The scary thing about Jeffrey Dahmer is there are still people living in America that are just like him, and have not been caught.....and some of them never will.
Its very hard to be a serial killer in this era, because of social media, no way someone can get away with that much now days, unless you're a politician.
@@johndoe-xy4xq EXACTLY!!! People go missing every week without a trace. I don't understand why people assume there aren't much serial killers anymore or that there isn't much of them committing murders. Most serial killers aren't stupid. Surely they'll find a way to ADAPT based on modern surroundings.
Imagine you come halfway across the world, work your a$$ off to get a college degree in an unfamiliar country, work a very tough job (dealing with tenants is rough) and then you have to deal with this insanity. I hope he recovered after all this.
Who would ACTUALLY THINK that someone was eating people and storing dead people in their apartment? I'm sorry but I feel for these people because who would think that? No one in their right mind would think that straight out.
No but you would think they would hear something.... But they never did because most people were either on drugs in gangs, drug dealers or just didn't snitch
@@gabrielguzman6018 yah cuz back in the day especially the ghettos people keep to them selves and don’t get involved especially wit police they was all still racist them times
Dude said that Jeffrey had the cleanest/neatest apartment he ever visited in that building compared to other residents he’d visited there…Imagine being a tenant in the same building and finding out your serial killer neighbor with various rotting corpses lying around kept a more tidy apartment than you. 😬
He probably cleaned up before the manager would visit. In the doc series it was a mess most of the time. I bet the victims would describe his place differently.
And then as time went on, when he was saying that it “just got easier to kill” is when he got a little more messy from what I could tell. He said, I think, that he had three bodies in the tub that he moved around so he could shower. It’s still hard to imagine how clean an apartment could be after that.
He seems like a decent landlord. He just wanted everyone to be comfortable and addressed tenant concerns by offering cleaning services. He even went to inspect the apartment (which most managers don’t even do). By then Dahmer, probably made it look normal. Not to mention, he was responsible for over 40 other tenants so his focus wasn’t strictly on Dahmer.
He came off like a lazy slumlord. To your point (and his own) if majority of your tenants are complaining about this ONE tenant funking up the entire building why wouldn’t that tenant become your primary focus?? His presence was a nuisance to the building and instead of focusing on getting him out he is waxing poetical about wanting to “do business” with him. The only reason he eventually decided to evict him was because a potential tenant refused to move in because of the smell. He dgaf about the smell impacting other existing tenants despite repeated complaints but because he was starting to lose out on money he changed his tune. This man didn’t care about those other tenants. All he cared about was his bottom line: money. When I lived in apts with actual GOOD property managers they stayed on top of tenant complaints and always did their best to mitigate issues. Any strange smells reported were always thoroughly investigated if necessary, the super or maintenance was sent to check things out. This was blatant negligence.
“Odors don’t strangle people” he was annoyed with her and that comment was A1. He held himself so composed and articulate and maintained his statement and didn’t let her confuse him. He’s such an amazing guy 💜
Imagine being an immigrant trying to make a decent life for yourself and then having to testify in a trial against a serial killer/cannibal. Probably never imagined he would have to be witness to something like this in a first world country.
Very sad. And honestly, if I was the resident of this complex I’d most likely complain then ask to be moved to another apartment. I wouldn’t even confront dahmer. It’s crazy because his father suspected something and just brushed it off.
The thing that stood out the most, is the fact that his story never changed, know matter how many times he was questioned. Even under this type of pressure, he remained well reserved!
No he didn't if that was the case he would've been caught sooner instead he let his tenants continuously complain about their neighbor's horrendous smelling apartment instead of finally kicking him out
I wonder how they didn’t recognize the smell either. We had someone die in our apartment building. Others haven’t seen him for a few days and we did a welfare check for him. He had passed away a few days before. The cops could smell it as soon as they got into the elevator. So idk how these cops couldn’t tell.
The police investigators tried on multiple occasions to get in and to investigate dahmer and the odors and this same apt Mgr blocked them, refused to let them in and impeded their investigations.
People in 2022 believe in devils, such an elementary notion. Watch out for Beezelbub, Satan, Lucifer, The Big Bad Wolf, King Kong, and The devil with the blue dress. I swear to Zeus.
What is shocking is that people actually thought the smell was rotten food. The smell of a decomposing human is nothing like food or an animal! It is so putrid you can taste it.. 🤮 You instinctively know that it is unnatural. This is horrifying and has stayed with me for years. So scary that such monsters are among us and we don't even recognize them. Everyone please be safe and hold your loved ones close.🙏🙏🙏
@@kayjay407 l believe that the odor permeated the place more strongly whenever the killer opened the barrel of chemical and decaying body waste. The mixture must have been unbearable and probably hard to define as just dead flesh since the chemical odor was also there
This guy walked into the apartment of the most prolific serial killer in U.S history on three different occasions and lived. I think nobody here appreciates how unbelievably lucky he was.
the landlord suddenly missing would have obviously been noticed....serial killers are not stupid,,,,,,, neighbor says to police....thet last time i saw the landlord was when i complained to him about the smell in apartment 213....... the police goes in apt 213 and smells the same bad odour. question is....what does the officer do at this point....call for back up....arrest him on the spot...or say nothing to see here have a nice day and go on to his next call...
I wouldn't want to said it was lucky when u already in Dahmer story I only read and watch his story got me traumatized let alone those people interaction and meet him in person sick
I'm a property manager for 5 years and I can tell you, tenants and their apartments can stink for a variety of reasons. Sometimes they're just smelly guys. To suggest someone would suspect dead bodies is outrageous! Feel sorry for this man. If anyone is to blame it's the cops for letting Dahmer go.
I lived in a second story apartment. The old man who lived in the apartment beneath mine was estranged from his family and very reclusive. He died in his apartment (with the AC turned off) in July. The body was undiscovered for days. Let me tell you, the smell of a decomposing body is not like any other odor. There’s no way it can be confused with any other smell.
I feel a bit sad for this dude, I do belive he is a very genuin, honest and a good person, who doesn't want to make anyone feel mistreated. Unfortunately he got intangled in this horror story. 😕
@@jamesr.g.2320 What? He did everything a normal landlord would do over a bad odor. I’ve had worse landlords at expensive apartments. They all suck. This guy managed a building in the ghetto, at least he was threatening to throw Dahmer out over the same complaints.
@@jamesr.g.2320 i mean he does own the building dumbass so of course he's about his money clown 🤡 fucc outta here tryna throw shade for someone doing his job 😂
@@LuneyTune72 yea I think he handled this situation the best he knew how. Nobody could ever Fathom Jeff had a little shop of horrors in that apartment like that. Even with that awful smell nobody could have EVER imagined the severity of this horror
This witness was very articulate even though at one point she was trying to confuse him. I understood everything he said. Crazy how this entire thing unfolded. So sad that lots of people died. May they all rest in peace
The one that escaped and lived to tell.about it (and testified) really moved me. His dignity, now he spoke, he was grace under fire. Was so glad that he has lived and hope he found his tranquility .
@@codybarry8204 unfortunately, the guy who escaped (Tracey Edwards) was arrested 20 years later for being involved in a man’s fatal drowning. And before the Dahmer case, he had a conviction for sexual battery against a 14 year old girl. I was disappointed and horrified to learn this….because he did come across as having a lot of poise and grace during the trial.
If he had gone home with him, he would have LITERALLY gotten his little turkey stuffed. Uh oh, here comes Jeffrey with the turkey baster. Everybody RUN!!!!
i think they can sometimes though. i was in a bus and noticed a toxic fume. i ran to the driver's door and pleaded to let us out. the driver's initial reaction was i lost my mind, but then everyone had to get out of the bus and wait for a different bus to take over. i think everyone instinctively knew the odor was lethal. it had been socal in the late 90's or there'd probably be surveillance footage of this.
Yea I think so too. In the movie I thought he was gonna off his grandma n do just that bcuz she was always getting in the middle of his bs. Smh there are some really sick ppl in this world.
