The win on the PS5 wasn’t the GPU, it was pushing the entire industry to virtually eliminate load times with their SSD, which is still sadly under-utilized probably because it’s just better to target the average SSD read and decompression / transfer to GPU speed in the average gaming PC which also covers the Xbox ecosystem than to develop two versions of a cross platform game just to get a few more seconds out of the PS5 SSD. We still have never seen, outside of maybe Ratchet and Clank, Cerny’s idea of camera movements loading 4-6 gigabytes of texture data on a 180 degree camera turn.
@@neocitron yes I wondered what ever happened to that potential. But I think it would require a lot of consideration by devs during the actual game design process. I mainly play Destiny 2 and that game, by design, has long corridors and caves that separate larger map sections which they use to “hide the loading” so even though the speeds are fast enough not to need the tunnels they were there by design originally and probably hard to remove.
How anyone could cry about the price on current consoles blows my mind. There is gpus releasing upwards of 1,500 to 2,000 dollars for one piece of hardware. I have played every big release last year at higher graphic fidelity as alot of my PC buddies. Dollar for dollar it's a deal compared to your other options.
It's because most pc bros are a joke.....it's never ppl who buy high end gpus saying that, it's the pc peasant, and 1k build pc players who think/ thought it be better than a console and want to gloat about it...I built my 2k pc and bought the ps5 pro and i loke them both for different things. The pro us the way better deal price for power..and playstion just gets games first...I'm a gamer, I'm not waiting 1 or 2 years for gta 6 or final fantasy 7 remakes..or the horizon god of war games. 700 bucks is NOTHINGA AND when the ps6 comes out I'll trade in my pro for ps6.
The only reason they do is because "consoles are cheaper alternatives to PC" and haven't typically gone over a '$499' USD besides PS3. They just omit inflation happened/is still happening and just because they aren't getting paid that they should for their job it feels "expensive" when console prices rise. This is a salary problem not really a "consoles are too expensive now" problem.
GTA 6 is just at the Holiday of this year of 2025 so no worries, Now PlayStation 6 is coming Holiday of 2026 at least or maybe even problably holiday 2027.
GTA6 would be censored/sanitised to a point you won't recognise it's GTA and a Rockstar's game. Rockstar creators and many veterans have left the company. So nothing to by hyped about. Though seeing how bad PS5 and Sony is now, with no games (only cancelled live services) and ESG games - PS6 is not exciting either. It's not GTA4/5 and PS3/4
@ Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, Resident Evil 4 Remake is Marvellous, 2019 DEVIL MAY CRY 5 is Marvellous, so all this Bullshits from your HEAD, i really never played Red Dead Redemption 2 BUT Everybody on Earth Keeps saying is absolutely fantastic.
ML can be used in the engine pipeline instead on the final rendered image. This will provide far more than 4x acceleration in DLSS4. But then the limiting factor will change to the data transmission rate to the display. To take these advantages, the just announced HDMI 2.2 is essential.
I am honestly not a big fan of such "leaks"....we have seen those leaks with the PS5 Pro, which have been mostly wrong? We all remember the 33TF GPU based on RDNA 3.x?
The 33tf leak was correct though, just lacking context. It didn't include the 33tf came from FP64 which double counts the floating points. So it's correct, just not with the full context so people ran away with themselves.
@@webhead4414 No it wasn't correct, Cerny himself even stated as such. PS5 Pro is, in his words, RDNA 2.X, so not RDNA 3 or RDNA4. Watch his lastest talk about it, the Pro is simply about 65% faster in rastrization than the PS5 Amatuer, it has some nice RT features, but it is still a very RNDA2 customized SoC.
@@webhead4414 It’s correct, just missing context… My guy, 1) There’s a massive difference in 16.5 and 33 teraflops… no amount of context changes that 2) Cerny himself took to TH-cam to specifically debunked the 33tf claim and call it ridiculous
All Style, No Substance. PS6 can have whatever hardware you can imagine, but what's the point if there are no Games. PS5 has no Games, PS6 will have no Games. Guess whoever's left on the PlayStation Bandwagon better start fighting for Xbox's Scraps and 3rd Party Ports. PS5 was a Breaking Point for me. I had to jump ship before the whole thing sinks.
This year we got Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth was an exclusive, Astrobot and many more amazing exclusives you can't get anywhere. If you are in the console war there were dozens of exclusives. There have been more exclusives for the PS5 than the PS4 had at this time in the generation.
@@jiggerypokery2962 Stellar blade will soon come to PC guaranteed, so will FF7 eventually...so you are only left with Astrobot. Does that sound like a good investment to you considering the cost of the device? 1 Exclusive? Really?
Same here, after 30 years being only playing games on PlayStation. I started investing in a high end PC last summer, now just waiting for my GPU at the end of the month and I’m set. Never thought I would leave PlayStation, but their locked ecosystem is a turn off. When I pay for a game I want to do whatever I want with it. (And also don’t desperately hope for a “pro” patch to utilize the improved hardware) Also there are still a lot of games that aren’t available on PS4-PS5 that I wanna replay. So PC is gonna be my main platform. Ofcourse still gonna keep my PS5pro for GTA and exclusives. But everything else it’s PC
I think oled, hdr and 10-bit colors really make a huge difference in image quality. But for me the 120 fps mode is more like a gimmick: Even on the 4090 I often get only 60-70 fps.
more important than power & grafix would be the possibility to allow full game modding.., or PS will continue to shrink (and it's self inflicted, by bringing 1st party to PC) .... Steamdeck allows full modding, a possible desktop or /and Steamdeck 2 will allow full modding too) => PC handhelds & cheapee gaming PCs will be PS's & Xbox's end..., UNLESS they find way to allow full modding.. ... today's youth is way more tech savy and crave modding for their favourite games..
@@webhead4414 Actually it is you that have no idea. It was about 3 years from the PS5 initial release until they were readily available for everyone, it was at least 2 years for me until I saw one on a retail shelf where I live. Don't you remember the global chip shortages that impacted production, Sony has even stated this themselves.
That's with every generation. More than 7 years between consoles is ludicrous. Do you want to have to buy a second ps5 before the Ps6 comes out? I know I don't. My Ps5 sounded like a Harrier jump jet by the time the Ps5 came around, and I even alternated between Xbox One, Ps4, and PC.
@@danmac6185 7 years is fine....this gen will be 8, the fact is, there is zero reas9n to update a console or gpu/ cpu in 5 or less years....Unless something happensninnthe gameing space that you didn't account for( ps4 era was hdr and 4k that's why they made pros) This gen it's dlss/pssr ( that's why they made the ps5 pro) That's why most ppl hung on to the 1070 series of cards for so long..... untill u needed dlss for games Anyone who changes there gpu or cpu every 2 or 3 years is not doingnit for gameing they doing it cuz there an pc enthusiast....they just like tech, the games are jist reasons for them to do it.... But this late in the game we have 120 fps and 4k there is not much places to go.... only ray tracing and if you don't care about that then ps5 and 3060 seires will do you fine for a long time..( maybe not on current pc games, pc games are so unoptimized sometimes you need extra power to just brute forece it)
But tech moves on no matter shortages or pandemics. It is what it is, for the companies it isn't premature only for people that couldn't get a PS5 when they wanted.
Pkaystation 5 came 2020... that is 5 years ago. Typicall iteration is 6 years. Granted woth the pro.. pushing it to 7-8 years is resonable. To me the only reason the do sort of the half gen is to get two way compability. Granted. Sega did that with the x32 system alreddy in the 90s
@@t_dappanext gen consoles are usually 6 times stronger than their predecessors bare minimum. It’s definitely going to be in the same ballpark as a 5090 especially in 2027
@@denisn8336 you’re deluded if you think within 2 years a 2000 dollar gpu ON ITS OWN will be in a 5-600 dollar console. What you fail to realise is that the price of tech is no longer falling at the same rate it was in the mid 2010s so you in this economic climate I’m expecting a 5070ti to 5080 level raw compute. Though you can expect more powerful AI solutions which will increase the effective performance of the console.
