Can you tell me what confessions, creeds, and cathecisms are present in the Bible? I saw Luther's Small Catechism, but are there others or do Lutherans primarily only care about this one in particular? I would appreciate your input.
@@ThePaulKMConfessional Lutherans hold to the Book of Concord which Luther’s small catechism is included in there. The Augsburg Confession and small catechism are probably the most succinct books in the book of Concord to understand Lutheran beliefs
I am a retired Lutheran pastor, not of the ELCA or Missouri Synod but from a smaller conservative and evangelical group of Lutherans. You did a great job on the review and presented it fairly while expressing your own studied personal views. A couple of things I will highlight that I think requires comment. First, one of the things I like about this study Bible (which I own) is the wealth of quotations from the church fathers on passages and sections of the Bible. I have not noticed any study Bible, except the Orthodox Study Bible, that gives us insight how the early church fathers viewed these passages, as they provide a supplementary commentary to the passages (although not on the same level as Scripture, it is helpful). I think it is a distinctive that could have been highlighted more. Second, one of the distinctives of Lutheran understanding of theology that is different than Calvinist, is the idea sometimes called "Single Predestination". This is where reason is subordinate to the Scripture. If those who are saved are elect, logically there should be the reverse that those who are lost are elect to damnation, but Luther did not teach this view of "Double Predestination", because it is not clear in the Bible that this is true. He submitted his understanding on this topic to the Word, not to reason. The passages on election are focused on those who are saved, not on those who are lost. Our understanding is that the Word as it is written and preached creates faith in the hearts of those who believe, and this word calls us to faith: "faith comes by hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ" (Rom. 10:17). Through this means "As many as were appointed to eternal life believed" (Acts 13:48). To the unbelieving world, all they hear is the Law, which condemns them. That is why it is necessary to have a proper distinction of Law and Gospel, both to show our sin and to show our Savior. I like your channel, and think you have done a good job in this review.
@@christophekeating21I'll second this suggestion, I own the "ancient faith" study bible and it includes in it many well known 'church fathers' from the early centuries.
Thank you for taking the time to articulate your thoughts here; I hadn't been aware of the single/double predestination distinction and also appreciate the information you added about this particular study Bible.
As a lcms Lutheran I'm glad you finally reviewed the Concordia Lutheran study bible this is really the conservative confessional lutheran church study bible appealing to Wisconsin synod,AALC,more conservative LCMC,ELS,CLC,and church of the Lutheran bretheran.As a person who has ties with Methodist ,free evangelical episcopal Roman catholic and Presbyterian I really appreciate your honest and caring reviews and teaching even when I don agree with you.God bless you keep up the good work.
And don't forget the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations (AFLC)....conservative, evangelical, and confessional subscribing to the inerrancy of Scripture. The Congregations are autonomous. We have much in common with the other conservative Lutheran bodies as indicated here. Thanks for the review.
Back in 2012 at the age of 47 I finally committed myself to reading every single word of the Bible. The King James Bible I had received as a Confirmation gift at the end of my freshman year in high school had gathered too much dust over the decades, and I wanted a good study Bible. Being brought up in a very traditional Lutheran church, LCMS when I was baptized, then confirmed in the ALC after many of the LCMS churches in Ohio switched to that denomination, I decided to buy The Lutheran Study Bible from Concordia Publishing House. Having severe allergies and allergy-induced asthma which makes keeping my focus and concentration hard and wears me out mentally, I had to take it slow, and it took me seven and a half years to finish reading. I felt they did an excellent job putting that Bible together the way they did. And when I first purchased it I noticed a Catholic priest had made a comment that he felt it was one of the two best study Bibles he had read, the other one being Greek. So while your review was excellent DiscipleDojo, I have to say I disagree with your conclusion that you wouldn't recommend this Bible as your go to study Bible because it doesn't take enough views into consideration, basically implying it's too rigid and conservative. The Word shouldn't be like pudding or jello, it just is what it is, and many people these days want to pervert the Word to reach their modern day wishes of how they 'want' to interpret it. One more small suggestion, please don't refer to the ELCA as mainline Lutherans. They are very liberal and shouldn't be using Lutheran in their name. And the Augsburg Press isn't a good place to buy anything. Not surprising since they are the publishing house of the ELCA. The LCMS was mainline once upon a time until they got so full of themselves they chased the LCMS churches 'in Ohio and other states' (as once was in the church name) away. I do still appreciate the LCMS, and enjoyed KFUO radio before they sold the rights to the frequency away, but I will never be a member again. I'm more in line with the Orthodox Anglican Church. Unfortunately, they have too few churches in the U.S,. and none close enough for me to attend. Again, you did a wonderful job with your review.
I'm not a Lutheran and I still think this study bible is great. I love the amount of notes in it and the prayers scattered throughout, which is a nice touch.
LOVE your channel & your fairness, honesty, clarity, & charity towards other denominations. You never lose sight that we're all brothers & sisters in the Lord & part of His Body The Church. You have a new subscriber here. God bless you, your family, & this channel. Happy New Year!!!
I believe that you did a great job in reviewing the ESV Lutheran Study Bible, I am not Lutheran, but I truly like your review and assessment, you did a thorough job unlike other reviewers. Thank you for doing this, it gives many a good understanding of what they are getting.
This was an excellent review. I find my appetite whetted for both of these Concordia publishments. I am not Lutheran but Presbyterian, but the idea of a conservative viewpoint that does not debate the Word of God and supports it as it is written without ambiguity, I am tempted to order both of these. Thank you.
As a Presbyterian he probably isn't your cup of tea, but one thing you may like about the MacArthur SB is he comes with a VERY high view of scripture and does not even really entertain the alternatives.
I'm a cradle Lutheran (LCMS) who has wandered the Christian landscape and returned to conservative, confessional Lutheranism. I have the Lutheran Study Bible and Apocrypha, and I think you did a spot on job of reviewing both. I also have bought the CSB Ancient Faith Bible, and I liked your review on that as well. I like your reviews here so much, in fact, I'm moving on right now to watch your video on a personal theology library for ideas/motivation. I mainly purchase patristic and Lutheran volumes, but believe it is good to have books from other theological viewpoints to refer to and to challenge and test one's own theology. Good stuff here.
