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A FIRE ALARM REUNION @ Pfeiffer Elementary School
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2021
- Back in 2008, Pfeiffer Elementary School's fire alarm system was one of the very first I filmed for my You Tube channel and website, Old School Fire Alarms. Construction of Pfeiffer began in 1917 and was completed and dedicated in 1919. The school was named after two brothers, Jacob and William Pfeiffer, who donated the land the school is built on. The school was originally known as, "Overlook", named after the land it was built on. It wasn't until 1919 that the school was dedicated and renamed, Pfeiffer School.
When the school was first built, a pull rod fire alarm system, using 10 inch manual trip bells was installed. In 1959 the system was updated and automated with an Autocall fire alarm control panel, using Vibratone horns as the signaling devices. The code on the control panel is the Cadence Marching Code 4-4-4-4. It was designed to assure a quick and orderly evacuation of any building.
The school as of this writing is 105 years old and was built at a time when many school buildings of this caliber were used as fallout shelters, especially during World War II. This school and fire alarm system have endured the test of time, and are examples of fine craftmanship when things were built to last.
These old fire alarm systems are actually very complex, it’s kind of neat how the whole system works in all.
Old technology is so fascinating
I agree. I grew up in the 70s.
Imagine how many kids have accidentally pulled it 😂
I'm guessing it's OVER 9000!!!!!!
my cousin has done it before trying to make me giggle by doing the pole dance and her dumbass didnt read the fire alarm sign before doing so
And got expelled from the school
My grandpa did that when he was a kid in the 1950's
It still sounds great to this day! I appreciate what you do and I hope they keep this alarm in the building for years to come.
Three words that sum up this:
"Old is gold!"
AMEN TO THAT !!!
Agreed sir!
I didn’t expect this system to return, but I’m so happy it did! As a proud owner of that exact kind of vibratone, projector and all, I love seeing the ones here active again!
I would be happy to go back to a couple of group homes in Rutland, Vermont to see the system that was installed in 1989 or 1990! (Wheelock 7002Ts and FCi FC-72 FACP)
Indeed. I'll get a Fire Alarm of my very own someday.
@@RJARRRPCGP nice
Always love seeing these videos!! May these old systems live on forever!
Thx for coming back @OldSchoolFireAlarms
I’m so happy I saw a couple of your videos were the school was abandoned I’m so glad this one is still up and running
my elementary school whittier elementary had a pull rod system that they later added extra pull stations and smoke detectors too.it also had a voice that came over the old pa system. wish i had gotten a video of it before it was demolished. had a neat ,complex setup
It bring back memories for me in the elementary school days in early 2000s
Love how those trip bells ding at the same time
ME TOO !!
Very happy to see this wonderful school building is still standing to this day and the fire alarm still there hope it stays for a long time they don't build schools like this anymore same with fire alarm don't make those anymore.
I go to that school
I’m so glad this system is still standing and sounding to this day!
This is my favourite channel. I especially like it when you explain everything so nicely. I wish you alot of success with the channel.
THANK YOU BROTHER !!!!!!!!
I've been dying to see this video!!!!!! I have to show my friends that went to this School!!!!! Thanks Old School Fire Alarms, you're an awesome TH-camr
THANK YOU !!!!!
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms You're Welcome, I was also watching this when I was at Golden Corral & Walmart today, I told one of the Golden Corral workers about this video, & she told me she would get heart attack from these alarms & I was like, "Well these Alarms are better & will get your attention very well"
HOLY heck that horn sounds sooooo goooood. I honestly like the 4x4 horns more than the trumpet ones like the simplex 4030
Awesome to see that this system is still here! I wish I had a system like this in my house so I could blast these horns on new years. Although I do have a vintage smoke alarm that sounds similar to this but except it does continuous instead of the Marching caidence 4-4-4-4
This is one system that would DEFINITELY not pass inspection today. Always nice to see vintage systems though.
That's why public schools love the "Grandfather Clause". No matter how old their systems are, they're allowed to keep them in service.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I was at an event at an old school, in order to be in better compliance with ADA they simply installed red lamps that said FIRE by the audible devices, last I checked the system was still in use and did pass inspection
@@vacexpert2020 It is very common for upgrades to be done on older fire alarm systems.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Usually cheaper than a whole new system, audible devices are usually in compliance so they just have to supplement with visual devices and maybe more pulls and smoke/heat detectors
8:43 I've always wondered where you got your channel icon from, I can't believe I finally found it
I’m impressed that this system still works even after a century!