If he would have killed the landlord it would have been over right away ...he preyed on gay black men mostly because the community's of the USA do not care about gay black men ..not even in the black community's much less the white ones...
@@dsp_91 I tried and tried to find info on him, as I would like to know, as well. Nothing comes up other than the book he wrote regarding Jeffrey Dahmer but another site says he's a real estate broker in Milwaukee, WI so maybe he is still living,
So many chance to catch him. Nasty smells coming from his apartment, tub of chemicals in his bedroom, different men coming but not going, noises of cutting tools, constant complaints from his neighbour to the police, Jeffrey being caught drugging people at the sauna place, the young lad roaming the streets who the police returned back to Jeffrey. Staggering how it took so long to catch him.
He was white and this was a long time ago blacks where not protected by the police it was a black club black landlord they probably were not calling cops a lot especially on a white person .. ie when the women called for the young boy look what happened
Why do people love to use terms like that, when describing black People??😂 “beautifully spoken”, “Well spoken”, “articulate”?!? What’s the opposite of that? Ugly or Poorly spoken? Bad spoken? Lol The lawyer asking questions speaks just as well… where are his compliments??
Loved his style. Simple, lucid, well thought-out replies. The defence was poor. They were trying to prove Dahmer was insane to get lesser sentencing and there was no questions about that or reducing the credibility of the witness…
What I learn from cases like this is that most of the time the defense even don’t want to be there, but they are appointed and also once the defendant confesses to the crimes, they only try to do their job that is not to get the death penalty. Even Arias case was like that. Her defense lead Kirk Nurmi later said that in an interview.
The way jeffery attorney attacked this poor man for being his landlord with stupid questions is absurd! She really tried bringing in another case to cover up for Jeffery’s apartment odor 🤦🏻♀️🤬🤬🤬
@@cindymcmillan609 I don't think he doesn't care at all...I just think that in the moment he made bad, selfish decisions and these decisions cost other people, some their lives.
It’s the way he says “ De Smell ” 🤦🏽♂️🤣 he was on point with his entire presentation. Very well spoken man. I wonder if Mr. Princewell still alive&ifso how well does he feel they portrayed the Netflix series…🤔
@@louisemcbride8681 Well the officers were much more at fault for letting Jeffrey get away with 14 year old Konerak Sinthasimphone. Those officers, were lazy, evil, liars who never got punishment for what they did. Glenda Cleveland’s niece was probably screaming at them to do their job and they didn’t listen.
Unfortunately the building was located in an undeserved community area. The city isn’t as aggressive checking apartment complexes in these areas. They can go for months or years violating city regulations until an accident or a Dahmer happens… Sad but true, I worked with contractors for years and they do some crazy unsafe things to prevent themselves from spending money. Covering mold, covering asbestos, ignoring complains and just doing quick fixes that eventually cause bigger problems and cause Healt issues to the renters.
If the smell was that bad how did he keep getting visitors?!! They said it smelled from the front of the house. I couldn’t imagine going to someone apartment and the front smelled that bad and getting closer to a apartment that the smell was coming from.
Some people are jus nasty especially in lower housing community’s people tend to kneel to them selves rather than get invovled personally especially when the guy was a white man
Did you actually research this case? He targeted young, economically disenfranchised people with promises of money and whatever else. He preyed on sex workers, poor people of color, a deaf person, etc. It's not that hard to understand why this happened.
I feel for this building manager. You can tell he cared for his tenants, and for this to happen around him must have been devastating. I'm also sure he was relieved he didn't go into any business with Dahmer, surely would have ended up in a more crazy situation
I feel so bad for Jeffrey Dahmer's lawyer . This was her first case I believe and she was just thrown into and was still new and people were attacking her outside of work . She didn't agree with what he did and she was horrified by it but she was kind to him and did care about people. She even mentioned in her interview how she made Jeff comfortable because he would open up more. Good for her though staying strong and doing what she had to do even though it was messing her up.
It’s crazy how the human mind will make up every excuse for someone to make you believe that they’re not a monster. None of these people had any idea of what he was capable of because he always seemed normal and most people just aren’t hard-wired to think about things like that. It’s unfortunate we have to change our thinking to combat with people like this, but no one is to blame but him. And maybe the police
Sorry but I am skeptical of all people. I tend to want to see the good in everyone but I can definitely tell when there's something "off" about someone
@Michael David Yeah, I mean there were SO many red flags about Jeffrey Dahmer that so many failed to notice. I mean, you don't just accept a ride from any old stranger and you DEFINITELY don't go to someone's house if they're offering you 100 bucks for nude pics that's just OFF
@@ameliastrydom3661 Yeah for sure we definitely have a radar for weirdos. I’m just saying most of these people maybe thought he was awkward or something but they probably weren’t thinking that he was actually murdering people in his apartment. After a while he made it pretty damn obvious lol but most of us DON’T want to assume that, cause it’s just something terrible to think about. I think that’s just part of the reason he got away with it for so long. This was also in the 80s/90s when people had a more mutual trust for each other compared to now.
The landlord wanted a white face as the face of his business to further his business. Jeff who portrayed to be polite and who is very articulate was the only single white male living in the area and seemed to be the perfect candidate. Jeff as the pathological, and convincing liar he is deceived and manipulated the landlord as he did with the cops and his victims. Jeff was a master manipulator. Considering that he made so many mistakes that could and should have gotten him exposed and arrested but because he was a master manipulator he smoothly talked his way out.
Bottom Line: Apt Managers need to be asked- - Would you want Yourself or Your Child living next door to this particular neighbor??!! If the answer is "no", get rid of the Tenant!
I think Dahmer would never have been caught if he lived in a house. The police were so negligent especially in the case of the 14 year old boy!!!! It's so heartbreaking that he almost got away. The neighbor lady tried so hard. All these victims deserved more! I can't believe those 2 cops didn't get fired. I would have made it my life's mission to make sure they lost their jobs. I don't know how they could have lived with themselves! Knowing they gave an innocent child back to a serial killer.
He worked in a chocolate factory that apparently made the whole neighborhood smell sweet during the day, so I’m guessing that inside of the factory, the smell of the chocolate was very strong. (?)
I think he was very clean when he went out. Maybe he showered more than one time per day? Even his father said he looked put together. I'm pretty sure he tried to cover up the smell. But what I was wondering is Jeffrey told that people were complaining about the smell that was coming from his apartment but I never heard him saying that the smell was bothering him? Did he enjoy the smell of dead bodies????
Part of the problem with accusing the people who dismissed or overlooked Dahmer's suspicious behavior is because good people don't think about others around them being "bad," and certainly not killing and storing the bodies their victims where they live. I mean, it's so easy to point fingers now that we know, but face it, it's beyond comprehension of the ordinarily straight-up, law-abiding person what Dahmer did. We are still trying to figure all out, years later, still shaking our heads, thinking WTF?? I love the question: "So you thought it would be appropriate to form a partnership with Jeffrey Dahmer?" I don't think anyone wants to have that come at them. 🤣
There is or should be a thing called instincts or unction as we call it in my culture. This is something inside you that tells you something really bad is happening and something isn't right. These, we have the duty to open our eyes to.
@@peterinasolvesit3702 oh please. How many millions of murder shows have we seen were instinct is overridden in favour of money, sex etc. How many times do people cross the street randomly and not at a crossing, while instinct is telling them not too? FOH
I think another huge thing to consider is the times, serial killers weren’t such a wide known issue, mental health issues weren’t as “normal”, homosexuality wasn’t as accepted and viewed negatively, crime wasn’t as bad back then as it is today, on and on. A lot of people these days would be very concerned of any of the signs Dahmer exhibited, but it’s only BECAUSE of stories like Dahmer’s that we recognize these signs and question further even small things. Our knowledge of mental health issues, red flags, unhealthy obsessions etc, all have lead us to second guess and recognize concerning things and behaviors. All of this new knowledge is extremely helpful, the same reasons why we no longer allow our children to go out and about the same as parents used to, yes while crime is worse, it’s also more widely known about, and just like “normal people” are becoming smarter about their safety, criminals are becoming smarter about how to commit crimes. It’s all about the times
Don't make excuses mate. It is America and to this day it is still the wild wild west. If he was black they would if smashed down the door the minute a stink came from there.
