The USWE Vertical 10 you reviewed does look a bit floppy and not well organized for MTB adventures. I use the USWE Airborne 9 and love it! I have it snugged pretty tight and find there is very little movement no matter the size of the hit. It has a 3L bladder which was a requirement for me. With the Airborne 9, the bladder has it's own pocket inside the main compartment and there is a second mesh divider where I split my tube and pump or. There is a stash pocket near the top that I keep my keys and wallet in. The outer pouch has a mesh divider sewn vertically down the middle to create 2 sections as well as some elastic sewn in that I keep tire levers and zip ties in. The outer pouch pinch clips also gives me a tidy way to secure the chin bar for my convertible helmet. All-in-all, I love the USWE, but I can see how the one you purchased may not live up to those expectations.
My brother bought a 70L Osprey backpack from the REI used sale and after 3 years of traveling a strap began to come apart. They sent him a brand new one after they saw that it was unrepairable no questions asked. Their warranty and customer service is next level.
I've been loving the Osprey Savu hip pack for several years. Excellent product. One bottle on the frame, 2 on the hip pack, and I can hit 95% of my rides no prob.
I have a Camelback Blowfish I have owned for almost 25yrs, the bladder of course has been replaced (Platypus Bladder). I love the fact that it expands with just unzipping the middle for those long rides to carry quite a bit more. Two things you should add to your pack: 1. A small Leatherman, the needle nose portion comes in handy, plus the knife blade works to trim off tire plugs. 2. For that unexpected nature call, a rolled up portion of TP, because you just never know.
dude this is the best product video ever, like im actually totally fine with hearing about products i respectfully don't care about just to see my boy jeff ride!
We're running two camelback 1.5L hip-packs for our typical hydration. I absolutely hate the closure (the seal cross gets out of place and leaks or it loves to cross thread). For longer rides I love my Klim 3L, but it's pretty hefty. I'm glad that some other manufactures have adopted the Hydrapack designs. They're really nice to use and don't leak in my experience.
I have a Raptor 14 and cinch it down when I'm carrying less stuff on a shorter ride. I've had it for 7 years and it is reliable, comfortable, has hip pockets and is well built. I may get a Raptor 10 in the near future just have a grab and go lighter pack.
I’ve been running the USWE Airborne 3 and 9 the past six months. Love the simplicity of them and single buckle. They do dance, contrary to the advertising, but they dance less than some of my Ospreys. IMO, you can’t go wrong with either brand.
For short rides I use an Osprey Seral 1.5L hip pack. It's "OK" but tends to slide down off my lumbar area to my scarum as the waist strap loosens. My preferred pack is my trusty 5 year-old Camelbak Skyline 10LR. As you pointed out- the camelbak reservoir isn't amazing and I'm on my 3rd one, which sucks because the 3L "antidote" bladder isn't made anymore, and the new 'Crux' bladder isn't as good of a fit in the pocket. Otherwise, I've been really happy- it's never let me down even smashing my way down HiLine, National, Geronimo and Captain Ahab.
Right on DC, if you look close in my videos from the last couple years you'll see that I often use an older Skyline as well. I'm looking forward to getting a more modern Osprey pack soon, but I'm taking a break from hip packs for now.
Personally, I usually run a bottle in the frame and some repair essentials strapped to the frame. But for long rides I use the Osprey Raptor 14. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the new Hydroflask hydration packs!
I bought a Camelbak Blowfish in 1998 that I still use as my "big" pack. But it was my only pack for 20 (!!!) years, and never once did it let me down or rip and tear. I swapped out the bladders to Platapus many years ago. I now have a smaller DaKine that I like a lot, but the original Blowfish is still going strong for short hikes and long rides. Pretty Amazing.
I've had my Mule for a few years an love it. It carries all my goods to include a small tire repair kit that I've added in addition to a tube for those long, rocky DH runs.I've replaced the bladder in it twice, once from a nasty crash that required a new Kali helmet as well. Thanks for the great review!
When I use a hydration pack, I use an Osprey Talon 22. It's not too big but it has enough pockets to keep everything organized and the waist pockets are easy to access. The back panel provides plenty of protection, the shoulder straps have adjustable height, and my favorite feature is that the bladder loads to an external pocket keeping the bag nice and dry.
I love my Camelbaks!! My family each has one. Love the way they look and feel. Also get along just fine with their bladders. Ours are 2 and 6 months old.
I’ve been running the Camelbak KUDU 20L for quite some time. I wear it on basically every ride. From the short 5 mile rip to a long backcountry day with 5k vert. I LOVE the hip pockets. Usually stash a tool there or I stash trail trash in there and dump it when I get back. I also really love the peace of mind from having the back protector and I rarely notice the heat because it’s so well vented. I highly recommend this pack for all the pockets and organization, and when you cinch everything down it’s actually very sleek and hardly noticeable.
Bought the cheapest, smallest hydration pack from MEC over 20 years ago and it's great! Carries a 2L hydration bladder (which I've replaced a few times now), pump, tools, tube, wallet and keys and a light jacket. Stays put 'cause there's not much to it. Hot Tip -I keep the pack in my beer fridge when not riding so water I didn't finish doesn't get too funky and is cold for the next ride.
Had a camelback Mule with 3l bladder 25 years now using it on my Moto predominately but it’s been getting a flogging on my MTB for the last 8 months and works perfectly with just enough space for all the essentials ! I have replaced the bladder twice with a similar one to Hydrapack which is way better than the camelback set up ! Love your videos Jeff , keep ‘em coming mate 👍
I've had my pack for about 4yrs, used mostly for hiking until I got my new full sus, it has such a small location for a water bottle it makes it tuff to get in & out of the cage, I've started using the pack with this bike.
