WHY I KILLED MY TEACHER (True Crime Documentary) | Real Stories
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- William Cornick, a bright young man from a loving family, shocked the nation when he fatally stabbed his teacher, Ann Maguire, at his Leeds school. This documentary investigates the reasons for his pathological hatred.
From Britain's Deadliest Kids S1 Ep 1
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A kid is saying publicly on Facebook that he wants to kill his teacher, telling kids, for over 2 years and you guys are telling us this couldn’t be prevented??? COME ON!!! It could it could 100%.
I absolutely agree with you , but the loop hole of law is they can't take any action where no action has taken place , but I will say this that they could have put him in restraining order. But the question is can the law put a minor under restraining order?
this is not the USA, kids dont murder everyone all the time in the UK, so no, just because that crazy country is accustomed to that doesn't mean the first thing people elsewhere think is that it actually can happen
@ jassLmhn UK leads the world in knife killing
@@el_equidistante does the kids in uk have parents ?? Do you have families? Morals? Values? Cause 12 yrs old using Facebook with no supervision says a lot. Their kid had a clearly psychopath behavior and no one payed attention. This is not about what country you are from, it’s about parents doing what parents have to do.
Siria Mendez I agree on ur text
These “experts” are a joke! “He had a rage that couldn’t be seen.” He openly talked about murdering his teacher for two years. 🤦♀️
Right? all the signs were there! and The woman saying an amicable divorce does not affect the kids in such a way ugh. It's not about what happens to you, it's about how much it affects you. Some people could find braking a bone easy to get over but others can find it traumatic.
Sadly, I have to agree. I am a retired primary school teacher. I have taught more than a thousand pupils in my time. In my long career I believe I taught at least twenty children who showed extreme psychopathic behaviour. Unfortunately the mental health industry and the law prevents any sort of identification of these traits and rather seeks to ameliorate the obvious by labelling the afflicted child as "troubled" or "immature" but "likely to grow out of their current condition." What an absolute joke! How can a person suddenly be labelled a psychopath at 16 (Australia) or 18 (UK) but be seen as simply "troubled" beforehand? In the case of the children I taught with psychopathic tendencies, EVERY ONE of them ended up before the courts because of various crimes in later life. Had they been treated when first identified the pain they caused others as they grew up would have been prevented.
I hate to write this but human beings are no different to many other higher-order mammals. Some humans are just born bad with terrible temperaments. Dog breeders will tell you that you occasionally get a dog that is so dangerous in temperament that it has to be put down. Human children are no different. As a society we cannot deal with this truth so we have a whole industry of counselling and juvenile justice intended to steer these kids straight. Sometimes it works, often it doesn't. So what do we do? Do we label these kids early and keep an eye on them as they mature? Do we isolate them? I don't know what the answer is but we need to find an answer as every day there are more kids just like the young man in this story...walking time bombs.
@tripsadelica In America these types of kids are often diagnosed with “conduct disorder” which is essentially a euphemism for psychopathy. They don’t want to label a kid a psychopath because of the stigma that comes with the diagnosis. I agree with you, some people are unfortunately born this way and it’s very unlikely they’ll change.
@@moxie7896 Yes, so true, or "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" or ADD/ADHD. I know that in a democratic society this wouldn't go down well but it is my sincere belief that these kids should be identified early and that tabs be kept on them and the moment they act out they can be pounced on. One of the kids I taught was an extreme sociopath and would have killed you soon as look at you. He ended up in prison because he attempted to rob an armoured car, FHS!
He said that only on social media to his friends.
20 years? WTF seriously he will only be 35 when he gets out. He destroyed Anne’s life, her family, the kids and their families at the school. He fundamentally emotionally destroyed an entire community with no remorse. 20 years is a spit in the face
It's 20 years minimum as they said at the end , it's to expect that he won't come out untill a much longer time, if ever, because they know, that he is a very dangerous psychopath (they call it "psychopathic traits" 'couse he's so young)
There are some laws in European countries where 20 years is a maximum 'sentence' but then there can be an additional ruling tacked on to it where someone can be held indefinitely based on an assessment of the offender's danger to the public. Brevik will never see the light of day again, for example.
It was life with a minimum of 20 yrs
.. it is truly isn´t it.!! Just unbelievable sick diz MaFu Idiot.!! ... 2 celebrate with a bottle ... ! Just never let´m out.!! Never ever.!!
That’s the UK for you! They are disgusting and the judges sympathize with the killers!
I left teaching public school after 13 years. People have no idea the threats we face and the risk we take walking into classrooms every day. We run lockdown drills, active shooter drills, bomb threats, fire alarms, how to instantly lock your doors, install and drop a curtain on your door, what to do if your room is breached, but no one tells you what to do, especially when the kids start to get bigger than you, how to handle when they become aggressive and make threats and refuse to follow directions.
absolutely! I only tutored while in HS and College (as a student), but I do not envy what teachers have to go through.. year to year, teachers don't know what their students are gonna be like.. our education system is declining rapidly and it seems to rarely be the fault of the teachers (well other than them becoming overwhelmed and/or w/ BS pay, the curriculum standards, etc... its a mess..
thank you for being a teacher, I'm you were a good one who did their best! thank you! 😊
I see and converse with my HS teacher from 30 years ago, I would say he's only in his late 50's now so still in teaching and hes told me how different it is now and although I remember him being somewhat of a relaxed teacher, he was respected by everyone. He said now he doesn't even bother trying anymore, he can't do anything about anything because of all the red tape he has to adhere to. He just lets the kids play on their phones and misbehave in class because it's not worth trying to resolve it...it could cost him his whole career. He said he had passion when he started teaching and wanted to make a difference but now he couldn't care less. What a sad state of affairs the world has gotten to.
I went to Santa Fe. Alot of teachers left after that. Since alot of the time, nothing is done about threat. In my case, only after 10 people were killed including Mrs Perkins, a substitute teacher ive had since i was young. Teaching isnt the thing to do anymore.
I don't blame you for leaving teaching, especially older kids.