Can we please talk about how he almost became business partners with Jeffrey. He has to look back on that as devine intervention that he never went through with that. Jeffrey not only would have continued but may have become wealthy with power and access to more properties and even more victims. Horrifying!!!
Exactly. That attorney should know how to phrase her questions properly. Between her lazy phrasing of questions and the property manager having already answered her question multiple times, he responded perfectly.
I'm still shocked at how these crimes took place in an apartment where other apartments weren't too far away from his. Like, I get these things happening in houses where it'll be harder for people to hear the screams and stuff but a small apartment? That's weird. It's creepy too because me living in a current apartment building, it makes me wonder what could be going on next door 😶
I've lived in my apartment for 33 years. Early on I realized people wanted to hang out, drink, gossip, etc. I stopped that. I was always answering my door. I stopped that too. I stay to myself, am private, and I like it that way.
Damn , you start your new job & within a month you have to deal with a serial killer storing bodies right up under your nose . Then they end up tearing down the building a year and a half later . Damn , dude did SOO much damage far beyond the victims and their families , dude took lives , jobs , and homes .
I worked with a girl whose aunt lived in the same building as Dahmer. She said that you could smell an odor throughout the entire building as well as the surrounding area. Most residents moved out after he was caught. They knocked down the building soon after.
What's crazy is that I thought polices are trained to spot out the smell of rotten human flesh. I heard that rotten human flesh gave a particular smell. And there was a scene in the show where the police enter his apartment and the smell was so overwhelming they just walk out after leaving that boy back to jeffery. Ugh so frustrating!!
The smell was evident, but the police bought Jeffery's story of rotten meat in the freezer although bodies were hidden in plain sight. I believe he tried to cook the flesh off the bones by using Muriatic acid, but the acid only cooks, and will not preserve the flesh. Formaldehyde does a better job at preserving. I'm not sure what the combination of Muriatic acid smells like on human flesh. The PD would need to get a search warrant to dig deeper in his apartment. At 1st glimpse, you couldn't think he was a serial killer. He stood out like a sore thumb by living in a predominantly Black neighborhood & appeared to be decent law abiding citizen but the darkness & smell came to light.
I don't know think their ordinary officer training training involves morgue visits (my friend's dad was a Detective & was so traumatised by ond murder scene that he had mental health issues for years after ). I suppose CSI's would though: & prob a trip to the famous forensics facility called the Body Farm, where donated corpses are left outside to decay, for research purposes
The manager said in his testimony that the apartment smelled as strong chemicals. Was the odor decomposing meat or chemicals? That is what is a bit confusing for me.
If someone had an odor in their apartment that long and didn't take care of it then he I would have evicted him.....period! At that time he would be basically jeopardizing the health of others and refusing to take care of the problem after multiple complaints.
I think it was more about keeping tenants for the money ...with property manager taking up the concerns of neighbours hes following tenant and property procedures
@@mamorgansnutrimetics Yes I know but even as a tenant property management has a certain amount of time to fix any issues and after so many attempts the person would probably get another notice before someone would get the city inspector involved which I am kind of surprised that nobody did. However, I do understand that the tenants probably did not want to cause any problems with fears that they would not have anywhere to live.
Exactly. The police should have been called and without Jeffrey Dahmer's consent..search 🔍🔎 that unit. Trust me.. a Crime scene expert would have found that .. apartment was being used a a chamber of horror. SMH 😨.
Dahmer was a very intelligent man. Most serial killers have a very high IQ, just like Ted Bundy and Edmund Kemper. I can't believe Kemper is still alive although the guy is like 7' tall and killed like 20 women and his own grandparents before he was 15 and then....after being RELEASED killed his mother. Serial Killere are quick thinkers and they know how to get out of sticky situations. Dahmer fascinates me though ...was he Pure Evil or was he sick in the head for real? Makes ya wonder 🤔 RIP to all the victims 🙏 💔
There can be other explanations for bad smells. Also, I believe it was more of a chemical smell, from the acid dissolving the bodies and his apartment was otherwise well kept. I have seen a psychologist say that a normal, empathetic person will always look for other explanations, because our brains literally can’t process that level of evil. It’s unimaginable, you convince yourself there some other reason for the signs you’re seeing. It’s easy to lay blame in hindsight, but the blame sits 100% squarely on Dahmer’s shoulders.
Isn't it strange that Dahmer's defence appeared to be agitated and stammering with uncertainties to the point of confusion that she herself appeared to be not knowing her own questions? While the prosecutor was constantly collected and eloquent in his questions.
@@SamaraVidZ Didn't know that but just imagine this being your first case, right out of law school, and desperately trying to defend a monster like Jeffrey Dahmer! She was probably terrified just having to sit next to him! I know I certainly wouldn't have found it pleasant! Kudos to her for at least ATTEMPTING any kind of defense!!
@@shipleysully6711kudos to her for trying to defend a serial killer who murdered, dismembered, and ATE other humans? KUDOS? I feel like this is the epitome is what’s wrong with law. People are willing and ready to defend murderers rapists and pedophiles for the cash dollar. SICK!
What horrific crime? Because you seemed to make statements without real evidence. Jeffery Dahmer is and was an American type of crime. We have never had a Jeffery Dahmer in Nigeria. Also, the more and more Nigeria become urbanized we having crime that is not normal. During the 70s Nigeria was not urbanized so no this whole sh!t was very foreign to this man.
Lol he actually thought about goin into business with dahmer? SMH this REALLY goes to show how Jeff had them ALL fooled. His depiction in the series was obviously exaggerated. He was by all accounts a likable and unassuming guy not some strange robotic figure making everybody feel uncomfortable
There was another guy who commented that he worked in the same chocolate factory Dahmer was and Dahmer was known to be a strange guy at work and that most of the people who worked in the factory were older black men. And most of those black men considered him weird. Maybe he could turn it off and on but then again most people don't spend much time conversing with their landlord/apt manager for an extended period of time. Also people are generally more polite and respectful to people who can kick them out of their homes than to regular people or co-workers that they don't benefit anything from.
@@sarkie3927 right, I'm sure different people saw different sides of him. Also, a lot of people can feel energy....it doesn't matter how "likeable" they seem.
@@sarkie3927 but for him to go unnoticed all that time he clearly was a man who didn’t really give off any signals that much that he was Someone to be afraid of. Being Weird yes! I’m sure he was called weird and strange but being weird and strange doesn’t mean people walked around being afraid of him. That was my point
That woman in the white jacket is so confusing! Her questions are so loopy! She’s so agitating. I think this manager knew Jeff was lying about the source of the smells. But he didn’t want to be disruptive to the tenants as it would be too much paperwork to evict Jeff. I’m surprised Jeffrey didn’t harm him.
@@teatamarie As an appointed State DA (I think she was?) but if I had a choice...NO...I would not want to represent a JD of any kind. Most of these state appointed DA's that represent people like this fumble around, trying to find the slightest bit of hope in defending someone of this nature. IDT JD wanted to go thru with this but was talked into pleading guilty by insanity by his dad b/c his dad was hoping he'd at least be sent to a mental facility where he could undergo psychological help but JD said himself he was sane and knew he would keep doing it, if he just so happened to be set free, as his compulsions would never go away. There was no chance in HELL he was going to go free but the jury found him sane so off to prison he went and to his own demise!
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Change the title to his Landlord.
I do agree
Not his neighbour.
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The scary thing about Jeffrey Dahmer is there are still people living in America that are just like him, and have not been caught.....and some of them never will.
Yes u r right I think the same
And morons that idolize him, especially white women...
Its very hard to be a serial killer in this era, because of social media, no way someone can get away with that much now days, unless you're a politician.
@@jeanclaude6856 oh they are out there, they are the ones that have grown up in the social media era, and have figured out ways around it.
