The United Kingdom of the Netherlands: History Matters (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • @RmsOceanic
    @RmsOceanic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3991

    Of all your running jokes, reform being represented by a "Be Better" sign is the most underrated.

    • @lolokernic6746
      @lolokernic6746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      A favorite of mine is the sign "back luck" always followed up by the execution of the person adressed by it.

    • @maddie9602
      @maddie9602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@lolokernic6746 Or the thump whenever someone dies

    • @Hannodb1961
      @Hannodb1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Sometimes he just says "change stuff"

    • @totallyaploy1824
      @totallyaploy1824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Fun fact: no

    • @nivajaranjit4322
      @nivajaranjit4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Theres also ''stars yo'' on american flag

  • @mrhpijl
    @mrhpijl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +972

    "France wasn't allowed to have nice things"
    British official foreign policy for over 500 years

    • @joshbentley2307
      @joshbentley2307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      *1000

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Interestingly, I read somewhere that Napoleon III's government once offered take over the protector role of Belgium from Britain, but the British refused as they feared this would cause too much strife and be seen as provocative by the major German states (notably Prussia).

    • @olivierlarrieux8261
      @olivierlarrieux8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@thunderbird1921 Finally, a state was created by the English to bring together 2 peoples who hated each other: the Dutch speakers and the French speakers.
      Today, almost two centuries later, they still do not understand each other. They have different political parties, different newspapers and refuse to speak the other's language. Everything would have been much simpler if after the Napoleonic wars, all these French-speaking lands had remained French.

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@olivierlarrieux8261 I've often said that Belgium really isn't a country, but more a loose union of 2-3 microstates under one crown, and that share a parliament (we must not forget the German region). It's one of the most bizarre "nations" I've ever seen.

    • @mrfreeman2911
      @mrfreeman2911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thunderbird1921 try Switzerland :D
      They have 4 languages.

  • @lennox285679
    @lennox285679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3291

    "Neither Belgium or the Netherlands were invited in case you were wondering"
    hmm...reminds me of another conference....

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Which one?

    • @user-eu6sj2gj1t
      @user-eu6sj2gj1t 5 ปีที่แล้ว +539

      Literally every conference ever

    • @lennox285679
      @lennox285679 5 ปีที่แล้ว +711

      @@cv4809 Munich Agreement, the one where Britain and France decided Czechoslovakia's fate.

    • @GeneralissimusStalin17
      @GeneralissimusStalin17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      *MUNICH CONFERENCE INTENSIFIES*

    • @derljackson5365
      @derljackson5365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@cv4809 treaty of versails?

  • @jackingtonfoxpickle4861
    @jackingtonfoxpickle4861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5619

    To be fair to the UK. They honoured the heck out of that Belgian neutrality deal.

    • @the12th68
      @the12th68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +378

      Jackington Foxpickle and whe are very thankfull for it.

    • @RedbadofFrisia
      @RedbadofFrisia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +394

      It's well documented that the British would have gotten involved anyways, this was just fortunate for them.

    • @the12th68
      @the12th68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Redbad of Frisia fortunate in an unfortunate situation.

    • @GenkiGanbare
      @GenkiGanbare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      And have been Portugal's ally through the very worst of times. The UK is really good at making good on its promises to white european countries. Not so great at keeping promises it makes to everybody else.

    • @firefox3249
      @firefox3249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@GenkiGanbare Didn't they only remember Portugal when it was most convenient for them?

  • @uncleflagzz
    @uncleflagzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +912

    "Napoleon the 1st, who was exiled, never to be seen again"
    **not even 2 minutes later**
    "That was, until Napoleon came back"

    • @jamesk5541
      @jamesk5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Germany lost the first world war never to be seen again
      Until Germany came back in the second world war

    • @edwinhuang9244
      @edwinhuang9244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jamesk5541 Meanwhile, Grover Cleveland became the president.
      Then, he stopped being the president never to be seen again.
      Until he became president again.

    • @konighartzderiv.4898
      @konighartzderiv.4898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but now Germany is indeed gone forever.
      It looks like nobody can defeat Germany fully...only Germany itself can do that...and it did.

    • @charakiga
      @charakiga ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right after they said never to be seen again you can see a subtile "1815 *spoilers*" 0:27
      I love this channel.

    • @silverwriter6739
      @silverwriter6739 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Somehow, Napoleon returned..."

  • @samdoesvids1339
    @samdoesvids1339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +977

    2:48 loving the subtle ISP reference!

    • @Bachars
      @Bachars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Lol I wanted to write it...

    • @PaulEIvory
      @PaulEIvory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      RULE BELGICA!!

    • @crusader7659
      @crusader7659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      The next video will be less subtle, artillery only challenge

    • @JukeboxTheGhoul
      @JukeboxTheGhoul 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn't he already do that... the FIrst World War? @@crusader7659

    • @crusader7659
      @crusader7659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JukeboxTheGhoul That doesn't count, there was spicy wind too

  • @Espingol
    @Espingol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2073

    Could you do an episode about the Kalmar Union?

    • @LawlaGaming
      @LawlaGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Name checks out

    • @50shekels
      @50shekels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Ragnar Of Scandinavia “please tell me how great I am”

    • @sarpbakrsoy8125
      @sarpbakrsoy8125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Hugo No, it isn't.

    • @cxarhomell5867
      @cxarhomell5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hugo a No it isn't.

