Personally, I feel like stage hazards get better when there's more players, since instead of forcing you to work around them to fight your one, singular opponent, the hazards just facilitate you not targeting any one person
Yeah I’d LOVE to have it let you choose specific hazards to place onto a stage. I’m sure it’d be hard to implement but I think it’d definitely be worth it!
If anyone is wondering, the toggle on Pac-Land turns off: Hydrant water The bonuses that are caused by moving stumps/hydrants The ship and water spouts on the bridge The Wing Shoes The Super Pac item The collapsing and spinning bridges The springboard And the moving cloud platforms
Odyssey: "Now I'm not gonna rank each and every hazard individually as that would be a bit absurd" (0:25) Also odyssey: "at 100k I will rank every moon in Mario odyssey" (1:42)
I was so mad when I first found out that Dr. Wily's castle with hazards off didn't just make the yellow devil disappear, but the platforms too. We could have had a unique, likely tournament legal stage, but instead we got Final Destination with walls.
"it also has these moving platforms, but who cares..." I do. Those platforms on Wily Castle are neat references to various Mega Man games, have unique functions compared to other platforms in the Smash, and would make the stage actually interesting and not just a flat stage. The problem is that you barely get to see them even with hazards on because they don't spawn when the Yellow Devil does. A version of the stage with platforms but without the devil would be awesome. You'd get a more interesting stage and actually get to see the platforms to their fullest.
The reason why the dive into the heart part of Hollow Bastion is a hazard is because Steve goes from mining stone to mining iron in it, so it does affect gameplay. Edit: guys please stop, I know now this is not true.
Just turn them off when Steve's being played then? Removing something that's super hype and visually beautiful just because of one character is the lamest shit ever.
This list is sooooo different coming from a casual player so it’s fun to see your opinion on it (also that edit at 13:45 is so funny to me for some reason).
In a hypothetical Smash 6, I'd really appreciate if you could toggle hazards on a per-stage basis, or even turn specific hazards on each stage on or off. I want to be able to play on Wily's Castle with the extra moving platforms but without the Yellow Devil.
My personal favourite stage hazard is the shy guys in mario circuit stage, because you can see them on the map in the background so you know when there coming, however you can knock the enemies into the shy guys to do a lot damage. That’s why there my favourite stage hazard
The Mementos stage hazard is great. I once had a CPU bounce straight down, get sent up by a train, and the get KO'd to a Nikita Missile that was flying on straight line (sent from the ledge). It really felt great.
Fun fact: Super Happy Tree (Or Yoshi's Island 64) had a version of the stage without the clouds but it was only in Smash 64 and it could only be used during the Yoshi team battle in 1P mode (Or Classic Mode). Though in Smash Remix (A mod of 64) you can play on it during a VS match. I know this doesn't really matter but I thought it was cool to point out. I also have the brain of a 3 year old so, you aren't the only one
Technically Hollow Bastion becomes ever so slightly skinnier with the transformation, by just a few pixels at each end. But this is not enough to create any issues. The only potential issue I can think of is that the bright white that the stage becomes in the transformation could cause eye-strain for some people. But none of this impacts my decision to agree that Hollow Bastion is 100% better with hazards.
Certain stages do have a slight impact when items are on (Mushroomy Kingdom, Dracula’s Castle, ect). But I could imagine that the items wouldn’t effect the rankings regardless. Also seeing Hanenbow high on any list somehow satisfies my sadistic brain. I prefer it to be hazardless myself thoug- 22:43 NEVERMIND, THIS WEIRDLY SATISFIES THAT MINDSET MORE.
To me, the random nature of the game and it's unprecedented level of variety is what keeps me playing all these years later... playing without items or hazards kind of loses the crazy fun that can occur out of randomness. I've never felt that smash was meant to be taken seriously in a competitive way.
Yep I would say that hazards and items off just make the game boring to play as the people who are "the best" at the game always win When I feel to truly be good at smash you have to be able to adapt, kinda like Mario Kart, where I don't see people banning items, because disabling them would be boring
100% If you don't play with items and hazards then you can't say you're good at Smash. You're good at generic fighting games. Someone truly good at the game can win using all the nonsense it gives you. THAT'S Smash Bros.
