Post DUCK SEASON Shell Review!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- I share with you the good, bad, and ugly of every shell I tested out this duck season. Hope it helps!
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Great table talk. Agree on the choke thing. Been using my factory choke for years. Thanks again Titus. 👍🏼🦆
Thanks for watching all the way in New Mexico
Get a müller choke and you’ll never go back
This man at 5:30 IS PREACHING. Not even just for Duck Hunting either. He needs to be giving seminars to 80% of the BowHunting world as well.
Agreed
So many after market chokes are trash too, I couldn't buy anything but Carlson's or Muller.
Agreed, I cringe anytime Dick's is the only local store that has a product.
I'm from PA. I just wanted to ask what's wrong with dicks sporting goods? I just think it's funny so many people hate dicks and I'm just curious.
@@jacobpossessky9154 they're generally "anti gun". They banned the sale of AR15s. Our local Dick's does not sell and firearms or ammo....
writing here in 2021, i patterned federal blue box out of my beretta a300, with modified factory choke, Awesome. you sir, are spot on.
I agree with your dialogue in regard to finding the correct shot for your choke; keep a constant (your choke) and test one variable independently (your shotshells) at a time. Like shooting rifles, you may have the same model in the same caliber as a buddy, but what shoots well through his gun, may not be what will shoot well through yours. Finding the correct bullet weight and manufacturer may be a royal pain, but chances are one or a few will prove to be best suited for your firearm.
Your videos are literally my favorite thing to watch these days. Great vids mvm
Appreciate that!
Nice review and great channel. You put a lot of money up in shells to make something useful for the common everyday hunter! Thanks dude
Thanks man.
I thought after market chokes were just another gimmick until I tried jebs chokes. Those things are the real deal, the Turkey choke and duck chokes throw very impressive patterns
With the black cloud you're supposed to usr a special choke because its a different wad that opens backwards. But I agree with you that your normal factory choke is just fine and find a good shell that works with your gun. Black cloud 3" #3 patterned like garbage out of my mossy 500 with factory mod choke. I love the work you put into all your pattern testing videos and it motivated me to do my own testing!
I’ve heard that about the black clouds. Glad it’s motivating others cuz I thought it was dumb before but now I think it’s dumb not doing it
Thanks for video, always enjoy your input. I like federal speed-shok blue box out of my Mossberg 835 , but always enjoy testing different shells. The Remington nitro steel shot good out of my A300 outlander.
Great video Titus I appreciate your after the season thoughts. I’ve decided to go with hevi metal 3s, thanks for the reviews.
Thanks. Those are deadly ☠️
Me and my grandpa used to used Remington Peters shells and reload them with 6mm copperhead/daisy bbs. Takin ducks and geese down like a boss. #BringBackRemingtonPeters
I like the Kent fast steel, and the Remington sportsman out of my gun. I just get whichever I can get a case of. Usually end up with a mix of the two in my bag I couldn’t tell you which performs best. If I’m in a bind I’ll buy a cheap box of Winchesters and I do think they perform well but I’ve had several hulls split hasn’t caused an issue but dirties the gun bad
I hunted for years with Remingtons. More often than not an aftermarket choke will help. On the other hand all of the chokes that came with my Benelli work well. I love Patternmaster chokes. They were great in my 870's. At some point I will buy one for my M2. Right now I have a lot of needs that come before that want.
I think you should try a Rio
they good also the federals are on sale so get them fast
Ever try Remington Nitro Steel? What are your opinions?
Hevi X is the best shell on the market. They are expensive as all heck but I spend good money to go duck-hunt and when I get a drake mallard or big drake sprig in range I wanna dish rag it not blow feathers out of it. Can’t stand a bird sailing on Me either. I shoot a 20 with the 4’s and it covers everything from teal to large honkers. When the teal are really in thick I switch to hevi steel and save the hevi x. Also when shooting the 12 gauge the hands down best load I’ve ever shot is a black cloud 23/4” 3 shot 1500 FPS. Absolutely murder stuff with that load. Put to shame all my buddies shooting 3.5” shells.