    • @secretcommunist7930
      @secretcommunist7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sarpbakrsoy8125 how late can you be

  • @subhelm6394
    @subhelm6394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2718

    Wtf, Belgium isn’t even a real country
    -William I

    • @Discontinuedalready7372
      @Discontinuedalready7372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      _"It is now."_
      _-Leopold I_

    • @MajorBluesZ
      @MajorBluesZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      Im belgian to be honest sometimes i dont get my country i rather have a full dutch speaking country

    • @Discontinuedalready7372
      @Discontinuedalready7372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@MajorBluesZ
      _Why dont you move to Netherlands instead, you orangist_

    • @MajorBluesZ
      @MajorBluesZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Kenny Kenny BurritoTM or i stay here and we form dietsland search it up

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@MajorBluesZ Wich DietsIand, the onIy "Remove WaIIonians" or the "Integrate waIIonians" one?
      And yeah, you're a freaking Iunatic

  • @thatfighterguy5846
    @thatfighterguy5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3908

    "Because France isn't allowed to have nice things"
    Literally dying of laughter.

    • @francehasbeenthemostimport9558
      @francehasbeenthemostimport9558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      That what you get when you have been the envy of Europe post Rome

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      *Peak France intensifies*

    • @wholelifeahead
      @wholelifeahead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@francehasbeenthemostimport9558 I N C O R R E C T

    • @carlosalbertofernandezvele7574
      @carlosalbertofernandezvele7574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      Nice things France couldn't keep
      Canada ❌
      Navarre ❌
      Belgium ❌
      Army winter uniforms ❌
      World Cup 2006❌
      Euro 2016 ❌

    • @gijspinxteren8637
      @gijspinxteren8637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      France has been the most important power post-Rome Your the ‘envy’ of Europe. Lol stop being pathetic

  • @bluedevil3765
    @bluedevil3765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +603

    Excellent video! Most Belgians aren't really aware of this but in 1790 we already declared our independence once as the "United Belgian States" after a revolt against the Habsburg emperor. It was however soon afterwards recaptured by the Austrians.

    • @Edmonton-of2ec
      @Edmonton-of2ec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ewww feudal republics...
      🤢

    • @flybeep1661
      @flybeep1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Black Order Also, different shape, different shades of colors and different arrangement. But I guess it's hard to tell apart for the blind and stupid.

    • @adamkerman475
      @adamkerman475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Whatareyoudoinnhere money

    • @nielsvanmook9959
      @nielsvanmook9959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even today the dutch say that belgium got independence in 1839 although it is actualy 1830

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whatareyoudoinnhere Austrian Netherlands was the most developed province of the Empire, with lot of excellent universities, dense population, highly productive agriculture, rich trade places at the heart of Europe. but yes it was difficult to defend against the French.

  • @Tony.H03
    @Tony.H03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    We really should spend more time on this dynamic in Dutch history classes. We basically just go: well yea Belgium was with us for like 10 minutes after Vienna, but then it wasn't.

    • @crazyciler50
      @crazyciler50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      In belgium we go way deeper, we learned all the flaws of the dutch king and all the scams he tried to pull on the flemish and the french speaker...

    • @KofteG61
      @KofteG61 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@crazyciler50 That's probably why they don't teach it, because it makes the king look bad. I also remember in my history books it only mentioned very briefly that Indonesia declared independence. Not one word about a war they fought there.

    • @r.v.b.4153
      @r.v.b.4153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      In my Dutch history classes, we actually talked much more elaborately about it; we even had discussions about it.
      It depends on your school and your school level. We also paid much more attention to the "politionele acties" KofteG61 mentions in his comment.

    • @r.v.b.4153
      @r.v.b.4153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crazyciler50
      Why don't you elaborate; I'm curious.

    • @crazyciler50
      @crazyciler50 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      R. V. B. Omda da meer dan 8 les uren waren en genen tijd heb om tijdens dour daar een synthese van te maken...

  • @pingu9359
    @pingu9359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +469

    Please do one about the Anglo Dutch wars.

    • @g.w.f.212
      @g.w.f.212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      which one? lol

    • @fransbuijs808
      @fransbuijs808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@g.w.f.212
      All of them!

    • @bpdbhp1632
      @bpdbhp1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@g.w.f.212 he says warS

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@g.w.f.212 Yes

  • @sarcasmal5744
    @sarcasmal5744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1212

    'Belgian Lives Matter'
    Lol ISP

    • @aleksandarvil5718
      @aleksandarvil5718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @Sarcasmal
      2:48 - *_William Orange Man Bad_*
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Racist

    • @VictorSanchez-pk1iv
      @VictorSanchez-pk1iv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “ANTI-GERMAN”

    • @maddie9602
      @maddie9602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What is ISP? I assume you're not referring to Internet Service Providers.

    • @sarcasmal5744
      @sarcasmal5744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@maddie9602 ISP stands for ISorrowProductions, a youtuber known for playing a wide variety of games. He founded the 'Belgian Lives Matter' movement as a sort of mickey-take of Black Lives Matter

  • @weirdpotato2002
    @weirdpotato2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Germany invaded neutral Belgium.
    UK “ hold my tea”

    • @itzimperiumxvi2620
      @itzimperiumxvi2620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Governor nah my dude bring it to the tanks

  • @50shekels
    @50shekels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    0:23 “never to be seen again”
    Napoleon 1815: whaddup

    • @arnold3768
      @arnold3768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      0:29 *spoilers*

    • @50shekels
      @50shekels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kira youre sad

    • @gottalivehappy
      @gottalivehappy ปีที่แล้ว

      Sarcasm in these video is very powerful

  • @xsellepoch9954
    @xsellepoch9954 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    0:52 “If it were independent, it wouldn’t stand too much of a chance in the event of war”
    Well, he’s not wrong

    • @MDP1702
      @MDP1702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It is not like the dutch did any better. Considering everytime Belgium in both ww's put up more of a fight than the Netherlands in 1940. A united kingdom of the Netherlands thus likely wouldn't have been much stronger overall anyway.

