In case anyone didn’t realize during the 2nd round of the 3rd map when the console team was attacking the dps players and support players switched roles. So they beat a pc t500 team while off roling.
I mean it’s a team vs 5 randoms, it’s not that insane of an idea imo. My team regularly runs 3v5 games against our b-team and wins cause we have communication.
@@novakaz2279 the point I’m trying to make in identifying this is that there isn’t as crazy of a gap between high elo console and pc as a lot of pc golds believe there is
@@iamalfiie7700 yeah I’m pretty sure dinks has hit rank 1 on all roles before but it should be a message to the pc gold plebs that think console t500 players are pc bronzes
That's not the issue either. It doesn't matter that these guys are top 10 console. They are literally a team that scrim with each other and know each other well. Jay said it twice in this video, best way to get a really good game is to have another pro team or even ex pro team to play these guys.
@@finenova6673 put Cyx with 2 top 10 supports playing Ana Kiri and he would give them a run for their money. Maybe not win but would be definitely close games
@@finenova6673 Using the fact that they scrim together is Cope. Because if they're taking 1v1s and are just destroying the enemy team in those 1v1s, not just in team fights, then it's clearly just a skill issue.
yeah see except OW is a TEAM BASED game. It's not about 1v1s. The entire matches wasn't just 1v1 fights, the console team just absolutely fried AS A TEAM. Even in the cases where the PC team had the number advantage they still lost TEAM FIGHTS cause the console team was just better.@@thearchitectofthehounds9815
The PC will always find excuses. They say that Aim assist is too strong but they wouldn't even be able to ride Gold with a controller, that's the sad reality. TOP 500 Console players have always been ridiculed for years, they are not the best players in the world but they deserve another reputation on Overwatch
I used to be a t500 rein on xbox and the issue with like top 50 or 100 players on console is ximming, which is way more oppressive seeing a ximming widow it's basically like playing against a hacker
@@kill3rw0lf39 Except ximming is literally cheating? Wdym all levels lol I'm specifically talking about the widespread use of ximmers in top 100ish console leaderboards. Don't think a gold player would experience a t100 ximmer but sure
@Poekuli it's just not that big of a deal. Played against plenty of ximmers, as widow, and won. I just dont know why you bitch about it. And it's cute that you result to an inaccurate ad hominem there at the end.
As a console player and PC dabbler, I just want to say that aim assist doesn’t make up for the skill expression allowed by mouse and keyboard. It’s not that strong, pinkie promise. I wouldn’t lie to you, I’m in an overwatch TH-cam comment section. I’m an Eagle Scout. My mother said she’d cry if I lie so I don’t want her to cry cause then I’ll cry so please believe me I just-
@@noobiegamerz3561some games have really strong rotational aim assist. Apex and call of duty are good examples, that make it so using a controller is a legitimate advantage over using mnk. Overwatch is not one of those games
@@Sheo.G bro, aim assist on ana, that shit is the absolute worst, turned my assist all the way down cuz it kept pulling to the enemies instead of teammates
yeah obviously, get someone inexperienced to play on a platform they don't play of course they will be bad????? Not defending PC players it's just what is that logic??
Jays chat has to one of the worst 💀 a bunch of big ego pc players who don’t know how aim assist works. It’s considerably easier to aim with your whole arm compared to only using your fingers like on console , aim assist makes it even.
I'd argue aim assist on sticks could never come close to someone who can actually aim with a mouse. All the people claiming aim assist probably can't even play aim trainer games properly.
yes its easier to flick onto a target when on mouse, but in games like this where there is so much unpredictable movement and such fast movement, aim assist becomes op when they are able to track unpredictable movements that even the best mouse aimers cant predict, and neither would the controller aimer be able to predict but since they have aim assist they really dont have to predict it.
@@pizzhut5 aim assist on mouse and keyboard IS CHEATING. thats an aimbot. Now look at that tracer at 1:30 this guy wouldnt hit almost anything without the aim assist, that does say that aiming with controller is much harder than mouse and keyboard but it doesnt say its still not an unfair advantage if u have it and the other one doesnt.
@@nickprovost6698 it's the same as the pc cheats, people get banned if found cheating, this pro players obviously don't use that things. It's sad people are always complaining about something cuz they can't get as good as good the best m&k or controller players
PC gamers literally have it so much easier to play, especially if aim assist didn't exist. You guys can literally use your entire arm to move where you're looking but all we have in console is our thumb and we can only try so quickly, so either I turn my sensitivity up really high and I have to make very small increments of movements, or I just deal with the fact I can't do a 180 almost instantly
There was literally an elo hell vid where a top 500 console player was hardstuck pc diamond. Game sense was T500 but mechanics were diamond, so it seems to matter to some extent. Also scrimming matters a shit ton. Like who do you expect to win? 2023 OWL champs Florida mayhem or a bunch of random comp ladder kids? Kind of a dumb question.