They aren't details, its just pure speculation anyone could cook up. q3 2027, 2n, 3d v-cache zen 6 10 cores, udna chiplet, 5090 performance blah blah. See I'm a leaker too.
Umm, you worded that statement in a way to convey a fallacy in what's happening. There are multiple losses in the area of AAA gaming, and not just by Sony. They're also cancelling some online games. However most projects are going forward, and new projects are starting or already started and what Sony wants to see is more AI incorporated into games, and this means the logic of the games, not AI upscaling. So, this means getting rid of people that don't have this kind of experience and getting together with people that have already started developing using AI. Got it? There's going to be a PS6 and there will be plenty of games for it.
@@johndoh5182 Sony defense force over here lmao Doesn’t matter how you spent it… Sony has spent the last several years waisting resources on games that no one asked for and canceled them anyways Those same resources could have been dedicated to numerous AAA games people wanted OR remakes of games from PS1/PS2/PS3 that people actually miss Putting BluePoint on support followed by live service slop is a FALLACY
Ur cooked... this gen has been tge best gen HANDS DOWN for console Name me ONE GEN thay got better games than Horizon fw Gow rag Returnal Elden ring Black myth Dragons dogma 2 Ratchet and clank rift Demon souls remake REsident evil 8/ free vr game Re4 remake Forspoken Final fantasy 16 Final fantasy 7 rebirth Gt 7/free vr No man's sky free vr add on Dynasty warriors origins The CoD games Ncaa football 2025( back after 15 years) Expedition 33 Gta 6 Wolverine Space marine Astros bot Hell divers 2 Allen wake 2 Stellar blade Armored core 6 Baldets gate 2 This is just the 3rd party and playstion AAA games.....in the first 5 years If you think that's a bad line up or " the worst" then ur cooked and just and idiot, I DARE you to go find a gen where we had that many good games in 5 years.... AND ITS JUST THE GAMES I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD... Ur a cooked moron or just a pc idiot who is mad games ain't day and date on pc.... stop being an idiot and buy a playstion so you can buy games
We looking at something around the grand daddy of the strix halo on steroids.... Btw 10x to 15x the base ps5 performance with 80 tops and 3dV cache 32gb u ified memory 2tb SSD UDNA
Much more interested in NS2 than PS6 for now… PS6 is years away and the PS5 1st party lineup is thin with several studios still 4-6 years away from releasing games
NS2 will be more of the same. I couldn't be less excited. Nintendo went about as safe as they could without calling it the Switch Pro, because that's exactly what it looks like. That new MK tease looks identical to MK8.
@@webhead4414 PS5 and Series X are literal carbon copies of the PS4 and One generation bud lmao And you’re right, I was definitely expecting MK9 to be a racing sim with photo realistic graphics
There is no chance to be on 2nm. 2nm is not even in production stage, it is still in risk production, which means they have issues with filling the wafer with at least 95%. AMD and Nvidia cannot get test wafers until q2,3 of 2026. Even when it comes, it will be very expensive. They announced their next GPU's and CPU's few days ago to be on 3NP.
I’ll be honest. If it’s not AT LEAST twice as good as the PS5 pro performance for less than £700 this time not many will go for it. Same with new Xbox. We don’t want AI lag either. In any way shape or form.
I'll probably buy one because I've always bought every generation of Playstation ever since I was a 10 year old kid saving up for a PS1 in the 1990s. However, I'm aiming to buy a RTX 5080 at the end of the month, I doubt the PS6's GPU will be more powerful than that graphics card so I'm not really excited for the PS6 from a hardware perspective, but as long as the games are good I'll be fine.
lol, rtx5080 is doa , its barely faster than rtx4080 , 10% at most . and you cant compare pc gpu with console gpus , pc gpus perform worse , windows overhead issues , ps6 gpu is being designed for 2027 release it will be more powerful than 5080 forsure.
@@parm2-x7hlol, the 5080 is as fast as the 4090 if not faster, the ps6 will be no where near the perf of the 5080, may not even beat the 4080, maybe 4070 ti at best.
@@parm2-x7h And yet in the real world the PS5 Pro, touted as an RTX 4070 Super gets slapped by an RTX 3080... The PS5 Pro 2024, RTX 3080 released in 2021 🤣 PS6 will be at that 4070 super level, only it won't be lie this time.
How many TFLOPS we expecting for raw raster performance? 16.7 TFLOPS on the PS5 Pro. PS4 Pro was 4.19 TFLOPS. So a 4x jump between pros. The vanilla PS5 was 10.28 TFLOPS vs 1.84 FTLOPS on the PS4. So around 5 x jump. Can we expect a 4-5 x raster performance increase by 2027? That would be pushing something around 68-80 TFLOPS. AMD's current champ is the 7990 XTX with 88 TFLOPS. That's been around for a while now. Is it unrealistic to expect THAT level of grunt in a console for 2027?
@@beerendrachaudhary3872 Can you elaborate, sorry? I was just talking about the number of TFLOPS for raster performance, I wasn't talking about how it works.
@@beerendrachaudhary3872 Oh gosh no, I wouldn't expect linear improvement in FPS. Got to factor in the fact that the game engines will be more complex, the graphical fidelity will be higher etc. I'll be happy if it does TRUE 4K 60fps with high quality anti-aliasing and detailed shadows etc... I guess we also need to expect AI based upscaling and possibly frame generation? But I still base my comparisons on raw performance without the tricks. And I also guess we need to account for ray-tracing capabilities which isn't part of the raster performance TFLOPS.
2027 is too early. I can only guess they've pushed it up a year because of new Xbox jumping ahead to 2026 smh. If the PS6 uses UDNA 1 and not UDNA 2, then I'd wager there will very likely be a need for a PS6 Pro because they couldnt wait long enough.
If the jump is too big i think they are releasing both PS6 and PS6pro. Maybe the pro will have the full chip at very high clock and the base model use the same chip but very cut down n downclocked to ensure they don't waste silicon. Its just a guess, and im not if that way the PS6pro would have 50% more performance than the base model
There is no way a console in 2027 would use hbm memory. I believe that maybe the rtx 7090 will. It simply costs a fortune At that point in time you would be able to do 4K 120FPS with gddr speeds at mid range costs. The only reason you would want HBM would be 8K which doesn’t sound feasible anyway.
even if they wait 3 years from now and get zen6 cpu ... they wont be able to push the graphics far enough ... they would need to build a system with a 9070xt successor like a 10070xt with a really good fsr4 iteration ... they would need a framegen and upscaling monster that they can push far beyond what the ps5pro can do ... otherwise why would anyone upgrade ... obviusly a zen 6 cpu might get them finally into high refreshrate gaming ... but lets wait and see
It will be a monster and I hope it will deliver visual fidelity on par with a 4080/9800x3d rig for a good price tag. It will probably be $1200 but if it can deliver like a $3k PC people will buy it.