Mostly use a pack when night riding since I like my light mounted to my helmet.I loved the early Ergon packs with the pivoting shoulder strap system, but they never caught on. Could forget I was wearing it most of the time. Now I'm using a Kriega R15 that I got for Moto. It is small, but holds a 3L bladder easily, as well as a small assortment of gear. Similar closure to the USWE. I don't 'love' it, but it works well enough. Love seeing local trails in your videos, Jeff! Bham FTW!!! (and travel for even more winning!)
Hi Jeff, great video, whilst I'm looking for a new pack, and bought the airborne 15, I mostly enjoyed the riding footage. You got a really fun style that was enjoyable to watch.
I only run hydration packs. Every ride, from trail to bikepark. I have all my tools, water, and my back protector in my Evoc. I like it, it actually feels weird to ride without it.
I use an Evoc Neo 16L I like the phone compartment, tool compartment, I like the included external back protector which cools down the back by allowing airflow. I use Hyddrapak 3L bladder, I've used the Hyddrapak bladders for years, I had a 2L before, but I needed the 3L for long rides. I love how easy Hydrapak is to use compared to the bladders with a lid, less likely to make a mess with Hydrapak.
I'm glad you put this out. I use a cheap pack I got at target for $29. I've had it for 3 summers now and I wear it on every ride. It's 2.5litre. and it holes all I bring well. Nice zippered pocket on top to keep keys and other things I don't want to fly out. Based on price comparison, I see no reason to switch. Maybe incorporate some of these lesser priced models into the next video! Keep ripping bro
Still using my first Camelbak which is now 20 years old. Not using the original bladder. Replacement bladder leaks though. Will check out some of these and others in the comments.
Right on Jason. I do like the USWE design but it's not the best for hot weather- but that's when I ultimately do use a pack the most. The Osprey pack was great, but I need to try some other models, this little one was a tad bouncy for my usual stuff, and it's small. The Camelbak stuff is usually pretty good, but the last two generations have really fallen behind.
I bought my current camelback mule in 2013 and it’s just now starting to tear from exposure and I’m about to order another mule. This pack has 9500 miles of mostly dirt including 2 hard crashes with one ending in a helicopter hoist. Cant say enough about that extra bit of spinal protection and padding in a hard crash. I wear a lumbar pack when I do ski patrol/bike patrol but kinda nervous about about landing on my back in a crash with a lumbar pack applying all the impact to the lower back but personally I haven’t heard anyone ever complain in a real life crash about that.
Have you considered testing running vests too? 2x0.5ltr fluids plus some pockets for the tube, phone and multitool. Some of then can even carry extra bladder, like backbag. I was quite surprised you are not carrying first aid kit 😨
I use an Evoc Neo 16L I like the phone compartment, tool compartment, I use Hyddrapak 3L bladder, I've used the Hyddrapak bladders for years, I had a 2L before, but I needed the 3L for long rides. I love how easy Hydrapak is to use compared to the bladders with a lid, less likely to make a mess with Hydrapak.
I generally ride suuuuper light. Water bottle, phone, multi-tool. Done. When I shoot photos i have to bring a lot more, camera, lights, stands, etc. I believe this extra weight on my back sent me to the ER. I went OTB on the way from one feature to another and ended up needeing 10 stitches in my leg. The extra weight of a backpack messes with how I ride. I'm not done wearing backpacks. Just zero shenanigans when I'm wearing one.
I like the Camelbak Chase Vest. Super minimal, and at 50oz/1.5lt not really bigger bladder than their larger hip packs, but doesn't flop/fits great and fits the essentials. Breathes ok @ back, but you notice it in SoCal scorching days. Filling it up is a process, but never had issues. My nipple was flawless for almost 2 years. My lil son's different model Camelbak hydration pack drips easily as you describe, so YMMV
I wanted to love my USWE Airborne 15 pack. It’s just way too tight around my chest. If I loosen it, then it dances around. So I have to keep the straps on the tighter setting and it restricts my breathing. Now I’m wearing the Evoc 3l hip pack and really love it. Hip packs are where it’s at.
I ran a Mule for years. The original too. Then I switched to an Osprey. I like the Osprey better, mostly for the magnet and bite valve in the bladder. It has stood up to abuse for nearly 10 years though. Sadly it bounces a lot. But I deal with it because I need the 100oz bladder.
17 year old Camlpak Chaos. Changed the bladder a few times but still working just fine and doesn't move around too much. Started riding with a hip pack recently and a bottle on the bike, makes it a lot cooler in summer but means I can't go to far away from running water if I need a refill. Don't carry a pump in the hip pack which only holds my phone, 1 key and a couple of energy gels (it's for running, not riding) and I have the same fear of damaging my spine if I end up on my back.
I use a Dakine Drafter 14L, love the thing. Still need to buy the optional back protector for it but have taken a few crashes with it on to the back and its holding up and feels great.
Might be an older video but, I use a MountainWarehouse backpack that has room for a bladder but didnt come with one and I dont use one anyways I use bottles and or sealed energy drink cans. The MW Pace backpack seems to hold everything great for me and the waist and chest clips really keep the backpack firm on me despite my hauling various tools and waterbottles in it to rattle around. Only downside was the loop for hanging or carrying the backpack was getting caught on the dial for my fox speedframe helmet, stupidest thing ever really, so I tucked the loop into the hydration tube hole which is conveniently right under the loop, not sure what I'd do if I was actually using the hydration hole for a tube but that hanger loop is not cool, felt like it was gunna break my neck a couple times until I took the pack off and dealt with it, guess I could tape it down too.
