well i wouldn't be surprise if every console player who hit the highest rank isn't doing that i mean take a look at fortnite you cant tell all those controller players wasn't cheating
No, he is not Ximmer. Look at the way how he is jumping. Jump - move - jump - move. Because he press X on the controller with thumb and after that puts his thumb on the right stick. His jumping always straight.
I don't blame the streamers for thinking that the top players are most likely ximming. Console is a cesspool for ximmers and a good portion of top 500 are ximmers anyway so its not like the streamers are entirely incorrect. Props to you hopeful btw for sticking to the controller
Only reason it’s a weird statement is because Jay has literally had most of the people on this team on his channel multiple times and knows they aren’t xim
I watch these on Jay3's channel too. Seriously the console vs pc vids are so fun to watch, and it's nice for console players to get some respect. Also, your tip on switching tracer pulse to LT was an enormous help. I just need to get more consistent with my spacing on blink melees. It's hard to perfect that, so huge respect for making it look so damn easy.
Thank you! I love watching those videos just to see the pc meatriders squirm in chat and comments. Pc players are so toxic… even though anyone who makes any progress w a controller is just gonna be accused of cheating or belittled because we have to use our thumbs to aim (therefore we get aim assist) and not our entire arm
@@jaykrbJay just says stuff to troll all the time. Especially about console. Bro has gotten shit on by console players multiple times but then always insinuates console players are trash still. I find it mildly annoying, but it’s just his style of humor
@@realhuman2545 if aim assist was the biggest deciding factor to everyone's aim on console everyone should be good at it. But of course that's not the case. Also if a constant high ranking player who's also been one of the most informative people in the community say it. It's most likely true.
@@darklight1171 Nothing that you just said suggests realhuman is wrong. The clips only exist because he has a legal aimbot. That doesn't mean he is an unskilled player, but he's not able to show him out aiming these players because he's doing very little actual aiming compared to the pc players. Aimbots should not exist in pc inclusive tournaments.
@@RoseGoldKR if you really believe aim assist is aimbot than you must not play enough console. Plus he could probably do it on PC too? (His top 500 on PC too so like I said even without aim bot he probably could) Aim assist at best gives a baby tug in a direction and even than most the time in group fights it makes it hard to focus one person (which is why people usually lower it or use very specific settings) most of the time you won't even notice the aim assist.
No way PC warriors are really whining about the debatable best DPS console player winning against high ranking PC players. His been playing the game for years and honed his aim to the best you probably can almost downplaying years of work to just "aim assist" is pathetic.
Left trigger for pulse is wild… I would fat finger that instantly. Keep up the good controller plays. As a controller rein player on pc they don’t realize that we’re simply “goated on the sticks”
Left trigger for pulse is the way, just have to get used to it. That way you don't have to take your thumbs off your movement and aim sticks. Can also do d-pad right but it's not as good.
To be able to play tracer like this in general is so rare and on console being this good is even more rare. I can’t wait for Overwatch’s plans for ximmers so people like you can get the credit and recognition you deserve. This is OWL level gameplay and decision making 😮
Just recently had a hater who was non stop shit talking console players, I told them to watch this video to show that a console player can dominate two ex owl players, thank you for accomplishing this Hcpeful🙏
Like Custa said, idk enough about console overwatch but all I can say is this is killer gameplay. Reminds me of the days of hitting flicks on COD with just my controller
The thing about console top players that dont xim. Because controller makes dependance on aim to cover mistakes difficult. They generally have to utilize positioning and making aiming easier through movement.
