How To Use Flowpoint
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- Hopefully some will gain the knowledge we’ve picked up over the years of using Flowpoint.
It’s not the easiest of products to work with, and the finish is all about the timing.
Done correctly it will look superb and most importantly last for many many years.
All the best,
Matty Brock
I’ve had to remove 2 different songs off here due to copyright!
So they’re 2 sections where the music plays over parts where I’m talking, in the original edit you could hear what I was saying, very frustrating.
One of the points I said was to wet the house wall at the bottom, as that always withdraws the moisture from the mix first, watch it doesn’t catch you out as that’s the first area to go off.
Thanks for watching, hopefully it’s helpful!
Absolutely bang on mate,great footage.great work.i will be trying flow point
@@stanstubbs1 good luck mate and thank you 🙏
Great educational video, I'll have the confidence now to tackle my patio and paths
Thanks for watching and the kind comments 🙌🏼
Good luck
Brilliant job, definitely the answer to weedy block paving
Top Finish looks ace 👌 proper quality British workmanship. Keep it up lads 🇬🇧💪
Thank you mate, appreciate it 👍
Hands down the best video showing the best pointing product by a skilled worker that knows is trade.i watched the video then i tried it and will never go back to easy joint or Geo fix.cheers you've changed the way I point for life
Thank you so much Graham for that feedback.
I put a fair bit of work into that and being new to TH-cam/making videos, it wasn’t easy 🤣 but reading comments like that make it worthwhile .......and more!
Thank you so much for sharing this with me, it’s very encouraging!
All the best 👍👍
Matty
You’re perfect. Thank you for the valuable time spending on making such a great video.
That means a lot to me. Thank you for that 👍
Lovely job mate, best video i've seen so far, thanks for posting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Matt, superb video, best I've seen on here, thank you for taking the time to do this. Can I just ask, if using flowpoint with sandstone, is there any need to seal first and are there any sandstone colours that are more porous and could stain even if you're careful and quick cleaning off?
3 years late but I just used flowpoint on Indian sandstone circles and cobblestone today and worked a treat
Excellent video 😀
I got a weigh scale for doing 5kg batches with (850ml of water) Sawn bush-hammered Granite flagstones 600x600. Squeegeed in then washboy sponged off. Flowpoint Charcoal smooth
Good method mate 👍👍
Brilliant video! Incredible work and great content!
Thanks buddy. Took a while putting it together 😅
Appreciate you watching. Hope it was helpful in some way. 👍
Absolute game changer this stuff Matty, compared to the nasty brush in stuff…., it was a wheel reinvented moment for me 😂..
bum was twitching when I first put it down like!! Nice one for putting this video up mate, without this video I wouldn’t even have attempted using it!! 👍🏻👊🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Hello mate, that’s a boss message that mate! Nice one 🙏🙏🙏
Made up you found it useful. I wouldn’t recommend it on all paving, I have preferred methods for different materials, but I’m glad this helped you mate.
Yeah the resin is nice n easy to use, but doesn’t last more than a few years.
This stuff is in for as long as the paving is 💪
So what would ‘you’ use on Indian sandstone then 🤔😁
@@16keane I use a semi dry mix, tooled finish 👍
@@Brockstonepavingpros 👍 legend
Can you use smooth flow point on porcelain because it doesn’t list it on product guideline but it does on the coarse? Great channel by the way👍👍👍
Yes mate it’s fine.
Use the new fine one
Thanks for taking the time.
Excellent video.
Thanks for the video really helpful 👍
Great to hear
Great video. Well explained. Would feel confident in using it. Can I just ask what did you do with the wash off and residue. Have you collected it some how?
What comes off is minimal when you follow these steps, but what does come off lodges in the gutter, then scraped up
Really helpful comprehensive advice
Glad it was helpful! Thanks
I just used this slurry today for my exterior porcelain, I was too chicken to leave it longer to set in fear of staining. And keep sprinkling water on porcelain and due to cold weather it never set when hosing it down kept taking the grout off. I tried it two years ago on a sunny 32 degree day and that as soon as came out of bucket was set and ruined my tiles this time round it's the other way. My question is how you squeeze it all and wait for it to set with haze of grey on stone, that will eventually go right as I'm too scared to let it dry on my porcelain and eventually keep taking grout off I now have grouted all area but it's too shallow and I'll need to re do it. This time same process but leave it longer and only her wash once set in the gaps hopefully won't stain my tiles
Would yoy recommend this for some riven sandstone? Im worried it will stick in the rivens...
