GRUESOME FINDS at Deadman's Island - Hovercraft History Hunters
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Medical professional here. For those who are curious, I had a ton of fun ID'ing them for you guys!
13:35 - fragment of a fibula
19:10 - 1st metatarsal
21:00 - fragment of a tibia
21:23 - femur
22:45 - fibula (not a child's, luckily!)
24:14 - humerus
24:25 - scapula (mostly intact)
24:57 - skull fragment (hole is the foramen magnum)
26:28 - pelvis (pubis, likely male)
26:56 - femur
27:10 - humerus and ulna (very likely from the same arm!)
27:14 - fragment of a femur (most definitely a child's)
27:21 - fragment of a pelvis
27:30 - a horse's 3rd metatarsal
27:50 - femur (that one could have possibly been a preteen/teenager's or just someone very petite)
28:03 - fragment of a tibia (that one's from a pretty damn big dude)
28:12 - 2nd rib
28:13 - fragment of a humerus
28:35 - fragment of a tibia
28:45 - fragment of a radius
28:54 - femur
31:01 - mandible
32:00 - tibia
32:02 - radius and femur (someone very short)
32:10 - mostly ribs and tibias, child's mandible
32:41 - fibula, rib, and mandible
32:54 - fragment of a femur
33:00 - humerus
33:04 - tibia
33:09 - two ulnas
33:18 - rib and tibia
33:23 - ulna
33:30 - skull, scapula, or pelvic fragment (I'm unsure, but leaning toward pelvis because it's so thick)
34:19 - various ribs, tibias, radiuses, ulnas, fibulas, femurs, humeruses, and mandibles (including a child's)
34:40 - part of an ulna (the radius and ulna look quite twisty and odd, especially if they're in pieces)
34:49 - tibia
35:00 - tibia
36:20 - humerus
37:29 - mandible, deformed (syphilis vs congenital vs other)
37:35 - mandible, likely congenital deformation
38:43 - fragment of a sacrum (the holes are for a large network of nerves to pass through. Not sure about arthritis, though. It's so damaged I don't think anyone could tell)
Thank you so much for putting this up, guys! I found it fascinating and I hope that ID'ing some of the remains helps give a little human identity back to these poor souls. May their next life be better than the last.
Thanks
Thank u for your knowledge doc
amazing thank you.
Awesome
I’m only up to 16:53. I will come back and index once I get there. I feel that all these bones should be brought back and have a decent burial. It’s sad that all these (once humans) are just left.
And the evil of this world. Still they steal kids from institutions and do human sacrifices in this day and age. Sick. 😡
Two types of people in this world
"I'm not touching that" and
"It's not gonna hurt you"
lol
Two types of people in this world. Avoid both.
You mean those that have respect, and those that won't keep on touching shit they shouldn't be? The disrespect with which he handles those remains makes me wince. And watching him callously crush that poor little bloody crab tossing things around (he always tosses things, never places, even the human remains he'll look like he's about to place it respectfully then tosses it the last few inches, it's just so hamfisted) then as if hinging a plank on it's legs wasn't bad enough he fucking treads on it. Brainless. Utterly brainless.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 Uh-oh. We've got Dr. Morality on our hands. Because he is the morality police...listen to him!!! Then show him your papers! Heil!
3 if their dead and in their final resting places leave them be don't disrespect it
I’m british and live near Kent but I’ve never heard of dead mans island ! I never knew a place like this could be in the UK. This is amazing
I'm British too and never heard of it either. I live in Dagenham.
I’d feel pretty good someone was lookin at my bones thinking bout who I was
As long as it’s not C.S.I
You probably wouldn't feel that good
This is Awful something needs to be done about this. People should Rest in Peace.
@@richardmillican7733 oh no my Browser history
@@Rickytickybobbywobby lol I’m forgotten now
It's heartbreaking. That there's no value in them, that they're not in a museum, that they're not reburried, that their remains are strewn about with debris and trash washed up in the surf. They had no value when alive, and no value when dead. I am thankful to have seen this. It definitely brings more awareness to it, and to how things used to be. There are quite a few bones that don't look adult here. I wish some of those kids had found and made better lives for themselves. But I suppose we all end up bones in the end.