Good little review. I’ve also shot all the shells you’ve listed in this vid. These days I just stick with one brand or two at the most. Find them on sale and buy
cases. Testing all those diff shells and mixing and matching and playing the “best shell game” a box at a time gets just as expensive as buying the good premium shells you know work at discounts in cases 👍🏽
Thanks man. Yes, now that I’ve found the load I like I will def be buying it by the case like I always did. This year I wanted to do something different. I really like Dryloks. Hevi X is awesome
Yea, I think the factory chokes shoot great. I did buy an aftermarket improved modified, because when we went diver hunting I needed something a little tighter for those 30-40 yard shots. It came in a two pack so I'll have to try a comparison vid or something. Thanks for sharing.
Ya I’d def like to see a video of that
I barely miss with Remington hypersonic, but they tend to jam in my gun.
I’ve found the federal blue box also shoots the best from my gun and my son’s gun. The word must be out because all the shelves around me here in WI are bare of those but you can find others types.
There is a certain type of shell and choke for every scenario. If you're hunting ducks that are in your face or hunting divers that are fast, low and far. The pattern criteria changes with the type of hunt. And shotguns ALWAYS get dirty and you should ALWAYS clean your firearms after every hunt.
Great video thanks for the input... And I agree you gotta find the shells your gun likes
Buy a pattern master classic extended range. Big shot tighter patterns small shot bigger patterns forget shooting black cloud because of the wads. I've seen the shot not even come out of the wad when shot. This choke is the best all around tube there is. I've tested a lot aim tight and give em the smack down
Agree it’s all about trial and error and seeing what does best I’ve only ran stock chokes in my Steoger LongFowler double barrel and it really likes Kent Fast Steel 2.0 and Federal Black Cloud and for me it has killed birds dead before hitting the ground. Great video btw!!!
Thanks!
I've had really good luck with the Super X and the Kent Fast steel 3" BB for geese and I do use an aftermarket choke. I do clean my guns alot during season just because I've always done that. Different opinions aren't a problem for me.
It's all about Sportsman's Warehouse. They have a great gun selection and ammo selection. That's where I bought my A5. I also live in Cali and refused to visit Dick's Sporting Goods.
My overall best loads have 3 inch #2 hevi steel but I was also shooting a hevi shot extended range out of my stoegers m3500. Hevi metal is a bird duster plain and simple. Knocks the snot out of birds.
Loved the review. I shoot a Mossberg 935 and it shoots the 3 inch Remington Hi Speed Steel #2 the best in both Modified and Full stock choke tubes. I also tried the Carlson's Black Cloud .727 Extended range choke tube. It patterned fairly well but the Mossberg full choke .730 stock choke shot better patterns at 40 yards. I just purchased a Carlson's Mid Range .743 and will be testing that with various 3 inch shells in the near future. I found with the the same problem Titus did which was finding a dealer that had a good supply of the Remington Hi Speed Steel. My local Sportsman's Warehouse ran out just after the season opened and didn't resupply until MARCH !!!!
Thanks for all the info William! Good stuff. Sportsman’s here is def not good at restocking
I shoot the browning A5 and I really like the Remington hyper sonic. I've shot them for the last two seasons and I like them.
That’s good to know
Good info Titus 👍🦆
I’ve found that paintball barrel cleaners fit perfect in a 12 gauge and it cleans the barrel perfect but it has to be the longer exalt one with the fluffy end
Even though it's a year later, still a great video. Good info..thank you, sir! 🦆
When it comes to aftermarket choke, people buy them because guy like shooting full chokes and xfull choke and companies makes tight Construction chokes rated for steel shot Especially with bigger pellets.
I’m a little late to this video but.. your theory about aftermarket chokes is correct. I bought a code black duck from patternmaster and it shot alright but my factory choke shot better.
I agree with you on the Hevi-Metal. They hammer birds with quick kills long as I do my part. I do feel the newer lots are twice as dirty as the original case I bought. Not sure if it's a coincidence or if they've changed powders, primers or what but the last case I bought was horribly dirty. Definitely left me scratching my head with them. However the gun still cycles and goes bang so guess I'll have to clean more often lol. Keep up with the vids enjoy real world honest opinions even if they aren't what I'm expecting. That's how we grow and learn as hunters and every other part if life.
Well said Glen. I haven’t felt they were dirtier yet but I don’t know why they changed the original cuz I liked them a lot
I shoot my chokes that came with my guns but also love the after market chokes. My best one last year was the code black duck more like a tight modified, my second best was the Carlson mid range, and long range. I have found that full choke like the kicks high flyer full worked well and code black goose. I don't think any shell brand is totally clean I have heard Winchester of all kinds are dirty. Kent and federal have cleaned up their shells supposedly. My favorites have been federal blue box, Kent fasteel, rio, Remington nitro mags. I'm trying others this season. Finally Remington sportsman have filler pellets in them, I liked them but cut one open and didn't like that.