Great tutorial mate 👍🇨🇮
Nice one fella, appreciate it 🙌
💯👌 video Will defo be watching Excellent.
Top job mate👍
Thank you chief
Great vid mate just used to ur spec thnks
Great video and love some of the jobs you've done. Could you grout a a vertical joint once it's stiffened up like step risers?
Cheers Martin. Yes mate, I touch on that roughly half way through. Let it stiffen up then use it like you would do with mortar. 👍
@@Brockstonepavingpros cheers got a sandstone patio to do in a month so I'm goin to give it a go before it warms up and catches me out
@@martinknight510 perfect time of year to get to grips with it. A damp overcast day is ideal
@@Brockstonepavingpros cheers again 👍
Ultrascape do a vertical pointing grout, called CEMPOINT , need a mortar gun👍
What would you recommend for sandstone grout?
This works perfectly
Great job lads, brilliant video - very informative. I have just laid a limestone patio (600 x 900 slabs) with steps. I plan on using Flowpoint on the patio surface, what do you recommend using on the steps, particularly the vertical joints on the risers?
Cheers John. You can wait for the Flowpoint to harden a bit and trowel it in. Or depending on height, tape off and poor in.
Obviously use mortar or tile grout is an other option 👍
@@Brockstonepavingpros Thanks Matt, appreciate the advice - My first go at a patio. Had a look through the gallery on your website....seriously impressive work!
@@Brockstonepavingpros Completed the grouting yesterday, great advice in this video. Having a power washer on standby saved my patio, the sun came out and it started to go off at lightening speed! Unfortunately this morning the a hazy white rim around each slab, can this just be power washed off?
@@johnharding6639 yes mate, it’s a different ball game in the warm weather. It will set almost instantly so you have to have the bodys and the tools. I won’t even attempt it on a hot sunny day.
That sounds like efflorescence, a natural occurrence it will go but could take a while.
@@Brockstonepavingpros Thanks for the advice and info, much appreciated. 👍
would you use this method on very light limestone? would it stain the stone?
Will be fine
Just be careful in the heat
On the raj green do We prefer smooth ??
I always prefer the smooth mate yeah
Hi again matt
Just wondering which priming slurry you recommend - seems to be a few out there?? Cheers
Hello Stavy, any really mate, they all do the same job, even SBR & cement is fine
Nice one, thanks Matty
BTW Claire wilcox is not the landscaper it her better half Phil :)
Can you use this on granite mate
Yes mate, ideal for granite
Job I revisited at the end was a granite job 👍
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi
I am a subscriber
Where can I go to buy flow point from in Manchester
Regards
Try Travis they can get it
By far best video explaining how to work with this product! Gave me the confidence to use it myself, brilliant results. Cheers!
Liam, thank you mate! Hearing positive feedback like that is brilliant, thank you for sharing 👍👍
Great video guys thanks for this. I’m just about to do mine but I don’t know what colour to buy, I have Indian stone kandla grey and limestone cobbles just like you have here. What colour flowpoint did you use? This looks great
Our pleasure! It’s natural (grey) 👍🏼
Amazing tutorial mate and thank you for taking time out to make these videos! Definately need to use this on my current project! You covered
everything to give me the confidence to give it a go.
Yes Muki! You’re welcome mate.
Glad you liked it, appreciate the feedback 🙌
Hands down the best video on using Flowpoint 👏 also returning to a job 10 years later to show how it still held up Flowpoint should sponsor this video mate 😂 been using it just over a year myself and learnt something from this 👍 I will add for anyone reading this always have your whits about you when doing it as it can and will catch you out if you don’t.
That’s a lovely comment, I appreciate it very much 🙏thank you.
Yeah I agree, it can catch you out in summer, can potentially be disastrous!