Get what youre saying but look at it this way... this was from a long time ago and theres quite a lot of humans on Earth and at some point all of our bones will need to be reclaimed by the elements.
They're not in the mud, they're with God 🙂
@@dropin777 or in hell depending.
@@MrJerry101 lol
wtf who has value when they're dead anyway. All very sentimental but there were billions of humans before us and there will be billions more after us. We are totally insignificant.
The people buried there have rested in peace, they are in a place no one disturbs and have slowly returned to nature , I'd rather be buried there than in a cemetery by a busy road in a town.
100 years later people ganna touch ur bones to
@@hi4174 They're gonna make fun of your teeth so make them presentable!
Put that in your will
I agree. I'd rather decay and return to nature than to have my remains set into a vault in the ground for eternity. This is how nature works, it takes back.
Those people were never burried, they were slaves that were ill and were just thrown there.
So sad, all those lost souls. You're right Si, they deserve a burial :(
This is crazy. Never saw anything like this on TH-cam before.
URBEX AND CHILL Thank!
Same here!
Got directed here from a lady that dies mudlarking in the Themes. The things she finds. I’m thinking about taking my son to the mouth of the River Tyne.
You mean hovercraft drifting??
@@Sifinds a bit off topic. but i like your watch lol.
Great video, Si. Thank you for shedding light on this dark part of history and for giving those poor people a voice in the modern age. They should not be forgotten.
Joe C. Thanks Joe!
Am I the only one who also felt sad for the horse?
How horrible those prison ships must have been and it's so sad to think that children were in them.
Why am I watching someone try to piece together two pieces of someone’s skull like a puzzle..
Y not 😂🤔
I don't know but theres probably help avalaible for it somewhere on the internet.
OMG! Were we all just doing that? LMFAO!! You're my favorite question, "Why am I watching?" Thanks for that, btw.
Bone idle for a while , don't watch too long or you may end up skint , short on funny bones , , great stuff guys and treated with respect as well as interested curiosity thanks .
I'm super happy that they're so respectful when it came to the bones, they made sure they put them back where they were found.
The bone at 39:03 is a human sacrum (five vertebrae that fuse together by the time we reach our teens). The human body is amazing!
It would be cool if they could get DNA from those teeth and track down close relatives for burials or just remembrance.
lisa caron to be honest I doubt the distance relatives couldn’t care less
Your suggestion is ... pure genius
it is too costly for someone to actually do it.. charity org donation maybe..
lisa caron
dental records
@@marcferretti Exacly what I was thinking..
Crazy to see how bones are helping the creatures have a home & how bones don't decay for centuries
I think there should be a paranormal investigation of this place mate.
I need to move to a place that has some ACTUAL history so I can do stuff like this. Oldest stuff I find is circa 1970
geo oldest thing I have is my house
I live in the south west of the UK, theres alot of mining history where i am from aswell as some maritime! I also live in a house from the 1800s and we have all the deeds, with the earliest from the early 1910s.
It's quite cool to be in a place where there is so much history!
Study modern history then....
Luckily I live in Edinburgh and u find bones in cemeteries all the time
I’m an archaeologist in the northwest coast of Canada and work on First Nations sites which are completely extraordinary in their own right, but just the amount of old STUFF in a small area that people can find in London is mind blowing.
I've just come across your video, and I'm absolutely in awe of what you do. You've gone to these places of historical interest, and used an everyday point of view. Thank you so much for the way you've done this, treated the site with respect, and not just took everything you found as a sort of trophy. I'm hooked. Please keep the vids coming. Love it 👍
Thanks Sandy! Spot on there
I agree!
Sorry just browsing through your old videos, wow Steve with short hair, and the hovercrafting looks so much fun
My convict 4th great-grandfather was on a prison hulk for a short time before being transported to Australia. The finds on the island may be gruesome but also a bit interesting, thank you for showing us this bit of history
One of my early ancestors was deported from Quebec to Australia after the french uprising against the British. He spent three years there then some how made it back to Quebec! I would not want to go to sea on one of those wooden boats, yikes
The bones you discover around the 37-38 min mark appear to be from someone who may have had some type of syndrome, looking at the over elongated jaw line and shortened mandible with maligned teeth. Would not surprise me if people with disability would be in this lot. God rest their souls.
