Peter had been solo for a few years already when Ace was starting his band Frehley's Comet. Peter was ready for a team up with Ace. But Ace probably wanted to try and make it on his own and do it without any collaboration from an x-Kiss member. What ever he reason, now we know that Ace didnt offer the gig to Peter.
I saw them live in 1979, but it was kickass awesome seeing them on the Reunion tour. I saw them many times in between 1979 and 1996, but it was beyond thrilling to me that they reunited. I was psyched to have the original KISS back!
Same here!! I was so thankful when they got back together. I was 3 in 78 and absolutely took to this band like no other and they will go down as my favorite band all time. I was so fortunate I got to see them on Reunion, Psycho Circus.
Don't forget Peter gruff singing style was a big part of the kiss sound.I remember it was Hard Luck Woman on 45 that I first bought.And Black Diamond a song that defined early kiss depended on Peters voice.Most the girls loved Peter the most cause of Beth and his heavy "umpa-chunka" drumming was the best that drove their music ! All fans know all albums up to Love Gun were the best with Dynasty managing to pull off a disco orientated hit "I was made for Loving You"and unmasked having some catchy tunes but signaling that Kiss was changing.
@Craig From Black Oak Arkansas to Now .. Tommy is a Beast and Iv Seen Him at Drum Clinic's ect ... And Im a Huge Fan Of His as Well As Carl Palmer & R.I.P Cozy Powell... I Concur What You Said . Cheers !! 😷
Ace really didn't want Peter in his band. Ace knew of Peter's issues and was perfectly happy allowing Paul and Gene to handle Peter. But when it came down to it Ace voted Peter out of the band as well. That tells you all you need to know
If Peter and Ace never got strung out on drug's and booze, they would have made better career choices. Saying all that after the fact means nothing. They did overcome their problems and forged ahead and made each other millions again. Glad I saw their first reunion.
@@PetesCDVinylWorld - Unmasked flopped because of no hit. Dynasty was almost exactly the same but I Was Made was a huge hit worldwide yet Dynasty only sokd 2M copies vs other artists selling 5-10M copies. As Paul has said if you rely on hit songs you're only as good as your last hit and this is proof
They would have been fucked even if they were stone sober. Let's face it, we all love Peter but the dude really couldn't write a song If you put a gun to his head. He had a great voice but what good is a great voice without great songs? I couldn't imagine Ace being a chart-topper during the height of 80s hair metal. Heavy Music was starting to go a different way and modern rock / hair metal was more about aesthetics. And not the kind of aesthetics Ace was known for
These dudes have railroaded each other for 50 years. Lol. So many clips of each member saying terrible things about each other and so many clips of them praising one another. My conclusion is that if you’re not fond of someone, you walk away, ignore and never mention them. Kiss doesn’t really do that so I think they still care for one another much more than they convey in these type of interviews.
Nope not Ace. Only Peter had that deal cause they wanted him out so badly and wanted him to go smoothly and not make waves, bad publicity etc. Ace was bought out (eventually) when he quit, but he didnt a retain a full share of the partnership, like Peter did.
@@waltruether Peter did get a sweet deal, although they called it a "firing" he was not really fired. I don't know anyone who gets fired and continues to get paid for several years. Peter really could have said, "No, I am an equal member and not going anywhere", but he didn't, which is why they gave him a sweet deal to get him to leave!
@@JENDALL714 no-he was fired. TWICE. Peter only retained his partnership cause they wanted him to go quietly and not make a fuss in the press. They were still huge and wanted to retain the image of ‘all for one and one for all’. Plus, I believe Bill Aucoin had a personal affection for Peter and wanted to see him treated fairly. As for Peter ‘refusing to be fired’ it doesn’t work that way-he was part of a partnership and the other partners voted him out. Period.
This interview happened about a couple years before the Star Magazine hoax, where imposter Christopher Dickinson pretended to be a homeless Peter Criss.