Imagine I have three Educators a Teacher, Vice Principal and a Principal a Nurse. I’m always nervous as a Mom. We are living horrible times where there is so much evil. God bless un all. May this Teacher RIP and her Family find strength. What a troubled mind of this boy. Teachers should work towards as civil suet
These weren't just red flags. These red flags were large, bright, and being twirled and tossed by a team of fifty flag bearers. They were totally obvious. Complete and utter failure on all parts. This teacher's death was 100% preventable. Rest in peace, Mrs. Maguire.
The fifty flag bearers all chanting, "RED FLAG, RED FLAG.."
"I am very intelligently".
he twirled and threw flags all over the place like a color guard would
"When someone tells you who they are, believe them." -Maya Angelou
My absolute favorite Maya Angelou quote
“Before you marry a person, you should first make them use a computer with slow Internet to see who they really are.”
- Will Ferrell
I've met so many fake people how can this quote be true
@@jonahwallace3560 Well Jonah, what Maya meant by when someone “tells” she meant reveals. So whether they use words or actions …. Believe them. If someone is consistently fake that is who they are. Proceed with caution in making yourself vulnerable to a person with a complete lack of sincerity. But something tells me by the fact that you can easily spot a fake, that you already knew this on some level. Cheers
@@playnicechannel I don't usually spot it quickly just the last few years where I'm from most my friends started gangbanging or they're hooked on drugs and it changed them I don't have much of anybody left but I just keep going everyday working for a better future God bless everyones day and be thankful for what you have
He posted his hatred publicly on social media, he talked endlessly about his distaste for and desire to kill his teacher, he showed the knife to numerous students, and he told the other students mere moments before the stabbing what he was going to do. "If only there were signs." Jesus, I hope these people don't miss traffic signs like they missed all of that.
Also, "if she hadn't shown that day, he probably would have done it the next day" screams of prior knowledge. You can't tell me not one of those kids could have told someone ahead of time. It almost sounds like they wanted the woman out of their lives, too. I'm not saying that's true, but their lack of action sure makes a person wonder.
I have a feeling this kids wanted to see him do it.
He told so many people, was he waiting for someone to tell him don’t do it?
I 100% agree with all of this !! This could have been prevented. & how does a “rumor” that went on for years not get around the school & to administers ? Like seriously, a party on the weekend, fight, or a sleeping with someone rumor is spread & known by the end of the school day by the entire school !
He friends new he posted on Facebook and none told they selfish they kids in her didn’t that poor because of field trip please
They probably just laughed him off as being an edgy attention seeker. There's literally no point of showing/telling others about your plan to kill someone unless you want attention or are desperately hoping that someone stops you (I guess so that you still get to look like a cool murderer without having to actually kill anyone).
@@lizr990 ...what?
In the start of the video they say "he was so normal, like any other kids" and as the video progresses it's said that he actually was openly threatening to kill her. Not a just once...
Wether people believed him or not, it's highly unusual.
The parent say he was a sweet kid...
So was there brain damage?
This behavior isn't exactly something you just wake up with one day. There's always some type of sign. Lack of empathy must have already presented itself. Even if all this happend due to brain damage.
Maybe he had a lot of built up anger from SOMETHING. He’s probably not revealing the real cause of his anger issues he had. All the students who didn’t take him seriously didn’t realize how he would get bolder and bolder with each statement of wanting to kill her because he wasn’t exposed
The people making the script are probably terrible to make a narrative for the story.
Psychopaths can be very manipulative. They know who they can con into believing whatever they tell them. He told his peers about his intentions because he knew that they would be fearful of him. He let sufficient time elapse between his social media posts & when he actually did this violent act. So the friends & students believed that it was all a sick joke. He had never been a discipline problem at school & he got along with his siblings too. He also was a very good student because he took his grade level tests a year earlier than everyone else. Having a high I.Q., being a psychopath & narsassit, makes for a very dangerous criminal. This young teen even bragged to one friend that he was going to claim to all the authorities that he'd heard voices commanding him to kill the teacher. He attempted to pull that off but the prior claim was exposed. Being a psychopath isn't a crime until they literally commit a crime!
I’m so sick of people finding EXCUSES for not notify others...... of a terrible tragedy... But there were SIGNS..., he showed the knife... that’s a red flag right there!!!!
I can understand both sides. When i told my highschool councilor about the abuse and my dad threatening suicide they asked my dad who said i didnt understand what was going on since i was just an emotional and easily impressionable teenager. Half a year later my dad was arrested for trying to murder my mom. Then a few years later a school mate was killed in a murder suicide after his abusive father snapped. No one believed either of us
@@hannahfordyce9261 How terrible! I hope you are doing ok now.
Seriously tho! The kids who he messaged should have said something! or atleast told their parents who may have notified the school. It’s terrible.
calm down, they're just children.
Kids and teenagers have trouble speaking about their own issues, let alone randomly calling someone they know out for potential murder. You are delusional if you’ll blame these kids for being bystanders on a regular day during a killer’s plot.
This is so shocking and devastating. She was a teacher who dedicated her life to her students. She didn't deserve that.
@C’est la vie they were the teacher. They're telling us from the afterlife via TH-cam comments
@C’est la vie we know this by the way everyone else is talking about this teacher. NO ONE is saying she wasn't like by the student body.
Either way, I'm glad that you don't have a problem with kids $tabbing teachers in school. Where I'm from, we have a huge problem with this behavior. Congrats on being an ignorant a$$hole....
@C’est la vie this is why the world is the way it is. Dude go back and watch the video, the students said she was a great teacher.
@@ImInfluence not true, before the millennials it was already happening. What’s going on now is a mimic of what happened before 2000, what they see or watch is what they learn, all of that on tv is just a continuance of the same taught on tv before the millennials.
It is disturbing that not one person felt COMPELLED to say anything. That should be utterly instinctual!
Shows how little parents are involved with their children and vice-versa. So called "professionals" were also blind to the obvious signs. How feeble people have become.
Here in the United States you’re labeled a racist or a karen for speaking about suspicious behavior…
Lolol at human instincts in 2021.
It absolutely sickened me when they said that he showed the knives to other students and no one reported it.
not one..that's evil
Why didn’t his classmates say something after he showed the knife and told his plans… I don’t understand, this could have been averted…
As a teacher I have seen that students, especially teenagers have this strange "honour" code amongst themselves. Even the good kids, for fear of being labelled "a rat" will keep silent. Very frustrating when trying to get to the truth of an issue.
