I'm so proud of these brave men telling their story. Too bad that the production of the Jeffrey Dahmer series weren't more sensitive to the survivors and families in the presentation of that heartless sociopath. RIH to the men and boys that did not survive his atrocities.
@@8luvbug yeah but I don't know I mean we never been in situation like this but if you feel someone is stronger than you. You could hit him with just about anything to injure him anything that you see you pick it up and hit him with it
These two men are so brave. I’m so sad they have to go through the media wringer again and again with reminders of their trauma and the man that hurt them. I’m thankful that I didn’t watch that show and I never will. I can’t believe how they just continued on and disregarded the survivors and victim’s families, but then again, I’m not surprised.
Can we not? That’s just more exploitation. Ryan Murphy is already making two more seasons of the “Monster” anthology with other serial killers. Let’s not give him any more ideas…
the pain in these men’s voices are heartbreaking. i keep up on true crime, yet haven’t watched the Dahmer series bc i knew i would be pissed. it’s bad enough we have to dodge documentary makers biases- i knew nothing good would be gained by watching anything that dramatizes these horrific crimes. ❤❤❤❤❤
We think of monsters and demons like in the movies,graveyards,old abandoned houses,NOPE, they are right beside us, living with, neighbors,walking by us, sitting rt by us on a bus,plane, restaurant, family members.
Jeffrey was a sick and twisted man. On the surface, he appeared gentle and kind but behind closed doors he killed and assaulted many people. I’ve never seen someone with such a two faced personality. It’s unbelievable. Maybe it’s just me but It’s crazy how a person can put on an act so well, like in one of his interviews in 1993.
No. He failed college, was discharged from the army, worked in a chocolate factory at unthinkable hours and didn't own a car. Plus had a horrible apartment
I have compassion for these men. A family member had an experience that has caused so much pain for him and now 4 generations of our family. These men deserve to be treated better from every level of our society,
I don't think creating a show glamorizes anything. All famous killers will have a show. Our society may find entertainment in these shows, but most people aren't idolizing the killers. We are being educated on the story, even if aspects aren't exactly correct.
I agree, and I think they did a good job in telling the story with what they had. I didn’t feel for Dahmer at all during the show? I felt for the victims, their families but also Dahmers family. I didn’t know much of what Dahmer had done before watching the show. It doesn’t glamorize anything in my opinion. It just shows what a sick human being can do to others and get away with it for so long.
I watched the old Kaye Griggs interviews. I think they run 8-10 hours. If I remember correctly, she said something to the effect of, the CIA or FBI knew about Dahmer and that's why he kept getting away with stuff for so long. It wasn't luck.
They talk about glorifying/glamourizing him, yet they’re on a show which is talking about Dahmer and what he did as well. I feel for them, for what happened and what they went through, but they talk about this, like this is the first time this has happened. This has happened with Dahmer and many other serial killers for decades now. Numerous movies, tv shows, podcasts, documentaries.
I mean you get to a point where victims of abuse trying to move on with time explode due to the subject or the predator keeps popping up. Like people are tired. They want to move on and cant. We as people will never let victims rest cause we love glamorizing the predator and love the violence and disgusting acts they do. Deny it all you want ,but bad news are always getting attention compared to good news.
@@l.o.v.edrive3466 You and them can call it glamorizing if you want, I don’t believe that. As a true crime fan, I’ve always been fascinated about how their minds work, why they did these things, the investigation of it all. No one is glamourizing or glorifying what these killers have done, but like it or not. This has been a thing for decades, since the 60’s, 70’s when serial killers really took off. It’s not going away, it’s apart of history and they will always be talked about.
Yeah! And Do you think that he killed anyone in the army? Because I believe he was honest about his crimes and he never mentioned that. Body language experts have said that he was honest in his interviews.
@@lamaramariewilson6746 The owner of a small subreddit either cracked it or knows something and is just pretending to have stumbled onto this. The subreddit is called 'TheDahmerCase' See the facial comparisons. I don't think the owner of the sub has said whether he/she thinks he's alive. But, that seems like it would be a logical conclusion.
Dr. Phil really ? Your host said off the start that he did not want to bring attention to this, but looks and sounds like it. I think your hosts are there for the wrong reasons.
