Americans FIRST time reaction to Ren - Crucify Your Culture
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Americans FIRST time reaction to Ren - Crucify Your Culture
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Love the Tesla talk, for me what boggles my mind is money is an invention, quite a good one, as a medium for trade, but when the medium becomes more important than ideas which benefit humanity on the whole either because A) they pose a financial threat to established systems of order or B) because they're finite and therefore more difficult to monetise (infinite energy source) then you've got to start asking, WHY is this medium (money) more important than the technological evolution and wellbeing of our species?
Worth a read: The Creature from Jekyll Island
Exactly this! ❤
You should rap about the patent system too Ren, if you haven't already, the way they can simply buy and shelve ideas. Again, money is more important than progress. In the end you have tons of money, debt, buying tons of trash. The solution to all our problems is love, but the technical solutions to our day to day material struggles are shelved by fear.
@@TheTaffia ya the 90s, 00s, and beyond only had Rage Against the Machine, System of a Down, NiN’s Year Zero record, Deltron 3030, Aesop Rock, even Eminem with Recovery, etc etc.
You know, the “neo liberals”. 🤘😬🤘
Can't wait to see the interview with Pegasus and you, Ren
As someone coming from “the left” of the political spectrum (whatever that even means anymore), I enjoy y’all’s commentary. Ya seem to be open minded and less divisive than other folks who talk about these things. So even when I don’t agree, it makes it easier to listen to what ya have to say. When others start every conversation by talking down to the other side then it immediately puts folks into defense mode and creates the division we’re seeing today. Anyways, appreciate y’all and loved the reaction!
Here here
The funny thing is to me, a lot of what they say ends up more left of centre than the average in America - still WAY to the right compared to my personal politics, but reasoned and considered, and I would love to have a few hours to discuss the topics with them, challenge their ideas as well as listen to their reasons, :)
Guys - if you created a specific political podcast channel, make it interactive so we can talk ok? :)
Same here. Especially being a UK 'lefty'. It can be difficult to listen to some of the more right leaning American reactors because US-right and the linked conspiracy stuff tends to be pretty far out compared to our equivalents. (Though of course a lot of it comes this way eventually.)
But Don and BP try not to be condescending or mindlessly divisive, which makes it an interesting conversation even if I reach a different conclusion sometimes. I wish more discussions could be as even handed; we might actually be able to move society forward if we could get past the tribalism and support ideas instead of picking sides.
American politics have shifted so far right, that someone like Bernie Sanders is considered a radical leftist, when he is only slightly left of center to the rest of the world.
Biden would be an 80's republican.
Word! I agree, though the conspiracy mumbo-jumbo can be hard not to react to but I respect their civility, so try to refrain from blasting the comments with “you said WHAT?!”. Usually anyways 🙈
Ren is a genius and his art sparks conversation. Everything he does has substance to it. That’s why he’s blowing up and that’s why his music resonates with so many. He’s an intellect well beyond his years and has the ability to speak on REAL ISSUES thru his unique special ability with music across the spectrum. His voice is so needed right now and he’s just on another level than everyone else in the industry. So grateful for Ren.
Another example of Ren’s music opening up conversations about difficult subjects- love this track especially the riff.
Looking forward to seeing your interview with Ren, BP.
I would love if this one could be a Don and BLack Pegasus react. .Please do, "Crutch" Ren, ft Bibi. I promise you will be blown away with yet another style/sound for Ren.
The song is probably top 3 of his raw power tracks, before you guys so this one make sure you read the backstory from him under the video. Knowing what led to it before you watch is essential and elevates power in the lyrics to a whole different atmosphere. Love you guys.
We got you!
It's a beautiful, heart wrenching, great song....
Oh man, it’s amazing - looking forward to you discovering it now.
Yessss!
My favourite Ren track and one that hits me on a super personal level. i struggle listening to it in truth but yeah its a absolutely beautiful track and absolutely heart breaking
I'm old ok - and I'm also an old punk rocker...never ever I thought society today was to tell me or decide what I can listen to or not... 🚫
Thank you for bringing up different kinds of subjects & talk about it.
Thank you for listening to Ren: it's bloody important that we do!