@@personal3766 I understand, but he was talking pre-meditated murder.. not only telling classmates but posting on FB and not one person even as much as alerted anybody.. I have told my son if ever he see’s or hears anything like this either in a classroom or online tell me.. I can take it from there, but it may just one day save a life..
@@personal3766 My teenage son agrees...to be a "snitch" is a fate worse than death. He would even do time for something he didn't do, rather than tell on the real culprit. I can't wrap my head around it...not how it was when I was growing up!! I just hope Teachers and Law Enforcement are aware of this 'honor code".
They usually never do. They feel like they live in another reality from adults.
do his parents not view his social media tho? lol
I agree with everyone this could have been prevented and no one went to the police. No one told the teacher that a student in her class had a terrible obsession to murder her. Stop looking for excuses he was sane and he knew what he was going to do.
That poor woman. I would have gone after him to stop him at the time. ☹️☹️☹️😥😥😥
You're a grown woman most likely so you also would react differently than a teenager. Remember that a couple of years went by between the killers statements to friends on FB & when he actually carried out the murder. As I went by, he knew that everyone that he told would have thought, yea it was just an idle brag nothing to it. Also if they'd gone to the police or authorities at the school, since this male student had NO PRIOR violence, they all would have not had a legal reason to arrrest or do anything but QUESTION him. This killer is intelligent enough to talk his way out of showing any plan & he would have said that he was only fronting & it wasn't serious. Remember he said that if caught he would say that he heard voices telling him to kill her. This psychopath is proof that he also had an inflated sence of himself that NONE OF THE RULES APPLIED TO HIM. He shouldn't have to turn in homework, they had no right to deny him the field trip & that because this teacher did all of these things, then SHE had to be penalized for taking these actions. He was her judge, jury & exocutioner. He will always be a killer.
Kids steal your school supplies from each other all the time .. But no one thought to steal this knife from him so that he doesn't kill the teacher ?
Those students were absolutely complicit and share partial responsibility in this horrific crime. He talked about it for months, said he would do it, and showed people the weapons on the day of. They let it happen.
I can’t believe he showed a knife to others and they did nothing … they could have gone to the toilet and warned another teacher ….
Facts
They should have yelled out when he was walking towards her with a knife
It’s crazy how not one of them even attempted to save her
Not for months but for years. He talked about killing her for years.
Just one, if just one student said something. R.I.P
Exactly
@@hanaashaba1263 🙃
@@twincherry4958 😏😏😏
Nazis turn in people for crimes they have yet to commit. Are you some kind of mind reader or just living in the movie minority report?
Af×wws
Such a sad case. I can’t believe that no one could have helped to stop this.
Everyone failed that teacher. And sadly William too. This could have been prevented so easily.
If anyone hears or sees someone talking about killing someone please tell someone doesnt matter if you think they wont do it you need to tell someone it needs to be taken serious this happens way to much with children hearing other children saying they want to murder someone and it ends up happening cause no one speaks up
Ann may have been the first killed in a classroom, but the epidemic of knife violence that teachers face has been going on for much, much longer. My mother was a teacher at a high school in Essex and had a knife pulled on her by a pupil back in 2006. A gym teacher (thankfully) happened to be passing and rugby tackled the *girl* threatening my mother and although the girl was excluded, the PE teacher was also fired as the girls parents claimed should not have "put his hands on their daughter"! My mother could have been the subject of this documentary if it weren't for that man.
I am also a teacher. I taught in a north London school for 2 years and knives were something we were constantly vigilant of. I ended up taking a teaching position at a school in Spain because of the limitations teachers have to protect themselves in the UK. I now own my own school and I am much safer and happier for it.
The UK has to bring in much more legislation to tackle knife crime and provide much better social funding to areas where it is rampant in order to cut it off at the start.
Yes, I hear what you are saying about knife crime. It must put so much pressure on the teacher. Knives can be hidden so well. Over to USA, the land of the free. American children can get their hands on AK 17 rifles. We all know the extent of school shootings.
This sort of thing didnt happen prior to 1990. Maybe prior to 2000.
So you guess where its coming from.
Gr8 signal from the school btw to fire the PE teacher. Im sure the next time something like this happens, everyone will try to stop it...
smh
I also can't believe his classmates didn't scream at the teacher about him coming...who does that????
this is exactly what I was thinking. This is not normal
Actually this is normal human behavior. Most people freeze and the mind goes into some sort of overdrive trying to understand what is happening.
Cowards
They wanted to see it, there’s no other explanation
Kids are so trained to sit and be quiet and to wait for teachers to tell them what to do, no one has the skills to know how to act in a situation like this.
WOW! Most children knew, and never said a word. Human behavior can be strange.
First person I would've told is my mama and she would've handled it from there
You're forgetting, kids today have absolutely zero respect for others and for human life. This generation is the most mentally messed up and ignorant generation ever. Totally
I bet all the other kids hate her too...🤷🏻♀️
@@hayleyjay4378 probably, it's just sad.
Anyone that knew and didn't say anything, accessory to murder. SIMPLE!
Losing a teacher is hard. I lost 2/3 of my favorite teachers. Middle school science teacher and junior year world history teacher.
We still love you Mr. Sandy, Mr. Mahan.❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤💟
Maybe we need to start considering that the amount of entitlement and "idle" threats and disrespect young men/boys are allowed to show women is UNHEALTHY and DANGEROUS. It always bothers me when these shows have people insisting he was a "normal guy" and the guy in question then murder people. If our concept of normal masculinity is indistinguishable from someone who is arrogant, volatile, disrespectful, and threatening, we need to change that.
You make an excelent point there. Didn't even think of that! Spot on!
women are treated with more leniency and acceptance when they hurt, murder, or abuse men.
Dude you arent allowed to say "Hi" to a woman anymore
@@BoZZmonsta420 You and Marro Wolf are missing the point SO hard right now
@@DwynTwo Nö, der Typ labert einfach unbasierten Müll
He shows people the knives, and they STILL don't believe him? Or did the ones he showed the knives to, hate her also? But enough to still keep quiet? There was one teacher when I was 10/11 years old that I despised. Did I despise him enough to hurt or kill him? No. And yes, I would've warned someone if I saw weapons on a fellow student with that intent. That was 45 years ago. Now, I'm only concerned with how many other students he harmed before he retired.