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MDP1702 well it has always been the case that Belgium had a better army then the dutch other then right after the revolution. Even in the sorry state it's in right now it would probably still beat the dutch in a war. All the while the dutch always had and still have the better fleet

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MDP1702 Belgium wasn't defeated in WW1 though. It was close, but they weren't

    • @MDP1702
      @MDP1702 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan I didn't say they did? Considering they didn't surrender then, they put up a better fight than the dutch in WW2

  • @Nikki-tx6kh
    @Nikki-tx6kh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    Belgium: Yo Holland, we want to be independent.
    Holland: F*** No
    Belgium: I'll give you the 12 points in Eurovision every year.
    Holland: Keep talking.

    • @markdombrovan8849
      @markdombrovan8849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @legkip legkip the impression I got from the video is that people were mostly upset because of taxes, and while there were other separating factors, it would not be too far-fetched to say that we could've had a United Benelux in our current day in age, if not for those taxes

    • @You-mr3lo
      @You-mr3lo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Holland isnt a country..The Netherlands is.
      Greetings from a Dutchman (Not a Hollander)
      .

    • @Nikki-tx6kh
      @Nikki-tx6kh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@You-mr3lo But the truth is outside The Netherlands, the terms Holland and Netherlands are interchangable. Like in Eurovison you are The Netherlands, but your Drag Race uses Holland.

    • @RK-cj4oc
      @RK-cj4oc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Nikki-tx6kh No they are not. Tell me what country you are from and ill explain even better. Just say Netherlands. Not Holland. Its insulting to the better part of the country to be named after them.

    • @patheticmellow4556
      @patheticmellow4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RK-cj4oc in arabic we say hollanda to refer to the netherlands we have no word for the netherlands idk why tho.

  • @tim_mothy
    @tim_mothy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I absolutely love your videos. They are so wholesome and pure compared to the rest of TH-cam. I love the animation, the artwork, your soothing voice. The historical figures are hilarious! Keep up the great work!

  • @buttersurge8047
    @buttersurge8047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    Belgium basically became nothing more but a British built speed bump into France

    • @aleksandarvil5718
      @aleksandarvil5718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Will Wow It's actually threepoint of Germany, France, and Great Britain's aspirations and pretences

    • @buttersurge8047
      @buttersurge8047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      A gigantic German pit stop on there way too France

    • @jeanbiroute
      @jeanbiroute 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How time have changed.

    • @Deelom100
      @Deelom100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@buttersurge8047 Sadly yes

    • @Flight_of_Icarus
      @Flight_of_Icarus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      At the time, it was more the British built speed bump into Germany, considering the whole Napoleon thing.

  • @GenkiGanbare
    @GenkiGanbare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "Taxes were raised to pay for the king's debts and around half of the country's tax revenue came from the South; yet only 30% of government spending went to it meaning money was simply being funneled to the North. It actually wasn't, not really, it was simply being funneled to the King and his inner circle."
    Mercantilism is so great lmao

    • @SpaceBearEngineer
      @SpaceBearEngineer ปีที่แล้ว

      TIL the proper name for the U.S.'s economic system is "mercantalism"
      That's pretty much the U.S. *especially* under any conservative administration. The less-conservative states have most of the population and industry and pay the vast majority of taxes, while federal expenditures pay for the entire (largely agrarian and low-wage labor) economies of conservative states. These economies are largely built around funneling money into the pockets of the ruling conservatives rich friends (who hire them as "consultants" once they retire from government).

  • @h.oebele318
    @h.oebele318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    3:55 Both Luxembourg and the Province of Limburg were split in 1839. The Grand Duchy was part of the German Confederation and because the GC 'lost' the western part of Luxembourg to Belgium, the eastern part of Limburg became both dutch as part of the German Confederation (until the Prussian-Austrian War in 1866). There was also a neutral part between Belgium and Germany called Neutral Moresnet, that existed for 100 years (Waterloo - WWI).

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      H.Oebele
      That was a complicated treaty!

    • @deniskerckhofs5936
      @deniskerckhofs5936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very interesting story indeed. I'm from the territory of Neutral Moresnest, it has a different name now though. Not many people know about our history but lots of saxophones and Parisian roofs were made from the zinc mined on our territory. That mine was the reason why we became neutral as the great powers if Europe did not agree amongst themselves who would get it.

    • @gunterke
      @gunterke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That treaty (London) also was where the 3 great powers recognized Belgiums neutrality. Not just Britain, but also France and Prussia (later Germany). Needless to say, in 1914 Germany interpreted this differently from Britain.

    • @commando2113
      @commando2113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gunterke and Russia

    • @michielp1922
      @michielp1922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      neutral moresnet actually existed before belgium, it was made in 1816 as a nation both owned by prussia and the netherlands, since it was one of the only zink mines in europe and they both wanted it

  • @pimcramer2569
    @pimcramer2569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    History lesson in the Netherlands was seriously hard. We have like infinite amount of founding dates. To make things even more complicated, the father of William the first was William th fifth

    • @aniqsufyan2113
      @aniqsufyan2113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Unfortunately, that's how monarchy works. See William I 's dad was the fifth prince of orange so it makes sense for him to be William V. If William I were to be the prince of orange in the same way his father is, he would be William VI. But instead, he was proclaimed King of the Netherlands and by right as the first king, gets to use William I.