I love it when people add a little extra insight thanx dawn
Dawn Garratt looks like mandibular prognathism, otherwise known as Habsburg jaw. It’s a sign of inbreeding
Yes I watched. If no one watched you may as well fold up your Vid. What with watching ha to do with respect ???.
It could also be evidence of a disease such as tertiary Syphilis or neurosyphilis...the latter of which in particular had the potential to drive a person mad
nephilim had elongated jaw bones with double rows of teeth
Hi. I’ve just found these videos and have been binge watching for the weekend. My 5th great grandfather was imprisoned on the hulk ship fortitude. He was sentenced to 14years for stealing 5 Bushels of wheat in 1834! He had 5 children to feed and ended up being transported to New South Wales. So glad he never ended up on this island.
Thank you for teaching me something new. I'm sure it was a little uncomfortable for you at first but this was an important story to be told, for those of us who weren't very familiar.
Thanks Angela!
You Guessed it Guys - The Last Bone you showed is the Sacral Vertebra (yes they are fused in the body), the little holes are where the Sacral nerves would have come out and attach to tissue. This bone is just before the Coccyx (tail bone). Thanks !
You never know what you will learn here. Thanks
A constant reminder how short life is and how fast a few hundred years can be in a grand scheme of time. Enjoy your time on earth people.
Russell Siete amen to that!
@ 11:54 Nolet Schiedam Holland. Genever bottle, genever, the British call it Gin. Late 17th begin 18th century. As a man born in Schiedam, its a nice artifact
Love how the bloke is chugging down on a dart while he takes the hovercraft for a “test run”. Authentic. 🚬
... and smoking while he moves the fuel can!
captainfrank01 typical geezar, no time to pussyfoot.
Hi there Si - So I would imagine that witnessing this was a very moving experience. How very disturbing that knowing that some of these souls were children doing their best to survive during desperate times . Thank you Si for bringing this to light and sharing.
Thanks Lynn! You've taken it in the way it was intended, sharing and documenting this area
Si- Just would like to add I am always excited seeing your mudlark vids and more than slightly jealous. I love artifacts and history and always when touching something from the past the 5 W's ( who , what , etc.) Then I fall in love with the mystery of it. So I can understand where your passions lie. I live in a rather protected historic area and am hoping that I will find that "something" either metal detecting or combing the local beaches. Good on ya for doing what you do and sharing.
@@Sifinds very interesting content I subscribe but I just got back from Edinburgh ghost hunt in a old churchyard for bloody George mc kenzie plague victims do come to surface too but you would love that tour go for it 💀👻👻🐺🐾👍
Oh Si, what have you done to me? This is truly heartbreaking! It gives new meaning to Les Mis. I wish you could have lit the candle in respect, but you did report the remains though so that’s good. Take Care.
Looks quite mundane in the summer sunlight but imagine being there in the winter with the sea mist swirling around!
That's one creepy place!
At 25:33 'That's mental' putting a skull back together :D lol
This is sad. To think anyone let alone a child’s bones are scattered in mud to be washed away and forgotten with no dignity in life or death. You have made us remember times were very very hard and living was hard and unforgiving even for young babes
I think that it would be interesting to find one of those labs that do ancient DNA and see if they can be identified through something like Ancestry DNA or other services.
Ancestry does not do ancient DNA. Archaeological labs do and there are companies that have the data in their databases and if you have had your's done then you can compare but not as if you are family. Such as, I know I share DNA with Vikings and Inuit who died on Greenland.
@@fishinwidow35 there are several labs where you can upload DNA riles and compare them to archaeological recovered DNA.
@@philipbutler6608 That's what I said,
Fascinating video guys! Something very melancholy about it. I agree those exposed remains should be given a final resting place. They lived such sad unlucky lives.
Just found your channel today- much love from Rhode Island, USA!
Linda Bealer Welcome Linda!
I was really impressed by the amount of respect you showed for those unfortunate people.
