Buy the hose kit with shut off for $20. This allows you to fill the small tank standing vertical. No need to worry about temperatures. With the tank on it’s side, it can only fill liquid to half full. Put the tank on the scale while filling. If it will not fill to two pounds. Plus the weight of the hose setup on the scale, purge the tank of air/ gas. The small tank should be lower in elevation. It should only take a couple minutes. If you want to be legal, buy the refillable tanks, that have a purge screw.
I just purchased an adapter like that. After doing research I found the seals will leak because they are not made to refill. They are weak. Soap bubble test them once in a while or get those brass screw on caps with a rubber seal to store until use. I learned to let it all out on this video. The gas that is. I used to drive a mail contractors truck years back that ran on propane. About a half hour before I reached the refill tank I had to open the doors and let the truck tank cool. It was a step van truck. We are talking about winter time here. Yeah froze my ass off. If the sending tank is colder than the receiving tank it would not fill the receiving tank. That is when the sending tank was about half or less full. One major pain in the ass to save a few cents per mile. Anyway the receiving tank needs to be cool as possible and empty as I learned here. Thanks for the video.
Yes, his problem was that he should have put his 1 lb tank in the freezer. I leave them in over night and then it will fill in 1 minute.....roughly. Pulling on that tiny valve on the side helps let out any excess air too.
Thank you for the tip. I filled my 1 lbs tank first doing upright, but you showed to do this with upside down, and multiple attempts, which I can fill my 1 lbs canister with true 1 lbs filled with propane.
@@timothykappel198 Purging the propane allows the tank to cool down. Then because the tank is colder then the 20lb tank it allows more liquid to flow into the 1lb
Side track menu: it opened in 1983. With the accent I knew you were from Nova Scotia, likely the Valley. I grew up in Berwick. Came across your channel looking to level my Deere deck. New subscribe.
Steve Small engine Saloon said to put the 1 lb. tank in the Freezer for at least two hours. He filled his tank 1 minute 20 seconds. No having to take off, and relieve any pressure. .
Kudo's first guy I have seen using my way, use an Allen wrench on the main stem to release excess air. Not the Schrader valve which will not seal so great after you fiddle it. Nice post.
If you put the 1 lb canister in the freezer for about an hour before you try to fill it and keep the 20 lb bottle in a warmer area it will transfer on the first try and it doesn't hurt to bleed off a little excess internal pressure.
If you have a pair of electronic headphones for target shooting ear protection, you can use the sound amplification feature on them to help you hear that gas flow process. You might feel a little goofy doing it, but it works 😆 .... and like several others have said, a little longer air purges will make it go much quicker. You can even wait until the gas outflow is visible near the end of the cycles. Usually requires about 3-4 cycles and less than a few minutes per bottle. I also use an Allen wrench to bleed, and never have bothered with the pre-freeze stuff.
Don't forget to CHECK the 1 lb bottle is not leaking after refill. Cover with wet thumb the opening, if you hear a faint 'splok' sound, it may be leaking - store only outdoors. Sometimes you can gently and quickly push down the refill valve to eject some propane and seat the valve better or to remove any debris that it's blocking it. Some 20 lbs tanks also have welding spatter inside at the bottom - tilt them at 45 degrees and listen to metal particles sliding inside the tank - these particles can block the tank or bottle valve during the refill. Try finding a 20 lbs tank that doesn't have this spatter - normally it should be removed at the factory before installing the tank valve
If you freeze a partially full 1 pounder and put your 20 pounder in the sun while you're doing that you will fill it in one try. If it's completely empty and you freeze it you will get 13 Oz first try.
You can reduce the pressure in the large tank by placing it in an ice bath. You can help the one pound tank receive the propane by placing it in your freezer before filling. Doing this will help to fill the cylinder more accurately. Remember that you may refill the cylinder ONLY to the 80% level. If you fill it with to much fuel the explosion hazard increases significantly if the cylinder gets too hot...like in the summer when you go camping.
Put the small one in the freezer over night you can fill it on one shot as long as the larger tank is not close to empty. Flame king sells refillable 1lb bottles has a valve you can release the vapor as its filling. Real filling station has a pump that increases the pressure to force it in larger 20lb bottle only has so much pressure in it.
Thanks for telling the real story about refilling the 1 lb bottles. It took me 6 attempts to refill it completely to 2 lbs. it only seems to accept 2 oz per fill attempt. My only question is how much to vent between fill attempts?