I think that most people dont understand the next level that pros are on. You could take the top 5 players on the pc ladder and they wouldnt beat the #1 console team. Being a team just means so much
I mean yea pc players have the advantage of idk their whole fucking arm, obviously this was kinda of an unfair fight but I think you’re forgetting idk again that pc players have first off their entire arm, they get flicks higher fps and normally they have better ping than the console players.
Y’all act like cgl players actually practice or scrim, most teams play like one night a week. There is no “pro” season. Console is just a very small pool at the high level, all these players know each other and have played on ladder for years
6:22 I don’t think aim assist is carrying. When you have more cheaters on your servers, 500fov, the option to plug in a controller yourself and better specs, I feel like anyone is just coping with a loss by saying aim assist. I think PC overall has more competitive players by far, but I’d still put them on par with the few top console players. In games like fortnite and cod, some players have won big tournaments using controller. I think that you’re discouraging console if you think a group of randoms should’ve beaten a competitive team. Games like siege have controller players who are capable of beating pc players and the game doesn’t have aim assist for either.
The fact that the console team struggled here and there, shows that their potential is being hindered by hardware. It'd be cool to see them with keyboard and mouse.
The amount of excuses and cope people wanna make watching this. Ow aim assist isn't remotely strong. This is the equivalent to a 5 stack vs 5 solo ques. (The Console team even swapped roles to troll) They are simply better. And most people in the comments wont be close to as good as anyone in either teams.
Its not aim assist, its just that the console team are in a higher tier relatively to their platform. A console pro player with beat a random ladder grinder but a pc pro of same relative tier in their platform will beat the console pro.
@@lostxnxyou Yes we do lol, anyone who follows ow esports anywhere close to regularly acknowledges that the top pc teams are clearly better. The advantage in control that mouse gives is massive when it comes to the top top level of play. When you play against uncoordinated random ladder grinders you can get away with a controller, an actual pc t1 team is a different discussion
@Mmmm-lx9vb again we do not know that. There's been jay3 videos of pc players losing to console players on even rankings/teams. And vice versa. We do not know who will win. You just assume.
people are deluded if they think console players have better aim because of aim assist when you're comparing it to freely moving your mouse around with your hand and wrist. I better to turn off aim assist on a lot of heroes, it's as much of a hinderance as it helps. Its very bad for characters that need to turn their camera for movement, and its quite unhelpful for projectile heroes, it's most helpful on heroes that are hitscan, but hitscan is what console players struggle the most with (because you're aiming with a thumb and not your hand and wrist) The advantage console players ACTUALLY have is the 360 degree movement from the joystick. Dumb Dumbs
I expected the console team to win. At this high of a level, team coordination and set up plays are the most important which the PC team is unlikely to have. Edited: Exception to this is when both teams are so coordinated, i.e. Overwatch League, that individual mechanics can make a difference.
Ok u fs need to put some xims in the mix. To show what normal console ranked looks like. Feels like 50% of hitscan players are xim when i queue up. (1 per team)
@@noahmcdonald4064 I thinks he’s talking about gm lobbies. I also have high sense but i can tell the difference between my aim and a KSA player who xims in gm..
Appreciate the content. My son plays on PS5 and my brother plays on PC. And I'm always teaming with them from a Switch, as support (Moira main). So a lot of cross-play happening. I've played so much on Switch that I've learned to adjust my gameplay to work with the limitations of the device. I've had to learn to predict what's going to happen so that I can make any meaningful impact. I don't use aim assist because it just messes me up on that small screen. Especially if I'm DPS as a sniper etc. It goes all wonky and messes with my eyes. Same reason the gyro stuff is turned off. Am I the best support? Hardly. But it sure is fun seeing comments when people discover they've been dominated by some 'old' man on a Switch! And even better to hear my son's reaction to my gameplay. Just recently after I finished a match with over 26K heals he said, "Dad, you're a whole hospital!" Good times.
You've done a stacked PC team before with a random console top 500 as well remember the episode with the contenders??? If anything tbh console should just gain the respect it deserves PC players have egos and consoles have a point to prove 🤔
Do console teams use mouse and keyboard or nah? I used to be top 500 console pS5... rank 1 heal, 3 dps and 8 tank. Now coming back i'm diamond vs xbox ps5 crossplay. Am I just out of practice or is are they all using m and K?
I would like to see pc players use controller at max sens with aim assist just to see if they can even control it(lol) let alone play well. I keep seeing so many lame coping comments talking down on console it’s sick. Half of u would have zero value on console even if you were playing quick play against diamonds!
I play primarily on a Switch. Mostly support, and Moira main. I don't use aim assist on the Switch because it messes with my eyes nearly as bad as the gyro stuff on the Switch. I'm in cross-play all the time because my brother is on PC and my son is on PS5, and we team up. It's funny to read comments when people discover they just got dominated by an 'old' guy on a Switch. The only time someone heals more than me is if I've been queued up with some garbage players and need to dps more, or, when I'm with a great Mercy. But I'm routinely putting up more healing than Mercy and the Lucio. Am I the best? Nope. Far from it. But I'm having a blast mixing it up with gold and plat players on better devices, and still making a meaningful impact. Appreciate this video!