@@anthonycampos8057 I imagine they mean making them famous or infamous because of their crimes. But then is the alternative not to let it be known what happened and sweep it under the rug?
@@anthonycampos8057 Ted Bundy, Dahmer and Richard Ramirez have several movie or series adaptations. It's unnecessary to keep showing these individuals. There are tons of serial killers out there. The most prolific serial killer was Samuel Little and you don't see them glamorizing him. One of the worst killers out there was Rodney Alcala as well. Glamorizing people who they think are attractive is so odd and there are tons of comics online glamorizing serial killers, psychopaths and sociopaths. On Webtoons there are tons of these comics directed at children.
The one thing I hope other than the best for these gentlemen (as a survivor I am with them in heart and spirit)... I really hope this won't lead to bashing of the LGBTQ community. We don't claim him and we don't want him.
The lgbt community has always protected abusers. Whenever trans women out closeted men for abusing them the LGBT community defends the abusers and tells the trans girls they should just shut up and take the abuse. The lgbt community is a JOKE !!!!!
I would hope it doesn't because his being homosexual has little to nothing to do with his being a murderer just as his being white or tall has little to do with it. Even his mental illness is less significant the fact that he was abused and neglected as a child just as nearly every single serial killer has been. Not being empathetic here just saying that's generally what makes a monster, not anything regarding race or sexuality
EXACTLY!! these people would do anything to make money and gain attention!! The fact that all these comments are defending these two men is an absolute mess! Even Phil's having an hard time believing in them!
Jeff had ties with the cia they created him for gods sake literally every single serial killer had ties with the cia sadly only physical proof would make you believe this statement aka brainwashed beyond return
I struggle to believe this mans story, it doesn't stack up with anything known about Jeffery dahmer. What he claims is nothing like what jeffery dahmer did with any of his other victims.
I don’t believe them either! And if you look up “Jeffery Dahmer body language” on TH-cam and watch those videos; you will see that Jeff was very honest in his interviews!
@@lamaramariewilson6746 yeah it’s not like he was a manipulative or cunning person at all. 🤡🤡🤡🤡 jeff dahmer was an honest man and he came clean about everything after he got caught. unbelievable
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 no one can or will say Dahmer wasn't a manipulative monster, but there are many inconsistencies when it comes to Capshaw's stories. Dahmer also had a body type that he was going for, that was how he chose his victims, and Capshaw doesn't fit that stereotype, not even remotely. There are others who actually spent a night with Dahmer and were drugged but not killed, yet no one spoke of torture. Even when Dahmer gave a full confession about his crimes, almost everything he did to the bodies was postmortem. So yeah, Dahmer was a monster and a killer but what Capshaw says doesn't fit the profile what so ever. To me it seems he's just trying to make some money out of the whole thing.
Adam Walsh doesn't fit either but a lot of things add up to it being Dahmer that killed him. His first victim doesn't fit either. These all would have been before he fell into his typical hunting ground so I wouldn't disbelieve the possibility of these being his early crimes
Things were different back then. Homophobia and toxic masculinity were more entrenched. Billy said he felt ashamed because people didn’t believe/understand a man could be raped by another man and that it was ~a sign of weakness~. Billy didn’t want his father knowing out of shame. He was 17 and Dahmer was 19. Billy said it turned into a Stockholm syndrome type situation in that Dahmer would beat, rape and control him but also bought him books, played chess and tended to his wounds. He’s not the only one…many men didn’t speak out until they were older. It was difficult for them to process and talk about. You need to remember the context and what abusers + context psychologically do to victims. In a way making them feel like they “deserve it”, there’s no way out, just the way things are so just accept it…the abuser had a normal/manipulative/almost charming side to them, you won’t be taken seriously, having a rape kit thrown out by the nurse etc. And then when they speak out, people blame the victim, which only makes it worse for their mental health. Also Billy said apparently one of their superiors in the military was a closeted gay man too, had “feminine mannerisms” and Dahmer would go into his office often. Billy suspected Dahmer was getting BJs from this man but had no evidence.
I think maybe the editors could have been a little more sympathetic. Cutting from these brave men. One who says, "yes of course is affects me still..." to Dr Phil smiling asking me if I have a problem for him to solve.... I guarantee the problems I have for you to solve are NOTHING compared to these brave men...