Thanks so much for this video. Clear instructions, and even all the small bits of kit you need. I've used wide jointing compound in the past, but didn't really stand up to jetwashing. Having just laid a patio, I'll try this stuff
Being a window cleaner by trade, the idea of squeegie-ing a product in looks great. Thanks and all the best.
P.s, copyrighting on small bits of music that you and others use is just mad.
Cheers mate, all the best with it
Matty
Great video, I'm a DIY er. I have a 45m of slate paving to re-grout old silka fix that's coming out. Hopefully with watching this video I can try it. Thx alot
Thanks and all the best with the job 👍🏼
Matty you are a legend 👌🏼 absolutely fantastic tutorial and perfect workmanship 👍🏼
Haha 😆 thanks mate! 👍👍 I’m not but thank you. Glad you enjoyed Tom
@@Brockstonepavingpros its all in the details pal 👍
You weren't wrong when you said Perfect!!!
Appreciate that !
Top work again Matty!!!
You have inspired me to have a go at repairing the crap job on our patio I was left with.
It’s been down 5 years but was goosed after 2.
Product used was the dry brush in resin stuff.sorry don’t know the name of it.
I remember reading you saying it wasn’t the best and only lasts about a year.
Cheers Tom
How did you get on Tom? Did you use the flow point? Similar to you want to repoint my patio after it being done with the traditional method.
Absolutely a brilliant video, so thumbs up 👍 and subscribed. Did you design this job? Also, on your website the designs are fantastic. I bet you are fully booked all the time.
Thank you Frank. Really appreciate that 👍👍
I didn’t design this one no, I do design a lot but this one we took over half way through as the quality of a previous paver wasn’t up to the clients satisfaction.
Yeah usually 8-10 months at the moment 👍👍
@@Brockstonepavingpros Cheers Matty, It would be great if in the future you did a video showing your design process, before the job starts. It would add another dimension to your channel. And yes I am not at all surprised you are booked up that length of time.
Thank you for the reply.👍👍👍
That was the best description how to use flow Point. I don’t need to watch any other videos thank you sir. Kind of reminds me of doing tile work you gotta make sure you clean it appreciate it
Massive thanks, that’s great to hear 🙏
M8 any idea how or any kind of remover to get rid of marks left with it . Just done a porcelain job on grey porcelain but it hasn't come out some of it absolutely murder
Check out Lithofin, they do some haze removers 👍🏼
@Brockstonepavingpros cheers m8 got some stuff to try tomorrow I will let you know how I get on . Cheers me auld China
@@markanthony4210 Any luck? I’ve used Charcoal Flowpoint on my patio and I’ve been left with a mucky gray haze. I’ve tried Sika cleaner and I’d say it’s about 80% effective.
What a great video, you've really thought about the viewer/learner. I'm just contemplating doing my own driveway and this gives me all the information I need to give me the confidence to give it a go. Very methodical and informative. It seems you also put the same amount of effort into your paving jobs as the finished result looked great. If only all tradespeople were made this way.
Amazing to hear! Thank you for the support and encouragement
Been using resin point and no matter how i finish it be it brushed or struck.. it never lasts… gonna defo give flowpoint a go!.. a bit messy compared to the resin but better lasting.. good video 👍
Yeah 3/4 years if you’re lucky my mate.
It’s not that easy to use at first but the main thing it gives a nice finish & it lasts 👍
Nice job , top man
I am tempted to start using this product on my patios. For the last few years I have use Nexus V75 two-part epoxy resin that ios great, but it has a major issue, and that is if it gets wet during the initial curing stage after you have cleaned it off, then you can get something called Amini bloom. That happened to a 120m2 Indian stone patio I did a few years ago, luckily with the help of 60 litres of white winiger, I made the epoxy sheen go clear again, but that experience has made me nervous about using it due the constant rain, be it heavy or just light rain here in the UK, Amini bloom can even happen if it's misty overnight.
It’s good stuff, just be very careful in warm weather
An excellent detailed video. I have laid porcelain tiles and have been looking at different videos for what is best to use. This is the best video I have watched from the start with what tools to use and then through each step of the process. 😎😎
Awesome, thank you!
Best video on flowpoint matty great Tutorial and lovely workmanship
Justin brickright 👍
Thank you Justin. Tried my best to put as much into it as I could.
