Although that is a great method for threaded stuff that is no longer under tension (e.g. broken studs or bolts,) grubscrews are usually too tight for that to work. I like to drill small first to avoid work hardening while using the larger drill next.
Just discovered your channel and I get a real sense of satisfaction watching those stubborn screws in your videos come out! I dread broken fasteners and its always a challenge to remove them without causing other damage. I'm usually so happy to remove a broken screw, I sometimes save it as a trophy! Thank you for sharing some very useful and time saving tips!
Multiple great tips here! I've always been in a horrible mood whenever I had to drill out something and my tool experience is lacking 😂 The cutting paste is great to know about (I didn't know that existed) and then the tip w/ the diamond file is genius. Great way to finish the job at hand without having to buy a new bit. Going slow and being patient is important too... which can be difficult. Having a fastener get stripped or break off sucks bigtime.
Thanks, Brian. Yeah, jobs like this will put most people in a bad mood and make them swear considerably. Taking your time is definitely key! Thanks for the comment 👍
Whenever i encountered such sturbon screws id weld a rod on top of them n try to rotate. It works every time though it takes time! Nice to see an easier n faster way of doing it
Yeah, the glass washing machines were the worst. Everything was stainless steel, you often had to lie down on your front and reach in. The environment was hot, humid and noisy, plus you had to wear helmet/hard hat, safety glasses (which often steamed up) and hearing protection! The job was a nightmare! Thanks for the comment 👍
I get most of these grub screws out the two easy ways. I use a Dremel small diameter cutting wheel to cut the top of the grub screw into a slot and then use a small flat head screw driver to unscrew the grub screw. You can also use a reverse drill bit (not a screw extractor).
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If I'm replacing the bearing, I'll just use a thin slitting disc in an angle grinder. One cut parallel to the shaft, one cut perpendicular to the shaft and prise off the section of the bearing collar with the grub screw in it.
Can be worth giving the grub screw a good bash with a hammer and punch, though with fan blades on kit I work on I usually heat them up with the oxy fuel torch as not much room for anything else!
A world record - the most times someone has said “grub screw / grub screws” in a 12 min 58 sec period. 42 times! (It’s actually 37 but I’m feeling mischievous)
I have to drill out a roll pin, super hardened it in the garage door roller mechanism.I have been at it for a few hours no progress I may have even hardened it. Any help would be welcome Many thanks. Love your shows. Keep up the hard work.
It depends on the machine. Earlier in the video, I said that I have never had to drill out a grub screw on a taper lock bush, that is because they are normally made from cast steel, so if you hit them hard enough using a hammer they will break. Stainless steel bearings and shafts are much different, the helical gears not only use grub screws, but they also use key ways and key steel to hold them in position. This causes problems, as a new shaft would have to be machined on a milling machine to get the key ways in the correct position. Whilst a bearing might cost £5 - £20 a new shaft would cost hundreds of pounds and cannot be bought off the shelf. Normally when you perform maintenance on a machine, they need it back in production in less than 8 hours, unless it’s during a shutdown, which is normally 2 weeks. I guess it depends on what spare shafts you have available. At the last place I worked, they kept trying to reduce spare parts and questioned every purchase. For example, some machines had nip rollers, which applied masking to the sheets of acrylic. The nip rollers needed changing every few months (I believe it was £5000 for a pair of nip rollers to be recovered). You needed 8 needle bearings for the nip rollers (stock number 10598), but the purchasing department might have only ordered 6 due to costs. (reading this back- it looks like war and peace LOL), I hope it makes sense!
I bought it direct from the manufacturers - www.richontools.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_38&products_id=463 If you use the contact link on their website, they will give you a price including shipping. I paid via paypal 👍
When its the driil bit that makes the difference not the drill.... and of course the guy holding it.... only place I got these is for securing gears to electric motor shafts on my old Radio controlled cars.... :) we used to thread lock em....and a little heat with a miny blowtorch used to help release em other than that it is easier to cut the gear off...... Quality vid Chez as always.. :) N x
Long story, but basically, I used to subcontract as a maintenance engineer. I worked for the firm previously for 20 years as an employee, then subcontracted to them when needed as a maintenance engineer for another ten years. They had a “voluntary” lateral flow test, which was to be at 09:30 on a Monday morning for the engineers (remember the plant runs 24/7, 7 days per week). I wasn’t letting someone, who was not medically trained shove anything up my nose or in my mouth, so because it was “voluntary”, I declined the test. I was then told that I could not use the canteens on site, but was not offered an alternative place to have my breaks (this resulted in one of the other engineers having his break at his bench, in the workshop). This was the straw that broke the camels back, so I got a bin bag and emptied my locker at one site, I then drove home and text the site engineer, along the lines of “I’ve had enough of this Bullshit- I’ll be calling in the next few days to empty my other lockers (at the other plant). I then went in, emptied my lockers and sold my tools to one of the apprentices (Josh- he’s been in a couple of videos). Since then, several other engineers have left the place 👍
If you ever need to fix or restore threads on those grub screws (or larger screws) maybe our tool can help? Let me know if you are interested to try it out!