I have been using the USWE Protector 15l for a bit over a year now and really like it. I am in a much more forward leaning position on my current bike and have only had the pack slide up on me once that I can remember. When I am on the hardtail and more upright I can't say I have ever felt a shift. Of course I am not as aggressive a rider as you are. Overall this was a good comparison and I really do agree with your opinion of the Camelback vs the Hydrapack bladder system, just can't beat that slide-lock closure IMO.
I've been using my 2016 CamelBak Mule for 8 years and it's finally time to upgrade. I went to look at the new Mule Pro in the shops yesterday and wow, I was disappointed. It's a downgrade in just about every way. Quality of materials, space, logical design (the flimsy little strap that is supposed to hold the bladder in place WTF?), even the magnetic connector for the mouthpiece is weird. Why does it go across the chest? Mine goes down one strap so after you have finished drinking you just drop the mouthpiece and it automatically clips back into place. This new design means that you have to manually reattach it once you have finished drinking. WTH? And that concave back panel means that there stuff all space inside the backpack. And those shoulder straps? Made of mesh? WTH? They won't last long. How disappointing.
I don't ride any "epics" but I use an Evoc (with the same typ of bladder as most or all of the packs in the vid) when it's hot and I'm going to be out more than 2h. Also, Jeff have some serious skills on the bike and the average rider won't notice or care about how much pack moves during big hits. My big hits are like his small ones.
For my after work rides I dont use a pack but for most longer rides I use a Osprey Talon 6 or the real long rides I have a 20 year old Camelbak HAWG that somehow is still holding up.
For short rides I run a bottle in the frame and repair kit strapped to the frame. But for long rides I use the Osprey Raptor 14. I used to have a camel back mule. That sucked compared to the Osprey.
lol now thinking about it my hydration pac is like 13 years old. its so big i now only use it if im going for a 6+ hour ride when i will probably need a rain jacket and lots of snacks... and my hammock for the mid day lunch brake!
I try a lot of cheap hydra packs 😓 and I finally find a good compromise in a trekking bags (a 30 l one) they are a pain in the ass to clip and unclip from your back but once they are set they don't move and it's the good point for me. Just a annoying point they are tall so they can some time being catch by some little trees 😅
I had a fairly cheap hydration pack that served me well for many years, but I decided I wanted something with a bit more room so I got an USWE Lizard. The build quality was nice, but it actually barely fit me (it was too big for me, which is weird considering I'm 5' 10"), and it made me sweat like crazy due to the bungee design that keeps everything so snug to your body. I decided to try another pack in the form of a Platypus Tokul XC 12.0, which I got last year in April. Overall I like it, though it does bounce around a bit more than ideal when getting air, and the magnetized hose is a little cumbersome. But it's got plenty of storage space (enough to hold a 5.0 Ah Ego battery for trail maintenance), the hydration reservoir is great quality, and it keeps me relatively cool with it's suspended mesh back.
I purchased two different versions of the MULE in as many years, I had an Ultra runner pack from them, a 22L hiking pack, and my 2013 Lobo still functions with the original bladder. I never put anything but water, ice, or unflavored electrolyte water, (like smartwater or alkalized waters,) in them. I've been using Camelbak since 1998. Went through half a dozen in the military, (But we would put the nastiest stuff in the bladders, so they wore out quick.) Working the flightline in Yuma or aboard a carrier, you can easily go through 5-8 refills of the bladder in a shift. I have tried other brands, and never have good luck with them. These newer Crux bladders are a pain in the butt compared to the Antidote, though. Maybe I will try an Evoc or an Osprey again. I just started fishing this year, so I am going over my various packs to see which works best for hydration + tackle. (That ultrarunner Camelback has some sweet trekking pole clips that might be nice for holding a telescopic rod.)
Thanks Steven. I prefer a pump because it allows me to add just a few PSI should I burp a tire, or if something has a slow leak. It also feels a lot better to not be using a disposable cartridge just to inflate a tire. The pump only takes a couple minutes to inflate a tire and is about the same size as two co2 cartridges and an inflater, and is quite likely a lighter solution.
Nice little review video! Would like to heard from you about the Evoc Stage 12, I'v red quite a lot of good things about this bag (even thought it doesn't come with a bladder)!
I’m currently running a camelbak that’s almost 2 years old. It works decent enough, but I seem to remember Shimano used to make packs with a unique strap design. Given they’re a sponsor maybe you could get your hands on one and see how it compares?
When Jeff talks about packs bouncing around I can't help but look at riding style then consider my riding and thinking to myself "That might not be a problem for me." 😂
I just looked at pnw via your link and it looks like they've changed their "Range" handlebars... I was wanting to buy a 12 degree backsweep bar which just a few weeks ago I thought the range bars were. Now they're 10 degrees. That's still better than the 7 back and 0 up I use that hurts cuz the base of my thumb takes all the weight and impact. In a week or so I'll buy them via your link. Unless you have another suggestion for an 11-12 back 5-6 up and a 30mm rise that your affiliated with...
Hi Jeff - great video, thanks. Have you ever tested a back protector with (limited) backpack functionality? I‘m thinking about e.g. Ergon BP1 or POC SPINE VPD AIR BACKPACK VEST.
Surprised to see you had issues with the osprey bouncing around so much. I have the Syncro 5 and 12, although I typically don't use the hydration pack unless it's a long day. Most my rides are 2hrs or less, so the water bottle is good enough most the time, Figured if anything the water would push it down more than have it bounce up. I'm also no where near as aggressive or playful of a rider as you jumping around every chance you get.