You need a piece of brass or copper to press that valve in the 1 pound cylinder, steel screwdriver and steel gas container has a potential for spark and a bang that will take your face off. A refrigeration mechanic supposed to know that.
I put the 1-lb'ers in the freezer and fill without any bleeding. I get a reliable and safe 10-14 oz. fill in one shot which is fine for me. You don't need to fill it all the way because bleeding may cause leaks. You're probably ok doing it your way but I want a higher level of safety. I throw them away after 4-5 refills too. Cheers and be safe
I fill it the first time until I hear it stop, then use an Allen wrench to let almost all of the gas out, until the bottle freezes in my hand. Quickly reattach and it fills up completely the second time.
If it takes more than 30 seconds to fill your 1lb cylinder, then you are doing it wrong. If you have to vent the tank while you are doing it, then you are doing it wrong. The only problem you should have is overfilling the cylinder. In that case, you should definitely vent it off until you have only 1lb in the tank. Use a full 20lb tank to fill from and put the 1lb tanks in the freezer for an hour before you start.
I attached the bottles once filled till I hear no sound then placed little bottles in freezer for 10 minutes reattached & filled till I had no sound of running gas & they were filled full or a little over
I am sure that you don't need to wait 3 minutes between fills. I have seen it done on TH-cam with less than a minute on the tank and when the pressure is released it can be released more than you are doing. I saw a guy doing it for about 4 seconds. I guess you can get a feel for it. I purchased a stand and a filler with a shut off. It is definitely worth doing because the expense of those 1-pound tanks is ridiculous. Thanks for your video. You might try burping it a bit longer and just waiting until you can't hear the gas going in to repeat process. I have a Little Buddy heater for my blind and an Ugly Annealer that needs to use those small tanks. People should make sure they don't leak as well and maybe purchase some brass caps with seals for the tanks they fill. Thanks again for your video it is always good to see a variety of ways people DIY.
It takes 5 mins to fill the tank purge it hook it up fill till it stops hissing unhook purge repeat 2 more times and it's usually right at 1 pound for me. I can fill up 5 cans to your 1
Unless you have super-hearing, when you no longer hear propane going from the 20 lb tank to the 1 lb, it is still slowly filling (I've listened with a stethoscope). So if you want to keep putting in 3 oz., taking off the tank & purging it, screwing it on again & putting another 3 oz in, then go for it. Myself, with a full 20 pound tank for the 1st 5 refills I will let it fill for around 9 minutes & upon weighing it will be close to 1 pound (it doesn't need to be absolutely full). The middle 5 refills will take around 15 minutes, & the final refills will take longer as the 20 pounder will become more empty & it will take longer. So there is no need to keep taking the 1 pounder off & on until it is filled unless you enjoy doing that. I don't.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic My trouble is that even 9 minutes at the start is too long to just wait, so I get to doing something else, thinking I'll remember. Then even after 11 minutes for the first ones the 1 lb bottle ends up weighing 2 pounds or a little more. Also when filling them outside in the cold winter weather the big tank gets cold when I'm filling a lot of the bottles and then it slows down to nothing. But I hate having to take the bottle off & on to get it filled.
Place, those green 1 pounders, in the deep freeze overnight. This, will reduce the atmospheric pressure, of the air inside it ; thereby allowing the liquid propane, to nearly fill it up, to the 0.9 pound limit, of those green pressure vessels. Keep the large 20 pounder, at normal temperature; even slightly warmer ; like leave them in the sunshine for a morning. Easier to fill 'er up....this method.
@@dewayneyoung7019 let some pressure out just before you fill- takes about 1 minute with a cold bottle. Test the valves with soapy water when done for leaks.
One of my tanks has a green rubber gasket on the cylinder the other does not. The canister without the gasket filled immediately, but the one with the green gasket will not attach correctly . Is this a factory error?
Just filled 16 bottles, two shots per bottle, roughly 5 minutes to fill an empty bottle. I purge 5 seconds between shots. I let the 20 lb tank sit inside so it reaches room temperature and the bottles outside at just below freezing, never tried filling in summer. Do the filling outside. 20 lb tank stays upside down and disturbed as little as possible. I have not had success using the pressure relief valve method as the valve does not always seat properly once disturbed. Saved $112 plus tax. Have done this for years. Hope this helps someone, but remember none of this is recommended.
