This was "race on Sunday, buy on Monday!!!!!!!!".....I was 6 years old, Louden, NH.,......standing on the roof of a '65 falcon I watched Mark Donahue, Sam Posey and Parnelli jones in the pouring rain.....I will never forget that and G*d bless my Father for taking me......the sound of that exhaust scavenging, will, like my Mothers voice, LOL, never ever left me......this was the first, best and last true road racing in the world......people like you and I could afford this, none of the European "snobs" could control this.....and they could not compete against the American V8.....unfortunately politics killed it..........
Love that little 302 revving. I had a 69 Z28 back in the late 70's. Added headers and a mild street cam. It was so much for to drive. Thanks for sharing.
Cool how Frank's car looses traction as it lightens up over the bump at the start of the main straight. Hard to drive a car this fast on a track this tight. Frank's the man!
I have a 69 Z/28 that I still have I bought it in 1971 for one reason to Autocross and road race that is all I have ever done with it. It still has the radio, console, heater and dash in it. I started out in AA sedan a stock legal class I shifted at 7,000 and turned it 7800 on the straight away. I reheated the rods to max strength and shot peen to to GM spec's. I moved up to A improved sedan (GT1 today) I then shifted at 8400 and at Pacific Race Ways I clear turn one at 8100 in forth 170 MPH I don't let off until I am going into turn 2 It is Silver with a black vinyl top.
That's the best sound in the world, Chevy small block DZ302. Monster in a little package. I could listen to this all day, I'd rather hear this than the crap on the radio!
The guy in the red shirt as Frank is backing out is my Dad. I'm behind the car giving him hand signals to turn when needed. This was the first vintage event that Thompson ran since they replaced their road course.
Dustin Lisner I did t know Chevy had a 302. Very interesting. I am a ford guy through and through but I always though the cameros looked so much more “racey” than the mustangs, but the 1970 boss helped change that for me.
@ForCornersTV I noticed coming out of the corners there is a lot of wheel-play going on. Is that a technique used to fight torque and let the car find it's way out of the corner, or is it something else ?
From the factory I believe they were 12.6:1 or 13:1 my 86 iroc had 12:1 constant velocity and my trans am 87 has 12.6:1 you can slap a person's head pretty easily with 12:1
also cool ... No surprise that he leaves P-cars in the dust on the straight, but it's amazing to watch him pass everyone in the twisty bits. I'm now afraid to get out there with Frank on the track.
@ 12:38 was that little porsche thing going backwards !??? damn man, how that Camaro crushes that poor little german thing. no mercy ! greetings to America from piss poor crumbing russia.
Where did all the other trans am cars go? Every corner this driver falls further behind. It's definitely not a lack power the car sounds amazing and I'm sure wants to kill you around every corner but sure seems like the other drivers can get the job done. Cool car, sounds great.
I see you made a comment with out knowing any thing about this race the car or the driver this car is all original the way it ran in 1973 as of Trans Am rules of that era i know I help Maintain that car with my historic Trans Am car and frank drove that car for 1970 to 1976 then sold the car then bought it back in the 1990 to restore it to race it again that is not an easy car to drive and in. This video he is in his 70s it amazes that he could still dive it that well the cars that are in front have a lot more modern components in them that make a hug advantage over franks car and by your comment I can see you have never drive a race car like we do so next time think before making a comment like that and go get a 100K and buy a car like that and see how well you do we would be lapping you See you on the track 😂
@@mddube773 Well said. Kids watch video games then YT and think they can do better. Vids dont give any clue whats really going on in that cab. Takes ability and balls to drive it as well as he did.
The engine could never do that stock. The heads can't flow that well. The only way is to bump the compression up really high. The Trans Am cars ran around 465hp and they used Ford 1:7 ratio rocker arms and Ford lifters .874 instead of GM .842. Thats why they had those stretch marks on the valve covers because they hammered them out. They didn't have after market valve covers back then.
@@496chevyrat Who said anything about "stock"??? These 302 Chevy's used in Trans Am racing were worked by the team's engine builders, and they DID indeed exceed 500 hp. That's a documented fact. The famous "Woody" 69 Camaro alone, took 1st & 2nd place in 2 different races, going up against the Shelby Cobra's & Mustangs.........that's SAYING something about how great these 302 Z-28's were. This reminds me of another example: The "Chevy mystery motor" raced in NASCAR by Ray Fox/Junior Johnson. I believe it was the 1963 year. People today claiming that motor made "around 450hp". BULLSHIT. Junior Johnson himself said they were getting well over 700 hp out of that engine, and NOTHING could touch it that year. It was a big bore, short stroke platform. Problem was, it had an inferior valve train they just couldn't get right. Junior Johnson/Ray Fox won 7 of 30 races that year, with 23 DNF's!!! That means when the motor didn't break late in the 400 & 500 mile races, it would out-run everything else on the track & win easily. Ray Fox & Junior Johnson both stated that had they been able to solve the valve train problem, they could've won every dog gone race that year. The engine was that much stronger than anything else. You can look it up. There were something like only 17 of those engines made. ( It paved the way to the 427. ) Ray Fox & Jr Johnson got 6 I believe, and Smokey Yunick got 6 as well. The remaining few engines HAD to be made available to the Ford & Chrysler teams for inspection........per race rules. But after inspection from the competing teams that weren't racing Chevy's, Junior Johnson & Ray Fox bought those few engines back from them, to make it through the season.