I saw knives at my school with some people that shouldnt have had them, but nothing happened it was to show off as is most of the occasions
Just to clarify.
That's 10-11 years old
Not 10/11 years old
@@UFOzNoJoke both are fine
@@UFOzNoJoke "Often, when a slash is used in a formal or informal text, it is meant to indicate the word or." But nice attempt at trying to correct someone, you'll get 'em next time.
I hated a couple of teachers from back in the day too
The guy telling everyone was a cry for help. Sometimes murderers leave a trail of evidence so people can understand their pain.
what pain? he was just showing off thinking he was cool
In some ways i thought that too.. maybe as in "if I tell people they will interfere and realize something is wrong and do something to change me" but as he kept talking about about it and giving warning signs and no one blinked at it... he got more and more encouraged or something.
I just dont understand how no one actually took him serious or warned anyone...
Get off the soap
Box
The
Only thing that satonic brat needs is the death penalty
He doesnt look in much pain to me.
I think he was bragging in a very bad way. He felt humiliated over the school trip and subsequent punishment to the group. The words are also meant to get status, as is showing the knife.
He will be found to have a lot of psyhopathology, wrt social aswell, bc he read the group completely wrong.
Then afterwards said he didnt give a f what they thought. I highly doubt that.
This could have definitely been prevented. He said that he wanted to murder her in numerous occasions. These students should have come forward, especially the friend that saw the knife in his bag. He could have gone and told members of staff "um, hi. That guy over there has a knife and he's been saying he wants to kill Mrs. McGuire."
As long as you think its not true, its not worth reporting.
As soon as you think it is true, possibly when you see the knife, youll feel threatened as a 15 yo.
They are 15 yo's. They have NO training or experience in dealing with this.
I get what you ate all saying, but for some of the students at least...it could have been a case of being afraid to 'rat' on him for fear of revenge.
@@marymackenzie4854 The problem with society is that there's a culture built around not being a ''rat" or a "snitch".
In this case, his buddies knew how he felt about that teacher and that he's voiced his murderous intentions towards her. When that one boy saw the knife, alarm bells and red flags should have been going off and he should have immediately reported it. That teacher could have been saved.
I'm a teacher myself and I fell students that if they see something, they should say something, and in fact one boy used that advice and at a party he notices someone dropping something into a water dispensing cooler. He notified a security guard and the security had that cooler removed. Later it was discovered that he water was spiked. Because that boy spoke up, he potentially saved dozens of his peers from being drugged, and possibly saved a lot of girls at that party from being assaulted. If you see something, say something
@@StofStuiver it's common knowledge that at schools, weapons are forbidden. That student should have reported the student with the knife. Friend or not. I understand that there's a fear and that the boy doesn't want to rat out his friend, but when there's a potential danger to someone's life, friendship has to be put aside.
The "expert" psychologist thinks he was lying when said he just wanted to be stopped. He showed 10 fellow students prior and told them his intent, he walked calmly to her room in front of those whom knew with a knife to do it.. I think if anything that shows it was no secret and there was atleast a slight expectation something would be done.
So not one kid could warn the teacher, maybe scream "look out"
They REALLY want us to know that this is the first time a student murdered their teacher in the classroom during a lesson.
And was stabbed 7 times...🤦♀️
As a Brit, now in Sweden, this was bloody well shocking
@Linda B Sweden is cool but expensive. I wouldn't live there..unless you like cold
@@epidemicrochip3033 I'm in the north (Skellefteå) so it's actually really quite cheap. It's lovely when it's cold, but seems strange for others
@Linda B It's wonderful! Here in the north, everyone is very friendly, crime rate is low, there's endless possibilities. And it's all not that expensive
@Linda B I'm actually not sure, I'm only 13 (soon 14), so only my parents will know really
@Linda B if you have any kind of education that could give you a job here you could probably apply for a working permit 🤷🏼♀️
"could this have been prevented?"
him: showed people the knives and told them his planes the day of,
winked at a student as he went to kill her
posted about it
made it known he didn't like her
the world: oh man how could we have ever seen this coming?
I feel so sorry for the student she was helping at the time of the attack.
The pupils, the school, people reading his posts on Facebook.... The parents! How can parents be unaware of the way their children are developing?
Because theyve got their noses stuck to their mobile phones..and so have their kids. Zero true,family time. So zero awareness
Evil walks amongst us , by doing nothing makes a person also guilty 😌
Lol you don’t know about that teenager life we do so much thing are parents don’t know of
@@highlyrecommended8278 it's not the things we do unknown from our partners, it's a lot of nuances of the behaviour and their duty to pay attention
@@highlyrecommended8278 lol it’s been that way for generations you’re not the first ones 🥸
Man the teacher looking after the teacher who got stabbed saying she’s loved hits hard
So this kid was happy about what he did, he had no remorse, would do it again, was completely unfazed about the destruction and trauma he caused to his school-mates, Ann's family or anyone else really. He had stated his plans for months, told countless people - even the day of the murder... And he gets a sentence of minimum 20 years?
He could be out by the time he's 35! He clearly has no empathy, remorse or anything to suggest he could be rehabilitated. He absolutely will do this again. I've seen a few British cases in which I would have expected a sentence of life without parole and the criminal gets a very lenient sentence. Something's wrong there.
Something's VERY WRONG - IT MAKES ME SICK!!!! THERE'S NO JUSTICE😡😡😡😡
Here in the US we've had others risking their own lives trying to stop school killers. Some have paid the ultimate price.
The difference is what weapon is used. If a person has a gun I’m running for the door not running to help the teacher.
Sadly school murders happens way to often in the US compared to the rest of the world so I think your pupils are more aware of such dangers. I think it is a cultural thing and ignorance, that said the UK is known for its knife attacks but maybe that wasn't an area known for violence . There are a lot to consider, I just think his FB mates should have shown his entries to grownups.