I’ve heard that
I use that Winchester super x large duck 2 shot 20 gauge for goose hunting but I want to buy Kent fast steel or hevi mental. You re so serious about loads
I’ve enjoyed your patterning videos and have had good luck with some of the same shells you have liked. That being said, every gun is different and some shells that shot like shit for you have patterned well for me at 40 yards. Everyone needs to pattern their own guns! Videos like this can point you in certain a direction, but nobody knows how their gun shoots unless they put it on paper!
Have you tried Rio BlueSteel? Cheap and shot clean and really good pattern out of my shotgun with mod. choke.
I have. I like them
Shot a whole case of them on 2 week hint in north Dakota. Killed bird stoned in 25mile wind.
Bro they say choke this and choke that. But factory chokes are JUST as good. People who think these extended chokes are magical are just smoking crack
Good video,good tips when are you coming back out with the duck camo hat and youth t-shirts.
Thanks. Hopefully soon 🙏🏼
My Beretta factory choke patterned Herters 3" 3s really well
Try the kent bismuth (or any bismuth for that matter) with a factory full choke. It reacts to choking similar to lead. Choke it IM or F.
Lotta work you put in there buddy. Thanks. I still like my Kent Fast Steels. One of the few shells I can still shoot a 2 3/4" #2 and do well.
Thanks. I shot 2 3/4 and did fine honestly.
I miss the day when four free cases of Spectra Shot came to the door.. I’m not holding my breath for another opportunity like that though lol
That would be sweet for sure
Love the kent shells, drop snow geese, Canadas and everything duck i shoot like a champ, i use the factory benelli chokes, but i also second the fiocchi shells are junk...they jam my gun (super black eagle) and dont hit a bird any harder than throwing a pillow at them.
I like the Remington sportsman in #2 shot, I also like the Rio blue steel in #2 shot as well they both pattern very well in my Remington 870. You should try the Rio blue steel in your gun would be interesting to see how they pattern in the A5
When I find them again I def will
I agree with you there too. I have chokes that pattern both those loads well. One was custom made to shoot the Remington Sportsman. But it shoots a lot of shells well.
+1 on the rio bluesteel #2’s. They quit making them I believe. I think all they have now is #3’s and smaller. That’s all I could order from my local store and Rogers for the last 2 years anyway.
@@oneshot000123 I bought a case this last season. Pretty sure they're still in production, unless 2018 was the last year. They are still listed on there website.
I guess I got lucky. I bought a SBE3 last week, ran to academy, grabbed 2 boxes of hevi steel 3s and from what I could tell it messed up the birds bad. I did have 2 cripples but I’m blaming it on me not being completely on the bird.
I had to get an aftermarket choke, because I like to shoot full chokes for pretty much everything. And it is not safe to shoot steel out of factory full chokes.
I’m cheap and shot the Herters and the blue box federal. Liked them both
I love Dryloks
I have had an odd amount of success with Remington Sportsman as well
That looks like my inventory of waterfowl shells. I shoot everything. I know I should stick to one brand but when I see them I buy them.
In this day and age you pretty much have to
I found the super x and the rem sportsman to be great shells, liked them a lot more than the fasteel and half the price, being cheap finally paid off for me! Cool video Titus, hope the camo hats get back in stock soon👍
Ya hard to beat super x. Thanks! Hopefully we’ll have camo hats back in a month or so
hey, question to not only the uploader but everyone else who reads this, what about reloading your own shotgun shells? like reloading them with number 1, 2, or 3 shot, possibly even BB shot?
hevi metal all day!! been sooting them for 3 years now. nice video buddy.
Love Hevi Metal 3” 4 shot. Thanks!
With the black cloud old orange and black box federal black cloud 1450fps #2, # 4 shot 3 inch i want to say 90% of my birds fall dead i also like them hypersonic remington 1700fps id like to try that browning box of bullets tho cuz i got a browning gold hunter ive had it since 2011 2012 used it all ghe way through 2019 now i got a winchester sx4 just got it late 2k19
I heard about the shells. Your honest review was great. But, What kind of gun are you shooting? What make and model is it? and what type of choke do you use? If you use different guns or different chokes for ducks or goose? Thank you
Browning a5. Kicks high flyer modified
I use the blue box Kent bismuth for a Economic non tox turkey load and I’ve had great success.
