EMERGENCY IN THE CESSNA CARAVAN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ม.ค. 2017
- Join me at FlightSafety in Wichita, KS as fly the Cessna Grand Caravan / C208 and get surprised by a few emergencies.
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As the old saying goes, a good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one where you can use the plane again afterwards.
quasarsphere What about Ryan Air there landings are not good or great but you can still use the plane afterwards and walk away lol
You can use the plane afterward; you can use the plane for sheet metal for a roof on the shed.
It’s very likely that he just bent the hell out of the landing gear but that is fixable
Great Stuff Steveo! Love seeing you getting put through the wringer :)
Don't think I ever saw Steveo SWEAT like that before :) ,,, but I would still fly with him ANYWHERE !!!! Happy New Year to both Flight Chops and Steveo !! Looking forward to following you guyz in 2017 !! B/SwFL RSW
FlightChops The flight safety folks probably had a great time, "We can do what ever we want? Cool!" *evil grin*
efox2001 my father in law was a commercial pilot and flew a Cessna 310 when he was semi retired. He used to tell stories about how they would try to "kill him" in the simulator. Pretty funny stories. They finally threw the book at him - both engines out, electrical failures, no instruments and no gear.
They should have had someone barge in to stevo's cockpit, declare a hijack, and continually hit him on the head with a nerf bat while landing
KINGSHAKABOBO cool
Love it!
SteveO: We're experiencing some light chop...
Guy in the back: Ctrl-Shift-+,
Human Factors with Paul Garth Not Light chop You need say *Pitch up*
That is one bad ass sim.
holy shit I thought the sim reference graphics was some kind of joke... that's a sim.?
Officer Gregory Stevens are you being sarcastic?
Jonn I’ll.be happy one day getting xplane 11 and a 1081ti 👍🤡
Jack White it has G forces. Hence the name full motion sim. To create G’s on the human body the sim will tilt up simulating forces, and negative G’s are simulated by the sim tilting down.
That's pretty cool to see you using Flight Safety! I actually build these sims in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma.
Lived and worked in BA for many years. My wife was also a teacher there. We live in Owasso now. 😁
Two new places I think I might like to work.
When I first heard the opening audio "Thank you so much, and welcome to Wichita" I did a double take to make sure that it wasn't one of my personal videos playing by mistake since I live in Wichita (work for Cessna/Textron Aviation), and I just got back into town on Monday, and of course I recorded the landing and welcome announcement by the FA. It's nice to see such a familiar sight in a TH-cam video. :-)
My instructor once had me fly a Piper Cherokee without touching the yoke (using only rudder and trim) and do basic maneuvers like turning, climbing, and descending just for fun, but I could never imagine landing it like that. Awesome job Steveo!
Jeeeez... Had to remind myself to breath during that landing, caught myself holding my breath watching you work that trim.
I got tense on the second landing!!
Great simulations, Steveo, and great job in those emergencies. One can only imagine what WWII B-17 pilots went through, after the tail of their B-17 had shot up badly, or even severely damaged, and yet they were able to get back to base safely. I can't imagine how they did it. Also, I was awed by the simulation graphics in the simulator. Thanks for sharing.
Jeez' Louise! What an amazing E/D Steveo! So aggressive in your execution, yet totally in control of your aircraft and situation. Likewise with the Loss of Trim exercise. Calm, cool and collected although it did certainly appear to have caught your attention; to say the least. You're most definitely one of the very best out there, Steveo! Congrats on another successful SIM.
we appreciate your honesty in showing us a difficult situation
In real life, that might have required a change in underpants... ;-)
ahhhhh... thru the magic of editing, so of the more shocking parts were probably removed ... :)
Bruce Malo Haha!
Bruce Malo Its amazing what surgeons can do these days. :-p
always pack your heavy-duty astronaut-tested underwear for those stimulating simulators.....
You forgot, " over mountains with down-bursts and icing conditions!"
When you lose your elevator, just tell them "unable to maintain altitude". They'll understand. I would have also considered landing on the longest runway available (25R). Nice job with the emergency overall.