    • @Mqtisse
      @Mqtisse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aniqsufyan2113 except if u a Duke of Savoy, who even when the became kings of Sardegna, still kept their numbering

    • @rheijm9201
      @rheijm9201 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pim ik zeg altijd al, ze hadden de Van Zuylen Tuyll moeten vragen voor de rol. Bella de poëet.. ze waren niet volks genoeg, visitez Oud Zuylen maintenant, un librairie voila

  • @KingNxt
    @KingNxt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:04 That orange dot on the map is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

  • @mertcanozkan7891
    @mertcanozkan7891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Can you do the Jacobite Rebellions ?

  • @JamesTilsley1
    @JamesTilsley1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    “A guarantee Britain would honour 75 years later” (hums God save the Queen with tear in eye)

    • @poppedweasel
      @poppedweasel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Wipe that tear away, son and stiffen that bloody lip.
      (Hums along)

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A very cynical comment of History Matters, because Britain never gave a fuck about Belgium (or Portugal).
      Britain and Germany had been looking for an excuse to go to war with each other ever since 1870 so when Germany supported Austria in its war against Serbia and France supported Russia in defending Serbia against Austria, Germany found itself at war with France and took the short route and Britain had its excuse at last.

    • @animatorofanimation128
      @animatorofanimation128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@ixlnxs "Britain and Germany had been "looking for an excuse to go to war with each other ever since 1870", no, Britain really wasn't. They had practiced a policy of "Splendid isolation" since the Napoleonic wars because the British viewed any intervention in Europe as too costly and not worth it. The French and Russians even asked them directly to join the war and they just refused since they didn't want to get involved. If what you say is true and they just wanted , had a staging ground to send their army to, and their reason was basically as good as France's.
      The British only decided to get involved after they basically had too, you cant just make a guarantee like that and break it when it's convenient (in respect to Europe), the public wouldn't allow it and it would of destroyed their reputation. The invasion (and subsequent warcrimes) that happened to Belgium also heavily pressured the government to fully commit to the war due to public opinion being extremely anti-German, where-as before the public didn't really care
      What's interesting about your comment is that your little note of "(or Portugal") shows that your claim is motivated by a hatred for Britain and not a desire to actually progress the conversation. Portugal is totally irrelevant to the conversation (and not really comparable to Belgium's relationship with Britain) and you didn't even elaborate on why you mentioned it. It's almost like a child just venting its opinion to destress its anger

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@animatorofanimation128 My reference to Portugal was because the UK only honoured their alliance to Portugal whenever it was convenient, but was more than willing to throw Portugal under the bus when not.

    • @maxdavis7722
      @maxdavis7722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ixlnxs why would Britain look for an excuse to go to war with Germany? Britain never wanted war with Germany nor did it have anything to gain. Part of the reason for creating Belgium was to lessen conflict between France and Germany. If Britain wanted to go to war then it would’ve declared war with France at the beginning.

  • @OneOnOne1162
    @OneOnOne1162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Well, they forced us to be neutral and basically a shield and didn't invite us to a conference about our own destiny... but at least they honoured their pledge. Win some lose some, I guess.

  • @lucasv.6373
    @lucasv.6373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Being from Belgium, I still find it a strange country to form! Amazing video as always!

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Just come back

    • @ComptGeorges
      @ComptGeorges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@timvanrijn8239 most dutch speaking flamish would.

    • @oikmijnloly6033
      @oikmijnloly6033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@timvanrijn8239 Als we terug komen hoe zullen walen dan vlaams belastigsgeld moeten stelen?

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@oikmijnloly6033 niet das het mooien gaan ze van die franzosen stelen

    • @jeanbiroute
      @jeanbiroute 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@oikmijnloly6033 als we terug gaan, weg met die sossen!

  • @Hannodb1961
    @Hannodb1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "This was rejected by Brittain, because France wasn't allowed to have nice things"!

  • @superstructure23
    @superstructure23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Here before all the G E K O L O N I S E E R D comments

    • @NikkiMKarLen
      @NikkiMKarLen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two minutes early.

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Zeg makker

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Crick1952 dat zijn geen specerijen

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Infame Brabanders met een vermakelijk spraakgebrek.

    • @hendrikdependrik1891
      @hendrikdependrik1891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wafels zijn geen kokosnoten.

  • @josesoria2072
    @josesoria2072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Something that amaze me quite frequently, is that most of recent history of the world can be traced back to Napoleon I, without him so much things maybe won't happened and is a crazy idea

    • @bobbymorse570
      @bobbymorse570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg there’s literally a video where he’s talking about something and says “To start, we have to go back to Napoleon… It’s always Napoleon…” lol

  • @aaronrussell16
    @aaronrussell16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love your videos and have watched every single one

  • @mylesmorell7625
    @mylesmorell7625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    “Because France wasn’t allowed to have nice things” XD

  • @forshort6769
    @forshort6769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Just a few things.
    1. After the 1830 rebellion certain parts of what is now the south of the Netherlands also joind Belgium and stuck with belgium until like 1838. (It was not simply limburg, also parts of Noord-Brabant and Zeeland.
    2. The french didn't simply rush in to stop the dutch from taking over Belgium again it was Leopold who used his diplomatix network to get France's help thus confirming to the Belgian politicians that he was a vital part of the country. This would also see him handle most international affairs and hold quite some control over the ministers until like 1848-ish.
    3. Atleast name drop 'La muette de Portici' ;)
    4. Explain the Belgian flag's origin and how the revolution flag in 1830 was the Brabantian flag.
    Beside these things it was a really nice video!!!