I did it exactly the way you did it but don't leave it on for 5 minutes, it takes about 2 minutes each time to hear it stop running in , then bleed air about 8 to 10 pushes then put back on 2 more times , total about 5 to 6 minutes to fill , not a half hour
You are not bleeding air, you are bleeding propane. The liquid propane boils inside the cannister to replace the vapor that was bled off, and cools the cannister. Then you can fill it some more.
I've bought one of those adapters in the 1980's and was NEVER able to get more than 3-4 ounces into the 1 lb cylinder. We were told to put the 1 lb cylinder in the freezer; still no luck... I see now, because I did not know to bleed it like you showed here... Thank you. If I can find the old adapter, I'll try again. It's the 'reverse' thread adapter like you showed here. And yes, I still have some of the old 20 (and 10) lb cylinders, and a couple of them still have LP gas in them... I don't know if I can get them refilled...
i don't understand why there wouldn't be equilibrium between the two takes once the valve was opened. Why wouldn't the basically equalize in pressure instantly?
I always put mine in the freezer for about 20 min prior! Pro tip wear gloves if you do it this way! The green tank will get really cold so handling it will be miserable!
The reason it says dispose of is because the materials that go into making these is lower grade & it can deadly if the vessel burst.not to mention that your putting others in harms way if it ruptured the much larger vessel.just be safe.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic If you have a pair of electronic headphones for target shooting ear protection, you can use the sound amplification feature on them to help you hear that gas flow process. You might feel a little goofy doing it, but it works :) .... and like several others have said, a little longer air purges will make it go much quicker. You can even wait until the gas outflow is visible near the end of the cycles. Usually requires about 3-4 cycles and less than 5 minutes per bottle. Never have bothered with the pre-freeze stuff.
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It is best to do this operation outdoors with good ventilation, not in your garage. Also, put your canisters in the freezer for one hour before filling and it will only take two fills with proper venting to get your canisters filled with one pound of propane.
Dumb question, could you kindly explain the reason for bleeding/relieving the pressure each time? Why can't you leave it filling for 30min once rather than doing it over 5 to 6 times? Thank you!
This video is ridiculous. It only takes about 30 seconds to do and you dont need to vent the small tank when you do it. Just put the 1lb tank in the freezer for about an hour, use a full 20lb tank and be careful not to overfill it....20-30 seconds
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic I dont know why YOU do, but I never have. I've been doing this for years. The gas bareley transfers unless you cool the 1lb cylinder. Keep the 20lb tank room/garage temperature and put the 1lb in the freezer for 45 min. It only takes 30 seconds and no need to vent. You just have to be careful no to overfill them, as they fill very fast. If you are still having issues, you must have a bad tank adapter.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic if it took 30 minutes to refil a $5 cylinder why would you bother doing it?...a $5 cylinder costing you $20 just dosent make sense, just buy another one if that was the case. But, since you can fill 6-8 of them in 20 minutes it makes sense to do.
you could have saved a lot of time by putting the empty tank in the freezer for a few hours. then the liquid propane will flow into the empty tank without turning into gas and stopping the flow
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if you put an empty 1 pound tank in the freezer and set the 20 pound tank out in the sun to heat it up, at least for me it fills up the 1 pounders pretty quick. maybe it will help someone stay safe
This video shows the slowest method I've seen on TH-cam. I've been this other placed the 1lb tank in the freezer, and it gets filled up within a minute. And didn't need purging. Is that accurate?
it cools down the little tank, assuming it has any liquid propane in it. it's easier to cool them down in the freezer, and that will remind you to use gloves :-)
It doesn't work using propane tanks you get at the swap out locations due there is a safety valve that keeps liquid from coming out when upside down. It has to be the old style tanks without this valve.
people send their children to school so they can watch tv 12 hours a day. id say if you can leave a school shooter at school for 12 hours a day unattended with some real scrubs then gas is fine for 30 minutes unattended for
My kinda video. To the point, stayed on point, and covered all the points. Thank you sir.
Best how to video on this process yet! Great job, clear, concise, no drama or bs.
Thx
nice that you showed it's not a simple as the others try to show, reattach a few times to get it full
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This way you add more pressure on the cylinder and valve that are not meant to be refilled…it’s even worse
Buy the hose kit with shut off for $20. This allows you to fill the small tank standing vertical. No need to worry about temperatures.
With the tank on it’s side, it can only fill liquid to half full.
Put the tank on the scale while filling. If it will not fill to two pounds. Plus the weight of the hose setup on the scale, purge the tank of air/ gas.
