1972 Anaheim Kingsmen: First DCI Champions / Old School Drum Corps
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- Old school drum corps at it's finest! This is the performance of the first DCI champions 1972 Anaheim Kingsmen!
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Listening to this drumline when I was little (especially the timps) made me want to be in a corp so badly!!! Then in 2007 (when I was 14) I was offered a spot on the timpani line for the kingsmen alumni corp! I got to march timpani alongside my dad at the rose bowl!!! Best experience of my life!!!
Same here, bro. Grew up listening to Drum Corps with my older brothers, both snare drummers. I marched tymp in 78 (14yo too) with Simplex Minutemen, tymp solo 2nd drum solo. Never forget World Open and that huge crowd! We were Class A. Won GNE circuit that year. Indescribable!
I marched with the Kingsmen 70 - 71 and 72. 50 years ago. 68 now. Thanks for sharing this video! So grateful. Keith McDuff
I saw them that year. First corps I could describe as having a "symphonic" sound. Loved them!
DCI's 1st Champion! a great performance! in a way it was the end of an Era and the beginning of another! Excellence in performing still exist today,although i'd see some marching tymps again! A retro show to pay homage to our Drum Corps roots!
To those DC people today, it should be noted that the small, and what appears to be insignificant, "movements" (such as the flags keeping with the rhythm in the concert and at the close, and the rifles doing a little 'jig' at one point) were UNHEARD OF, for the most part in those days, which is one reason that this show resonated so well on the East Coast. It was different, yet held strong to the drum corps basics of the time. This is a great video of drum corps history. Thanks for posting!
I was in the Golden Knights back in 1972.
That year, the Anaheim Kingsmen were the best thing
I had ever seen. I was blown away
by their show- it was perfect.
And don't get me started on their rifle
squad, OMG! Incredible!
Thanks for the posting
Watching it now helps me remember
why I thought the Anaheim Kingsmen were so great.
The most precise rifle line ever. Great tunes. Super snare line. This show is so much better than almost all of the current DCI shows. It was an honor and a privilege to march in the Kingsmen Alumni Corps.
I always love Anaheim Kingsmen newto, especially their brass line. In fact, they were flawless in every caption, percussion especially, the marched superbly with a great drill design. And their overall show and total GE was off the charts. As good as Santa Clara was, I consider the Anaheim Kingsmen considerably better. They always had a more sophisticated and difficult music show to perform than Santa Clara, and the Kingsmen did it superbly.
I think 27th lancers rifle line would have something to say about that
I beg to differ. Both The Guardsmen and Lancers displayed amazing rifle lines in the late 70s to early 80s. Just watch the Lancers' show from 1980. Absolutely the best guardwork I've ever seen.
Musically, that show would win again!!!
Enjoyable show for it's time, but no one in that corps could even make it into a modern corps. The level of musicianship is a whole other order of magnitude now
It was surely a different time, you probably weren't even born when they won! Who did you march with and when?
Really? This is a typically short-sided opinion of someone that believes talent is directly proportional to technology. The level of equipment now is far superior to what existed in 1972. I would like to see a modern corps perform using only what was available in 1972. Try playing a single piston bugle keyed in G, then play a three valve Bb trumpet, and then make your statement regarding musicianship. Talented is talented, regardless of era or equipment.
Gary Gruzz are you saying that he can't have an opinion because he didn't march then? That's like saying that you can't rate a politician unless you are a politician. It's stupid and doesn't make sense. He can still judge this show and voice his opinion.
Whoa...hold on there partner!!!! I was a classically trained French Horn player...Principal Horn in Wind Ensemble and Orchestra in college and a pro for many years...toured with several name bands (Carpenters, Rita Coolidge) and did 3 summer seasons in the LA Phil. I came out of retirement in 72 to be a part of the push to the DCI Championship.
My dad Ed Slauson was part of the timpani line in 1972. Unfortunately he passed away when I was very young, and we never had the opportunity to have any discussions about music. This really is special to see what he was a part of. Thank you.