The beautiful sound that is the American V8.
I'm not much of a chevy guy, but I kid you not, I could listen to this all day
Sounds more like a Chrysler engine. No chevy bog there!
@@JBM9823 small block Chevy lol probably a 302
Naturally aspirated small block Chevy pushing 500 plus horses music to my ears
Mad respect to these guys. These cars are a handful to muscle around any track
Well said . Owners of any newer muscle would wreck this in a hot second with no nannies to save em
This was "race on Sunday, buy on Monday!!!!!!!!".....I was 6 years old, Louden, NH.,......standing on the roof of a '65 falcon I watched Mark Donahue, Sam Posey and Parnelli jones in the pouring rain.....I will never forget that and G*d bless my Father for taking me......the sound of that exhaust scavenging, will, like my Mothers voice, LOL, never ever left me......this was the first, best and last true road racing in the world......people like you and I could afford this, none of the European "snobs" could control this.....and they could not compete against the American V8.....unfortunately politics killed it..........
Lol...
They say don’t meet your heros. Well they’re wrong. Just what i figured it would be like to ride in this legend. Music to my ears
Love that little 302 revving. I had a 69 Z28 back in the late 70's. Added headers and a mild street cam. It was so much for to drive. Thanks for sharing.
I had one too, didn't need to do anything other than adjust the solid lifters. Weak link was pressed in rocker studs
Cool how Frank's car looses traction as it lightens up over the bump at the start of the main straight. Hard to drive a car this fast on a track this tight. Frank's the man!
I have a 69 Z/28 that I still have I bought it in 1971 for one reason to Autocross and road race that is all I have ever done with it. It still has the radio, console, heater and dash in it. I started out in AA sedan a stock legal class I shifted at 7,000 and turned it 7800 on the straight away. I reheated the rods to max strength and shot peen to to GM spec's. I moved up to A improved sedan (GT1 today) I then shifted at 8400 and at Pacific Race Ways I clear turn one at 8100 in forth 170 MPH I don't let off until I am going into turn 2 It is Silver with a black vinyl top.
What rear gear ratios did these guys typically run? 3.4? 3.7?
Nothing like American steel showing a Porsche how it's done
That's the best sound in the world, Chevy small block DZ302. Monster in a little package. I could listen to this all day, I'd rather hear this than the crap on the radio!
Music to my ears. I could listen to that DZ 302 purr all day long.
Hahah that's more of a ROAR!!! I love it.
i love the litte jump near the coner worker stand
The guy in the red shirt as Frank is backing out is my Dad. I'm behind the car giving him hand signals to turn when needed. This was the first vintage event that Thompson ran since they replaced their road course.
That man right there can FLAT OUT drive that race car, no doubt.
YYYEEEESSSSS!!!!! That's it. I love it. Thanks a lot!
Wicked understeer! Nice job!
Love the sound
Engine and transmission sound great! Got some spring rates and camber work she'll see the front 👍
Great pass @ 12:40. Just blew the doors off that 911 screaming at 8000 + rpm. That dz 302 is a screamer.
Man...8k rpms of small block goodness
That was fun ! Thanks.
Love it DZ 302 best engine ever.
Track TA engines were really 305 cubic inch. They used every cubic inch the rules allowed.
302 Chevrolet. As good as it gets.
How do you know? Just curious.
@@ThePerpetualStudent I know I'm a little late but the Z28 package included a hi performance 302
Dustin Lisner I did t know Chevy had a 302. Very interesting. I am a ford guy through and through but I always though the cameros looked so much more “racey” than the mustangs, but the 1970 boss helped change that for me.
@@ThePerpetualStudent they only put it into the 67-69 Z28s it was basically a 327 with a 283 crank. They were definitely rev monsters.
@@dustinlisner7405 exactly what the were designed to do and they did it amazingly
What a cool car/history. I wonder how few of these old "pure racers" are out there still going.
Mark Donahue.......my Hero
I need that car something bad!!!
Damn, I'm tired just from watching you saw that wheel. So, what was the black flag for? Thanks for posting!
I like how he has to physically pulse the brakes himself since these cars didn't have ABS...dude was driving the balls off this thing. 😳
Probably non vacuum assisted brakes too
it was also done to help get a little heat into them as well as making sure the pads were properly spaced from the rotor so they'd grab evenly
A lot of cab for a little 302!