Already the ps5 pro stacks up to a 3070/6800, so hell no ps6 power and Performance will be equivalent to a 3090ti and ray tracing equivalent to 4060ti/4070 this time now, only big jump will be the cpu, the gpu will be Minimum Because really the problem is the CPU zen 2 trash
@ZackSNetwork 🧢 the ps5 pro is 3070/6800 they did test already that's what it's equivalent to plus digital foundry already shut down that 4070 nonsense when they had to use a special Software to down lock the 4070 to the lowest of low settings to try and match the ps5 pro and the 4070 still Outperform it
Honestly I think we can push a LOT more good games on this generation and not worry about next gen hardware. Games are suposed to be fun and not about 120fps while raytracing. Sony should have taken better care of their gaming studios instead of shelling millions of dollars on games THAT NOBODY WANTED TO PLAY. Its like they have no idea what they are doing. I am surprised how so many bad companies manage to generate so much money. Take a look at Steam winning over all the handheld market while Sony was the one who decided Eh, we don't need a new handheld. Its not like we are a gaming company. They literally don't care.
My biggest worry is whether 1st gen UDNA will be perfect on the first try and a big enough jump for it to feel like a truly next generation, just look at Nvidia's 5000 series it only increases performance by 10-30% increase over the 4000 series equivalent!! Sure Sony can use 2nm, joint X3D+3D V-Cache, PSSR, NPU, etc, etc but I just hope it's not rushed too early.
@@miyagiryota9238 But that really isn't much is it, that like playing a game a little under 1080p to maybe getting to 4K. That will just look a little sharper, maybe you can turn on a few extra things to make it look a little nicer, maybe a few more NPCs or denser vegetation but we need a proper next generation feel. Most of the time I don't know if I'm playing a PS5 game or a good PS4 game! I kind of blame the XSS for that but maybe that is too hard on MS, maybe it's just not big leaps anymore.
@miyagiryota9238 it ain't close to the rx 7800xt. But let's get over that . For next gen performance ,sony needs to give more than 300 watt total system power. The ps6 should at least come at 450 watt. Let's be honest here . The ps5 pro is power starved. The igpu could clock higher if liquid metal was still applied. Tho it won't change the main problem. The cpu when you get a cpu clock boost ,you need to give up a bit of gpu power
I want a PS that can deliver like a PC. Ever since I got my high end PC I can't look at PS5 games anymore with the exception of a few exclusive which are obviously showcasing what can be done if a game is specifically developed for one console. My PC deliver such insane visuals that playing even in quality mode makes games look blurry. I fucking hate it now. I didn't see it before but now I do. Like Plaque Tale Requiem looks horrible on the PS5 dude. Even if you turn down all settings on the PC it still looks sharper and runs at higher frames than the PS5 version. I want the PS6 to be on par with PC gaming. And I'll happily spend up to $1200 for it. I've been a console fan from the beginning and while I enjoy PC building and gaming, I'm a console gamer at heart. But I do want that high fidelity for console games. I think it's about time we get that.
The rumors in the past have been RDNA 4+, so you could see an RDN4.5 or UDNA And I'd just assume that Sony knows what they're doing since they launch good products. They're not going to use the next "best" thing without a lot of testing and it would be just as easy to use 4.5 or UDNA because either would be upgrades to RDNA 4. And AMD WILL produce RDNA 4.5 because they are dedicated to the laptop market now, and you need new generations of products each year for laptops.
*PS6 is going to stomp the current gen and it will be beautiful. Not having to depend on FSR/PSSR to achieve a framerate above 60 fps at 4K in Beautiful graphics settings is most preferred. It will reduce latency substantially.*
Next generation consoles being stronger than last generation is nothing knew. Also most games will still not be native 4K and at 60fps. You clowns never learn. The big leap next generation will be the CPU performance, AI upscaling and Raytracing.
@Twitch_Moderator just like what a 500 watt mid tier pc of 2027/ 2028 will do ? 🤣NOPE. If sony doesn't design a console that can be allowed to draw more than 300 watt ((( total system power ))) The ps6 will lag behind for it's time .
Is it a possibility that sony will use a high end GPU instead of low/mid range?! Or cost and power requirements will keep them away from highest end?! Wouldn’t Zen 6 be a bottleneck by 2027/28?
Meh consoles have lacked in the tech area for awhile now. I used to be more enthusiastic about new consoles but since I've been on pc I've noticed consoles are just playing the catch up game. Shouldn't be no surprise it'll have amds stacked v-cache. Ps3 has more interesting tech mainly because of a processor that was built from the ground up, nowadays its just amd stuff which is understandable since its cost efficient.
2027 launch with hardly any PS5 first games and so far plagued by remasers and cross gen. No way! PS6 is prob delayed till 2028-2029 for TSMC N2 and AMD UDNA 2 and Zen 6-7. Should allow Cerny some time to make a truly transformative console, not just a half baked one. The AI tech NVIDIA previewed at CES (neural shaders etc...) should be a lot mature and viable 5 years from now.
@@sobversion3 it'll have to be. Sony can't rely on resolution and stronger GPU this time. Gotta push hard for everything else. Cerny even called rasterized rendering a dead end. Just don't see Sony selling a console using TSMC's N2 below $699. That node will be expensive AF even in 2028-2029. Perhaps if it's diskless $599 is doable, but $699 still seems more likely. It's also possible they keep everything except GPU and CPU on N6 and stack the N2 chip with GPU and CPU on top. Would be an easy way to save on cost. we'll see.
Keep in mind the engineering team isn't responsible for the development software team of making games at Sony. The technology will keep advancing and these plans has been planned for years to execute and it's entirely different from making games.
@ agreed. Just no point in making a new console only 1-2 years after the mess we're in rn is over. PS5 Pro took extremely long to release compared to PS4 Pro, and I just can't see the PS6 being released in 2027. Makes ZERO sense. Going to be delayed. 2028-2029 is more likely.
I remember these same titles for the PS5 and it turned out to be one of the most disappointing gens with it barely being able to run modern games properly coupled with the fact that these devs aren't really pushing boundaries anymore. No passion anymore pure business has ruined gaming and 4 years in and we're still waiting for "nex gen" all these games coming out could easily run on PS4.
I've had a PS5 since day one, and the PS5 Pro is of zero interest to me. I do hope the PS6 will have a much bigger jump in performance, given how good the PS5 was day one compared to what was before it. I'll just sign up on mailing lists here and there as I did before the PS5 was released, to get notified once it's possible to order, because I managed to avoid all the scalping drama and all of that last time. People who whine the next time as well if they cannot get their hands on one, never tried in the first place. Personally I showed my interest 12 minutes after I got an email, so that made me able to grab one of the first one's. Obviously no guarantees in life, but if you do not try you will definitely not get anything.
why do people keep speculating stacked dies for the consoles? reminder the consoles cut the cache size of Zen2 in half. maybe they should stop lobotomizing the base specification, then we can entertain the idea that they will pay the added cost and complexity of a 3D stacked L3 cache.
Actually God knows what's happening with 1st party software with Sony? Why bother launching a next gen console if you keep canceling every game far into their development cycle.
If sony wants performance, they will have to bite the bullet and offer more than 300 watt total system 💀. The next gen consoles should be around 450 watts . The consoles are powestarved
Yep, seems that way if rumors are true. My PS5 has been very quiet lately, and now Sony is up to 10 canceled games I think? Shame all those resources, couldn't have been used for more 1st party games that made the Playstation as popular as it is.
A new playstation 6 after 12 game cancel , you Sony fans are crazy if you rhink that Sony can survive another generation like this one . For the next 10 to 20 years there are going to be only 2 mayor companies making video games Xbox because they have all the games olus money amd Nintendo because they are the king. Nintendo have so many first party that they can survive selling those games .
@@lowrider2756 It's the combination of the two basically on overall leap especially in playstation console standard's with the very best optimization (especially compared with or against the pc ports) and you have the real deal.
This console stuff is rediculous! We need good games not hardware. There’s nothing to even showcase the current consoles. All the lazy development is holding the current consoles back not the hardware
Stop it the 5070ti will be better than the ps6, the 6070ti will be what most people buy in 2027/2028. PC gaming has won now over to the peripheral wars.