I don’t know what you might be going through Or what situation you’re in right now but I no god is there for you and he loves you God bless everyone who came across dis🇧🇸
Rip to all the victims that is so crazy what happend i watch the series the monster dhrmaer he was a monster what he did to all thoses poor people I feel so bad for the victims
Everyone should think about what I am going to write. This seems strange to me! One of the first people they interviewed in the press after they arrested Jeff was none other than Billy Capshaw! Out of all the people ! Supposedly Jeff was only around Billy for a year and a half and they were not on good terms yet as soon as Jeff was arrested Billy was on television talking about him like he just saw him the day before.
He knew the difference between right and wrong. He said he did. He deserved what he got. Many people have hard lives and don’t do this. There is true evil in the world. What if it was your child that he drilled in the head? Would you feel like that?
I don't think he would have wanted help. He liked himself and who he was before the police got a hold of him. No one can be forced into therapy. Sometimes a monster is just a monster. Their is no point or rhyme or reason to evil.
FRRRRRRR LMFAO But seriously, how's jeff the reason for his son's death!?! There's a limit to lie about a dead man for the sake of money and fame! Absolutely hilarious
@@FraterPerpetuusCoegi Things were different back then. Homophobia and toxic masculinity were more entrenched. Billy said he felt ashamed because people didn’t believe/understand a man could be raped by another man and that it was ~a sign of weakness~. Billy didn’t want his father knowing out of shame. He was 17 and Dahmer was 19. Billy said it turned into a Stockholm syndrome type situation in that Dahmer would beat, rape and control him but also bought him books, played chess and tended to his wounds. He’s not the only one…many men didn’t speak out until they were older. It was difficult for them to process and talk about. You need to remember the context and what abusers + context psychologically do to victims. In a way making them feel like they “deserve it”, there’s no way out, just the way things are so just accept it…the abuser had a normal/manipulative/almost charming side to them, you won’t be taken seriously, having a rape kit thrown out by the nurse etc. And then when they speak out, people blame the victim, which only makes it worse for their mental health. Also Billy said apparently one of their superiors in the military was a closeted gay man too, had “feminine mannerisms” and Dahmer would go into his office often. Billy suspected Dahmer was getting BJs from this man but had no evidence.
yes, especially to ask them exactly when did they saw victims last day, and why it`s no any inormation about victims in Social Security files at all. Who had removed all information, ad why it was used fake identities about victims. And much much more. I think victims families know much more than it was told in court.
Don't blame Netflix cast crew etc. It's called DAHMER if you were in his circle or whatever and KNOW it would cause PTSD DO NOT WATCH IT! YOU BRING IT ON YOURSELF IF YOU WATCH IT
Rest in Heaven to all the victims 🙏🏼
Yeah. It's a shame that so many people forgot about them. It's disrespectful.😠
@@pushage69 Seriously?😠
@@pushage69 I'm blocking you because you are really insulting my intelligence. Have a good day.😠
Fags don’t go to heaven
@@snowqueen24intelligent people don't need to edit their comments 😅
I guess this man was too scared to tell the police bought Jeffrey. I feel so bad for him , I'm happy he managed to escape Jeffrey alive .
I'm so proud of these brave men telling their story. Too bad that the production of the Jeffrey Dahmer series weren't more sensitive to the survivors and families in the presentation of that heartless sociopath. RIH to the men and boys that did not survive his atrocities.
Just my question is why didn't Billy defend himself why did he let Dahmer do this to him
Sensitivity is super coating what he did
@@thelongway93 Dahmer was stronger than him probably and had a height advantage
@@8luvbug yeah but I don't know I mean we never been in situation like this but if you feel someone is stronger than you. You could hit him with just about anything to injure him anything that you see you pick it up and hit him with it
@@thelongway93 he drugged the guys before he assaulted them.
These two men are so brave. I’m so sad they have to go through the media wringer again and again with reminders of their trauma and the man that hurt them. I’m thankful that I didn’t watch that show and I never will. I can’t believe how they just continued on and disregarded the survivors and victim’s families, but then again, I’m not surprised.