After reading a bunch of comments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Personally I think to many people inject themselves into situations they know absolutely nothing about instead of appreciating the 50 years of great music ALL kiss members gave us and are still giving us to this very day.. Just shows how little people really are both in stature and intellect..
@@brianstrutter1501 You think people are smart?? Ya know,, There is a reason we have tags on turkey basters saying ""Not for rectal use"" and on blow dryers saying ""do not use in shower""..
Kiss needed them too hence the reunion was all because Kiss was tanking and woulldnt of survived the 90;s with Kulick & singer The Carnival Of souls tour would of flopped Hard
Hey everyone. Just listen to 74-79 and ignore these old farts. Imagine they are so old have no filter and talk shit like any other grampa would but they are also artists so they take everything to heart.
I don't know if there's anything more gratifying or hilarious then watching 70's only Kiss fans/blue kool aid drinkers bend over backwards, lie, twist and contort human logic to defend Peter Criss and his supposed abilities and importance to Kiss at every turn, then CRUCIFY him the second he says anything critical of Frehley. PRICELESS.
Petey Criss angry?? Shocking! Weird how despite being such a "great drummer", he was never asked to play on anyones albums or tour with anyone. You know - like Eric Singer was.
Peter was Peter. He wouldn’t tour with anyone else. Neither would Ace. Big difference between Eric and Peter. Say what you will about his skills, he was HUGE. He wouldn’t play with another group. Silly comment.
@@DavidM-mb1vx He wouldn't play with another group? That's the dumb comment. He put something together with Mark Taint John. They couldn't get signed because they sucked. If Peter was so huge, he'd have been hired shortly after getting KissKanned.
Peter Criss! I love him because he's the original drummer! However... Carr & Singer were much more better... yes a very different style than Peter but to each his own...
25% Gene 25% Paul 25%Ace 25%Peter......Eric carr employee Vinnie Employee mark st john employee Bruce employee Mark employee Eric Singer employee Thommy Thayer EMPLOYEE...there only one equal KISS...
@ justinfendelet8675 "...one equal KISS", this was Paul's illusion. When he was young. It didn't work in reality. And most musicians are "employees", they have to work for money. To call Tommy an "employee" sounds too pejorative! He is a musician and he is KISS💋.
I would have liked to see the original kiss band still be together today but, it was'nt suppose to be. Why do we still talk about. Could of, should of, would of. It's over. These guys are pushing mid seventies. Rolling stones are old, do you really want to see old men trying to be young. Even the audience would be old. You can't relive your party days.
that click for subscribe makes me not subscribe lol .. its like im listening to the interview and in the middle these annoying clicks lol .. but great interview to that point.
Paul said in a Q&A about Peter, he didn't need anybody shooting in his head. Peter:"...so I don't have really anything against Paul". No, I really don't need any Peter nostalgia.
No shit! Paul wrote in his first book how easily Ace let Peter down. This confirms Peter's version. That Ace was a traitor! And it confirms you can not trust drug/alcohol addicts.
FINALLY. I have wondered for decades why these two didn't hook up in the 80s. Now I know. Pete wanted to but Ace didn't.
Peter had been solo for a few years already when Ace was starting his band Frehley's Comet. Peter was ready for a team up with Ace. But Ace probably wanted to try and make it on his own and do it without any collaboration from an x-Kiss member. What ever he reason, now we know that Ace didnt offer the gig to Peter.
Shheat! Yes the reunion did happen and they were incredible!! Thank goodness I got to see the real kiss
I saw them live in 1979, but it was kickass awesome seeing them on the Reunion tour. I saw them many times in between 1979 and 1996, but it was beyond thrilling to me that they reunited. I was psyched to have the original KISS back!
@@RocknRollAllNightme too except didn’t see in 79. But got to meet all except Paul on Reunion at the Peabody Hotel have Autographs to prove it 😃😃🥹
@@Goodboy0953 awesome!!