@@annab8189 we all know the saying don't bring a knife to a gunfight. The US has a gun problem with kids doing mass shootings, they are aware of it in the schools so those children might be emotionally a little more prepared. Your chances of surviving taking down a person with a knife is better than with a gun though. Maybe 15 year old children are not mentally strong and brave enough to react especially in the UK. Think of children growing up in an area with lots of violence around them, they will have a different instinct to children from a non violence area.
@@honeybunch5765 the u.s doesn't have a gun problem it has a dumbass problem.
@@angrydan79 Indeed. guns only kill when someone fires them...if the gun is not broken that is. There is never a "gun problem" it is only evil people problem.
I've been desensitized to true crimes for years but this case made me feel ill.
don't be desensitized, all these crimes have real victims
@@sentryogmixmaster why be sensitive? you are wishing weakness upon yourself
Every kid that knew ahead of time that day was complicit
No one tried to stop him?!! I know the KIDS at my highschool would have tried to take him down. This is soooo SAD!! 🙏🏻🥺😔
Sure lol
dont lie lol, people aren't as brave as they claim to be.
It looks like the kids watch did nothing that is disgusting
@Put God First There have been plenty of people (even kids in 9th grade) who have stood up to school sh**ters in the past. Didn't always end well for them unfortunately, but saved so many of their classmates lives
@@burnbridgesbuildboats214 yeah d*mb*ss because that's common in the sick society you call the USA, and it's not the same either way, an act with a knife suddenly happening in front of you is not the same as hearing shooting minutes before and realizing what's going on and preparing yourself mentally. How about all you keyboard warriors stop judging people you know nothing about and pretending you know how it is going through a situation you've never been in.
They already know he was very angry about being disciplined, so they shouldn't pretend not to know how it started.
dang that's sad, also I love your videos and I'm early!
This feels like another example of how mental health still isn't being taken seriously. Sure, the discussion on mental health is finally being opened up little by little. But unfortunately we're still nowhere near being on top of this crisis. I'm not sure about how health care is ran in the UK-- but in the US, people are either made to wait months for an expensive psych appointment or they're told to go to the even more expensive ED if they're feeling "thaaaat bad". It's honestly sickening.
At least in the UK they dont have instant access to rifles so they cant quickly kill 20 to 30 people.
@@MrLoobu Ok? What do guns have to do with my comment? I never spoke against UK laws and I definitely wasn't defending how things are done in the US. I wrote about how mental health care world wide, in general, needs to be taken more seriously/be more accessible in order to hopefully help prevent any more of these tragedies. But alrighty then...? 🤷♀️
@@emo_penguin420 I wouldnt call that "ok" or "alright" I would call that a great use of common sense. You cant talk about mental health in kids when its absent in their adults, as you say, America systemically does not care.
@@MrLoobu What are you even going off about? I'm one of the last people to defend guns, lol. Now please go bother someone else 👍
@@emo_penguin420 You dont seem able to defend or attack or speak about much of anything actually.
I cant help but to think, that after he talked so much about how he was going to kill her and even walked up behind her in front of the whole class, that those kids must not have liked her very much
Anyone that can do this, can never be trusted again.
Lock him up for good.
yep. 20 years isnt enough.
I hope he is never released. He's too dangerous. He has no remorse.
Thats not true christian.
Besides there is no such thing as 'trust' in general.
You trust someone with your car. You trust someone with your money. You trust someone with your health. You trust someone not hitting you in the face when you say 'hello'.
There is no such thing as you use it wrt trust.
In the most extreme case you may trust your dearest most trusted, most loved person with all of you. Usually a parent, spous, or something. And even then most people lie.
There is no such thing.
Heck, you can count yourself lucky if you can trust YOURSELF 100% !!!!!
You don’t have to come from a broken home to be a psychopath. He’s a psychopath…
Spot on.
The term 'psychopath doesnt mean anything in Europe, other than someone with psychopathology. Which is all of the population with DSM4 and onwards.
Only in the US is this used. And its nonsense. They use it, some even 'serious' as a simili to 'monster'.
Thats nonsense and completely unscientific.
Calling someone a 'monster' indicates TWO things: That you disapprove of this person and that you have no idea whats going on in that person. In other words, that you cannot comprehend different behavior. (usually brutal behavior).
So people that speak in such terms should also call lions, rhinos, sharks, wolves, etc, 'monsters'. After all, they express different behavior and can be quite brutal.
Instead they stroke their little cousins and love them.
How is it ever going to help anything if you divide the world in normal people, and monsters?
See the problem here?
I just remembered the poem 'A Poison Tree' by William Blake. This incident is a perfect example of the poem.
I’m shocked by the lack of regret and remorse shown by the students. It’s like they are desensitised to human tragedy. A horrible story. How can they ever let the killer out of jail where he could become obsessed with hating someone else who hasn’t done anything to deserve it?
You think you can see people's inner thoughts and feelings in a 45 minute documentary?
@@MargaritaMagdalenaI’m pretty sure the documentary was a lot longer, many hours probably, and was then edited to fit its time slot. If there had been any remorse they would have shown it but there was obviously none.
@@sukijay4990 Where did you watch the hours-long version of this?
@@sukijay4990 Can you give me an example of someone who's showing visible regret and remorse?
@@sukijay4990 Being seriously in love is ecstasy and agony at the same time. Sometimes it's so bad you can't take it and wish you could die. Have you ever seen this emotional state reflected in someone's face? I for one looked like the same comfortable vegetative mediocrity that I was pre-love, even the people who know me intimately only knew about my feelings because I told them about it. So you certainly can't see a person's feelings in a few minutes of interview on video. You're not God, okay?
I don't think it is that hard to understand why he did it. I am more worried about the fact that he told a lot of students, for a prolonged period of time,that he would do it, and no one said anything to prevent it. That is the most scary thing about the case.
You really think we care about others as a teen we care about are self it called the greedy age .
@@highlyrecommended8278 ok maybe that’s a you thing, but that’s very abnormal. Most teenagers care about other people, especially enough to prevent a murder. If they don’t, that means they are probably severely mentally ill or disturbed
@@highlyrecommended8278 not all teenagers are like u surely there are some to do the rightway to help others
@@highlyrecommended8278 that's not true. I know so many teenagers that are loving, committed and working very hard and as volunteers in youth groups, coaching and taking care of younger children, playing music together and yes, they do stupid things, too. Get drunk, have crazy ideas, screaming and shouting at home...but you know, not evil! Becoming and adult is hard and always has been. And there is a big difference between doing - well - teenage crazy stuff and killing someone.