So sorry for the loss of your dad at such a young age. You can be very proud of him they were one of the greatest templates in the activity and then winning the first DCI World Championship. May he rest in peace I am a former member of the Laurel and sunrises 1964 through 1968, and I have lost many of my friends that I marched with, I started in the activity in 1956, as a snare drummer. There's a huge Real Drum and bugle Corps up in heaven I understand, eventually we will all end up in the sky with all of these other angels and join them in the drum and bugle Corps, in heaven today January 13th 2024
I was a member of the Kilties that night. Kingsmen had the crowd on their feet from start to finish. Forty-two years later, I still get goose bumps.
The members from all the corps, East Coast, Midwest, Mountains and West Coast were fantastic. I had a lot friends with all and would like to thank not only the members of each corps, but the fans that supported the activities.
Right there with ya La Rue!!! (The Dreck)
King of Kings still gives me goosebumps.
Great arrangement of Sing, Sing, Sing, as good as the Skyliners and Sunrises played it. Ray Mallen, great mellophone player formerly of St. Lucy's was in Kingsmen brass line on mellophone.
Wait now !!! Having marched in all the Major Competitions in 1971 I got to see the Kingsmen as they struggled with this routine, lots of cracked notes through out the routine, However none the less they always placed favorably and were entertaining I loved everything about their show the horn line, the Rifles, the flags the Drum line , and knew if they kept it in tack for 72 that they would be untouchable they did and they were this was perfection not a weak spot in that Corp, best rifle line ever,no cracks and the power in that horn line, And and as I marched in 72 I got to see the perfection up close. and as Good as the DCI show was My favorite was the 72 CYO in Boston boy did they nail it there had the crowd standing half way through the off the line unbelievable. so with all that said Great Job 71-72 kingsmen
It's fun to watch this then go to Carolina Crown's 2013 show and watch how this activity evolved
Some things have evolved , and somethings have de-evolved , or been lost ...
The rifle line was about as perfect as any since , and the drumline made many ripples and backsticking moves throughout the show (we can't see very well in this video .)... that made this show a lot of what won them the championship .
The last time I saw a drumline doing any of these things more than a few notes might be the 1978 Northstar drumline .
Even though this is 40+ years ago , listen again to the hornline ... these guys were the Carolina Crown of hornlines of the time. Not many 'ticks' in their execution at all and many parts of the music where challenging as anything today .
It devolved. Visual designers and judges with no art degrees or knowledge. total quacks especially Carolina crown. That isnt a drum corps, its an outdoor color guard.
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I played with the San Diego golden Statesmen in 1972. We never did well in major competition since we only had about 40 bugles . I remember the Calif State Championship in 1972 though where the Golden Statesmen beat the Kingsman with high drums and high color guard. But the bugles with our weak sound absolutely sucked.
I remember Statesman Snare Drummer Mike Elerby and Timpani tom Mike Hunter with John Varner soprano bugle played with the Kingsman that 1972 season during the summer.
It's great to relive this amazing time for Drum Corp.
I had just got home from being stationed in Japan, honorable discharge from active USN to the USNR, SeaBees, this was my first corps show being back in the USA and seeing this DCI thing ?
And No Props or Electrics !
Went to school using the GI Bill and then made a military Army Career.
My brother and I played in a few WI junior corps, but the best times were with the Kenosha WI Kingsmen. A senior corps that looking back maybe ? was one of the first all age corps !
Whitewater WI Always a great location for a corps show
Came here to get my annual "old school" Drum Corps fix for the season! (Fantastic!)
Same here. This is in a class that doesn't exist any more.
If I had to march on that field, I'd cry. There is only one line down the middle. That... is scary...