    • @jeanbiroute
      @jeanbiroute 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should do that to educate readers in the comments. And myself haha

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And our FIag was horizontaI
      And yeah, most of BeIgian popuIation wasn't happy about the french intervention especiaIIy the Iiégois after how they fucked their revoIution some decades ago against the Bishop.
      And how the Hennuyers suffers from French occupation during the napoIeonic wars

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5. Also mention that most Belgians are Dutch speaking. That "Parc du Bruxelles" thing in the video is anachronistic as fuck. Back then it only had the Dutch name Warandepark, which is still one of the two official names today, of course.

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so the opera is widelly debated as far as it's influence, especially since revolutionary riots where already ongoing. I personally believe that was just added because it made for a better story

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ixlnxs6. Walloons spoke Walloon the language not what we call Walloon now which is a "dialect" of french. the bourgeoisie on both sides spoke french though. And the frenchification was more effective because Walloon and french are kinda what Dutch and German are. Also yes other then the bourgeoisie Brussels and the part around it spoke Brabantian dialects (which are of course dutch dialects ergo dutch, but also not as I assume you meant it)

  • @mjr_schneider
    @mjr_schneider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Slightly disappointed. History with Hilbert would have managed to squeeze _at least_ 5 Wilhelmuses into this.

    • @miloskocic1759
      @miloskocic1759 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who he

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      MJR Schneider If Id made this video it would have been a 5 minute long Wilhelmus followed by the statement that Belgium is Southern Netherlands or nothing. But it’s a good thing not every channel is like mine 😉

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@miloskocic1759
      History with Hilbert, historian TH-camr with a tendency to put earrape with the Wilhemus in his videos.

    • @sjakierulez
      @sjakierulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@historywithhilbert Belgium is southern Netherlands, but some of Southern Netherlands is Belgium

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@historywithhilbert Yeah I know, you're kinda BS each time you're making a video about the Netherlands or Belgium

  • @jandevries1300
    @jandevries1300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    All the Catholics be like. We don't want a protestant king speaking a foreign language. The first Belgian king they chose was an aristocratic German speaking protestant. Because that makes sense?!
    Great content by the way. Keep up the good stuff ;)

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For the sake of DipIomacy, and "neutraI" cuIture (Imagine now, if they choose the Count of Hainaut or an Aristocrat from FIanders, how messy it wiII be)

    • @jandevries1300
      @jandevries1300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Valandix They probebly would have chosen a Wallonian French speaking aristocrat. It where mostly French speaking bourgeoisie who wanted independence or annexation by France.

    • @gilianstaelen3087
      @gilianstaelen3087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      jan De vries True, the Dutch speaking Flemish in the north only joined the rebellion because the catholic priest preached in favor for it.

    • @Corbalte
      @Corbalte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jandevries1300 Probably not a walloon (wallonian is not the correct form btw ^^) since most of the elite was were french speaking flemish, most of them coming from Brussel. Furthermore, only a part of the bourgeoisie wanted to be a part of France for one moment, it was the industrial bourgeoisie that feared economical consequences and wanted to still be connected to a big market. That's why the pro-french lobby was almost exclusively constituted from orangists that previously advocated for the reunification with the Nertherland. They changed their stance when it was no longer possible.

    • @dietrichrosiers8184
      @dietrichrosiers8184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It seems that the Liberals their part in the revolution are often forgotten. The Liberals and Catholics worked together (Monsterverbond) to protest against Willem I, and later run a country together. Leopold I was known for being sympathetic to the liberal cause, which made all the Liberals to vote for him. This, and his diplomatic ties to the Great powers, were reasons why he was chosen to be King by Congress.

  • @Thrashmetaltherapy
    @Thrashmetaltherapy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that ending is so good. Like the tone you said that in is amazing

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583
    @mikehydropneumatic2583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In 1839 NL wasn't granted Limburg but only part of it. There are two provinces called Limburg after 1839, one in Belgium the other in NL.

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is also a province in eastern Belgium called Luxembourg, not to be confused with independent Luxembourg.

  • @skeletonrowdie1768
    @skeletonrowdie1768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Oooh so cool that later on the benelux became a stable fundament for a united political eurooe just like the intention of the land was in 1813

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    *Distant Angry Dutch noises*

  • @brandonvestra
    @brandonvestra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    0:18 You're honestly the most sarcastic TH-camr I've ever seen lol

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You've probably never heard of Overly Sarcastic Productions then.

    • @Edmonton-of2ec
      @Edmonton-of2ec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This channel is still more sarcastic

  • @mattbillington4602
    @mattbillington4602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just want to say I’m loving the number of videos coming out recently ❤️ keep up the amazing work

  • @mantis2048
    @mantis2048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cannot get enough of your videos. Please never quit!

  • @magma1lord
    @magma1lord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    we all know this actually started becauce we say patat and they say friet.

    • @proefslak
      @proefslak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      the southern half of the northern Netherlands (a.k.a. the Netherlands nowadays) also says friet mate

    • @magma1lord
      @magma1lord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have to correct you buddy, the correct word is Patat. they can say it yes but we all know its incorrect.