I’ve learnt the hard way, made a few mistakes early on but got the jist of it now. Thanks very much 🙏
Got a bit of efflorescence off mine ? When it dries out goes a bit grey in areas 😢😢
Should wear off mate, a naturally occurring pain in the arse😏
👌🏻
Thank you very much matey, brilliant video and good place, I have now the confidence to doit myself
Go for it!
Cheers, thanks for watching and the support! 👍🏼
What a great video thanks for the advise and its good to see someone who takes pride in what they do 😁👍🏼
Thanks mate. Took a while to put together, glad it helped!
Really good video. Thanks so much for taking the time to make it.
I need to re-point my patio but with a knackered back, I couldn't face the trditional, on your knees mortar pointing. So this is an excellent option I hope. One question though, is there a maximumm depth or width of gap between slabs this will work in? I've Indian Sandstone slabs and some of the gaps 30-40mm wide and up to 60mm deep. Would you be able to squeegee this straight in, or would you part fill the gap with mortar first?
You could part fill them first yes, save on material. From memory I think it’s from 2-50mm wide and any depth but just check on the spec first 👍🏼
Great video
Thnx buddy absolutely in detail explained
I have a question what should I do if I have rain drains at the end and it’s connected to manhole?
Plug them with cloth in a plastic bag or do it before the drain is connected 👍🏼
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing. I’m off to lay cobbles and flowpoint the joints now I’ve seen how to do it 👍😀
😝⚒ good luck
Great video.! Much appreciated!
How long can your store the bags please? Do they have a shelf life?
They do yes, they will have a date on them 👍
Really well explained,great video and quality work 👏👏
Thanks Mitch, I may of rambled on a bit but think I covered everything 👍😂
Absolutely fantastic video mate, will try this on the idian sandstone job im on soon once ive got the ret walls up. Dont want to use the easy joint/romex type stuff anymore, goes green so quick even if sealed.
Hi mate, thank you so much! That means a lot to me. It’s had good feedback so far, still a few dislikes 👎 though, can’t please everyone ☺️
Yes mate, all the resin based materials are no good long term. This will last 40 plus years. It’s an amazing product and reasonably priced too.
Hi Matty, great video. Thanks for taking the time to explain everything. I’ve about 95m2 porcelain wood grain R11 300x1200x20 outdoors just being laid with a 2mm joint. Do you think I’ll be ok using the smooth ? I know the data sheet says min 3mm.
No worries mate.
I wouldn’t use Flowpoint on porcelain, the finish isn’t up to it IMO
They’re bringing a finer one out soon tho, not seen it yet.
I’d use tile grout all day on porcelain
Great job and great information, well explained too , top video 👍👍👍
Great video we use this techniek in belgium standard for this type of work and also on concrete flags when we lay them with a grout line in darbour in the summer just wet your working area (floor ) extra and work in small patches instead of big patches because it can dry. To quick
Thank you mate. That’s interesting. Thank you for watching 👍👍
All the best
Wasn’t sure what to do with the paths around my house but your video has given me the confidence to gurney the hell out of the joints and fill using your instruction. Thanks for the direction from a land ‘Downunder’.
Good luck mate 👌
Awesome thank you. Would this be strong enough to keep deep and large flagstones in place? Does it come in different coloured grouts or always the same?
Don’t rely purely on this to hold it, the paving should either be bonded under each flag or be deep enough to stay in place
@@Brockstonepavingpros thank you
Deffo the way I'll be re-doing mine. That sika is absolutely crap!! It just turned black and fell apart!! Excellent video
It’s awful! Thank you
Very useful and detailed 👍 I'm just about to buy Flowpoint for my patio due to your video - one question... would you recommend sealing Indian stone slabs first, or is it not required?
Cheers. I’ve never sealed any of our jobs so I’d say no.
Hi Matty. We had a large section of cobbling done at the front of our house and the guy doing it used flowpoint. I don't think he washed it off quick enough as there is a residue left on pretty much all of the granite cobbles and they look dirty. If we use a cement remover product which was recommend, will it damage the grout itself? Any suggestions welcome as it cost us a small fortune and it stresses me out every time I look at it.
