EP33 - How to charge your Outlander PHEV @ home!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Just a short video (just kidding) about how I charge my Outlander PHEV at home and have a scheduled charge without having a timer in the car.
I introduce Andy's Garage to the channel which was born last year here:
• we finally got it righ...
(also heaps of ponies and dogs in these vlogs!!!)
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Group (Tips, Tricks, Experiences, help and assistance):
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PHEV Watchdog (Best App on the market, heavily developed. Gives you all the numbers you need to know about the battery and vehicle):
/ 152278275319772
The official PHEV WatchDog Video:
• PHEV Watchdog v0.8.1
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MBB (Kiitos paljon!)
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It's always so funny when you correct your misspoken words with a ding and the correct words.
G’day Andy,
I have a very similar setup to you, with the same DIN rail kWh meter and similar electronic time clock and isolator. I also try to charge in the ‘wee hours, and also often time the charger to not necessarily charge fully unless I think I’ll need it, just to look after the battery. My original Mitsubishi charger is permanently wired to off peak Tariff. Then I use the EVSE charger (yes, same as yours) for charging elsewhere, so I can select 6, 10, or 15 amps charge rates as required.
One thing you should mention I think, it’s also VERY important for people to also realise that it’s very good practice and responsible to NOT charge EV’s during peak hour unless absolutely necessary. 4pm till about 10pm is the worst possible time, when the grid is working very hard, and it’s in everyone’s interest to avoid that period as it avoids grid overload. Thanks for your videos, and I too am waiting for a Model 3- wonder when we will get them.
Q. How do you charge from a Tesla charge station? Do you have an account? And how do they charge you?
You're absolutely right. The charging time is very important, especially when it is very hot or cold and a lot of energy is been used during these peak times. I always start charging after 11pm to avoid these times.
You can charge from Tesla Destination chargers using this adapter and your switchable EVSE. The chargers are 'free' to use and no Tesla account is needed. The way it works is that businesses or hotels installing these chargers (subsidised by Tesla) and paying for the energy been used and maintenance. So in general they want to attract Tesla drivers but are mostly open for other EV drivers too as long as they use their business (restaurant, hotel, ...).
I dream of being able to charge at home. It would save me so much time and planning effort!
Very interesting timer box; I didn't realise such off the shelf components were available for DIY solutions. If the powers that be allow us to wire electricity into the garages long before Model 3 arrives, I may look into this kind of solution.
That's not DIY stuff. You always want an electrician to do that. The components were less than $50 though
unplugged EV Yes, I would of course get it checked by a qualified electrician and have them physically wire it to the fuse box. I have DIY experience working with 240VAC projects but always safety first.
Good video Andy. I was going to say that I haven't bothered with the timers and contactors as I have the Aspire model and it's all built into the car. But you cover it later in the video so all good. Cheers
Honestly you are not missing much. Our car has the WiFi and timer app, but frankly it kind of is a hit & miss since you can't use it in conjunction with the pre-heat/cool timer (unless they overlap before the battery is full, the climate control will ALWAYS drain from the battery, not the mains).
I'm still suffering from a Level 1 110v/12A which takes ~9hrs to charge, but I have a Chargepoint Home Level 2 station coming in next week.
I heard about that, the pre-heating uses a quite big chunk of the battery in the morning. The EVSE can only deliver 2.4kW (on 240V) and the heater has up to 4kW, so the battery is never full when you leave. The level 2 charging station will improve this slightly as it can deliver the full 3.5kW to the car.
Does the Aussie PHEV charge slower? The North American cars on a Level 2 circuit charges at 208~240v at 16A, which equates to 3.3kW to 3.7kW. The preheater still draws marginally more power than the Level 2 cord provides, but it fills up pretty darn quick.
We have 240Vwith 15A which maxs out the internal charger of the PHEV. Charging time on that power is around 3h from empty to full.