As someone who recently began worshipping with a LCMS congregation, I was looking for a more "meaty" study Bible that included windows into how Lutherans interpret certain doctrines and scripture. How wonderful to see your review of this Bible & Apocrypha pop up on TH-cam! I am anxious to have a Bible that includes definitions and usages for words from the original languages. The info about what was happening between the Old and New Testaments is an added bonus. Thank you for recommending this set!
I found this helpful. I've only been a christian for a year and go to a LCMC church and im still learning about lutheranism. I'll be getting this a eventually. I've purchased the cultural backgrounds study bible and the CSB study bible because of your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the fairness you give on different topics and not putting down anyone who looks at things in a different way. I would like to share an article done by the people at the EHV about the Red Sea and Mt. Sini. It is done by people with the highest regard for scripture and who I trust. I thought you might be interested in it even though you may not see eye to eye with Lutherans. (although this really isn't a Lutheran non Lutheran topic). I am open to both views on this but in the end the important thing is not the precise location, but the reality of the events and their meaning. - Also, On the topic of Lutheran... From listening to reviews of things, like the Lutheran study bible. I believe a common misconception of a Lutheran is that we believe Martin Luther to be a saint or even a prophet and that ALL he said and wrote is our doctrine. "By no means!" He said and wrote some crazy things -As a Lutheran (WELS) myself thank you for providing a resource for honest reviews of study bibles.
Confessional traditional Lutheran (LCMS) here. Great, fair review. Thank you. This is my go-to study Bible. I find it extremely helpful and has helped me grow and explain things tremendously. Um…there’s one more Study Bible from the most conservative branch of the Lutheran church….WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod). It’s the EHV (Evangelical Heritage Version) study Bible.
You did a great job in your review of both the study Bible and the Apocrypha. I was raised in a LCMS church and school. Your presentation taught me more about their conservative theology applications. While I too, do not agree or subscribe to some of their viewpoints, I find merit in adding these resources to my bookshelf collection. Thank you!
I think this Is a good valanced review and I mostly agree with what you said. I didn't know about the separate Apocrypha volume, so I will be ordering that. Thanks
The LCMS strictly teaches young Earth creationism, single predestination, Amillennialism, patriarchy/complementarianism. This study Bible will emphasize liturgical and sacramental theology. Good review of a conservative Lutheran study Bible. Definitely recommend both resources.
Honestly just for the esv translation of the apocrypha i feel like that one is worth it, not including all the great material you get with it. I didn’t really want an rsv translation though its not a bad translation i believe, just like esv better
I am a Luthern LCMS. Thank you for your comment of out study Bible. You talked that there may have been a contriction about comments made about the first rainbow. Rainbows only exist after a rain, up until the time of the flood the bible said it had never rained. When God created our world he built in the rainbow, it never showed up until the first rain, the flood.
I appreciated your review, JM. I agree that the Concordia Bible is superior to the Fortess one. I am former ELCA and, frankly, just can't stomach the direction it has gone as a denomination. Not only do I think the Fortress Bible is a poor study Bible, but also untrustworthy. An uninformed Bible reader could easily be misled into less than orthodox interpretations of Scripture. Even though I don't agree with everthing in the Concordia Bible, and wish it provided a wider variety of perspectives, I have no concerns about it's orthodoxy. I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in learning more about Lutheran Christianity.
My son attends a Lutheran High School. They work through the entire study bible in their 4 years of Faith/Religion class curriculum. We also have a copy that I take to church for my Bible Study. I love it!
Thank you for another great review! I know you couldn't really speak to the academic or theological qualities of the notes in the study Apocrypha, but the rest of the study Apocrypha looked incredibly useful -- do you feel comfortable giving a cautious recommendation to non-Lutherans who are interested in reading the Apocrypha? I don't know why, but though the video quality I selected is 1080p and your videos are usually incredibly clear, I was unable to read most of the text of the books you were reviewing -- I'm unsure if this is on my end or YT's end. I couldn't make out any of the notes in the Apocrypha -- are there any references within the Apocrypha to other apocryphal books or to canon books of scripture? I was impressed that this study edition of the Apocrypha included books not within the Lutheran canon -- would've loved to have seen notes included for those as well, but it's understandable why more resources weren't put into books that aren't part of their own faith tradition: these extra books are just a lovely, unexpected bonus!
The camera I was using for overhead can't focus in on small text, unfortunately. Working on finding another option. I'd definitely recommend the Apochrypha volume as a standalone if for no other reason than to have an ESV version with intro and study notes.
This was a great video. I’m not Lutheran but would you say the “The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition With Notes” compliments Crossway’s ESV Study Bible? If not, would you please recommend one? I so wish Crossway offered this. Thank you very much.
The Lutheran Edition of the Apocrypha works well with any of the ESV study Bibles. The Lutheran Study Bible itself is an ESV edition. The title page of the Apocrypha reads 'English Standard Version', although the copyright page lists it as being 'adapted from the Revised Standard Version'. (Which is also the case with the ESV Bible translation) As stated in the video, this set is targeted at a Confessional Lutheran readership, and the notes will reflect that on doctrinal subjects.
And don't forget the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations. We are conservative, evangelical, confessional, and congregational in polity. We have much in common with the other Lutheran Church bodies indicated here. Thank you for the review.
The Book of James I believe was originally Jacob, because there is or was no James in Hebrew or Greek. I understand that the Amish in Ohio don’t have James, but instead they have Jacob. Was there more than one translation of the Bible in the German lands after the Reformation?
I love this channel. It has helped me develop a love for theology. I have been inspired to take a college level biblical study course in my free time. Unrelated, I would like to know your thoughts on the Urim and the Thummin. Despite the Old Testament prohibition on divination, these objects were permitted. Was it divination? If not, what was their purpose? I hope you have time to provide a response or point me in the direction of a resource. Much love- Troy
Love reading this! Thank you for the encouragement! To answer your question, the type of divination Scripture prohibits is using rituals to inquire of *other* gods or spiritual entities. Urim/Thummim and casting lots were not considered to be divination.