@@johndoe-xy4xq EXACTLY!!! People go missing every week without a trace. I don't understand why people assume there aren't much serial killers anymore or that there isn't much of them committing murders. Most serial killers aren't stupid. Surely they'll find a way to ADAPT based on modern surroundings.
Imagine you come halfway across the world, work your a$$ off to get a college degree in an unfamiliar country, work a very tough job (dealing with tenants is rough) and then you have to deal with this insanity. I hope he recovered after all this.
I hope you recover too
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Exactly.
Thank you 🙏🙏 prayers
@@jay-iy5zd Lol, and I hope you recover from your dented american ego
Who would ACTUALLY THINK that someone was eating people and storing dead people in their apartment? I'm sorry but I feel for these people because who would think that? No one in their right mind would think that straight out.
Facts lol imagine waking up one day thinking oh that smells like human liver what’s my neighbour cooking like wtf hahahah
No but you would think they would hear something.... But they never did because most people were either on drugs in gangs, drug dealers or just didn't snitch
@@gabrielguzman6018 yah cuz back in the day especially the ghettos people keep to them selves and don’t get involved especially wit police they was all still racist them times
if the smell is that bad I'd be thinking worse things.
The whole story in itself it's unbelievable. I wouldn't be able to even comprehend this happening.
Dude said that Jeffrey had the cleanest/neatest apartment he ever visited in that building compared to other residents he’d visited there…Imagine being a tenant in the same building and finding out your serial killer neighbor with various rotting corpses lying around kept a more tidy apartment than you. 😬
That was my thought too 😂
He probably cleaned up before the manager would visit. In the doc series it was a mess most of the time. I bet the victims would describe his place differently.
I can’t believe that no one apartment was cleaned. He had the only clean apartment but dude also wanted him to be a business partner. 😂
@@asterism.x If you look at the crime scene photos his sitting room looked very neat and tidy .. quite normal.
And then as time went on, when he was saying that it “just got easier to kill” is when he got a little more messy from what I could tell. He said, I think, that he had three bodies in the tub that he moved around so he could shower. It’s still hard to imagine how clean an apartment could be after that.
“Odours don’t strangle people “
I love this man 👏🏾👏🏾
LOL that woman is retarded with her phrasing, that poor bastard was likely thinking the same
I was waiting for that part of odour don’t strangle people
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it needed to be said
I love Nigerians 😂😂😂
This man gives, " say it correctly or not at all " vibes and I'm here for it.
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Exactly. i think
What kind of vibes?
Yes, he is very precise in his explanations.
Everyone faulting the manger! What about the 2 cops that walk Jeffrey and the lil boy back in the apartment?
No joke the patents of said kid should sue the snot out of the city good grief
what about Dahmer for fooling everybody? that little punk is the real problem.
The family of that boy sued and were awarded a settlement for $850,000.
@@empressamber262 I guess that makes up for their son dying a brutal death where he was raped, beheaded, eaten, and mutilated.
@@empressamber262 and....... still can't get their son back I think they would rather want their child back than the money
He seems like a decent landlord. He just wanted everyone to be comfortable and addressed tenant concerns by offering cleaning services. He even went to inspect the apartment (which most managers don’t even do). By then Dahmer, probably made it look normal. Not to mention, he was responsible for over 40 other tenants so his focus wasn’t strictly on Dahmer.
And also that he risked his life every time he went inside Jeff’s apartment (Monster’s Lair)
Well the owners should have gotten him help, because we kept coming over to the building
@@ragashankar He is lucky that he wasn't killed
@@Khadijah459 You were there?
He came off like a lazy slumlord. To your point (and his own) if majority of your tenants are complaining about this ONE tenant funking up the entire building why wouldn’t that tenant become your primary focus?? His presence was a nuisance to the building and instead of focusing on getting him out he is waxing poetical about wanting to “do business” with him. The only reason he eventually decided to evict him was because a potential tenant refused to move in because of the smell. He dgaf about the smell impacting other existing tenants despite repeated complaints but because he was starting to lose out on money he changed his tune. This man didn’t care about those other tenants. All he cared about was his bottom line: money. When I lived in apts with actual GOOD property managers they stayed on top of tenant complaints and always did their best to mitigate issues. Any strange smells reported were always thoroughly investigated if necessary, the super or maintenance was sent to check things out. This was blatant negligence.
“Odors don’t strangle people” he was annoyed with her and that comment was A1. He held himself so composed and articulate and maintained his statement and didn’t let her confuse him. He’s such an amazing guy 💜
Strangle people do have odors
Its actually a dude doing the questions. I thought it was a female too 🤣
I was getting annoyed by her too! Her questions and statements were very confusing!
@@taramay8174 above commentor is talking about the defence attorney during the cross-examination
youre all evil
Imagine being an immigrant trying to make a decent life for yourself and then having to testify in a trial against a serial killer/cannibal. Probably never imagined he would have to be witness to something like this in a first world country.
Guess he should have known in first world countries humans eat humans. The paradox of civilization!
This guy probably pack his bags and ran back to Nigeria! Told all his friends "man they eat niggas in America"😅😅😅😅
Very sad. And honestly, if I was the resident of this complex I’d most likely complain then ask to be moved to another apartment. I wouldn’t even confront dahmer. It’s crazy because his father suspected something and just brushed it off.
your comment is kinda racist
Who told you USA was a first world country ?
Juding by the enormous crime rate (let alone mass shooting) it is worse than any third world country.
The thing that stood out the most, is the fact that his story never changed, know matter how many times he was questioned. Even under this type of pressure, he remained well reserved!
When you’re telling the truth there’s no pressure! It’s always the truth
Lol ppp
@@tiffanyb4375 exactly . The sweetness of telling the truth 😮💨
😂😂😂😂
👍👍
As a landlord of two tenants who committed suicide in my units I feel for this man greatly.
Me too. I hope you was able to heal? That's a tough pill to swallow.
😳 Jeez....
Ok.
Flick boogers 🙄 lol
Another tenant killed too? Omg
Probably because you’re a shitty landlord
The only people to blame is the police smh .
The only person to blame is Jeffrey Dahmer!
...and dahmer.
Literally everyone had a hand in him continuing killing. But Dahmer is to blame bc he brutally killed 17 young men & boys.
Yes
Dumb comment
This guy is a good fellow. Just a little too forgiving. He’s got a big heart. We need more folks like this in our country
dats ryet
DATS RYET
The landlord seems to have investigated the apartment more carefully than the police.
He is the apartment manager
@@roseanne1466 and they were the police whom didn't do their job...
@@roseanne1466 so you're telling me that a police officer shouldn't check an apartment as well as a manager 🤨🤨
Obviously he didn’t because Jeff lived there for a year plus and was able to get away with his evil…. Foul smells and all.
No he didn't if that was the case he would've been caught sooner instead he let his tenants continuously complain about their neighbor's horrendous smelling apartment instead of finally kicking him out
I love the way this guy expresses himself ,it's captivating to listen to him speak such poise .
I know sweetie... isn’t it... I was thinking the same ... 😔😔😔
Mos def 😊❤
@@simonel2928 Yes indeed
Most Africans I know speaks this way! I love their English accent!
@@marydavis7978 i live around africans who speak this way and they communicate more clearly than most white people i know 🤣💀
The smell of death is horrendous...its hard for me to believe the cops wasn't familiar with it .....SMH....
I agree. It always stays with you too. Sometimes things can trigger you bringing the smell back.
I wonder how they didn’t recognize the smell either. We had someone die in our apartment building. Others haven’t seen him for a few days and we did a welfare check for him. He had passed away a few days before. The cops could smell it as soon as they got into the elevator. So idk how these cops couldn’t tell.
The police investigators tried on multiple occasions to get in and to investigate dahmer and the odors and this same apt Mgr blocked them, refused to let them in and impeded their investigations.
Have you ever smelled collard greens?!
@@ccuellar6212 yes, much like latino food - loud smelling...but none of these smell like decomposing bodies.nice try.
That’s crazy how he could look right into the face of evil and not recognize it. The devils greatest strength is being able to hide in plain sight.