Console gaming won years ago buddy. PC is the least relevant part of the market. I'm not joking, it goes Mobile, then Console, then way down at the bottom is PC. Y'all simply do not buy games 😅
@ pc will win in the end. Console market not growing, why can’t minimum 5 million people buy PlayStation exclusives? The same people are buying games and 1 to 2 million people is not enough. Black myth and helldivers sold over 8 million on PC
Talking about PS6 when the PS5 generation has been complete trash with remakes/remasters. Hardware isn’t going to change the fact Sony first party is failing massively and buying exclusives does nothing for Sony image.
Everytime a new console is ''leaked'' I hear ''IT'S A MONSTER!!!!'', then it comes out and it is trash. I am looking at you ps5, 30fps on most games lol
@davidvillamarin-lj2pf I do! It is either 60 FPS(ish, it fluctuates a lot )and PS3 graphics or 30 FPS (stable) and decent graphics (not good, just decent)
When I play games with my 4090 I often get only 60-70 fps on max settings. If a game is well optimized, the graphic fidelity difference is not huge, to be honest. In short: I prefer the ps5 pro over the pc, because the pc is crashing, stutting and makes a lot of noise (and costs over 6 times more than the ps5 pro).
now i don't know f all about how pc's work not really. lightning gets fired through rocks with tiny transistors printed on them and that make pretty picture on my screen great. that being said. i don't like AI frame gen. i wish they could find a way to use AI to speed up the actual frames not insert fake ones. i want lower latency with my extra frames otherwise i don't see the point in having them. From what i understand its because of CPU bottlenecks. there's got to be a better way to solve the problem. i think the power is being used wrong. now i know I'm going to get a bunch of people much smarter than me tell me why what i think is dumb and that's ok. but I'm just not excited about the tech. if the ai offloaded some other compute so that the games could actually run faster i think that would be better is all.
GDDR isn't low end. The difference is stack, and people often forget this. So, the data transfer is very close between the two standards. GDDR7 currently will reach 1.2 TB/sec. GDDR7x will hit 1.5 TB/s. Plus, affordability is a factor. HBM is expensive. GDDR is cheaper by a long shot.
😂😂😂why would u believe tat the ps6 will have Zen 6 AMD X3D cpu when the current ps5 Pro cpu is on Zen 2 n the time the Sony fanboy was saying the ps5 Pro had 32 Teraflop and beating a 4090😂😂😂
Sort of.. ps4 cam in 2013, pro in 2016, ps5 in 2020, pro 2024. But the ps 4 pro was later in the year and ps5 pro earlier. So that is bassically. Not quite a 3.5 year iteration. Brining the ps6 to december of 2027... while i guess march of 2028 is possible also Worth to remeber that the ps3 had 3 main versions as well. The normal, the slim and the super slim. The ps2 kind of also had a super slim but it wad never marketed diffently.
@@matsv201 PS4 Pro and PS5 Pro both came out in November. Every Sony home console in the last 20 years has come out in November. PS6 is most likely coming out in November 2028.
How will they cool such a system and keep it in the correct power watt budget. Nobody wants a 3 m console 😂 but it won't matter as with console and game prices skyrocketing, agendas and lack of creativity and originality...it won't matter. Only a select few will be able to game as the rest and countries with weak currency watch gameplay on youtube.
TLOU Part 2 Remake Part 2 is going to be wild
Noooo, not another upscaled Abby
The win on the PS5 wasn’t the GPU, it was pushing the entire industry to virtually eliminate load times with their SSD, which is still sadly under-utilized probably because it’s just better to target the average SSD read and decompression / transfer to GPU speed in the average gaming PC which also covers the Xbox ecosystem than to develop two versions of a cross platform game just to get a few more seconds out of the PS5 SSD.
We still have never seen, outside of maybe Ratchet and Clank, Cerny’s idea of camera movements loading 4-6 gigabytes of texture data on a 180 degree camera turn.
@@neocitron yes I wondered what ever happened to that potential. But I think it would require a lot of consideration by devs during the actual game design process. I mainly play Destiny 2 and that game, by design, has long corridors and caves that separate larger map sections which they use to “hide the loading” so even though the speeds are fast enough not to need the tunnels they were there by design originally and probably hard to remove.
Load times were never eliminated, they were just hidden thru cut scenes
How anyone could cry about the price on current consoles blows my mind. There is gpus releasing upwards of 1,500 to 2,000 dollars for one piece of hardware. I have played every big release last year at higher graphic fidelity as alot of my PC buddies. Dollar for dollar it's a deal compared to your other options.
It's because most pc bros are a joke.....it's never ppl who buy high end gpus saying that, it's the pc peasant, and 1k build pc players who think/ thought it be better than a console and want to gloat about it...I built my 2k pc and bought the ps5 pro and i loke them both for different things.
The pro us the way better deal price for power..and playstion just gets games first...I'm a gamer, I'm not waiting 1 or 2 years for gta 6 or final fantasy 7 remakes..or the horizon god of war games. 700 bucks is NOTHINGA AND when the ps6 comes out I'll trade in my pro for ps6.
The only reason they do is because "consoles are cheaper alternatives to PC" and haven't typically gone over a '$499' USD besides PS3. They just omit inflation happened/is still happening and just because they aren't getting paid that they should for their job it feels "expensive" when console prices rise. This is a salary problem not really a "consoles are too expensive now" problem.
Great insight, this is my to go channel for this type of content.
What, specs of nonexistent game consoles pulled out of imaginary @$$es?
@@DontKnowDontCare6.9 his alt account likes his content.
PS6 before GTA VI 😢
GTA 6 is just at the Holiday of this year of 2025 so no worries, Now PlayStation 6 is coming Holiday of 2026 at least or maybe even problably holiday 2027.
there will be a GTA6 re-milked.
good, it will run terribly on current consoles.
GTA6 would be censored/sanitised to a point you won't recognise it's GTA and a Rockstar's game. Rockstar creators and many veterans have left the company. So nothing to by hyped about.
Though seeing how bad PS5 and Sony is now, with no games (only cancelled live services) and ESG games - PS6 is not exciting either.
It's not GTA4/5 and PS3/4
@ Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, Resident Evil 4 Remake is Marvellous, 2019 DEVIL MAY CRY 5 is Marvellous, so all this Bullshits from your HEAD, i really never played Red Dead Redemption 2 BUT Everybody on Earth Keeps saying is absolutely fantastic.
Thanks Paul... always always the best info in computer & console spec!!
For those who are reading, hope you have a good day 🙂
I hope dogs will get some food on the street too
ML can be used in the engine pipeline instead on the final rendered image. This will provide far more than 4x acceleration in DLSS4. But then the limiting factor will change to the data transmission rate to the display. To take these advantages, the just announced HDMI 2.2 is essential.
I am honestly not a big fan of such "leaks"....we have seen those leaks with the PS5 Pro, which have been mostly wrong? We all remember the 33TF GPU based on RDNA 3.x?
The 33tf leak was correct though, just lacking context. It didn't include the 33tf came from FP64 which double counts the floating points. So it's correct, just not with the full context so people ran away with themselves.
@@webhead4414 No it wasn't correct, Cerny himself even stated as such. PS5 Pro is, in his words, RDNA 2.X, so not RDNA 3 or RDNA4. Watch his lastest talk about it, the Pro is simply about 65% faster in rastrization than the PS5 Amatuer, it has some nice RT features, but it is still a very RNDA2 customized SoC.