None of it was particularly respectful. The island is an SSSI - Site of special scientific interest and people shouldn't be going there. They took items and messed around with human remains.
What a hard, cruel life those people must have led. This leaves me sad that they aren't able to find any dignity even in death.
When I am dead, I hope to have used everything my bones had to offer. That the curves and twists in my bones will show that I could throw a 300 lb welder into the back of a pickup.
I hope an archeologist finds me in a few thousand years,. and wonders what tortures I must have endured.
they didnt know that life was so hard , because they never saw how good we live now!.
plus therapy have made suffering ten times worse now because people are made to think about their suffering too much!
@torrace12 they were prisoners serving their sentences locked up below deck on a boat offshore in filthy, inhumane conditions ... do you really think they needed a glimpse of 21st century life in order to know that theirs was a hard, merciless lot???
David MacD that was a cool thing to say. I get ya. I’m an automotive a guy and the hands and back will tell a story
Marcel Audubon I have to agree. Not to mention when they lived back in London, they were definitely aware of the wealthy who had life easy. Also the middle class that had life better than them. They knew.
Important to share the history. That way we never forget. It's always bothered me when I see an improper burial of any creature, especially human. There definitely needs to be some type of memorial erected for such loss of life. Thank you for sharing Sci!
Thank you for sensitively showing us this,I never knew it was there, my 3rd GG was on Convict Hulk in Portsmouth, he got transported on the Oriental Queen to Tasmania for stealing Peas.
Great stuff. Air boat looks like a blast ! Thanks for taking us along on your adventures
Thanks for joining us!
When did they start using the prison hulk's? Two of my Great Great Granddad's were sent to America in the mid 1700's as child prisoners. Both ended up fighting against there country of birth in the American revolution.
27:34 - Tiny crab tries to run for it. Gets squashed under giant hunk of wood. Then trod on. RIP little guy. :( We didn't even know his name. :'(
His name was Dr Lex Winter. He was reincarnated as an abusive, arrogant miserable critical commenter on TH-cam videos.
This is glorious. Amazingly interesting and very well done. I'm hooked on your channel now ❤
Me too!
The spare rib banter... priceless 😂
OMG! Right before you showed the I'm assuming is a pile of bones, an ad popped in of a Ghost for Organ donors. That was weird. Lol
Thanks for watching. Did I find a possible murder weapon? >>> th-cam.com/video/p0zTouttWDQ/w-d-xo.html
Loca PPP p
A lot of the prison hulks on medway also housed rebels from America, there's loads of grave sites around medway ro do with the hulks
I am wondering, is there any effort being done to remove those remains? I mean, they used to be a person, shouldn't they be treated with a bit more dignity than being left there?
You are right, there are no words to describe what you have found. You have shown respect for these people, and we thank you for it. Your videos are amazing, I enjoy your narrative and bits of history.
Your channel is getting better and bigger. Nice drone footage and new ideas. I like the hovercraft usage. Great job.
Thanks! I'm like trying to mix it up, something different from time to time. Thank you for your support!
Great stuff. Wish the sound quality was a bit better though, rough to hear at points.
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The wooden stakes tell anyone with a boat, that when the tides out this will be dry land.
So if you come across the too of some wooden stakes, it let's you know that at some point in the day, this is dry land.
To be forgotten is more painful than death itself. All of this bones reminds us that someday we also gonna join them but hopefully we buried in proper way.
I'm surprised as to how well preserved the bones are seeing as they are so old and in the water 🤔
Hi Si
I watched your latest video you did on Deadmans Island and I agree with what you said about all those bones of people being removed and reburied somewhere else. They were human too after all and they deserve to have a proper burial instead of just being left on an island. It was very sad to see the jawbones of children too and I know they were all prisoners but they need to be buried properly somewhere else.
Deb
That was a moving day, poor souls, can emagine how the past suddently came very close, may they rest in peace. Thank you for this inlightning and yet grusome story. Be safe 👍❤
I love your idea of finding the bones and making a grave for them, with a small ceremony. Life was so cruel back then. I am glad you were guys were respectful
Men are such kids!Its nice to see a more playful version of mudlarking!Keeep the fun coming lads and the history lessons. After seeing more it is actually very sad and shocking.Hope these lost souls are finally at rest....