That's the crazy part... I can look at him and tell he's a cannibal.
People in 2022 believe in devils, such an elementary notion. Watch out for Beezelbub, Satan, Lucifer, The Big Bad Wolf, King Kong, and The devil with the blue dress. I swear to Zeus.
What is shocking is that people actually thought the smell was rotten food. The smell of a decomposing human is nothing like food or an animal! It is so putrid you can taste it.. 🤮 You instinctively know that it is unnatural. This is horrifying and has stayed with me for years. So scary that such monsters are among us and we don't even recognize them. Everyone please be safe and hold your loved ones close.🙏🙏🙏
@@kayjay407 l believe that the odor permeated the place more strongly whenever the killer opened the barrel of chemical and decaying body waste. The mixture must have been unbearable and probably hard to define as just dead flesh since the chemical odor was also there
There is no devil
He got away with murder for so long. So terrible. Thank God for Tracy Edwards putting a stop to that Monster!
And now Tracy is a killer himself
It’s not like he was gonna keep luring men and killing them in prison. Death is easier than life in prison.
@@lilstinovevo9839 ur comment makes no sense.
You are absolutely correct!!
@@Dinglemcberryburg how doesn’t it?
This guy walked into the apartment of the most prolific serial killer in U.S history on three different occasions and lived. I think nobody here appreciates how unbelievably lucky he was.
the landlord suddenly missing would have obviously been noticed....serial killers are not stupid,,,,,,,
neighbor says to police....thet last time i saw the landlord was when i complained to him about the smell in apartment 213.......
the police goes in apt 213 and smells the same bad odour.
question is....what does the officer do at this point....call for back up....arrest him on the spot...or say nothing to see here have a nice day and go on to his next call...
He wasn’t young and appealing to Jeff sick appetite
Jeff would of never gotten this far in my neighborhood in Detroit
@@donovans6472 Looool
I wouldn't want to said it was lucky when u already in Dahmer story I only read and watch his story got me traumatized let alone those people interaction and meet him in person sick
I'm a property manager for 5 years and I can tell you, tenants and their apartments can stink for a variety of reasons. Sometimes they're just smelly guys. To suggest someone would suspect dead bodies is outrageous! Feel sorry for this man. If anyone is to blame it's the cops for letting Dahmer go.
You know damn well I’m had bodies in there slut
A human being is capable of looking into another persons eyes and seeing another human being , you can’t do that can you. aD
I lived in a second story apartment. The old man who lived in the apartment beneath mine was estranged from his family and very reclusive. He died in his apartment (with the AC turned off) in July. The body was undiscovered for days. Let me tell you, the smell of a decomposing body is not like any other odor. There’s no way it can be confused with any other smell.
Well said
@@sandee3073what do it smell like?
I feel a bit sad for this dude, I do belive he is a very genuin, honest and a good person, who doesn't want to make anyone feel mistreated. Unfortunately he got intangled in this horror story. 😕
Lol he just cared about making money. It was greed.
Yes, I too feel sorry for this man. What a horror story he and all the neighbors got entangled in without a fault of their own.
@@jamesr.g.2320 What? He did everything a normal landlord would do over a bad odor. I’ve had worse landlords at expensive apartments. They all suck. This guy managed a building in the ghetto, at least he was threatening to throw Dahmer out over the same complaints.
@@jamesr.g.2320 i mean he does own the building dumbass so of course he's about his money clown 🤡 fucc outta here tryna throw shade for someone doing his job 😂
@@LuneyTune72 yea I think he handled this situation the best he knew how. Nobody could ever Fathom Jeff had a little shop of horrors in that apartment like that. Even with that awful smell nobody could have EVER imagined the severity of this horror
This witness was very articulate even though at one point she was trying to confuse him. I understood everything he said. Crazy how this entire thing unfolded. So sad that lots of people died. May they all rest in peace
The one that escaped and lived to tell.about it (and testified) really moved me. His dignity, now he spoke, he was grace under fire. Was so glad that he has lived and hope he found his tranquility
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I agree a one ☝️ point it was very 😞
@@codybarry8204 unfortunately, the guy who escaped (Tracey Edwards) was arrested 20 years later for being involved in a man’s fatal drowning. And before the Dahmer case, he had a conviction for sexual battery against a 14 year old girl. I was disappointed and horrified to learn this….because he did come across as having a lot of poise and grace during the trial.
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If he had gone home with him, he would have LITERALLY gotten his little turkey stuffed. Uh oh, here comes Jeffrey with the turkey baster. Everybody RUN!!!!
“Odors don’t strangle people”- Princewill. 1992.
He seemed annoyed with her🤣🤣 as he should be.
Typical Nigerian man! 😂
Period
Might take your breath completely away but he's right. He seemed like he was tired of her already LOL
Yeah I don't like this cross woman she's a b
“Odors don’t strangle people.” Brilliant!
i think they can sometimes though. i was in a bus and noticed a toxic fume. i ran to the driver's door and pleaded to let us out. the driver's initial reaction was i lost my mind, but then everyone had to get out of the bus and wait for a different bus to take over. i think everyone instinctively knew the odor was lethal. it had been socal in the late 90's or there'd probably be surveillance footage of this.
They asked this poor guy the same questions like 30 times lmao
Part of that is to try to catch him in a lie. See if his answers vary.
Ig it's to make sure his story isn't changing and that he isn't lyin? Idk
And you have no idea why....
Heartbroken for everyone that was in the vicinity of Dahmer. 🙏🏽
Just imagine if Jeff would of had money to rent a house, I think he would had a longer killing spree 🤷🏻♀️
Yea I think so too. In the movie I thought he was gonna off his grandma n do just that bcuz she was always getting in the middle of his bs. Smh there are some really sick ppl in this world.
had to laugh but you are right ...he would have killed 30 or more than he did already easy
@@justdoinit2378 me too I swear if I didn't know about his case already and who all his victims were I would be so scared he would kill her
No, he was right where he wanted to be.
This man was lucky enough, he was not included in the list..
That's right
If he would have killed the landlord it would have been over right away ...he preyed on gay black men mostly because the community's of the USA do not care about gay black men ..not even in the black community's much less the white ones...
Not really it would've been to risky
Mr. Princewell, is an excellent witness and seems to be very honest and caring.
I wonder if he's still alive
@@dsp_91 I tried and tried to find info on him, as I would like to know, as well. Nothing comes up other than the book he wrote regarding Jeffrey Dahmer but another site says he's a real estate broker in Milwaukee, WI so maybe he is still living,
So many chance to catch him. Nasty smells coming from his apartment, tub of chemicals in his bedroom, different men coming but not going, noises of cutting tools, constant complaints from his neighbour to the police, Jeffrey being caught drugging people at the sauna place, the young lad roaming the streets who the police returned back to Jeffrey. Staggering how it took so long to catch him.
He was white and this was a long time ago blacks where not protected by the police it was a black club black landlord they probably were not calling cops a lot especially on a white person .. ie when the women called for the young boy look what happened
كن سنه كان مسجون جيفري دامر قبل ان يموت ؟
@@atheerralshammari598 34 years
@@atheerralshammari598 it was 2 years he was sentenced February 17, 1992 and was killed November 28, 1994.
@@jdrobinson3468 سمعت اخبار انه حي للوقت هذا هل هذا صحيح ؟
what a wonderful witness. so calm and decent and beautifully spoken
What?
@@GMarieBehindTheMask I cannot explain my comment in a more simple way sorry. get a dictionary
@@GMarieBehindTheMask are you dumb?
You mean he was perfectly COACHED
Why do people love to use terms like that, when describing black People??😂 “beautifully spoken”, “Well spoken”, “articulate”?!? What’s the opposite of that? Ugly or Poorly spoken? Bad spoken? Lol The lawyer asking questions speaks just as well… where are his compliments??
Love the Managers response
“ Odors Don’t Strangle People “ 😂
"Odors don't strangle people" I love his lil snap back 💯💯
@@madelainemadelaine2934 He did. She was trying to deviate from the case at hand. He did that to bring her back.