The standard drum and bugle corps field allowed only the single 50 yard line stripe, the end zone stripes, and the out-of-bounds markers. All corps were required to enter from the left end zone (from the press box perspective), and exit from the right end zone, usually closing with a turn back to the stands and a final fanfare. These designs leaned heavily on hyper-precise step lengths by the colorguard members, principally the flag bearers, to provide guide spots on the field for the rest of the corps members to align to. The more sophisticated designers would use the flags for primary positioning, and then variously use other corps members at some points to serve the same function ("OK, Joe, your 16th step after the last note of 'When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again' will place you next to the leftmost contrabass bugle"). Drill designs of the day were fairly primitive by modern standards, as they tended to be a bit choppy and did not flow very well. The Kingsmen were among the more innovative groups of the day, and the 1972 show hinted at the changes that were coming, with more emphasis on flowing patterns, smooth transitions, and greater creativity. Within a few years all of the California corps, leaders in that sort of innovation, became masters of flowing drill forms, and it caught on in the rest of the country. Modern drill is based on the individual "dot", with people guiding not on just flags, but on everything that is going on around them continuously, including the field, the flags, other members, etc., and the complexity of the writing is such that computer programs are used to accomplish the task. The roots of all of this are in the great performances of yesteryear, and the Kingsmen of 1972 are nothing short of legendary. My favorite show by them was from 1974, when they scored higher than their championship year, but only placed 3rd.
Jim O'Donnell what can you tell me about rules differences from that era compared to now. Obviously no amplification or electronics, only bell-front brass in G (piston/rotor being typical in ‘72 I assume). But what about corps size limits, any restrictions on what you could do with guard equipment, at what point did the colors presentation cease to be a requirement, anything like that?
@@OldManAP probably the most dramatic change was the move from tear-down scoring to build up scoring. It went from execution being the most important to the least important. Back when you started with 100 points and every mistake was a deduction, you could actually make a difference in scoring by just working on execution. Now it's mostly subjective so being clean isn't nearly as important as the judges liking your show. Or staff, or whatever. It's a mess. It created the copycat style we see now - everybody does the same stuff the last winner did.
The size limit was 150 marching members. Nothing could hit the ground or it was a .1 penalty. Absolutely nothing. Dropped equipment could NOT be picked back up, or that was a full point penalty. There were strict rules about the American flag and how it was marched and presented. There had to be a full honor squad and they had to always be physically in the front of the rest of the guard or it was a big penalty - two points I think. Typically they marched off to a front corner of the field after color presentation so they wouldn't have that issue. I think they dropped the Honor guard requirements after '77, but not positive. In '80 we (Scouts) did a VFW championship after DCI and we had to have an Honor guard. 3 of our (female!) fans were quickly recruited so we wouldn't lose the penalty points. Somewhere out there is a pic of them - complete with fake mustaches!!
Stop time was actually counted with a stop watch - the whole corps had to keep their feet moving for at least 7(?) minutes of the show, that's why the only time you see them standing still was during the concert piece. Even soloists had to mark time or it counted against the stop time.
No yardlines. Sidelines, end lines, and a 50 yard line, and that's it. Precision marching was key.
Ray Peery that is amazing in sight, when I was a little kid my mom use to be the Sponsor of the high school drill team. And I was exposed to dci in the 90s. I didn’t remember much until middle school when I started watching the cadets etc. and then in high school (2010s) I enjoy the current drum Corp style but I also have such a love for all the eras of drum corps style but there’s one thing I’ve always been curious of, not being a historian of dci, is why drum corps would preform the same songs. I’m not complaining cus you get different versions of awesome tunes but I’m very curious what was going on or how it was different then. Anyways I apologize for not using the correct terms but yea I love drum corps !
@@Orenjicrush that's a great question! I think there were many reasons, I'll try to explain the ones I can think of. Your instinct is correct - one of the main reasons was to get a better version on the field. It takes about a full year to get a tune from idea to finals, and a lot gets lost along the way due to time restraints, staging issues, or even talent level change. When execution was as important as effect the main way to up the execution scores was to "water down" the music - simplify it to score better. That helped scoring but generally made the tune less true to its origins, and I know that the people who wrote the original hated doing that.