About $1.10 per shell
Killed lots of birds out to 40 yards
Ya I liked them
Awesome review!
Did you try Boss shells?
Ive shot the kent faststeel and the Blind side out of my benelli super Vinci with just the choke tube I got with the gun and have found the blindside patterns a lot better and kills the ducks better overall than any of the kent shells ever have. Im hoping to buy a case of Hevi metal shells for this coming waterfowl season to test those out as well!
I have a friend who has the super Vinci I’ll have to pass that on to them. Good luck with the Hevi-metals
It depends on where you live, the altitude, shot density, load power, material of shot, combustion rate, gun it's being shot out of and knock down power, wex super x in 1550 speed bb-6 are about the only shell I think are any good in my 1100.
At the end of the day if your landing birds feet down at 10 yards any shell will do even 2 3/4. Giving hevi steel a try for 115 a case
Yep
Funny, just watched another patterning video of yours and said pretty much the same thing about Hypersonic in my comment to you.
I always want to test different shells too, but shells are expensive out here in rural Alaska due to shipping prices.. I’ve grown up on the Remington sportsman since they’re the cheapest here, but last year I tried Winchester super x like what many of my buddies use, I hated them shells for some odd reason.
I also shoot the federal blue box out of my 10 gauge and they hammer birds with 2s and BBB
I shoot a weatherby sa08 with factory full choke and black cloud.. I rolled birds from 40-50 yards out stone dead this season. I also plan on trying boss shotshells next season, I would consider giving them a look.
Ya I’d like to shoot boss shotshells but unless they bring into Ca in local stores I won’t be able to cuz of the laws in Ca
Work with what we got. Love that.
The choke that came with my gun wasn’t for steal shot for some reason and almost blew my barrel up😬
Some good case prices right now at Rogers Sporting goods. Browning has a $50 dollar rebate which makes theirs $100 a case or $10 a box.
That’s a good deal
Fasteel 2.0 is awsome
I shoot what ever 2 3 4 shots I can find and I don’t even know what choke I got in a cheap Mosberg and still kill ducks plan on upgrading
I is a factory choke and herter shells are the stir from a stoeger no ducks or geese get away
I like those Remington hyper sonic steel but they do have a very high velocity which is not good for the barrel sadly! I liked the power with them but the exit velocity is really high. So federal blue box is probably my favorite
Ya like federal blue box too
Ho! I have a full case of Hypersonic! Why it is not good for the barel? Does any arms manufactures said that? Thanks for your videos!
I found why: www.fieldandstream.com/truth-about-high-velocity-shotgun-shells/
Thanks again
@@peterjazz8315 yeah what you read and just kinda the increased speed has just more pressure on the barrel and what not wearing it out more. And some chokes won’t hold up to it. I consider anything above 1500 high velocity
I have a pile of different shells trying to decode what I like best. So far blue box federal.
Factory choke tubes are not made for steel shot period!
I’ve been trying to find hevi hammer. I wanna try them. I shoot a a300 beretta outlander
Hevi Metal was the ticket. Key word was. They changed the recipe for them. I don’t like them anymore which is unfortunate. Maybe it’s my gun but I feel it’s probably the shell.
Dam brother money is so tight can i get what you dont want lol
“They’re dirty” #1 reason I don’t use a gas gun. Waterfowl hunting is dirty… if you can’t use your gun after dropping it in the mud then it isn’t worth a damn on a duck hunt. Inertia all day.
Try some of the slower shells better patterns kill birds. Speed kills patterns sometimes.
I'd like to know your thoughts on the Kent's Fasteel 2.0 vs the original Fasteel. The 2.0s pattern very well out of my Franchi Affinity with a Patternmaster. The price point on them is also very nice. For a cheaper option the Scheel's brand Fiocchis aren't terrible either although I haven't had much experience with how well they kill ducks yet.
I’ve never compared them side by side. Kent is good but they were really dirty for me. So was federal
If you ever do it again you should take a look at the boss shotgun shells
Ya if they come to CA would love to. Can’t have ammo shipped here anymore
👍thanks
Love this videos about shells keep them coming and how do I get that hat?