It looks super professional
Thanks, Cesar. Hahaha, it's by far not professional. Once I'll have 10.000.000 subs I can probably invest in a bit more equipment and also have someone helping me filming :)
You say some people believe they just don't need all the info that your switchable EVSE gives you, but aren't those the people who think the car manufacturer has everything figured out and that they have your best interest at heart? I don't think they (the car manufacturers) have it all figured out based on the problems you and others have with loss of range even when you care for your battery very well as you clearly do. I would want to make sure I wouldn't need to buy a new battery in just a few years when the health of the battery degrades way too quickly and no longer assists in fuel efficiency.
I agree. One one hand the manufacturer SHOULD care about their product and don't bother the customer to make such efforts figuring things out. In a normal car you don't care about what oil temperature, what vacuum the brake booster, what temperature your diff oil has. It all gets taken care of automatically.
The big problem is Mitsubishi does not take any feedback from customers onboard and does not even try to collaborate. They could easily make a (almost) perfect product in terms of the software and battery management system. Look at Tesla, they collecting tons of info from their system and constantly improving the software. I would not mind sharing all my data with Mitsubishi and even carry an extended data logger in the car just to help improving thinks. But they don't even come back with a response in regards to this bloody map update... :(
Hey Andy .. loving your videos ... interesting thing you said today is that you try to charge as close to drive time as you can. So you finish charging and get into the car. I'm wondering have you checked all your stats as soon as you finish charging on days when you don't need to drive straight away. Then leaving the car undriven and check it again in two hours ? the thought is that possibly its not dropping after driving but after charging ? The theory being that you are getting an inflated Guess'O'Meter reading from the charge. I'm considering picking one of these phevs up when my commuter finally dies. Keep making the videos and I'll keep liking them. best of luck with the Phev, Paul
Interesting theory, Paul. Yes, I checked that as well and fully charged the car without driving it. After two days it had lost only 0.2Ah. It only happens when I fully charge, drive and leave the car then for 2h. Interestingly, there is no further loss afterwards any more until I recharge and drive again...
Today another PHEV driver got in contact with me and said he's experiencing the same after initial charge and drive. Same model and year as mine... well...
AH you found someone experiencing the same phenomenon. Awesome. Are they in Australia and can therefore lock arms with you and march on MMA ? I hope this works out as it seems a great car best of luck. Paul
Paul on interesting stuff Yes, here in the country but far away. I reckon a lot at people having this problem just they don't pay attention on the GOM before and after parking.
unplugged EV yeah very true. People are used to simply getting in and driving. Unless they are very conscious of trying to stretch their ev range they would have little interest or simply not have noticed. I'm surprised it's taken so long for someone to show up as the phev watchdog seems to be very popular. Out of interest does the watchdog show live data on low and high voltage across the cells during the trip. Just wondering if a cell is dropping under the load of driving and the bouncing back when the load is off? Best wishes with the phev. Paul
The watchdog show live battery data, every single cell voltage and temperature. Daniel put a lot of effort in this app!
No bouncing cell though...
Do we need an RCD breaker for electric shock protection?
The standard granny charger from the 2019 model is the plug 10A or 15A?
They all are 15A for Australia. But it charges only with 8A for safety reasons.
do you have any idea ,
how can i have fast charging system in my home
You cannot fast charge the PHEV at home. The car's charger can handle only 3.6kW which will result in 3-3.5h charging time. That's the fasted you will get.
For everything else you can plug the car into a CHAdeMO public charger and charge from 30-80% in around 35min.
unplugged EV but I heard that there is a charging station for home which can change 80% within 30 to 40 minutes
You heard? This could only be a DC/DC station but I never 'heard' about someone has got one at home. The electrical supply would be the same as for the whole house.
Let us know if you can get a link to a website or so...
I’ve got an i3 so I just set it in the car but I really wanted to ask you have you considered the Bollinger B1. th-cam.com/video/-dav55oUJ-w/w-d-xo.html
Probably not... I would have no need for such a... truck.
unplugged EV I think it has options where you can cover it like an SUV.
The look is not the greatest, it does not look like they have any LTE/app connection, the price will be over US$60k and it will take 100yrs until it comes to Australia. I'm not doing any 4WD but a lot of highway driving, the efficiency of this boxy truck will be bad (they talked about the 100kWh pack will provide only 200miles of range). All in total not a car I'm interested in at all... What do you think of it?