@@madelainemadelaine2934 yes
Death Odors come from a person being killed.
Loved his style. Simple, lucid, well thought-out replies.
The defence was poor. They were trying to prove Dahmer was insane to get lesser sentencing and there was no questions about that or reducing the credibility of the witness…
That’s bcuz they really had no defense lol. The dude confessed to killing ppl. This was just a really sad situation.
How many people do you have to eat in Milwaukee, to be declared insane? Just sayin.
What I learn from cases like this is that most of the time the defense even don’t want to be there, but they are appointed and also once the defendant confesses to the crimes, they only try to do their job that is not to get the death penalty. Even Arias case was like that. Her defense lead Kirk Nurmi later said that in an interview.
Even dhamer said himself he knew what he was doing
Right, this lady is awful. The reason defense lawyers are offensive. There was no way to save him. duh!
The way jeffery attorney attacked this poor man for being his landlord with stupid questions is absurd! She really tried bringing in another case to cover up for Jeffery’s apartment odor 🤦🏻♀️🤬🤬🤬
She was so annoying and ridiculous.
The witness is smarter than all people in the courtroom combined.
And most of the people in this comment section!
The trauma and guilt this poor guy must have felt...Jesus!!
Now, yes.
I doubt it..
I don’t get that vibe he doesn’t care about people at all
@@cindymcmillan609 I don't think he doesn't care at all...I just think that in the moment he made bad, selfish decisions and these decisions cost other people, some their lives.
Mfs should've kicked jeffs door down i wonder what y'all would have done do y'all have siblings kids ?
It’s the way he says “ De Smell ” 🤦🏽♂️🤣 he was on point with his entire presentation. Very well spoken man. I wonder if Mr. Princewell still alive&ifso how well does he feel they portrayed the Netflix series…🤔
The way they're asking him questions if he's the guilty person. 😂
Poor guy seriously
The white lady is Jeffery lawyer. She’s trying to catch him in a lie
And he didn't even care about it; he was more preoccupied with figuring out how to articulate his responses.
The landlord of the building git grilled harder than the police officers that crossed paths with the serial killer! Absolutely absurd!
Well the apt. manager had a lot more contact with the defendant than did those officers!
@@louisemcbride8681 Well the officers were much more at fault for letting Jeffrey get away with 14 year old Konerak Sinthasimphone. Those officers, were lazy, evil, liars who never got punishment for what they did. Glenda Cleveland’s niece was probably screaming at them to do their job and they didn’t listen.
Unfortunately the building was located in an undeserved community area. The city isn’t as aggressive checking apartment complexes in these areas. They can go for months or years violating city regulations until an accident or a Dahmer happens… Sad but true, I worked with contractors for years and they do some crazy unsafe things to prevent themselves from spending money. Covering mold, covering asbestos, ignoring complains and just doing quick fixes that eventually cause bigger problems and cause Healt issues to the renters.
Yeah it was a sketchy area
This landlord definitely has a American dream to tell about.
Lol 😅
😅😅😅
😭😂
i like the way he talks, very confident very honest 🙏🏽
If the smell was that bad how did he keep getting visitors?!! They said it smelled from the front of the house. I couldn’t imagine going to someone apartment and the front smelled that bad and getting closer to a apartment that the smell was coming from.
Some people are jus nasty especially in lower housing community’s people tend to kneel to them selves rather than get invovled personally especially when the guy was a white man
Did you actually research this case? He targeted young, economically disenfranchised people with promises of money and whatever else. He preyed on sex workers, poor people of color, a deaf person, etc. It's not that hard to understand why this happened.
A smell like that I wouldn’t of drank nothing no cap
Jesus almost every person in the entire building complained about the smell 😳 can't believe he wasn't booted out long before he was caught
He was given 2 warnings and told the 3rd time he would be evicted. That’s pretty standard. Also evicting someone isn’t easily done.
Cause he is white
Exactly. Definitely sounds like they should have threatened him with eviction!!!
@@newwave2705 from what I read he only evicted Dahmer because he didn't pay rent not because of the odors.
@@newwave2705No he only got evicted because he didn't pay rent
Better audio in -92 than in many courtrooms today.
Jeff unfortunately got a pass because he was in a predominantly black area smh .
He sure did. Jeffrey chose to live in that location for that reason.
@@empressamber262 no its cause he was broke
@empressamber262 no, he had no money WHERE do you think he could live ? Be logical, man.
He was more attracted to black men as well
Wow! Never thought about that😮
14:53 “A very strong chemical smell hit me so I had to move quickly backward and told him that must go” 👈🏿👈🏿 had me that line 😂😂😂😂😂😂
like a robot - THAT. MUST. GO.
It was good he didn’t bludgeon this man go checking his apartment
Maybe he wasn't trimmed at that time.
This is arguably the best documented case
This guy is awesome and a great landlord . Glad that he is safe .
No. He was covering for this murderer.
@@sakhu8945 😮he wasn't 😢 stop assuming dumbest 🙄 comment
I feel for this building manager. You can tell he cared for his tenants, and for this to happen around him must have been devastating. I'm also sure he was relieved he didn't go into any business with Dahmer, surely would have ended up in a more crazy situation
He cared about the money! 🙄😑
@@tiana2906 who don’t care about money
He was the building manager not the landlord.
@@lisa115 Sorry correct, figure of speech!
There are many killers who run profitable businesses!😄😄😄
I feel so bad for Jeffrey Dahmer's lawyer . This was her first case I believe and she was just thrown into and was still new and people were attacking her outside of work . She didn't agree with what he did and she was horrified by it but she was kind to him and did care about people. She even mentioned in her interview how she made Jeff comfortable because he would open up more. Good for her though staying strong and doing what she had to do even though it was messing her up.
I don't feel sorry for this woman. She has perceived money from Netflix documentaries...not the victims from Netflix, ever the familles's victims
Please
She was "Clarisse".💀 Jody Foster.🎭
I couldn’t be 20 years old defending a damn monster. I’m not gone do it.
@@CarsonDouglas-pw7nz it's Wendy Patrickus she was 25 at that time in 1991
It’s crazy how the human mind will make up every excuse for someone to make you believe that they’re not a monster. None of these people had any idea of what he was capable of because he always seemed normal and most people just aren’t hard-wired to think about things like that. It’s unfortunate we have to change our thinking to combat with people like this, but no one is to blame but him. And maybe the police
Sorry but I am skeptical of all people. I tend to want to see the good in everyone but I can definitely tell when there's something "off" about someone
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Even when you think someone is a bad person how do you prove it. Cops don't do anything because of an evil look
@Michael David Yeah, I mean there were SO many red flags about Jeffrey Dahmer that so many failed to notice. I mean, you don't just accept a ride from any old stranger and you DEFINITELY don't go to someone's house if they're offering you 100 bucks for nude pics that's just OFF
@@ameliastrydom3661 Yeah for sure we definitely have a radar for weirdos. I’m just saying most of these people maybe thought he was awkward or something but they probably weren’t thinking that he was actually murdering people in his apartment. After a while he made it pretty damn obvious lol but most of us DON’T want to assume that, cause it’s just something terrible to think about. I think that’s just part of the reason he got away with it for so long. This was also in the 80s/90s when people had a more mutual trust for each other compared to now.
The landlord wanted a white face as the face of his business to further his business. Jeff who portrayed to be polite and who is very articulate was the only single white male living in the area and seemed to be the perfect candidate. Jeff as the pathological, and convincing liar he is deceived and manipulated the landlord as he did with the cops and his victims. Jeff was a master manipulator. Considering that he made so many mistakes that could and should have gotten him exposed and arrested but because he was a master manipulator he smoothly talked his way out.
Glad somebody said it...but remember it's easy to manipulate a person who wants to be manipulated.
thats what alot of advertisers and marketers do in the USA and the whole world they put white faces on their products
I said the same thing
I said the same thing , the landlord dismissed ALL of the warning signs, because he wanted something from JD.