Tbf, I'm diamond on console and at this point most my games are just ximmers, I'm pretty sure the top like 20% of our playerbase is just xims at this point so the odds are incredibly high. But the console players that are in that 20% and use controller arent even human and they prob make top 500 pc look bad because those players play with aim assisted pc players all day. So that tracer is either a ximmer or plays against really good players that use xims all day which idk which is more scary 😂
@@SandlerShephordI swear people just go yapping about xim, but haven’t actually seen one smh. like bro there are almost no ximers in dia 🤣. Like people don’t xim before gm, and if they do they are so bad that it doesn’t even matter
also hate to break it but I can confirm that 2 people “Jacko” and “EV4RGREEN” is keyboard he used to upload dps Lucio montages back in the day on twitter and it was clear mkb and his dps isn’t good but also mkb idk if he uses it still but most likely does
Jacko used to play pharah if I remember correctly and he was the type of guy you saw when you load into game and think “better lube up so he doesn’t fuck us so rough”
As a former t500 player on PS4 the most difficult thing form me was learning how to aim on mouse and keyboard. The game knowledge is the same it was just an input difference. And I have made it to t500 on pc back in OW1 and now in OW2 I just don’t grind and phi’s as hard anymore.
guys I do NOT xim lol if you guys watch my stream for a bit (ttv hcpefui :3) you can see my settings and gameplay and it's just not what a ximmer would play on. maybe one day in the future tho ill upload a handcam game...
@@gobbagoo that’s a good point. It really makes me wonder how well this console team would do in OWCS considering they just smoked Overwashed who do decent in opens even tho they haven’t qualified for groups yet.
Tracer being good on console makes so much sense. The hardest part about her loadout is managment of all her tools combined with having insane mechanics in the close range. With how console works tracking in close range is alot easier and 360s are as well because there is no reset period just simply turning and shooting. That is why I think Hopeful can make calls and use the real power in tracers movement to the best capability. Console players are better in some scenarios in Apex compared to Pc so it makes a lot of sense why this gameplay is so good.
what are your thoughts on ximmers? Like, what u think of that in general and how to play against them in ranked. I personally find it so discouraging to play the game as it is right now with so much games with people having this crazy unfair advantage.
Depends on your rank. In high elo the difference between controller and xim is negligible considering to be that rank they need similar lvls of mechanics. Play against them like any other smurf/good player.
It can suck to play against and it can feel super oppressive. But unless you're in GM the ximmers probably fucking boosted by the fact they xim and most likely have worse positioning and game sense for the rank they're in. I'd advise going flankers and just trying to pester them and taking 2v1s rather than taking straight duels.
And people insist controller players need aim assist to compete in fps games vs mnk. You're insanely talented and I'm sure it took a lot of practice to get to this level, that's awesome.
yea tbh I can tell this isnt ximming I used to play on console too I can see it cause of his aim movement + the directions hes blinking on joystick you cant blink exactly where you want on pc cause of WASD. is really impressive the fact that you proved console players can be as good as PC players definitely subbed bro
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They are ximming. Stop fronting. I know hopeful isnt his tracking is atrocious. I stopped watching after first fight.
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either you’re trolling or you are a clown. Hcpe is a known controller player.
well i wouldn't be surprise if every console player who hit the highest rank isn't doing that i mean take a look at fortnite you cant tell all those controller players wasn't cheating
@@rxgz5722where did Fortnite come from lmao. And they don’t even cheat xd
No, he is not Ximmer. Look at the way how he is jumping. Jump - move - jump - move. Because he press X on the controller with thumb and after that puts his thumb on the right stick. His jumping always straight.
I don't blame the streamers for thinking that the top players are most likely ximming. Console is a cesspool for ximmers and a good portion of top 500 are ximmers anyway so its not like the streamers are entirely incorrect. Props to you hopeful btw for sticking to the controller
Only reason it’s a weird statement is because Jay has literally had most of the people on this team on his channel multiple times and knows they aren’t xim
^ yup, jay had to have known
@@steggyweggy take a joke sissy 💀
@@steggyweggyyou’re here talking about it thought right? i think jay probably knows people are gonna wanna clip for console players lol
@@steggyweggytbf i feel like content creators often make these kind of comments to farm clips for eachother
Happy to find someone with high sr on console that doesnt xim, so much respect frfr
xD
He does xim
@@XedMDhe doesn’t
poor apply went mainstream and had to hang w the retirement home
💀💀💀
😂😂
Dot speak of my goat like that🗣
I watch these on Jay3's channel too. Seriously the console vs pc vids are so fun to watch, and it's nice for console players to get some respect.