@@webhead4414
It’s correct, just missing context…
My guy,
1) There’s a massive difference in 16.5 and 33 teraflops… no amount of context changes that
2) Cerny himself took to TH-cam to specifically debunked the 33tf claim and call it ridiculous
@@webhead4414😂😂😂there was never no 32 teraflop all hype made by Sony fanboy
This channel is full of speculative leaks that are way off the mark. Remember rdna 3 was supposed to be an Nvidia killer 😅
All Style, No Substance.
PS6 can have whatever hardware you can imagine, but what's the point if there are no Games.
PS5 has no Games, PS6 will have no Games.
Guess whoever's left on the PlayStation Bandwagon better start fighting for Xbox's Scraps and 3rd Party Ports.
PS5 was a Breaking Point for me. I had to jump ship before the whole thing sinks.
Sony is the third console manufacturer rival of Nintendo since Sega that released games for Nintendo.
This year we got Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth was an exclusive, Astrobot and many more amazing exclusives you can't get anywhere. If you are in the console war there were dozens of exclusives. There have been more exclusives for the PS5 than the PS4 had at this time in the generation.
@@jiggerypokery2962 Stellar blade will soon come to PC guaranteed, so will FF7 eventually...so you are only left with Astrobot.
Does that sound like a good investment to you considering the cost of the device? 1 Exclusive? Really?
@ When a game comes out that is better than anything I have in my backlog I find value in playing it immediatly.
Same here, after 30 years being only playing games on PlayStation. I started investing in a high end PC last summer, now just waiting for my GPU at the end of the month and I’m set. Never thought I would leave PlayStation, but their locked ecosystem is a turn off. When I pay for a game I want to do whatever I want with it. (And also don’t desperately hope for a “pro” patch to utilize the improved hardware) Also there are still a lot of games that aren’t available on PS4-PS5 that I wanna replay. So PC is gonna be my main platform. Ofcourse still gonna keep my PS5pro for GTA and exclusives. But everything else it’s PC
Ps5 pro 120 htz on OLED is amazing i can only imagine ps6
Most of the amazing comes from the oled itself tbh .
I have both, and it's not that great. Can't wait for new GPUs to finally build a proper PC.
I think oled, hdr and 10-bit colors really make a huge difference in image quality. But for me the 120 fps mode is more like a gimmick: Even on the 4090 I often get only 60-70 fps.
@lowrider2756 It's not a gimmick when you're playing competitive games like cod, sim racing, etc online multiplayer
more important than power & grafix would be the possibility to allow full game modding.., or PS will continue to shrink (and it's self inflicted, by bringing 1st party to PC)
....
Steamdeck allows full modding, a possible desktop or /and Steamdeck 2 will allow full modding too) => PC handhelds & cheapee gaming PCs will be PS's & Xbox's end..., UNLESS they find way to allow full modding..
... today's youth is way more tech savy and crave modding for their favourite games..
If it didn't take many people 3 years to get a ps5 then the ps6 wouldn't feel so premature.
You have no idea what you're on about.
@@webhead4414 Actually it is you that have no idea. It was about 3 years from the PS5 initial release until they were readily available for everyone, it was at least 2 years for me until I saw one on a retail shelf where I live.
Don't you remember the global chip shortages that impacted production, Sony has even stated this themselves.
That's with every generation. More than 7 years between consoles is ludicrous. Do you want to have to buy a second ps5 before the Ps6 comes out? I know I don't. My Ps5 sounded like a Harrier jump jet by the time the Ps5 came around, and I even alternated between Xbox One, Ps4, and PC.
@@danmac6185 7 years is fine....this gen will be 8, the fact is, there is zero reas9n to update a console or gpu/ cpu in 5 or less years....Unless something happensninnthe gameing space that you didn't account for( ps4 era was hdr and 4k that's why they made pros)
This gen it's dlss/pssr ( that's why they made the ps5 pro)
That's why most ppl hung on to the 1070 series of cards for so long..... untill u needed dlss for games
Anyone who changes there gpu or cpu every 2 or 3 years is not doingnit for gameing they doing it cuz there an pc enthusiast....they just like tech, the games are jist reasons for them to do it....
But this late in the game we have 120 fps and 4k there is not much places to go.... only ray tracing and if you don't care about that then ps5 and 3060 seires will do you fine for a long time..( maybe not on current pc games, pc games are so unoptimized sometimes you need extra power to just brute forece it)
But tech moves on no matter shortages or pandemics. It is what it is, for the companies it isn't premature only for people that couldn't get a PS5 when they wanted.
Will there be options for discs drives for ps6 and series x2 for the 10th gen
If there is no physical media I'm out of console gameing and prob gameing all together
I think I may hold out for a PS6 Pro if it's already out by 2027
Pkaystation 5 came 2020... that is 5 years ago. Typicall iteration is 6 years. Granted woth the pro.. pushing it to 7-8 years is resonable.
To me the only reason the do sort of the half gen is to get two way compability.
Granted. Sega did that with the x32 system alreddy in the 90s
2028
Ps6 will come in 2027
So you expect your Ps5 to last until 2032? 😂 Mine will be 12 years old by then...
@@danmac6185 I expect my PS5 Pro to be doing just fine till then
Frame generation on a console? That would kill the reponsiveness.
not necessarily ,.. higher latency on a controller is less noticeable than you may think.. it's more noticeable when playing with a mouse
I dont know why, but i instantly think something like, oh, 10-15% more perf than 5090?
Absolutely not
@@t_dappanext gen consoles are usually 6 times stronger than their predecessors bare minimum. It’s definitely going to be in the same ballpark as a 5090 especially in 2027
@@denisn8336 you’re deluded if you think within 2 years a 2000 dollar gpu ON ITS OWN will be in a 5-600 dollar console. What you fail to realise is that the price of tech is no longer falling at the same rate it was in the mid 2010s so you in this economic climate I’m expecting a 5070ti to 5080 level raw compute. Though you can expect more powerful AI solutions which will increase the effective performance of the console.
Do you think there will be more customizations than the PS5/PS5 Pro?
If PS 6 gonna have X3D technology then I'm buying it. These could immensely boosts CPU+GPU performance with probably upgraded AI Accelerators as well.
With the news of all Sony games cancelled, it’s strange to hear PS6 details this soon.
They aren't details, its just pure speculation anyone could cook up. q3 2027, 2n, 3d v-cache zen 6 10 cores, udna chiplet, 5090 performance blah blah. See I'm a leaker too.
It’s definitely gonna be a PS5 Pro/Pro
Umm, you worded that statement in a way to convey a fallacy in what's happening.
There are multiple losses in the area of AAA gaming, and not just by Sony. They're also cancelling some online games. However most projects are going forward, and new projects are starting or already started and what Sony wants to see is more AI incorporated into games, and this means the logic of the games, not AI upscaling. So, this means getting rid of people that don't have this kind of experience and getting together with people that have already started developing using AI.
Got it?
There's going to be a PS6 and there will be plenty of games for it.
@@johndoh5182 It’s over son!
@@johndoh5182
Sony defense force over here lmao
Doesn’t matter how you spent it…
Sony has spent the last several years waisting resources on games that no one asked for and canceled them anyways
Those same resources could have been dedicated to numerous AAA games people wanted OR remakes of games from PS1/PS2/PS3 that people actually miss
Putting BluePoint on support followed by live service slop is a FALLACY
Ps5 / series x generation has to be the worst console generation in terms of games
Ur cooked... this gen has been tge best gen HANDS DOWN for console
Name me ONE GEN thay got better games than
Horizon fw
Gow rag
Returnal
Elden ring
Black myth
Dragons dogma 2
Ratchet and clank rift
Demon souls remake
REsident evil 8/ free vr game
Re4 remake
Forspoken
Final fantasy 16
Final fantasy 7 rebirth
Gt 7/free vr
No man's sky free vr add on
Dynasty warriors origins
The CoD games
Ncaa football 2025( back after 15 years)
Expedition 33
Gta 6
Wolverine
Space marine
Astros bot
Hell divers 2
Allen wake 2
Stellar blade
Armored core 6
Baldets gate 2
This is just the 3rd party and playstion AAA games.....in the first 5 years
If you think that's a bad line up or " the worst" then ur cooked and just and idiot, I DARE you to go find a gen where we had that many good games in 5 years....