Bought an Osprey Raptor for longer rides…end up using my Lab Austure hip pack and fidlock bottle instead. Pump fits parallel to spine in same bottle pocket. Just wish the hip pack was higher quality. Kinda falling apart after a year. Osprey is now only used for moto rides
The Osprey Savu hip pack is a great alternative to the Lab Austere. I've had mine for several years. Only thing is I can't confirm whether a pump will fit vertically.
Sweet vid Jeffe i hate riding with a pack i go and stash water all over the bush wear i ride so i can just ride with one bidon , if i have to wear a pack i have a camel bak skyline 10 lr first model lr i think its the best ive used was thinking about the uswe mainly because the waist belt on the camelbak is kinda annoying how was the lighter uswe with just soft items in it did it hit your head ?
when i started i went backpack , then after that i strapped as much as i could in the bike , then i got a bumbag cuz i much prefer a cleaner looking bike , its 2024 and im back on a backpack :D
got the uswe sold not long ago. that no dancing monkey doenst work with a gopro chesty. and i didnt like the bladder, didnt "click"well. after much research i have bought the evoc enduroFR yes very expensive but worth the money. (comes without bladder :( )
I really hate extra weight that high up. a necessary evil if you have a long ride ahead. A lot more body english to maintain a vertical trajectory. BUT . . . there's got to be a better way. I would think that a vest would be a better overall use of weight distribution, although probably harder to manufacture a bladder, and harder to clean? But I'd go for that over a centralized load of crap on the middle of my back. I don't like packing on hikes either, have to carry stuff in and out, so a necessity, but not ideal. Especially when it moves around and makes you perspire like you're in a sauna.
I got a hip-pack 1 year ago since I'm pretty new to mtbing. I generally ride without a pack, all the essentials are strapped to my bike and the pack is just for water and snacks if I need them.
I do that on some older packs that I use for commuting, but most of the time if I'm going to need a pack it's because I'm spending 3-6 hours on the trail and need either the extra water or space to carry my water filter.
Yep i hardly ever use the bladder in my camelbak skyline 10lr its a great pack i regularly use a water bladder from the super market with just enough water for how ever long i' m planning on being out plus a bit i work on 600ml per hour in cool weather and run a bottle on my bike just stop and fill bottle up every hour then i drink every 15 mins works well .
For a quick local ride, I'll use the pack without the bladder, and just use a single water bottle. Having the pack is nice because tools, tube, pump are in there already, and there's room for keys, wallet, etc. (I don't like full pockets.) Feels pretty svelte without the bladder, too!
Ten plus year old camelback.. want to upgrade but it works so well and cares all the stuff I need and doesn’t bother me riding. Don’t fix what isn’t broke? Maybe if it does…
@@JeffKendallWeed www.platy.com/platypus-archive/duthie-am/duthie-am.html They did make these. Its like a better osprey syncro. The magnet actually held the drinking tube and it had great hip pockets. The bladder was easy to fill and get back in the pack too. Looks like they might be discontinued now. Its my favorite after trying the syncro and the raptor.
Ive owned a USWE for about a year and a half now and never ever wear it. Just never got along with it and isn't as comfortable as a traditional backpack style. That being said ill carry a hip pack 99% of the time.
The USWE Vertical 10 you reviewed does look a bit floppy and not well organized for MTB adventures.
I use the USWE Airborne 9 and love it! I have it snugged pretty tight and find there is very little movement no matter the size of the hit. It has a 3L bladder which was a requirement for me. With the Airborne 9, the bladder has it's own pocket inside the main compartment and there is a second mesh divider where I split my tube and pump or. There is a stash pocket near the top that I keep my keys and wallet in. The outer pouch has a mesh divider sewn vertically down the middle to create 2 sections as well as some elastic sewn in that I keep tire levers and zip ties in. The outer pouch pinch clips also gives me a tidy way to secure the chin bar for my convertible helmet. All-in-all, I love the USWE, but I can see how the one you purchased may not live up to those expectations.
Also, the accessory GoPro chest mount is really nice and feels like a chest protector as well.
I got USWE airborne,it’s a sick pack 💎🔥👑
I like backpacks extra padding when I crash
Hip pack fan here. However, I love my Osprey products, what a great company!
Right on Nick!
My brother bought a 70L Osprey backpack from the REI used sale and after 3 years of traveling a strap began to come apart. They sent him a brand new one after they saw that it was unrepairable no questions asked. Their warranty and customer service is next level.
I've been loving the Osprey Savu hip pack for several years. Excellent product. One bottle on the frame, 2 on the hip pack, and I can hit 95% of my rides no prob.
100% agree with you Jeff on the Hydrapack bladders. Much easier to clean , can turn fully inside out, and they never leak from the top
I have a Camelback Blowfish I have owned for almost 25yrs, the bladder of course has been replaced (Platypus Bladder). I love the fact that it expands with just unzipping the middle for those long rides to carry quite a bit more.
Two things you should add to your pack: 1. A small Leatherman, the needle nose portion comes in handy, plus the knife blade works to trim off tire plugs. 2. For that unexpected nature call, a rolled up portion of TP, because you just never know.
dude this is the best product video ever, like im actually totally fine with hearing about products i respectfully don't care about just to see my boy jeff ride!
We're running two camelback 1.5L hip-packs for our typical hydration. I absolutely hate the closure (the seal cross gets out of place and leaks or it loves to cross thread). For longer rides I love my Klim 3L, but it's pretty hefty. I'm glad that some other manufactures have adopted the Hydrapack designs. They're really nice to use and don't leak in my experience.