Forgot to mention it's a granite cobble. Thanks in advance
Gutted! So sorry to hear that Geena.
It’s a tricky product to use if it’s warm. Maybe that was the issue.
If it’s just a residue then you may get it off with a stone cleaner. Look up Lithofin and see what they have. If it’s thick, like a layer you may have to chip off with a hammer to remove the heavy then clean.
Possibly sandblasting is an option. Maybe call and get someone to look and do a trial area
Good luck
Matty
Cracking video. By far best example I’ve seen on how to use this product. Just hope I get as half a decent finish. Cheers
Thank you mate. I put a lot of thought into it 😅😅
Hope it’s of some help
All the best 👍👍⚒
Great video and quality work!
Hi Matt, nice job brilliant video hopefully more people will use this after this video rather than DIY resin.
Hi Andrew, thank you very much.
Yes, resin is great for DIY but Flowpoint is where it’s at 👌
Very good video. I'm thinking about putting it in on top of a brush in acrylic grout that seems to have (kind of) eroded and now needs topping up.
You’d have to rake that out first 👍🏼
Great video mate, What bed are the blocks on as I'm thinking of doing something like this her in NZ if I can get the Flowpoint here!
Sand and cement mate 👍🏼
I have grey paving slabs but the gap between them is not very wide would flow point still be OK and how do you get rid of any excess, the gap is about the size of a morter rake patio was already here so can't do a lot about it thanks
The fine grade one goes down to 2mm joints 👍🏼
So this is basically like normal tile adhesive?
if i could like this video twice i would!
This is great 🤣👌👌👌
Hi Matt
Your work is so good I bet you dont have to adverise much , a bit of a cheeky ask dddddwould you consider travelling to the Dudley area in west mids? For a patio, 2 garden walls and set f steps also 2 steep steps in garden , the garden is higher than the patio cheers
phil
Really appreciate that and the offer but way too far for us mate.
Oh I'm so disappointed 😞 I wish I lived nearer , I do have relatives cousins on the Wirrell also nice memories going on the ⛴ x the Mersey to visit relatives in New Brighton the posh auntie lived on the Wirrell
So I'm a proud scouser up the reds
Regards
Phil
As normal second to none work. Just love these videos, & the workmanship they contain. Only downside, as a Southampton supporter you reds keep stealing our players😂😂.
Phil I can only apologise on behalf of Liverpool FC 🤣 I do actually feel for you, me and my mates have discussed this in the past.
Seriously though, thank you for the kind comments and for watching our videos, I really do appreciate it.
Stay safe buddy 🤝
Matt
@@Brockstonepavingpros well it’s the thought that counts as they say🤔 on a second note, could you give me a minute to just summarise what I should look for when contracting a porcelain patio constructor I.e. what mix for bedding 4/1 or 5/1, grout gap, cutting tools (Ruby or Zoe), what grout (Easy grout or other) etc etc. Also, any national company you would recommend for buying the slabs?
Sorry to ask but I know I can’t get you down to Somerset 😂😂😂 Take care & premiership 2021/22 for the Saints
Will it stain kandla grey sandstone.
Sandstone has been sealed
Thanks for the video very informative. Brilliant stuff that plowpoint ill have to give it a go. Very impressed with how it held up 11 years on.
Thanks mate. Appreciate the feedback 🙌
When hosing off the surface surplus is it ok to simply wash it into the drain as it's so diluted. Will it still set and cause blockages or not.
Get as much off as possible, I would want to wash any sludge into the drains
Hi Matty, brilliant video, really helpful for the novice! 90% of the patio re-pointed perfectly when it wasn’t sunny, got caught out on a few slabs when the stuff set quicker and now have some mortar left on them which are Indian sandstone. Jet wash can’t remove this, do you know of a product which will dissolve the residue? Already tried Pavestone cement and grout remover and it didn’t touch it!
Thanks.
Hi Tim, sorry I’ve just seen this. Is it heavy, like a lump or just staining?
@@Brockstonepavingpros It was lumps of the stuff on the slabs. Ended up using mortar acid and a bolster chisel to get rid of it! It’s pretty hard stuff and jet wash proof.