PC players think aim assists make people good at the games. Aim assist helps a VERY TINY amount But it does not give you game sense, skill, and game knowledge.
Im pretty sure they know that, it’s their ego that keeps them using this excuse. I play on PC and my friends are on console and they’re all better than me they’re master and I’m on diamond and I absolutely can’t even keep up with them. I always watch their gameplay to learn
I think the only way to make this fair is to put these console guys against actual top 100 players because isn’t that like the highest rated team on console?
The real cope is if this was the case that consoles can actually hang and there was actual data to prove it i dont see why Blizzard or whoever idk at this point. Idk why they couldn’t just combine the playerbase.
I refuse to believe theres a difference between owl players and t500 players. Both use and understand teamwork, communication and role switching well. The only downsides would be toxicity and not in comms which werent present here. Pc players just shouldnt underestimate console players alot
Um what no there's a huge difference between owl vs top 500. It's not visible in ow 2 cause everybody's gm1, but basically in ow 1 4600 was usually where normal owl players sat at, which is basically impossible for normal top500s. Ask anybody thats good they will tell you there's a huge difference.
@@Reartwig you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. First of all 4.6 in ow1 was usually every top 15 player on the leaderboard in a season. Second Good Owl academy teams requirement for even trying out for then was 4.4 so I don't know what youre talking about. Most owl players have gotten 4.6 multiple times and usually stayed within the 4.5 and 4.6 range. I can name every American owl player who was usually 4.6 too. And the guys have als gotten rank 1 multiple times. You can just search it up. Danteh, super, hydron, ultra violet, ojee, space, Reiner, aspire, s9mm, coluge, speedily, sinatraa, RuPaul, Jake, landon, lukemino, funny astro, dove, rakattack. Etc. These are just the American player who have reached 4.6, not even countin the other nationalities in owl. Most there are usually In the 4.6 or 4.5 range. Most there have also reached 4.7. One of, if not the worst owl player ever, Malthel is also a top 100 DPS player usually. The Koreans are also on average better than this. Like genuinely you have no idea what your talking about. You don't even have to take my word for it. Go on reddit look up awkward ( a multiple rank 1 player) and search up his comment from like 3 or 4 years ago. He'll straight up tell you that a good or normal owl player should always be at 4.6 or 4.5 if they are actually trying in ranked.
@@ignorantslaves89 But most t500 we see regularly (not owl players) are using mid to high level. The highest t500 hit close to those ranks aswell on console. I never said they got the bottom t500. Also we dont know what ranks the players were in the video. Looked like 4200 - 4400. I dont want to bother going too deep arguing with you but theres a reason even owl players dont hit 5000, because they lose games. I still think a decent t500 vs owl players would still be close
@@Reartwig The guys from console they were 4.6 players in console ow1. Btw the best player on console : Hcpeful, who has gotten rank 1 on both console and PC will straight up tell you good or normal owl players are just much better than top500. It's literally in their job descriptions. They have to be better. For most owl teams, at minimum you had to have gotten 4.6. Then if you tryout and get a spot on the team, you will normally scrim for more than 3 hours most days and you might play a couple more hours of ranked after. I don't know what to tell you dude, they are just better. That why they're paid to play.
Not true, I hit top 500 with soldier and use a controller. Got to top 126, but it got really hard after that since a lot of sobjorns straight up xim :(
the play at 3:40 had me scratching my head so hard. He has all his cooldowns on monkey and hes just sitting there begging for heals? Is this dude a ramm one trick or something?
Hubris. So many pc players think they are the most superior. But this game takes more than mechanics at top 500. Auto-aim and mouse sensitivity is out to dry at this point.
this comment section is a hellhole of PC players calling out console for aim assist being "cheating" and the console players hating on the PC team because they lost and saying "cosmetic rank" and "how are they GM" like jfc are all of you 12 years old?
@greenpig1175 id still say pc win as the thing to consider is at top rank although console gets aim assist pc dont need it at that rank but they do have more key binding options to help with movement abilities etc aswell its closer and ofc console can beat pc but overall pc will always win
pc players cope so hard when console players are just better than them like it’s not way easier to aim on pc with a mouse and your whole arm than console even with aim assist and i play both 😭
Pc has built in aim assist already with a mouse. We gotta control our aim with our thumbs. Pc players used to never complain about aim assist in any game until console started dominating
A mouse is in no way a built in aim assist? A mouse gives you better control of your crosshair but the inputs are 100% your own, aim assist isnt your input.
No pc players advantage is that they can 180 in an instant pc players dont have aim assist its just that big turns are harder for console. Btw im a console player and both devices have different advantages and disadvantages and pc aim assist is not one of them.
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In case anyone didn’t realize during the 2nd round of the 3rd map when the console team was attacking the dps players and support players switched roles. So they beat a pc t500 team while off roling.
I mean it’s a team vs 5 randoms, it’s not that insane of an idea imo. My team regularly runs 3v5 games against our b-team and wins cause we have communication.