Lots of love from Valencia España ✌️
Been waiting for you to do this one, this is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥
Edit - 40 minutes later: yep, this was 🔥 I love these reactions, they are so loose yet so deep, and the feel really is just like hanging with BP & Don (which would be a blast I’m sure).
Loved this tune since the day I first heard it, been on my playlist on hard rotation ever since.
Keep up the great work guys, much love from Scotland 🏴
Just started watching but I've been waiting for this one too! I know it will be brilliant!
Thank you guys so much for speaking up. This has to be one of my favorite reaction videos. My husband says: the truth always comes out.. doesn’t it? Fuq 2020!! I also have friends & family that fell for it hook, line & sinker. P.S. Ren is amazing!
Much love and thank you so much
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The fact that I listened to the whole thing should tell you that you are on the right track. Nothing that Ren said in this song was surprising or controversial, but it got you talking about the issues, and that's the point. Reactions to bland songs are themselves bland content.
This wasn't bland, it was stimulating conversation about an artist who has something worthwhile to say.
Just a correction regarding “women sent to jail for posting rap lyrics” in the U.K.
No one was sent to jail, they received a fine and community service. And it was later quashed on appeal too. (Thanks to another commenter for pointing that out…I’d missed that bit in reading the real story)
The reason for the case being brought wasn’t for “posting rap lyrics” it was because of the context and use of the lyrics which made its use offensive.
Specifically, a young black boy died following a hit and run from a car hitting him on his bike. The 19 year old woman posted the following and claimed it was paying tribute to the boy dying;
“kill a snitch n**** and rob a rich n****.”
That was seen by someone and a complaint made that it was extremely offensive in the context of commenting on the death of a 13 year old black boy.
The defence tried to confuse the case by claiming that use of the N word is common in rap lyrics, and that somehow, posting that lyric was “paying tribute” to the boy.
The court didn’t agree and judged that the post was made to cause offence. Note, it wouldn’t matter that it’s quoting lyrics, or that it’s the N word, it’s the context and being judged to have been intended to cause offence - that’s the crime she was found guilty of.
It’s important to not take such stories out of context and misrepresent what it says about the legal system and free speech - just because such stories are picked up and used by certain groups to argue that “they’re coming for your freedom”, it doesn’t make it true.
(I’ve often followed up claims of silly laws to the actual cases and the judgements etc, and 99 times out of 100; the reality has been lost and the actual legal case and judgement makes complete sense - there are some rare exceptions, such as the guy who was frustrated that an airport in the U.K. was closed though snow and he joked he was going to blow it up on Twitter - and despite the context making it clear it was a joke, he actually got fined for it - so sometimes as the quote goes, “the law is an ass”, but in this case, once you understand the context of the case, m’eh, seems justified the woman got fined to me - I’m surprised to learn it got quashed later actually, I’ve got to go read why that was now)
Regarding why all the world governments seemed to suddenly take people’s health seriously in 2020 - I think you’re suggesting a money grab from selling the vaccines etc - I think it’s more than that. The virus was expected to kill up to 7% of the population had it spread without any measures to contain it and slow it down - only 1-2% it slowed so health care services could treat people, and even less once the vaccines helped - but it wasn’t ‘saving lives’ that motivated governments, it was the resulting collapse of the global economy if that level of disruption had happened - the level of financial panic, from disrupted production, from everything - it would have made the lock downs and the impact of those look like child’s play. So they did the cheaper thing to protect the rich capitalists etc…which coincidentally helped save millions of lives globally.
Just adding - apparently the conviction was overruled on the following basis;
“It's our view that the words which were set out on the Instagram account by Chelsea Russell were thoughtless, offensive and unpleasant.
"But it's also our view applying the [legal] test that they were not grossly offensive and therefore this appeal is successful."
- so the original court had deemed the context and circumstances to mean using the rap lyrics (along with the emoji of a gun and a pile of money) was /grossly/ offensive and hence illegal. The appeals court agreed it was offensive - but not /grossly/ so didn’t meet the criteria for conviction.