The small tank should be lower in elevation.
It should only take a couple minutes.
If you want to be legal, buy the refillable tanks, that have a purge screw.
Thanks for the video. I didn’t know the time line for refilling
The 1 lb tanks. Still worth the savings tough. Thanks for the video.
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In internet said only takes 30 second. Takes more time. Thanks for video
I just purchased an adapter like that. After doing research I found the seals will leak because they are not made to refill. They are weak. Soap bubble test them once in a while or get those brass screw on caps with a rubber seal to store until use. I learned to let it all out on this video. The gas that is. I used to drive a mail contractors truck years back that ran on propane. About a half hour before I reached the refill tank I had to open the doors and let the truck tank cool. It was a step van truck. We are talking about winter time here. Yeah froze my ass off. If the sending tank is colder than the receiving tank it would not fill the receiving tank. That is when the sending tank was about half or less full. One major pain in the ass to save a few cents per mile. Anyway the receiving tank needs to be cool as possible and empty as I learned here. Thanks for the video.
Yes, his problem was that he should have put his 1 lb tank in the freezer. I leave them in over night and then it will fill in 1 minute.....roughly.
Pulling on that tiny valve on the side helps let out any excess air too.
Thank you for the tip. I filled my 1 lbs tank first doing upright, but you showed to do this with upside down, and multiple attempts, which I can fill my 1 lbs canister with true 1 lbs filled with propane.
purge it for 6 or 7 seconds. do this 2 times. will save you alot of wasted time.
thx for extra info
Why purge it there should only be a small amount of propane left inside of the little bottles
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Purging the propane allows the tank to cool down. Then because the tank is colder then the 20lb tank it allows more liquid to flow into the 1lb
@@liv04soccer so does putting it in the freezer for about 15 min!
@@karenosborne8600 doesnt do much!
Side track menu: it opened in 1983. With the accent I knew you were from Nova Scotia, likely the Valley. I grew up in Berwick.
Came across your channel looking to level my Deere deck. New subscribe.
Lol. Awesome. I’m about 4 mins from Berwick.
grateful to learn that! i sent this link to my friend who has a bunch of those :)
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Steve Small engine Saloon said to put the 1 lb. tank in the Freezer for at least two hours. He filled his tank 1 minute 20 seconds. No having to take off, and relieve any pressure. .
Tried that, doesn’t work. It does helps a bit
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic Wonder why it worked for Steve? th-cam.com/video/GrqxlBhx6yY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Steve%27sSmallEngineSaloon
I didn’t see Steve weigh the tank after he filled it.
Kudo's first guy I have seen using my way, use an Allen wrench on the main stem to release excess air. Not the Schrader valve which will not seal so great after you fiddle it. Nice post.
It’s not air there’s no air in those tanks. It’s gas vapors.
I’ve always just faddled the Schrader valve
I fill my tanks the same. But, now I know I've measured my weight wrong ? THANKS MAN , YOUR VIDEO WAS VERY HELPFUL ........Oops
Glad it helped
If you put the 1 lb canister in the freezer for about an hour before you try to fill it and keep the 20 lb bottle in a warmer area it will transfer on the first try and it doesn't hurt to bleed off a little excess internal pressure.
I leave the 20 # tank in the sun while I put all the 1# in freezer for an hour. They fill up quickly
If you have a pair of electronic headphones for target shooting ear protection, you can use the sound amplification feature on them to help you hear that gas flow process. You might feel a little goofy doing it, but it works 😆 .... and like several others have said, a little longer air purges will make it go much quicker. You can even wait until the gas outflow is visible near the end of the cycles. Usually requires about 3-4 cycles and less than a few minutes per bottle. I also use an Allen wrench to bleed, and never have bothered with the pre-freeze stuff.
👍 Lol. I could use my Hearing Aids.
Good video, short and sweet. The Habs flag in the background gets you the 👍🏽
Lol. Thx…
Don't forget to CHECK the 1 lb bottle is not leaking after refill. Cover with wet thumb the opening, if you hear a faint 'splok' sound, it may be leaking - store only outdoors. Sometimes you can gently and quickly push down the refill valve to eject some propane and seat the valve better or to remove any debris that it's blocking it. Some 20 lbs tanks also have welding spatter inside at the bottom - tilt them at 45 degrees and listen to metal particles sliding inside the tank - these particles can block the tank or bottle valve during the refill. Try finding a 20 lbs tank that doesn't have this spatter - normally it should be removed at the factory before installing the tank valve
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Good video! Very informative.