Wow… I got the notification and just had to listen to this. This guy was SICK. Like don’t even joke about him.
Their needs to be a part two to dahmer. And they need to make it “ life after dahmer” with their families.
Can we not? That’s just more exploitation. Ryan Murphy is already making two more seasons of the “Monster” anthology with other serial killers. Let’s not give him any more ideas…
No, that's too far. The community did nothing for the victims families. That would be an absolute insult to the victims families.
Sounds boring
The poor mans son..
My heart goes out to these people
the pain in these men’s voices are heartbreaking. i keep up on true crime, yet haven’t watched the Dahmer series bc i knew i would be pissed. it’s bad enough we have to dodge documentary makers biases- i knew nothing good would be gained by watching anything that dramatizes these horrific crimes. ❤❤❤❤❤
It’s just a show quit being a baby
''the pain in these men’s voices are heartbreaking.''
LOL
A show, its about real ppl @iamtylerperry3849
@user-en6zl1cm5r how is that funny
We think of monsters and demons like in the movies,graveyards,old abandoned houses,NOPE, they are right beside us, living with, neighbors,walking by us, sitting rt by us on a bus,plane, restaurant, family members.
the army covered up jeffrey’s murder of Hans by leaving the case closed.
who is hans?
😂whaaaaat. Who is Hans
So tired of hearing about Jeffery Dahmer. Rest in peace to the victims
Yet you clicked on the video… 🤔
And yet hear you are
I mean, click on another video, then 😂.
😅
Jeffrey was a sick and twisted man. On the surface, he appeared gentle and kind but behind closed doors he killed and assaulted many people. I’ve never seen someone with such a two faced personality. It’s unbelievable. Maybe it’s just me but It’s crazy how a person can put on an act so well, like in one of his interviews in 1993.
He was a Gemini, the two faced personality was natural to him
@@HSdirectioner5 lol and what is your zodiac sign........
@@goodgolly4726 Pisces, wby
@@HSdirectioner5 I was curious what sign was hating on the other
@@goodgolly4726 oh okay. Yea a lot of geminis are super two faced but I try not to judge immediately before getting to know them :)
Even dr Phil is jumping on the dahmer hype
Ikr everyone making bank
Of course he is, it's Dr Phil..
I didn't even realize that dr. phil was still on the air until I saw this. He seems quite unsympathetic to these people that have crossed Dahmer.
“Jeff is very charming, very charismatic, he was successful in everything he did” true.
No. He failed college, was discharged from the army, worked in a chocolate factory at unthinkable hours and didn't own a car. Plus had a horrible apartment
This is so heartbreaking 💔 😢 😞
I have compassion for these men. A family member had an experience that has caused so much pain for him and now 4 generations of our family. These men deserve to be treated better from every level of our society,
So sad for his victims and even though they survived him they still have to live with the fact of what happened to them. So sad just so sad.
Of course he's glamorized. In this day and age, good is now evil and evil is now good. Everything is twisted. As above so below...👌🏻
the world is getting darker.....
Good point
So true and sad
It’s every man for himself and every woman for herself for that matter.
Can't wait to watch the whole video in a half hour when it airs!
I don't think creating a show glamorizes anything. All famous killers will have a show. Our society may find entertainment in these shows, but most people aren't idolizing the killers. We are being educated on the story, even if aspects aren't exactly correct.
I agree, and I think they did a good job in telling the story with what they had. I didn’t feel for Dahmer at all during the show? I felt for the victims, their families but also Dahmers family. I didn’t know much of what Dahmer had done before watching the show. It doesn’t glamorize anything in my opinion. It just shows what a sick human being can do to others and get away with it for so long.
May his son rest in peace
These men are so brave for telling their story!
It is so much more difficult for men to come forward when they have been raped by another man. 😢
This is honestly rare!
I watched the old Kaye Griggs interviews. I think they run 8-10 hours. If I remember correctly, she said something to the effect of, the CIA or FBI knew about Dahmer and that's why he kept getting away with stuff for so long. It wasn't luck.
Wow 😱‼️
I never saw the Netflix series this has been very enlightening it's hard to believe there is so much EVIL in this world
Something is off about this guy??
Which one?