Would it have been better to keep the stability rather than use the flaps? Nice long runway available.
The altitude issued (3500) was the lowest legal altitude.Even though you experience control problems ATC is still going to issue an altitude to maintain, usually the MVA, unless there is other traffic.
The slow and low mushyness on flare had my palms sweating. Hope to never have to control like that. Nice job.
Gets your heart pumping but you just keep your cool and very professional... awesome to watch
Great job Steveo!!!
I had a runaway trim, it went full up trim, luckily I had a second pilot who could locate and pull the breaker! Amazing how much force a trim tab can produce!!! Well done Sir :-)
Awesome Steveo! I sweated with you during that last emergency. Thanks for sharing that experience!
That is an amazing simulator. You did awesome! Thanks Steve!
"WOW" good job, hard to believe how calm you were.
12:03 - Might seem strange to be still trying to use the controls that are clearly not working, but I think it was even stranger that I kept trying to use my invisible yoke to help :S
LOL, good one tin, think a few of us might have done that as well ;)
I did the same with my invisible trim wheel :-)
Wow, good job man!
Nice flying! Thanks for sharing and producing these videos.
Yes the Caravan videos are back! Well sort of. Looking forward to more. Keep up the great videos Steve.
Nice job on landing without elevator control. There is a great video on TH-cam where an instructor simulates this same emergency with his student. It's worth checking out again and again.
I really appreciate all the videos.
+jason michaud I saw that video! Very cool.
Great landing. That’s not luck. That’s skill
Awesome Training !!! Thanks for sharing the experience. Always learning !!
the first emergency descent landing was just so perfect....... I thought he was going to get into the water but ended up reaching the RW threshold so perfect..
OMG, those graphics are amazing!!
I was just going to say that.
at first i didnt know it was a simulator!!!
Full motion simulator, counts as flight time. It must be nice.
I want that toy in my livingroom...
Willem P 🤤
Real plane is cheaper
If i ever win the lottery i will have one real one probably is cheaper lol
Thanks for keeping us alive Steve...
Excellent job Stevo. Yes that’s something that none of us in GA ever think about, but anything is possible. And like the old saying, any landing you could walk away from is a good landing.
Great job!! I did a full control loss in a real Cessna172, only elevator trip, throttle and pedals... was really funny! Of course, a C172 have much less weight hehe, but the best you can do is increase a bit the approach speed, not use full flap and wait to the last moment for throttle idle, that will ensure a smooth speed lose and you will not need too much movements on the trim.
Sincerely, for never before tryed it... you did a GREAT job!
PS: Excuse me for my english hehe, not my language.
I'm always impressed with people who can learn a new language. I was looking at Chinese the other day and I was thinking it must take a very long time to draw all those shapes. I'm sure each shape signifies a letter for us but.....I don't know, I can't see myself ever learning another language. Anyway, you did a good job. Watch out for some on the internet who will use you learning another language against you. Those are the people who sit home and judge all day on the internet. Good Day! 💖
I found myself holding my breath until the end of the second sim!
The loss of the elevator was nerve-racking for me to watch. I'm sitting here in front of my computer thinking, "oh god not today" while you are like, "I'm Steveo1kinevo, I GOT THIS".
thank you for these videos. I appreciate all that you do for the community. Keep it up
Rio ATC have certainly improved their English pronunciation since I last listened to them! LOL
Santos Dumont, Brasil!
One of the best videos you've made! I wish you were my pilot on every flight I've ever been on, or will ever go on. Staying cool under pressure, that's your whole thing.
Whew! Great flying Captain! Scary situations!
Whoa! They sure can throw a wrench in your spokes on those simulators.
I forget where I heard it, but someone once said "training in a simulator is rough, because the sim controllers delight in taking you right to the edge, then giving you a great big motherfucking push!"
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing.
That was really neat. You did a awesome job. I could feel your nervousness.
Wow...nice emergency descent Stevo....right on the numbers...good job...you know your Caravan!!
EMERGENCY IN THE CHRYSLER CARAVAN!
