@@DA-ou7hv all these cures for problems that don’t really exist. my BMW, K 1200 LT had some type of anti-dive front end. And it had grabby electric/hydraulic computer controlled antilock brakes. it is the only motorcycle over the past four decades that I dropped twice, atwalking speed. usually, when you touch the brakes on a motorcycle, the inertia is absorbed by the front fork springs as they compress, and that energy from the springs is dissipated by the forks oil damping the rebound.. Except on that front and BMW has/had?? when I hit the brakes, that energy did not go into the forks, all I did was make the bike feel very top-heavy, and I had the handlebars turned in the parking lot, and when I tapped the grabby electric, no feel brakes, that top heaviness was amplified, and I could not hold up at 900+ pound motorcycle .. I was at a motorcycle gathering, and I saw three riders riding the same model BMW I had. I explain to them that I dropped my bike twice over the past year at walking speeds. They all started laughing and said “welcome to the club, everybody drops them.”... they all showed me their mirrors. We’re heavily scarred from tipovers at slow speed… when I was selling Yamaha’s in the early 80s part time, I remember the first time I rode a motorcycle with anti-dive. It was the new 1981 Yamaha 750 Seca.. I was taking a customer for a test ride on a road I was very familiar with. I approached a corner that I I had been around hundreds of times, and I wanted to impress the possible buyer, so I took it at a brisk pace. I had to break before the corner. It was my first time on that machine. The motorcycle did not dive on the forks. I almost lost it… I have no idea what the advantage of anti-dive could possibly be for a street bike.. Both of my Honda Pacific coast motorcycles had some type of a anti-dive fork that restricted fork oil flow I believe. I think my 1986 Yamaha venture royale also had some type of a break activated anti-dive system, restricting, fork, oil flow. I did not notice it on those machines, but I sure noticed it on my BMW and that Yamaha 750 Seca. Honda nt700 Has a nice neutral stable, slow steering feel to it for a shaft drive… it doesn’t have any bad manners as far as I can tell so far .. but I have to remind myself from now on that it has integrated brakes.. it probably won’t give me any close calls, but it is possible to get caught out in the snow. And when going down a steep hill on a street bike with street tires in the snow, which I have done on several occasions getting caught at work during unexpected snow squalls while riding my motorcycle that day, you don’t even want to think about touching the front brake on a slippery icy road going downhill. You only want to use the rear brake to maintain your crawl down a steep slippery slope. But on a machine with integrated brakes that apply front brake pressure no matter which break you use, that makes it pretty risky, because on a slippery icy surface, going downhill, you don’t want that front wheel locking.. if the machine had ABS, you wouldn’t have any breaks at all in that situation, nothing. That happened to me on my BMW K 1200 LT on a gravel downhill road. When I touched the brakes to maintain about 35 miles an hour, I had nothing, no breaks at all front or rear all the way down that hill. I was pumping the brakes, I was alternating the brakes, I was thinking of an escape. I had time to think, do I jump off? do I aim for something cheap, should I shut the key off, I was lucky there was a salvage yard at the bottom of the hill with a high fence around it made of wire that I ran into to stop. When my new front fender came in, which got broken hitting that fence, I got rid of that bike. I think ABS on a motorcycle is dangerous because that front wheel is the one that’s gonna save your life., and I found out the hard way that ABS means, all breaking stops. I’m just lucky that steep Hill did not lead onto a, four Lane busy highway or into a school zone were children were crossing at the bottom of the hill.. They keep coming up with cures for problems that don’t exist
That is good - it is for anti dive on the front end.
@@DA-ou7hv all these cures for problems that don’t really exist.
my BMW, K 1200 LT had some type of anti-dive front end. And it had grabby electric/hydraulic computer controlled antilock brakes.
it is the only motorcycle over the past four decades that I dropped twice, atwalking speed.
usually, when you touch the brakes on a motorcycle, the inertia is absorbed by the front fork springs as they compress, and that energy from the springs is dissipated by the forks oil damping the rebound..
Except on that front and BMW has/had??
when I hit the brakes, that energy did not go into the forks, all I did was make the bike feel very top-heavy, and I had the handlebars turned in the parking lot, and when I tapped the grabby electric, no feel brakes, that top heaviness was amplified, and I could not hold up at 900+ pound motorcycle ..
I was at a motorcycle gathering, and I saw three riders riding the same model BMW I had. I explain to them that I dropped my bike twice over the past year at walking speeds. They all started laughing and said “welcome to the club, everybody drops them.”...
they all showed me their mirrors. We’re heavily scarred from tipovers at slow speed…
when I was selling Yamaha’s in the early 80s part time, I remember the first time I rode a motorcycle with anti-dive. It was the new 1981 Yamaha 750 Seca.. I was taking a customer for a test ride on a road I was very familiar with. I approached a corner that I I had been around hundreds of times, and I wanted to impress the possible buyer, so I took it at a brisk pace. I had to break before the corner. It was my first time on that machine. The motorcycle did not dive on the forks. I almost lost it…
I have no idea what the advantage of anti-dive could possibly be for a street bike..
Both of my Honda Pacific coast motorcycles had some type of a anti-dive fork that restricted fork oil flow I believe. I think my 1986 Yamaha venture royale also had some type of a break activated anti-dive system, restricting, fork, oil flow. I did not notice it on those machines, but I sure noticed it on my BMW and that Yamaha 750 Seca.
Honda nt700 Has a nice neutral stable, slow steering feel to it for a shaft drive…
it doesn’t have any bad manners as far as I can tell so far .. but I have to remind myself from now on that it has integrated brakes.. it probably won’t give me any close calls, but it is possible to get caught out in the snow. And when going down a steep hill on a street bike with street tires in the snow, which I have done on several occasions getting caught at work during unexpected snow squalls while riding my motorcycle that day, you don’t even want to think about touching the front brake on a slippery icy road going downhill. You only want to use the rear brake to maintain your crawl down a steep slippery slope. But on a machine with integrated brakes that apply front brake pressure no matter which break you use, that makes it pretty risky, because on a slippery icy surface, going downhill, you don’t want that front wheel locking.. if the machine had ABS, you wouldn’t have any breaks at all in that situation, nothing. That happened to me on my BMW K 1200 LT on a gravel downhill road. When I touched the brakes to maintain about 35 miles an hour, I had nothing, no breaks at all front or rear all the way down that hill. I was pumping the brakes, I was alternating the brakes, I was thinking of an escape. I had time to think, do I jump off? do I aim for something cheap, should I shut the key off, I was lucky there was a salvage yard at the bottom of the hill with a high fence around it made of wire that I ran into to stop. When my new front fender came in, which got broken hitting that fence, I got rid of that bike. I think ABS on a motorcycle is dangerous because that front wheel is the one that’s gonna save your life., and I found out the hard way that ABS means, all breaking stops. I’m just lucky that steep Hill did not lead onto a, four Lane busy highway or into a school zone were children were crossing at the bottom of the hill..
They keep coming up with cures for problems that don’t exist