    • @sjakierulez
      @sjakierulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The dish is called Patat, and the things you eat are Frieten

    • @cat5636
      @cat5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sjakierulez no, the vegetable is called patat (in Antwerp)

    • @ppd2349
      @ppd2349 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *sigh* here we go again

  • @lorenzopolito7316
    @lorenzopolito7316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no idea why, but your voice is very relaxing

  • @Deltaflot1701
    @Deltaflot1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And let's not forget Belgium's first king Leopold I, was the widowed husband of the presumptive heir to the British Throne Princess Charlotte and he was beloved enough by the British Government and people that even after Princes Charlotte died, he continued getting a subsidy from the Brits. Plus, Queen Victoria treated him as a favorite uncle.

  • @xeanderman6688
    @xeanderman6688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "a guarantee it'd honor 75 years later"
    And so, much blood was spilled

  • @saladbruh2625
    @saladbruh2625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I would really like to see a video about Serbia from the Berlin congress (1878) untill the end of WW1 (1918) or around that period, it's very interesting to see the transition between Austria-Hungary and Serbia from being friends to WW1.

    • @ComptGeorges
      @ComptGeorges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The key word is Bosnia.

    • @saladbruh2625
      @saladbruh2625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ComptGeorges among other factors yes

    • @ComptGeorges
      @ComptGeorges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@saladbruh2625 Yes, when I think there are even more things, we can even go to 1840s when Serbs in Vojvodina sided with Austria, thus stepping on Hungarian toes which they never forgave and Austrians never repaid, then decrease of Ottoman power, thus Serbia loosing its purpose as an Austrian ally and a buffer state- with its expansionist ambiton this only worsen. Of course the Russian activity in the region with Austrian betrayal of Russia in Crimean war, and the international suport for Serbs during the Herzegovina uprsing, Serbian internal violence between pro-Austrian Obrenovic and pro-Russian Karadjodjevic, the rise of Austrian project of Yugoslavism (J.J. Strossmayer) and Croatian catholic nationalism to counter Serbian orthodox nationalism, then finally Bosnian occupation amd Berlin congress. A lot of shit, this could even be a 10 min..

    • @saladbruh2625
      @saladbruh2625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ComptGeorges exactly all those factors. When Serbia stopped being of use to Austria-Hungary as a buffer state because ottomans were weak and they have occupied Bosnia so there was no more need for a territory that was called "Vojna krajina" or a millitary sector that was once the border that Habsburg empire and ottomans shared and was populated by serbs whose task was to protect the Habsburg empire. There serbs had nicer pay them other serbs of the empire and better lives but the sector was abolished in i think 1888 because it was of no use anymore and serbs there lost their status and were not happy. And most of that territory was in Croatia and serbs back then were at least 40% of population in Croatian territories. They were untill WW2 as well but where either killed or forced to leave by the Ustasa during the war.

    • @ComptGeorges
      @ComptGeorges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saladbruh2625 Well that would be a good educational video.

  • @SvrWxArchive1807
    @SvrWxArchive1807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these seemingly random short videos. It always keeps me on my toes on what's next

  • @noujaadw
    @noujaadw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    2 world wars later and the EU headquarters in brussels, Belgium is infact a buffer state.

    • @commando2113
      @commando2113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope that was the united kingdom of the nederland's that was the buffer state

  • @sirwolfnsuch
    @sirwolfnsuch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    1:16 It was indeed slave-trade that was abolished, but slavery itself continued to be legal until 1863 (and applied until the 1870s as compensation for plantation-owners in the Caribbean and Surinam) - contrary to what the sign said

    • @sirwolfnsuch
      @sirwolfnsuch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ (1) Slavery was fully legal within the Dutch Empire. The Netherlands decided everything that happened within this empire.
      (2) Slavery was phased out slowly, and it were the slaves, rather than the Dutch government, that paid for this transition. (Btw the US Civil War was caused by the will of the South to EXPAND slavery, in order to sway the Senate in their favor. The idea to abolish slavery only happened later on.)
      (3) Slaves never were "cheap", meaning that the rate at which they had to work to death didn't differ notably. And if economics dictated anything, it was that punishment for escape was intensified. It also meant planters engaged more in lease-contracts for slave-labour, so you never worked with the slaves that only you possessed. Slavery didn't abate until it was abolished.

    • @windvlaag4404
      @windvlaag4404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sirwolfnsuch 'Slavery was fully legal within the Dutch Empire.' That is actually wrong. In the Homeland Netherlands slavery was actually 'officially' illegal. A slave could get 'officially' his freedom when he got in the Netherlands itself. Of course this was a grey area practically. But most of the time there were very few slaves in the Netherlands itself and if they where there they acted as servants for the rich people most of the time.

    • @sjakierulez
      @sjakierulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@ People made shitloads of money with slavetrade, yet people still believe slaves were cheap/worthless. Logic much?

    • @cochisebouw9266
      @cochisebouw9266 ปีที่แล้ว

      Llĺƙ😊

  • @markdenhaan9973
    @markdenhaan9973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This part of history isn’t realy known to many people, even in the Netherlands! Love for your topics!