That's my style, smash is also party game at it's core, and a party game needs bullshit, needs stuff like getting one hit KO'd, assist trophies and my favorite addition also called stage morph
With hollow bastion, I honestly think the transformed stage is LESS distracting, if anything. There's so much less movement in the background and it's generally a much visually clearer stage overall. Makes me wish we could pick that version of the stage as the default honestly
That's not true. The stage never changes biomes during the battle, you have to select them manually from the stage select screen. The platforms don't move, either.
Very surprised you didn’t mention KOF stadium. It fixes the cheese associated with the walk-off stages by making the blast zones invisible walls until someone collides and gets slammed into them hard enough. It’s fun as hell, disincentives camping, and force’s interactivity. Definitely my pick for the best casual stage in the game. Also on the subject of xenoblade 3’s release date, we just can’t stop winning sorry I don’t make the rules. Don’t blame me blame Monolith soft for being absolutely cracked. XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 3 HYPE!
He mentions it in the quick list starting at 1:20. The stage does not change when hazards are turned off; therefore, for the purposes of this video, it has no hazard to rank. I agree with you that it fixes the walk-off problem quite well, though.
Fun fact: Prior to version 13.0.0, the Shy Guys in Yoshi's Story would always carry food even if items were turned off. This irritated people to no end, because it would've been absolutely PERFECT in hazards on tournaments otherwise (which, imo, has a MUCH better and more interesting legal stage list than hazards off tournaments, since all the legal stages are not only still competively viable, but also more fun). Luckily this was fixed, and now it's absolutely PERFECT.
I forget if I commented this on an earlier video, but in case I didn't: One topic that I think would make for an interesting video would be "Where would all the DLC characters be located on the World of Light Map?" (example: I believe that Sephiroth and Pyra/Mythra would be on the Final Battle map - Sephirot on the Dark Side, Pythra on the Light Side) I haven't seen any videos on this topic, and I think you would do a good job covering it.
5:12 why with a grain of salt? Accessibility is important, and my mother suffers from enough motion sickness she can’t even watch me play Smash. I wish there was a setting to turn on fixed camera mode in regular Smash battles, as it’s only accessible in Special Smash and Training Mode.
7:19 “Maybe it’s just my Mario bias…” *Looks at channel name* *Looks at Uploaded Videos Tab* *Looks at channel profile picture* Nope. No Mario bias that I can see.
you're ranking the hazards with a competetive mindset instead of how they were meant to be viewed, as a fun gimmick to set the stages apart and provide more entertainment for a group of people
@@D_YellowMadnesswell his opinions are that he doesn’t like stage hazards that do to much. that’s the point though, they’re meant to shake the game up.
What a good video! I actually agree with most of them, the only change I would make is by putting super Mario 3D land at the highest, but overall good video!
22:22 Funnily enough this isn’t actually a guaranteed kill. I say this because I’ve been hit by it before and lived (well lived until getting killed by the water pushing me offstage.)
From an even more strictly competitive standpoint, the best hazards-on elements that improve the competitive stage list would have to be 4. Dreamland's Wind 3. Yoshi's Story Cloud 2. Fountain of Dream's moving platforms 1. Smashville's moving platform I wanted a round top 5 but even with just those changes the stages look a lot better. Plus Small Battlefield over Pokemon Stadium 2 means sets will actually get to end on time.
Prediction for #1: Hallow Bastion or Yoshi Story because they fixed the hazardless version of it. Edit: I was right about Hallow Bastion. Yoshi story got 4th so I had a good prediction
I loved Wrecking Crew with Hazards on, because if you get caught under one of the barrels as it falls on you, you’ll be trapped in it. Kid me thought that was the funniest thing ever.
If in a Smash Bros tournament a main Sora gets to the finals, I really hope Hollow Bastion with hazards gets to be the final stage. Specially against Cloud or Sephiroth.
Ok he definitely made this list without items on. A lot of stage hazards rely on having items on. The mimics on Yggdrasils alter, the duck on duck hunt dropping items, Tomodachi life blocking what items you can see. There’s just so many things that only exist with items on.