It's obvious. They didn't like the teacher either.
Thank you to that eloquent fellow student who spoke during the video. As an ex teacher it is gratifying to learn that the strength of the students rose to the surface after the incident and they excelled in their exams. I taught over 12000 teenage and adult students and many had mental and personality issues but no-one harmed another person. They were just challenging to work with. Very good documentary. Thank you.
I was going to make a comment about something else but I suddenly made a shocking realisation about my own high school experience which may be linked to this case. Around the time this happened, (2014ish) our school (a high school located in Eastern England) implemented a new policy of checking students' bags every morning. We were never really told why this was a new policy so a lot of students made a huge stink about things and yelled about privacy and whatnot, especially because nobody would tell us what the whole thing was about. I was one of those kids, but I never said anything to a teacher's face and let them check my bag every day, and then I'd vent to my friends at lunchtime how I thought it was completely unfair and absolutely humiliating that middle aged women could go through my bag and look through my stuff... which often involved a change of clothes and feminine hygiene products (as I am a girl who also had female friends who couldn't always afford their own pads/tampons, and I would quite often have some sort of sports thing straight after school so needed something to change into). I left high school in 2017 and tbh I forgot about the bag checking as it really wasn't that big a deal at the end of the day, and the policy was ruled out a while later. Teachers would only check bags if they had a reason to check them afterwards, which the students were happier with, and I think the most they ever found was some booze that some girl had swiped from her parents, cigarettes and vape pens and maybe a Swiss army knife that some kid had forgotten in their bag after they went camping over half term, which they happily handed over to staff to keep for the school day when asked as it was a genuine mistake on their behalf.
I'm now 21 and in university. Only today, watching this documentary about something I didn't even know had happened, I have come to the horrible realisation that there was a really good reason why that policy was implemented. It does seem to match up time-wise with this case and would make total sense that teachers would be on high alert. My high school was pretty rough and students physically fought with and mouthed off to teachers and each other on the daily, but I can't remember a single time where anyone might have said that they'd kill someone, even as a joke, but at the end of the day, what do I know what my classmates were thinking.
isn’t it just crazy? i graduated from high school in 2019 and was at a school that was ten minutes away from the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school in parkland Florida. I was a sophomore i think when the parkland shooting happened and oh my god we felt the effects so heavily and so many things changed in our school after that (didn’t help)
None of his classmates said or did anything to stop it?
Wow!!
Facebook banned President Trump for mean post… Why didn’t they do something about it?
This is what's wrong with people nowadays. People think someone won't do it (or is just seeking attention), until he/she actually does the bizarre thing, shock everyone and then it might be too late to save someone's life. And classmates didn't do anything?
Better to save yourself than to try and fight an armed person that's already killing someone else.
Thats what i say. No one moved. No student moved.
It not my problem if he was come to me with the knife I would pick up a desk throw at him
not just nowadays, unfortunately its just human instinct to not want to get involved in situations like this in case they turn out to be wrong which in their minds is 99.9% of the time, and honestly if they had reported his social media comments I doubt the police would have gotten involved, I think if it wasn't the poor teacher it would have been someone else... this is why we have to actively teach people to report anything even if you want to assume its nothing
This!!! They ignore it all till it’s stabbing them in the back. Now it’s an issues and a big concern…
The female psychologist that said, “there were no signs to predict this was going to happen” needs her licensed revoked…
Even if the classmates were too scared to report him in case he went for them, they could all have done it anonymously.
I am in thorough disgust of these innocent seeming children. I'm soon to be 14, and can't bare IMAGINING somebody around my age committing such crimes.
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As u go through life u shall c that some people r jus made different than others n its the way the world is....
What would be your opinion on whether or not these children should've been treated as adult offenders? I'm American, and we are far from ideal in dealing with juveniles, but I really wonder how a young person now views this issue. Thank you.
@@fauxpinkytoo that's something I'll think about, really good question though.. I've heard American jails are really bad compared to Norway and Sweden
You must have a very good life with nothing traumatizing happening in your life. I know I wasn’t that lucky, and my adoptive mother came close many times to dying in her sleep… by my hands. I flaked out over and over, but each time I tried for it… I got braver and braver. You don’t know all the details of the behind the scenes as to what pushed these young ones… the answers might creep you out more than these stories of the killers you read about.
It's very repetitive and there's a lot of time wasted with so-called 'experts' making ridiculously generalised and obvious statements. 'He stabbed the teacher. This shows he disliked her'. WOW. Genius level psychological assessment there. Did she get paid for saying that.
6 x it repeats that it was first time it happened to a teacher during class.
18 x it repeats that he seemed 'normal.
zzzzzzzzz Could have been a 20-minute documentary without all the music, effects, repetition, etc.
First truly formulaic Real Stories documentary I've seen. They're usually quite good.
Oh my God so true
It's one sentence of new information for every 10 minutes of old information
@@tatendam4956 lolololol so true
Agreed. Especially that woman. She probably studied at Obvious State University specializing in assumption and speculations😂
Great you just saved me time, 😊
I hate the British justice system - there’s no justice! 20 years is a joke and if they’re letting out people like him then no one is safe!
So he couldn’t go on a school trip and he killed his teacher for that Lord have mercy
He was practically bragging about his plan on killing his teacher prior to the incident his classmates may have dismissed it as a joke but when they saw the knife they should have informed their teacher of their classmate's sinister plan because obviously that is not a joke anymore
The complacency is profound in these people.. especially since everyone carried on while William killed his teacher, so nonchalant and not a peep from anyone
I think it was preventable! Not all kids who comes from "bad" families do bad things! This is horrible and he has to be made a example of what happens when you kill!
20 years is not a good example of what happens when you kill. America's justice system is messed up but it's a lot better than this.... most of the time... ok some of the time. But I agree with you, they should have made an example out of him.
Hindsight is 20/20.
@@JeannieLorene He's technically a confirmed psychopath, some people could deal with him though...
Thanks for all y'all do!