Also, your tip on switching tracer pulse to LT was an enormous help. I just need to get more consistent with my spacing on blink melees. It's hard to perfect that, so huge respect for making it look so damn easy.
Thank you! I love watching those videos just to see the pc meatriders squirm in chat and comments. Pc players are so toxic… even though anyone who makes any progress w a controller is just gonna be accused of cheating or belittled because we have to use our thumbs to aim (therefore we get aim assist) and not our entire arm
“To be champ 3 they’re gonna have to be ximming right?” Nah that’s just my 🐐
quite strange that jay3 said that considering how many times he’s played / watched these console players and he knows they’re not ximming
@@jaykrb it’s good for montages
to be honest we never seen hcpful controller before
@@mxsayianI mean we don’t have to when we can just watch the footage and see he’s clearly not xim
@@jaykrbJay just says stuff to troll all the time. Especially about console. Bro has gotten shit on by console players multiple times but then always insinuates console players are trash still. I find it mildly annoying, but it’s just his style of humor
KarQ is the goat "even without aim assist they would of smoked us" he don't underestimate he just estimates
Thats just not true though. Without aim assist 95% of these clips wouldnt be possible. Only exceptions being when the enemy is standing still.
@@realhuman2545 if aim assist was the biggest deciding factor to everyone's aim on console everyone should be good at it. But of course that's not the case. Also if a constant high ranking player who's also been one of the most informative people in the community say it. It's most likely true.
@@darklight1171 Nothing that you just said suggests realhuman is wrong. The clips only exist because he has a legal aimbot. That doesn't mean he is an unskilled player, but he's not able to show him out aiming these players because he's doing very little actual aiming compared to the pc players. Aimbots should not exist in pc inclusive tournaments.
@@RoseGoldKR if you really believe aim assist is aimbot than you must not play enough console. Plus he could probably do it on PC too? (His top 500 on PC too so like I said even without aim bot he probably could) Aim assist at best gives a baby tug in a direction and even than most the time in group fights it makes it hard to focus one person (which is why people usually lower it or use very specific settings) most of the time you won't even notice the aim assist.
No way PC warriors are really whining about the debatable best DPS console player winning against high ranking PC players. His been playing the game for years and honed his aim to the best you probably can almost downplaying years of work to just "aim assist" is pathetic.
I cant comprehend being this good with sticks smh
He’s not on sticks
i saw some overwatch league or contenders footage, i forgot which one, but this one tracer was cracked and even stuck a valking mercy
@@XedMD it's literally obvious he is but like okay??
ur genuinely the goat, you ran those lobbies
Left trigger for pulse is wild… I would fat finger that instantly. Keep up the good controller plays. As a controller rein player on pc they don’t realize that we’re simply “goated on the sticks”
Probably very easy to fat finger as you said but it does help when you’re trying to aim it on someone
Not related but do you play any other characters than rein? If so how did you get used to no aim assist?
Left trigger for pulse is the way, just have to get used to it. That way you don't have to take your thumbs off your movement and aim sticks. Can also do d-pad right but it's not as good.
@@HammerHead-yx5dy Never had aim assist on rein to begin with just cause it messed up my fire strikes, I play Winston, brig, Moria on controller also.
@@Popejohn3 That’s why i was asking about the aim assist, Those characters are better without it anyway imo. Thanks for the reply though
They actually looked like fucking silvers playing those games. Have no ideia what karq was expecting standing still in windows against a widowmaker
karq has been boosted since day 1
@@TheIncinerator12completely naïve statement. Sure KarQ played pretty poorly but you’re underestimating the standard of these console players.
