@user-sz1li6ld2p also since this game is so predictable to the point that they basically spoil it themselves, I say that the Ipc actually follows Voracity and the aeon Oroboros expect for Diamond which is why Eilo is against the Ipc in the first place for the most part he is likey natural towards Diamond since he the only Ipc that dose follow preservation likey an temporary alliance until all the other Ipc head life's are crushed especially Oswaldo Schneider
@@Josh-qt5zi facts also I think their are bosses we will fight before nanook like bosses like oroboros it's kinda like how aventurine of stratagem boss is a semi boss in the penacony story quest and sunday is the main boss I think this will be the case oroboros the semi boss and nannok the final boss I also for some reason think the reason why the stellaron hunters are getting stellarons is to merge it with trailblazer to make him an aeon
0:07 tbh, I doubt we’ve hit the half way point: HSR doesn’t (from my own knowledge.) have a cutoff point like Genshin, since its story is like Honkai impact 3rd’s, where it will keep going till we reach a conclusion. (Untill we do the thing the MC was made for, like Kiana becoming the COOF, which technically ended part1, but even then HI3 is still going :/) If HSR will or ever ends, will be when the devs explain just about everything, and or we make it to akiveli’s home world. (Which even then, I don’t think will happen for awhile.) With how many detours, how many stops, and characters we’ve seen and met, I don’t think we’re going to be done for awhile. (Besides herta’s space station, penacony and Belobog were destinations meant on the original Expedition, *the Loufu was not.* And so far, we’ve gone back twice and are supposed to go to a new planet after the 2nd Loufu arc, instead of our original destination. From what it looks like, it’s every other planet that we get launched off course, and if that keeps up, will be a lot more than genshin ☠️. Assuming Pom Pom’s concerns are accurate, and the express is actually running out of fuel, (if we keep going at the rate we’re at, we’re probably going to see 14 planets, and visit 25, since we’re going to keep making pit stops.)then it could be even longer before we ever make it to asdana. ) Tbh, I doubt tbh is journey is anywhere but over, and even if we assume HsR has an already defined timeline like Zzz and GI, then that’s even worst, since we’ve not even gotten a year into HSR, and GI is probably going to go for another year or two ☠️ (Genshin started at around 2020, meaning it’s been around 4-5 years, and they’ve gone through 5 patch, if we assume all hoyo games will typically last, or get to that patch point, then that’s literally 5-6 years of story, which HSR is barely even a year old ☠️) Yeah, imma be honest, I doubt we’re half way, maybe a third of less, but I have a hunch we have a bit longer to go. (Unless something bad happens, like HSR getting canceled, but that’s for the future to hold.)
@@FD-wl7xq 100%, but like, that’s jus next version :/ (that’s literally a reason why we’re going off course .-.) Like, where going to 14 planets at this rate ☠️
Ah its just a turn of phrase, I dont think were near the middle either and its pretty hard to guess given theres no clear number of planets or milestones. My only guess would be before the end we would learn or have interacted with most of the aeons and the major paths so if that turns out to be the case weve only really done 3 out of 18 total aeons
Oh, no. Both HI3 and HSR have very same "cut off point" just as Genshin. Genshin: 7 Nation/Elements. 1.0 Travail Teaser shows the whole roadmap. After we acquire all the 7 Elements we enter the Endgame with Khaenriah/Sea of Flowers at the End. HI3: 14 Herrschers. Each arc centered around a Herrscher and once we were done with that, we entered the endgame with Herrscher of Finality. HSR: 7 Paths. Just like Black Swan's Myriad Celestia showed, we will acquire 7 Paths and after that we enter the endgame which is presumably fighting Nanook. It's very likely we get a few more playable paths (Remembrance Aeon was shown in the roadmap after all), but that's about it.
Someone speculate that Luocha maybe related to faction creed exquy because he use coffin and his character story mention "People would clamber to high places in groups just so they could witness their city's demise. If everything were to end, then there shall be at least one witness." I wonder if this true
I have this really weird idea that at some point the stellaron hunters will leave elio for the trailblazer given how attached they are to them already. Which them makes me think that maybe the TB is actually elio but... naahhh 😂
@@Maevix3142 This is some "TB from the previous Samsara" stuff... lol But seriously like the commentator before i think Elio is somehow connected to Match 7th past=true self obv.