Exactly and his victims were blk@thatsnonsense2907
He knew he could get away with this in a black neighborhood
Why is having a big blue container in your room seem not out of the norm!?!?!!!! 🥴
I like this Nigerian fella. Seems like a nice person. Wish he was my landlord.
He cant be blamed at all, no one thinks their residant cooks people.
Exactly
This guy is incompetent. He impeded investigations when the police investigators kept coming over.
That's right
I knew it. His accent is unmistakable.
“Odors don’t strangle people” mic drop
I felt that 😅
Bottom Line: Apt Managers need to be asked- - Would you want Yourself or Your Child living next door to this particular neighbor??!! If the answer is "no", get rid of the Tenant!
100000000000000000000%
I think Dahmer would never have been caught if he lived in a house. The police were so negligent especially in the case of the 14 year old boy!!!! It's so heartbreaking that he almost got away. The neighbor lady tried so hard. All these victims deserved more! I can't believe those 2 cops didn't get fired. I would have made it my life's mission to make sure they lost their jobs. I don't know how they could have lived with themselves! Knowing they gave an innocent child back to a serial killer.
It's called 'white privilege', something you benefit from each day.
@@RexBanner_ bruh shut up she is on our side stop projecting.😂
Business partner. Man you are lucky not to go into business with him.
He would have became "the business". Simple.
@@samfisher2306 yeah, the main course 🤣😂
“That must go” -Princewill.1992
😂😂
Also I wanna know how did Dahmer not go to work smelling terrible?
He worked in a chocolate factory that apparently made the whole neighborhood smell sweet during the day, so I’m guessing that inside of the factory, the smell of the chocolate was very strong. (?)
Exactly!....Making chocolates, too!
I think he was very clean when he went out. Maybe he showered more than one time per day? Even his father said he looked put together. I'm pretty sure he tried to cover up the smell. But what I was wondering is Jeffrey told that people were complaining about the smell that was coming from his apartment but I never heard him saying that the smell was bothering him? Did he enjoy the smell of dead bodies????
@@Daisy_Dobby yeah but what about when he carried his victims heads to work in his bag 😮
@@Lo2smoove I thought it was a skull? So without the flesh? I don't know...I guess skulls don't smell bad?
He considered Dahmer as a potential business partner? Dahmer getting more job offers than me.
Lol the crazies always know how to climb the opportunity ladder
🤣😂
I was thinking the same 💀
This was obviously before he knew Dahmer was a serial killer
And had more male 304s than FIGUEROA
This man is a good man. A good landlord. He is certainly not responsible for not identifying that his tenant is a homicidal maniac.
Part of the problem with accusing the people who dismissed or overlooked Dahmer's suspicious behavior is because good people don't think about others around them being "bad," and certainly not killing and storing the bodies their victims where they live. I mean, it's so easy to point fingers now that we know, but face it, it's beyond comprehension of the ordinarily straight-up, law-abiding person what Dahmer did. We are still trying to figure all out, years later, still shaking our heads, thinking WTF?? I love the question: "So you thought it would be appropriate to form a partnership with Jeffrey Dahmer?" I don't think anyone wants to have that come at them. 🤣
There is or should be a thing called instincts or unction as we call it in my culture. This is something inside you that tells you something really bad is happening and something isn't right. These, we have the duty to open our eyes to.
@@peterinasolvesit3702 oh please. How many millions of murder shows have we seen were instinct is overridden in favour of money, sex etc. How many times do people cross the street randomly and not at a crossing, while instinct is telling them not too? FOH
I think another huge thing to consider is the times, serial killers weren’t such a wide known issue, mental health issues weren’t as “normal”, homosexuality wasn’t as accepted and viewed negatively, crime wasn’t as bad back then as it is today, on and on. A lot of people these days would be very concerned of any of the signs Dahmer exhibited, but it’s only BECAUSE of stories like Dahmer’s that we recognize these signs and question further even small things. Our knowledge of mental health issues, red flags, unhealthy obsessions etc, all have lead us to second guess and recognize concerning things and behaviors. All of this new knowledge is extremely helpful, the same reasons why we no longer allow our children to go out and about the same as parents used to, yes while crime is worse, it’s also more widely known about, and just like “normal people” are becoming smarter about their safety, criminals are becoming smarter about how to commit crimes. It’s all about the times
Don't make excuses mate. It is America and to this day it is still the wild wild west. If he was black they would if smashed down the door the minute a stink came from there.
@@WiddleMousie you explained this so perfectly
Can we please talk about how he almost became business partners with Jeffrey. He has to look back on that as devine intervention that he never went through with that. Jeffrey not only would have continued but may have become wealthy with power and access to more properties and even more victims. Horrifying!!!
This tenant was very good at keeping calm and answering questions clearly
“Odors don’t strangle people”😂F*cking awesome!🤣
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Exactly. That attorney should know how to phrase her questions properly. Between her lazy phrasing of questions and the property manager having already answered her question multiple times, he responded perfectly.
The attorney was confusing him and was too fast i laughed when he said odours don’t strangle people 😂😂. It’s draining answering same thing over again
The odor was coming from that dead body
I'm still shocked at how these crimes took place in an apartment where other apartments weren't too far away from his. Like, I get these things happening in houses where it'll be harder for people to hear the screams and stuff but a small apartment? That's weird. It's creepy too because me living in a current apartment building, it makes me wonder what could be going on next door 😶
I've lived in my apartment for 33 years. Early on I realized people wanted to hang out, drink, gossip, etc. I stopped that. I was always answering my door. I stopped that too. I stay to myself, am private, and I like it that way.
He drugged them before killing so there were no screams
@@ducejohnson21 what about the foul oders?
@@dangercat9188 now that I don’t understand
Omymy I thought about the same thing in my own buildings hahahahhah never know what happened next doors.
I understand she’s just doing her job but damn it’s so obvious (now) what the odors were. She’s looking like she’s definitely trying to confuse him.
She was asking him the same questions. Trying to trip him
These are better then the Netflix movie 🍿🍿🍿
Really is it’s just more evidence being explained.
Really is it’s just more evidence being explained.
Damn , you start your new job & within a month you have to deal with a serial killer storing bodies right up under your nose . Then they end up tearing down the building a year and a half later . Damn , dude did SOO much damage far beyond the victims and their families , dude took lives , jobs , and homes .
Just think if he rented a house and not a apartment we would of been talking even more murders
His father had a house with 2 acres,can you imagine.
I worked with a girl whose aunt lived in the same building as Dahmer. She said that you could smell an odor throughout the entire building as well as the surrounding area. Most residents moved out after he was caught. They knocked down the building soon after.
This man was basically inside Dahmer's bedroom closet and lived to tell about it. I think he got extremely lucky.
Extremely luck he could have been a dead meat if he interfere in Jeffery business 😕
But he couldn't risk killing his apartment manager, that would draw attention to him, most likely.
14:58 “a very strong chemical smell hit me, so I had to move quickly backward and told him 👉🏾that must go “ 😂😂
I died 😂
That line had me 😂😂😂😂
Omg😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Odors do not strangle people “. I’m making that into a bumper sticker
🤣💯👍🏻
Why are you doing this as if it's funny no need for bumper stickers would you do that if your brother were killed 😡
You are evil
What's crazy is that I thought polices are trained to spot out the smell of rotten human flesh. I heard that rotten human flesh gave a particular smell. And there was a scene in the show where the police enter his apartment and the smell was so overwhelming they just walk out after leaving that boy back to jeffery. Ugh so frustrating!!
The smell was evident, but the police bought Jeffery's story of rotten meat in the freezer although bodies were hidden in plain sight. I believe he tried to cook the flesh off the bones by using Muriatic acid, but the acid only cooks, and will not preserve the flesh. Formaldehyde does a better job at preserving. I'm not sure what the combination of Muriatic acid smells like on human flesh. The PD would need to get a search warrant to dig deeper in his apartment. At 1st glimpse, you couldn't think he was a serial killer. He stood out like a sore thumb by living in a predominantly Black neighborhood & appeared to be decent law abiding citizen but the darkness & smell came to light.