The accused maintained that they didn’t mean to be horrible - and that posting it was only expected to be seen by their followers etc…
The case has been decided, but from reading the background and context, I’m left with the impression it was meant to be offensive - and the woman ‘got off’ on effectively a technicality of it not being /grossly/ offensive, because it is a relatively high bar to be convicted of in the U.K. which is a good thing - meaning you have to really try hard to be deliberately offensive before the law kicks in to protect the people you are trying to harm.
Scotland in the house Ren got it right and if we could stop the thinking about this country vs this country false pride thing, I say false pride because it’s pure luck where your born. then we could actually possibly make a future for humanity that’s different from the greedy leaders of the world’s narrative. I say be nice to each other because we are all on a spinning rock hurtling through space. We are in this together 🚀
My man, the Hegelian dialectic is about how you take two opposing ideas (thesis and antithesis) and bridge them into a synthesis. Then that synthesis becomes the new thesis, a new antithesis arises, then a new synthesis on and on. An extension of this is dialectical materialism, which Marx used to analyze history and economic
Right!? That was right up there with them asserting that "capitalism and democracy breed innovation."
First, they have never lived in a country that has either of those things. Second, that causal relationship is PURE MYTHOLOGY.
You already had me "hooked" on Ren, but your reactions to him are F'N,(flipping) priceless!!(both of you) . Keep going y'all! Almost 80K!!
So awesome guys, I’m from Berrima in NSW Australia, I feel you, I 100% had nothing to do with politics until just before 2020, these last couple years have been mind blowing to me,,,, seeing so many folks (including friends of mine) just line up to show how much they do not think for themselves… if you know what I mean……
So amazing I think, you guys found REN and became fans …. To then discover (as I did) he has similar background thoughts on politics
Thank you Don, thank you BP 38:36
I was lucky enough to be born in America and raised in the UK. There is nothing wrong in being grateful for the opportunities you've been given, just be mindful how lucky you are, and that not everyone is.
This reaction isn’t long enough in my opinion 😅. I love when you guys just talk, and seeing other point of views! Can’t wait for the next one 😁
Exactly. Just listen to music is not enough for me.
In my opinion, your best, most interesting and intelligent reaction to Ren. Not one of his most recognised tracks, but how many other artists would initaiate this kind of conversation. Very enjoyable and if you do end up interviewing Ren, then hopefully this kind of discussion will happen. Excellent
While I may or may not agree with EVERYTHING Ren is saying, I applaud the fact that he's saying it (unlike 99% of all other Rap/Hip Hop today) and applaud the fact that you're will to not only listen to it, but TALK about it.
Ren puts into words what we all think but dont say, thats why we love him.
The Hegelian dialectic, derived from the philosophy of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, is a method of understanding and analyzing change and development through the resolution of contradictions. The dialectical process consists of three stages: thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.
Thesis: The thesis represents the initial or existing state of an idea, situation, or problem. It embodies a certain set of beliefs or a particular state of affairs.
Antithesis: The antithesis is the direct opposition or contradiction to the thesis. It challenges the thesis by presenting a conflicting perspective or opposing forces. The clash between the thesis and antithesis creates tension and conflict.
Synthesis: The synthesis is the resolution of the conflict between the thesis and antithesis. It represents a new and higher state of understanding or a new state of affairs, incorporating elements of both the thesis and antithesis. The synthesis transcends the limitations of the thesis and antithesis, creating a more comprehensive and nuanced perspective.
The Hegelian dialectic posits that history and human thought progress through this continuous process of contradictions and their resolutions. This process allows for the evolution of ideas and social structures, as the synthesis of each cycle becomes the new thesis for the next cycle of dialectical development.
It is important to note that the Hegelian dialectic does not necessarily imply a predetermined or linear path of progress. Rather, it is a framework for understanding how change and development occur through the resolution of contradictions and the synthesis of opposing forces.
It's interesting how many reactors are very quick to agree with Ren's view of consumerism, while being surrounded by boxes of unworn expensive sneakers and overpriced branded designer clothing and tech. We have all been brainwashed to just accept the corporate mantra of 'more toys means we are more valuable as people'.
As the old saying goes, : -"Buying stuff we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like."