5:16 idk if you notice this but everytime we warpjump we actually see glimpses of the future events in the tb mission 5:29 wait this isnt a warpjump, but this scene is from belobog altho we are still in herta space station that time and belobog wasnt even released
@@Josh-qt5zi And thus Remembrance cracks when we enter Battles is related with the Universe Memory of Fuli and Terminus Prophesy (which was one of the first indications before Fate Atlas and other content was added) yep
I actually kinda made a nonsense theory about how the universe is in a loop and its tied to the screen cracking thing and why we can see future glimpses 😂
Little bit of detail you missed. In memmory bubble they actively attempt to summon terminus to present day. This implied that they attempt to hasten the coming of finality.
I dont remember the details of the memory bubble but from what I can remember it seemed more like a ceremony purposefully created to either welcome the aeons presence or as you mentioned summon them which then im wondering how did they even accomplish that
@@Maevix3142 the bubble specifically use the word "summon" I will quote some of the bubble. 'It is apparent to you what they are doing. they are summoning THEM, the noble being who travels against time... " As for how, it mentions weaving threads and withering leaf of the world tree possibily referring to connecting a path to destroyed world on imaginary tree. Keep in mind in HSR world, imaginary tree theory proposed by genius society no 1 Zander Kuabara is currently rejected so it is natural they use other name like "world tree". Here is the part of the bubble that I quote: "Through a spiritual ritual, they weave the threads of time in an attempt to trace backwards from the last withered leaf on the World Tree to the first bud in the beginning of everything." This is just my current theory; that Aeon of finality most likely a herscher of finality and this tied HSR back to its honkai element that is still absent until now.
What does getting the gaze of an aeon even mean it has to be more than just getting an eon to look at you otherwise the trailblazer would’ve already caught the gaze of aha because you can hear them laughing during the phantylia Boss fight could it have something to do with connecting deeper with a path and the normal pathstrider but not to the point of becoming an emanator
I think it's just a blessing obtaining system from the aeon when the MC shows a strong emotion towards a path. Aha was just there for the laughs while we fought phantylia, he did not had to necessarily gaze at the MC.
@@ultra5803 iirc gaining a gaze gives you a power boost depending on that specific path.Like if U drew the gaze of erudition,you wouldn't a really big brain moment. I think emanators are specifically chosen depending on how much their will aligned with the aeon
As far as we know, the aeons gaze is only when youve done something that allows you to access part of their path or in general if youve done something that interests them and given their steadfast obsession with their own paths it means you likely acted in a way that exemplifies that path that the aeons go "huh whats this fella doing here". My own headcanon (lol) makes me think that the more you represent that path the more they might favour you and look upon you longer and then decide "maybe ill give them some of my power, see what else they can do in the name of [enter name here] path" 😂
Honestly, I wonder what difference there is between the Omen Vanguards & Creed Exequy are? The former has only been mentioned in IPC broadcasts on the express.
Creed exequy members are interested in terminus themselves while the omen vanguards are more interested in whatever terminus is mumbling. Creed think of terminus as a god, omen think of them as a source for prophecy and the future. I picture the creed as more fanatical while the omen are pragmatists
So if Terminus is from the end of the universe and possibly marks its renewal, would that mean it may experience the rebirth of the universe in reverse and be from the future universe after the one we're in?
I like to think that just like Factions within - Aoens themselfs begin to exist(ascend) and come in Pairs (also due to "Universal Samsara" as i call it), there is always another side of the road, the parallel in the cycle, another choice, which also partly represented in HooH The Eqilibrium. I started to think that Terminus is somehow connected to it due to the said new beginnings in the Universe. And there is defenetly will be Finality Pathtriders of The Creed or overall who would want to End the Universe Cycle (Samsara), and by extention more Aoens and Paths which practically "Bind" Aoens to the sctirct following of some conceptual aspect even when it brings immense danger to all of existense in the Universe.
@@heppelhopv2 I was thinking about it for a while even before she done a vid just by nature of how the Planet's stories with overarching lore where written so far. Tho its cool to have it summarized.