I don't know think their ordinary officer training training involves morgue visits (my friend's dad was a Detective & was so traumatised by ond murder scene that he had mental health issues for years after ). I suppose CSI's would though: & prob a trip to the famous forensics facility called the Body Farm, where donated corpses are left outside to decay, for research purposes
Exactly! Every show I’ve watched, they say that the smell is so distinct and that you recognize it right away.
The manager said in his testimony that the apartment smelled as strong chemicals. Was the odor decomposing meat or chemicals? That is what is a bit confusing for me.
@@lisa115 It was probably the smell of a chemical cooking the flesh as it was decomposing. I'd say it was both.
If someone had an odor in their apartment that long and didn't take care of it then he I would have evicted him.....period! At that time he would be basically jeopardizing the health of others and refusing to take care of the problem after multiple complaints.
I think it was more about keeping tenants for the money ...with property manager taking up the concerns of neighbours hes following tenant and property procedures
Then you would be a competent landlord.
@@mamorgansnutrimetics Yes I know but even as a tenant property management has a certain amount of time to fix any issues and after so many attempts the person would probably get another notice before someone would get the city inspector involved which I am kind of surprised that nobody did. However, I do understand that the tenants probably did not want to cause any problems with fears that they would not have anywhere to live.
He took care of the smell till the following year, dahmer was deceptive
Exactly. The police should have been called and without Jeffrey Dahmer's consent..search 🔍🔎 that unit. Trust me.. a Crime scene expert would have found that .. apartment was being used a a chamber of horror. SMH 😨.
Jeffrey put all his skill points in speech and luck
He really did 😂😂😂
Much like Hitler. Both had many close calls.
@@kina18 the only difference is hitler talked his way to trick a whole country.
Him and Walter white!!
Dahmer was a very intelligent man. Most serial killers have a very high IQ, just like Ted Bundy and Edmund Kemper. I can't believe Kemper is still alive although the guy is like 7' tall and killed like 20 women and his own grandparents before he was 15 and then....after being RELEASED killed his mother.
Serial Killere are quick thinkers and they know how to get out of sticky situations.
Dahmer fascinates me though ...was he Pure Evil or was he sick in the head for real?
Makes ya wonder 🤔
RIP to all the victims 🙏 💔
His testimony is very fluent, clear and concise bravo!!
I can't imagine smelling something rotting/smelling and police not doing anything, but clearly they didn't give two f#@^*
There can be other explanations for bad smells. Also, I believe it was more of a chemical smell, from the acid dissolving the bodies and his apartment was otherwise well kept.
I have seen a psychologist say that a normal, empathetic person will always look for other explanations, because our brains literally can’t process that level of evil. It’s unimaginable, you convince yourself there some other reason for the signs you’re seeing.
It’s easy to lay blame in hindsight, but the blame sits 100% squarely on Dahmer’s shoulders.
It was the projects
And he was white. If this were coming out of a black person's apartment he wouldn't of had such patience nor asked him to do business.
Dumb comment
Because of the neighborhood
I dIdNT mEaN tO cOnFuSe YoU. Yes tf she did trying to cling on to anything she could to come out with some type of win . He really stood his ground !
Facts
Why didn't he evict him after numerous warnings??...
Isn't it strange that Dahmer's defence appeared to be agitated and stammering with uncertainties to the point of confusion that she herself appeared to be not knowing her own questions? While the prosecutor was constantly collected and eloquent in his questions.
she was horrible
She appears to be not listening and repeating questions that were asked before. Also, the questions were poorly worded. She sucks.
@@JayLoudTv To be fair it was literally her first case as a 25 year old out of law school
@@SamaraVidZ Didn't know that but just imagine this being your first case, right out of law school, and desperately trying to defend a monster like Jeffrey Dahmer! She was probably terrified just having to sit next to him! I know I certainly wouldn't have found it pleasant! Kudos to her for at least ATTEMPTING any kind of defense!!
@@shipleysully6711kudos to her for trying to defend a serial killer who murdered, dismembered, and ATE other humans? KUDOS? I feel like this is the epitome is what’s wrong with law. People are willing and ready to defend murderers rapists and pedophiles for the cash dollar. SICK!
how could his lawyers even sit next to him?
💲💲💲💲
Aweful, I can see disgust at times on the ladies faces
I mean nobody would ever imagine what he was doing even if it smelled but he should have been kicked out or checked way before
Immediate EVICTION if your apartment stinks bad enough to permeate an entire building.
31:01 “Odors don’t strangle people “🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌I’m dead
This dude was not a landlord. He was the property manager. He did not own the property he wark for the company who own the building.
Yes,I don't get why so many comments are calling him the landlord.Landlord and building manager....2 totally different meanings
Poor guy
Emigrated to America
Only to have to be Jeff Ds
Landlord
My
god
Can you imagine?
The Horror
Well his Nigerian, you hear horrific crimes there too! but I get your point.
@@KainSwiss i guess i mean he was leaving all that
Coming to Wisconsin lol
@@lovepet4565 Yeah so true
What horrific crime? Because you seemed to make statements without real evidence. Jeffery Dahmer is and was an American type of crime. We have never had a Jeffery Dahmer in Nigeria. Also, the more and more Nigeria become urbanized we having crime that is not normal. During the 70s Nigeria was not urbanized so no this whole sh!t was very foreign to this man.
I know
He seems like a nice man
This dude wanted to be in business with a serial killer?????? Man, everyone was blind as hell with this dude
Maybe it was the devil temting him 😁 you know nigerian love money
@@nadinemoniz3705 silly comment
Lol he actually thought about goin into business with dahmer? SMH this REALLY goes to show how Jeff had them
ALL fooled. His depiction in the series was obviously exaggerated. He was by all accounts a likable and unassuming guy not some strange robotic figure making everybody feel uncomfortable
There was another guy who commented that he worked in the same chocolate factory Dahmer was and Dahmer was known to be a strange guy at work and that most of the people who worked in the factory were older black men. And most of those black men considered him weird. Maybe he could turn it off and on but then again most people don't spend much time conversing with their landlord/apt manager for an extended period of time. Also people are generally more polite and respectful to people who can kick them out of their homes than to regular people or co-workers that they don't benefit anything from.
@@sarkie3927 right, I'm sure different people saw different sides of him. Also, a lot of people can feel energy....it doesn't matter how "likeable" they seem.
@@sarkie3927 but for him to go unnoticed all that time he clearly was a man who didn’t really give off any signals that much that he was Someone to be afraid of. Being Weird yes! I’m sure he was called weird and strange but being weird and strange doesn’t mean people walked around being afraid of him. That was my point
It's annoying, because our of any serial killer, Dahmer would have been the one to play completely straight - but they had to exaggerate it.
Exactly! Guy was polite, normal, well spoken like in his interviews and the series made him into some autistic weirdo that he never was. lol
That woman in the white jacket is so confusing! Her questions are so loopy! She’s so agitating. I think this manager knew Jeff was lying about the source of the smells. But he didn’t want to be disruptive to the tenants as it would be too much paperwork to evict Jeff. I’m surprised Jeffrey didn’t harm him.
Jeffrey had no interest in killing anyone he wasn’t sexually attracted to.
Jeff always chose strangers, probably a bad idea to kill off his own landlord.
She knew there was no winning this case I’d be a wreck too how do you represent someone like this
He wasn’t attracted to him and it’s his land lord. He was into young and very attractive men.
@@teatamarie As an appointed State DA (I think she was?) but if I had a choice...NO...I would not want to represent a JD of any kind. Most of these state appointed DA's that represent people like this fumble around, trying to find the slightest bit of hope in defending someone of this nature. IDT JD wanted to go thru with this but was talked into pleading guilty by insanity by his dad b/c his dad was hoping he'd at least be sent to a mental facility where he could undergo psychological help but JD said himself he was sane and knew he would keep doing it, if he just so happened to be set free, as his compulsions would never go away. There was no chance in HELL he was going to go free but the jury found him sane so off to prison he went and to his own demise!
This all kind of opens your eyes as to why he got away so long with these awful crimes.