So I use to use running shoes and ocassionally would slip, I bought new K-swiss shoes, I luv em but have already slipped 3 times in them the 1st 2 times I played. I'm explosive when I move so I catch my self rolling on the ground after a shot, is there light pickleball shoes that provide better tractions?
I believe Tyrol is making a lighter shoe these days. And the Tyrol shoe has good traction. You could also try Asics perhaps. I used to play in them for hard court tennis and found I could trust the grip.
You got real close to the answer we were all waiting for when you got into heel design, then you left it! why did they make the heel different and what does it help do or prevent. thank you.
I believe I explained it was because of the difference in kinetic movement in tennis versus pickleball - to protect the achilles. If I did not, then will have to reshoot a new video but that is the answer.
@@BestPickleballCoach I am not sure I understand how these protect the achilles? I have achilles tendinitis and have been searching for a suitable shoe for Pickleball. So far I have found the New Balance Lav 2 and now the CT Rally tennis shoes give me the best heel support. The have a nice firm heel counter which cups the heel, there are very cushioned with a 1.4cm heel to toe drop. My physio has also recommended heel lifts to put less strain on my achilles. You describe the Tyrols as being designed to "pull the heel back and down". How does this help the achilles? Whilst not all tennis shoes are perfect for Pickleball, I am sure there are some, such as the New Balance, which do a better job of protecting the ankle than the Tyrols.
@@tomwharton9800 hello. My understanding is that the drop in the heel cradles the foot better for pickleball movement. Tennis shoes are fine but I think it is fair to conclude that they were designed, primarily, for tennis. I would stick with your physio's recommendations in any event.
What about the tread design, pattern and traction advantages of a good PB shoe ? I've had a few indoor tumbles where I've been told I need a "better" shoe. These events occurred on standard tile gymnasium courts. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Hi Allan. Indoor you may want to wear a gym shoe (volleyball or badminton). They have a gummier sole that is softer and adheres better indoors. The reason you would not wear the same shoe outdoors is because the tread will not last.
do you have a recommendation for a pickleball shoe that is "zero-drop". if you are unfamiliar with that term, it generally means there is the same amount of cushion throughout the sole so the heel and forefoot are on the same level. Because they allow more natural movement, zero-drop shoes help strengthen your foot muscles, improve balance and enhance athletic performance. so...can you comment on pickleball shoes with zero drop?
This is a great question. When I am not playing pickleball my go to shoe is a Vibram five finger. Agree about foot strengthening being improved. That said, I am not aware of any such shoe that is recommended for pickleball. I think once we agree to stand on a completely flat hardened surface with grit added to it and run around chasing a ball, perhaps we need to agree to wear a shoe that corresponds - understanding that neither is our natural habitat.
I used to play with 5 fingers indoors, but dealing with the socks is a real pain, but benefits of balance enhancement, foot strength leads to quicker response in moving to ball. I tried a shoe by Merrill but they would not hold up to pickleball and soles would unglue. next I played several years with a shoe by Altra which was great (Solstice) but sole wore out quickly. currently I play with a little known brand call Xero in a shoe called 360 and absolutely love them for pickleball, even though they are not advertised as pickleball shoe. I'm not affiliated with company but you should check them out
I use my racquetball shoes till they wear out, got 3 new pairs from when I was sponsored. They work well, maybe not as much cushioning, but they’re pretty stable and don’t want to twist an ankle in a narrow shoes. I agree, sport shoe manufacturers need to pay attention to the specific of pickleball demand.
Racquetball shoes are, to my estimation, in the arena of shoes that can be used for pickleball as they too are designed with lateral movement in mind. Appreciate the comment.
So I bought the Tyrols, and like them other than they are VERY wide as kind of discussed, Im a 190lb Mens 12 guy and the lace holes are touching across the 3/4 of the shoe top to get it tight. I thought of insoles, that lift more to fill the volume but that defeats the purpose. Going to have sell them for cheap.
my favorite shoe to wear in pickleball is any indoor soccer shoe, i find them perfect for a pickleball court. I use Nike Mercurial Vapor 15 which are about 60$
if you put a Dr. Scholls insert into a Tyrol pickleball shoe won't that defeat the purpose behind the Tyrol design of the pickleball shoe? Also without a shoe store in Fountain Colorado that sells Tyrol. I am not able to try them on and see if I like them and I am not sure what size to order and do not want to order the wrong size and then have to paying to ship them back. I also have a narrow foot and wear a men's 8.5 Asics running shoe. Asics Tennis running shoes are narrow in design, fit and feel.