Thank God this old school not getting demolished
I agree
i was not expecting this, thanks for providing me with some entertainment!
You are so welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I have always loved old fire alarm systems
id love alarm system like that
I just realized he filmed from the exact same position, 13 years apart.
Yes I did. You are a keen observer and pay attention to detail. Thank you for watching, most appreciated.
However, changes had been made into the scene such as someone removed the fallout shelter sign and replaced the fire extinguishers. But most of it the same after nearly 14 years.
@@relevanteaglealarms109 The Fallout shelter sign was removed because the building is no longer used as a Fallout shelter.
Nice video fine sir. Glad the school, as well as the system, are still up and running.
Thank you. I too am so happy to see the school still standing and in full operation.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Hopefully, it'll stay in operation for years to come.
Cool sound those horns make. Loud and gets attention in a heartbeat.
This is the way a fire alarm should sound. Loud and clear, not like the cheap ones that are made today.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I thought all fire alarms sounded like this until I was in 1st grade, our school happy crappy System Sensor Mass that sounded like sirens.
@@whelenvortexr4 I hate the newer fire alarm systems. Not only do they sound crappy but they are cheaply made.
That they are, my favorite alarm is the Wheelock 7002T and the old Vibratones. I've seen a lot of newer systems that aren't even 10 years old and horn strobes had to be replaced already. I have a hatred for System Sensor and anything Honeywell.
@@whelenvortexr4 I agree with you.
Sad to see the Fallout Shelter sign vanished. Nice Video!
Get observation that you noticed that. The school is no longer designated as a Fallout Shelter, that's why it was removed.
I never have heard of autocall before I remember from being in school was simplex fire alarm systems and standard fire alarm systems.
During the late and early 1900's there were many fire alarm companies; Autocall, Reiter, IBM, Edwards, Faraday, Simplex, Standard Electric Time, Honeywell, Federal Sign & Signal, just to name a few. All of these companies manufactured many different types of fire alarm systems.
this seems like a good school the age does not matter but I hope they keep it
Yes 👏👏👏 this school is still in service
There's a school in West Virginia that was built in 1912, and is still in complete active service. Although I assume they replaced their autocall fire alarm system, as now they have Wheelock-34-24s
Wheelock is another great company that makes fire alarm/signaling hardware and they have been around since the early 1900's. So it is very likely that the original fire alarm system in the school you're talking about was a Wheelock system which has been upgraded over the years. Thanks for your comment and for watching my channel.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms i was born 1991
Thought our 1960’s fire alarm was obnoxious, this one takes the prize. Our 1962 elementary just went Gaaaah!
9:43 Wow! Now the bell and the fire alarms sound way better due to the new camera's microphone you probably have now in the Reunion.
Just needs new lamps in those signs. I’d fix them myself if I lived in Ohio, used to fix ours here in PA. Such a great system.
I hope the bells and especially the dual projecter horn gets saved
One of the many schools that are surviving with their old fire alarm systems
That is interesting
The shape of this school remembers me of the tv show Recess this school has the same look as the one from the tv show.
I'll have to check that out. I never heard of that show. Thank you.
I love your videos!
THANK YOU !! Most appreciated.
Im surprised that this school is still in operation after all these years.
Is the alarm system still intact? I really hope so. This alarm system is a piece of history!
Yes, this fire alarm system and school are still in operation to this day. Thanks for watching!
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms That’s nice to know. This video was in my recommendations. I normally don’t like alarms, but old ones are an exception of course.
Truly an architectural masterpiece and a true fire alarm system that actually gets your attention, unlike the stupid cheap crap made today.
Well the “stupid cheap crap” actually gets your attention, especially the Spectralert advances. They’re almost as loud as my 7002T
@@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernILwrong, that stuff sounds like garbage and the old stuff was built way better.
Man I wish you would have checked out that main electrical room!!
Are there foot pedal versions of these alarms? If so, how do they prevent them from being activated by accident (i.e. when someone walks too close)?