@@DiscipleDojo Thank you for your reply! That explanation makes sense. I look forward to your future videos. I have shared your excellent video with Dr. Skylar on Leviticus with some friends. I hope you have more theologians on in the future.
I don't know anything about the latter, but the former is pretty similar to a Wesleyan view of holiness (which I hold to), from what I've studied of it. I'm not persuaded by most Augustinian/Lutheran/Reformed views of sanctification that I've come across.
@@DiscipleDojo I'd also appreciate your take on differing views of sanctification/holiness -- I really liked how your Calvinism v Arminianism videos clearly and fairly explained the positions of both. I don't know much about different views of sanctification across Christianity so maybe I'm asking for too much of a time sink for a relatively little discussed topic (versus Calvinism/Arminianism, which is a perennially relevant topic).
My only criticism would be that you criticized this resource for not bringing in other views and making them a part of the conversation (not an exact quote, but pretty close). Lutherans believe in the perspicuity of Scripture. We also believe that where the Bible speaks, we should speak; and where the Bible is silent, we should remain silent. Now, that last one is an enormously difficult task, and there are times when notes in the Lutheran Study Bible might miss the mark on that, just a little bit. But in principle, that is what we should be aiming for in the study notes of a Bible. And it isn't the work of churches, pastors, or publishing houses to expose readers/hearers to a variety of opinions, and then leave them in doubt or confusion as to what the Bible clearly says. It is good to expose readers to various opposing points of view. I think the Lutheran Study Bible does quite a lot of that. But it doesn't leave it up to you to pick your favorite perspective on the menu; nor should it, because that's not what the Bible is doing.
Given that he is not a Christian, our starting points differ widely (as do the scholars we find more persuasive). But there are enough polemic/apologetic channels out there, so I prefer to leave the response videos to them, honestly.
Lutherans are not within the Reformed tradition (Lutherans came BEFORE Calvin). The Reformed tradition stepped beyond confessional Lutheranism and employed rationalism which we wholeheartedly reject.
Have you ever reviewed the NJKV Evangelical Study Bible that is Christ centered, faith building and mission focused? I haven’t seen any reviews on it by you, unless I missed it. Again, thank you for your honest reviews. What are these terms complimentarism, etc? I am somewhat unfamiliar with these terms. I am coming out of a Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox tradition, since I came to Christ in 2020. I am very grateful to your channel and great and honest bible reviews. You do your reviews in a greater way than some other reviewers which I truly appreciate, thank you and God bless you and your ministry.
I am not familiar with that one, but am happy to look at it if anyone wants to send me a copy. Complementarianism refers to the theological view which says women are not allowed to teach or preach to men in church settings and not allowed to be ordained as Elders in the church.
@@DiscipleDojo Then what is egalitarianism? That is another term mentioned, is it opposite comlementarianism? Are there any other terms that I do not know of in Christianity? Thank you.
@@tigger55100 Complementarianism: men and women are equal in personhood, but are created to fulfill different roles. Egalitarianism: men and women are equal in personhood and there are no gender-based limitations on the roles of men and women. There is a lot of theologically significant vocabulary -- maybe try looking into checking out a dictionary of Christian theology?
Thanks very much for this. If nothing else, your review taught me the basics of Lutheranism! I wouldn’t want a study bible whose theological position was founded so strongly in one Sixteenth Century person who held so many Church Fathers in contempt, but many of the features of this bible seem very helpful.
A comment a bit broader than this specific Bible. One of the criticisms that is leveled against some religions (Jehovah’s Witnesses come to mind) is that they have their own version of the Bible. (A criticism which I feel is entirely valid.) How is a Lutheran Study Bible, or for that matter the CSB (Baptist), the LSB (Calvinist) or any other denominationally sponsored Bible any different? I think like any Bible reader, I am trying to discern the truth that God is conveying without the bias that is associated with a denominational sponsorship. Personally, I would prefer a Bible that either not associated with a denomination or at least transparent in their translation decision, such as the NET Full Notes edition. JMS (I am not sure what name you prefer) if you would do a video on this topic it would be greatly appreciated.
@@WatchtowerHunter the problem with the NWT is not that it is done by JWs...but that it *specifically* distorts the underlying text for doctrinal reasons. All translations are interpretations...but not all are *honest* interpretations.
I want to learn Greek. We had a saying in my Kempo Karate class, 'few things are more annoying then a know it all white belt'.....So let me explain the Greek to you......:) JK
@@DiscipleDojous confessional Lutherans tend not to claim them, they tend to not hold on to anything distinctly Lutheran at all. So in that sense they aren’t Lutheran, it would make as much sense as calling your local Pentecostal church Bulgarian orthodox…
I own this bible. It is the best one for these reasons. 1. Dating of all the books. Early dating for both old and new testament. 2. Notes are critical of the critics. The critics do not even read their own scholars i.e. Bishop Robinson on "Redating the New Testament." 3. The lectionaries an reading plans. 4. Depth of study notes and prayers. 5. No female pastors, deacons, elders or bishops. Only deaconesses. 6. ESV translation is tighter to KJV lineage than the NRSV. The only thing I do not like in this is the Lutheran law gospel dialectic and distinction. The law is covenental making it a gracious guide to holiness. The law/gospel contrast was Luther's plagued introspective consciousness interpretation. That is why Roman's 7 follows. Roman's 7 is a rhetorical I. The sinner in Roman's 7 is the moral person in adam, not Paul the person. The one not condemned in Roman's 8 are those who are in Christ empowered by the Spirit. There is a big chasm between the two. I am not Lutheran, but have recently been attending a Lutheran church and that is how I came across this bible. It is one of the best and most accurate, except for the law/gospel contrast. Dan
Note on number 2. Bishop Robinson on "Redating the New Testament," argued that every New Testament book was written and in circulation before 70 AD. When read and interpreted from this point of view it gives the most accurate view of New Testament interpretation. The liberal critics can not see the Forrest because of the trees! They keep building on foolish and faulty foundations. And the keep building on them ever since the critical era. Archeological evidence, and new historical evidence is also destroyed the JEDP theory. Again this liberal scholars do not even read new things. It is the "word of God." Not what liberal critics can pick and chose!