Someone else said that, but their comment disappeared (not sure if they deleted it) 😂 I’m not sure if you need your eyes testing, or if I have led a sheltered life 😂 😂 😂 😂
I had to drill out grub screws like this several times over the years, it is always fun!
I hope everyone has a great Sunday 👍
That's a Milwaukee drill. Only the best.
It may be easier using a left handed drill bit so that the set screw might come out at some point while you drill it out.
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Although that is a great method for threaded stuff that is no longer under tension (e.g. broken studs or bolts,) grubscrews are usually too tight for that to work. I like to drill small first to avoid work hardening while using the larger drill next.
Just discovered your channel and I get a real sense of satisfaction watching those stubborn screws in your videos come out! I dread broken fasteners and its always a challenge to remove them without causing other damage. I'm usually so happy to remove a broken screw, I sometimes save it as a trophy! Thank you for sharing some very useful and time saving tips!
Thanks Tony 👍
Also try using a torx bit. Hammer it in so it will make it's own slots.
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I'm from Detroit Michigan and we call them set screws. Great video as usual.
Thanks 👍
Multiple great tips here! I've always been in a horrible mood whenever I had to drill out something and my tool experience is lacking 😂 The cutting paste is great to know about (I didn't know that existed) and then the tip w/ the diamond file is genius. Great way to finish the job at hand without having to buy a new bit. Going slow and being patient is important too... which can be difficult. Having a fastener get stripped or break off sucks bigtime.
Thanks, Brian.
Yeah, jobs like this will put most people in a bad mood and make them swear considerably. Taking your time is definitely key!
Thanks for the comment 👍
Whenever i encountered such sturbon screws id weld a rod on top of them n try to rotate.
It works every time though it takes time!
Nice to see an easier n faster way of doing it
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Drilling metal is always a fun time! I can't imagine what you'd do in some of those machines where there is no space at all
Yeah, the glass washing machines were the worst. Everything was stainless steel, you often had to lie down on your front and reach in. The environment was hot, humid and noisy, plus you had to wear helmet/hard hat, safety glasses (which often steamed up) and hearing protection! The job was a nightmare!
Thanks for the comment 👍
@@ultimatehandyman that could be a fun different kind of video - showing (or recreating) the worst possible real life examples of jobs 😂
I thought everyone talked in backwards language down in Australia. I guess you learn something new everyday. Thanks mate. yad'G!
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I get most of these grub screws out the two easy ways. I use a Dremel small diameter cutting wheel to cut the top of the grub screw into a slot and then use a small flat head screw driver to unscrew the grub screw. You can also use a reverse drill bit (not a screw extractor).
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@@ultimatehandyman - Cheers from Dallas, Texas. Thank you very much for your hard work on your channel. I have followed you for a long time. Keep up the good work.
I like the trick with the diamond file ! Nice work
Yeah, that diamond coated file is superb!
Thanks for the comment
Welcome back! I have missed watching your videos on a Sunday. Hope is all well with you. Steve.
Thanks Steve 👍
In the US they are "set screws"...great content
Thanks 👍
KNOWLEDGEABLE Ultimate Handyman
Sharing what you know with us amazing
From start to finish loved it, take care and have a great day👌👍 God bless you
Ultimate Handyman
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Thanks Nick 👍
If I'm replacing the bearing, I'll just use a thin slitting disc in an angle grinder. One cut parallel to the shaft, one cut perpendicular to the shaft and prise off the section of the bearing collar with the grub screw in it.
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Can be worth giving the grub screw a good bash with a hammer and punch, though with fan blades on kit I work on I usually heat them up with the oxy fuel torch as not much room for anything else!
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Thanks for this guide!
You are welcome
Thanks for the comment 👍
A world record - the most times someone has said “grub screw / grub screws” in a 12 min 58 sec period. 42 times!
(It’s actually 37 but I’m feeling mischievous)
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I normally say "obviously" 42 times 😂
I have to drill out a roll pin, super hardened it in the garage door roller mechanism.I have been at it for a few hours no progress I may have even hardened it. Any help would be welcome Many thanks. Love your shows. Keep up the hard work.
They are difficult to drill, but a cobalt drill bit should do the trick. Keep it cool by using plenty of drilling/tapping fluid 👍
Hey! Welcome back!