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "Bonjour" "Get out >:(" lmao

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm from that area of Limburg, which William I gained because he really, really wanted Maastricht. (Or more likely, the coal fields in the south.)
    And this is why the Netherlands have a funny shape. The northern border between Belgium and the Netherlands is pretty old (and pretty odd in Baarle-Hertog/Baarle-Nassau), the border with Germany is even older, but that funny bit sticking out from the bottom, wedged between Belgium and Germany, is because the Dutch troops always held on to Maastricht.
    So from 1830 to 1839 the area was predominantly Belgian, and representatives were sent to Brussels. After the Netherlands formally (and begrudgingly) accepting Belgian independence, the eastern, Dutch half of the province of Limburg became a duchy, with the Dutch King as the duke, and part of the German League. Why? To compensate the German League for the loss of part of Luxembourg to Belgium.
    After the collapse of the German League in 1866, the area finally became a province of the Netherlands again. But whereas each province has a Commissioner of the King (or Queen), the one in Limburg is unofficially referred to as the Governor. Just because this changed 157 years ago doesn't mean we should all of a sudden call this person "Commissioner of the King". And whilst every province has a "provinciehuis" (province house), the one in Limburg is called the Gouvernement.

  • @steyn1775
    @steyn1775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Belgium?
    What's that?
    I only know southern Netherlands

  • @Snoflakes_1
    @Snoflakes_1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The more I learn about recent Dutch history, the more I feel like all our monarchs did was fuck things up for the rest of us

    • @Raadpensionaris
      @Raadpensionaris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WIllem II and Wilhelmina were cool tho

  • @garderachi
    @garderachi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've learnt more about my history in this

  • @luxembourger
    @luxembourger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny is, since 1866 the Dutch still hold a part of Limburg, cultural part of the former Southern Netherlands. That country has very strange borders now.

  • @copper12heavy69
    @copper12heavy69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Bon jour"
    "Get out"
    This video/learning format would have saved my high school history grades.

  • @martonk
    @martonk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:48 that isorrowproductions reference!!

  • @colefahie9784
    @colefahie9784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Hands down” greatest thing to happen ever

  • @thegeneralissimo470
    @thegeneralissimo470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a man of Dutch heritage, I wish the UKNL still was around, but have Belgium and Luxembourg be constituent countries as well.

  • @randomgamer3964
    @randomgamer3964 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just can’t stop binge watching you

  • @scobo4743
    @scobo4743 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "France isn't allowed to have nice things" lol

  • @heirofptah
    @heirofptah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another reason for discontent was power share. Brussels and The Hague were capitals for half of the time each, and political power in parliament was split quite evenly, although the Southern Netherlands had almost twice the population of the Northern Netherlands.

  • @jamesmacdonald1116
    @jamesmacdonald1116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    why i love being British? most of our history is spiting France just, because. amazed we even became allies, but you know what they say: 'you're greatest adversary will always be your greatest friend'

    • @goobot1
      @goobot1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re allies cause Germany was dominating in ww1 and ww2

    • @alioshax7797
      @alioshax7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Believe it or not, but since 1066, we went to war with eachothers every single century (well, except the XXe century, and even there, we almost went to war in 1898 at Fachoda)

  • @fransbuijs808
    @fransbuijs808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a shame that you forgot to mention Van Speijk. 'Dan liever de lucht in" (better go up in the air then) has become legendary.

  • @nikolay4101-s7r
    @nikolay4101-s7r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm early, let me think of a reference
    "Bonjour
    Get out! "
    Gee golly, where have I seen that before.

    • @wandaperi
      @wandaperi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Normie

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dutch government: What shall we call our new kingdom?
    UK: So have you thought of a name for your country yet?
    Dutch government: I've got it! The United Kingdom....
    UK: Hey!
    Dutch government: ....of the Netherlands
    UK: oh, ok then

  • @darthsavage4025
    @darthsavage4025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been liking the new video formats! But I liked the longer, more in depth videos as well.
    Should we expect shorter videos like this from now on? Or will you still do 10min+ videos?

  • @Canada1994
    @Canada1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Four Time Great Grandfather fought in the Grande Armee at Waterloo.
    Also I loved the isorrowproductions joke.

  • @Youthure
    @Youthure 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Saying Belgium named itself Belgium after the region's name in Latin, is kind of true, but not really. The southern Netherlands had been known by that name for a while. So it wasn't like they had to invent a new name.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!

  • @potatoereach
    @potatoereach 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    anyone else miss the 10 minute episodes?

    • @NikkiMKarLen
      @NikkiMKarLen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm willing to wait for longer videos.

    • @nicky42742
      @nicky42742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually love the new format

  • @attackpatterndelta8949
    @attackpatterndelta8949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the portraits in the background.

  • @Tony.H03
    @Tony.H03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As a Dutchman: We houden van jullie, België/Nous vous aimons, Belgique.
    🇳🇱♡🇧🇪♡🇪🇺

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Zelfde terug neef

    • @poppedweasel
      @poppedweasel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just wait until there's a bloody, violent coup and Verhofstadt crowns himself King of the E.U

    • @theetherealwatcher2953
      @theetherealwatcher2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poppedweasel unlikely.

    • @poppedweasel
      @poppedweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theetherealwatcher2953 But not impossible.

  • @BC4EVER
    @BC4EVER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRING BACK 10 MINUTE HISTORY

  • @jeffsanders1609
    @jeffsanders1609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:48 “It doesn’t matter how many people vote. What matters is who counts the votes.” -Joseph Stalin

  • @TheTenthLeper
    @TheTenthLeper 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should know that at least one person in the province of Manitoba wakes up looking forward to your videos :) Keep up the good work!