If they were genuinely trying to win I don't know why tf they Had Jay3 on Tracer. Bro hasn't been above average on that hero since he had hair
console wasn’t good, pc just didn’t care. console played like their lives depended on it meanwhile it’s just another custom game for pc
@@XedMDapply clearly cared he was getting upset lol
The fine motor control you have is insane. I can’t imagine being able to control my thumbs so well 😂
That was an insane watch 🤯 you’re my inspiration bro, also really well edited! 👏🏻
Bro am i tripping or the other team all top 500 pc players looking like bots against controller player Lmfao
They’re masters & gm this szn I don’t think they’re top 500 rn
only good players are apply and emong but the rest are the old folk in a retirement center
@@chocolatmilkgod7973 why are you hating 💀
@@zaivixyGM is top 500 rn
@@SalvionOW no champ 5 and champ 4 are
To be able to play tracer like this in general is so rare and on console being this good is even more rare. I can’t wait for Overwatch’s plans for ximmers so people like you can get the credit and recognition you deserve. This is OWL level gameplay and decision making 😮
Playing against washed up streamers isn’t “owl level gameplay” 😂
@@XedMD why tf u replying to every comment to write a hate comment 💀 you genuinely sound mad asf for no reason
@@TamWam_ im chillin, just don’t know why people acting like console was impressive lol
HCPEFUL MORE LIKE GOATFUL 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Actually an inspiration to the controller scene❤️ thank you for proving controller can dominate too , keep it up !
Well ya when aim assist is allowed
@@dSYNYSTERb aim assist in this game is terrible compared to other games, that’s why you barley see it work in the pro scene😂🤦🏾♂️hcpful just better
@@kassidystrain2323 there is no aim assist in the pro scene. That's ridiculous
He’s not on controller
@@XedMD what's he on?
I would never in a million years had thought someone could get such good aim with a controller. Awesome stuff man 👏
The literal goat of console
cap
@@lilultralightthen who?
@@Alex_agamerimo sjp
@@Intrigedthoughtsdifference is sjp is a ximmer with a huge ego
Now I know this montage is abt to be fire
Would be fun if they did a single competitive season with crossplay experiment
This would be fun af
no you really dont want crossplay in ranked modes (from apex experience)
@@louisedyhlen3234for a season it would be cool. Like how they have events for comp such as mystery heroes
Low ranks would suffer massively
way too many ximmers for that. I would say enable aim assist on pc maybe? but that might not work either
Hey man thanks for show me and many others that console players can compete and sometimes surpass PC players
gapping apply bro i’ve waited too long for days like these 🤧
Just recently had a hater who was non stop shit talking console players, I told them to watch this video to show that a console player can dominate two ex owl players, thank you for accomplishing this Hcpeful🙏
POOKIE UPLOADED 😩
It would be dope to see a handcam! 🔥
I was just thinking this. It legit doesn't look like any controller play I've seen.
Absolutely crazy.
pc players when console has fast sens/can aim/can keep up against pc: 😱
these people literally live on the game what do u expect 😭
He’s on xim so he’ll never handcam
He literally showed us the exact controller he used and went in depth on how he plays multiple times
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory nope you loser he hasn’t
Like Custa said, idk enough about console overwatch but all I can say is this is killer gameplay. Reminds me of the days of hitting flicks on COD with just my controller
The thing about console top players that dont xim. Because controller makes dependance on aim to cover mistakes difficult. They generally have to utilize positioning and making aiming easier through movement.
You have to consistently kill people with literal aimbot in every high level lobby on console. Positioning and timing are super, super important.
Can you make a video with controller cam?
He doesn’t use controller
@@XedMD yes he does
@@TamWam_ keep believing that
XIMMers EXposed 😂. Crazy how people don’t take console seriously then get absolutely shit on. “Must be mouse n keyboard 🤔”
Tbf, I'm diamond on console and at this point most my games are just ximmers, I'm pretty sure the top like 20% of our playerbase is just xims at this point so the odds are incredibly high.