Thanks 👍
Great video, thanks
Glad you liked it! 👍
Excellent. Thanks.
You are welcome
Thanks for the comment 👍
What about if you cannot get a drill in the correct position, do you strip down the machinery to gain access
It depends on the machine. Earlier in the video, I said that I have never had to drill out a grub screw on a taper lock bush, that is because they are normally made from cast steel, so if you hit them hard enough using a hammer they will break. Stainless steel bearings and shafts are much different, the helical gears not only use grub screws, but they also use key ways and key steel to hold them in position. This causes problems, as a new shaft would have to be machined on a milling machine to get the key ways in the correct position. Whilst a bearing might cost £5 - £20 a new shaft would cost hundreds of pounds and cannot be bought off the shelf. Normally when you perform maintenance on a machine, they need it back in production in less than 8 hours, unless it’s during a shutdown, which is normally 2 weeks. I guess it depends on what spare shafts you have available. At the last place I worked, they kept trying to reduce spare parts and questioned every purchase. For example, some machines had nip rollers, which applied masking to the sheets of acrylic. The nip rollers needed changing every few months (I believe it was £5000 for a pair of nip rollers to be recovered). You needed 8 needle bearings for the nip rollers (stock number 10598), but the purchasing department might have only ordered 6 due to costs. (reading this back- it looks like war and peace LOL), I hope it makes sense!
Hi chaz ...long time watcher of all yr vids ..learnt alot ..thank you ...
Do u have a link that diamond hand file...🤔🤸💪
I bought it direct from the manufacturers - www.richontools.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_38&products_id=463
If you use the contact link on their website, they will give you a price including shipping. I paid via paypal 👍
@@ultimatehandyman thanks Chaz. Stay safe
When its the driil bit that makes the difference not the drill.... and of course the guy holding it....
only place I got these is for securing gears to electric motor shafts on my old Radio controlled cars.... :)
we used to thread lock em....and a little heat with a miny blowtorch used to help release em
other than that it is easier to cut the gear off......
Quality vid Chez as always.. :)
N x
Thanks Neil 👍
Just thinking do pillar drills work in reverse?
Most domestic pillar drills only go in one direction, but we had a couple on site that could rotate in both directions 👍
"Where I used to work" c'mon man, spill the beans!
Long story, but basically, I used to subcontract as a maintenance engineer. I worked for the firm previously for 20 years as an employee, then subcontracted to them when needed as a maintenance engineer for another ten years. They had a “voluntary” lateral flow test, which was to be at 09:30 on a Monday morning for the engineers (remember the plant runs 24/7, 7 days per week). I wasn’t letting someone, who was not medically trained shove anything up my nose or in my mouth, so because it was “voluntary”, I declined the test. I was then told that I could not use the canteens on site, but was not offered an alternative place to have my breaks (this resulted in one of the other engineers having his break at his bench, in the workshop). This was the straw that broke the camels back, so I got a bin bag and emptied my locker at one site, I then drove home and text the site engineer, along the lines of “I’ve had enough of this Bullshit- I’ll be calling in the next few days to empty my other lockers (at the other plant). I then went in, emptied my lockers and sold my tools to one of the apprentices (Josh- he’s been in a couple of videos). Since then, several other engineers have left the place 👍
Grub=Set screw ✌🏻
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i've had good success using the oxy acetylene and whacking a torx drive socket into the head of the allen head and removing it that way,
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Aussies call them a grub screw but apparently the Americans call them a set screw
Thanks Doug 👍
Yep, we call them set screws or more recently we have started calling them call them hex screws.
Where have you been?
I've been busy doing allsorts! I've got a few hundred hours of video footage that needs editing into videos though, mainly on how to fit a kitchen 👍
Grub Screws 0 - Ultimate Handyman 1
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What is a grub screw?
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How.about on a aluminum cylinder head
If you ever need to fix or restore threads on those grub screws (or larger screws) maybe our tool can help? Let me know if you are interested to try it out!
Thanks, but these grub screws are 6mm, approximately 1/4 inch.
Just a little warning, the thumbnail for this video on the homepage looks like a screw stuck in a bumhole 😅 otherwise very useful video, thanks
Someone else said that, but their comment disappeared (not sure if they deleted it) 😂
I’m not sure if you need your eyes testing, or if I have led a sheltered life 😂 😂 😂 😂
🤣Great minds think alike🤣
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Yea...here downunder it's a grubb screw and I've burnt out so many drill bits I'm over it...😁😡😡😡
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🚐 Hardly any tools kept in this van overnight!… 😳
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BUY A MILL, A 4 POST LIFT, AND A TIRE MACHINE.
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Is that screw in an elephant’s ball-bag in the thumbnail? 🤔
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No, that is my black gloves 😂
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