This story, brings back, memories of my Youngest son, calmly walking up to a student in his class who had pulled a knife on their Physical Education (PE) teacher, while the rest of the class, sat on the blechers, trying to call him back and stop him (son), he successful talked the other pupil down, and got him to give him the knife that he promptly handed to the teacher, I of course praised him for rescuing the teacher, but out of fear for his life tell him not to do it again, but rather go and get help from another teacher or use his cell phone discreetly to call the police, I mean what do you do?
Your son is going to change lives. In a good way.
Wait what?! Is it that common for students wanting to kill their teacher with knife?? Scary world
@@Vyansya oh yea its more common than you think. I keep hearing stories like this its awful
I'm shocked that students, teachers, and visitors, aren't searched in some way prior to entering a school these days...specifically in the United States where school violence is so prevalent. Seems there's quite a simple solution to resolve such a serious problem but nope let's just play Russian roulette 🤷♀️
I dont feel the psychologists on this case had the faintest idea what they were doing. a lot of generalised observations. The profile they tried to create was based on common assumption. Im sure, had they a little more expertise they would have explored other angles right from the start. I do not sympathise with a murderer, but I do believe there is some very deep reason behind what he did. Phsycopath, ya, but perhaps the way his life going as well, possibly being ignored at times. Not being taken seriously when he felt anger or pain. For a child being that ignored can manifest some deep issues. The clearest signs of this internalised trauma is the fact that he warned so far ahead of his hatred for the teacher and yet no one took it seriously. His entire personality is associated with this inferiorating treatment. Perhaps even as a younger child he went through emotions and deep feelings but the very people around him ignored him. A gross failure of recognising a boy's feelings from a young age. Unfortunately, in his case it manifested deeper. That, combined with possible genetic traits, made a lethal combination. Perhaps he suffered some abuse as a younger child by hands of an adult (possibly a female adult) and just never knew how to emotionally express it, probably due to upbringing norms (boys don't cry kinda element... was a Catholic environment afterall...). What upsets me most by the psychologists who analysid him is that they simply gone text book and not willing to go anyway beyond that. This simply is not a text book case (a.k.a. being the first of its kind in the UK). Him wanting to go to military (before diabetes diagnostic) is also a sign of need to be in power, probably due to past disempowerment complex. The diabetes disempowered him even more. Peoples' reactions to him killing is also dissapointing. Some saying "there is no excuse" or "psychological issues doesn't matter" etc. That just goes to show how blatently people ignore his deeper issues. Our deepest need in life is to be recognised. He had to achieve that by an extreme measure. Possibly because he has been ignored as a child by - extreme measures. What should happen here is, a well trained expert without any text book or pre-intentions must go and sit down with this young man and work with him to understand his deeper pains from baby times. Perhaps he even needs to be held at times. This might already be slightly late given that six years have passed since the incident, but not impossible to stil try. But, he will need to remain in jail. He's not suitable for normal society, regardless. People must stop trying to assume common traumas are everyone's trauma.
i completely agree. to say he was of sound mind makes no sense. no one of sound mind kills people, especially a teacher infront of other student in the middle of class. I think you're right about being ignored. in British culture it's normal to ignore your crying child.
Baloney. Just kill that evil boy. Eyes for eyes, lifes for lifes.
The reason these things happen is because the perpetrator knows he won't receive anything close to what he did. He will receive understanding and sympathy. He should have had his head slammed so hard on the desk as soon as the police arrived. An eye for eye will save us from these kinds of needless tragedies.
exactly, once they start doing these type of justice for these victims (eye for an eye). would definitely slow down these type of murders. all they get is jail time and get let out and end up killing more people which has happened many of times to these murderers being let out. the justice system is a fail system for victims..
It just goes to show how a good attitude is so important
why didn't his classmates yell or something, yk so the teacher could've been prepared to it and runaway. I have no faith in humanity
@Hayden Massalsky When you see your friend with a knife approaching the teacher normally you should say something, even if the kid got a fake one.
plus this isn't USA. No one in UK expects a child to be violent...even if he's talking violence.
he hid the knife in his sleeve?? And they were looking down on their work anyways?
Maybe the other students didn't like her enough to save her.
@@theoryofpersonality1420 are you kidding me😐 i wouldn't want my worst enemies to die, i would save them no matter how much i don't like them😐😐😐
I find it interesting that they’re blaming the diagnosis itself, rather than the possibility of brain damage occurring during his sudden collapse and coma. Unknown (and known) brain damage has been responsible for events like this many, many times.
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That whole class knew nobody said anything it's like they were waiting for it to happen
As a diabetic with anxiety and claustrophobia, I can't imagine being in prison
@@kush1000ful ikr...and to have routine would even freak me out
I'm an older white non-Karen with no legs in a wheelchair. I'm from the hood, but be damned if I had to run from one them women!!! 😂😂😯😬
This Zacc kid is so poised and well spoke - impressed
Fragile ego of a child? Inability to handle any criticism? Feel bad for his classmates and the teacher’s family. Inexplicable. I hope he gets help.
THAT boy is beyond help...
Help??? We should be thinking about HELPING THE FAMILY OF MRS MAGUIRE - THE VICTIMS OF THE CRIME, NOT the perpetrator.......
Students would prefer to video the entire event without intervening.
I legit think they wanted to see if he was gonna go through with it.. like no one even told their parents? The whole time he talked about his hatred and how he wanted to kill her? Ok
Garrett... unfortunately l think you are probably right...teenagers can be ghoulls ....😣😣😣😟😟
That’s not true. Even back when I was in school before internet was popular… there’s some teachers I would have been silent for too. 🤷🏽♀️
well hyper individualism is promoted and belonging to any group unless its a woke group is looked down upon, lets not forget the left called everyone who did intervene in the past a white knight and belittled them so blame the culture
They knew and did nothing
What a sad world we live in nobody's safe
And none of the kids in class thought to be like, "Hey, there's a KNIFE??"
Unbelievable not one student, went to principal with all these messages, that's disturbing also.
Did you ever look at social media and what is said there?
They'd have to hire 20 times the police force to check that all out.
The problem is in western societies, which are rotting as we speak.