Guys. I love your reactions. Not only because you are funny but also because you can talk about sh*t. And I clap at you because it is comforting to see that I am not alone on this. We are not alone, because we are realising that we are more than we thought.
In my humble opinion, I think what's happening with him is that he's opening the conversation and the dialogue when we all want to see everyone's thoughts and feelings on their songs. Butterfly/Ripple effect.
He talks about everything that's untouchable or unspeakable, taboo just to say. Because of censorship and because it is not interesting for the ones in power for us to get educated. Education, economics, politics, history, mental health, domestic violence and abuse, capitalism and consumerism... He knows shit. He's read the great thinkers and he also knows and talks about Tesla's knowledge being "capped". Because of greed. When anything is a threat to their system, they need to stop it.
I bless being born in Europe but you know what I bless more? that even though I had to go through shit in my life that made me go and touch rock bottom and had to think for myself to decide if life was worth staying, with lots of therapy and through all that, the veil lifted and I started seeing all the bulls**t around.
BP I agree with you about Coca-cola/ the big plan on 20 and all that is going on, and everything you say about your voice not being heard because you are not as popular as he is becoming. I found myself frustrated trying to open the eyes of my closed ones, family and friends. It didn't work. I gave up. What happens is that it is obvious to us, but it is not to those who are not ready or don't want to see. "None so blind as he who will not see". But we are listening now, and people are starting to see so I believe this is the right moment to use our voices and the platforms that we have created to be able to communicate globally.
Don, same goes to you and C and N and N targeting him. Sure they will. I am surprised it is not even worse. He drops truthful messages and people are waking up and accepting it. And we are becoming a legion.
I say it again, it is refreshing and brings me hope to see that we are not only 5 friends in the hood and that we can easier connect niches of thought through these platforms. I won't call them a creation of capitalism but human evolution. It is how we use it what would make it better or worse. We need to keep our views positive.
I can talk about this for hours too, I'm 44 too, also agree with Don saying I am happier and wiser within this body now than on my 20s, and I could sit for hours watching you guys talking about all these topics and love it.
BP I'm loving your music too, loving the lyrics and the beats 🤗🤙💪
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Love and peace to all of you.
40 minutes for a single track. (Rolls up sleeves) alright let’s do this
If you do Ocean, just know that the male voice in the chorus is a sample he manipulated. I’ve seen a bunch of reactors think it’s Ren - it’s not :)
I’d love to see you guys do Ren busking with Chinchilla if it ever makes sense for your content. There are two that are great - sexual healing, and one dance/drunk in love (drake/Beyoncé cover).
Sure you saw the announcement is Animal Flow on 5/4 😁
Yep💯
I loved the deep conversation.. Just be u. I like listening to both of you and your thoughts on all this. And pretty much other stuff too. I haven't seen a video i didn't like. Much love. Hope everyone is having a great day and night..🖤
I very much enjoyed listening to both of your perspectives!
Shout out from Portugal... you've nailed it... there's no wong or right...Freedom of speech... take care guys...
I've been waiting weeks for this reaction, and you guy's didn't disappoint!
Love the discussion guys! Thanks! Bottom line is we have to stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated and divided! The duality is the complexity that too many people don’t know how to handle, so they just choose a side and entrench themselves in their echo chamber!
You two are among my favorite reactors. If you had a daily podcast or talkshow discussing these issues uncensored, I would tune in all the time. Absolutely love your insightful, intelligent, albeight self-censored, discussions. God bless.
Ohhh man! Are you ready for this Tracks? Hope you are.. this is one of my favourites!! Can’t wait!!!
Loving your reaction...discussion and all related things. I had to pause it at the 30ish minute mark to comment, because I didn't want to forget my thoughts. While you guys have been talking (30ish minute), in mid screen is Ren's head and the words "OUR political" (my emphasis on our). And that's something I love about Ren's work. I don't hear him separating himself from any political group or country when he addresses these issues. He talks about as something belonging to all of us.