The teeth are in remarkably good shape for what I would have imagined. Thank you for showing this .
This was so interesting. I love learning about the history and appreciate u telling and showing me.
Personally I don't think the bones need to b rebuired because they r turning back into nature. Nature is living on them and they r being eroded.
Also I appreciate the respect u showed when handling the bones.
"pick it up" Steve "I don't want to pick it up" PICK IT UP Steve picks it up
Defo on my list to get out to dead mans island. Maybe a a collab
@Digby Dooright it was completely off limits when these decided to treck there ..... it’s been off limits for a long time
I agree that the bones should be collected and reinterred in a graveyard. Not just for the sake of those who died but also to prevent the bones from washing up in other areas of the mainland.
Well and for the fact some people rather gruesomely collect the items. They don't belong there to be looted. That's for sure.
Epic video, Thanks, May they all rest in piece
shapumawildcat peace*
Go back at night and see what you hear or see, that would be a great video.
Oh god
Hello Si, hope you all had some fun after looking at all of those bones. It’s so depressing knowing that people of war were not properly buried. Such as life and we know back in the day it wasn’t easy to find them. Have a fantastic week ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💜
Happy you found so many great bottles. Can't believe the government doesn't take some action to remove the remains of these unfortunate people and give them a decent burial somewhere.
Make mine your words ...
They’re being reclaimed. We’re all insignificant nobodies when it comes down to it.
I wouldn’t want them to unearth any old diseases thanks.
daver8521 Don’t expect the government to have dignity or regard for the people.
Why? They’re being reclaimed by nature.
The planet is littered in dead bodies....fussing about every single person “staying buried” is logistically unreasonable.
Everyone dies.
No one is special when you get down to it.
Never heard about this! Thank you for telling their story. Si you are so interesting!
Sue Taylor Thanks Sue!
Great video! Very interesting and sad at the same time! Those were harsh times back then.
That wall you found is most likely a ww1/ww2 installation that would make sense of the shrapnel you found nearby
at least the snails on the island have plenty of calcium
Truly sad. But it was a very educational video. Thank You.
Incredibly interesting! Would love to go on a lark like this! Well done, gents!
37:29 one side of the jaw bone where the teeth should be is perfectly smooth like there wasn't any teeth grew on it
This means the person lost them when alive and it wore smooth. Only found on elderly people
Part of the ship. Part of the crew.
You know when I read "Hovercraft" I really was terrified y'all were gonna be riding around on an island and looking for artifacts while on those Hoverboard things that were popular a few years back.
That hovercraft thing looks like SO much fun! I'd love to go on an adventure like this.
They are exciting and terrifying in equal measure 😂
And that's if you survived being shipped off to Australia and that's a big IF. The conditions on those ships were terrible. I can't imagine what it was like seeing the bones and jawbone with some teeth still attached. That's so nice of you guys to volunteer to help with the collection of the bones and maybe putting them all in one place. People should never be treated like they're a nuisance of society, even if they do unlawful things. The severe criminals are the ones that should go to prison but not ones that are trying to feed themselves and they are starving in their family. Starving so they steal things to feed their family. But putting children with adults is never a good idea in the criminal system. It's like Alcatraz, you wouldn't find any remains of children there, but that was built in 1934, a whole different time frame. Thank you for showing respect, I appreciate that.
I was going to mention to you in the last video that I watched of how much Steve reminds me of my late hubby or he could be his brother because his mannerism, and just things that he does like putting together that VW Bug, my hubby owned a Bug back in 67or 68 and then in this video, you show a picture of Steve motocross racing and guess what? My hubby used to do the same thing. Isn't that amazing how similar they are?
Thank you for another great video!!😊🌊
Thank you for being so respectful si.. you could hear in your voice you were extremely moved! I never new this place existed.. loving your channel.. x
Very interesting. I was hunting along the Ouachita River in Arkansas after a flood event and came across a human pelvic bone and a femur. I was told by the guys that I hunted with who were locals that it is not uncommon to come across old bones uncovered by flood waters. Could be American Indians or European Settlers. No one could say for sure. I left them where I found them. Not much else to do.