At the end they talk about why the kids didn't say anything, the one kid interviewed says at the time he did it nothing could be done,we were in shock. Ok, but he showed kids the knife, he told them what he was going to do,he posted it on Facebook. But yet-- NOTHING could be done!! He could have been stopped absolutely didn't have to happen. 3 years of warnings!!
If I saw a classmate with a knife saying he wanted to kill, I would have spoken out. I do find it extremely strange.
@@honeybunch5765 sure kid, you are a hero, bravo!
Yup, I would've definitely ratted out that kid and his plans
If you looked at it from another point, maybe the Teacher was destined to die by the knife....Not everyone will die of old age, that the only explanation I would give as to why no one reported it ,which is totally weird. Or the teacher was not liked by the other kids too
@John Smith you are right, I wonder why in Germany such cases don't happen.
Ridiculous that they say this couldn't be prevented. My kid's schools have zero tolerance policy re threats whether it's school, texts, social media.They immediately call resource/police officers, isolate student, call all students homes, send email to inform parents & depending on level of threat. They also either lock down school or send kids home & arrest involved parties. Yes, there are laws in US & UK that he could have been charged.
Really? Who the heck made the rule that you can’t be a psychopath until you’re 18 ???? That makes no sense to me.
This happened in my city just before my daughter was to start school. I homeschooled her. It was a first-grade student and the teachers first year.
What a horrific way to pass away 😞…. Rest In Peace beautiful woman
16:18 I really appreciated the Dr. Suess esque rhyme before the murder, thanks Real Stories.
The psychologist said “not many teenagers are obsessed with knives and death”. I’d say 90% of teenagers are obsessed with knives and death in one way or another. Especially knives. Teenagers go through that “ooohhhhh it’s dangerous” stage with everything. As a psychologist, I’d assume she should know a little more about teenage boys. This boy in particular was obsessed with CAUSING death. There’s a difference
Yes I totally agree. I was wondering if that struck anybody else as well. Many teenagers become obsessed with knives & more especially violence or violent media whatever but many don't become obsessed with killing somebody. I had teachers I didn't like in school. Strongly disliked but when you're that age everything is such a huge emotion so you actually feel like you hate them. And yet even so I never once thought of murdering them. And never would go so far as to plan & actually commit said act.
There was absolutely MANY opportunities to stop this had people spoken up about his behavior. At least the teacher would have known to be on alert around him instead of being comfortable around him seeing as how “he didn’t fit the profile or come from a bad family”. The p9lice and psychologist are all delusional! I guarantee you the teacher would have taken all the threats against her life seriously… he should NEVER get out.
Why does the interviewer/commentator bother relaying what the parents thought of him....
It’s not like they’re going to say he is an arsehole or he is evil.
I always find that ridiculous
Sad that not a single student yelled, got up, threw a book, or
Even ran for help!😒
They are born evil, no matter how nice you are to them.
Rest in peace to Wonderful teacher.That demon no what he was doing.Threat other students,an had been planning kill,an bottle Jack Daniels.
Why didn't the other students say something, just seeing a teen with knives is suspicious in it self even if they did not believe him they could have saved her
Kids are not in their right minds these days (the majority anyway). When my son was that age 20 years, ago there were some psychos in his class.
Because all the students are hate the teacher and they were so eager can't wait to see her dead, I feel very sorry for her😥😥
In Asia, teachers are revered almost like a saint, regarded more than a friend, but feared almost like the fiercest warrior.
In the Western world, teachers are just ordinary people and everyone's equal.
Ikr 😂
Blame liberals
True.
@@fancyfeast4610 Blame conservatives that oppose paying them properly.
Same here in the pacific..we respect teachers sometimes more than parents... we do not talk back to them or anything. Also if our parents find out we did something wrong at school oooohhh u gonna get it at home. These kids seem to not respect or fear anyone.
Kids scare me nowadays. Not only do some of them have to deal with dysfunction (sexual or physical abuse, parental drug/alcohol abuse and/ no on cares or helicopter parents) in the household, they also have the ever- lasting bullying at school from peers AND teachers (always been happening). They now have extreme social standards to keep up. I will not be surprised if the number of child killers goes up. And ppl.....report this crap if you see something and think something may be wrong. And if your wrong an apology is easier to be responsible for then someones death.
Don’t be afraid too Speak up if you know something… It could made a huge difference… so sad 😞
Well, what would have happened if someone had talked about his intentions to kill his teacher? Nothing can be done! Children nowadays r untouchable.
The school would suffer retaliation if they had called the police coz a student was caring knifes and said to other students he wanted to kill his teacher. Probably the school would b acussed of repressing and embarrassing a poor student.
I was attacked by one mine students many years ago. Nothing was done! The student was not even suspended. I never stepped inside of a classroom after that. I realized I was alone, and I didn't want to wait to see what else that student could have done against me.
Oh my gosh. I’m sorry that happened to you. That must have been traumatizing!
@@mathcuratorzanachan3574 it was a very difficult moment for me. It took me a long time to get over it.
What really hurt me was the fact that the school didn't do anything!
Thanks for your simpathy! ☺️
Wow these classmates do nothing! Unreal.
How sad that "many children go through the divorce of their parents". Such a sad statement.
Some people are just born evil.
I also feel bad for the kids who saw that period they are just sitting in class, another normal day and all of a sudden their teacher gets stabbed right in front of them. I'm curious as to what their reactions were. Nobody got up to try to stop him? Maybe they were in shock as to what was happening or in fear fear. Maybe a little bit of both both?
thats just so traumatizing to see
Maybe the teacher wasnt the saint they make her out to be. Idk, kinda getting a good look into the monsters most thses teachers are now a days
@@kyleholmes7317 wtf
@@kyleholmes7317 what's wrong with you, edgelord? Even if there are cases where teachers are found guilty of misconduct, the killer is still a young man. Saying that she deserved it is just outright misplaced blame, as all the fault points to the perpetrator. If there are issues with teachers, it should be handled diplomatically by adults, not by the children.
It is what it is.
The format of the story telling here bleus!!
1 is the number of kids that could have spoken up to prevent this. 0 is the number of kids that did. 20 is the ridiculously small amount of time this psychopath got for what he did and a lifetime is the length of pain her family will endure because of him. R.I.P Anne. 💔