If you freeze a partially full 1 pounder and put your 20 pounder in the sun while you're doing that you will fill it in one try. If it's completely empty and you freeze it you will get 13 Oz first try.
Hard to do if you are filling a lot at one time . I refill 30 bottles each time I refill.
You can reduce the pressure in the large tank by placing it in an ice bath. You can help the one pound tank receive the propane by placing it in your freezer before filling.
Doing this will help to fill the cylinder more accurately. Remember that you may refill the cylinder ONLY to the 80% level. If you fill it with to much fuel the explosion hazard increases significantly if the cylinder gets too hot...like in the summer when you go camping.
Put the small one in the freezer over night you can fill it on one shot as long as the larger tank is not close to empty. Flame king sells refillable 1lb bottles has a valve you can release the vapor as its filling. Real filling station has a pump that increases the pressure to force it in larger 20lb bottle only has so much pressure in it.
Thanks for telling the real story about refilling the 1 lb bottles. It took me 6 attempts to refill it completely to 2 lbs. it only seems to accept 2 oz per fill attempt. My only question is how much to vent between fill attempts?
I vent out about 2-3secs at a time.
You need a piece of brass or copper to press that valve in the 1 pound cylinder, steel screwdriver and steel gas container has a potential for spark and a bang that will take your face off. A refrigeration mechanic supposed to know that.
You are absolutely right on that one. But the inlet is lined with plastic so it will not make contact with the tank,
I put the 1-lb'ers in the freezer and fill without any bleeding. I get a reliable and safe 10-14 oz. fill in one shot which is fine for me.
You don't need to fill it all the way because bleeding may cause leaks. You're probably ok doing it your way but I want a higher level of safety. I throw them away after 4-5 refills too.
Cheers and be safe
There is a bleeder valve on the 1 pound canister than when pushed will allow more propane into the tank and faster
The bleeder valve has to be pulled up with needle nose pliers to vent. It is actually a pressure safety valve.
Stick the tanks in the freezer for 30 mins and it will suck the liquid in and prevent the waste of purging gas and save you all that time.
Tried that and it does help...... thx..
Put your 1 lb tank in the freezer first to get it cold and that will help in the filling process
I fill it the first time until I hear it stop, then use an Allen wrench to let almost all of the gas out, until the bottle freezes in my hand. Quickly reattach and it fills up completely the second time.
I’ll try that. Thx.
Use forceps on relief valve till liquid shoots out you'll put it on once and take it off once done
That is how I do it
If it takes more than 30 seconds to fill your 1lb cylinder, then you are doing it wrong. If you have to vent the tank while you are doing it, then you are doing it wrong. The only problem you should have is overfilling the cylinder. In that case, you should definitely vent it off until you have only 1lb in the tank.
Use a full 20lb tank to fill from and put the 1lb tanks in the freezer for an hour before you start.
This is what I did and it only takes 30 seconds! 👍
@@TravelingGrannyits easy to overfill them though. Use a scale to weigh them before and after to make sure.
@@floriduhman9520 I weighed them until it shows almost 2lbs!👍
30 seconds!?
Should you open the 20lb all the way
Thank you for show and let to know
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I attached the bottles once filled till I hear no sound then placed little bottles in freezer for 10 minutes reattached & filled till I had no sound of running gas & they were filled full or a little over
The propane has a second purge on the top near the main Schrader valve, can you use it that one?
Wow you have so excitement!!
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I am sure that you don't need to wait 3 minutes between fills. I have seen it done on TH-cam with less than a minute on the tank and when the pressure is released it can be released more than you are doing. I saw a guy doing it for about 4 seconds. I guess you can get a feel for it. I purchased a stand and a filler with a shut off. It is definitely worth doing because the expense of those 1-pound tanks is ridiculous. Thanks for your video. You might try burping it a bit longer and just waiting until you can't hear the gas going in to repeat process. I have a Little Buddy heater for my blind and an Ugly Annealer that needs to use those small tanks. People should make sure they don't leak as well and maybe purchase some brass caps with seals for the tanks they fill. Thanks again for your video it is always good to see a variety of ways people DIY.