Agreed on Romans 7 for sure. I just think there are better study Bibles out there from an evangelical perspective on issues of higher criticism, though.
@@Daniel-id6le Lutherans teach the third use of the law which sometimes has been called the didactic use: through the law God teaches those who have been justified and reborn how they are to live as Christians.
Luther doesn't say the law is not gracious. He says it is not the gospel. The gospel is that which sets you free from the law. The law is living by rules before God, wether or not those laws come from the bible. The gospel makes the soul free from being anxious about breaking laws, because it is now bound to something more important. It is not a rejection of laws as such. Laws are necessary for humans, they are good. But they are categorically different from gospel. They still serve to inform us. But e.g. laws against idolatry, as laws they are almost useless and tend to make us not inquire our own heart, but as a topic to dwell on, to inspire to seek for the ways we are currently being idolatrous and accept that we can't get rid of it, and that it's the process which is most important, they are completely part and parcel of a Christian life. A Christian who imagines himself not an idolater, is the biggest one. And that's okay, well all grow. The law, as law, simply condemns everyone immediately. The gospel is found all over the place, not just in the NT, but Christ is the key to seeing it.
Read the Bible not study Bible because they tell you what they think the written word means read the Bible and think for yourself not what some from 200 to 100 years ago
@@nancyconklin104 that's actually super prideful because it means you're unteachable. Instead, we should read from many sources and weigh them thoughtfully, being willing to admit we don't know everything.
LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) or LCWS (Wisconsin) vs. ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church Association) - there were originally 4 Lutheran branches, AMC & (ECA ?) combined to become ELCA, (not a good move for AMC which was excellent) most true Lutherans probably eventually left ELCA as it ate away at the foundations of AMC, more & more. Important to point out that LCMS, Missouri Synod & Wisconsin Synod, LCWS really do not want to be associated with ELCA doctrinal teachings - kinda like Methodist is not Baptist is not Protestant is not . . . type of scenario. MS & WS feel like ELCA is a "falling away" from true Lutheran doctrine & has been seduced & corrupted by the world, like how Paul mentions associates who abandoned him for worldly ways. You summed it up in 2 words, liberal vs. conservative. The differences go so much deeper than you realize: ELCA has more & more women preachers, open & accepting of trans/gender & support abortion as "a solution against the crime of multi-generational poverty", etc. whereas this is absolutely abhorrent to MS & WS, & completely the opposite, except; IF a REPENTANT sinner of those sins, SINCERELY wants & needs forgiveness, welcome with open arms to succeed in getting them through it, closed communion, etc. MS & WS are nearly identical in every way except 1 key issue they can't seem to resolve, (1 verse from Jude or James ?); WS will not pray for others outside of their membership community whereas MS heavily relies upon the entire rest of the world desperately needing prayers. I was not born & raised Lutheran & will never consider myself a Lutheran again . . . "ignorant amillennialist" meaning, they don't even realize they are being taught this doctrine, by lack of teaching what amillennial means . . . nearly completely avoid Revelation entirely & deflect questions about it . . . this Concordia Lutheran Bible gives more information than the previous Lutheran Bible review that you did. Basically, Luther rejected it so they refuse to go there - it's like; where Luther's guidance ends, so does their belief end, since Luther didn't even want to include James & Jude or Revelation, they are like fish removed from water, flopping around on the shore. They only teach/preach on what they want you to know & they are thorough & dedicated to the scriptures, I greatly respect Lutherans for this BUT they discourage any thinking outside the box. For me, it's the whole Bible or it's not the Bible at all - I refuse to have any doctrine forced upon me by "neglect", so I can no longer be Lutheran, any more than I could be a Catholic or "whatever" religions that are way too complicated, I trust in Jesus saying, "For My yoke is easy & my burden is light." & His New Covenant as quoting from Jeremiah 31:31-34.
I’m a Lutheran…and a Lutheran pastor (LCMS). That’s my study Bible. And I think you did a great job! Enjoy your channel immensely!
Can you tell me what confessions, creeds, and cathecisms are present in the Bible? I saw Luther's Small Catechism, but are there others or do Lutherans primarily only care about this one in particular? I would appreciate your input.
@@ThePaulKMConfessional Lutherans hold to the Book of Concord which Luther’s small catechism is included in there. The Augsburg Confession and small catechism are probably the most succinct books in the book of Concord to understand Lutheran beliefs
I am Methodist, but enjoyed this review and want to buy both books. Love your Bible reviews, especially on study Bibles.
I am a retired Lutheran pastor, not of the ELCA or Missouri Synod but from a smaller conservative and evangelical group of Lutherans. You did a great job on the review and presented it fairly while expressing your own studied personal views. A couple of things I will highlight that I think requires comment.
First, one of the things I like about this study Bible (which I own) is the wealth of quotations from the church fathers on passages and sections of the Bible. I have not noticed any study Bible, except the Orthodox Study Bible, that gives us insight how the early church fathers viewed these passages, as they provide a supplementary commentary to the passages (although not on the same level as Scripture, it is helpful). I think it is a distinctive that could have been highlighted more.
Second, one of the distinctives of Lutheran understanding of theology that is different than Calvinist, is the idea sometimes called "Single Predestination". This is where reason is subordinate to the Scripture. If those who are saved are elect, logically there should be the reverse that those who are lost are elect to damnation, but Luther did not teach this view of "Double Predestination", because it is not clear in the Bible that this is true. He submitted his understanding on this topic to the Word, not to reason. The passages on election are focused on those who are saved, not on those who are lost. Our understanding is that the Word as it is written and preached creates faith in the hearts of those who believe, and this word calls us to faith: "faith comes by hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ" (Rom. 10:17). Through this means "As many as were appointed to eternal life believed" (Acts 13:48). To the unbelieving world, all they hear is the Law, which condemns them. That is why it is necessary to have a proper distinction of Law and Gospel, both to show our sin and to show our Savior.