AND ITS JUST THE GAMES I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD...
Ur a cooked moron or just a pc idiot who is mad games ain't day and date on pc.... stop being an idiot and buy a playstion so you can buy games
We looking at something around the grand daddy of the strix halo on steroids....
Btw 10x to 15x the base ps5 performance with 80 tops and 3dV cache 32gb u ified memory 2tb SSD UDNA
Are you dense? Ps5 pro has already 300 tops
more like 3x ps5 performance, Even if n2 gets cheap enough with enough available capacity to make consoles in 2 years.
Neural rendering doesn't even look as good as native, the motion will be far worse
Much more interested in NS2 than PS6 for now…
PS6 is years away and the PS5 1st party lineup is thin with several studios still 4-6 years away from releasing games
NS2 will be more of the same. I couldn't be less excited. Nintendo went about as safe as they could without calling it the Switch Pro, because that's exactly what it looks like. That new MK tease looks identical to MK8.
@@webhead4414
PS5 and Series X are literal carbon copies of the PS4 and One generation bud lmao
And you’re right, I was definitely expecting MK9 to be a racing sim with photo realistic graphics
Seems pretty clear to me that the PS6 will get a unified 3D cache for the CPU and GPU and NPU.
There is no chance to be on 2nm. 2nm is not even in production stage, it is still in risk production, which means they have issues with filling the wafer with at least 95%. AMD and Nvidia cannot get test wafers until q2,3 of 2026. Even when it comes, it will be very expensive. They announced their next GPU's and CPU's few days ago to be on 3NP.
Will it fix it mor space for gamees
I’ll be honest. If it’s not AT LEAST twice as good as the PS5 pro performance for less than £700 this time not many will go for it. Same with new Xbox. We don’t want AI lag either. In any way shape or form.
I'll probably buy one because I've always bought every generation of Playstation ever since I was a 10 year old kid saving up for a PS1 in the 1990s. However, I'm aiming to buy a RTX 5080 at the end of the month, I doubt the PS6's GPU will be more powerful than that graphics card so I'm not really excited for the PS6 from a hardware perspective, but as long as the games are good I'll be fine.
lol, rtx5080 is doa , its barely faster than rtx4080 , 10% at most . and you cant compare pc gpu with console gpus , pc gpus perform worse , windows overhead issues , ps6 gpu is being designed for 2027 release it will be more powerful than 5080 forsure.
@@parm2-x7hlol, the 5080 is as fast as the 4090 if not faster, the ps6 will be no where near the perf of the 5080, may not even beat the 4080, maybe 4070 ti at best.
@@parm2-x7h And yet in the real world the PS5 Pro, touted as an RTX 4070 Super gets slapped by an RTX 3080... The PS5 Pro 2024, RTX 3080 released in 2021 🤣 PS6 will be at that 4070 super level, only it won't be lie this time.
@@parm2-x7hDoa? Lol the 5080 alone will outsell the entire AMD 6000, 7000, and 9000 series cards combined
How many TFLOPS we expecting for raw raster performance?
16.7 TFLOPS on the PS5 Pro. PS4 Pro was 4.19 TFLOPS. So a 4x jump between pros.
The vanilla PS5 was 10.28 TFLOPS vs 1.84 FTLOPS on the PS4. So around 5 x jump.
Can we expect a 4-5 x raster performance increase by 2027? That would be pushing something around 68-80 TFLOPS.
AMD's current champ is the 7990 XTX with 88 TFLOPS. That's been around for a while now. Is it unrealistic to expect THAT level of grunt in a console for 2027?
That's not how flops works
@@beerendrachaudhary3872 Can you elaborate, sorry? I was just talking about the number of TFLOPS for raster performance, I wasn't talking about how it works.
@@scott-richardson in simple terms 4 5 x improvement is good for ps6 less than that isn't good as you stated but it won't mean 4 5 x times FPS
@@beerendrachaudhary3872 Oh gosh no, I wouldn't expect linear improvement in FPS. Got to factor in the fact that the game engines will be more complex, the graphical fidelity will be higher etc. I'll be happy if it does TRUE 4K 60fps with high quality anti-aliasing and detailed shadows etc... I guess we also need to expect AI based upscaling and possibly frame generation? But I still base my comparisons on raw performance without the tricks. And I also guess we need to account for ray-tracing capabilities which isn't part of the raster performance TFLOPS.
@@scott-richardson Comparing TFLOPs between different architectures is basically pointless.
cool stuff is two years away? Wow insightful
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Let me guess, is it rdna 7 with 74 taraflops?
It feels like ps5 just came out yesterday
I know. It's proof that we are getting old.
2027 is too early. I can only guess they've pushed it up a year because of new Xbox jumping ahead to 2026 smh. If the PS6 uses UDNA 1 and not UDNA 2, then I'd wager there will very likely be a need for a PS6 Pro because they couldnt wait long enough.
If the jump is too big i think they are releasing both PS6 and PS6pro.
Maybe the pro will have the full chip at very high clock and the base model use the same chip but very cut down n downclocked to ensure they don't waste silicon.
Its just a guess, and im not if that way the PS6pro would have 50% more performance than the base model
We got ps6 before ps5 games 😂😢
10/10 response
There is no way a console in 2027 would use hbm memory. I believe that maybe the rtx 7090 will. It simply costs a fortune
At that point in time you would be able to do 4K 120FPS with gddr speeds at mid range costs. The only reason you would want HBM would be 8K which doesn’t sound feasible anyway.
PS fanboys wanting to build hype like the Switch for the next system when the PS5 Pro just dropped.
Doesnt make sense.
No way were skipping 2 whole generations for elder scrolls 6
even if they wait 3 years from now and get zen6 cpu ... they wont be able to push the graphics far enough ... they would need to build a system with a 9070xt successor like a 10070xt with a really good fsr4 iteration ... they would need a framegen and upscaling monster that they can push far beyond what the ps5pro can do ... otherwise why would anyone upgrade ... obviusly a zen 6 cpu might get them finally into high refreshrate gaming ... but lets wait and see
It will be a monster and I hope it will deliver visual fidelity on par with a 4080/9800x3d rig for a good price tag. It will probably be $1200 but if it can deliver like a $3k PC people will buy it.
Already the ps5 pro stacks up to a 3070/6800, so hell no ps6 power and Performance will be equivalent to a 3090ti and ray tracing equivalent to 4060ti/4070 this time now, only big jump will be the cpu, the gpu will be Minimum Because really the problem is the CPU zen 2 trash
@@sonykingofgaming_22If we look back at history PS5 Pro should be like a 4070ti Super paired with a 7700x.
@ZackSNetwork 🧢 the ps5 pro is 3070/6800 they did test already that's what it's equivalent to plus digital foundry already shut down that 4070 nonsense when they had to use a special Software to down lock the 4070 to the lowest of low settings to try and match the ps5 pro and the 4070 still Outperform it
I cannot believe they would do such a thing!!1 😱
Honestly I think we can push a LOT more good games on this generation and not worry about next gen hardware. Games are suposed to be fun and not about 120fps while raytracing. Sony should have taken better care of their gaming studios instead of shelling millions of dollars on games THAT NOBODY WANTED TO PLAY. Its like they have no idea what they are doing. I am surprised how so many bad companies manage to generate so much money. Take a look at Steam winning over all the handheld market while Sony was the one who decided Eh, we don't need a new handheld. Its not like we are a gaming company.