@@Odyssey_Central yeah the ducks don’t really do much. It’s the mimics on Yggdrasils alter that are really dangerous though. They’re basically an instant KO if you don’t avoid them.
I wish the hazardless versions where more competitive friendly deleting stuff like ceilings, camping areas and even adjusting blast zones, most of the time they delete the fun part of most stages to left either a boring battlefield, final destination or bridge of eldin clone or not being legal at all. i'm honestly more of a Hazards fan, I evade every arena with Omega/battlefield rules. But I can get why people preffers the Hazardless A.K.A . The uncool verions
Watching this on my tv but want to comment that I am happy that you use the characters that go with the stages on the stages because some I didnt know lol
I think the ONLY reason the Hallowed Bastion stage doesn't change with stage hazards off is because of the different sections having very tiny differences between how the underneath is, changing how some recovers may be underneath it. It’s a very dumb reason but it's Nintendo we're talking about so who knows, that may be their logic with this
Some people may have already said this, but Fountain of Dreams' lag issue was actually fixed in a patch, and I've even heard some players seriously consider making this stage legal now.
Oh that's such a unique ranking idea! I love this ranking 100 percent one of my favorite videos so far from you! But none will beat the best video removing cheese from Mario maker 2 levels ;))
The Kalos Elite 4 stage is really fun, but it can be annoying like the other pokemon stages and have effects change with the different pokemon that show up. At least with Spear Pillar and the BW stge the other pokemon don't add effect but this with the fire type stage its either "regular stage" or "extreme fire" and I can see how it can make things more challenging
Warioware is absurdly underrated. Hazards take that a super boring stage and transform it into a genuinely entertaining match. power ups you get can be a bit busted but IMO that adds some fun variety.
Eh, I disagree that stage hazards should be penalized for interfering with fights. If anything, hazards that serve little purpose should be ranked way lower, even if by that definition of interferring with fights such hazards would get points. Rationale: If you didn't want interference at all, there's the option of just turning them off.
I'm still really annoyed the hazards toggle was never just added to the stage select screen. It always really annoyed me how I needed to switch rules just to do that.
29:39 Personally I dont really like this stage, but with hazards on it gets worse because those platforms that move let you rack up like 100 damage if you catch your opponent on them with an infinite jab
As someone who finds competitive play in smash really boring I Disagree with alot of the top and bottom of the list Since especially in the top pics the changes were very mundane and don't even have a reason to be classed as a hazard If it was me ranking them personally I would base it on if the hazard wasn't too intrusive but made the game more exciting to play Although I'm glad to see Norfair high on the list
Hazard sets you can toggle would be a cool addition to a smash(or smash-like) game, hell even a stage scene selection would be cool if you wanted to play on a specific version even if it's only one that would turn up mid hazard, etc. edit: and yes that does include Wily's Castle but Yellow Devil is now invincible if you really wanted to be that masochistic :b
I thought Mementos wasn't tournament legal because it has an opposite problem to WarioWare Inc., in that it's too big/the blastzones are too far out Minecraft World has a similar problem, alongside _allegedly_ giving Steve an inherent advantage, which I have just never understood Yes, the stage has all 4 material types Steve can mine, but they also each have their own separate counter from reaching Diamond, and the most ideal ones for Steve to mine are dirt and iron, the former because the shovel isn't used for any attacks, so there's no need to worry about preserving durability for combos and the like, and the latter because [oddly enough] it's the fastest material to reach Diamond with, and is just generally important in Steve's kit due to the minecart and the anvil-based moves needing it
You kinda dropped that Snake's Codecs are still present on shadow moses, but they suffer from being direct transfers from Brawl as Cambell's JP VA passed away and they didn't want to re-record lines involving a new VA for Cambell, but this means it suffers in all other languages. This is why Pit gains Palutena's guidance as a sort of replacement, but it lacks the punch that the codecs had.