I may be 'Canadian' but I don't separate myself from issues being addressed towards America, Britain or anywhere else. The same core issues simply manifest themselves in different ways, and we are all part of an interconnected web of living and being interacting with all these systems. I really appreciate the fact that you guys are willing to talk openly about this stuff, even though you might get flack from some folks. There are times when you guys might say something that I may not necessarily agree with, and that's exactly when I know I need to lean in further to listen even more actively, and not distance myself or turn away. Love you guys. Thanks again for what you're doing.
Love your reaction. Keep speaking the truth.
Great reaction!!! Love your conversation around some of Ren's songs/videos etc... One of my fave Renactors!
Hi guys ren put out he is on board to do a lnterview with you and trying to make it happen many thanks love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing channel 👍
Sehr gute Reaktion von Euch beiden zu Ren und seinem Song!
Deshalb mag ich diesen jungen Mann und seine Kunst:
Er regt zu Konversation und Diskussionen an, in einer Zeit, von der ich persönlich schon dachte, die gibt es nicht mehr.
Ich glaubte schon die Menschen schlafen alle nur noch und folgen blind den Obrigkeiten.
Ich bin sehr froh über die Tatsache, dass dem nicht so ist - und das verdanken wir unter anderem auch Ren.
Seine Texte sind - aus meiner Sicht - die Provokation in reinster Form im positiven Sinne.
Wir müssen gar nicht alle in allem mit ihm übereinstimmen (was ich allerdings weitestgehend tue), aber wir sprechen wieder miteinander über sensible Themen.
Das gefällt mir sehr.
Es hat Spaß gemacht, Euch zu sehen/ zu hören.
Habt noch eine gute Zeit - mit den besten Wünschen für Euch
Birgitt
This is actually one of my favorites from Ren, I'm glad that you guys reacted to this was looking forward to it
I'm glad I live in Sweden... and I'm so glad about your political insight...
I don't know for sure if this is in a matching time in history, but I do feel like Ren talks a lot about American politics and government issues a lot, because he lived here for quite a chunk of time while he was going through stem cell treatments for his Lyme disease. So, idk, maybe he was actually here when he wrote this track, idk. Just something I thought about while I watching the reaction. Love the breakdowns, guys.
This was written before that happened. in late 2019 realeased April 2020
You 2 are amazing and I would love to hear y'all speak freely on some of this stuff. Ren makes you think AND feel so much.
Crutch and Love Music pt 3 - love music 3 is a super fun funny groove, spitting and singing. Ocean is amazing too.
Great link to the CNN piece - Ren has challenged the establishment with song like this one, Money Game and several others. One thing he's tried to help illuminate is that it doesn't matter who is in power - the system doesn't materially change, thereby encouraging people to look at what candidates stand for rather than blindly following a party that ultimately sell the same outcome in a different package. Since broadcast television stations have aligned themselves with one side of the fence or the other - the idea that the massive amount of people at these networks who are doing everything they can to keep their position whole and shut down other viewpoints is a valid one.
Modern propaganda is much more subtle than it was in prior years. Like everyone, these networks can see artists through all different methods who are gaining popularity - and will look through their work to decide if they will ultimately help or hurt their agenda, and will find ways to diminish them through other means.
Easier for them to let their impressionable viewers believe an artist like Ren is causing issues by taking a small snapshot of a song out of context than to play this song and walk through the points he is talking about.
I like your reactions in general but absolutely love your deep political stuff. We're on the same page 100%!
Mortgage = deathgrip. The banks buy your house with money they print out of the air. They load the mortgage with interest and tie you to pay more than once for the same think they bought for nothing. If you can't pay they take your only home from you and sell it for more profit.
It happened to me.
We had already paid the equivalent original amount.
Ren has said it before " Polarize the people controversy is the game" system is distracting us from our real WAR
I enjoyed the talk guys ❤❤
Bro, you brought up 311! Holy sh*t! Shocked me in a great way! You'll are dope af
Even in a kids film - Disneys “A Bugs Life” they told us what was going on when Hopper - the leader of the grass hoppers said;
“You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up! Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one and if they ever figure that out there goes our way of life! It's not about food, it's about keeping those ants in line.”
He’s saying elections are r!gg3d bc they only offer rich mfers that they approve of, so it doesn’t matter who you chose.