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It takes 5 mins to fill the tank purge it hook it up fill till it stops hissing unhook purge repeat 2 more times and it's usually right at 1 pound for me. I can fill up 5 cans to your 1
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Unless you have super-hearing, when you no longer hear propane going from the 20 lb tank to the 1 lb, it is still slowly filling (I've listened with a stethoscope). So if you want to keep putting in 3 oz., taking off the tank & purging it, screwing it on again & putting another 3 oz in, then go for it. Myself, with a full 20 pound tank for the 1st 5 refills I will let it fill for around 9 minutes & upon weighing it will be close to 1 pound (it doesn't need to be absolutely full). The middle 5 refills will take around 15 minutes, & the final refills will take longer as the 20 pounder will become more empty & it will take longer. So there is no need to keep taking the 1 pounder off & on until it is filled unless you enjoy doing that. I don't.
I tried that and it does cut it down by one or two fill cycles. But I have no patience. lol...
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic My trouble is that even 9 minutes at the start is too long to just wait, so I get to doing something else, thinking I'll remember. Then even after 11 minutes for the first ones the 1 lb bottle ends up weighing 2 pounds or a little more. Also when filling them outside in the cold winter weather the big tank gets cold when I'm filling a lot of the bottles and then it slows down to nothing. But I hate having to take the bottle off & on to get it filled.
Place, those green 1 pounders, in the deep freeze overnight. This, will reduce the atmospheric pressure, of the air inside it ; thereby allowing the liquid propane, to nearly fill it up, to the 0.9 pound limit, of those green pressure vessels. Keep the large 20 pounder, at normal temperature; even slightly warmer ; like leave them in the sunshine for a morning. Easier to fill 'er up....this method.
the tanks do not weight the same there is variability, nice video!
Have you ever let all the pressure out of these tanks, then re-filled it? It seems, to me, like you would get more liquid propane back in it.
I did. No difference on the refill time.
I've been refilling for a couple of years. The fastest way to refill is to freeze canisters before refilling. Just be careful not to overfill.
Does freezing them cause them to fill faster?
@@dewayneyoung7019 lowers the presure int he small tank allowing morein
@@dewayneyoung7019 let some pressure out just before you fill- takes about 1 minute with a cold bottle. Test the valves with soapy water when done for leaks.
If my canister is rated for net weight 14.1oz i should refill only thay much or less?
One of my tanks has a green rubber gasket on the cylinder the other does not. The canister without the gasket filled immediately, but the one with the green gasket will not attach correctly . Is this a factory error?
Has to be a factory error.
Which one the error, the one with or the one without.
Was the tank attached to an old BBQ? The gasket might've came from the connector. Just removed it.
Bought the adapter never attempted yet 👍🏻
What I want to know is if there's an adapter for using the 20pound tank on the camping stove? TIA
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Just filled 16 bottles, two shots per bottle, roughly 5 minutes to fill an empty bottle. I purge 5 seconds between shots. I let the 20 lb tank sit inside so it reaches room temperature and the bottles outside at just below freezing, never tried filling in summer. Do the filling outside. 20 lb tank stays upside down and disturbed as little as possible. I have not had success using the pressure relief valve method as the valve does not always seat properly once disturbed. Saved $112 plus tax. Have done this for years. Hope this helps someone, but remember none of this is recommended.
Awesome
I did it exactly the way you did it but don't leave it on for 5 minutes, it takes about 2 minutes each time to hear it stop running in , then bleed air about 8 to 10 pushes then put back on 2 more times , total about 5 to 6 minutes to fill , not a half hour
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You are not bleeding air, you are bleeding propane. The liquid propane boils inside the cannister to replace the vapor that was bled off, and cools the cannister. Then you can fill it some more.
Cool video. Do you know how to do that with a 100 gallon tank so that you can fill the tanks like the one you turned upside down?
I only use 20 and 30lbs tanks. Easier to turn the tank upside down.
tip the big tank I think it helps fill better.
Pull up the relieve valve, and you can fill them in a few seconds
I've bought one of those adapters in the 1980's and was NEVER able to get more than 3-4 ounces into the 1 lb cylinder. We were told to put the 1 lb cylinder in the freezer; still no luck... I see now, because I did not know to bleed it like you showed here... Thank you. If I can find the old adapter, I'll try again. It's the 'reverse' thread adapter like you showed here. And yes, I still have some of the old 20 (and 10) lb cylinders, and a couple of them still have LP gas in them... I don't know if I can get them refilled...
The 20lbs tank has a date stamped on it. It’s good for Ten years from that date. Check to see if the 10 lbs tank has a date on it to.