Another reason had to do with the fact that many early participants in drum corps could not read music - everything was taught by rote. If you already had a tune ready to go from last year, that saved lots of rehearsal time.
Tradition played a big role. Many if not most corps had a corps song that was repeated through the years, you didn't even need to see them to know who was playing. The Cavaliers and Bully. Madison and Maleguena. Along with that was iconic stuff, like the SCV bottle dance. The Troopers sunburst. The list seemed endless with hundreds of corps at the time.
There was no penalty for repeating tunes, if the crowd liked it and the execution was there, nobody blinked an eye about it.
Repeating a popular tune was a great way to get the crowd behind you.
That all changed when the concept of a "total show" took over, and re-using old tunes was frowned upon, as was using the same old uniforms. Costumes are now the order of the day, so tradition is gone in that regard.
Absolutely incredible RIFLE & FLAGTEAM - they give the best example of 'SNAP' ever . . . and so does the rest of the corps. I hope all the new corps today understand they are standing on the shoulders of these old corps.
Even when the all girl color guard lined up in single file to use the rest room they stood at attention and entered and exited with snap. What CLASS. Not this JUNK we see today when Drum Corps are in a parade.
Agree, but I must refer to 27th Lancers from 78-82
@@LyleFrancisDelp YES ! So much PRIDE in these corps members . . . . 27th was equally AWESOME !
Thank you for sharing this. I really enjoy these early DCI films. While I do enjoy modern as well, I think something has been lost in the evolution….real marching and that quality of precision in drill and guard work.
Forty-five years later, and it still brings goosebumps! Great Job!
This drill was probably one of the BEST drills and music from a Junior Corps from the decade 1965-1975, if not from any Drum Corps all around!
"The rifle line was about as perfect as any since"
Agreed!
It's remarkable in itself that, at this point after 44 years, almost 20,000 people have viewed it, some, like myself, for multiple times!
This show itself should be in the DC Hall of Fame!
This is my fourth time looking at this clip, my first post was 3 years ago. Today is August 20th 2022.
Can't we just love new and old equally?
The new homosexual corps wouldn’t exist if the old heterosexual corps never came along. I was and still am heterosexual and only like girls. It’s gross to think of my love sausage being soiled by another man’s poophole
@@Mark-sj3xb What the hell kind of analogy is that, I love all DCI and I am super confused why and how anyone could hate the quality that we've come to expect in recent years and the old historic sound of earlier years. I think you need to get your tumb out of your ass and start enjoying new things.
Mark wtf
@@Mark-sj3xb 😂😂😂
Old was objective. New is Antifa, based on the rules of Outcome Based socialist educators DCI brought in the system. Anti-American, anti-knowledge educators who taught "if you feel good you are a winner." Drum corps was never based on anything but skill - not emotional pleadings.
Fun and entertaining - marvelous.
The definition of HYPE.
McD
Ah yes . . . . the days when Drum Corp really was DRUM CORP ! If I remember correctly the Kingsmen had a horn line of just 36. Considered small in '72 yet they still kicked-ass! They were the first corp to 'angle-up' their horns to the audience and did so during their concert number. Also, watch the rifle guard - just unbelieveable, truly awsome !
Horns to the box and hype.
We marched 42 Horn spots...1 was a plug. We had a lot of 20 & 21 year olds (age rules were met) with lots of Drum Corps experience...plus we (the entire corps) were the most focused and unselfish people I had ever been around...
That was one of the most bad-ass things I've ever seen. These guys were amazing.
First time watching this -- amazing and much preferred to the stuff being done today.
The rifles themselves put on a damn good show! Really Great!
Wow...Thanks for posting this. The first DCI champion. I've never seen this before. Great to have this perspective of where our activity came from.
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Back when Drum Corps was SMOOTH!!!!!
The musicality of this group is pretty amazing! Seriously great stuff!
whats missing today is the accessibility of the music. I can''t see why an entertaining program can be worked into today's shows
I was there - what an exciting show!