@@chuc5o all 3☠️
Yes I don't like to say it but it doesn't seem right.
I don't believe them... At all!
the military knows everything
they don’t act on it
What you mean they know everything?
He was under mk ultra programming no doubt about it. As was John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, etc.
They talk about glorifying/glamourizing him, yet they’re on a show which is talking about Dahmer and what he did as well. I feel for them, for what happened and what they went through, but they talk about this, like this is the first time this has happened. This has happened with Dahmer and many other serial killers for decades now. Numerous movies, tv shows, podcasts, documentaries.
they are lying
@@unculturedswine4360 I’m not going to speculate whether they are or not.
I mean you get to a point where victims of abuse trying to move on with time explode due to the subject or the predator keeps popping up. Like people are tired. They want to move on and cant. We as people will never let victims rest cause we love glamorizing the predator and love the violence and disgusting acts they do. Deny it all you want ,but bad news are always getting attention compared to good news.
Exactly.
@@l.o.v.edrive3466 You and them can call it glamorizing if you want, I don’t believe that. As a true crime fan, I’ve always been fascinated about how their minds work, why they did these things, the investigation of it all. No one is glamourizing or glorifying what these killers have done, but like it or not. This has been a thing for decades, since the 60’s, 70’s when serial killers really took off. It’s not going away, it’s apart of history and they will always be talked about.
5bodies where found at the time he was in Germany....when he left it stopped....
Those two army guys have been capitalizing on this Dahmer ever since the 90s believe me they're getting paid!
Yeah! And Do you think that he killed anyone in the army? Because I believe he was honest about his crimes and he never mentioned that. Body language experts have said that he was honest in his interviews.
@@lamaramariewilson6746 I don't think Dahmer killed anyone. I think it was a psyop and he was the world's highest paid crisis actor.
@@user-en6zl1cm5r wow! That’s interesting I’ve never heard that theory before. Why do you Yh ink this? And do you believe that he is still alive?
@@lamaramariewilson6746 The owner of a small subreddit either cracked it or knows something and is just pretending to have stumbled onto this. The subreddit is called 'TheDahmerCase'
See the facial comparisons.
I don't think the owner of the sub has said whether he/she thinks he's alive. But, that seems like it would be a logical conclusion.
@@user-en6zl1cm5r Ok thanks! I’ll check it out! 🙏
Rest in heaven to all the victims & Praying for the victims families ❤
Dr. Phil really ? Your host said off the start that he did not want to bring attention to this, but looks and sounds like it. I think your hosts are there for the wrong reasons.
Let's stop glamorizing serial killers
What do you mean by glamorizing?
@@anthonycampos8057 I imagine they mean making them famous or infamous because of their crimes. But then is the alternative not to let it be known what happened and sweep it under the rug?
@@anthonycampos8057 Ted Bundy, Dahmer and Richard Ramirez have several movie or series adaptations. It's unnecessary to keep showing these individuals. There are tons of serial killers out there. The most prolific serial killer was Samuel Little and you don't see them glamorizing him. One of the worst killers out there was Rodney Alcala as well. Glamorizing people who they think are attractive is so odd and there are tons of comics online glamorizing serial killers, psychopaths and sociopaths. On Webtoons there are tons of these comics directed at children.
The one thing I hope other than the best for these gentlemen (as a survivor I am with them in heart and spirit)... I really hope this won't lead to bashing of the LGBTQ community. We don't claim him and we don't want him.
The lgbt community has always protected abusers. Whenever trans women out closeted men for abusing them the LGBT community defends the abusers and tells the trans girls they should just shut up and take the abuse. The lgbt community is a JOKE !!!!!
I would hope it doesn't because his being homosexual has little to nothing to do with his being a murderer just as his being white or tall has little to do with it. Even his mental illness is less significant the fact that he was abused and neglected as a child just as nearly every single serial killer has been. Not being empathetic here just saying that's generally what makes a monster, not anything regarding race or sexuality
Why the ^uck wasn't this reported, different time.
Jeffrey said he wasn't sexually assaulted but said later that he was. So idk.
to be fair they make a movie about everything though
How did they glamorized him?