Awesome! I just posted a few videos of my Dash 8- Q400 sim with Flight Safety.
Interesting, especially the 2nd scenario! It's nice to practice in a simulator, even if you crash, you get to walk away! Thank you for setting up this particular video!
Had me on the edge of my seat with loss of elevator! When you started the initial turn to the right, I was yelling at you "trim, trim, use your trim!" Then as you were diving for the runway, I was yelling "power, power, POWER!" And I'm just an inactive 172 driver! Great video.
So I was listening to the FLL feed because of the shooting today, and I heard 1TB and it sounded just like you! What a coincidence, I just found and fell in love with this channel. If that was you, can you explain how that experience went for you? Go to LiveATC, look up FLL's archive and you're at the 10:10 mark (aprx 19:10 GMT).
Rest in peace to the victims at FLL today.
+Eric Porter That was me. Very sad what happened today at KFLL. I was driving by the airport right as the shooting was happening and I had to fly by it shortly after.
Thanks for the quick reply. Very sad, and truly an unprecedented situation for both ATC and pilots at the airport. I can't imagine how much ATC had to scramble once they got word.
steveo1kinevo glad your ok
...a very sad day there for everyone...
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+steveo1kinevo great job on that second emergency. One question: why not trim for a stabilized approach speed and use the throttle for altitude on final?
I was going to say the same thing. It would likely ease up on the over controlling and balooning
@@warrenpierce8526 n keep out of a stall envelope!
Steveo, nice job, as someone else said, you walked away. Like Bob, I would have thought about using the throttle after trimming for the angle and airspeed you wanted to have over the numbers. Also, not sure how much flap you had, but with that amount of runway, a half flap landing would have been flatter, and thus easier to flair at the end. Now having said all that, I have zero turbine time, and the spool up might negate any benefits of using the throttle except for minor adjustments in the flight path. Good thought provoking video.
@@richardaldom741 Disclaimer, I have never flown much less landed a Caravan, so I don't know how well it would do this. My first thought was a zero flap landing, lots of runway for the excess speed, and a much flatter approach. He was going to have a ton of trimming as the nose dropped from chopping power, my fear was running out of trim. Either way he got it down safely. As a wise man once told me, "the aircraft belongs to the insurance company now, as long as you get your passengers down safely".
That experience was. . .interesting. Great job, Steveo.
Outstanding! Nice job on your loss of elevator. Priceless how you intuitively continued to feather and feel your pitch. Good job!
Just checking did you skip check list on first landing or was I missing something? Edited out is what I am trying to say.
That elevator failure was intense! I wonder what the chances are of some collapsed gear in the real-world equivalent. But you still walked away from it so well done!
Question, since you do the majority of your flying in the southeast and Bahamas, would it be better to practice those emergency situations around those areas in the simulator? That way, if you have emergencies during your regular flights and are forced to use airports you normally do not, you'd be slightly more prepared through the sim time, no?
Sidebar, I have finally caught up on every single flight vlog so I can no longer binge watch a bunch in one sitting and now have to wait like all the other subscribers. Sad day.
These types of sims can often be in the price range of tens of millions, and the scenery available is whatever is custom created for it. Some centers can do this themselves, but it requires someone to want it (and possibly pay for it?).
Eseem true. But FlightSafety Intl is the company that built the simulator, so it'd be fair to think they would have the entire world mapped for use if they're throwing Brazil and KLAS randomly for these two emergency simulations.
Holy crap! You did outstanding considering! I certainly doubt I would have been as calm and cool as you in that situation! Well done, Steveo!
That was Awesome!!!! Like everyone else I'm sure, was waiting to see what they would throw at you, I wasn't expecting that kind of emergency. That was great to see. Great video!!
SBRJ, haha!
Yuri Matias Br huehue
SDU
Steveo, how come you don't show anymore videos of the Caravan flying to the Bahamas?
+Marcelo tatertotts Avarino hopefully I will be able to film some more Caravan Bahamas videos soon!