But the console players that are in that 20% and use controller arent even human and they prob make top 500 pc look bad because those players play with aim assisted pc players all day. So that tracer is either a ximmer or plays against really good players that use xims all day which idk which is more scary 😂
Tbf this guy is fucking insane + low ranked console is dog
@@SandlerShephordyou're just shit bud. No way ximmers are common in diamond and if they are, they probably play like shit diamonds.
@@IZONE_FANIf anything, low rank console players are better than low rank pc players but the moment you hit diamond, pc is better
@@SandlerShephordI swear people just go yapping about xim, but haven’t actually seen one smh. like bro there are almost no ximers in dia 🤣. Like people don’t xim before gm, and if they do they are so bad that it doesn’t even matter
also hate to break it but I can confirm that 2 people “Jacko” and “EV4RGREEN” is keyboard he used to upload dps Lucio montages back in the day on twitter and it was clear mkb and his dps isn’t good but also mkb idk if he uses it still but most likely does
Jacko used to play pharah if I remember correctly and he was the type of guy you saw when you load into game and think “better lube up so he doesn’t fuck us so rough”
The last Ximgations before all of them are gone 😂 Season 11 is gonna be so good for us! 💪
this video was so satisfying
I really enjoyed watching this!
As a former t500 player on PS4 the most difficult thing form me was learning how to aim on mouse and keyboard. The game knowledge is the same it was just an input difference. And I have made it to t500 on pc back in OW1 and now in OW2 I just don’t grind and phi’s as hard anymore.
guys I do NOT xim lol if you guys watch my stream for a bit (ttv hcpefui :3) you can see my settings and gameplay and it's just not what a ximmer would play on. maybe one day in the future tho ill upload a handcam game...
Yo, do you know when these games happened? I wanted to go back in the streamers vods and watch them but i cant find the right vods lol
Shut up bozo you’ll never do a handcam
@@The13omb same i've seen some jay3 controller vs PC but not these
This is my 🐐 representing the console players
This is my first time watching you, and it took me a solid 5 minutes to see that you are on a roller lmao 😂
It took you 5 mins to tell he's on controller? Yikes. Not like his buttons aren't controller keys or anything
@@solarwings1132 I know lmao. Was too invested with the gameplay
Bro had me at the edge of my seat with every play he made
UR FINALLY BACK!
anyone know when n which tournament it was? id love to see their perspectives, great vid hopeful! ❤️🔥
Pretty sure OWCS?
@@TizzyProductions123 ty
Amazing as always Leo
Way to represent console/controller bro good shit!
He’s not on controller
@@XedMD whatever helps u sleep at night lol. did u also just like ur own comment 😂
@@thelaxhubtm4093 keep thinking he’s on controller, whatever helps you sleep
@@XedMD are u in gold or plat?
@@thelaxhubtm4093 give me your btag and find out yourself
Dude, the Undertale sound track in 2024 goes hard
Earned a subscriber today, bud❤
HCPEFUL UPLOAD REPRESENTING CONSOLE🙏🐐
THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT
im not beimg doubtful, but can we atleast get a pov with your hands and screen?
So satisfying to watch
Sick and aspiring gameplay. Do you do coaching?
Wait, was this OWCS open qualifiers or just a scrim? If it’s OWCS, I didn’t know console could compete
looks like a scrim bc it doesnt end at point cap
@@gobbagoo that’s a good point. It really makes me wonder how well this console team would do in OWCS considering they just smoked Overwashed who do decent in opens even tho they haven’t qualified for groups yet.
Undertale music goes crazy
I love your channel man new subscriber. Make us console players proud. Seeing it can be done. Competing with pc players
I still remember when this guy rolled my tram on widow and as a tank i couldnt do anything
Tracer being good on console makes so much sense. The hardest part about her loadout is managment of all her tools combined with having insane mechanics in the close range. With how console works tracking in close range is alot easier and 360s are as well because there is no reset period just simply turning and shooting. That is why I think Hopeful can make calls and use the real power in tracers movement to the best capability. Console players are better in some scenarios in Apex compared to Pc so it makes a lot of sense why this gameplay is so good.