I have a Raptor 14 and cinch it down when I'm carrying less stuff on a shorter ride. I've had it for 7 years and it is reliable, comfortable, has hip pockets and is well built. I may get a Raptor 10 in the near future just have a grab and go lighter pack.
I’ve been running the USWE Airborne 3 and 9 the past six months. Love the simplicity of them and single buckle. They do dance, contrary to the advertising, but they dance less than some of my Ospreys. IMO, you can’t go wrong with either brand.
Yeah the USWE would be better for more aggressive riding, but the Osprey is better in hotter, humid environments!
For short rides I use an Osprey Seral 1.5L hip pack. It's "OK" but tends to slide down off my lumbar area to my scarum as the waist strap loosens. My preferred pack is my trusty 5 year-old Camelbak Skyline 10LR. As you pointed out- the camelbak reservoir isn't amazing and I'm on my 3rd one, which sucks because the 3L "antidote" bladder isn't made anymore, and the new 'Crux' bladder isn't as good of a fit in the pocket. Otherwise, I've been really happy- it's never let me down even smashing my way down HiLine, National, Geronimo and Captain Ahab.
Right on DC, if you look close in my videos from the last couple years you'll see that I often use an older Skyline as well. I'm looking forward to getting a more modern Osprey pack soon, but I'm taking a break from hip packs for now.
@@JeffKendallWeed I love the lower lying bladder of the Skyline. Especially the new ones. Such a good pack.
Personally, I usually run a bottle in the frame and some repair essentials strapped to the frame. But for long rides I use the Osprey Raptor 14. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the new Hydroflask hydration packs!
I also use the Raptor 14. Fantastic pack. I actually take it on all my rides just to be prepared for anything.
I bought a Camelbak Blowfish in 1998 that I still use as my "big" pack. But it was my only pack for 20 (!!!) years, and never once did it let me down or rip and tear. I swapped out the bladders to Platapus many years ago. I now have a smaller DaKine that I like a lot, but the original Blowfish is still going strong for short hikes and long rides. Pretty Amazing.
I've had my Mule for a few years an love it. It carries all my goods to include a small tire repair kit that I've added in addition to a tube for those long, rocky DH runs.I've replaced the bladder in it twice, once from a nasty crash that required a new Kali helmet as well. Thanks for the great review!
When I use a hydration pack, I use an Osprey Talon 22. It's not too big but it has enough pockets to keep everything organized and the waist pockets are easy to access. The back panel provides plenty of protection, the shoulder straps have adjustable height, and my favorite feature is that the bladder loads to an external pocket keeping the bag nice and dry.
I love my Camelbaks!! My family each has one. Love the way they look and feel. Also get along just fine with their bladders. Ours are 2 and 6 months old.
I’ve been running the Camelbak KUDU 20L for quite some time. I wear it on basically every ride. From the short 5 mile rip to a long backcountry day with 5k vert. I LOVE the hip pockets. Usually stash a tool there or I stash trail trash in there and dump it when I get back. I also really love the peace of mind from having the back protector and I rarely notice the heat because it’s so well vented. I highly recommend this pack for all the pockets and organization, and when you cinch everything down it’s actually very sleek and hardly noticeable.
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All I ever put in my hydration pack is water and maybe a cliff bar occasionally
Man I break way too many parts for such a simple kit!
Bought the cheapest, smallest hydration pack from MEC over 20 years ago and it's great!
Carries a 2L hydration bladder (which I've replaced a few times now), pump, tools, tube, wallet and keys and a light jacket. Stays put 'cause there's not much to it.
Hot Tip -I keep the pack in my beer fridge when not riding so water I didn't finish doesn't get too funky and is cold for the next ride.
3l hydrapak, phone, keys, wallet, etc, in the frame bag... tools in a downtube bag. I only bring a backpack if bringing a skydio 2 or bigger camera.
Had a camelback Mule with 3l bladder 25 years now using it on my Moto predominately but it’s been getting a flogging on my MTB for the last 8 months and works perfectly with just enough space for all the essentials ! I have replaced the bladder twice with a similar one to Hydrapack which is way better than the camelback set up !
Love your videos Jeff , keep ‘em coming mate 👍
I've had my pack for about 4yrs, used mostly for hiking until I got my new full sus, it has such a small location for a water bottle it makes it tuff to get in & out of the cage, I've started using the pack with this bike.
3-years old Evoc Stage 12L. Using it mostly for some protection on my back.
Mostly use a pack when night riding since I like my light mounted to my helmet.I loved the early Ergon packs with the pivoting shoulder strap system, but they never caught on. Could forget I was wearing it most of the time. Now I'm using a Kriega R15 that I got for Moto. It is small, but holds a 3L bladder easily, as well as a small assortment of gear. Similar closure to the USWE. I don't 'love' it, but it works well enough.
Love seeing local trails in your videos, Jeff! Bham FTW!!! (and travel for even more winning!)
Hi Jeff, great video, whilst I'm looking for a new pack, and bought the airborne 15, I mostly enjoyed the riding footage. You got a really fun style that was enjoyable to watch.
I only run hydration packs. Every ride, from trail to bikepark. I have all my tools, water, and my back protector in my Evoc. I like it, it actually feels weird to ride without it.
I use an Evoc Neo 16L I like the phone compartment, tool compartment, I like the included external back protector which cools down the back by allowing airflow.
I use Hyddrapak 3L bladder, I've used the Hyddrapak bladders for years, I had a 2L before, but I needed the 3L for long rides.
I love how easy Hydrapak is to use compared to the bladders with a lid, less likely to make a mess with Hydrapak.