@@novakaz2279hush monkey
to be fair though, like half of them is like really high elo on all 3 roles
@@novakaz2279 the point I’m trying to make in identifying this is that there isn’t as crazy of a gap between high elo console and pc as a lot of pc golds believe there is
@@iamalfiie7700 yeah I’m pretty sure dinks has hit rank 1 on all roles before but it should be a message to the pc gold plebs that think console t500 players are pc bronzes
How many times does console have to beat PC for you to realize that console needs an even match up. Random top 500s are gonna get washed every time
He knows it's just hard without gm 5 stacking
@@jameslopez9661 why not get random top 500 console. It’s obvious console does not need handicaps
best console team vs best owl team would be enough ??
@@EnergZAX we all know console is getting cooked, M&K and controlller gap is way too wide at that level
This comment is underrated!
You gotta get the best PC players possible for these guys.. mid-bottom top500 wont cut it, they are all top 10 on console.
That's not the issue either. It doesn't matter that these guys are top 10 console. They are literally a team that scrim with each other and know each other well. Jay said it twice in this video, best way to get a really good game is to have another pro team or even ex pro team to play these guys.
@@finenova6673 put Cyx with 2 top 10 supports playing Ana Kiri and he would give them a run for their money. Maybe not win but would be definitely close games
@@finenova6673 Using the fact that they scrim together is Cope. Because if they're taking 1v1s and are just destroying the enemy team in those 1v1s, not just in team fights, then it's clearly just a skill issue.
Considering we always say GM on console is Diamond on PC this should be fair
yeah see except OW is a TEAM BASED game. It's not about 1v1s. The entire matches wasn't just 1v1 fights, the console team just absolutely fried AS A TEAM. Even in the cases where the PC team had the number advantage they still lost TEAM FIGHTS cause the console team was just better.@@thearchitectofthehounds9815
The PC will always find excuses. They say that Aim assist is too strong but they wouldn't even be able to ride Gold with a controller, that's the sad reality. TOP 500 Console players have always been ridiculed for years, they are not the best players in the world but they deserve another reputation on Overwatch
Necrise is like top 50 in every role on console
I used to be a t500 rein on xbox and the issue with like top 50 or 100 players on console is ximming, which is way more oppressive seeing a ximming widow it's basically like playing against a hacker
It's really not man, but I've heard a lot of players from all levels try to claim that so I get it
@@kill3rw0lf39 Except ximming is literally cheating? Wdym all levels lol I'm specifically talking about the widespread use of ximmers in top 100ish console leaderboards. Don't think a gold player would experience a t100 ximmer but sure
@Poekuli it's just not that big of a deal. Played against plenty of ximmers, as widow, and won. I just dont know why you bitch about it. And it's cute that you result to an inaccurate ad hominem there at the end.
@@kill3rw0lf39 I wasn't calling you gold lmao I was giving an example of how my statement wouldn't be applicable to "all levels"
@@Poekuli mmm
This just proves how much communication and teamwork matters for the game. I love this type of content, keep it up Jay ❤
As a console player and PC dabbler, I just want to say that aim assist doesn’t make up for the skill expression allowed by mouse and keyboard. It’s not that strong, pinkie promise. I wouldn’t lie to you, I’m in an overwatch TH-cam comment section. I’m an Eagle Scout. My mother said she’d cry if I lie so I don’t want her to cry cause then I’ll cry so please believe me I just-
This ^
Why would aim assist do that anyway, it's supposed to assist not play for you
@@noobiegamerz3561 it doesnt i just found the comment funny
But yea aim assist in ow is Piss weak in comparison to like apex
@@noobiegamerz3561some games have really strong rotational aim assist. Apex and call of duty are good examples, that make it so using a controller is a legitimate advantage over using mnk. Overwatch is not one of those games
Aim assist actually messes me up 80% of the time
And lol that guy in chat saying aim assist is cheating 😂i bet if you gave him a controller and put him on any hero his aim would be dogshit 😂
They think aim assist is gonna do all the work for you these pathetic losers
I swear aim assist does more worse than good. Aim assist when playing widow is the worst shit ever.
like you don’t even realize you’re playing with aim assist UNTIL it fucks up your shot on someone ☠️ it’s actually horrible
@@Sheo.G bro, aim assist on ana, that shit is the absolute worst, turned my assist all the way down cuz it kept pulling to the enemies instead of teammates
yeah obviously, get someone inexperienced to play on a platform they don't play of course they will be bad????? Not defending PC players it's just what is that logic??
Jays chat has to one of the worst 💀 a bunch of big ego pc players who don’t know how aim assist works. It’s considerably easier to aim with your whole arm compared to only using your fingers like on console , aim assist makes it even.
I'd argue aim assist on sticks could never come close to someone who can actually aim with a mouse. All the people claiming aim assist probably can't even play aim trainer games properly.
yes its easier to flick onto a target when on mouse, but in games like this where there is so much unpredictable movement and such fast movement, aim assist becomes op when they are able to track unpredictable movements that even the best mouse aimers cant predict, and neither would the controller aimer be able to predict but since they have aim assist they really dont have to predict it.