@ForCornersTV I noticed coming out of the corners there is a lot of wheel-play going on. Is that a technique used to fight torque and let the car find it's way out of the corner, or is it something else ?
The only way to fight torque on these is to not press the gas.
fucking great!!!
looove..but geeez that tach needle
why kind of steering rack does the car use? im guessing it is a manual but what is the ratio and where do i get one?
From the factory I believe they were 12.6:1 or 13:1 my 86 iroc had 12:1 constant velocity and my trans am 87 has 12.6:1 you can slap a person's head pretty easily with 12:1
No, that's power steering. Frank custom made it. At that time he was 75 years old.
The lap after the black flag lap was a 1:26
A great video. Wish I was in the passenger seat
also cool ... No surprise that he leaves P-cars in the dust on the straight, but it's amazing to watch him pass everyone in the twisty bits. I'm now afraid to get out there with Frank on the track.
Hammerdoon!!
black flag why?
NASCAR punks of today could never drive this old school Camaro
I would trade all my cars an trucks for this car
@ 12:38 was that little porsche thing going backwards !??? damn man, how that Camaro crushes that poor little german thing. no mercy ! greetings to America from piss poor crumbing russia.
нет русский
no, im russian from shitty russia.
Real USA steel
No junk import tin here!
Nothing sounds as badazz as a Gen 1 at high rpm period. Well except a BB doing the same!
Where did all the other trans am cars go? Every corner this driver falls further behind. It's definitely not a lack power the car sounds amazing and I'm sure wants to kill you around every corner but sure seems like the other drivers can get the job done. Cool car, sounds great.
I see you made a comment with out knowing any thing about this race the car or the driver this car is all original the way it ran in 1973 as of Trans Am rules of that era i know I help
Maintain that car with my historic Trans Am car and frank drove that car for 1970 to 1976 then sold the car then bought it back in the 1990 to restore it to race it again that is not an easy car to drive and in. This video he is in his 70s it amazes that he could still dive it that well the cars that are in front have a lot more modern components in them that make a hug advantage over franks car and by your comment I can see you have never drive a race car like we do so next time think before making a comment like that and go get a 100K and buy a car like that and see how well you do we would be lapping you
See you on the track 😂
@@mddube773 Well said.
Kids watch video games then YT and think they can do better.
Vids dont give any clue whats really going on in that cab. Takes ability and balls to drive it as well as he did.
car is pretty healthy and fast for just a 302
Those 302s were actually really powerful. High compression, high revving. They made about 400 horsepower.
400? in fact they made more like 500 !!!!
The engine could never do that stock. The heads can't flow that well. The only way is to bump the compression up really high. The Trans Am cars ran around 465hp and they used Ford 1:7 ratio rocker arms and Ford lifters .874 instead of GM .842. Thats why they had those stretch marks on the valve covers because they hammered them out. They didn't have after market valve covers back then.
The factory single 4 bbl 302's made 445 hp @ 7400 rpm on the GM dynos. The Traco race 302's made in excess of 525 hp.
@@496chevyrat Who said anything about "stock"??? These 302 Chevy's used in Trans Am racing were worked by the team's engine builders, and they DID indeed exceed 500 hp. That's a documented fact. The famous "Woody" 69 Camaro alone, took 1st & 2nd place in 2 different races, going up against the Shelby Cobra's & Mustangs.........that's SAYING something about how great these 302 Z-28's were. This reminds me of another example: The "Chevy mystery motor" raced in NASCAR by Ray Fox/Junior Johnson. I believe it was the 1963 year. People today claiming that motor made "around 450hp". BULLSHIT. Junior Johnson himself said they were getting well over 700 hp out of that engine, and NOTHING could touch it that year. It was a big bore, short stroke platform. Problem was, it had an inferior valve train they just couldn't get right. Junior Johnson/Ray Fox won 7 of 30 races that year, with 23 DNF's!!! That means when the motor didn't break late in the 400 & 500 mile races, it would out-run everything else on the track & win easily. Ray Fox & Junior Johnson both stated that had they been able to solve the valve train problem, they could've won every dog gone race that year. The engine was that much stronger than anything else. You can look it up. There were something like only 17 of those engines made. ( It paved the way to the 427. ) Ray Fox & Jr Johnson got 6 I believe, and Smokey Yunick got 6 as well. The remaining few engines HAD to be made available to the Ford & Chrysler teams for inspection........per race rules. But after inspection from the competing teams that weren't racing Chevy's, Junior Johnson & Ray Fox bought those few engines back from them, to make it through the season.
Shift when it sputters
RAF.
Bad 67..were rear steering cars. All mascara are front steering boxes.r
Rpms ↗↖↘↙↗↖↘↙↗↖↘↙
Steers from hell.no corners action.oversteers.
Does 6500k really easy..302 z.
Yeah, It doesn't even flinch until it reaches 6500. Listen to that sound at 8000 !
he is shifting at 8200
Blows by 59 vette.
no alcanzo a los mostangs