Man I’d love to see that. Smash was Nintendo’s way of doing a fighting game, it’s always been incredibly lame to me that tournaments try and squash out almost everything that makes Smash what it is. Have some wild game modes once in a while, the bullshit is fun to watch
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Hope you all enjoy this video! This one took a ton of time but I'll try to make sure the wait between this and the next upload isn't too long
It's fine, you upload at a high quality so I don't care if your videos have MONTH long gaps just focus on making your videos the best they can be!
Your editing is god tier. I can see u no de weh
Bup
Dude I don’t mind, I mean what am I gonna be upset about, a mediocre youtuber not uploading? This is a joke
There is a troll on hero’s stage. There is a treasure chest but it will either bite you or contain a bomb!!!!!!
Personally, I feel like stage hazards get better when there's more players, since instead of forcing you to work around them to fight your one, singular opponent, the hazards just facilitate you not targeting any one person
Or using them as a distraction to catch some of them by surprise.
I get what you're saying and I totally agree with you 💯
I wish the stage hazard toggle was more customizable, like in magic ant all the stage hazzards are cool and unique, but flying man ruins it for me!
Yeah I’d LOVE to have it let you choose specific hazards to place onto a stage. I’m sure it’d be hard to implement but I think it’d definitely be worth it!
M A G I C A N T
Yeah and yoshi's story and smashville would be so much better
@@Odyssey_Central hey odyssey, how hard do you think it will would be to choose the worst and best moons in odyssey?
Certified auto correct moment
If anyone is wondering, the toggle on Pac-Land turns off:
Hydrant water
The bonuses that are caused by moving stumps/hydrants
The ship and water spouts on the bridge
The Wing Shoes
The Super Pac item
The collapsing and spinning bridges
The springboard
And the moving cloud platforms
There’s also the healing balloons towards the end of each trip
Tysm, I'm pretty sure the only reason I've played on Pac-Land is for spirit battles and I had no idea 😭
Odyssey: "Now I'm not gonna rank each and every hazard individually as that would be a bit absurd" (0:25)
Also odyssey: "at 100k I will rank every moon in Mario odyssey"
(1:42)
Good luck doing 880 moons one by one
All moons from toadette will be tied for last
@@Swagpion yup
@@Swagpion You were wrong
@@racoonwhocannotbekilled9999 it was a good guess. In fact the only reason some were better was because of the counter, not even the moon itself.
I just want the ability to toggle stage hazards for specific stages, so if I pick random for stages, I can always get the better version.
Should be a feature in the next game.
@@GoldenDryBonesandStu Should be a feature in this bloody game, but after tonnes of patches they still neglected it.
@@k-leb4671 i was thinking of something for u.s like cereal box characters or kool-aid man
I was so mad when I first found out that Dr. Wily's castle with hazards off didn't just make the yellow devil disappear, but the platforms too.
We could have had a unique, likely tournament legal stage, but instead we got Final Destination with walls.
10000 years of human evolution have led to the sentence "the yellow devil is illegal"
Pjiggles
"it also has these moving platforms, but who cares..."
I do. Those platforms on Wily Castle are neat references to various Mega Man games, have unique functions compared to other platforms in the Smash, and would make the stage actually interesting and not just a flat stage. The problem is that you barely get to see them even with hazards on because they don't spawn when the Yellow Devil does. A version of the stage with platforms but without the devil would be awesome. You'd get a more interesting stage and actually get to see the platforms to their fullest.
The Yellow Devil ruins everything.
The reason why the dive into the heart part of Hollow Bastion is a hazard is because Steve goes from mining stone to mining iron in it, so it does affect gameplay.
Edit: guys please stop, I know now this is not true.
Not in any effective way.
They could have kept the visual aspect of the transition, and just make Steve's resources not change.
Just turn them off when Steve's being played then? Removing something that's super hype and visually beautiful just because of one character is the lamest shit ever.
@@Miriam_J_ So turn them off during every game, then? Steve seems to be everywhere…
thats just not true, its been proven but lets pretend there is a difference aka this so we don't rage at the smash team
Extremely unique ranking! This game has been ranked on everything to DEATH, but this is very good and unique!