Nah
Someone said "aim assist is cheating tho.." like what 😭
@@pizzhut5 aim assist on mouse and keyboard IS CHEATING. thats an aimbot. Now look at that tracer at 1:30 this guy wouldnt hit almost anything without the aim assist, that does say that aiming with controller is much harder than mouse and keyboard but it doesnt say its still not an unfair advantage if u have it and the other one doesnt.
I like that the console kiriko hits shots without flicking all the time like pc player does^^
Console supports where cracked
As if its hard to hit shots on kiriko 😂
Us console Kirikos are just better
It’s much harder to flick on console, and harder to track on pc
@@GuineaPigLover9”our aim assist is better”
People complain about aim assist as if it was autoaim lol cheaters on pc get rolled with actual aim bot
Naw aim assist doesnt do anything its the Cronus, and Xim they use
@@nickprovost6698 it's the same as the pc cheats, people get banned if found cheating, this pro players obviously don't use that things. It's sad people are always complaining about something cuz they can't get as good as good the best m&k or controller players
this made me laugh @@Manujaeger13
Love the console tech at 20:40 😂😂😂
Bros a content machine
Monkey couldn’t carry his team on his back hard enough to win the second match 😔
Lovin the content, always love to see the high elo teams vs teams land its so much better when you are playing in the matches. Keep it up!
Zbra Vs Necrize would be crazy
Zbra is a 1 trick doom. In the doom mirror he beats anyone
Zbra is a demon on doom it’s just not him knowing the hero the dude just views the game in a different perspective
@@ZykoYFFhe lost a doom 1v1 to max dresy recently
@@Twigz72 1v1's really don't translate to being good at the game, so much more to overwatch than just 1v1's - especially as a tank
I love the go to "ITS AIM ASSIST BRO" Like for real stfu and enjoy the amazing game play
When console wins it’s “aim assist op” and when they lose it’s “console players suck lol”. Actually can’t win.
@@HydratedChampion faxxxxxx dislike that stance from those people so muchhhhh
Early in the video you can see how pc tracer just snaps at console tracer head and they say aim assist is op like the reaction time is insane in pc
found the aim assist abuser
PC gamers literally have it so much easier to play, especially if aim assist didn't exist. You guys can literally use your entire arm to move where you're looking but all we have in console is our thumb and we can only try so quickly, so either I turn my sensitivity up really high and I have to make very small increments of movements, or I just deal with the fact I can't do a 180 almost instantly
Console team win: THIS LOOK LIKE A AIMBOT😡😡😡
console team lose: the bronze pc is the GM console 🍷🗿
it will be fun to watch the ow1 gm team against CGL
Wth! 🤯 PC getting rolled😅
20:55 amazing blink punch plus amazing movement
I thought top 500 on console was diamond on pc, so why does it matter if they all scrim together lol
Console gm 5 is around pc gm1. And console gm 321 is all top 500pc mostly because of xims etc console has 76s with 90% accuracy it’s pretty gross
There was literally an elo hell vid where a top 500 console player was hardstuck pc diamond. Game sense was T500 but mechanics were diamond, so it seems to matter to some extent.
Also scrimming matters a shit ton. Like who do you expect to win? 2023 OWL champs Florida mayhem or a bunch of random comp ladder kids? Kind of a dumb question.
@@angelstyle9677 pc diamond like fresh keyboard because that takes time to get used to
@@exilty-1851 he was hardstuck diamond, pretty sure thr keyboard wasn't the problem
@@Vegaan game sense was t500 but mechanics was diamond sounds like keyboard learning issue to me
I think that most people dont understand the next level that pros are on. You could take the top 5 players on the pc ladder and they wouldnt beat the #1 console team. Being a team just means so much
I mean yea pc players have the advantage of idk their whole fucking arm, obviously this was kinda of an unfair fight but I think you’re forgetting idk again that pc players have first off their entire arm, they get flicks higher fps and normally they have better ping than the console players.
controller aim assist also helps
@@Danieljosol did you actually watch the games here? The biggest differences were target prioritization and retakes, both a function of team play
@@isaacjones6323 ah, so you're saying they didnt play with aim assist, I stand corrected then. my b
@@Danieljosol can you please point to the part of my comment where I said that?
Y’all act like cgl players actually practice or scrim, most teams play like one night a week. There is no “pro” season. Console is just a very small pool at the high level, all these players know each other and have played on ladder for years
the majority of them don’t even play ladder anymore they just scrim lol. idk what you’re talking about
That doesnt explain the clapping in the 1v1s. Lets face it, these top 500s got clamped
Console team better show out again. Xbox gang 🔥🔥
Yessirr 🔥
@@LuisOchoa-eq2dh no way you agreed to your own comment 😭
@@cytro sometimes you just gotta agree when a real ngga say sum
This is a playstation team…
6:22 I don’t think aim assist is carrying. When you have more cheaters on your servers, 500fov, the option to plug in a controller yourself and better specs, I feel like anyone is just coping with a loss by saying aim assist.