Im not entirely sure about pairs (not saying its not possible just never thought about it) though I do think its a cycle, theres certainly some evidence that might point to that plus we know some of the aeons like Fuli has somewhat even confirmed it
Tho really the idea of beginning and end does look likes finality even CoF is also depicted as that so you know with the restart system or more like existing outside of it like terminus could do. And also if it was truly the end of everything then why he doesn’t overlap with nanook and absorb him ? Like I know that what elegi is but small but not that non sense at all. The question she ask herself is indeed true like why is he whispering in the past if terminus is the end of everything ( + it seems again to overlap with nanook ).
I think that was another video where I talked about how finality might mean something else, I used elegy in the thumbnail so maybe thats why it looked similar 😆
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They added them in data bank! I was shocked since no one mentioned them in the newest quest
Yeah, I noticed that but I edited this video quite a while a go so I couldnt include some of those additional details 😂
I think the terminus murmuring the prophecy in the loading game about information about terminus is that the trail blazer will defeat nanook
Terminus was always there ever since the beginning of the game watching us
@@Josh-qt5zi yes exactly I think the prophecy is us defeating nannok
@user-sz1li6ld2p also since this game is so predictable to the point that they basically spoil it themselves, I say that the Ipc actually follows Voracity and the aeon Oroboros expect for Diamond which is why Eilo is against the Ipc in the first place for the most part he is likey natural towards Diamond since he the only Ipc that dose follow preservation likey an temporary alliance until all the other Ipc head life's are crushed especially Oswaldo Schneider
@@Josh-qt5zi facts also I think their are bosses we will fight before nanook like bosses like oroboros it's kinda like how aventurine of stratagem boss is a semi boss in the penacony story quest and sunday is the main boss I think this will be the case oroboros the semi boss and nannok the final boss I also for some reason think the reason why the stellaron hunters are getting stellarons is to merge it with trailblazer to make him an aeon
@@Josh-qt5ziipc follows Qlipoth,Oswald is one of the most devoted Qlipoth followers
I find elergy really interesting, especially since she has March’s symbol on her chest and we can’t see her face
Im wondering whether elegy is even alive, they seem like a giant puppet which makes me wonder who is pulling her strings 🤔
always a good day when maevix uploads
Always on saturdays and sundays.. and sometimes mondays, or whenever i feel like i have a good idea 😂
0:07 tbh, I doubt we’ve hit the half way point:
HSR doesn’t (from my own knowledge.) have a cutoff point like Genshin, since its story is like Honkai impact 3rd’s, where it will keep going till we reach a conclusion. (Untill we do the thing the MC was made for, like Kiana becoming the COOF, which technically ended part1, but even then HI3 is still going :/)
If HSR will or ever ends, will be when the devs explain just about everything, and or we make it to akiveli’s home world. (Which even then, I don’t think will happen for awhile.)
With how many detours, how many stops, and characters we’ve seen and met, I don’t think we’re going to be done for awhile. (Besides herta’s space station, penacony and Belobog were destinations meant on the original Expedition, *the Loufu was not.*
And so far, we’ve gone back twice and are supposed to go to a new planet after the 2nd Loufu arc, instead of our original destination.
From what it looks like, it’s every other planet that we get launched off course, and if that keeps up, will be a lot more than genshin ☠️.
Assuming Pom Pom’s concerns are accurate, and the express is actually running out of fuel, (if we keep going at the rate we’re at, we’re probably going to see 14 planets, and visit 25, since we’re going to keep making pit stops.)then it could be even longer before we ever make it to asdana. )
Tbh, I doubt tbh is journey is anywhere but over, and even if we assume HsR has an already defined timeline like Zzz and GI, then that’s even worst, since we’ve not even gotten a year into HSR, and GI is probably going to go for another year or two ☠️ (Genshin started at around 2020, meaning it’s been around 4-5 years, and they’ve gone through 5 patch, if we assume all hoyo games will typically last, or get to that patch point, then that’s literally 5-6 years of story, which HSR is barely even a year old ☠️)
Yeah, imma be honest, I doubt we’re half way, maybe a third of less, but I have a hunch we have a bit longer to go. (Unless something bad happens, like HSR getting canceled, but that’s for the future to hold.)
The fuel problem is dealt with in 3.0
@@FD-wl7xq 100%, but like, that’s jus next version :/ (that’s literally a reason why we’re going off course .-.)