And to be fair he does throw a lot of shade on the PM and parliament in Britain. Everyone wants to say how America is so “free” and awesome, but we have the same issues as everywhere else in the world.
Every country has It's bull sh#* politicians and it always comes back to money 😢 love from Australia
One thing, I don't believe CNN was coming for Ren, it was just the reporter being lazy in her report, probably never heard any of Hi Ren, just ran some kind of search and that line came up.
Don't give these people too much credit.
Ren, the Da Vinci of music 💙🎶
This is the best breakdown and real talk I have seen from Ya'll I absolutely love the thoughts....Intelligence
loved the true thinking talk. We need more of this!!!!!!
Great reaction guys ✌️🙏❤️
This is it! Hits so hard. For Ren’s tribute to RATM, Check out Love Music part 3!
New track from Ren on May the 4th. 🔥
40 minutes of an awesome reaction, from the 40yr old FUQ Boys! 🤘
From the UK I like these reviews, But because US Americans are brought up in a Cultish society, US Americans answer to certain things, always go down a conspiracy theory route. 😉BTW The person you motioned who posted the rap lyrics didn't go to jail. She was given 8 weeks community service. She appealed the sentence, to the high court and her sentence was quashed. The judge said it should have never been brought to court. 😊
Thanks for alerting me to the case being quashed later - I must say, from reading about the original case, I’m surprised it was later quashed and I’ve got to go find that court ruling now to understand why)
@@sputukgmail In the UK for small petti crimes you are first summonsed to a Magistrates court. There is no requirement to be even trained lawyer. You apply and send in a CV. Job specs. To be aware of social issues, mature, understand people and have a sense of fairness, reliable and committed to serving the community. You also need to be able to: understand documents, follow evidence and communicate effectively think logically, weigh up arguments and reach a fair decision. Some decisions they make, can be illogical. That's why we have an appeal system that goes before a proper Judge. 😊
Also from the UK the fact she was arrested and there after given 8 weeks community service is crazy as it was said in the reaction who decides what hate speech is. On also on the cultish society comment there is an awful lot of conspiracy theories became fact if the mainstream are pushing it there is a good chance it’s a lie.
Exactly, only report the begining of the story, without the conclusion, so as to be able to push more panic and fear. That's not a conspiracy, it's a basic principle of censored/mainstream news. Government have been allowed to set the parameters to news for decades.
@@sputukgmail why wouldn't it be quashed, it was ridiculous.
This is the one I want more people to see! He's laying facts. Spitting them.
I agree with everything you say about this song and all the lyrics, ren gets people talking on most of his songs
Fine timepieces are a good investment, man. They never depreciate in value. You do need one.
Loved the discussion. And totally agree on the 2020 situation. Great reaction!
Facts 🔥...Most people live life with eyes slammed shut...open your eyes & educatucate 🕊
On it! More or listening than you think...to you and Ren now. ❤
Wow! loved your reaction. I normally fast forward when some reactors start talking, Not you guys👏 Try “How to be me” live - featuring Chinchilla, about the suicide of Rens childhood best friend 🤯
A Canadian here: Just a quick comment on the censorship issue happening. I was trying to watch a film (Nefarious) that looked interesting and could not find a theatre to watch it so did a search and stumbled on an interview of the producers who made it and they mentioned censorship in Canada because it has been banned here. Apparently this gem is really triggering to the far left in power now.
Thank you brothers. One world one future.
You guys kill me, but in a very good way. I come here to watch a quick music video reaction and end up rewatching parts of the video over and over again and looking stuff up to get my mind around what you're saying. An hour and a half later, I'm like damn. Love what you guys do. Never let anyone take your voices away.
Let us all know when that Rumble conversation lands. I'm polishing my tin foil hat and strapping in for that. 😂
I'm now subscribed
You frockers rock!
I deeply appreciate your perspectives.
I believe that when the brave people who fight for our country in these messed up martial actions and wars give up their most valuable assets (their health, their youth, their agency) in exchange for their neighbors' rights to speak, often in direct opposition to that same soldier's opinions and beliefs; I feel like the rest of us have forgotten how crucial it is to be civil and kind to those who have differing views than we do.