I think PC overall has more competitive players by far, but I’d still put them on par with the few top console players.
In games like fortnite and cod, some players have won big tournaments using controller. I think that you’re discouraging console if you think a group of randoms should’ve beaten a competitive team.
Games like siege have controller players who are capable of beating pc players and the game doesn’t have aim assist for either.
Let's be honest this is just basically being a solo player vs a 5stack
Yup, pointless video. Console dosent need handicaps. Do random t500 players on both sides.
@@Vexed711 he has done that lol
@@cai2254 than what’s the point of posting steamrolls? Might as well post gold vs plat videos.
@@Vexed711 even with 5 stack pc, they would still lose regardless.
@@LiteralKing Dude the best console teams wouldnt take a map off the best pc teams
with randoms it is hard but well stacked and coordinated team could
The fact that the console team struggled here and there, shows that their potential is being hindered by hardware. It'd be cool to see them with keyboard and mouse.
I love getting the daily uploads so early for me they always drop during my first period class so I Js watch jay during class
Would like to see Zbra on tank for PC. Love to see how that doom v doom would go.
The amount of excuses and cope people wanna make watching this.
Ow aim assist isn't remotely strong. This is the equivalent to a 5 stack vs 5 solo ques. (The Console team even swapped roles to troll) They are simply better. And most people in the comments wont be close to as good as anyone in either teams.
So true it's getting annoying at this point if y'all think it's just so much better than just use it yourselfs??
Its not aim assist, its just that the console team are in a higher tier relatively to their platform. A console pro player with beat a random ladder grinder but a pc pro of same relative tier in their platform will beat the console pro.
@@Mmmm-lx9vb we do not know that
@@lostxnxyou Yes we do lol, anyone who follows ow esports anywhere close to regularly acknowledges that the top pc teams are clearly better. The advantage in control that mouse gives is massive when it comes to the top top level of play. When you play against uncoordinated random ladder grinders you can get away with a controller, an actual pc t1 team is a different discussion
@Mmmm-lx9vb again we do not know that. There's been jay3 videos of pc players losing to console players on even rankings/teams. And vice versa. We do not know who will win. You just assume.
U should go necros Dafran cyx ml7 vs console
and the realkenzo
@@iwantsomeofuhe’s a washed masters player
from what jay has said before it's so difficult to get the EU streamers but maybe he could get them
@@iwantsomeofukenzo is masters
@@gradyyrhis account is cursed or something because there are so many videos of him going 5-0 and still staying the same rank
people are deluded if they think console players have better aim because of aim assist when you're comparing it to freely moving your mouse around with your hand and wrist.
I better to turn off aim assist on a lot of heroes, it's as much of a hinderance as it helps. Its very bad for characters that need to turn their camera for movement, and its quite unhelpful for projectile heroes, it's most helpful on heroes that are hitscan, but hitscan is what console players struggle the most with (because you're aiming with a thumb and not your hand and wrist)
The advantage console players ACTUALLY have is the 360 degree movement from the joystick. Dumb Dumbs
I expected the console team to win. At this high of a level, team coordination and set up plays are the most important which the PC team is unlikely to have.
Edited: Exception to this is when both teams are so coordinated, i.e. Overwatch League, that individual mechanics can make a difference.
Does akaza have any type of channel twitch, tiktok , TH-cam? I wish you would @ them in the disc
he streams sometimes his twitch is beastman076
beastman076 is his twitch
teamplay in a teamplay based game is better ? who wouldve thought
they had 1v1 moments pc got shitted on whats your point and i thought yall was just better now its this and thats lol
Ok u fs need to put some xims in the mix. To show what normal console ranked looks like. Feels like 50% of hitscan players are xim when i queue up. (1 per team)
Tbh I play on 100 sensitivity and everyone I play in masters accuses me of ximming. like I’m not even that good bro
@@kamthescholarsame here bro I’m peak Masters 1 on dps and I get accused of using one. Like bruh I’m shit it’s just a lucky game 🤣
@@noahmcdonald4064 ong
@@noahmcdonald4064 I thinks he’s talking about gm lobbies. I also have high sense but i can tell the difference between my aim and a KSA player who xims in gm..
Appreciate the content. My son plays on PS5 and my brother plays on PC. And I'm always teaming with them from a Switch, as support (Moira main). So a lot of cross-play happening. I've played so much on Switch that I've learned to adjust my gameplay to work with the limitations of the device. I've had to learn to predict what's going to happen so that I can make any meaningful impact. I don't use aim assist because it just messes me up on that small screen. Especially if I'm DPS as a sniper etc. It goes all wonky and messes with my eyes. Same reason the gyro stuff is turned off. Am I the best support? Hardly. But it sure is fun seeing comments when people discover they've been dominated by some 'old' man on a Switch! And even better to hear my son's reaction to my gameplay. Just recently after I finished a match with over 26K heals he said, "Dad, you're a whole hospital!" Good times.
Complaining about aim assist needs to stop. It’s not nearly as good as using mouse and keyboard.