When’s the advanced rule ranking
This list is sooooo different coming from a casual player so it’s fun to see your opinion on it (also that edit at 13:45 is so funny to me for some reason).
The bricks can now be broken.
*YIPEE-*
@@CoraCreates This technically makes the stage better
@@lailoutherand yep.
I think a ranking video on the quotes in the punch out stage would be neat. No sweat though.
In a hypothetical Smash 6, I'd really appreciate if you could toggle hazards on a per-stage basis, or even turn specific hazards on each stage on or off.
I want to be able to play on Wily's Castle with the extra moving platforms but without the Yellow Devil.
I just want to say, bowser getting killed in time with the music at 17:36 is SO GOOD
My personal favourite stage hazard is the shy guys in mario circuit stage, because you can see them on the map in the background so you know when there coming, however you can knock the enemies into the shy guys to do a lot damage. That’s why there my favourite stage hazard
Ah yes, "either tech or get run over"
The Mementos stage hazard is great.
I once had a CPU bounce straight down, get sent up by a train, and the get KO'd to a Nikita Missile that was flying on straight line (sent from the ledge).
It really felt great.
3:44 I love the detail when the flying man gets KOed, a gravestone shows up near the place he spawns
Fun fact: Super Happy Tree (Or Yoshi's Island 64) had a version of the stage without the clouds but it was only in Smash 64 and it could only be used during the Yoshi team battle in 1P mode (Or Classic Mode). Though in Smash Remix (A mod of 64) you can play on it during a VS match. I know this doesn't really matter but I thought it was cool to point out.
I also have the brain of a 3 year old so, you aren't the only one
It was originally named Yoshi's Island (with 64 added in Melee) as well
Technically Hollow Bastion becomes ever so slightly skinnier with the transformation, by just a few pixels at each end. But this is not enough to create any issues. The only potential issue I can think of is that the bright white that the stage becomes in the transformation could cause eye-strain for some people. But none of this impacts my decision to agree that Hollow Bastion is 100% better with hazards.
Certain stages do have a slight impact when items are on (Mushroomy Kingdom, Dracula’s Castle, ect). But I could imagine that the items wouldn’t effect the rankings regardless.
Also seeing Hanenbow high on any list somehow satisfies my sadistic brain. I prefer it to be hazardless myself thoug-
22:43 NEVERMIND, THIS WEIRDLY SATISFIES THAT MINDSET MORE.
Draculas Castle has the candles from the games I believe with Hasards on to get items
If unchained chomp was in any of the stages it would be #1 for sure.
24:22 is probably the sickest gunner clip I'll ever see.
When the computer hit that on me I said the exact same thing LMAO
@@Odyssey_Central Odyssey Central, I hate you because, you are so rude. If you scare us again, I will simply delete your channel.
To me, the random nature of the game and it's unprecedented level of variety is what keeps me playing all these years later... playing without items or hazards kind of loses the crazy fun that can occur out of randomness. I've never felt that smash was meant to be taken seriously in a competitive way.
Completely agree
Yep
I would say that hazards and items off just make the game boring to play as the people who are "the best" at the game always win
When I feel to truly be good at smash you have to be able to adapt, kinda like Mario Kart, where I don't see people banning items, because disabling them would be boring
@@Iris_Astraea Smash is still fun without items. Mario Kart without items is like the shallowest racer ever.
100% If you don't play with items and hazards then you can't say you're good at Smash. You're good at generic fighting games. Someone truly good at the game can win using all the nonsense it gives you. THAT'S Smash Bros.
That's my style, smash is also party game at it's core, and a party game needs bullshit, needs stuff like getting one hit KO'd, assist trophies and my favorite addition also called stage morph
10:59, that’s how we roll
30:54 Actually, there is a reason why hazards are off… the Fly Guys… they bring in food, and even if items are off, they still come to bring in food…
I know
@@TheShasityn I know you know
Nope, they fixed that oversight in the last update.
@@32xios69 Thank god
With hollow bastion, I honestly think the transformed stage is LESS distracting, if anything. There's so much less movement in the background and it's generally a much visually clearer stage overall. Makes me wish we could pick that version of the stage as the default honestly
With hazards on in Minecraft world, the biomes will change, and the platforms will move, but only sometimes, and it’s pretty unnoticeable.