@@jonadams2334 thank you I understand now
No they didn't glamorize him! They told the story that's it. I think you're the one who's got a crush
I think they’re lying tbh…anything for clout tho
glamorizing is different than monetizing
I mean it did stop…. He’s dead…
According to them he's still out there killing people...and will continue to do it-
He's immortal
Why are they not suing for all other dahmer films? Lol
Most are documentaries, this one was really shocking because it was acted out and a lot of people feel that it’s very disrespectful.
They can't. It's all public record. What are they gonna sue for?
@@anthonycampos8057 exactly.
Lying on a dead man is crazy
EXACTLY!! these people would do anything to make money and gain attention!! The fact that all these comments are defending these two men is an absolute mess!
Even Phil's having an hard time believing in them!
Jeff had ties with the cia they created him for gods sake literally every single serial killer had ties with the cia sadly only physical proof would make you believe this statement aka brainwashed beyond return
I struggle to believe this mans story, it doesn't stack up with anything known about Jeffery dahmer. What he claims is nothing like what jeffery dahmer did with any of his other victims.
I don’t believe them either! And if you look up “Jeffery Dahmer body language” on TH-cam and watch those videos; you will see that Jeff was very honest in his interviews!
@@lamaramariewilson6746 yeah it’s not like he was a manipulative or cunning person at all. 🤡🤡🤡🤡 jeff dahmer was an honest man and he came clean about everything after he got caught. unbelievable
i think these guys r liars , they just need attention 🤠
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 no one can or will say Dahmer wasn't a manipulative monster, but there are many inconsistencies when it comes to Capshaw's stories. Dahmer also had a body type that he was going for, that was how he chose his victims, and Capshaw doesn't fit that stereotype, not even remotely. There are others who actually spent a night with Dahmer and were drugged but not killed, yet no one spoke of torture. Even when Dahmer gave a full confession about his crimes, almost everything he did to the bodies was postmortem. So yeah, Dahmer was a monster and a killer but what Capshaw says doesn't fit the profile what so ever. To me it seems he's just trying to make some money out of the whole thing.
Adam Walsh doesn't fit either but a lot of things add up to it being Dahmer that killed him. His first victim doesn't fit either. These all would have been before he fell into his typical hunting ground so I wouldn't disbelieve the possibility of these being his early crimes
So what's up with these two guys? So was Jeffrey a 7 ft tall Amazon man?
No Serial Killers have a genetic mutation that gives them faster reaction time and stronger strength than most people.
Things were different back then. Homophobia and toxic masculinity were more entrenched. Billy said he felt ashamed because people didn’t believe/understand a man could be raped by another man and that it was ~a sign of weakness~. Billy didn’t want his father knowing out of shame. He was 17 and Dahmer was 19. Billy said it turned into a Stockholm syndrome type situation in that Dahmer would beat, rape and control him but also bought him books, played chess and tended to his wounds.
He’s not the only one…many men didn’t speak out until they were older. It was difficult for them to process and talk about. You need to remember the context and what abusers + context psychologically do to victims. In a way making them feel like they “deserve it”, there’s no way out, just the way things are so just accept it…the abuser had a normal/manipulative/almost charming side to them, you won’t be taken seriously, having a rape kit thrown out by the nurse etc. And then when they speak out, people blame the victim, which only makes it worse for their mental health. Also Billy said apparently one of their superiors in the military was a closeted gay man too, had “feminine mannerisms” and Dahmer would go into his office often. Billy suspected Dahmer was getting BJs from this man but had no evidence.
THEY'RE LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING
Who?
Explain the logic
I agree. They have weapons, etc. They're full of $hit.
didn't the black guy say he didn't remember ?? hmmm
Rest in peace Jeff.
I think maybe the editors could have been a little more sympathetic. Cutting from these brave men. One who says, "yes of course is affects me still..." to Dr Phil smiling asking me if I have a problem for him to solve.... I guarantee the problems I have for you to solve are NOTHING compared to these brave men...
I don’t know what you might be going through Or what situation you’re in right now but I no god is there for you and he loves you God bless everyone who came across dis🇧🇸
His son shot himself because of Jeffrey? Why??
Nobody ever said Jeffrey Dahmer had a tribe personality everybody said he was always weird and awkward.