We don't have to be buddies, but we do have to learn to occupy the same real estate without murking eachother.
I agree also that the elites need us at each other's throats.
The concept dude was referring to about initiating an issue to instigate contempt between groups reminded of the tail wagging the dog. I don't know if anyone recalls that movie these days but it's all about misdirection. Watch this hand with the rose that disappears into a puff of smoke and you'll never notice the other hand slipping in your pocket .
Also, I wholeheartedly believe that yes, the machine beast that conducted the "pandemic" drill just wanted to see if and who would fully or partially conform and how well. It doesn't give a single fuck about your health or mine.
I also said those things in 2020, and that's why some people hated me, some people thought that I was mad etc. Well I don't care and nice that so many people are awakening. Your conversation was 💯 and really interesting. It's so sad that in a "free country" you can't say some words... ridiculous! I live in "free democracy" Finland and the censor is also here everywhere. Some opinions just are banned.
Love your reaction videos❤
Mate, my social circle drastically reduced after the start of the decade due to differences of opinion. People who can't read the data in front of them and make an informed decision on their own merit frustrate me. I understand some people want an easy life and just follow follow follow, but come on.. when it's this obvious and it's your health and livelihood at stake grow a backbone and make a stand
Gentlemen,
My great grandfather worked directly for Thomas Edison. My great great grandfather was asked to travel to America by an American UP Michigan) Banker. My grandfather engineered and built the very first working phonograph & auto loader in America. Today we can still view the phonograph in the Smithsonian interestingly that phonograph has my family's last name engraved in pearl.
When I first came across the likes of Money Game and this one, I was a bit nervous about how Americans might react because, from my position in UK, I had the feeling that criticism of capitalism could be very unpopular. I have been pleasantly surprised by the fact that nearly all US reactors have actually agreed with Ren's perspective on things
Yeah - so much of what Ren is saying is anti-capitalistic (he even claims that label in The Hunger) - which is so often dismissed in America as “commie” or “Socialist” as a knee jerk reaction that I feel has been pushed on Americans to think ever since Macathy (that’s not spelt right is it?) my perception of American politics is that anything or anyone who doesn’t take unfettered capitalism as a given, is dismisses as a commie, anti-American. It amazes me that people like AOC and Bernie are seen as “left wing” in America when they would still be right of center with their proposals in many European and Scandinavian countries, so when Ren’s explicit anti-capitalism, which is way more radical than what say the Democrats stand for in America, is generally accepted by so many American reactors…I gotta admit, I’m confused.
Either there is a massive untapped support for socialism and radical alternatives to capitalism in America, or…there’s some strange Venn diagram where music reactors over lap massively with left leaning politics.
(Or - a lot of reactors just don’t like to say things they think would annoy fans of an artist so they go along with things just to fit in and get clicks - and I do not mean BP falls in this category, and I don’t actually think many reactors could pull off the acting needed for this to account for it).
That’s a long way of saying - yeah, me too ;)
Edit: having just listened to Ren interview by Knox Hill, I have to correct myself - Ren does not see himself as anti-capitalist.
@@sputukgmail Totally hear what you're saying. (McCarthy)
Well, you can see that they just let Ren's blatantly stated views bounce off of their brains and then perform mental gymnastics that "in the center we sleep" complements their libertarian centrism. (See: Money Game reaction.)
But hey, even getting some anticorporatism out of them is a nice treat because it's so pathetically rare in America.
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 😊. Yeah I'm pleased that you are proud of being American brother. The countries you mentioned are so authoritarian and are locking people in the name of as you said social justice
Well done, gentlemen! Thank you!
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”....Ronald Reagan
Stay strong gentleman
United We Stand divided we fall
Stop the division; eyes open up
Tesla was a genius
Talking about all the collabs, who was the last artist you came across with such a great eye for talent? All of his collabs are Fucking home runs. Also Don we need a wrist check
Totally agree with what you say. I would not have taken what you said as anti anywhere else. Agreed we are as lucky as each other . We are all having our freedoms attacked. Here in the UK they are now arresting ppeople because they will protest peacefully , before ! Not after!