Like, where going to 14 planets at this rate ☠️
Ah its just a turn of phrase, I dont think were near the middle either and its pretty hard to guess given theres no clear number of planets or milestones. My only guess would be before the end we would learn or have interacted with most of the aeons and the major paths so if that turns out to be the case weve only really done 3 out of 18 total aeons
Oh, no. Both HI3 and HSR have very same "cut off point" just as Genshin.
Genshin: 7 Nation/Elements.
1.0 Travail Teaser shows the whole roadmap. After we acquire all the 7 Elements we enter the Endgame with Khaenriah/Sea of Flowers at the End.
HI3: 14 Herrschers.
Each arc centered around a Herrscher and once we were done with that, we entered the endgame with Herrscher of Finality.
HSR: 7 Paths.
Just like Black Swan's Myriad Celestia showed, we will acquire 7 Paths and after that we enter the endgame which is presumably fighting Nanook. It's very likely we get a few more playable paths (Remembrance Aeon was shown in the roadmap after all), but that's about it.
Someone speculate that Luocha maybe related to faction creed exquy because he use coffin and his character story mention "People would clamber to high places in groups just so they could witness their city's demise.
If everything were to end, then there shall be at least one witness." I wonder if this true
6:05 I personally think it will be both. Cus everything exist and have an End (and the new beginning) at the same time, Aoens included.
Assuming the main story ends when TB gets all 7 playable Paths, we're like 33% through.
And its only Part 1 yea.
Yeh, half is just a turn of phrase i dont think were anywhere near the middle 😁
Thats why Elio and Stellaron Hunters (especially confirmed for Finality Firefly) are so interesting.
The Stellaron hunter are basically the hsr Hexenzirkel but are present in the story already
I going to predict that Eilo was an member of the omen vanguard before forming the Sh and also happen to be March 7th brother
I have this really weird idea that at some point the stellaron hunters will leave elio for the trailblazer given how attached they are to them already. Which them makes me think that maybe the TB is actually elio but... naahhh 😂
@@Maevix3142if that happened ngl one of the best plot twist 😂
@@Maevix3142 This is some "TB from the previous Samsara" stuff... lol
But seriously like the commentator before i think Elio is somehow connected to Match 7th past=true self obv.
Doomday bringers cult vibes
I bet their home planet is a giant doomsday prepper bunker with cans of preserved tomatoes 😂
@@Maevix3142 or Earth?
5:16 idk if you notice this but everytime we warpjump we actually see glimpses of the future events in the tb mission
5:29 wait this isnt a warpjump, but this scene is from belobog altho we are still in herta space station that time and belobog wasnt even released
It confirmed that Termius is watching us the whole time and there is the fate atla for retelling the game story
@@Josh-qt5zi And thus Remembrance cracks when we enter Battles is related with the Universe Memory of Fuli and Terminus Prophesy (which was one of the first indications before Fate Atlas and other content was added) yep
I actually kinda made a nonsense theory about how the universe is in a loop and its tied to the screen cracking thing and why we can see future glimpses 😂
Little bit of detail you missed. In memmory bubble they actively attempt to summon terminus to present day. This implied that they attempt to hasten the coming of finality.
I dont remember the details of the memory bubble but from what I can remember it seemed more like a ceremony purposefully created to either welcome the aeons presence or as you mentioned summon them which then im wondering how did they even accomplish that
@@Maevix3142 the bubble specifically use the word "summon" I will quote some of the bubble.
'It is apparent to you what they are doing. they are summoning THEM, the noble being who travels against time... "
As for how, it mentions weaving threads and withering leaf of the world tree possibily referring to connecting a path to destroyed world on imaginary tree. Keep in mind in HSR world, imaginary tree theory proposed by genius society no 1 Zander Kuabara is currently rejected so it is natural they use other name like "world tree". Here is the part of the bubble that I quote:
"Through a spiritual ritual, they weave the threads of time in an attempt to trace backwards from the last withered leaf on the World Tree to the first bud in the beginning of everything."
This is just my current theory; that Aeon of finality most likely a herscher of finality and this tied HSR back to its honkai element that is still absent until now.