I have a weakened arch and tendonitis in my right foot. I've been stretching and lightly exercising it and it's slowly getting better. I just bought sketchers archfit sneakers 2 days ago, and tried them all day yesterday. I realized the salesgirl gave me a pair of wide-fit shoes. They are too loose. I only need them for everyday wear and light walking. They don't make the sneakers I bought in a regular fit, but they do have a regular fit in pickleball sneakers. My question is: Can I wear pickleball sneakers for the purposes listed above? Thank you in advance for your help.
@BestPickleballCoach Thank you for your reply. I just wanted to update you and others who may be curious about the Sketchers arch support pickleball sneakers. I ended up buying them and have been happy with the amount of support they offer the arches of my feet. And they're very comfortable, too.
What do the pros wear? Ben Johns and others wear Babolat Jet Mach 3, and that's what I wear. I wear 'zero-drop' shoes when I'm not playing pickleball, and while I don't think the Babolat shoe is zero-drop, it's pretty close.
Hi Suzie - I am not aware of any that are barefoot style for pickleball. I love the five fingers and wear them all the time but have not worn them to play competitive pickleball (some pickup)
I loved Adidas when I was playing tennis but those same Adidas styles I wore for tennis feel too bulky for pickleball. I tried the new Adidas tennis shoes they came out with n 2023 , but they are not comfortable. I donated all my slightly used Adidas tennis shoes and have found FILA Volley Zone shoes to be perfect.
Jill’s shoes are prettier. I figured out how well ventilated the Tyrol shoe is ventilated when I stepped in a puddle. Is Tyrol going to produce wider shoes? My little toes are getting some weird calluses.
you are biased :). The holes help with focus - watch out for the puddles. I do not think so on the wider shoe - being a smaller company it is hard for them to carry these additional items in inventory.
I just got the Tyrol Velocity V today. I wear a 10.5 wide and on their website for the shoe has “Wide to box: We recommend ordering a half size down”. I think it is a type and should be Wide toe box. However this 10.5 feels a bit tight. I’m going to contact them tomorrow morning to see if a size 11 would fit or be too big and my heel will slip OR is there another model they have that is built a little wider than this Velocity V model.
Big T ... I would agree totally with you! Being a big guy, I bought tennis shoes and not a cheap court shoe! That footbed that cradles the heel is huge. My joints and muscles have been sore, not to mention that the shoes don't hold up to the demands of pickleball!
Really love these shoes. Took me 3 tries to find the corect fit......they are wide and the velocity in a 1/2 side down worked best.......but very stabe shoe that I enjoy wearing with confidence. Thanks for posting.
Based on this review I ordered my shoes a half size smaller than I normally would. Now I can't return them because Tyrol only accepts brand new shoes that they can resell as new. So I am stuck with almost brand news shoes that I cannot wear because they are so tight and painful.
You can definitely use badminton or even volleyball shoes. The issue that arises is the wear on the bottom of the shoes if you are playing on an external playing surface. Badminton and volleyball shoes generally will wear out quicker than a sole that is made for that type of surface. Hope this helps.
@@BestPickleballCoach still looking but I tried on same ASICS tennis shoes in 4e that felt light. Still haven’t tried it out on the court. I think hard soles like Tyrol would last longer, just need something thinner.
I’m calling bs on this. Just because one pickle ball shoes has slightly more heel hook than one tennis shoe doesn’t mean that they all do. Being at the net in tennis isn’t that significantly different to what you do playing pickleball. Id put money on the fact that a pro tennis play like Nedal puts more lateral pressure into a shoe than any pickleball player. Also I run new balance tennis shoes for both which has significant curve around the heel. It isn’t a pickleball specific thing. This feels like an ad rather than anything impartial
I have to agree with osint. It’s more marketing than fact that you need pickleball shoes. Companies that make tennis shoes make more durable shoes than specialty shoes. I played tennis and now play pickleball and when playing singles, there is no difference in the hard fast forward and backward, also the big lateral moves. Pickleball’s slower lateral moves require no special support from my experience. Those moves can be done wearing a pair of slides. Pickleball only shoes are still a marketing gimmick until proven otherwise.