They literally don't care.
I don't think it's a leak we already know like in ps5 they are gonna use previous gen cpu and current gen gpu😅
My biggest worry is whether 1st gen UDNA will be perfect on the first try and a big enough jump for it to feel like a truly next generation, just look at Nvidia's 5000 series it only increases performance by 10-30% increase over the 4000 series equivalent!!
Sure Sony can use 2nm, joint X3D+3D V-Cache, PSSR, NPU, etc, etc but I just hope it's not rushed too early.
Oh i have feeling it would be. Compared to current ps5 thats 6750xt level and ps5 pro at 7800xt. Guessing ps6 will be 7900xtx level minimum and above.
@@miyagiryota9238 But that really isn't much is it, that like playing a game a little under 1080p to maybe getting to 4K. That will just look a little sharper, maybe you can turn on a few extra things to make it look a little nicer, maybe a few more NPCs or denser vegetation but we need a proper next generation feel. Most of the time I don't know if I'm playing a PS5 game or a good PS4 game! I kind of blame the XSS for that but maybe that is too hard on MS, maybe it's just not big leaps anymore.
@miyagiryota9238 it ain't close to the rx 7800xt. But let's get over that .
For next gen performance ,sony needs to give more than 300 watt total system power.
The ps6 should at least come at 450 watt. Let's be honest here .
The ps5 pro is power starved.
The igpu could clock higher if liquid metal was still applied. Tho it won't change the main problem. The cpu when you get a cpu clock boost ,you need to give up a bit of gpu power
I want a PS that can deliver like a PC. Ever since I got my high end PC I can't look at PS5 games anymore with the exception of a few exclusive which are obviously showcasing what can be done if a game is specifically developed for one console. My PC deliver such insane visuals that playing even in quality mode makes games look blurry. I fucking hate it now. I didn't see it before but now I do. Like Plaque Tale Requiem looks horrible on the PS5 dude. Even if you turn down all settings on the PC it still looks sharper and runs at higher frames than the PS5 version. I want the PS6 to be on par with PC gaming. And I'll happily spend up to $1200 for it. I've been a console fan from the beginning and while I enjoy PC building and gaming, I'm a console gamer at heart. But I do want that high fidelity for console games. I think it's about time we get that.
The rumors in the past have been RDNA 4+, so you could see an RDN4.5 or UDNA
And I'd just assume that Sony knows what they're doing since they launch good products. They're not going to use the next "best" thing without a lot of testing and it would be just as easy to use 4.5 or UDNA because either would be upgrades to RDNA 4. And AMD WILL produce RDNA 4.5 because they are dedicated to the laptop market now, and you need new generations of products each year for laptops.
*PS6 is going to stomp the current gen and it will be beautiful. Not having to depend on FSR/PSSR to achieve a framerate above 60 fps at 4K in Beautiful graphics settings is most preferred. It will reduce latency substantially.*
What
Next generation consoles being stronger than last generation is nothing knew. Also most games will still not be native 4K and at 60fps. You clowns never learn. The big leap next generation will be the CPU performance, AI upscaling and Raytracing.
Everyone say 👏 Dynamic 👏 Resolution 👏
You ponies are a joke….
PS5 Pro hasnt even gone out for a year. Where DAFUQ are these PS6 specs coming from.
@Twitch_Moderator just like what a 500 watt mid tier pc of 2027/ 2028 will do ? 🤣NOPE.
If sony doesn't design a console that can be allowed to draw more than 300 watt ((( total system power )))
The ps6 will lag behind for it's time .
If the PS6 is half as impressive as you, I'd be very happy.
there wont be 3d vcash. Im 100 percent certain !!
Is it a possibility that sony will use a high end GPU instead of low/mid range?!
Or cost and power requirements will keep them away from highest end?!
Wouldn’t Zen 6 be a bottleneck by 2027/28?
Meh consoles have lacked in the tech area for awhile now. I used to be more enthusiastic about new consoles but since I've been on pc I've noticed consoles are just playing the catch up game. Shouldn't be no surprise it'll have amds stacked v-cache. Ps3 has more interesting tech mainly because of a processor that was built from the ground up, nowadays its just amd stuff which is understandable since its cost efficient.
2027 launch with hardly any PS5 first games and so far plagued by remasers and cross gen. No way! PS6 is prob delayed till 2028-2029 for TSMC N2 and AMD UDNA 2 and Zen 6-7.
Should allow Cerny some time to make a truly transformative console, not just a half baked one. The AI tech NVIDIA previewed at CES (neural shaders etc...) should be a lot mature and viable 5 years from now.
I hope so
Sounds like you want a $700 console...hell I kinda do tbh
@@sobversion3 it'll have to be. Sony can't rely on resolution and stronger GPU this time. Gotta push hard for everything else. Cerny even called rasterized rendering a dead end.
Just don't see Sony selling a console using TSMC's N2 below $699. That node will be expensive AF even in 2028-2029.
Perhaps if it's diskless $599 is doable, but $699 still seems more likely. It's also possible they keep everything except GPU and CPU on N6 and stack the N2 chip with GPU and CPU on top. Would be an easy way to save on cost. we'll see.
Keep in mind the engineering team isn't responsible for the development software team of making games at Sony. The technology will keep advancing and these plans has been planned for years to execute and it's entirely different from making games.
@ agreed. Just no point in making a new console only 1-2 years after the mess we're in rn is over.
PS5 Pro took extremely long to release compared to PS4 Pro, and I just can't see the PS6 being released in 2027. Makes ZERO sense. Going to be delayed. 2028-2029 is more likely.
IF PS6 launches with all that + 3D V-Cache, we looking at a $800-900 console coming and with a $1000 Pro model the following year or 2
Wow an entire console for less than half the price of a new gpu.
@@notwhatitwasbeforedepends on the GPU
But i rather buy the expensive console
And? Where's the problem? The more it costs the more you get back on reselling 😂🎉
no disc drive, no buy.
I remember these same titles for the PS5 and it turned out to be one of the most disappointing gens with it barely being able to run modern games properly coupled with the fact that these devs aren't really pushing boundaries anymore. No passion anymore pure business has ruined gaming and 4 years in and we're still waiting for "nex gen" all these games coming out could easily run on PS4.
I've had a PS5 since day one, and the PS5 Pro is of zero interest to me. I do hope the PS6 will have a much bigger jump in performance, given how good the PS5 was day one compared to what was before it.
I'll just sign up on mailing lists here and there as I did before the PS5 was released, to get notified once it's possible to order, because I managed to avoid all the scalping drama and all of that last time.
People who whine the next time as well if they cannot get their hands on one, never tried in the first place. Personally I showed my interest 12 minutes after I got an email, so that made me able to grab one of the first one's.
Obviously no guarantees in life, but if you do not try you will definitely not get anything.
why do people keep speculating stacked dies for the consoles? reminder the consoles cut the cache size of Zen2 in half. maybe they should stop lobotomizing the base specification, then we can entertain the idea that they will pay the added cost and complexity of a 3D stacked L3 cache.
Im guessing here but..
On a APU theres a chance to have shared 3D cache
L3 cache and/or Infinity Cache is probably more important for getting the most out of the GPU as opposed to the CPU for PS6.
If there are similar amount of games as ps5 had at launch time there is absolutely no point buying ps6 on release.
And i just bought my ps5 a few weeks ago.
I'm just afraid they are going all fake path like Nvidia went. But it seems a huge jump in terms of cpu and gpu.