Rip to all the victims that is so crazy what happend i watch the series the monster dhrmaer he was a monster what he did to all thoses poor people I feel so bad for the victims
I wont watch it
Why?
@@anthonycampos8057 evil
@@rockinrobin7105Lol trust me it's not evil, it's actually hilarious to watch these full grown men lieing about a dead guy for clout.
the jeffery dahmer story Netflix series came out.
Jeff Is a victim too 🥺
How
@@keaunarose9965he himself was an victim of his own compulsions..he was a child who needed help but never got any
Everyone should think about what I am going to write. This seems strange to me! One of the first people they interviewed in the press after they arrested Jeff was none other than Billy Capshaw! Out of all the people ! Supposedly Jeff was only around Billy for a year and a half and they were not on good terms yet as soon as Jeff was arrested Billy was on television talking about him like he just saw him the day before.
I believe needed help. But no one helped him, we are no one to judge him. Yes it's sad happened to the victims.
He knew the difference between right and wrong. He said he did. He deserved what he got. Many people have hard lives and don’t do this. There is true evil in the world. What if it was your child that he drilled in the head? Would you feel like that?
I don't think he would have wanted help. He liked himself and who he was before the police got a hold of him. No one can be forced into therapy. Sometimes a monster is just a monster. Their is no point or rhyme or reason to evil.
He had plenty of chances to get help. He rejected all. I can judge him for taking lives of men and boys for his sick selfish fantasies. Disgusting pos
Facts! I agree with you
All the help in the world wouldnt have made a difference. a psychopath is a psychopath.
Yeah he shot himself because you won't stop talking about it!
FRRRRRRR LMFAO
But seriously, how's jeff the reason for his son's death!?! There's a limit to lie about a dead man for the sake of money and fame! Absolutely hilarious
Billy is a liar.
Did he go to the police after the rape ect?
no, cause Jeff didn`t touch him at all. Billy looking after attention. Nothing more.
Military
I'm thinking that too because in the military and I've been in the military before there's always somebody there . He could have reported him
@@FraterPerpetuusCoegi Things were different back then. Homophobia and toxic masculinity were more entrenched. Billy said he felt ashamed because people didn’t believe/understand a man could be raped by another man and that it was ~a sign of weakness~. Billy didn’t want his father knowing out of shame. He was 17 and Dahmer was 19. Billy said it turned into a Stockholm syndrome type situation in that Dahmer would beat, rape and control him but also bought him books, played chess and tended to his wounds.
He’s not the only one…many men didn’t speak out until they were older. It was difficult for them to process and talk about. You need to remember the context and what abusers + context psychologically do to victims. In a way making them feel like they “deserve it”, there’s no way out, just the way things are so just accept it…the abuser had a normal/manipulative/almost charming side to them, you won’t be taken seriously, having a rape kit thrown out by the nurse etc. And then when they speak out, people blame the victim, which only makes it worse for their mental health. Also Billy said apparently one of their superiors in the military was a closeted gay man too, had “feminine mannerisms” and Dahmer would go into his office often. Billy suspected Dahmer was getting BJs from this man but had no evidence.
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😫bring back jeffy .
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do you realize he would've probably turned you into one of his victims?? you also look like his type.
@@breezystl777 Lol
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Don't be fake, let the ACTUAL victims and their families have their story and peace you losers
yes, especially to ask them exactly when did they saw victims last day, and why it`s no any inormation about victims in Social Security files at all. Who had removed all information, ad why it was used fake identities about victims. And much much more. I think victims families know much more than it was told in court.
My dear jeffrey... U will always be loved wherever ur spirit is
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Lol! Well that's creepy. Also I believe people close to him called him Jeff 😉
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Obamas bought Netflix.
FAKE. Yall are trying to come up on the Dahmer story and it shows
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this guys are winnies i just gave up??? WTF!!!
LMFAO i guess he was jus enjoyin it
Don't blame Netflix cast crew etc. It's called DAHMER if you were in his circle or whatever and KNOW it would cause PTSD DO NOT WATCH IT! YOU BRING IT ON YOURSELF IF YOU WATCH IT
You don’t have to watch the show to be constantly reminded of it. It’s being talked about everywhere. Have a little empathy and common sense.