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BB X Tatertotts even the simulator was a 5/10 on the “clench scale” 👏
This was awesome to watch, thanks. It was an interesting change from your usual serene flying videos where you appear to always be in complete control.
Thanks for making these videos....they're amazing.
I lost my elevator on a Piper PA-44 and did exactly what you just did. Fortunately, it was easy and we landed very smootly. It result that a cable went off of one of his wheels, loossing the cable.
Was the electric elevator trim working on your training ?
+superflyer6969 the elevator trim still worked in this situation.
superflyer6969 nice job getting down without incident! I'm doing my multi in the Seminole. Good aircraft!
Did you even wath the video? What a dumb question
doesn't losing an elevator pretty much mean instant death?
No. Losing elevator just means you can't control your angle of attack directly, but that alone will not cause instant death (as long as you have some altitude and airspeed). Losing elevator during take-off, when you're already beyond V1 speed is bad. Losing elevator after take-off during the initial climb is even worse. But if you're already in cruise altitude and lose elevator control, things are only reasonably dire and there is a chance of survival.
For every plane (of conventional aerodynamics) there is a certain stable airspeed that allows you to fly straight and level with no elevator input (elevator hanging in the wind). Going faster than that speed will allow you to climb, and reducing speed lets you descend. By very careful adjustment of throttle and use of other control surfaces (like flaps) to control your attitude, you can maneuver your way to approach and, hopefully, land.
But many aircraft also have a separate trim control that can, at least in some failure modes, allow limited elevator control even if the actual elevator control fails. It depends a lot on the type of trim and the type of malfunction.
Would a flapless approach make this easier or harder? True it's at a faster speed but my reasoning is the pitch angle is a bit higher so less of a dramatic flare would be required. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
My thoughts exactly. Since he was on the right glidepath, he should have left the flaps alone. No need to introduce a new variable you haven't checked out at altitude that close to the ground. Also McCarron's gotta have some long ass runways (too lazy to look it up), so plenty safe to land a little hot.
PS: Said like a true monday morning quarterback :)!
I think the "controller" says it's 9700 feet.
And no of course haha the situation was beautifully handled! I'm just thinking if it were to happen to me what's the ideal approach, pun intended :p
BTW, the monday morning quarterback remark was aimed at myself.
Yup. I was thinking just that too. Faster approach speed means a shallower approach and less change in pitch angle on flair. The runways were plenty long enough to come to a safe stop. Certainly in terms of playing the odds of fatality, with an aircraft that size I'd rather come in too fast and roll the dice on the ground than risk over-controlling and stalling approaching minimums.
I was impressed by how quickly your hand moved to the trim, I think right in the middle of your narrative. So even though you never practiced this, your instincts were right on. I can only hope that those pilots sitting up front when I'm a passenger are as quick.
Super video!
Pitch for speed, power for altitude.
Thought this was real because I skipped the intro lol..
Maxime C. Lol same
Over Rio and the controller is speaking perfect english with an american accent? Not so much in real life.😜
I'm Brazilian, and I agree with your comment
Yeah, they don't have to, you see, that's their land and language, you're the foreigner.
@@SandraRegina-sm1wg Take the joke and move on.
Yeah ! we still alive on that second landing. Thanks Steve'o.
Great video Steve and excellent job on bringing the Caravan down.
I told you Steveo that I am an instructor for FlightSafety on the Mustang in Orlando since 2013. From 08-12 I taught the Caravan in Wichita. The last emergency was always a fav of mine to give the clients. It is a very stressful situation that demands very fine touch/feel for the controls. Did you ever come through FSI during that period? I remember asking you about a couple that I believe were in charge of Watermakers and you said the man had passed. Very sad, they were awesome to work with. Anyway, great job dealing with the elevator issue, very demanding!
I WANT to be able to say "Michael Jackson" taught ME to fly the Mustang...BITCHES. :P lolz ;)
And Michael Jackson was our Mustang recurrent training instructor at FSI in Orlando. He was one of our favorites and managed to teach us a lot.
Thank Mike Murdock!