Top 10 reasons to not underestimate a console player
1.This video
jus started using ur sens and its so good🙏🙏🙏
HCPEFUL UPLOAD YIPPIIIIIIII
where can I find to watch the entire thing ?
Have u always been good? I’ve recent got masters after climbing from silver but feel plateaued. Is ow a natural skill?
Hope the goat always getting accused of cheating, great edit and content❤
jay3 *EXPOSED* "Hcpeful" FOR XIMMING??
Why has hcpeful not uploaded a controller cam to prove he’s not xim (unless he has and I haven’t seen it)
he's either insecure about his hands, or he's just actually actually cheating.
And blizzard still won’t let this man compete.
it took me 3 minutes to even realize that this was controller cuz it was so clean lmao
He’s not on controller
@@XedMDbro forgot how to look at rb and lb buttons literally on screen
@@elijahgrow8821 when you xim, the buttons will still show up as whatever platform you're playing on
Golly gee, this dude is gaming
9.5/10 needs more megalovania
He knows how to control that stick realllll good
the fact that the movement IS FULL CONTROLLER, this aint a ximmer and its actually scary good
He’s not on controller
10:34 I know the song is from undertake just like the other ones used in the vid, but which one is it?
Keep it up bro ur talented 😉
what are your thoughts on ximmers? Like, what u think of that in general and how to play against them in ranked. I personally find it so discouraging to play the game as it is right now with so much games with people having this crazy unfair advantage.
Depends on your rank. In high elo the difference between controller and xim is negligible considering to be that rank they need similar lvls of mechanics. Play against them like any other smurf/good player.
It can suck to play against and it can feel super oppressive. But unless you're in GM the ximmers probably fucking boosted by the fact they xim and most likely have worse positioning and game sense for the rank they're in. I'd advise going flankers and just trying to pester them and taking 2v1s rather than taking straight duels.
How do you even have such game sense for this engagement timing. Wtf
Where could I watch the full games?
How did you play with aim assist on against pc?
He isnt ximming, hes hcpeful.
Seeing widow rise in the sunset was beautiful 15:54
Pooping on apply is crazy on his own hero is bananas 🍌
this dude is the faze sway of ow lmao
I was in emonggs stream when this happened; he gave you your respect before it started.
Way too good. I need what you're on.
Aim assist
Your aim is so good, your sense seems sm faster on Xbox than it is on ps
To everyone who’s saying xim hcpful has 2 videos about his settings on overwatch including button layout and 1 video about his controller
WWWW!!! do you remember the stream names? or at least jay3’s? i’d like to watch the replay
This has gotta be Profit in an alternate timeline where he only plays on xbox
am i seeing this right?..... your on CONSOLE?????? i dont GET IT HOW THO i aint this goated like how do you do it
“Make Xbox great again.” 🗣️🔥
I haven't ever played on NA but I have played with Jacko. It's good to see fellow console players giving these bots the work 😂😂
Calling them bots is a bit much, sure he rolled them. But that shows he is just really good, and the team work was better overall.
That's my console goats right there!
Laawwddd had no mercy
And people insist controller players need aim assist to compete in fps games vs mnk.
You're insanely talented and I'm sure it took a lot of practice to get to this level, that's awesome.
this makes me wanna this console team in this vid against some like owl players wonder how would it go
Hand cam ❤ next upload
Yo hcpeful do you mainly solo queue or party?
what monitor do you have?
yea tbh I can tell this isnt ximming I used to play on console too I can see it cause of his aim movement + the directions hes blinking on joystick you cant blink exactly where you want on pc cause of WASD. is really impressive the fact that you proved console players can be as good as PC players definitely subbed bro
How to people think this is xim? 😂😂😂
Ive seen everyt but this, just clean gameplay
u need to do a controller cam
Is your dead zones still 13 96? For right stick?
Bro please do an updated settings guide. You just too goated i must follow in you steps XD