No, there are not foot pedal versions for pull rod fire alarms. There are however foot pedal activated trip bells.
Hi old school fire alarms i am new to this channel i only went to new schools i only live in Washington and i want to go to a old school badly
Is this still a live building? cause if it is and still using a old autocall system thats freaking awesome
Yes, this school is still up and running and the original fire alarm system that you see in this video is still being used. Awesome for sure !!
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms That's so cool! I wonder how it still complies with modern Fire alarm system codes, is there a way you can do some kind of video on that?
@@ukfireenthusiast2301Good question and the answer is quite simple. This particular fire alarm system, as with many other older systems in old schools, DOES NOT comply with today's fire alarm regulations and/or codes. It is due to what is legally known as the "Grandfather clause" that allows public schools to continue using their old fire alarm systems. As long as they (the fire alarms) are still in good working order, the schools are allowed to keep using them. I know it sounds crazy but it is true. I would say that 98% of the fire alarm systems you see in my videos do not comply with current codes and regulations. Only when a new school is built or an older school upgrades their fire alarm system does the school district need to comply with the most current regulations/codes. Since this is a legal issue, doing a video on this particular topic would be boring for most people. There just isn't a whole lot of material to do such a video. If you want more information, I would research, Grandfather clauses, regarding legal use.
Sup fire alarm enthusiast! This is ur editor! I am just asking when u r gonna be planning on uploading another vid
I hope to do another one before the end of November this year.
Finally: one school you visit that _isn't_ scheduled for demolition sometime in the future (not yet anyway). Nice to see the original fire alarm system still serving the school well, though if the building _is_ threatened with demolition in the future, I *implore* you to save _everything_ from the system.
4:29 I believe smoke detectors were not yet a thing at the time of this panel's manufacture & installation: the ionization smoke detector was developed around the mid 1960s by Duane D. Pearsall & Stanley Bennett Peterson of Statitrol Corporation, while the photoelectric smoke detector was developed around the early 1970s by Donald Steele & Robert Emmark of ESL (Electro Signal Lab).
One interesting thing about those supposedly-Autocall-rebranded Federal Signal Vibratones; they appear to have _two_ PR single projectors on them, connected by some kind of "dual mounting piece", even though Federal Signal probably made a "PR2" dual projector at the time as well.
Thank you for watching and your comments. Actually, the first smoke detectors have been around since the late 1890's. George Andrew Darby patented the first heat and smoke detector in 1902 in Birmingham, England. The first commercial smoke detector was introduced in the United States in 1951 and was ionization technology. Autocall, Edwards, Fire-Lite, and several other companies all made heat and/or temp thermal detectors going back into the 1940's.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Yes, I know heat detectors were a thing decades before smoke detectors were, but when it comes to Darby's detector; it might have been invented in 1902, but it might not have started being used right away (on top of that I'm going by US fire protection history of course). Never heard of a 1950s-era smoke detector though, especially as neither modern-day detection principle (ionization & photoelectric) had been invented yet.
@@TheCarson116 There is a lot of information and history about both heat and smoke detectors. Just Google it if you haven't already. I should have stressed that it was heat and thermal detectors that came out in the 50's, not smoke detectors. As you said, the smoke detectors didn't become popular until the late 60's and 1970's.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Mhm.
Ah, yes, that's what I thought (though they weren't invented until then).
That’s incredibly loud.
The High School I Recently Graduated From Was Built In 1963 In Pennsylvania But The High School Will Eventually Have The System Sensor L Series
I heard recently the district has this school as well as Miller south slated to be closed in the coming years.
That is true.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarmsalso unsure if you’re aware, but the old Central-Hower school that is now owned by the University of Akron has an old coded system from 1974. It does a 2-2 code from a Simplex model 4247, which has been modernized and tied into a newer Simplex panel (model 4100 ES), that provides mass notification speakers on the third floor that the University of Akron utilized while Crouse Hall was being rebuilt. I am hoping to take a video of the system going off soon, as I work with the University’s emergency management personnel.
I was in that building years ago when Akron U first acquired the building. At that time it was just the 4247 Simplex panel that was installed. Thanks for the update. @@sirenfreak57
that alarm, RIP THE KIDS EARS..
Are those rebadged federal signal 350 horns with projectors?