That's not true. The stage never changes biomes during the battle, you have to select them manually from the stage select screen. The platforms don't move, either.
Although I’m also pretty competitive, I find the transforming stages to be much better. They’re definitely better than Brinstar IMO
I’d put them in beneficial hazards
Very surprised you didn’t mention KOF stadium. It fixes the cheese associated with the walk-off stages by making the blast zones invisible walls until someone collides and gets slammed into them hard enough. It’s fun as hell, disincentives camping, and force’s interactivity. Definitely my pick for the best casual stage in the game.
Also on the subject of xenoblade 3’s release date, we just can’t stop winning sorry I don’t make the rules. Don’t blame me blame Monolith soft for being absolutely cracked. XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 3 HYPE!
He mentions it in the quick list starting at 1:20. The stage does not change when hazards are turned off; therefore, for the purposes of this video, it has no hazard to rank. I agree with you that it fixes the walk-off problem quite well, though.
@@didiercollardI missed that. Thanks!
Fun fact: Prior to version 13.0.0, the Shy Guys in Yoshi's Story would always carry food even if items were turned off. This irritated people to no end, because it would've been absolutely PERFECT in hazards on tournaments otherwise (which, imo, has a MUCH better and more interesting legal stage list than hazards off tournaments, since all the legal stages are not only still competively viable, but also more fun). Luckily this was fixed, and now it's absolutely PERFECT.
Tbh my fav stage is memento with hazards cuz if you get the slanted roof with the train you can look ppl with a freaking train which is great
I forget if I commented this on an earlier video, but in case I didn't: One topic that I think would make for an interesting video would be "Where would all the DLC characters be located on the World of Light Map?" (example: I believe that Sephiroth and Pyra/Mythra would be on the Final Battle map - Sephirot on the Dark Side, Pythra on the Light Side)
I haven't seen any videos on this topic, and I think you would do a good job covering it.
Great video. Hoping to see a stage ranking video at some point.
Also I totally agree with #1. What about diving into the heart of various Kingdom Hearts characters is so hazardous?
17:37 you literally brought incineroar to Windy Hill but didn't put them in the big the cat's skin
He's probably supposed to represent zavok
@@sumbuddy7309 incineroar literally has a Sonic based skin
I was waiting for Norfair the whole video. Glad to see that you also have good taste.
Gamer is also great.
5:12 why with a grain of salt? Accessibility is important, and my mother suffers from enough motion sickness she can’t even watch me play Smash. I wish there was a setting to turn on fixed camera mode in regular Smash battles, as it’s only accessible in Special Smash and Training Mode.
7:19 “Maybe it’s just my Mario bias…”
*Looks at channel name*
*Looks at Uploaded Videos Tab*
*Looks at channel profile picture*
Nope. No Mario bias that I can see.
The team knew that Rainbow Ride and the Yellow Devil were not fun so they adapted it faithfully to Smash
XD
you're ranking the hazards with a competetive mindset instead of how they were meant to be viewed, as a fun gimmick to set the stages apart and provide more entertainment for a group of people
That's because the video is about his opinions. You want him to rank them based on someone else's opinions? Yours?
@@D_YellowMadnesswell his opinions are that he doesn’t like stage hazards that do to much. that’s the point though, they’re meant to shake the game up.
I love how a channel named “Odyssey Central” makes these Smash Bros. Ultimate videos.
What a good video! I actually agree with most of them, the only change I would make is by putting super Mario 3D land at the highest, but overall good video!
Really good video!!! I really agree with all of these I think, really fun topic to talk about and really well conveyed!
22:22 Funnily enough this isn’t actually a guaranteed kill. I say this because I’ve been hit by it before and lived (well lived until getting killed by the water pushing me offstage.)
Can you rank all final smashes next
6:57 had me laughing wayy to hard for my own good
From an even more strictly competitive standpoint, the best hazards-on elements that improve the competitive stage list would have to be
4. Dreamland's Wind
3. Yoshi's Story Cloud
2. Fountain of Dream's moving platforms
1. Smashville's moving platform
I wanted a round top 5 but even with just those changes the stages look a lot better. Plus Small Battlefield over Pokemon Stadium 2 means sets will actually get to end on time.
