Skoda Scala review | Great car with a problem engine
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- The TSI engine mixed with the DSG gearbox seems to be having a problem in my test car. The Scala is a great car that I've tested widely but something has changed over the last few months and I suspect WLTP regulations.
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I have the same enginge in my Scala. You're enginge is fine. Your "issue" is caused by the DSG. When you floor it, the gearbox needs to go through some gears which takes about 1s when you go from 7 to 4. You might want to get some info on how a DSG or DKG gearbox works. The solution to smooth driving is simple: You got 150 hp in a small car -> you don't need to floor it. You got plenty of power. It's possible to easily overtake without flooring it. If you really do want to race than simply select the gear with the paddles, it will go into manual mode, so you can floor it and have imediate power. With a DSG you kinda shift with the gaspedal. The more aggressive you push it down, the more gears it needs to downshift. Since a DSG cant skip a gear it will take longer, the more harder you push.
Been driving a 2022 Scala for about 3 months. Haven't noticed any of the problems canvassed in this video. Great car to drive.
Thanks for your honesty in the review Bob!
No problem!
I bought a new 1.5DSG Scala two months ago, my third new Skoda (Citago, Octavia 2.0 diesel) and consider it the best car I have ever bought. Comfortable, quiet, economical and stylish. Skoda have done it again, do not be deterred by this road test, it is a fantastic car
Great honest review Bob 👍
Love ur informative vids
Bob, thanks for the detailed information on the flaws. I have heard about 1.5 / DSG VW group issues before, your video does a great job of explaining the flaws to potential customers. I'm considering a Kamiq with the 1.5 and maybe the DSG (not yet convinced about auto gear boxes) I'm now armed with suitable knowledge in advance of a test drive. Best wishes and thanks for all your informative videos. Ps hope you do one on the new BMW 1.5 petrol 1 series.
Good thinking Tim, I believe Skoda is calling in the 1.5ltr engine for some software tweaks but I'll reserve judgement until I've driven a random one that's been 'fixed'
Guess the Skoda got the cheap turbo.
Anders Nielsen huh?
Anders Nielsen no - Seat, VW and Audi are effected too. They’re all identical.
@Torreno1000 Hi yes i did drive the Kamiq (twice actually at different dealers), neither of the models i drove had any issues at all so hopefully this problem had been sorted through software. The driving i did was through the country side with little slow or built areas though. You will need to prove it for yourself. Very nice powerful and economical engine - good luck.
Finally someone highlights the delay issue in a review. I had the same engine gearbox set up in my 2021 Kamiq and for a while it drove me nuts. Best way I found to deal with it was place it in sport mode then back to normal after the pull away. But yes only issue I had with it. Super car. I use android also and had none of the tech issues you experienced. Great review as always Bob.
Great that this review covers the issues with the 1.5 unlike 99% of them. I am one of the hundreds of Briskoda forum posters who has a VAG 1.5 EVO engine and have had issues. The two main problems are the delayed response and the juddering / kangarooing. My Karoq manual new from April had a software update for the power delay back in June. Fixed that. Had the judder update a couple weeks ago - seems better but not completely fixed. VW TPI recall notice says that the power delay is something to do with ECU and alternator improper interaction.
Hi Stephen, could you give me some details in the software update for the power delay please? I have a similar problem with a manual 1.5 tsi, thanks.
Congratulations Bob on the unbiased way of describing odd and awkward situations in cars. A question : Would you prefer the previous 1.4 tsi engine with 150 hp and dsg of the group vag over this new one with the dsg? I know for a fact that the previous engine (with no act) never faced such issues....
Great review
Thank you!
The power delay is the DSG, the juddering is the engine. But it’s not the cylinder deactivation causing it. It’s something else because not all 1.5TSI are affected. It seems to me like the engine just isn’t being given enough fuel or there’s too much reliance on the variable geometry turbo at low RPM.
I’ve got one and the last software update seems to have solved it but I’m not yet convinced so I’m doing more testing now that it’s colder weather.