I'm glad you put this out. I use a cheap pack I got at target for $29. I've had it for 3 summers now and I wear it on every ride. It's 2.5litre. and it holes all I bring well. Nice zippered pocket on top to keep keys and other things I don't want to fly out. Based on price comparison, I see no reason to switch. Maybe incorporate some of these lesser priced models into the next video! Keep ripping bro
Still using my first Camelbak which is now 20 years old. Not using the original bladder. Replacement bladder leaks though. Will check out some of these and others in the comments.
Right on Jason. I do like the USWE design but it's not the best for hot weather- but that's when I ultimately do use a pack the most. The Osprey pack was great, but I need to try some other models, this little one was a tad bouncy for my usual stuff, and it's small. The Camelbak stuff is usually pretty good, but the last two generations have really fallen behind.
I bought my current camelback mule in 2013 and it’s just now starting to tear from exposure and I’m about to order another mule. This pack has 9500 miles of mostly dirt including 2 hard crashes with one ending in a helicopter hoist. Cant say enough about that extra bit of spinal protection and padding in a hard crash. I wear a lumbar pack when I do ski patrol/bike patrol but kinda nervous about about landing on my back in a crash with a lumbar pack applying all the impact to the lower back but personally I haven’t heard anyone ever complain in a real life crash about that.
How's the new mule holding up
6 months old love the improvements
Have you considered testing running vests too? 2x0.5ltr fluids plus some pockets for the tube, phone and multitool. Some of then can even carry extra bladder, like backbag. I was quite surprised you are not carrying first aid kit 😨
I use an Evoc Neo 16L I like the phone compartment, tool compartment, I use Hyddrapak 3L bladder, I've used the Hyddrapak bladders for years, I had a 2L before, but I needed the 3L for long rides.
I love how easy Hydrapak is to use compared to the bladders with a lid, less likely to make a mess with Hydrapak.
I generally ride suuuuper light. Water bottle, phone, multi-tool. Done. When I shoot photos i have to bring a lot more, camera, lights, stands, etc. I believe this extra weight on my back sent me to the ER. I went OTB on the way from one feature to another and ended up needeing 10 stitches in my leg.
The extra weight of a backpack messes with how I ride. I'm not done wearing backpacks. Just zero shenanigans when I'm wearing one.
I like the Camelbak Chase Vest. Super minimal, and at 50oz/1.5lt not really bigger bladder than their larger hip packs, but doesn't flop/fits great and fits the essentials. Breathes ok @ back, but you notice it in SoCal scorching days.
Filling it up is a process, but never had issues. My nipple was flawless for almost 2 years. My lil son's different model Camelbak hydration pack drips easily as you describe, so YMMV
Right on Dimitrios! I have an old Chase vest and it works as ya say. But I rarely use it unless I'm in Arizona.
EVOC 1.5 Hydropack. That's the jam!
I wanted to love my USWE Airborne 15 pack. It’s just way too tight around my chest. If I loosen it, then it dances around. So I have to keep the straps on the tighter setting and it restricts my breathing. Now I’m wearing the Evoc 3l hip pack and really love it. Hip packs are where it’s at.
My current pack it a good 10+ years old. I'm probably going to get a new Osprey when I find a good sale. Cheers!
I ran a Mule for years. The original too. Then I switched to an Osprey. I like the Osprey better, mostly for the magnet and bite valve in the bladder. It has stood up to abuse for nearly 10 years though. Sadly it bounces a lot. But I deal with it because I need the 100oz bladder.
17 year old Camlpak Chaos. Changed the bladder a few times but still working just fine and doesn't move around too much. Started riding with a hip pack recently and a bottle on the bike, makes it a lot cooler in summer but means I can't go to far away from running water if I need a refill. Don't carry a pump in the hip pack which only holds my phone, 1 key and a couple of energy gels (it's for running, not riding) and I have the same fear of damaging my spine if I end up on my back.
Rob that old pack will be eligible To vote next year 😂
I use a water Buffalo, not much room carrying stuff but stays put really nicely
I've been using a Vaude Juicy Air 3. It's a great pack and yes, at least 10 years old.
I use a Dakine Drafter 14L, love the thing. Still need to buy the optional back protector for it but have taken a few crashes with it on to the back and its holding up and feels great.
Might be an older video but, I use a MountainWarehouse backpack that has room for a bladder but didnt come with one and I dont use one anyways I use bottles and or sealed energy drink cans. The MW Pace backpack seems to hold everything great for me and the waist and chest clips really keep the backpack firm on me despite my hauling various tools and waterbottles in it to rattle around. Only downside was the loop for hanging or carrying the backpack was getting caught on the dial for my fox speedframe helmet, stupidest thing ever really, so I tucked the loop into the hydration tube hole which is conveniently right under the loop, not sure what I'd do if I was actually using the hydration hole for a tube but that hanger loop is not cool, felt like it was gunna break my neck a couple times until I took the pack off and dealt with it, guess I could tape it down too.
I have been using the USWE Protector 15l for a bit over a year now and really like it. I am in a much more forward leaning position on my current bike and have only had the pack slide up on me once that I can remember. When I am on the hardtail and more upright I can't say I have ever felt a shift. Of course I am not as aggressive a rider as you are. Overall this was a good comparison and I really do agree with your opinion of the Camelback vs the Hydrapack bladder system, just can't beat that slide-lock closure IMO.
Would love to see you review the Hydroflask one. I dig my first generation one and the insulated bladder is super nice when it comes to hot days.