Can't wait for you to hit 100k!
Me too
I find the great cave offensive really fun to play on
You just have to throw your opponent in the lava and kill them at 100%
I don’t think you need to be a genius to know last place was Yellow Devil
Something else about GCO, if you have items on as well as hazards chests will appear that when hit can give a random item from one of your selection
On the pirate ship stage you forgot the section when a tornado appears and makes the ship fly up to the sky and crash back down
Also the ship landing on a rock
Prediction for #1: Hallow Bastion or Yoshi Story because they fixed the hazardless version of it.
Edit: I was right about Hallow Bastion. Yoshi story got 4th so I had a good prediction
I loved Wrecking Crew with Hazards on, because if you get caught under one of the barrels as it falls on you, you’ll be trapped in it. Kid me thought that was the funniest thing ever.
If in a Smash Bros tournament a main Sora gets to the finals, I really hope Hollow Bastion with hazards gets to be the final stage. Specially against Cloud or Sephiroth.
Hollow Bastion is also the only stage that is different with hazards off in its Omega and Battlefield forms
I leave my tablet for 18 seconds, then four videos come out
Ok he definitely made this list without items on. A lot of stage hazards rely on having items on. The mimics on Yggdrasils alter, the duck on duck hunt dropping items, Tomodachi life blocking what items you can see. There’s just so many things that only exist with items on.
Huh, didn’t know about the ducks dropping items. My opinions wouldn’t have changed regardless though
@@Odyssey_Central yeah the ducks don’t really do much. It’s the mimics on Yggdrasils alter that are really dangerous though. They’re basically an instant KO if you don’t avoid them.
I wish the hazardless versions where more competitive friendly deleting stuff like ceilings, camping areas and even adjusting blast zones, most of the time they delete the fun part of most stages to left either a boring battlefield, final destination or bridge of eldin clone or not being legal at all. i'm honestly more of a Hazards fan, I evade every arena with Omega/battlefield rules. But I can get why people preffers the Hazardless A.K.A . The uncool verions
Bro I didn't know how much I wanted this until now. What a legend you are.
10:21 Parrying the shield breaker. You mad lad.
Odyssey Central: *shows sans and ness in the same stage*
Me: wat?
I love that the first thing the community did when they saw that cloud on yoshis island was name it Randal
Watching this on my tv but want to comment that I am happy that you use the characters that go with the stages on the stages because some I didnt know lol
I think the ONLY reason the Hallowed Bastion stage doesn't change with stage hazards off is because of the different sections having very tiny differences between how the underneath is, changing how some recovers may be underneath it. It’s a very dumb reason but it's Nintendo we're talking about so who knows, that may be their logic with this
I think Odyssey Central likes destroying bridges.
I just noticed that odyssey kept using the appropriate character for each stage, that's super cool
Some people may have already said this, but Fountain of Dreams' lag issue was actually fixed in a patch, and I've even heard some players seriously consider making this stage legal now.
I played on it recently and experienced a lag spike tho. Do not remember what character I was playing
@@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx I just looked at the Smash Wiki. Apparently, it wasn't completely fixed, as Wario can still cause it. Maybe it was him.
@@FidGame450 yeah I do play as Wario From time to Time
Oh that's such a unique ranking idea! I love this ranking 100 percent one of my favorite videos so far from you! But none will beat the best video removing cheese from Mario maker 2 levels ;))
Can’t wait for the 100k sub special
The Kalos Elite 4 stage is really fun, but it can be annoying like the other pokemon stages and have effects change with the different pokemon that show up. At least with Spear Pillar and the BW stge the other pokemon don't add effect but this with the fire type stage its either "regular stage" or "extreme fire" and I can see how it can make things more challenging
I like what they were doing with the Yellow Devil where you and your opponent partner up for a while
Warioware is absurdly underrated. Hazards take that a super boring stage and transform it into a genuinely entertaining match. power ups you get can be a bit busted but IMO that adds some fun variety.