Great video Matt what pressure is that your using please 👍🍪🏴🔥
Hi mate thanks for the info, I have just finished flowpointing my cobble patio. It looks great except that there is the odd bit here and there that could do with topping up or levelling a bit. I take it that there is no harm in going over the whole patio again with flowpoint? The flowpoint would go a long way as there wouldn't be many gaps to fill, Thanks
Hi mate, if it’s only a thin layer you’re putting on there’s a high probability it will de bond especially with frost on it. I would only do it on the low bits and maybe even score with a grinder first for a key, obviously damp down too
@@Brockstonepavingprosthanks, I think I'll just touch up the specific areas that need it, cheers mate
what colour flowpoint would you recommend for kandla grey stone please?
I’d say the natural SMOOTH like what is used in this video 👍👍
Nice work buddy. Very helpful video with great advice and tips. Never used flow point but want to try it on my own cobble driveway which needs repointing. Was pointed with sand and cement years ago but needs a freshen up so gonna give this a go soon. Cheers.
Thank you mate, glad you approve 👍
This stuff is bombproof when done right. All the best
What do you charge per m2 to point your paving with flow point
Thanks
I’ve not got a rate
I only do it on our jobs we’ve laid 👍🏼
Stumbled across this video by accident. Glad I found it though. Great work fellas! How satisfying it must be to get to the end and stand back and admire your work. Love it! Keep up the good work 👍. Cheers Matty!
Thanks for the comment
You’re welcome mate 👍👍
Great video! Would I follow the same process with Indian sandstone as it is very textured?
Yes, absolutely 👍🏼
Is it safe to use flowpoint on Sandstone? Any tips for suing it on sandstone, riven.
Thank you
Yes, absolutely. Just don’t let it set, it tends to hold in the riven parts, wire brush and or jet wash handy for that
Boss video mate. Can't wait to give it ago.
( The heavy ) our most used word on site 😂😂💪
Nice one Tom, hope it helps.
Haha you know the lingo bro 🤜🤛
Great vid using it for first time on Monday wish id started using it sooner would have saved me a sore back and knees
Thanks Matt. All the best 👍👍
Class work lads. I'm hooked on your quality work and skill/ knowledge. 👍
Ah mate, lovely compliment! Great to hear, inspires us to keep making these videos 🙏
Excellent job, no acting stupid like some people on TH-cam just how to do the job properly!👍🏻, I used easyjoint about 12 months ago & the grains of sand seem to be separating from the resin, not very impressed as it was hard work cleaning joints out & now it’s treading in the house!.🤬
Great video matt, had a couple of bum clenchers in the mid summer, we tend to knock a couple of bags up in the mixer, but it's a great product been using for a few years , also we use there primer slurry, smooth to spread and goes a long way compared to sbr👍
Different ball game in the summer isn’t it. Yes the mixer is a good shout 👌 never used it but seen others doing it that way, wouldn’t fancy it in the heat though as pain to clean.
We use primer too for the paving rather than SBR. They do a cracking bonding for vertical surfaces too
@@Brockstonepavingpros yes mate , got to have a lad on straight away water in , let it spin , clean as a nuns threepence, seen there vertical one in local merchants, going to give it ago on steps etc .
Quality products 👌
Great video matt well explained and another top job
Perfect ending 👌
Ah cheers Scott. Appreciate it matey 👍
@@Brockstonepavingpros can’t grout mine this week to bloody cold it’s either that or pissing down 🙄
@@tidybrickslandscaping tell me about, tough winter this one Scott, very frustrating
Is there a name for the type of buckets with rollers attached you were using ?
Wash boys
Another great video mate! Really informative and learn a lot. What’s best for porcelain - smooth or natural? What joint size would you recommend if I went down the flow point route with porcelain? Still would love to see a video around sub base prep. Keep up the good work😀😀
Hi mate, glad you found it some use.
I’d always always go smooth, so much better finish.
I think they say it goes from 5mm but could be wrong, you’d have to check data sheet. Personally I use grout on porcelain as you can get a perfect colour for your paving.
Thanks buddy
@@Brockstonepavingpros Thanks for the advice mate - any particular brand of grout you recommend and ones to steer clear of?