Yes they are. Very good observation on your part.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I don’t think those came out until around 1960, the patent was filed in 1959. I could be wrong but I don’t know for sure.
@@1996ChevroletImpalaSS I would agree. that time frame is close enough.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms probably from the early 60s if I had to guess
What's that wire that runs through the top of the second floor? The one that runs along the arches.
It wasn't there in your previous video here
That is a keen observation on your part. I never even noticed that before. If I were to guess, those wires and/or cables have something to do with computers.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms interesting
finally u uploaded again
Did you ever end up getting that 2001-8001 from Garfield high?
Yes I did. That control panel is in storage waiting to find a new home.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms wow that’s cool! How much would it be out of curiosity?
@@FourtyFiftyEighty That particular Simplex panel is $650 plus the cost of shipping.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms cool! Maybe someday ill buy it
how were you allowed to use the alarms
Why does this look like the school from "Kindergarten Cop"?
You're a halfway decent cameraman Neo.🧐
Is this the last school that has the auto call fire alarm
No, there are actually 2 schools in the Akron Public School district that have Autocall systems. Pfeiffer and Firestone elementary schools.
Is it just one horn on each floor?
Yes, plus a horn in the gym/cafeteria.
I go to that school
So there is only one horn for each floor? They must be very loud then!!!
Yes, that is correct. One dual horn for each floor.
I don’t get why they demolish these schools usually. Why not and turn them into historic museums or landmarks?
There are many different reasons why these older school buildings end up getting demolished. It usually boils down to money.
Are any of the old fallout shelter supplies still stashed away in the basement?
No. This building is no longer used as a Fallout shelter.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms That makes sense. All the buildings I've been to that once had fallout shelters were emptied long ago. I've found a few Civil Defense water drums they forgot to throw out, during fire inspections.
lol I play soccer in that field
Sounds like a Simplex 4050 fire alarm. I can tell from listening to the horn.
The horns are not Simplex 4050's. Watch the video starting at 9:09.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Then What kind of horns are those?
@@erikthepirate8068 Watch the video at 9:09 and you will find out, unless you are hearing impaired.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Indeed.
@@neohistoryfan1014 I might.
Are there only 3 horns in this school?
There are 4 horns total. One on each of the three floors and one in the gym.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Yeah, that makes sense.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarmsfour horns yet it still alerts better than 50+ modern horn strobes in a modern junk system.
Absolutely, I couldn't agree more.@@theray2009
That video was recorded this past summer?
Interior shots were filmed this past summer 2021. The exterior shots were filmed in the Spring of this year.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I first thought the washing signs I saw in the hallway had to do with COVID 19.
@@sigglass2183 It does, COVID is still going-on. It never left.
@@neohistoryfan1014 You got that right.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Did you have to wear a Mask when you were in the Building?
0:19 he pulls the fire alarm
Why are there trip bells?
When the school was first built in 1919, trip bells were originally installed as the fire alarm system. In the 1950's the system was updated with an electric Autocall fire alarm system. The trip bells were left in place in case of an electrical outage.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms so the bell would ding once and everyone would know to evacuate, or would someone be there to repeatedly pull it down and up?
@@Northern_Fire_Security Anyone could activate the pull rod. For every pull of the rod, the trip bell on each floor would ring. You can pull the rod as many times as you want. For a fire drill the rod was usually pulled for about 10 to 20 seconds ringing the bell at least 10 times. Again, this was before electric fire alarms were commercially available.
School still operational?
Yes, this school is still operational.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Could you do a video of your fire alarm collection?
@@theray2009 That would take way too long.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms What alarms do you have?
@@theray2009 Autocall, IBM, Faraday, Edwards, Simplex, Federal Sign & Signal, Rieter, Standard Electric Time. Many different models from all the companies mentioned.
I see the fallout shelter sign has been removed
Yea, I noticed that too when I went back to make this new video.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I suppose there wasn’t an immediate need for the shelter anymore.
@@TexasRailfan2008 Yes, I'm thinking the same thing.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms do you know if the simplex 4246-2 panel can operate by itself? The one on your website has 2 other (extension?) panels with it. I just purchased one off of eBay.
@@TexasRailfan2008 Yes, it can work by itself.
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