Same here!! I was so thankful when they got back together. I was 3 in 78 and absolutely took to this band like no other and they will go down as my favorite band all time. I was so fortunate I got to see them on Reunion, Psycho Circus.
Don't forget Peter gruff singing style was a big part of the kiss sound.I remember it was Hard Luck Woman on 45 that I first bought.And Black Diamond a song that defined early kiss depended on Peters voice.Most the girls loved Peter the most cause of Beth and his heavy "umpa-chunka" drumming was the best that drove their music ! All fans know all albums up to Love Gun were the best with Dynasty managing to pull off a disco orientated hit "I was made for Loving You"and unmasked having some catchy tunes but signaling that Kiss was changing.
Peter Criss is great and was a part of Kiss's success
Oh yes
Sad to see peter this way.......
Peter acts like Ace owes him, like he owes Peter and should put Peter on his album.
Coked up entitled looser that can't play drums. The only reason Ace would want him on the album was to ruin it.
Ace didn't calll Criss for his solo albums cause he had a way better drummer: Anton Fig.
I agree!! I’m a drummer for 40 plus years and Peter had the swing but not the caplability like Eric car, Singer or Anton Fig.
I agree Kevin Nash, but do you "Feel the Power" of the Warrrrriiiiioooorrrrrr..
@Craig From Black Oak Arkansas to Now ..
Tommy is a Beast and Iv Seen Him at Drum Clinic's ect ...
And Im a Huge Fan Of His as Well As Carl Palmer & R.I.P Cozy Powell...
I Concur What You Said .
Cheers !! 😷
Ace really didn't want Peter in his band. Ace knew of Peter's issues and was perfectly happy allowing Paul and Gene to handle Peter. But when it came down to it Ace voted Peter out of the band as well. That tells you all you need to know
Ace admitted that he didn't ask Peter to be in his solo band because Peter wasn't good enough. Not my words, those were Ace's words
A year later Peter was on Ace’s album Trouble Walkin’…
Yup, so they must have made amends by then.
Didnt he only play percussion on that album?
@@terryanthony5323 nah he provided backing vocals on the title track too lol
Great album.
@@LeprechaunJackson Sang on the title cut and three others.
If Peter and Ace never got strung out on drug's and booze, they would have made better career choices. Saying all that after the fact means nothing. They did overcome their problems and forged ahead and made each other millions again. Glad I saw their first reunion.
I am glad they over came their addictions. They both seem to be doing great now
Probably wouldn't have made a difference to the band. The public thought Peter was still the drummer on Unmasked and it still flopped
@@PetesCDVinylWorld you may have a point, It wasn't the drums that caused poor sales for Unmasked.
@@PetesCDVinylWorld - Unmasked flopped because of no hit. Dynasty was almost exactly the same but I Was Made was a huge hit worldwide yet Dynasty only sokd 2M copies vs other artists selling 5-10M copies. As Paul has said if you rely on hit songs you're only as good as your last hit and this is proof
They would have been fucked even if they were stone sober. Let's face it, we all love Peter but the dude really couldn't write a song If you put a gun to his head. He had a great voice but what good is a great voice without great songs? I couldn't imagine Ace being a chart-topper during the height of 80s hair metal. Heavy Music was starting to go a different way and modern rock / hair metal was more about aesthetics. And not the kind of aesthetics Ace was known for
That's some raw Peter right there. Gotta love his frankness on display here.
No. No you don’t.
I dont love lying or being delusional, no.
Wow. Peter clearly thought more highly of himself than anyone else did. Seems a little different now though. I mean, the dudes knocking 80 now.
74
@Patrick Delareuntis 77
Plus he was always an absolutely dross drummer in addition to being an absolute c**t
Great partial interview
These dudes have railroaded each other for 50 years. Lol. So many clips of each member saying terrible things about each other and so many clips of them praising one another. My conclusion is that if you’re not fond of someone, you walk away, ignore and never mention them. Kiss doesn’t really do that so I think they still care for one another much more than they convey in these type of interviews.