@@SSS51706 why tennis shoes are legit but pickleball shoes (those specifically designed for pickleball) are somehow not legit is a mystery. That said, you can definitely play pickleball in tennis shoes if that is your preference. Slides - not so much. Be well.
@@BestPickleballCoach in my opinion, there should be no tennis or pickleball shoe. It should just be a court shoe. Maybe indoor or outdoor, but court shoe is more appropriate.
Thanks for answering my question. Much appreciated.
Was a good question :).
So I use to use running shoes and ocassionally would slip, I bought new K-swiss shoes, I luv em but have already slipped 3 times in them the 1st 2 times I played. I'm explosive when I move so I catch my self rolling on the ground after a shot, is there light pickleball shoes that provide better tractions?
I believe Tyrol is making a lighter shoe these days. And the Tyrol shoe has good traction. You could also try Asics perhaps. I used to play in them for hard court tennis and found I could trust the grip.
@@BestPickleballCoach TY!!! I had to return 2 sets of shoes, trying to figure this out, I also understand that clay court shoes may be a good choice?
You got real close to the answer we were all waiting for when you got into heel design, then you left it! why did they make the heel different and what does it help do or prevent. thank you.
I believe I explained it was because of the difference in kinetic movement in tennis versus pickleball - to protect the achilles. If I did not, then will have to reshoot a new video but that is the answer.
no worries, thanks@@BestPickleballCoach
@@BestPickleballCoach I am not sure I understand how these protect the achilles? I have achilles tendinitis and have been searching for a suitable shoe for Pickleball. So far I have found the New Balance Lav 2 and now the CT Rally tennis shoes give me the best heel support. The have a nice firm heel counter which cups the heel, there are very cushioned with a 1.4cm heel to toe drop. My physio has also recommended heel lifts to put less strain on my achilles. You describe the Tyrols as being designed to "pull the heel back and down". How does this help the achilles? Whilst not all tennis shoes are perfect for Pickleball, I am sure there are some, such as the New Balance, which do a better job of protecting the ankle than the Tyrols.
@@tomwharton9800 hello. My understanding is that the drop in the heel cradles the foot better for pickleball movement. Tennis shoes are fine but I think it is fair to conclude that they were designed, primarily, for tennis. I would stick with your physio's recommendations in any event.
What about the tread design, pattern and traction advantages of a good PB shoe ?
I've had a few indoor tumbles where I've been told I need a "better" shoe. These events occurred on standard tile gymnasium courts.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Hi Allan. Indoor you may want to wear a gym shoe (volleyball or badminton). They have a gummier sole that is softer and adheres better indoors. The reason you would not wear the same shoe outdoors is because the tread will not last.
do you have a recommendation for a pickleball shoe that is "zero-drop". if you are unfamiliar with that term, it generally means there is the same amount of cushion throughout the sole so the heel and forefoot are on the same level. Because they allow more natural movement, zero-drop shoes help strengthen your foot muscles, improve balance and enhance athletic performance. so...can you comment on pickleball shoes with zero drop?
This is a great question. When I am not playing pickleball my go to shoe is a Vibram five finger. Agree about foot strengthening being improved. That said, I am not aware of any such shoe that is recommended for pickleball. I think once we agree to stand on a completely flat hardened surface with grit added to it and run around chasing a ball, perhaps we need to agree to wear a shoe that corresponds - understanding that neither is our natural habitat.
I used to play with 5 fingers indoors, but dealing with the socks is a real pain, but benefits of balance enhancement, foot strength leads to quicker response in moving to ball. I tried a shoe by Merrill but they would not hold up to pickleball and soles would unglue. next I played several years with a shoe by Altra which was great (Solstice) but sole wore out quickly. currently I play with a little known brand call Xero in a shoe called 360 and absolutely love them for pickleball, even though they are not advertised as pickleball shoe. I'm not affiliated with company but you should check them out
@@RodgerRicks appreciate it.