  • @connorgainey8178
    @connorgainey8178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that an ISP reference I spot!

  • @amilalegion3544
    @amilalegion3544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently, when belgium was fighting For her independence, some polititians approached an old South american retired general living in France: San Martín. He said no For health reasons, but had he said yes, he would have liberated yet another country.....

  • @SyndicateProjectFan1
    @SyndicateProjectFan1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool topic!

  • @decem_sagittae
    @decem_sagittae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please bring back Ten Minute History 🤕

  • @CrimsonScar-1
    @CrimsonScar-1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've always had a soft spot for Belgium, especially after visiting Ypres.
    Respect from the UK. 🇬🇧🇧🇪

  • @ShadowSnowLeopard95
    @ShadowSnowLeopard95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The more I watch these, the more I'm amazed Europe isn't perpetually on fire to this day lol

  • @gunnargarrit6376
    @gunnargarrit6376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It'd be nice if you did a video about the Rhodesian Bush War

  • @01olracman
    @01olracman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Belgium is actually the Spanish Flanders and the original border of the Spanish Flanders still exist today in Belgium. Because belgium was a Spanish colony

  • @codysodyssey3818
    @codysodyssey3818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whenever I think about this period I always wonder how things would have turned out if William I had just been more tactful and managed to keep the United Kingdom of the Netherlands united.
    I can’t help but think that the Dutch-Belgians would have still just been a glorified speed bump between France and Germany. But colonially? How would their relationship with Britain be? Would the Belgians have pushed for a more extensive colonial empire or would they have seen that as merely being a Dutch exercise?
    I have no idea. But it’s interesting to think about.

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well king leopold 2 got the congo (yes he specificly not belgium the country)
      because
      1) he promised free trade to all great powers.
      2) king of a neutral country
      3) promised to make them all good Catholics and ending slavery (except no being a total dick instead(which cost Leopold the colony and it was given to Belgium and which also almost cost Belgium the colony because they ended the free trade)
      The united Netherlands would not get it because
      1) The dutch being an almost great power (or even a great power if they got the jewel of Africa the Congo)
      2) Very not neutral
      3) where pretty fond of their slavery and would not be believed if they promised to end it (which would upset the British) and not catholic but protestant (which would upset the french and Germans)
      IDK who would've gotten it in their place but I severely doubt the dutch would get the Congo. Any colonial gains they would have to go get themselves which they might've done but I hope this somewhat answers your question on the colonial part. As relations go though my guess is "pretty much the same"

  • @ondank
    @ondank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Belgium calls for aid"
    "AND BRITAIN SHALL ANSWER ... as a pretext to get involved in a war we totally have to get involved in anyway"

  • @Ezekiel-18
    @Ezekiel-18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only the bourgeoisie and aristocracy, both Flemish and Walloon, was speaking French; in what is today French-speaking Belgium, the vast majority of people spoke a Walloon dialect, which is a different language than French, and not mutually intelligible. Now they speak French because it was forced down upon them by the rich elite.

    • @Valandix
      @Valandix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, and stiII the centraI governement doesn't want to heIp the WaIIonereye Ianguage to survive, so

    • @capusvacans
      @capusvacans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing changes, these days the "flemish" elite wants to eradicate all flemish dialects.

  • @tibojanssen8137
    @tibojanssen8137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you say that belgians did not see them self as belgians, please say that neither did other nations as nationalism is a construction for every one and not only the belgians

  • @JamesBond-ny8bq
    @JamesBond-ny8bq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Please do one about the Franco Prussian war

    • @sjakierulez
      @sjakierulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Might wanna bring some lube for French viewers

  • @louis1443
    @louis1443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this Channel

  • @TheHadesShade
    @TheHadesShade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am surprised that when France helped Belgium fight of the Dutch that not Germany/Prussia nor the UK intervened. Especially the UK, I kinda expected that they would stop France and just let the Dutch and Belgians fight. Although I would have expected the Dutch to win.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheHadesShade
      I think the Brits were thinking long term. It would reconcile the French to the loss of their former Belgian departments if at least the French - speakers there were given power.

  • @wp12mv
    @wp12mv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The south of the Netherlands; Noord Brabant is actually a province that's pretty much entirety catholic too. As a rule in the Netherlands; anything below the rivers (rhine waal and meuse) is catholic, so the religious differences with Belgium weren't delineated by the border between Belgium and the Netherlands

  • @Knihti1
    @Knihti1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    House of Orange-Nassau, not just Orange.

    • @vathek5958
      @vathek5958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matti Taneli Hämäläinen sure, but everyone in the Netherlands just calls it the house of oranje rather than the full name so I’d say it’s fine to do the same in English.

  • @seagriffon1016
    @seagriffon1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these short history lessons. Thank you :-)

  • @rosecribs1272
    @rosecribs1272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe video about Napoleon's Duchy of Warsaw?

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 ปีที่แล้ว

      And its Russian version, kingdom of Poland under the tsar, until rebellion of 1831 ?

  • @NikkiMKarLen
    @NikkiMKarLen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for covering the Netherlands.

  • @jackezzpanzer
    @jackezzpanzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “the UK hoped that the United Netherlands were to be able to stand against the aggressors and to not let France or Prussia get too stronger”
    *approximately 92 years later*

  • @steffenberr6760
    @steffenberr6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UK: Hey France wanna hear a joke?
    France: Sure
    UK: Belgium
    France: I dont get it
    UK: Hehe and you never will