I've been using my 2016 CamelBak Mule for 8 years and it's finally time to upgrade. I went to look at the new Mule Pro in the shops yesterday and wow, I was disappointed. It's a downgrade in just about every way. Quality of materials, space, logical design (the flimsy little strap that is supposed to hold the bladder in place WTF?), even the magnetic connector for the mouthpiece is weird. Why does it go across the chest? Mine goes down one strap so after you have finished drinking you just drop the mouthpiece and it automatically clips back into place. This new design means that you have to manually reattach it once you have finished drinking. WTH? And that concave back panel means that there stuff all space inside the backpack. And those shoulder straps? Made of mesh? WTH? They won't last long. How disappointing.
I don't ride any "epics" but I use an Evoc (with the same typ of bladder as most or all of the packs in the vid) when it's hot and I'm going to be out more than 2h.
Also, Jeff have some serious skills on the bike and the average rider won't notice or care about how much pack moves during big hits. My big hits are like his small ones.
You should try an evoc pack. Some have back protection and they have a large blatter and good straps so the pack doesn't move.
For my after work rides I dont use a pack but for most longer rides I use a Osprey Talon 6 or the real long rides I have a 20 year old Camelbak HAWG that somehow is still holding up.
For short rides I run a bottle in the frame and repair kit strapped to the frame. But for long rides I use the Osprey Raptor 14. I used to have a camel back mule. That sucked compared to the Osprey.
lol now thinking about it my hydration pac is like 13 years old. its so big i now only use it if im going for a 6+ hour ride when i will probably need a rain jacket and lots of snacks... and my hammock for the mid day lunch brake!
I try a lot of cheap hydra packs 😓 and I finally find a good compromise in a trekking bags (a 30 l one) they are a pain in the ass to clip and unclip from your back but once they are set they don't move and it's the good point for me.
Just a annoying point they are tall so they can some time being catch by some little trees 😅
just bought another USWE.
I had a fairly cheap hydration pack that served me well for many years, but I decided I wanted something with a bit more room so I got an USWE Lizard. The build quality was nice, but it actually barely fit me (it was too big for me, which is weird considering I'm 5' 10"), and it made me sweat like crazy due to the bungee design that keeps everything so snug to your body. I decided to try another pack in the form of a Platypus Tokul XC 12.0, which I got last year in April. Overall I like it, though it does bounce around a bit more than ideal when getting air, and the magnetized hose is a little cumbersome. But it's got plenty of storage space (enough to hold a 5.0 Ah Ego battery for trail maintenance), the hydration reservoir is great quality, and it keeps me relatively cool with it's suspended mesh back.
Great feedback, thank you!
I purchased two different versions of the MULE in as many years, I had an Ultra runner pack from them, a 22L hiking pack, and my 2013 Lobo still functions with the original bladder. I never put anything but water, ice, or unflavored electrolyte water, (like smartwater or alkalized waters,) in them.
I've been using Camelbak since 1998. Went through half a dozen in the military, (But we would put the nastiest stuff in the bladders, so they wore out quick.) Working the flightline in Yuma or aboard a carrier, you can easily go through 5-8 refills of the bladder in a shift. I have tried other brands, and never have good luck with them. These newer Crux bladders are a pain in the butt compared to the Antidote, though. Maybe I will try an Evoc or an Osprey again.
I just started fishing this year, so I am going over my various packs to see which works best for hydration + tackle. (That ultrarunner Camelback has some sweet trekking pole clips that might be nice for holding a telescopic rod.)
Right on Eric- riding to a cool fishing spot is a great idea! The USWE doesn't have much in the way of cargo straps. Good luck with them fishies!
Jeff. Thanks for the great review. I’m curious why you carry pump instead of a rapid inflator and cartridges?
Thanks Steven. I prefer a pump because it allows me to add just a few PSI should I burp a tire, or if something has a slow leak. It also feels a lot better to not be using a disposable cartridge just to inflate a tire. The pump only takes a couple minutes to inflate a tire and is about the same size as two co2 cartridges and an inflater, and is quite likely a lighter solution.
@@JeffKendallWeed great call on avoiding the disposable!
1 year old Camelbak Mule for long rides, and Bontrager's Rapid Pack for shorts rides where I can get away with one bottle.
Nice little review video! Would like to heard from you about the Evoc Stage 12, I'v red quite a lot of good things about this bag (even thought it doesn't come with a bladder)!
I’m still running a OG camelback blowfish! I’m thinking circa 2002? It is sweat stained and wreaks of mildew and adventures past
Big reason I ride an EPIC Evo is that I can fit 2 large water bottles in my small frame.
I’m currently running a camelbak that’s almost 2 years old. It works decent enough, but I seem to remember Shimano used to make packs with a unique strap design. Given they’re a sponsor maybe you could get your hands on one and see how it compares?
Try the Deuter packs, I use the Attack enduro is indestructible
When Jeff talks about packs bouncing around I can't help but look at riding style then consider my riding and thinking to myself "That might not be a problem for me." 😂
LOL fair point! But hey, I do wanna be honest with you all in regard to my own experiences.
I just looked at pnw via your link and it looks like they've changed their "Range" handlebars... I was wanting to buy a 12 degree backsweep bar which just a few weeks ago I thought the range bars were. Now they're 10 degrees. That's still better than the 7 back and 0 up I use that hurts cuz the base of my thumb takes all the weight and impact. In a week or so I'll buy them via your link. Unless you have another suggestion for an 11-12 back 5-6 up and a 30mm rise that your affiliated with...
Hi Jeff - great video, thanks. Have you ever tested a back protector with (limited) backpack functionality? I‘m thinking about e.g. Ergon BP1 or POC SPINE VPD AIR BACKPACK VEST.