#34 is great, until it flips you over a bottomless pit that you have little chance of escaping from
Eh, I disagree that stage hazards should be penalized for interfering with fights. If anything, hazards that serve little purpose should be ranked way lower, even if by that definition of interferring with fights such hazards would get points.
Rationale: If you didn't want interference at all, there's the option of just turning them off.
It’s a good time when odyssey uploads
I like the touch of the sans mii gunner on the earthbound stage lol
As far as i remember in the 3DS version of smash 4 the turning golden (or atleast from coins) you get super armor
12:46
That's the stage that jumpscared the hell outta me every time the drawing goes black🤣
When the vending machine doesn't accept your money 25:16
11:33 that cpu is like "come back i wanna fight :("
Something about Dracula's Castle, but if items are set to appear, then a few candles can appear in the foreground, and you can break them for an item
8:04 competitive be like: because there is a slight change elevation, IT CAN’T BE FAIR.
Pit and snake stage character interactions are so cool
I despise Xenoblade 2, but the Switch isn't exactly lacking in Mario titles, while XC only had two games.
_but that's two more games than F Zero_
The Peckish Aristocrab can spike, huh… now this is a good discovery
Smash Fans: Melee is the best entry
Also Melee: 12:35
I'm still really annoyed the hazards toggle was never just added to the stage select screen. It always really annoyed me how I needed to switch rules just to do that.
29:39 Personally I dont really like this stage, but with hazards on it gets worse because those platforms that move let you rack up like 100 damage if you catch your opponent on them with an infinite jab
As someone who finds competitive play in smash really boring
I Disagree with alot of the top and bottom of the list
Since especially in the top pics the changes were very mundane and don't even have a reason to be classed as a hazard
If it was me ranking them personally I would base it on if the hazard wasn't too intrusive but made the game more exciting to play
Although I'm glad to see Norfair high on the list
The sans is ness joke on some of the earthbound stages mad me laugh SO hard 😂
(19:50) Probably the one time you can have fun causing property damage.
The tornadoes are not easy to avoid, I had multiple situations where one spawned on top of me as the fight started
I watched it like I said I would. Love your content.
15:28 when recovering as ness I once moved a leaf with up b, making it just high enough to stop me from recovering. Hazards are less fun.
Well you played as Ness so you were asking for it.
Hazard sets you can toggle would be a cool addition to a smash(or smash-like) game, hell even a stage scene selection would be cool if you wanted to play on a specific version even if it's only one that would turn up mid hazard, etc.
edit: and yes that does include Wily's Castle but Yellow Devil is now invincible if you really wanted to be that masochistic :b
I thought Mementos wasn't tournament legal because it has an opposite problem to WarioWare Inc., in that it's too big/the blastzones are too far out
Minecraft World has a similar problem, alongside _allegedly_ giving Steve an inherent advantage, which I have just never understood
Yes, the stage has all 4 material types Steve can mine, but they also each have their own separate counter from reaching Diamond, and the most ideal ones for Steve to mine are dirt and iron, the former because the shovel isn't used for any attacks, so there's no need to worry about preserving durability for combos and the like, and the latter because [oddly enough] it's the fastest material to reach Diamond with, and is just generally important in Steve's kit due to the minecart and the anvil-based moves needing it
You got to love that on most of the stages, he uses the characters form from that game
I don't know why, but I love the "YIPPEE!" effect.
You kinda dropped that Snake's Codecs are still present on shadow moses, but they suffer from being direct transfers from Brawl as Cambell's JP VA passed away and they didn't want to re-record lines involving a new VA for Cambell, but this means it suffers in all other languages. This is why Pit gains Palutena's guidance as a sort of replacement, but it lacks the punch that the codecs had.
imagine if there is a hazard tournament
5 stocks, hazards on, maybe some items
Man I’d love to see that. Smash was Nintendo’s way of doing a fighting game, it’s always been incredibly lame to me that tournaments try and squash out almost everything that makes Smash what it is. Have some wild game modes once in a while, the bullshit is fun to watch