They sell an adapter on Amazon for the old tanks then you can connect your refill adapter to that. Wala!
Trade the tanks in on full ones at a grocery store. Worked for me
Thanks for the video! Solved my issue. 👍
i don't understand why there wouldn't be equilibrium between the two takes once the valve was opened. Why wouldn't the basically equalize in pressure instantly?
Don’t know why, It just doesn’t.
I thought that the LP tanks had shut off valves built-in to prevent free flowing when tipped over. Did you Jimmy your valve?
It does have a shut-off valve. You have to press it in to release some pressure.
I think he’s talking about the 20 pound tank.
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The adapter opens the "shut-off" valve.
why are you not using the other "safety" valve to vent that way you arent taking it apart so much
The one I use to faster and easier.
Forget about saving $. The real reason to do this is there are no 1lb bottles. As in NONE. ANYWHERE.
I always put mine in the freezer for about 20 min prior! Pro tip wear gloves if you do it this way! The green tank will get really cold so handling it will be miserable!
Great tip!
The reason it says dispose of is because the materials that go into making these is lower grade & it can deadly if the vessel burst.not to mention that your putting others in harms way if it ruptured the much larger vessel.just be safe.
It’s more about the rubber seals lasting then the tank.
What about some saying to freeze the bottles first? Why do they do that?
I don’t find it helps.
if you hear it fill up, then be quiet , tilt the big tank back to a 45 degree angle and you will hear it put more in the 1 lb tank
I’ll try that….
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic If you have a pair of electronic headphones for target shooting ear protection, you can use the sound amplification feature on them to help you hear that gas flow process. You might feel a little goofy doing it, but it works :) .... and like several others have said, a little longer air purges will make it go much quicker. You can even wait until the gas outflow is visible near the end of the cycles. Usually requires about 3-4 cycles and less than 5 minutes per bottle. Never have bothered with the pre-freeze stuff.
Good video. A link to the amazon part would have been nice.
Link: www.amazon.com/GASPRO-Propane-Refill-Adapter-Bottles/dp/B01N3CWU1E/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=TBK6IN2ZM2ER&keywords=propane+refill&qid=1644849068&sprefix=propane+refill%2Caps%2C237&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUEdTUVRCQ1RFSzI5JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzczNzY2Mk03MlBSMElZVEUwRiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzYwOTc0MzFUM1BSUTFCRFYyTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
What I'd like to know is if there's an adapter for the appliance that would take the 20pound tank... for instance a Buddy Heater etc.
@@ayechapin1 Is this what you're looking for?
www.amazon.com/KOMAN-High-Pressure-Converter-Replacement-Appliances/dp/B08FRVQH9Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FYNV9NKARNNQ&keywords=buddy%2Bheater%2Badapter%2B20lbs&qid=1648816645&sprefix=buddy%2Bheater%2Badapter%2B20lbs%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUEdPSEU2SVBXRVhBJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjc0MjUxMlhCNVZZTzRPMFpGOCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA1Nzc1MlNSNllaVERQQkM3UCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1
Do you need an ice pick to stick in that tiny hole to depress the valve ?
That would be too sharp of a point..
If you put your empty tank in the freezer over night the tank will fill in less thank 2 minutes.
Recommended by the manufacturer
It does helps…
Theses disposables are cheap made and can hurt you.
Buy the refillable ones, they are thicker and the welding is better on them.
It is best to do this operation outdoors with good ventilation, not in your garage. Also, put your canisters in the freezer for one hour before filling and it will only take two fills with proper venting to get your canisters filled with one pound of propane.
👍. Both my side door and front garage doors were open. And I did vent the bottle outside.
Ii tried to top off my tank and instead of filling up. I lost more gas. Why?
Check your valve seals.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic seal is good
Thanks man
Dumb question, could you kindly explain the reason for bleeding/relieving the pressure each time? Why can't you leave it filling for 30min once rather than doing it over 5 to 6 times? Thank you!
The pressure inside equalizes and stops filling.
This video is ridiculous. It only takes about 30 seconds to do and you dont need to vent the small tank when you do it.
Just put the 1lb tank in the freezer for about an hour, use a full 20lb tank and be careful not to overfill it....20-30 seconds
@@floriduhman9520 Freezing the tank helps a bit. You still have to vent it.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic I dont know why YOU do, but I never have. I've been doing this for years. The gas bareley transfers unless you cool the 1lb cylinder. Keep the 20lb tank room/garage temperature and put the 1lb in the freezer for 45 min. It only takes 30 seconds and no need to vent. You just have to be careful no to overfill them, as they fill very fast.