This my first time watching this show. Holy crap. The marching is amazing, especially the accompany front. The straightest line i've seen in a show. This is also including current DCI corps marching today.
WAS THERE TO SEE THIS EXCELLENT SHOW
This just absolutely kicks ass over and over and over again. What a corps! What a show!
Ralph Hardimon in the snare line the year before he aged out. Mad talent in this line.
Wow - they were a machine!!! I saw them the first time in 74 in Ithaca - I was super impressed then.
What I watch when I want a "pick me up". Music is flawless. Different people in a different time. Class act!!!
Heard this first on cassette first time I've seen the full show, from the Uk
I was a second soprano player in the pre-DCI Falcon Cadets of Elizabeth NJ in that year, we were contenders for the class B Garden State finals and I remember our horn instructor Glenn Eng (RIP) used to tell us to try and sound like Anaheim, in my view the Anaheim was the top corps in the VFW circuit and they were superior to most of the top corps back then like Blue Rock, the Golden Knights which i was a member of for one year and the Casper Troopers were tough as well.
Corps like the Blue Devils, Santa Clara, the Racine Kilties, the all-female Audubon Bon-Bons and the great Madison Scouts used to mesmerize me with their size, power, range, m&m skill and repertoires, i'm and old warhorse in my late 60s now and those wonderful times and experiences will be with me as long as i live and beyond folks, for me Anaheim was the top of the heap during the pre-DCI era, i learned so much that found me in the 1st Marine Division Drum Corps to end my d&b experience there, the ride was a fascinating and adventurous one and Anaheim was a big part of that exposure... I would be remiss not to mention the excellent 27th Lancers, so precise, the jazz riffs and Scottish-style drumming set a blistering pacefew corps could match...📌✔️👀✨👍🏽
WOW! I was just listening to this on my way home from work today!!
a lot of people don't know that the kingsmen didn't come out that year till awhile after everyone else. Don't remember if it was a funding issue, or a membership problem. But when they did....OMG!!!
Jim S Director suddenly resigned
DCI 50th Anniversary episode about the first DCI Champions. th-cam.com/video/2jq0nFLFUqY/w-d-xo.html
Just a super corps with excellent brass and drum line. Ray Mallen, great mellophone player in St. Lucy's played in Kinsmen. Wish we had a corps like them back East.
Wow! Why do I STILL get goosebumps when I listen and watch this show??? Could it be because it was one of the best...if not THE best...drum corps show of those golden years of Drum Corps? I was always a big East Coast Drum Corp guy (Sky, Cabs, and all the junior corps of the day), but when Anaheim came "back east" for that one season, it was, to say the least, overwhelming! GREAT job by the Guard and Rifles, both which made the show visually great! Great job by all!
I was there, and remember that ending fanfare vividly. I remember it the rain came down in a torrent just as they finished announcing the scores. Can't believe it's almost 40 years. Wow. Thanks for posting.
The World Open 1974 was a fantastic experience! That was my last year , I marched withSt.Andrews Bridgemen and will never forget it!
Seems like the moment DCI formed innovation in the marching arts ignited. It’s mind blowing seeing how much evolution has occurred. And yeah, everything about the 72 Kingman was top notch for that day. Would’ve been amazing to witness live, but I was only a year old that summer. 🤣 So glad the vid is around!
Well stated! I can appreciate these old shows but am so glad the activity evolved. It’s still made up of hard working kids having the time of their life. There’s no changing that.
It’s evolved into a dance show with special effects and electronics. No longer “pure”. No longer precise, as the guard work is purposely designed to avoid such things as precision, which can be judged, and rely on “general effect”. IMO, the high point of DCI was mid 70s to about 1990….and I include the late 80s only to include the remarkable shows on Appalachian Spring and Phantom of the Opera by SCV.
@@LyleFrancisDelp I agree with you 100%. TCI in my opinion has turned the activity into a marching band competition, superimposed on a three ring circus. We no longer have real drum and bugle Corps. DC I should change the name from Drum Corps International, two, marching bands International. Just my opinion, just call it what it really is today.