Ngl, anytime the console players win, it's 'aim assist'. You just can't win as a console player 😂😂😂. (Im a pc player)
i just switched from console to pc after playing on console for the last 8 years so the pc v console series is so fun to watch
he had to make sure he added that its a "random Pc team". already making excuses in the title🤣🤣🤣
Fr. We need to see an actual pro pc team
How the hell do you aim that well with a controller?
They all use a cronus lolz
I don't understand your point, just play the game and you get better. It's a xbox controller, not a remote controller
@@nickprovost6698Cronus thankfully don’t work no more on PlayStation, don’t know bout xbox tho
Well they are in the top 0.001% of aiming with a controller. Most people are not gonna be able to aim like that
top 0.001% because of the cronus lolz
@@nas4750
Jay sounds like the nerd emoji
these guys were the goats and shit
Bro mimic is a menace
i don't understand why people complain about aim assist, you are aiming with your whole arm instead of just your thumb, u can't be mad at this
We Still Blamin Aim Assist ?????? Wth
they had a rein an junk and ppl still brought up aim ast
you can literally watch it happen 😭😭😭 im neutral and have no opinion but watch their ashe its a joke
2:50 é triste quando isso acontece
It must suck getting top 500 just for the comment section to call you bad on youtube
Have more respecto to religión "God damn it"is an religioso insult
You've done a stacked PC team before with a random console top 500 as well remember the episode with the contenders??? If anything tbh console should just gain the respect it deserves PC players have egos and consoles have a point to prove 🤔
Oh and tbh in that episode console actually put up a amazing fight. And they were truly toxic to each other the whole time. "ORB WHERES MY ORB!!!"
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This was pretty much Renner vs Console team
akaza is insane.
I’ve played with akaza before, he’s a menace on tracer
As always, the tank player doing everything while the rest of the team just dies on cooldown
dude, reiner's monkey's was immaculate. fr
Do console teams use mouse and keyboard or nah? I used to be top 500 console pS5... rank 1 heal, 3 dps and 8 tank. Now coming back i'm diamond vs xbox ps5 crossplay. Am I just out of practice or is are they all using m and K?
1:48 How did he borderline lock onto that Mei??
20:40😂
That winton is the best player in this vid.
Aim assist is not the problem. The problem is aim assist + xim + cronos.
Every player on the console team is controller
@yervo7266 akaza is a well known xim/mnk player on console I've never seen the others guys tho but they seemed legit good for them.
@@eloina17?? beastman doesnt xim lmao
Beastman is akaza?
FR! they are deff all using a cronus LMAO
I would like to see pc players use controller at max sens with aim assist just to see if they can even control it(lol) let alone play well. I keep seeing so many lame coping comments talking down on console it’s sick. Half of u would have zero value on console even if you were playing quick play against diamonds!
I play primarily on a Switch. Mostly support, and Moira main. I don't use aim assist on the Switch because it messes with my eyes nearly as bad as the gyro stuff on the Switch. I'm in cross-play all the time because my brother is on PC and my son is on PS5, and we team up. It's funny to read comments when people discover they just got dominated by an 'old' guy on a Switch. The only time someone heals more than me is if I've been queued up with some garbage players and need to dps more, or, when I'm with a great Mercy. But I'm routinely putting up more healing than Mercy and the Lucio. Am I the best? Nope. Far from it. But I'm having a blast mixing it up with gold and plat players on better devices, and still making a meaningful impact. Appreciate this video!
Bro when the Weaver 1v1 the Moira 😭
PC players think aim assists make people good at the games. Aim assist helps a VERY TINY amount But it does not give you game sense, skill, and game knowledge.
Im pretty sure they know that, it’s their ego that keeps them using this excuse. I play on PC and my friends are on console and they’re all better than me they’re master and I’m on diamond and I absolutely can’t even keep up with them. I always watch their gameplay to learn
How do you lower dooms fist when he's about to punch? (Console?
I think the only way to make this fair is to put these console guys against actual top 100 players because isn’t that like the highest rated team on console?
I am pretty surprised. I thought the PC team would win easy. Well done to the console players making a strong team.
All the pc players are on off-roles
13:43 As if you hit that shot without aim assist, its wild.
Mate, you're complaining about someone who only uses their thumb, with a joystick, whist you have you're whole arm, better graphics, and scripts
@@veluxmitochondriaph1373scripts? No one uses scripts on pc
The real cope is if this was the case that consoles can actually hang and there was actual data to prove it i dont see why Blizzard or whoever idk at this point. Idk why they couldn’t just combine the playerbase.
I refuse to believe theres a difference between owl players and t500 players. Both use and understand teamwork, communication and role switching well. The only downsides would be toxicity and not in comms which werent present here. Pc players just shouldnt underestimate console players alot
Um what no there's a huge difference between owl vs top 500. It's not visible in ow 2 cause everybody's gm1, but basically in ow 1 4600 was usually where normal owl players sat at, which is basically impossible for normal top500s. Ask anybody thats good they will tell you there's a huge difference.