I like your channel, and think you have done a good job in this review.
This was helpful to me, thank you!
On the Church Fathers quotations, there is the Ancient Faith Study Bible that is also reviewed on this channel you could check out
Good reflections. Thanks!
@@christophekeating21I'll second this suggestion, I own the "ancient faith" study bible and it includes in it many well known 'church fathers' from the early centuries.
Thank you for taking the time to articulate your thoughts here; I hadn't been aware of the single/double predestination distinction and also appreciate the information you added about this particular study Bible.
As a lcms Lutheran I'm glad you finally reviewed the Concordia Lutheran study bible this is really the conservative confessional lutheran church study bible appealing to Wisconsin synod,AALC,more conservative LCMC,ELS,CLC,and church of the Lutheran bretheran.As a person who has ties with Methodist ,free evangelical episcopal Roman catholic and Presbyterian I really appreciate your honest and caring reviews and teaching even when I don agree with you.God bless you keep up the good work.
And don't forget the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations (AFLC)....conservative, evangelical, and confessional subscribing to the inerrancy of Scripture. The Congregations are autonomous. We have much in common with the other conservative Lutheran bodies as indicated here. Thanks for the review.
Back in 2012 at the age of 47 I finally committed myself to reading every single word of the Bible. The King James Bible I had received as a Confirmation gift at the end of my freshman year in high school had gathered too much dust over the decades, and I wanted a good study Bible. Being brought up in a very traditional Lutheran church, LCMS when I was baptized, then confirmed in the ALC after many of the LCMS churches in Ohio switched to that denomination, I decided to buy The Lutheran Study Bible from Concordia Publishing House. Having severe allergies and allergy-induced asthma which makes keeping my focus and concentration hard and wears me out mentally, I had to take it slow, and it took me seven and a half years to finish reading. I felt they did an excellent job putting that Bible together the way they did. And when I first purchased it I noticed a Catholic priest had made a comment that he felt it was one of the two best study Bibles he had read, the other one being Greek. So while your review was excellent DiscipleDojo, I have to say I disagree with your conclusion that you wouldn't recommend this Bible as your go to study Bible because it doesn't take enough views into consideration, basically implying it's too rigid and conservative. The Word shouldn't be like pudding or jello, it just is what it is, and many people these days want to pervert the Word to reach their modern day wishes of how they 'want' to interpret it. One more small suggestion, please don't refer to the ELCA as mainline Lutherans. They are very liberal and shouldn't be using Lutheran in their name. And the Augsburg Press isn't a good place to buy anything. Not surprising since they are the publishing house of the ELCA. The LCMS was mainline once upon a time until they got so full of themselves they chased the LCMS churches 'in Ohio and other states' (as once was in the church name) away. I do still appreciate the LCMS, and enjoyed KFUO radio before they sold the rights to the frequency away, but I will never be a member again. I'm more in line with the Orthodox Anglican Church. Unfortunately, they have too few churches in the U.S,. and none close enough for me to attend. Again, you did a wonderful job with your review.
I'm not a Lutheran and I still think this study bible is great. I love the amount of notes in it and the prayers scattered throughout, which is a nice touch.
Same here.
LOVE your channel & your fairness, honesty, clarity, & charity towards other denominations. You never lose sight that we're all brothers & sisters in the Lord & part of His Body The Church. You have a new subscriber here. God bless you, your family, & this channel. Happy New Year!!!
I believe that you did a great job in reviewing the ESV Lutheran Study Bible, I am not Lutheran, but I truly like your review and assessment, you did a thorough job unlike other reviewers. Thank you for doing this, it gives many a good understanding of what they are getting.
This was an excellent review. I find my appetite whetted for both of these Concordia publishments. I am not Lutheran but Presbyterian, but the idea of a conservative viewpoint that does not debate the Word of God and supports it as it is written without ambiguity, I am tempted to order both of these. Thank you.
As a Presbyterian he probably isn't your cup of tea, but one thing you may like about the MacArthur SB is he comes with a VERY high view of scripture and does not even really entertain the alternatives.
i love your channel. Thank you for making your teaching free! God bless you.
A very fair and level headed review, as always. I’m a big fan of your videos! 😁
I'm a cradle Lutheran (LCMS) who has wandered the Christian landscape and returned to conservative, confessional Lutheranism. I have the Lutheran Study Bible and Apocrypha, and I think you did a spot on job of reviewing both. I also have bought the CSB Ancient Faith Bible, and I liked your review on that as well. I like your reviews here so much, in fact, I'm moving on right now to watch your video on a personal theology library for ideas/motivation. I mainly purchase patristic and Lutheran volumes, but believe it is good to have books from other theological viewpoints to refer to and to challenge and test one's own theology. Good stuff here.
As someone who recently began worshipping with a LCMS congregation, I was looking for a more "meaty" study Bible that included windows into how Lutherans interpret certain doctrines and scripture. How wonderful to see your review of this Bible & Apocrypha pop up on TH-cam! I am anxious to have a Bible that includes definitions and usages for words from the original languages. The info about what was happening between the Old and New Testaments is an added bonus. Thank you for recommending this set!
I go out of my way to purchase Lutheran Study Bibles for my congregational members whenever they request one.
I found this helpful. I've only been a christian for a year and go to a LCMC church and im still learning about lutheranism. I'll be getting this a eventually. I've purchased the cultural backgrounds study bible and the CSB study bible because of your reviews. Keep up the good work.
I'm a member of the LCMS and this is my "anchor" study bible but not my only study bible. Thank you for your review. You did a great job.
Great review. Balanced and fair as you always are.