If you are still having issues, you must have a bad tank adapter.
@@WeekendHobbyMechanic if it took 30 minutes to refil a $5 cylinder why would you bother doing it?...a $5 cylinder costing you $20 just dosent make sense, just buy another one if that was the case. But, since you can fill 6-8 of them in 20 minutes it makes sense to do.
You know if you freeze the 1 lb tank. It will fill quicker
you could have saved a lot of time by putting the empty tank in the freezer for a few hours. then the liquid propane will flow into the empty tank without turning into gas and stopping the flow
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Just tried it with a new 1lb tank and there is anti tamper devices in it and a one way valve to stop you doing this.
The one way valve is to keep the propane in the tank.
Watch the video again.
80% is all you want to fill those guy.
If they heat up for any reason there's no space for expansion.
All these professional 1lb tank refillers in thecomments. Ggeezzuusss
You neglected to empty the tank before weighing it to determine the empty tank weight. It still had an unknown amount of propane contained in it.
Better to weigh them new and then fill to same weight
450 grams
You do realize every time you fill a bottle. The bottle has less pressure might have volume but less pressure.
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if you put an empty 1 pound tank in the freezer and set the 20 pound tank out in the sun to heat it up, at least for me it fills up the 1 pounders pretty quick. maybe it will help someone stay safe
That would help.....
That or using a fresh filled 20lb tank to start.. That's what I do when possible..
@@deemon9978 It helps a bit.
This video shows the slowest method I've seen on TH-cam. I've been this other placed the 1lb tank in the freezer, and it gets filled up within a minute. And didn't need purging. Is that accurate?
Put the one pound tank in the freezer for an hour before filling and you shouldn't have to purge it at all.
That isn't the cheapest way.
The cheapest way is from the 500-gallon bulk tank near your kitchen.
You need to purge all of the air out
Would you like to test propane refill hose with adapter ?
I don’t test hoses….
Chuck the bottle in the freezer and it'll fill em in 1 go
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If put the bottle in the fridge and the tank out in the sun it will fill with no problem!
do u know how dangerous this is
Why do you have to let the air out before you refill?
It stops filling when the pressure equalizes.
it cools down the little tank, assuming it has any liquid propane in it. it's easier to cool them down in the freezer, and that will remind you to use gloves :-)
@@wim0104 I tried that and it’s faster.
Has anyone told you, you look like George Clooney's brother?
That’s a first. I have a few that told me I look like Robert Downey Jr. hahaha
Buy the refillable tanks! This is an unsafe practice! Always be safe! The life you save may just be your own!
It's only unsafe if there is an open flame around!
Place tank in freezer 2 hours before filling
Je wiss if it takes that many on and off and purging, it isn’t worth time spent , I’ll just go buy new ones
Freeze the green tank before filling.
It doesn't work using propane tanks you get at the swap out locations due there is a safety valve that keeps liquid from coming out when upside down. It has to be the old style tanks without this valve.
Not true at all. The valve on the tank has nothing to do with anything
There is always someone with a stupid theory commenting on a subject that knows nothing.
So far so good. Still working for me..
Lol. I do it all of the time.
@@cofee28 please explain how to do it!!!
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30 mins? I fill one in 5. I don't understand why it's taking 30 minutes.
Thx for the feedback. Depends on the temperature. Colder the better….
Nothing like leaving gas unattended
Sometimes you have too..
people send their children to school so they can watch tv 12 hours a day. id say if you can leave a school shooter at school for 12 hours a day unattended with some real scrubs then gas is fine for 30 minutes unattended for
lol. Did you know it is illegal to refill these and travel with them. It is a $500,000 fine and 5 yrs imprisonment.
Only illegal if you get caught.
@@tonypalmer948 lol true I guess I would have like probably $1 billion worth of fines right now
@@tonypalmer948 How does anyone tell if the canister has been re-filled ???
I went thru 36 1lb tanks in a week with a heater buddy🤣🤣
I simply hook my buddy heaters direct to a 20 lb tank
@@robertboyd3863 I just bought the adapter for that
Put the small tank in the freezer for 10 min. And it will fill in a minute or two!
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this is so stupid how this is done. just pour the damn liquid in a bucket.
Lol.