Thanks man! We’re sold out of them right now but we’ll get some more in soon.
Benelli Supernova with some Winchester Super-X 3” 3-Shot
I notice when looking at 3" Drylock, they offer different oz. loads with varying velocities. My question is when looking at #3 shot you have two choices, one being 1 3/8 oz. @ 1300fps and the other being 1 1/4 oz. @ 1450fps. What load combination makes a better or more effective combination. Thanks
I know it’s been a year, but my opinion, take with a grain of salt, is that you use them for different applications. With your heavier load, you’re going to be going a lot slower but the mass of BBs in your shell is much greater. If you’re out hunting larger, slower, harder to knock down birds (Canada’s) the heavier load would work better. If you’re hunting small ducks and faster birds, the faster, lighter shot is going to be more effective and you don’t have to lead as much.
Take as you will. Not saying you should or shouldn’t use #3 shot for geese or ducks. You could ask 50 different people and get 50 different answers.
Black carbon as powder or?
Love the vids! I have both a pattern master and wadwizard choke. I have found I get solid patterns with any shells Under 1450fps. Fiocchi, rio, heavy steel and federal blues smoke the birds! I do admit I prefer tight chokes in most situations. Just personal preference. Great work and love the podcasts as well.
Thanks!
What shot size do you use for duck hunting from small to big ducks?
6 shot bismuth all the way around
Can you do a video on your top 3 favorite shells?
👍🏼👍🏼
can you elaborate as to why you "shouldn't shoot shells that fast out of a shotgun."? I've never heard that statement before.. i shoot high velocity blindside and love them. Box shows 1675fps. just a hair slower than the shells you mention at the beginning.
A lot of tests are showing blown patterns. Some guys are having issues with their barrels getting bulged.
I want to duck hunt with you I’m new and need someone to show me the way😂
We put a lot of videos out trying to help those that are new. Check out Duck hunting tips for Tuesday playlist.
Try rio blue steel
I swear Kent’s are just bad in general I know I’m not a great shot but I wounded a bird with them and then had to water swat it 10 times and then I switched the black clouds and I was shooting doubles almost every time
First jam out of my CZ was a Kent! Definitely Dirty shells!
Not good
I really like the field and strem ammo, but i also hate supporting dicks, every year dicks has a 20% everything sale, so i was getting them for like $7 a box and trap loads for $4 a box. You should also check the Rio shells from Rogers, there only like $90 and case and there awesome.
Thanks for the review. You didn't mention Hevi x and I know you shot them. They did not pattern well. Keep up the videos I enjoy them.
I totally forgot to mention. I did like them. Very good knockdown! Thanks
The thing about hevi x, I think, is you use an IC choke. Crazy but if youre putting it thru full its not going to be good.
If you can be patient and get them in range anything will take down duck and practice shooting and use your factory chokes and learn them don't like factory chokes get aftermarket and learn it. Learn to shoot and learn to be patient is the most important. What's with complaining about dirty rounds I shot the cheapest to expensive I have never cleaned my gun in middle of season I have super Vinci 2 3/4 3 1/2 cleaned it at beginning of season and never cleaned till end of season no problems ever in fact I don't think I have ever had to clean my shotties but once before season that goes for my Nova pump or my super Vinci dirty lol I know people that have shot there guns for several seasons before they clean them and they shoot alot autos and pumps .and I know some that went seasons without clean and had little problems then cleaned them and they worked flawlessly and very seldom did any of us have crippled birds it happens .but shouldn't happen often if you know your gun and you practice and get your birds in range and have learned how to lead them or follow you should be able to kill birds with the cheapest of dirty rounds as you call some rounds sure some are dirtier than othere but I have yet had malfunction in the field because of dirty ammo that I had to clean my gun after one day or ten days or whole season. Just saying I'm sure there are plenty guy out there that are not having these kind of problems not saying some of the guys or myself are marksman but we do practice and we do work our birds in close and we seldom have any cripples to hunt down.
People act like chokes are extreme high tech. There is way more engineering and variables in a shell than a choke tube, my winchesters factory modified and full choke shoot better than more than half of the after market chokes. Fiiochi has some that are from scheels and they are the best patterning shells i shoot and they are cheap. The only expensive shells i like are heavy-shot, and black cloud. I shoot Winchester sx4 with a kicks highflier modified, only aftermarket choke that has been worth spending any extra money on for me.
I agree.