Thank you for the fairness you give on different topics and not putting down anyone who looks at things in a different way. I would like to share an article done by the people at the EHV about the Red Sea and Mt. Sini. It is done by people with the highest regard for scripture and who I trust. I thought you might be interested in it even though you may not see eye to eye with Lutherans. (although this really isn't a Lutheran non Lutheran topic). I am open to both views on this but in the end the important thing is not the precise location, but the reality of the events and their meaning.
- Also, On the topic of Lutheran... From listening to reviews of things, like the Lutheran study bible. I believe a common misconception of a Lutheran is that we believe Martin Luther to be a saint or even a prophet and that ALL he said and wrote is our doctrine. "By no means!" He said and wrote some crazy things
-As a Lutheran (WELS) myself thank you for providing a resource for honest reviews of study bibles.
I'm a new adult confirmand in the LCMS and believe I think I benefit from this Bible! Thanks for the review.
YOOO I WAS GOING TO BUY THIS!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!
I got this study Bible for Christmas. It’s fantastic! Yes, I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran.
Confessional traditional Lutheran (LCMS) here.
Great, fair review. Thank you.
This is my go-to study Bible. I find it extremely helpful and has helped me grow and explain things tremendously.
Um…there’s one more Study Bible from the most conservative branch of the Lutheran church….WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod). It’s the EHV (Evangelical Heritage Version) study Bible.
Most conservative is debatable...they're more conservative on who can vote in the congregation but less conservative on the office of pastor
You did a great job in your review of both the study Bible and the Apocrypha. I was raised in a LCMS church and school. Your presentation taught me more about their conservative theology applications. While I too, do not agree or subscribe to some of their viewpoints, I find merit in adding these resources to my bookshelf collection. Thank you!
Thanks for the review!
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You should pick up the Didache Bible. Its an RSVCE and my favorite Bible for study as a Catholic
I think this Is a good valanced review and I mostly agree with what you said. I didn't know about the separate Apocrypha volume, so I will be ordering that. Thanks
The LCMS strictly teaches young Earth creationism, single predestination, Amillennialism, patriarchy/complementarianism. This study Bible will emphasize liturgical and sacramental theology. Good review of a conservative Lutheran study Bible. Definitely recommend both resources.
Lovely review.
Thank you for a very thorough review - I agree that this is too one-sided but, as you said, that's what it sets out to be.
Great video. I’d enjoy these.
They should publish both Bible and Apocrypha in one study Bible.
Honestly just for the esv translation of the apocrypha i feel like that one is worth it, not including all the great material you get with it. I didn’t really want an rsv translation though its not a bad translation i believe, just like esv better
Thanks for this tip, ill get this apocrypha 👍
@@israelrivera3009I believe there is an ESV catholic edition that has the apocrypha all in one book.
@@EthanPatterson4321nice i tried finding one several times and never found anything
@@EthanPatterson4321 thank you!!, but id rather this lutheran one, cause i d rather lutheran study notes than catholic ones
I am a Luthern LCMS. Thank you for your comment of out study Bible. You talked that there may have been a contriction about comments made about the first rainbow. Rainbows only exist after a rain, up until the time of the flood the bible said it had never rained. When God created our world he built in the rainbow, it never showed up until the first rain, the flood.
I appreciated your review, JM. I agree that the Concordia Bible is superior to the Fortess one. I am former ELCA and, frankly, just can't stomach the direction it has gone as a denomination.
Not only do I think the Fortress Bible is a poor study Bible, but also untrustworthy. An uninformed Bible reader could easily be misled into less than orthodox interpretations of Scripture.
Even though I don't agree with everthing in the Concordia Bible, and wish it provided a wider variety of perspectives, I have no concerns about it's orthodoxy.
I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in learning more about Lutheran Christianity.
My son attends a Lutheran High School. They work through the entire study bible in their 4 years of Faith/Religion class curriculum. We also have a copy that I take to church for my Bible Study. I love it!
Thank you for another great review! I know you couldn't really speak to the academic or theological qualities of the notes in the study Apocrypha, but the rest of the study Apocrypha looked incredibly useful -- do you feel comfortable giving a cautious recommendation to non-Lutherans who are interested in reading the Apocrypha?
I don't know why, but though the video quality I selected is 1080p and your videos are usually incredibly clear, I was unable to read most of the text of the books you were reviewing -- I'm unsure if this is on my end or YT's end. I couldn't make out any of the notes in the Apocrypha -- are there any references within the Apocrypha to other apocryphal books or to canon books of scripture?
I was impressed that this study edition of the Apocrypha included books not within the Lutheran canon -- would've loved to have seen notes included for those as well, but it's understandable why more resources weren't put into books that aren't part of their own faith tradition: these extra books are just a lovely, unexpected bonus!
The camera I was using for overhead can't focus in on small text, unfortunately. Working on finding another option.
I'd definitely recommend the Apochrypha volume as a standalone if for no other reason than to have an ESV version with intro and study notes.
This was a great video. I’m not Lutheran but would you say the “The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition With Notes” compliments Crossway’s ESV Study Bible? If not, would you please recommend one? I so wish Crossway offered this. Thank you very much.
The Lutheran Edition of the Apocrypha works well with any of the ESV study Bibles. The Lutheran Study Bible itself is an ESV edition. The title page of the Apocrypha reads 'English Standard Version', although the copyright page lists it as being 'adapted from the Revised Standard Version'. (Which is also the case with the ESV Bible translation) As stated in the video, this set is targeted at a Confessional Lutheran readership, and the notes will reflect that on doctrinal subjects.
And don't forget the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations. We are conservative, evangelical, confessional, and congregational in polity. We have much in common with the other Lutheran Church bodies indicated here. Thank you for the review.
The Book of James I believe was originally Jacob, because there is or was no James in Hebrew or Greek. I understand that the Amish in Ohio don’t have James, but instead they have Jacob. Was there more than one translation of the Bible in the German lands after the Reformation?
It's ELCA not ECLA, you made the same mistake on the other review as well.
Also, they're as Lutheran as Mormans are Christian.
Does it have all the Mariology that Luther loved so well❤
JM would you do a review of the Ignatius Catholic Studybible old and new testament? It is going to be released in december!