Michael Jackson Did you know Bill Sentilles in Wichita? He taught the caravan at FlightSafety.
Yes i knew a Bill Sentiles in WIchita!
Why use flaps on the elevator failure? With 9700 feet available, just fly it onto the deck. might be rough but you would be alright... gradual rate of descent all the way down. Flaps just upset the aircraft.
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing the loss of elevator control.
Great to have another video Steveo -- I am still working thru many of your older ones as well - all very enjoyable. Thank you for making these.
The sim is amazing.... super nice job you did there - brilliant work. I'd fly with you any day :) That 2nd test was wicked!! - hope you never have to have that one in real flight.
what flight sim is that and WHAT SCENERY IS THAT!!!??!?!
I think it is X-plane 11 and the first scenery is Rio de Janeiro
I don't think it's X-Plane 11. Flight Safety International uses their own simulation software called the Matrix training system. www.flightsafety.com/fs_service_simulation_systems_cat.php?p=mat
the web is under maintenance unfortunately
Prepar3D is the software... amazing!
Marco Madrigal not Prepar3d. Flight Safety International has their own proprietary software called the Matrix Integrated Training Technology. It does not run on X-Plane, Prepar3d or MS sim. Check their website. www.flightsafety.com/fs_service_simulation_systemswww.flightsafety.com/fs_service_simulation_systems_cat.php?p=mat
Wow, fantastic save. Thanks for filming! Thanks to FliteSafety too
Great video! Loved watching an experienced pilot work through these!
Very quick landing...good job.
That was amazing. Your technique and skills are awesome. I was grinding my teeth through the entire control failure scenario. Great job!
Perfect Pilot flying. I would request this Pilot all the time
this was probably one of the coolest videos i've seen in a while...how nerve wrecking. Thanks for that.
Great video - always a joy to watch and this one especially. Those graphics are certainly stunning!
Amazing flying! Well done!
Looked great to me! Thanks for sharing.
You Sir, are very good. I like how you did that left turn landing.
Intense. Thanks for the ride.
Very interesting. Thank you and great job on the landing.
That's a supercool video. This is definitely one of the better videos, not that I have seen any bad one by Steveo yet. That was really smart to use elevator trim to indirectly control the elevator. That's like a 2nd, emergency control for the elevator.
So cool. Thanks for all the sweet videos steveo. Just passed IFR written exam, stoked to start flying again this Fall. Maybe one day I'll be a real pilot like you!
Hey Stevo....great to see your channel flourishing and awesome to see new and different content from you...keep up the good work...
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Really great video! Your channel just gets better and better
Nice flying and thanks for the vid, very nicely done.
Oh that was tense! Great Job!
Great video, valuable training! Congrats mate!
How cool that you used these two airports! I remember working on both of these visual databases for FSI at the VSS facility in St. Louis. I spent a lot of time on Santos Dumont, creating as accurate a terrain map as possible, then a 3D Christ statue true to its real dimensions, and even an animated cable car on Sugarloaf that moved up and down its route. That was nearly 20 years ago, so at least one generation older than this one, but wow the technology just gets better and better looking! Great flying!
Love that you went for it without pre-trying it out before videoing. awesome! great video Steve...as always ...love your stuff!
I also was listening to liveatc feed at fll during the shooting and heard the 1TB comms and thought of this channel. Very sad day over there for sure. Steve - I am a new pilot, live in Naples, and enjoy your videos very much. Very informative, professional, and well done. Thanks for taking the time to put together - I can imagine the effort.
Dang! That fist landing was buttery smooth!
One of your best episodes. Thanks!
After getting my private ticket my 3rd flight , on a 172 aero club rental my elevator failed and I had to use the trim wheel and throttle to get down. Pucker factor was high but had a great instructor that put me through that emergency a few times as well as using cabin doors as plan B emergency if issues were with the rudder. Thank you Herb Johnson.
Waaaoooo, thay was intense!... GOD bless all pilots in the world!... Happy holidays! Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍👍👍
6:10 Landing at the best airport in Brazil! Rio de Janeiro, love it!