Tom Float was my instructor when I marched snare at Spirit of Atlanta.(1980) He marched snare in this video. DCI Hall of Fame Member
I still miss the old school!
This show was innovative for 1972.
sometimes I feel like I'm the only highschooler who enjoys old school DCI more than the current stuff.
Sounds like someone was born in the wrong generation.
oh christ not in dci too
you got tast kid :-) hope your still that way
you are.
crazy to see how much dci has changed
It still gives me chills in 72 and 2018. And the ending. Exodus and King of Kings
OUTSTANDING SHOW & BEST DRUM LINE EVER,WHAT A GREAT DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS. FORMER MEMBER OF THE LONG ISLAND SUNRISER'S DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS.
It still stands up as one of the cleanest Hornlines of all time.
That is still a fantastic rifle line.
wonderfully designed show. great precision and sound!!
One of the greatest ever
Great show!
Listening to this drumline when I was little (especially the timo
It would be fitting for SCI to show these show on the big screen right before they give out the scores this year, being 50 years ago!!
this show made me join del la salle Canada
The tympani were vintage Ludwig "machine" tympani which are still available today. They weigh between 30 and 40 pounds depending on size. They are actually lighter and easier to carry than most multi-tenors are now, as Canadian Drum God can attest (since he's marched both). 2 of the tympani were original Kingsmen tympani from the 1970s. He marched the EXACT same position his dad did in 1976, (#2), there's a 1 in 3 chance that he carried the SAME drum his father did 31 years earlier.
I sometimes wonder if Anaheim stayed active all these years, would the Blue Devils have won as many DCI championships as they have....listen to the Kingsmens sound in 1972...and if they were to progress along the same trajectory, improving along the way, who knows....
I call the Blue Devils the "Northern Kingsmen". heh.
oldschooldrumcorps What if BD never existed instead it was the Kingsmen
I was an East Coast junior corps kid (small corps from Oceanside Long Island) and wasn't at all hip to the West Coast. Reading Pennsylvania was West to me - okay I was familiar with the Illinois corp. The Air Force sent me to the Defense Language School in Monterey CA in 1970 and just for the heck of it I road my first ever motorcycle up to Santa Clara to see a show. I was dumbfounded. SCV blew me away. All the corps were incredible. What an eye opener! Pretty cool Ritual Fire Dance there, Anaheim - I loved that piece when I worked with Bayonne in 1978.
I'll start loving new when today's corps learn to emulate the great performance and execution of the sixties and seventies drum corps. Amen.
Amazing. The FIRST people to win DCI.
3 weeks ago I had the privilege of spending the afternoon with one of the BEST music directors Richard (Rocco) Oliverio and gentlemen Greg Thomas.
It was an honor to talk with Roc about so many members and dear friends from over so many years.
It saddens me that DCI has not put this Gentlemen into the Hall of Fame for turning out some of the GREATEST horn lines in Drum Corps History.
It a shame that a few have blocked this. SUCH A SHAME
So many of my friends that I marched side by side to achieve that Magical year have since passed. When this finally happens it will be a sad day in Drum Corps history that DCI and the past members did not come together against a very small few that wanted to block this.
I'm proud to have been the D/M of the Kingsmen 67-71 and working along side so many unbelievable people that I'm proud to call my friends.
Marching with the Kingsmen was the BEST Part of my Corps life from 1957 to 1971
Only wish that they were still here to enjoy that PURE CLASS "One Hand One Heart "
Exodus and Kings of Kings still give me goosebumps.
At 07:00 of the video (during Concert) look at the back judge walking behind the lines checking the proper angle of heels.....
Thats a killer hornline! Veryy cool, I saw the kingsmen alumni corps in 2007 at Pasadena, wish i couldve seen the real thing in person!
Love how there was just enough wind that night to keep the flags flying straight out much of the time!