@@wereldatlas if they send me one
I love this channel. It has helped me develop a love for theology. I have been inspired to take a college level biblical study course in my free time.
Unrelated, I would like to know your thoughts on the Urim and the Thummin.
Despite the Old Testament prohibition on divination, these objects were permitted. Was it divination? If not, what was their purpose? I hope you have time to provide a response or point me in the direction of a resource.
Much love- Troy
Love reading this! Thank you for the encouragement!
To answer your question, the type of divination Scripture prohibits is using rituals to inquire of *other* gods or spiritual entities. Urim/Thummim and casting lots were not considered to be divination.
@@DiscipleDojo Thank you for your reply! That explanation makes sense. I look forward to your future videos.
I have shared your excellent video with Dr. Skylar on Leviticus with some friends. I hope you have more theologians on in the future.
I would be interested to see your views on the new creation millennium view
Random question, whats your opinion on the EO concept of Theosis.
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Their concept of the incarnation and reincarnation, in relation to salvation.
I don't know anything about the latter, but the former is pretty similar to a Wesleyan view of holiness (which I hold to), from what I've studied of it. I'm not persuaded by most Augustinian/Lutheran/Reformed views of sanctification that I've come across.
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Do you hold to Wesleyan entire sanctification? Could you make a video on different views of sanctification?
@@DiscipleDojo so were to you attend church what demonization?
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I'd also appreciate your take on differing views of sanctification/holiness -- I really liked how your Calvinism v Arminianism videos clearly and fairly explained the positions of both. I don't know much about different views of sanctification across Christianity so maybe I'm asking for too much of a time sink for a relatively little discussed topic (versus Calvinism/Arminianism, which is a perennially relevant topic).
My only criticism would be that you criticized this resource for not bringing in other views and making them a part of the conversation (not an exact quote, but pretty close).
Lutherans believe in the perspicuity of Scripture. We also believe that where the Bible speaks, we should speak; and where the Bible is silent, we should remain silent. Now, that last one is an enormously difficult task, and there are times when notes in the Lutheran Study Bible might miss the mark on that, just a little bit. But in principle, that is what we should be aiming for in the study notes of a Bible. And it isn't the work of churches, pastors, or publishing houses to expose readers/hearers to a variety of opinions, and then leave them in doubt or confusion as to what the Bible clearly says.
It is good to expose readers to various opposing points of view. I think the Lutheran Study Bible does quite a lot of that. But it doesn't leave it up to you to pick your favorite perspective on the menu; nor should it, because that's not what the Bible is doing.
I'd be interested in seeing you respond to Dan Mclellan's takes on the Bible.
Given that he is not a Christian, our starting points differ widely (as do the scholars we find more persuasive). But there are enough polemic/apologetic channels out there, so I prefer to leave the response videos to them, honestly.
Lutherans are not within the Reformed tradition (Lutherans came BEFORE Calvin). The Reformed tradition stepped beyond confessional Lutheranism and employed rationalism which we wholeheartedly reject.
Have you ever reviewed the NJKV Evangelical Study Bible that is Christ centered, faith building and mission focused? I haven’t seen any reviews on it by you, unless I missed it. Again, thank you for your honest reviews. What are these terms complimentarism, etc? I am somewhat unfamiliar with these terms. I am coming out of a Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox tradition, since I came to Christ in 2020. I am very grateful to your channel and great and honest bible reviews. You do your reviews in a greater way than some other reviewers which I truly appreciate, thank you and God bless you and your ministry.
I am not familiar with that one, but am happy to look at it if anyone wants to send me a copy.
Complementarianism refers to the theological view which says women are not allowed to teach or preach to men in church settings and not allowed to be ordained as Elders in the church.
@@DiscipleDojo Thank you for your reply and appreciate the explanation.
@@DiscipleDojo Then what is egalitarianism? That is another term mentioned, is it opposite comlementarianism? Are there any other terms that I do not know of in Christianity? Thank you.
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Complementarianism: men and women are equal in personhood, but are created to fulfill different roles.
Egalitarianism: men and women are equal in personhood and there are no gender-based limitations on the roles of men and women.
There is a lot of theologically significant vocabulary -- maybe try looking into checking out a dictionary of Christian theology?
@@MM-jf1me Thank you Holly M for those definitions. It helps me a lot.
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Bit off topic sorry, but I’ve seen your amazing videos on premium bibles, do you know of any premium bibles that are English and Hebrew?
I haven't done any videos on premium Bibles. You may be confusing me with Tim Wildsmith or the Ten Minute Bible Hour guy.
Thanks very much for this. If nothing else, your review taught me the basics of Lutheranism!
I wouldn’t want a study bible whose theological position was founded so strongly in one Sixteenth Century person who held so many Church Fathers in contempt, but many of the features of this bible seem very helpful.
A comment a bit broader than this specific Bible. One of the criticisms that is leveled against some religions (Jehovah’s Witnesses come to mind) is that they have their own version of the Bible. (A criticism which I feel is entirely valid.) How is a Lutheran Study Bible, or for that matter the CSB (Baptist), the LSB (Calvinist) or any other denominationally sponsored Bible any different? I think like any Bible reader, I am trying to discern the truth that God is conveying without the bias that is associated with a denominational sponsorship. Personally, I would prefer a Bible that either not associated with a denomination or at least transparent in their translation decision, such as the NET Full Notes edition. JMS (I am not sure what name you prefer) if you would do a video on this topic it would be greatly appreciated.
@@WatchtowerHunter the problem with the NWT is not that it is done by JWs...but that it *specifically* distorts the underlying text for doctrinal reasons. All translations are interpretations...but not all are *honest* interpretations.
@@DiscipleDojo Thank you for the response. It is really appreciated.
At the very least, you will know you will always find the right answers in the Concordia Study Bible. 😉
@@stephenkneller9318 unless the question is "What is this passage actually teaching in context?" 😁😉
@ Even then the Concordia Study Bible will give you the right answer. 😉
You should really get the matching Book of Concord.
