me on my 9th Kiyat be like:_
LOL
me on my 10th pear:
Me on my 6946995311778875422th burger inn a row
Me on my 3rd cow
I think about the movie the Dictator when they ask him what's in his bag and he has some kind of drink that has the potassium of 3 bananas. They he pulls out 3 actual bananas and they ask him why and he says because you can't trust the marketing 😂😂😂
ryzen 3rd gen will beat ass of shintel
@@default632 y is this here?
I don't remember The Dictator having words until the very end, with Charlie Chaplin's speech. what scene are you talking about?
@@CreeperOnYourHouse you're thinking of "The Great Dictator", nice try.
YouGoProBaseball what is john madden doing here !
the best way to get seasonal fruit is to grow it yourself really, I grew pumpkins on my own, sure. It took a bit of work but I got some good exercise and some good veggies, also parsley and other herbs. Also growing strawberries but they haven't produced anything yet. I live on a hobby farm so I do have more room to grow stuff but you could still grow things in pots and other stuff. Gardening is fun, and you could spend a little less if you were growing some of your own veggies like lettuce.
Good comparison between organic and conventional food. There is only one thing you forgot: conventional agriculture is more efficent, but in the long term it damages the soil with monocultures, synthetic fertilizers, etc. . Organic agriculture avoids this through for example agroforestry systems, crop rotation, hybridcultures, organic fertilizers, etc. Soil erosion is a very big problem in agriculture and it is very important to maintain the soil fertility. Otherwise we will get a very big problem, because no food will grow anymore. So a sustainable agriculture might be the less efficient one, but it is the one agriculture, which guarantees, that following generations have soil to farm. I think that's a really important information for the decision between organic and conventional food.
but being sustainable has nothing to do with the label "organic".
@@Szobiz not with the lable "organic", yes, but with organic agriculture like the one of "Demeter" in Germany/Europe and others. There are so many "organic" labels (a whole topic for itself) and to many still allows unsustainable agriculture or even the use of some synthetic pesticides (because of legal loopholes). Therefore it is important to inform about different labels and to chose those, which have strict criteria and support sustainable agriculture (in Germany this would be for example "Demeter", "Bioland", "Naturland"), if you want to buy organic and be sure not to fall for fraudulent labelling.
Hence why I advocate vertical farming with GMO crops (we currently have the tech for both) for our future needs. At least until we can get replicators and nanomachine sorted out , that is.
Thanks for that comment, that's what was missing in the Video, and it's a huge point! Organic Farming with less Population, that's the way to go.
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Or skip organic farming entirely. It doesn't seem to have any much benefit to begin with.
This is my all time favourite youtube channel! Please keep making more!
Mine too
They give me knowledge we don't get from schools
Actually you do learn that in school, but I guess there are other problems that comes with that.
School (the classical) sucks.
Another example of captured media. The FDA doesn't TEST anything. They allow manufacturers to provide testing data and slap things as "generally considered safe" willy nilly without any auditing or testing of their own. Saying we shouldn't be concerned about pesticides is the most absurd thing you can say in a video comparing organic and non organic produce.
I used to buy nothing but organic for a few months a few years ago. That is until I tried some local food such as eggs, peaches, and tomatoes. Damn did I realize that I was getting fucked! The local eggs were far richer in the yolk coloring, the taste was splendid, I eat them all the time soft boiled, I can't stand a store bought egg soft, organic or not! The tomatoes and peaches had a far richer taste and more juices. Honestly I can't even tell the difference between organic and not, only my wallet can!
Got me 4 chickens, and I now have a huge garden where I grow heavenly food. Organic is nothing but a fad!
Kimbo Bruiser that’s amazing
bok choy grown in the own garden is worlds better than the storebought stuff, its insane how much difference there is
Exactly!! Local/homegrown produce is way better than anything bought at the market whether it is organic or non organic.
Nobody knows about GMO roundup resistant crops eh? Glyphosphates?
Kimbo Bruiser
I mean I, for one, just never notices a difference. I didn't eat much "organic" but I didn't feel any different as I did...
8:00 hits the nail on the head. A lot of the time organic produce definitely tastes better, but that is because organic produce is usuall locally sourced, and thus fresher. It hasn`t been put in a freezer and shipped across the country.
This is true, although in this case it is indeed the better food environmentally, not coz of the organic label, but because it is local :)
"Shipped"
Hmmmmmm
As interesting as the thought is, it's also, unfortunately, a blanket statement. The biggest difference between frozen and fresh foods are texture (see how frozen peas are mushier than much fresher "crisp" peas.)
I'm sure there are instances of fresh produce tasting better than certain brands of frozen food, but being frozen doesn't affect taste *that much* if at all.
In many cases, frozen foods retain more nutrients over time, definitely more than if you were to purchase an identical "fresh" food that had already been sitting out for a day or two in the market.
It IS true that if you can get fresh food, in season, it will generally taste better than fresh food that's out of season, though.
Something interesting, numerous studies that include blind tasting have been done, and found that in many cases, frozen tastes better than fresh; the most notable ones mentioning seafood, corn, peas, and carrots.
Just some notes.
it tastes better because you think it is supposed to. if you can convince yourself that a touch of pesticide brings out the flavor then non organic food will then taste better to you. many taste tests have shown that often the label outside the product matters more to peoples tastes than the actual food does.
@@main135s actually frozen peas are better .many of the natural sugars and vitamins break down quickly in peas so flash frozen usually actually taste better than fresh peas unless you pick them yourselves.
I love Food and Stuff. It's where I buy all my food… and most of my stuff.
How insightful