I use my racquetball shoes till they wear out, got 3 new pairs from when I was sponsored. They work well, maybe not as much cushioning, but they’re pretty stable and don’t want to twist an ankle in a narrow shoes. I agree, sport shoe manufacturers need to pay attention to the specific of pickleball demand.
Racquetball shoes are, to my estimation, in the arena of shoes that can be used for pickleball as they too are designed with lateral movement in mind. Appreciate the comment.
So I bought the Tyrols, and like them other than they are VERY wide as kind of discussed, Im a 190lb Mens 12 guy and the lace holes are touching across the 3/4 of the shoe top to get it tight. I thought of insoles, that lift more to fill the volume but that defeats the purpose. Going to have sell them for cheap.
Why would insoles defeat the purpose?
my favorite shoe to wear in pickleball is any indoor soccer shoe, i find them perfect for a pickleball court. I use Nike Mercurial Vapor 15 which are about 60$
👍 thanks for sharing the shoe.
if you put a Dr. Scholls insert into a Tyrol pickleball shoe won't that defeat the purpose behind the Tyrol design of the pickleball shoe?
Also without a shoe store in Fountain Colorado that sells Tyrol. I am not able to try them on and see if I like them and I am not sure what size to order and do not want to order the wrong size and then have to paying to ship them back. I also have a narrow foot and wear a men's 8.5 Asics running shoe. Asics Tennis running shoes are narrow in design, fit and feel.
Sounds like Asics is a good solution for you. I would suggest looking into tennis versus running shoes though
I have a weakened arch and tendonitis in my right foot. I've been stretching and lightly exercising it and it's slowly getting better. I just bought sketchers archfit sneakers 2 days ago, and tried them all day yesterday. I realized the salesgirl gave me a pair of wide-fit shoes. They are too loose. I only need them for everyday wear and light walking. They don't make the sneakers I bought in a regular fit, but they do have a regular fit in pickleball sneakers. My question is: Can I wear pickleball sneakers for the purposes listed above? Thank you in advance for your help.
Hello. I wish I could offer more specific help but I am not so trained. Have you tried strengthening the arch off the pickleball court?
@BestPickleballCoach Thank you for your reply. I just wanted to update you and others who may be curious about the Sketchers arch support pickleball sneakers. I ended up buying them and have been happy with the amount of support they offer the arches of my feet. And they're very comfortable, too.
@@mygoldfishrocks 👍
Problem for me is I have very wide feet and need an 4E wide shoe and Tyrol doesn't make 4E shoes.
We have spoken to them about it and they wish they could accomodate the wider foot. Perhaps in their future. What shoe are you playing in?
@@BestPickleballCoach New Balance Fresh Foam X 1007.
@@dennismcconnell7057 NB has always made a good shoe. Thanks for sharing it
What do the pros wear? Ben Johns and others wear Babolat Jet Mach 3, and that's what I wear. I wear 'zero-drop' shoes when I'm not playing pickleball, and while I don't think the Babolat shoe is zero-drop, it's pretty close.
Babolat is a great shoe choice.
Is there a barefoot style wide toebox for toe splay for pickleball shoes?
Hi Suzie - I am not aware of any that are barefoot style for pickleball. I love the five fingers and wear them all the time but have not worn them to play competitive pickleball (some pickup)
I bought a pair of Tyrols. I loved them, until I developed a blister on my left pinkie toe. I may have narrow feet.
May be a lacing thing. I would google that and see if there is a lacing pattern that will better keep your shoe from sliding around up there.
I loved Adidas when I was playing tennis but those same Adidas styles I wore for tennis feel too bulky for pickleball. I tried the new Adidas tennis shoes they came out with n 2023 , but they are not comfortable. I donated all my slightly used Adidas tennis shoes and have found FILA Volley Zone shoes to be perfect.
Ty Valerie. I have not tried Fila in a number of years Will have to check them out.
Jill’s shoes are prettier. I figured out how well ventilated the Tyrol shoe is ventilated when I stepped in a puddle. Is Tyrol going to produce wider shoes? My little toes are getting some weird calluses.
you are biased :). The holes help with focus - watch out for the puddles. I do not think so on the wider shoe - being a smaller company it is hard for them to carry these additional items in inventory.