Which option would hold a Glock 43 best? I ALWAYS carry a pistol with me on my rides.
Surprised to see you had issues with the osprey bouncing around so much. I have the Syncro 5 and 12, although I typically don't use the hydration pack unless it's a long day. Most my rides are 2hrs or less, so the water bottle is good enough most the time, Figured if anything the water would push it down more than have it bounce up. I'm also no where near as aggressive or playful of a rider as you jumping around every chance you get.
Bought an Osprey Raptor for longer rides…end up using my Lab Austure hip pack and fidlock bottle instead. Pump fits parallel to spine in same bottle pocket. Just wish the hip pack was higher quality. Kinda falling apart after a year. Osprey is now only used for moto rides
The Osprey Savu hip pack is a great alternative to the Lab Austere. I've had mine for several years. Only thing is I can't confirm whether a pump will fit vertically.
i cant recommend enough the Evoc FR Trail Blackline with he back protector...
I love my ospreys raptor 14 and the savu
Right on JM!
Osprey raptor 14 for everyday and Osprey syncros for short rides. Always curious what you have in ur bag Jeff...besides cliff bars, what else?
Well, I have a whole list pretty early into this vid!!!
@@JeffKendallWeed sorry, munchies was what i should have put. What else do you like to snack on?
Sweet vid Jeffe i hate riding with a pack i go and stash water all over the bush wear i ride so i can just ride with one bidon , if i have to wear a pack i have a camel bak skyline 10 lr first model lr i think its the best ive used was thinking about the uswe mainly because the waist belt on the camelbak is kinda annoying how was the lighter uswe with just soft items in it did it hit your head ?
I love hip packs!
Hahaha enjoy! I’m not using them much anymore.
when i started i went backpack , then after that i strapped as much as i could in the bike , then i got a bumbag cuz i much prefer a cleaner looking bike , its 2024 and im back on a backpack :D
got the uswe sold not long ago. that no dancing monkey doenst work with a gopro chesty. and i didnt like the bladder, didnt "click"well. after much research i have bought the evoc enduroFR yes very expensive but worth the money. (comes without bladder :( )
I've had no issues with the USWE packs and my GoPro chesty. I use a Camelbak GoPro chesty plate and it site below the USWE center clip.
I've been eyeing the Evoc packs, any chance you could look at some hip-packs? Your feedback is pretty valuable ;)
I got one for €15 from Lidl and it does the job!
You-SWII! lol 😂 Hey Jeff, where was the shot of the Heather and fall colors in the mountain valley at?
Try the kudu camelbak I have the 10 and 20
I really hate extra weight that high up. a necessary evil if you have a long ride ahead. A lot more body english to maintain a vertical trajectory. BUT . . . there's got to be a better way. I would think that a vest would be a better overall use of weight distribution, although probably harder to manufacture a bladder, and harder to clean? But I'd go for that over a centralized load of crap on the middle of my back. I don't like packing on hikes either, have to carry stuff in and out, so a necessity, but not ideal. Especially when it moves around and makes you perspire like you're in a sauna.
I really like the straps on the USWE, but they have the worst quality zippers. I think I’ve had 5 different packs, and all have had zippers go bad.
How you get those bomb footage tho!
Try Ergon! Love mine!
I got a hip-pack 1 year ago since I'm pretty new to mtbing. I generally ride without a pack, all the essentials are strapped to my bike and the pack is just for water and snacks if I need them.
Nice Ibis bike!!!
Osprey Packs Viper 9 & Dakine Hot Laps 2L Bike Waist Bag
Does anyone else not use the bladders?
I do that on some older packs that I use for commuting, but most of the time if I'm going to need a pack it's because I'm spending 3-6 hours on the trail and need either the extra water or space to carry my water filter.
Yep i hardly ever use the bladder in my camelbak skyline 10lr its a great pack i regularly use a water bladder from the super market with just enough water for how ever long i' m planning on being out plus a bit i work on 600ml per hour in cool weather and run a bottle on my bike just stop and fill bottle up every hour then i drink every 15 mins works well .
For a quick local ride, I'll use the pack without the bladder, and just use a single water bottle. Having the pack is nice because tools, tube, pump are in there already, and there's room for keys, wallet, etc. (I don't like full pockets.) Feels pretty svelte without the bladder, too!
Love my Osprey
Cheers MT!
you really bring a shockpump around with you?
Good to know
Ten plus year old camelback.. want to upgrade but it works so well and cares all the stuff I need and doesn’t bother me riding. Don’t fix what isn’t broke? Maybe if it does…
Dig the script of the video.
Thanks Rek!!! I put a lot of work into this vid!
Why in the name of the lord do you carry a shock pump?
Everybody sleeping on Platypus
Does Platypus make complete packs? I thought they only made bladders.
@@JeffKendallWeed www.platy.com/platypus-archive/duthie-am/duthie-am.html
They did make these. Its like a better osprey syncro. The magnet actually held the drinking tube and it had great hip pockets. The bladder was easy to fill and get back in the pack too. Looks like they might be discontinued now. Its my favorite after trying the syncro and the raptor.
Dunny paper, you need dunny paper.
Or just poop before you ride!
Neeeeeerrrrrrrddddd
Ive owned a USWE for about a year and a half now and never ever wear it. Just never got along with it and isn't as comfortable as a traditional backpack style. That being said ill carry a hip pack 99% of the time.
Riding with a backpack??? Then your a fool
Don't recommend this item only because he is getting paid to say good things about this product do your research on all products!
Nobody rides like you