And so true on them polarizing us.. As Ren says "Polarize the people , controversy is the game, don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name". They want us kept divided , we need to find the common ground in each other.
Am glad a was born in Scotland lol 🏴🏴🏴🏴 xx
Preach away guys, I'm here for it.
I enjoyed this convo. People need to be talking about this stuff. I’m trying to navigate my 7 year old through the world and it’s so bleak. It’s hard to see a future for him. Ren gives me hope.
One of the things that I've been talking about with others regarding the last couple of years is that, outside of the medical situation of a pandemic, many people and organizations used the chaos and unease to further some truly sinister and selfish agendas. And at all scales. We often talk about corporate greed and systemic problems, but even at the interpersonal level I witnessed what I would call pure, selfish evil be done by those you would not expect it to come from. The pandemic was a big spotlight shining into the dark corners where all of these shady dealings and dark agendas were being advanced and magnified them on a global stage. What a wild time to be human.
Cake popped into my mind just the other day...🙃
He's going the distance
He's going for speed
She's all alone
In her time of need..."
Queue the trumpet.📯
So good hanging out with you guys! Super breakdown reaction 👍 & an interesting, brief History lesson on Tesla Thank you!
Preach
Love music part 3 by Ren is right up your street.. treat yourself 💕
One more comment just to say this reaction rocked!! ❤❤❤
I love why you guys do & I am a big Ren fan & I respect your willingness to discuss the issues.
On this one issue (Tesla) I have to chime in though -
Tesla was one of my fathers heroes along with Carnegie, Edison & others who invented things.
The old man was a rebel & a technologist in a world that barely knew what that meant but even he believed that the “free electricity” thing was bogus, beyond being a low voltage parlour trick.
We have serious problems not the least of which is a global power structure run by Big Fossil but not terribly far behind is a disintegrating factual knowledge base.
One symptom of that is people claiming one thing or another is true even though they have never read or understood a peer reviewed scientific paper on the topic.
I’m not an electrical engineer so if somebody produces actual research that says we can run something meaningful from passive ground based current, I’m all in.
Until then I’m with Isaac Asimov who said (paraphrasing to take the edge off) - democracy does not mean that the uneducated opinion is the same as the expert’s education.
I get that trust is hard to come by these days especially online, but if we are at a place where we cannot even put faith in scientific institutions - we are well and truly screwed.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
-- Plato
I heard a great quote today “In America you can change your party but you can’t change the policy, in China you can’t change the party but you can change the policy” the point being in the West we have “democracy” but it doesn’t change anything that matters. China well who knows but let’s face it the People in the West who slag off China have never been there so they are not qualified to speak on it so be cautious as to what they are telling you about a convenient enemy as we always need an enemy to distract the public from the real shit that the politicians are doing to line their own pockets
The death in Mortgage refers to the death of the loan, once paid the debt is dead. Source: Susie Dent, English lexicographer, etymologist.
Been waiting for y'all to do this one. I believe things will be said ...
Another captivating reaction folks... Earth is not always beautiful and hunky dory. there are blood sucking insects in every piece of land they do hide because they are very small and easily squashed but are not because people don't look for them or are blind eyed.
Love this reaction 👏👏👏
Build a secondary coil large enough to cross the spark gap. Run energy in reverse of the coils typical function. That's his true tesla coil. Lightning generator turned tesla coil
Awesome conversation
❤your conversation ❤ Ren for sparking it
Black Pegasus needs to react to Cake now!!! Frank Sinatra, The Distance, Never There are good places to start since they are among their most popular ones. He likes 311 so he should hear Cake.
ETA: I tried to leave it alone but have to comment- I love your commentary at the end. People often don't understand that the reason everyone talks about the USA when they speak of freedom of speech is because it's actually written in to the foundation of our country in a way that is not in most other countries (but is in a small number of others). I think that leads to misunderstanding when some people hear offhand comments that sort of circle around that concept. I love that you addressed that misunderstanding very directly and honestly. So glad Ren caused me to find you guys!
🌻🥀💮(Your flowers, sirs.)
I knew y’all would be able to really dive into this one. Dope song. Loved the reaction!