I want to learn Greek. We had a saying in my Kempo Karate class, 'few things are more annoying then a know it all white belt'.....So let me explain the Greek to you......:) JK
The Elca is not Lutheran.
It's literally in their name. 🤷
@@DiscipleDojous confessional Lutherans tend not to claim them, they tend to not hold on to anything distinctly Lutheran at all.
So in that sense they aren’t Lutheran, it would make as much sense as calling your local Pentecostal church Bulgarian orthodox…
The current New Testament was compiled by Pauline churches as a result they ignored other gospels that didn’t not fit their agenda
That is incorrect.
I own this bible. It is the best one for these reasons.
1. Dating of all the books. Early dating for both old and new testament.
2. Notes are critical of the critics. The critics do not even read their own scholars i.e. Bishop Robinson on "Redating the New Testament."
3. The lectionaries an reading plans.
4. Depth of study notes and prayers.
5. No female pastors, deacons, elders or bishops. Only deaconesses.
6. ESV translation is tighter to KJV lineage than the NRSV.
The only thing I do not like in this is the Lutheran law gospel dialectic and distinction. The law is covenental making it a gracious guide to holiness. The law/gospel contrast was Luther's plagued introspective consciousness interpretation. That is why Roman's 7 follows. Roman's 7 is a rhetorical I. The sinner in Roman's 7 is the moral person in adam, not Paul the person. The one not condemned in Roman's 8 are those who are in Christ empowered by the Spirit. There is a big chasm between the two.
I am not Lutheran, but have recently been attending a Lutheran church and that is how I came across this bible. It is one of the best and most accurate, except for the law/gospel contrast.
Dan
Note on number 2. Bishop Robinson on "Redating the New Testament," argued that every New Testament book was written and in circulation before 70 AD. When read and interpreted from this point of view it gives the most accurate view of New Testament interpretation. The liberal critics can not see the Forrest because of the trees! They keep building on foolish and faulty foundations. And the keep building on them ever since the critical era. Archeological evidence, and new historical evidence is also destroyed the JEDP theory. Again this liberal scholars do not even read new things. It is the "word of God." Not what liberal critics can pick and chose!
Agreed on Romans 7 for sure.
I just think there are better study Bibles out there from an evangelical perspective on issues of higher criticism, though.
Which study bibles?
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Lutherans teach the third use of the law which sometimes has been called the didactic use: through the law God teaches those who have been justified and reborn how they are to live as Christians.
Luther doesn't say the law is not gracious. He says it is not the gospel. The gospel is that which sets you free from the law. The law is living by rules before God, wether or not those laws come from the bible. The gospel makes the soul free from being anxious about breaking laws, because it is now bound to something more important. It is not a rejection of laws as such. Laws are necessary for humans, they are good. But they are categorically different from gospel. They still serve to inform us. But e.g. laws against idolatry, as laws they are almost useless and tend to make us not inquire our own heart, but as a topic to dwell on, to inspire to seek for the ways we are currently being idolatrous and accept that we can't get rid of it, and that it's the process which is most important, they are completely part and parcel of a Christian life. A Christian who imagines himself not an idolater, is the biggest one. And that's okay, well all grow. The law, as law, simply condemns everyone immediately. The gospel is found all over the place, not just in the NT, but Christ is the key to seeing it.
“You’re a godless heretic!” For the algo 😊😅
Read the Bible not study Bible because they tell you what they think the written word means read the Bible and think for yourself not what some from 200 to 100 years ago
@@nancyconklin104 that's actually super prideful because it means you're unteachable. Instead, we should read from many sources and weigh them thoughtfully, being willing to admit we don't know everything.
LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) or LCWS (Wisconsin) vs. ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church Association) - there were originally 4 Lutheran branches, AMC & (ECA ?) combined to become ELCA, (not a good move for AMC which was excellent) most true Lutherans probably eventually left ELCA as it ate away at the foundations of AMC, more & more. Important to point out that LCMS, Missouri Synod & Wisconsin Synod, LCWS really do not want to be associated with ELCA doctrinal teachings - kinda like Methodist is not Baptist is not Protestant is not . . . type of scenario.
MS & WS feel like ELCA is a "falling away" from true Lutheran doctrine & has been seduced & corrupted by the world, like how Paul mentions associates who abandoned him for worldly ways.
You summed it up in 2 words, liberal vs. conservative.
The differences go so much deeper than you realize: ELCA has more & more women preachers, open & accepting of trans/gender & support abortion as "a solution against the crime of multi-generational poverty", etc. whereas this is absolutely abhorrent to MS & WS, & completely the opposite, except; IF a REPENTANT sinner of those sins, SINCERELY wants & needs forgiveness, welcome with open arms to succeed in getting them through it, closed communion, etc. MS & WS are nearly identical in every way except 1 key issue they can't seem to resolve, (1 verse from Jude or James ?); WS will not pray for others outside of their membership community whereas MS heavily relies upon the entire rest of the world desperately needing prayers.
I was not born & raised Lutheran & will never consider myself a Lutheran again . . . "ignorant amillennialist" meaning, they don't even realize they are being taught this doctrine, by lack of teaching what amillennial means . . . nearly completely avoid Revelation entirely & deflect questions about it . . . this Concordia Lutheran Bible gives more information than the previous Lutheran Bible review that you did.
Basically, Luther rejected it so they refuse to go there - it's like; where Luther's guidance ends, so does their belief end, since Luther didn't even want to include James & Jude or Revelation, they are like fish removed from water, flopping around on the shore. They only teach/preach on what they want you to know & they are thorough & dedicated to the scriptures, I greatly respect Lutherans for this BUT they discourage any thinking outside the box.
For me, it's the whole Bible or it's not the Bible at all - I refuse to have any doctrine forced upon me by "neglect", so I can no longer be Lutheran, any more than I could be a Catholic or "whatever" religions that are way too complicated, I trust in Jesus saying, "For My yoke is easy & my burden is light." & His New Covenant as quoting from Jeremiah 31:31-34.
You don't love being called a Godless heretic?
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LOL! 😅 Well, he is, you know. 😏