What does getting the gaze of an aeon even mean it has to be more than just getting an eon to look at you otherwise the trailblazer would’ve already caught the gaze of aha because you can hear them laughing during the phantylia Boss fight could it have something to do with connecting deeper with a path and the normal pathstrider but not to the point of becoming an emanator
I think it's just a blessing obtaining system from the aeon when the MC shows a strong emotion towards a path. Aha was just there for the laughs while we fought phantylia, he did not had to necessarily gaze at the MC.
@@ultra5803 iirc gaining a gaze gives you a power boost depending on that specific path.Like if U drew the gaze of erudition,you wouldn't a really big brain moment. I think emanators are specifically chosen depending on how much their will aligned with the aeon
As far as we know, the aeons gaze is only when youve done something that allows you to access part of their path or in general if youve done something that interests them and given their steadfast obsession with their own paths it means you likely acted in a way that exemplifies that path that the aeons go "huh whats this fella doing here". My own headcanon (lol) makes me think that the more you represent that path the more they might favour you and look upon you longer and then decide "maybe ill give them some of my power, see what else they can do in the name of [enter name here] path" 😂
Huh? Wdym Aha laughs??
@@LeaksHater during the phantylia boss fight, you can hear aha laughing for some time in the battle
Honestly, I wonder what difference there is between the Omen Vanguards & Creed Exequy are? The former has only been mentioned in IPC broadcasts on the express.
Creed exequy members are interested in terminus themselves while the omen vanguards are more interested in whatever terminus is mumbling. Creed think of terminus as a god, omen think of them as a source for prophecy and the future. I picture the creed as more fanatical while the omen are pragmatists
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History Fictionoligists in action 😅
There is one now though! So maybe I misremembered.. the FUTURE 😮
So if Terminus is from the end of the universe and possibly marks its renewal, would that mean it may experience the rebirth of the universe in reverse and be from the future universe after the one we're in?
Weren't the stellaron hunters also following the Finality?
yeah they follow the Finality too, Jade basically confirmed it
I like to think that just like Factions within - Aoens themselfs begin to exist(ascend) and come in Pairs (also due to "Universal Samsara" as i call it), there is always another side of the road, the parallel in the cycle, another choice, which also partly represented in HooH The Eqilibrium.
I started to think that Terminus is somehow connected to it due to the said new beginnings in the Universe.
And there is defenetly will be Finality Pathtriders of The Creed or overall who would want to End the Universe Cycle (Samsara), and by extention more Aoens and Paths which practically "Bind" Aoens to the sctirct following of some conceptual aspect even when it brings immense danger to all of existense in the Universe.
Lemme guess,ashikai?
@@heppelhopv2 I was thinking about it for a while even before she done a vid just by nature of how the Planet's stories with overarching lore where written so far.
Tho its cool to have it summarized.
Im not entirely sure about pairs (not saying its not possible just never thought about it) though I do think its a cycle, theres certainly some evidence that might point to that plus we know some of the aeons like Fuli has somewhat even confirmed it
@@Maevix3142 Yep, i just think they combined the ideas somewhat and expand on 'Universal Samsara' even more going forward, its interesting.
Tho really the idea of beginning and end does look likes finality even CoF is also depicted as that so you know with the restart system or more like existing outside of it like terminus could do.
And also if it was truly the end of everything then why he doesn’t overlap with nanook and absorb him ?
Like I know that what elegi is but small but not that non sense at all.
The question she ask herself is indeed true like why is he whispering in the past if terminus is the end of everything ( + it seems again to overlap with nanook ).
Do we know how many planets the star rail story is supposed to span? Like gensjins 7 regions?
I dont think its ever been mentioned but me personally I count the number of aeons we will meet rather than planets 😁
Did something happen to the original upload? I swear ive seen this a week ago or something
I think that was another video where I talked about how finality might mean something else, I used elegy in the thumbnail so maybe thats why it looked similar 😆
you keep saying terminus.. isn't terminus the aeon of enigmata and the finality is another separate aeon and path..am i missing something
Yes, mythos is the Aeon of finality
I checked It on the enigmata wiki
Seem like we have another victim of the Enigmata
@@guilhermemessias2914My friend you have it all wrong mythus is literally the collective conscious the represents pure truth
Erudition followers are seething right now..I'm the Erudition follower
I see mythus got to you huh.. but in case this is a genuine question, terminus is the aeon of finality while mythus is the aeon of enigmata