Where was the interview, at a bus stop?
Peter and Ace were still under contract for several years after they left and were getting paid for doing absolutely nothing...such a hard life!
Nope not Ace. Only Peter had that deal cause they wanted him out so badly and wanted him to go smoothly and not make waves, bad publicity etc. Ace was bought out (eventually) when he quit, but he didnt a retain a full share of the partnership, like Peter did.
Peter was paid until 1985 ace was not, Peter got a sweeter deal & was fired, Ace Quit
@@waltruether Peter did get a sweet deal, although they called it a "firing" he was not really fired. I don't know anyone who gets fired and continues to get paid for several years. Peter really could have said, "No, I am an equal member and not going anywhere", but he didn't, which is why they gave him a sweet deal to get him to leave!
@@JENDALL714 no-he was fired. TWICE.
Peter only retained his partnership cause they wanted him to go quietly and not make a fuss in the press. They were still huge and wanted to retain the image of ‘all for one and one for all’. Plus, I believe Bill Aucoin had a personal affection for Peter and wanted to see him treated fairly. As for Peter ‘refusing to be fired’ it doesn’t work that way-he was part of a partnership and the other partners voted him out. Period.
This interview happened about a couple years before the Star Magazine hoax, where imposter Christopher Dickinson pretended to be a homeless Peter Criss.
After reading a bunch of comments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Personally I think to many people inject themselves into situations they know absolutely nothing about instead of appreciating the 50 years of great music ALL kiss members gave us and are still giving us to this very day.. Just shows how little people really are both in stature and intellect..
Not really intellect. People are smart but the issue is people are also biased. When they feel strongly towards someone it clouds their judgement
@@brianstrutter1501 You think people are smart??
Ya know,, There is a reason we have tags on turkey basters saying ""Not for rectal use"" and on blow dryers saying ""do not use in shower""..
@@oldmanpatriot1490 - point taken. Well some people are smart and let their emotions control their actions. Others are just stupid. My bad, lol
8 years later would be the only time Peter and Ace would would make real money again, 💰 that's the thing real money doesn't come easy
Ace makes plenty of money..lol
@@rediron44 not like he did 96-2001
Kiss needed them too hence the reunion was all because Kiss was tanking and woulldnt of survived the 90;s with Kulick & singer The Carnival Of souls tour would of flopped Hard
Hey everyone. Just listen to 74-79 and ignore these old farts. Imagine they are so old have no filter and talk shit like any other grampa would but they are also artists so they take everything to heart.
This guy always vastly overstated his ability and importance.
Wouldn't really be difficult.
Peter criss the best drummer to live whom plays four to three at one time and is the sexiest from the group
I don't know if there's anything more gratifying or hilarious then watching 70's only Kiss fans/blue kool aid drinkers bend over backwards, lie, twist and contort human logic to defend Peter Criss and his supposed abilities and importance to Kiss at every turn, then CRUCIFY him the second he says anything critical of Frehley. PRICELESS.
Love kiss. Love the original lineup. But the weakest link was the loudest squeaking wheel. Chance after chance after chance.
Petey Criss angry?? Shocking! Weird how despite being such a "great drummer", he was never asked to play on anyones albums or tour with anyone. You know - like Eric Singer was.
WOW!! lol
Ouch! 😖 😂
Peter was Peter. He wouldn’t tour with anyone else. Neither would Ace. Big difference between Eric and Peter. Say what you will about his skills, he was HUGE. He wouldn’t play with another group. Silly comment.
@@DavidM-mb1vx He wouldn't play with another group? That's the dumb comment. He put something together with Mark Taint John. They couldn't get signed because they sucked. If Peter was so huge, he'd have been hired shortly after getting KissKanned.
Eric singer can find work any day of the week. He is that good
Lol! Isn't it laughable that these guys have been arguing since 1988? Some of you weren't even born yet.