I just got the Tyrol Velocity V today. I wear a 10.5 wide and on their website for the shoe has “Wide to box: We recommend ordering a half size down”. I think it is a type and should be Wide toe box. However this 10.5 feels a bit tight. I’m going to contact them tomorrow morning to see if a size 11 would fit or be too big and my heel will slip OR is there another model they have that is built a little wider than this Velocity V model.
Is it ok to wear orthopedic insoles in pickleball shoes?
Sure
Big T ... I would agree totally with you! Being a big guy, I bought tennis shoes and not a cheap court shoe! That footbed that cradles the heel is huge. My joints and muscles have been sore, not to mention that the shoes don't hold up to the demands of pickleball!
Hello Double T. Crazy how important shoes are - overlooked by many at their peril. Glad you are sorting through your shoe needs.
Really love these shoes. Took me 3 tries to find the corect fit......they are wide and the velocity in a 1/2 side down worked best.......but very stabe shoe that I enjoy wearing with confidence. Thanks for posting.
Glad you are enjoying the Tyrols. It is what we wear.
Based on this review I ordered my shoes a half size smaller than I normally would. Now I can't return them because Tyrol only accepts brand new shoes that they can resell as new. So I am stuck with almost brand news shoes that I cannot wear because they are so tight and painful.
Why not use badminton court shoes, the two sport moves similarly, and badminton is way more demanding in every regard.
You can definitely use badminton or even volleyball shoes. The issue that arises is the wear on the bottom of the shoes if you are playing on an external playing surface. Badminton and volleyball shoes generally will wear out quicker than a sole that is made for that type of surface. Hope this helps.
let me know when somebody makes one in 14 6E
That is a big shoe :)
Tyrol seems like a good shoe but to me it feels like I’m wearing a pair of boots. The sole is so thick.
Shoes are definitely very personal. What shoe works for you?
@@BestPickleballCoach still looking but I tried on same ASICS tennis shoes in 4e that felt light. Still haven’t tried it out on the court. I think hard soles like Tyrol would last longer, just need something thinner.
@@danielcielmaee3642 I used to wear Ascis during my tennis days. Good shoes
I’m calling bs on this. Just because one pickle ball shoes has slightly more heel hook than one tennis shoe doesn’t mean that they all do. Being at the net in tennis isn’t that significantly different to what you do playing pickleball. Id put money on the fact that a pro tennis play like Nedal puts more lateral pressure into a shoe than any pickleball player. Also I run new balance tennis shoes for both which has significant curve around the heel. It isn’t a pickleball specific thing. This feels like an ad rather than anything impartial
Keep doing you and be well.
This is the most pretentious video on the internet. Wrong. The heel structure does not make it a “pickleball” shoe. It’s marketing 😂
Made my day demon. To be "the most pretentious video on the internet" has been a long term goal of ours. Words cannot express my gratitude.
@@BestPickleballCoachtypical internet warrior response
@@jackeddemon you're back? awesome.
@@BestPickleballCoach what these idiots don't realize is that every time they comment (even shitty ones) they end up helping the video algorithm ;)
There is no difference...PICK A TENNIS shoe and you will do fine.....
Does "there is no difference" originate in actual knowledge or supposition. If the former, please elaborate.
I have to agree with osint. It’s more marketing than fact that you need pickleball shoes. Companies that make tennis shoes make more durable shoes than specialty shoes. I played tennis and now play pickleball and when playing singles, there is no difference in the hard fast forward and backward, also the big lateral moves. Pickleball’s slower lateral moves require no special support from my experience. Those moves can be done wearing a pair of slides. Pickleball only shoes are still a marketing gimmick until proven otherwise.
@@SSS51706 why tennis shoes are legit but pickleball shoes (those specifically designed for pickleball) are somehow not legit is a mystery. That said, you can definitely play pickleball in tennis shoes if that is your preference. Slides - not so much. Be well.
@@BestPickleballCoach in my opinion, there should be no tennis or pickleball shoe. It should just be a court shoe. Maybe indoor or outdoor, but court shoe is more appropriate.
@@SSS51706 that is a fair position :).