@@ignorantslaves89
That's not possible. Only a few people reached that sr and even fewer from among them join owl. Try again
@@Reartwig you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
First of all 4.6 in ow1 was usually every top 15 player on the leaderboard in a season.
Second Good Owl academy teams requirement for even trying out for then was 4.4 so I don't know what youre talking about.
Most owl players have gotten 4.6 multiple times and usually stayed within the 4.5 and 4.6 range.
I can name every American owl player who was usually 4.6 too. And the guys have als gotten rank 1 multiple times. You can just search it up.
Danteh, super, hydron, ultra violet, ojee, space, Reiner, aspire, s9mm, coluge, speedily, sinatraa, RuPaul, Jake, landon, lukemino, funny astro, dove, rakattack. Etc.
These are just the American player who have reached 4.6, not even countin the other nationalities in owl. Most there are usually In the 4.6 or 4.5 range. Most there have also reached 4.7.
One of, if not the worst owl player ever, Malthel is also a top 100 DPS player usually.
The Koreans are also on average better than this. Like genuinely you have no idea what your talking about.
You don't even have to take my word for it. Go on reddit look up awkward ( a multiple rank 1 player) and search up his comment from like 3 or 4 years ago. He'll straight up tell you that a good or normal owl player should always be at 4.6 or 4.5 if they are actually trying in ranked.
@@ignorantslaves89
But most t500 we see regularly (not owl players) are using mid to high level. The highest t500 hit close to those ranks aswell on console. I never said they got the bottom t500. Also we dont know what ranks the players were in the video. Looked like 4200 - 4400. I dont want to bother going too deep arguing with you but theres a reason even owl players dont hit 5000, because they lose games. I still think a decent t500 vs owl players would still be close
@@Reartwig The guys from console they were 4.6 players in console ow1.
Btw the best player on console : Hcpeful, who has gotten rank 1 on both console and PC will straight up tell you good or normal owl players are just much better than top500.
It's literally in their job descriptions. They have to be better. For most owl teams, at minimum you had to have gotten 4.6. Then if you tryout and get a spot on the team, you will normally scrim for more than 3 hours most days and you might play a couple more hours of ranked after.
I don't know what to tell you dude, they are just better. That why they're paid to play.
When is the Jay3 community Tournament thingy...?
Everyone in top 500 console that plays hitscan uses a mouse btw
Not true, I hit top 500 with soldier and use a controller. Got to top 126, but it got really hard after that since a lot of sobjorns straight up xim :(
i honestly expected the pc team to come back stronger when they got used to console
the play at 3:40 had me scratching my head so hard. He has all his cooldowns on monkey and hes just sitting there begging for heals? Is this dude a ramm one trick or something?
Anyone who thinks aim assist gives you an advantage over mnk has never picked up a controller
Hubris. So many pc players think they are the most superior. But this game takes more than mechanics at top 500. Auto-aim and mouse sensitivity is out to dry at this point.
Isn’t Reiner an ex-OWL pro? (LA Gladiators) ??
yeah, and his teammates are all on offroles too lol
First off did all the console players play on controller or did they use xim
did the console comp played with mouse keyboard or controller?
controller
Holy shit is that Reiner
does akaza have any socials
Aim assist doesn’t do much, if anything it pulls away from my head shots. Anyone who complains about aim assist isn’t good😂
imean if i have at elast one xim per lobby in diamond... then they're probably all on mouse and keyboard too.
How are the console people like snapping onto targets?
Sadly console player does not mean controller player.
An actual team vs randoms? Not a random team but just randoms
this comment section is a hellhole of PC players calling out console for aim assist being "cheating" and the console players hating on the PC team because they lost and saying "cosmetic rank" and "how are they GM" like jfc are all of you 12 years old?
i agree with the pc part but console cant talk they shit they deserve to its only right yall talk so much on us
bestman and necrize no way😭
I know its cringe
How TF do you play tracer and doom on controller
I mean we all know pc beats console in an even match up 😂
In top 500 I think it’s even, below GM/t500 PC wins easily.
@greenpig1175 id still say pc win as the thing to consider is at top rank although console gets aim assist pc dont need it at that rank but they do have more key binding options to help with movement abilities etc aswell its closer and ofc console can beat pc but overall pc will always win
Top xim players, basically pc vs pc
pc players cope so hard when console players are just better than them like it’s not way easier to aim on pc with a mouse and your whole arm than console even with aim assist and i play both 😭
reiner on winston alone destroys the console team. rest of the pc players out of their league
Console master race I guess...
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Pc has built in aim assist already with a mouse. We gotta control our aim with our thumbs. Pc players used to never complain about aim assist in any game until console started dominating
A mouse is in no way a built in aim assist? A mouse gives you better control of your crosshair but the inputs are 100% your own, aim assist isnt your input.
No pc players advantage is that they can 180 in an instant pc players dont have aim assist its just that big turns are harder for console. Btw im a console player and both devices have different advantages and disadvantages and pc aim assist is not one of them.
Idk about that. Mouse takes fucking practice. I looked like a toddler playing mouse for the first 3 months
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