Peter Criss== Napoleon complex
Pride sure does strange things to people’s minds
Peter the complainer. It's always someone else's fault. He hates his life blows all his money, and expects everyone else's to be like him.
Peter is right, Ace didn't respect him at all. Ace demanded more money than Pete for the reunion because Ace thought he was worth more.
No, not true. Ace didn't know what Pete was making. Ace just had a better agent and lawyer
Perche alla fine ACE e molto più bravo
Lose the sound effects for the "like and subscribe" (very annoying and unnecessary), otherwise, cool content!
Thanks for the suggestion.
Peter pretending he quit 😆
Peter Criss! I love him because he's the original drummer! However... Carr & Singer were much more better... yes a very different style than Peter but to each his own...
25% Gene 25% Paul 25%Ace 25%Peter......Eric carr employee Vinnie Employee mark st john employee Bruce employee Mark employee Eric Singer employee Thommy Thayer EMPLOYEE...there only one equal KISS...
@ justinfendelet8675
"...one equal KISS",
this was Paul's illusion. When he was young.
It didn't work in reality.
And most musicians are "employees", they have to work for money.
To call Tommy an "employee" sounds too pejorative!
He is a musician and he is KISS💋.
Jesus, it’s so hard to hear your childhood hero make himself look like an ass…time after time.
You're absolutely right.
Peter is a true bullshitter.
I would have liked to see the original kiss band still be together today but, it was'nt suppose to be. Why do we still talk about. Could of, should of, would of. It's over. These guys are pushing mid seventies. Rolling stones are old, do you really want to see old men trying to be young. Even the audience would be old. You can't relive your party days.
This really shows the toxic levels that Peter sank to. I’m so glad that he evolved past this anger and resentment. Love you Peter...
Haha he hasn’t evolved past this at all.
Say what?! He's an even bigger douche now.
A street punk with a million dollars, dangerous.
Why did he expect Ace to ask him to join his band? He wasnt obligated to ask him. Dumb.
Peter has always been a bitter, jealous, petty, cry-baby.
that click for subscribe makes me not subscribe lol .. its like im listening to the interview and in the middle these annoying clicks lol .. but great interview to that point.
I read on Wikipedia Ace has Dutch ancestry but he looks Asian/Native American to me.
you might be right
If I remember, hes half Cherokee Indian from his Mother's side
Whatever ace is he's one ugly sob
Ace Frehley is Part Cherokee Indian and part German and Dutch
Carl Frehley was German and Dutch and Esther had native american blood.so ace has german/dutch/native american blood.
These guys have always had drug and alcohol issues. That’s their downfall .
Good thing that never means Maybe
good thing !!
We'd make a shit load of money 💰🤑
Peter was a great drummer like him but lets be honest peter got big into coke and then wrecked his car he couldn’t play on dynasty because of injuries
Use a fucking period now and then. Damn.
Man wth is that mullet peter🤣
I know but it beats the grandma hairdo for sure.
Wow. It's no wonder Peter ended up living under a pier on the West Coast. Thank God Tom Arnold and Roseanne Barr got him off the street.
Paul said in a Q&A about Peter, he didn't need anybody shooting in his head.
Peter:"...so I don't have really anything against Paul".
No, I really don't need any Peter nostalgia.
I wouldn’t want an addict like this messing up my business.
They both sold away their power willingly and they got paid for it.
These guys are all so high on themselves. I personally don’t get it.
Just my opinion.
"We'd make a fortune" Nice SMH
Peter talking shit about ace.
No shit! Paul wrote in his first book how easily Ace let Peter down. This confirms Peter's version.
That Ace was a traitor!
And it confirms you can not trust drug/alcohol addicts.
Damn, his 80’s mullet is horrid. lol
Peter's been nothing but a whiner since day one. Best thing to happen to kiss was this clown leaving
Peter is such a cry baby
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