Actually God knows what's happening with 1st party software with Sony? Why bother launching a next gen console if you keep canceling every game far into their development cycle.
Lets see sony demand for hmb4.
Im not getting a ps6 till i see good games. The ps5 is the last playstation console i buy day one.
If sony wants performance, they will have to bite the bullet and offer more than 300 watt total system 💀.
The next gen consoles should be around 450 watts .
The consoles are powestarved
“Powerstarved” is them trying to keep the consoles under $800-1000 lmao
@@jarde1989 and after we complaint about how it doens't keeps up
lol within 5 years ponies will have payed the equivalent of a high end pc for a console 😂😂😂
Ps6 before games on PS5 😔 💔💔💔
Yep, seems that way if rumors are true. My PS5 has been very quiet lately, and now Sony is up to 10 canceled games I think? Shame all those resources, couldn't have been used for more 1st party games that made the Playstation as popular as it is.
lol now that the pro is out we move on to the 6
Well if people thought $500 for a console and $700 for the pro version were too expensive...
Those ppl who thought that are morons/ignorant....
Here we go again.
I don't care when the PS6 will come! I hope in 2030 or later! Just got the PS5 Pro!😂
Those specs sound fake as fuck lol.
Some dream console
A new playstation 6 after 12 game cancel , you Sony fans are crazy if you rhink that Sony can survive another generation like this one . For the next 10 to 20 years there are going to be only 2 mayor companies making video games Xbox because they have all the games olus money amd Nintendo because they are the king. Nintendo have so many first party that they can survive selling those games .
Let's all hope that is this wil be the leap that we are waiting for.
no
@randalldraco3822 Hope always die last.
I think it is more important that a game is well optimized for the hardware. I don‘t need another leap.
@@lowrider2756 It's the combination of the two basically on overall leap especially in playstation console standard's with the very best optimization (especially compared with or against the pc ports) and you have the real deal.
Bro ps5's life just getting started wtf you mean ps6? 💀
If it doesn't have fake frames & A.I it will worth nothing.
ps6 is coming 2030 !
I hope so!!! Just got the PS5 Pro!!!😂
ps6 before gta 6 ?
This console stuff is rediculous! We need good games not hardware. There’s nothing to even showcase the current consoles. All the lazy development is holding the current consoles back not the hardware
Stop it the 5070ti will be better than the ps6, the 6070ti will be what most people buy in 2027/2028. PC gaming has won now over to the peripheral wars.
Console gaming won years ago buddy. PC is the least relevant part of the market. I'm not joking, it goes Mobile, then Console, then way down at the bottom is PC. Y'all simply do not buy games 😅
@ pc will win in the end. Console market not growing, why can’t minimum 5 million people buy PlayStation exclusives? The same people are buying games and 1 to 2 million people is not enough. Black myth and helldivers sold over 8 million on PC
Talking about PS6 when the PS5 generation has been complete trash with remakes/remasters. Hardware isn’t going to change the fact Sony first party is failing massively and buying exclusives does nothing for Sony image.
I hope not... I am not paying 1000 for a console
April the first😅
Next Xbox will blow it out the hemisphere 😊
Everytime a new console is ''leaked'' I hear ''IT'S A MONSTER!!!!'', then it comes out and it is trash. I am looking at you ps5, 30fps on most games lol
Do you even have a ps5? You know there two modes or more on each game....
@davidvillamarin-lj2pf I do! It is either 60 FPS(ish, it fluctuates a lot )and PS3 graphics or 30 FPS (stable) and decent graphics (not good, just decent)
@@edoardotrotta8006 That's not close to the truth. Not sure what the purpose of this post is.
When I play games with my 4090 I often get only 60-70 fps on max settings. If a game is well optimized, the graphic fidelity difference is not huge, to be honest. In short: I prefer the ps5 pro over the pc, because the pc is crashing, stutting and makes a lot of noise (and costs over 6 times more than the ps5 pro).
Ps3 graphics... Fanboy are the worst. The lies. Can't stop laughing with so much stupidity.
😂😂😂ps6 won’t have no Zen6 X3D CPU over exaggerating especially when no hardware don’t even use it yet and AMD haven’t even released it 😂😂😂
new hardware already??? damn this generation was so doodoo 🤣🤣🤣
now i don't know f all about how pc's work not really. lightning gets fired through rocks with tiny transistors printed on them and that make pretty picture on my screen great. that being said. i don't like AI frame gen. i wish they could find a way to use AI to speed up the actual frames not insert fake ones. i want lower latency with my extra frames otherwise i don't see the point in having them. From what i understand its because of CPU bottlenecks. there's got to be a better way to solve the problem. i think the power is being used wrong. now i know I'm going to get a bunch of people much smarter than me tell me why what i think is dumb and that's ok. but I'm just not excited about the tech. if the ai offloaded some other compute so that the games could actually run faster i think that would be better is all.
:| ps5 had like 8 games.
Why are people just not building used computers. Jeeee wizz
PS6 is not even a thing yet, just a probably/maybe video
Inb4 PS6 is 1000 dollars KEKW
It will be $1200 I bet
Still cheaper than a gaming pc.
high end hbm and low end gddr
GDDR isn't low end. The difference is stack, and people often forget this. So, the data transfer is very close between the two standards. GDDR7 currently will reach 1.2 TB/sec. GDDR7x will hit 1.5 TB/s. Plus, affordability is a factor. HBM is expensive. GDDR is cheaper by a long shot.
@ hbm supports up to 10 TB/s, it destroys GDDR in terms of bandwidth
Who gives a fuck! Unless t’s also a toaster why will anyone buy a console that releases no games…
Can PS8 beats Ryzen 9 + 4090? lol
😂😂😂why would u believe tat the ps6 will have Zen 6 AMD X3D cpu when the current ps5 Pro cpu is on Zen 2 n the time the Sony fanboy was saying the ps5 Pro had 32 Teraflop and beating a 4090😂😂😂
In other words, won’t be here for 2 more years, LOL
Ps6 they hardly released any ps5 games
Let's gooooo
4k 120 path tracing pspr Playstation spectral perfect resolution.
Oww yea can't wait to see the 80.00 USD remaster of a remaster of a remast of a PS3 game 😂😂
i doubt ps6 come out in 2027 , ps5 pro just came out , maybe 2028 more likely
Indeed. I'd be really surprised if the PS6 comes out before 2028.
@@prodigy84bg wrong it's coming 2027 whether you like it or not
@@aggelostsirepas444 come back in 3 years and see.
Sort of.. ps4 cam in 2013, pro in 2016, ps5 in 2020, pro 2024.
But the ps 4 pro was later in the year and ps5 pro earlier. So that is bassically. Not quite a 3.5 year iteration. Brining the ps6 to december of 2027... while i guess march of 2028 is possible also
Worth to remeber that the ps3 had 3 main versions as well. The normal, the slim and the super slim.
The ps2 kind of also had a super slim but it wad never marketed diffently.
@@matsv201 PS4 Pro and PS5 Pro both came out in November. Every Sony home console in the last 20 years has come out in November. PS6 is most likely coming out in November 2028.
Also stop saying PSSR CALL IT PISSER LIKE A MAN 😂
How will they cool such a system and keep it in the correct power watt budget. Nobody wants a 3 m console 😂 but it won't matter as with console and game prices skyrocketing, agendas and lack of creativity and originality...it won't matter. Only a select few will be able to game as the rest and countries with weak currency watch gameplay on youtube.
Guessing ps6 will probably be Sept 2027
Also guessing minimum 32 gigs of ram
Sony might be working on their own neural rendering/ Pathtracing technology instead of solely relying on outdated Amd parts.