Old School Best School!
My favorite Drum Corps of all time!
I was there in 72 and I loved the Blue Stars but the Kingsmen were the better corp that night. Their show was electric!
much respect
The one thing which most people don't realize is that ANYONE could join the Corps, regardless of "talent." The ages ranged from 13 to 21, the "veterans" would teach and mentor the newbies and it was a total year-round family.
It didn't cost an absolute fortune to audition and join and there wasn't the heartache of not being welcomed into the Corps.
Also, the members of the Corps all lived in the same communities, which added an even greater sense of belonging and family.
I'm not hating on the current-day Corps structures, but there is something good about having your neighbors joining you for M&M practice in the basement during the winter, working on your marching carriage and your step length, as well as all those great weekends in the local school gym with the Corps as you practiced (for hours!) the Company Fronts, Intervals and smoothness in movement, all the while enjoying being with YOUR Corps.
The beginning is an excerpt from First Suite in Eb by Gustav Holst, incase anyone was curious.
Outdoor and indoor performances have become more about story telling not only through the musical aspect, but through visual performance. Phantom 2008 was a clear example of story telling. Spartacus is one of my favorites, not only due to the musical intensity, but because of the storyline. It's unique in its own way. Older shows barely had any movement while playing, however the music was very well put together.
+Jake Patterson "Older shows barely had any movement while playing"? An interesting comment. I think older shows had more movement when playing. And they did it without "park and play." There were also rules specifying the length a corps had to be moving, etc. One would also know what corps was on the field without even looking at the field because you knew the song a corps was playing. Corps did not all sound the same, and their drills did not all look the same. It's a different activity today. No better. No worse. Just different.
6:20 to 8:20 disagrees with you
@@xXEpicMehXx Concert was a requirement in those days and was for several years after. It's a holdover from the American Legion/VFW days who set the rules before DCI. I'm sure the marching tymps appreciated the break from having to march the entire show wearing their instruments. They were the only ones allowed to place their equipment or instrument onto the field and only during concert. The rest of the show, the corps was required to march, no stopping. Featured horns and soloist couldn't park and play; they had to be marching even if it's only marching in place, unless it was during the concert portion. I'm not saying it's better or worse; just that the rules were different.
well, i made a comment about the pit and lack of in older videos,,,The pit is essential and they deserve to be honored! Either way, keeping drum corps alive is more important than any negative comments!!
The pit didn't exist then because the rules required that you marched and carried your instrument or equipment in the case of the color guard. The only exception was the tympanis were allowed to set down for concert.
They are coming back this season as an open class Corp and I'm their head contra player!!!
Crown Imperial!!!! I had no idea they played this. I played it with 27th in 1980! Those snares! Amazing. This is 10 times more entertaining than the mis mash of woke shows with themes and amplification happening now. Thank you Kingsmen!
1st class corps, on and off the field. I remember how disciplined they were - after their show and waiting retreat, they sat as a group in the stands, not carousing with others, etc. A very united and serious corps.
Still blown away :)
I'm glad you're marching corps. It's an experience like no other. I marched before even the third valve was added. My son marches now. There is much that remains the same even with the changes in the instruments, etc. I hope Kingsmen will succeed. They made a comeback attempt when I marched too. Isn't a bit early to know you're lead contra/tuba? Most corps don't even have auditions for several weeks yet.
Legends!
I love the fact that you can actually recognize the music as a song. Today its just play a few notes and take off running all over the field.
Today’s music sounds like they are playing riffs from an Arban’s book. It’s not really music it’s just showing off their technical prowess.