This is the second time I’ve watched this learning the history and the reason for its existence helps to understand considering the times were harsh then.
Si I think it would be nice if the hovercraft guys came out and collected up the exposed bones and put them in a new grave. Bless you guys for showing us some history of Britain
Wasn't there a society in UK that dealt with stuff like this? Open bone pits, they'd collect and bury them? I seem to remember it...or maybe it was UK, but operated on mainland...it's a pity nobody goes and put those poor bastards to rest.
“He needs to see a dentist.” 😂
Hi Si. Im from Brighton and Hove and I would love to come to help collect these bones and put them all together in one place, even just a nice storage box on the island so perhaps anyone else that is a 'i don't mind picking that up' person could place any pieces in the box so there could be a place of remembrance for them as a group that could be slightly less lost and forgotten. The water and marine life could still work to break them down into the earth but atleast they could be all together and not washed away or trodden on. Thank you for being respectful of them. It was very interesting and captivating. 😊
This is very sad. I am with you on giving these people a proper place of rest.
Phenomenal vid. Very human. You're a good man. Never experience this here in the states.
perhaps not finding bones in mud, but keep in mind what was done to Native Americans, then to slave ships, then to immigrants brought to do slave labor in the mines out West, and the current immigrants dying in the cruel camps on the border.
Looks like so much fun to drive that, I’m a little jealous
Edit: As the video goes on it hit me that all those people are unclaimed, no one knows who they are (well who they were) what there life was life, etc. It’s really sad to see this...I really hate that this happened to tons of people and no one will ever know who those people are. Hell that could be some of out relatives bones on that island or even in the video. I respect you for putting the bones back down around the same place.
Edit 2: I did some research and they were buried in coffins, they were unmarked and 6 feet under the mud
The feckin ciggy butts made me laugh my feckin ass off. What a throw-back ass 😂🤣😂
Loved this a really great exciting and historical video ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
"What I'm about to show you is a bit gruesome so you might want to look away"
*proceeds to put it as the thumbnail*
At this point I the video cut to an advert for swimwear with girls strutting around in bikinis and cosies. Definitely needed to look away!!!!🥺
Incredibly sad, but informative! I agree with a mass grave monument.
Si the funniest video was when you found the grenade and that soldier walked right up to it and picked it up it was hilarious,love your videos!
There are a bunch of islands near me that I am exploring soon. Looks like a great adventure. Take care.
21st century now and just think these remains will still all be here for probably a few more hundred years or more.So 😥.
Enlightning vlog, albight a bit sad, depressing, shocking and poignant, thx Simon 🕯
Wow....this was pretty cool man. Really been getting into your uploads as of late. GREAT JOB---Great Music
Equal parts sadness with facination on our shared history. So many layers of history, left a jumble.
These human remains deserve more dignity than this. They need to be gathered and put in a mass memorial on that Island so they won't become curiosities for thrill seekers. So sad. Thanks, Simon for showing us this despicable situation.
D R its just bones, the souls are rested.
Well keep in mind these people were thieves, rapist, pedos, murderers, etc. There was a reason why they were exiled from UK
@@hookedonguns5941 Some may have been hardened criminals but not all of them. Many were imprisoned or transported for stealing food or clothing. Many of the women were prostitutes. They were born into poverty and had no chance in life. They got by as best they could, Children as young as 10 were treated the same as adults. They could be sentenced to death for stealing food because they were starving, although often the death sentence was commuted in favour of transportation. However, some prisoners asked to be hanged rather than transported. Australia to them was an unknown and terrifying land. I've researched this a lot because I played the part of a female convict in a play called Female Transport. I have a lot of sympathy with those people. A fantastic vlog Si. It made me think and feel a great deal. Thank you x
Looking forward to more.
This almost brought tears to my eyes, I believe coming to my country saved many lives.
Except for the hundreds of thousands of aboriginals who were murdered.
Roman pottery next to ww2 shrapnel next to 1800s prisoners, SOO cool!! The History in the that one area is amazing!