The evolution of guard is the most fascinating
i remember seeing these guys they were great, i knew their show better than mine ,falcon cadets
Not gonna lie, I much prefer modern drum corps to older drum corps (Don't tear me a new one old timers, we're all brothers and sisters here), but this was pretty enjoyable and even impressive at some parts.
no lines but the ends and 50 and they still used VFW rules everyone in step it was about the music today no so much i think the gold age was in the mid 90 till about 98 Star pushed the activity and then Cadets got control and George hopkins pushed it passed it limmit by the early 2000 with the intro of the Bflat bugles and so on... i lost intrust in the activety in the 2004 need to swing back to more precission and music that is not tonal to the drill. watch and listen to the USMC corp still use G horns the sound is so much brighter in the upper brass the bottom is nto as rich but they about the music everything around the music. its not drum corps its band. sorry no tear on you but i saw my first show in 1962 and follow and marched till the 2004 enjoy your band shows .
i'd argue that a darker hornline with better intonation and more difficult drill is better. also, the drill today (with the exception of blue devils) is still super precise, it's just more visually complex so it's harder to see specific sets and transitions.
I like the more rigid rules of earlier drum corps and the more military style of conducting the marching unit. What I liked about the activity was you had a rigid military type marching unit that would play traditional marches and then might play a contemporary chart for their concert piece. I also like the wearing of actual uniforms instead of yoga outfits.
I like 1983 through 2008. Music and drill took a big leap in 1983 and electronics ruined it in 2009.
Historic. Yes. But far in the past. Time marches on.
One thing which I enjoy is that the corps has more immediacy to the audience without the huge pit barrier of today's drum corps. Doesn't it make sense now to reposition the pit to the back sideline now that they are amplified? After all, they are the ACCOMPANIMENT and not the show!
never mind the synthesizers, they did it without yardlines -- it's all about interval, distance, dress and cover control
God damn, that flag/rifle pass-through at 3:30 still looks awesome.
I still listen to it, too. I grew up with all the East Coast corps in those years, and remember when the Kingsmen came "back east" for a season. They brought the house down with this show, no matter where they went or who was competing. I was fortunate to find a recording of this repertoire on-line somewhere, and have it in the car for my "listening pleasure" from time to time!
Great show!
Float/Hardimon was 1971 - 1973. Float marched again in 1974.
WOW!!!
My High School's marching band is called the Royal Kingsmen. We are named after then. Too bad they're no longer in existence. They were the first to win a DCI Championship titale and one of the founding bands of DCI. I am honored to have their name. look up the Royal Kingsmen.
When you consider what they had to work with, not bad. I wouldn't want to march it, but there you go.
Is anyone interested in becoming the executive director of the Anaheim Kingsmen Junior Drum and Bugle Corps so that we can make a comeback to DCI?
Thanks for posting. It brings back memories. I was awed at how they could execute. I brought back a hazy memory. Maybe Kingsmen or Blue Devils? It was hard to tell the boys from the girls with those uniforms until they turned around and the girls usually had wider hips. During a closer there was a horn soloist. She took off her shako and tossed out a long mane of blonde hair and put the shako back on. I had not known it was a female. I thought that gesture was cool.
Anyone remember that?
That would be Blue Devils and that horn player was probably Bonnie Ott, Jim Ott's sister. Kingsmen didn't have any female horn players until 1978 after the departure of the corps musical director and Horn instructor.
Does anyone know why all units entered from the left endzone? Were there specific unit maneuvers that were evaluted by the judges?I do like the military bearing better then than what they are doing today. Just something cool about watching a Drumline that doesn't do all those silly extra individual movements they are doing now.
The entry and exit were left over rules from the American Legion and VFW days prior to DCI. These two organizations ruled drum corps until DCI in 1972..Units had to enter from the left or #1 side and exit to the right or the #2 side. They use to shoot off a staters gun when the first person crossed the line onto the field and the when the last person exited the field for the timing judge. This is where the term, "off the line" comes from for the first song or musical piece. Not even sure if they use that term anymore. As to your question regarding maneuvers; there weren't required maneuvers but there were required elements. Your show had to have a color presentation in which the American (or Canadian) flag had to be featured and a concert piece which was performed at a standstill. The American Flag always had to have a guard with a "weapon" on each side. Typically that was a rifle or a saber but the Troopers had at least one guard with a holstered pistol.