I've waited 16 months for the update to be released to my VW Golf 1.5 TSI EVO ACT DSG7 and it still sucks.
I has only reduced the juddering, not eliminated it and i still feels as if one cylinder keeps failing. What a disgrace.
I will never again buy or lease a VW Group car with that engine and is waiting for a diesel version of the Octavia to be released in Denmark or for a better price on the Kamiq diesel or 1.0 DSG7 (which is at the moment ridiculously priced 20% more expensive than the Octavia 1.5 TSI when leasing)
Oh forgot: The power delay is due to the new and mediocre version of the DSG and TSI engine and software. It is no present in the non ACT version with 1.4 TSI and the old DSG. The fooled me into leasing the 1.5 TSI by forgetting to tell me that the version I tested was a 1.4 TSI Golf VII.
MovieViking yeah I rejected mine shortly after I posted the original comment above. Took a gamble and ordered another one which luckily isn’t affected. They did make some adjustments to the cylinder heads for MY20 but I can still feel the issue under the hood ever so slightly when accelerating briskly in 2nd gear (DSG). If this replacement car had been 100% perfect I’d be happy but it isn’t quite so it’s obvious VAG are still trying to cover this up. I love my T-Roc but I’m with you: this will be my last VAG car. They are just not capable of producing quality cars anymore. Audi prices are a joke given the poor quality. Even BMW and Merc are slipping though and the mid-tier brands are really starting to shine. Kia, for example.
MovieViking the DSG hasn’t changed between the 1.4 and 1.5, it’s still the old DQ200.
Planning on waiting for new Octavia. Have the 172 facelift at minute and love it. Is there plans to pair the 1.0L TSI with the DSG option in Ireland?
Hi Bob. So do you still maintain your previous opinion about preferring the Scala 1.0 to the Focus 1.0?
very good review Bob. I like the camera angle you have around 10:50. The issue with long reaction time when you put your foot down. is it just in comfort mode or is it in the sport mode too?
I don't remember what mode it was in but the delay is the same in any mode. 1ltr is a far better unit
Bob Flavin okay! Thank you for your answer.
This is the advantage of a proper manual gearbox. U can control all this with the clutch pedal. And I believe software updates are available for the tcu on dsg models.
Congratulations Bob, the points you make are what people need to know about. I think you said you were going to be testing the 1.0l version so looking forward to that. Keep up the good work 👍 🙂
I'm in the 1ltr this week and it's like a different car, far far better in every way. Video soon
@@BobFlavinVideo did you manage to do a video for the 1ltr?
Hi Bob, big fan, got an A7 after your review. Now have a new toureg with a tiptronic gearbox, fantastic car but the worst thing about the car is that you can almost count to three before the car moves when you put your foot down. Wonder if new generation of auto boxes from VAG has anything to do with WLTP? Keep up the good work, looking forward to the next sunday service. |Chesterfield uk.
I'll be chatting about this on Sunday, keep the faith 👊
Wonder if those issues are better in the later 2020 version? I'm test driving a Fabia estate today but have asked about the Scala as I have liked previous reviews with the smaller engine and manual box; they all seem to shy from the auto to say the manual is smoother.
Bob what do you think about skoda scala 1.0 g tec is a better choice than the others?
Thank you very good
Have you driven the 1.0 TSI DSG? I wonder if that’s a better combination?
Fantastic in depth reviews, reminiscent of early days Top gear before Clarkson turned it into a light entertainment show. Great natural presenting style, brilliant!
Regarding the lag in the DSG box, I have only found this happens when in eco drive mode. This mode starts the car in 2nd gear. Thought it worth a mention.
Thanks for mentioning the 1.5TSI 150 issue, I've only seen you and Honest John mention it. I've got that engine in a manual Golf and have the same hesitation issues and kangarooing at cold, hopefully the software update will cure it.
In the process of rejecting my 1.5 130 Leon!! Actually want a 1.5 150 dsg!!
Good luck Ian. I've had the latest update in an 8 week old 1.5 manual T-Roc and it's not made a blind bit of difference. Rejection for me sadly :-( Hope you have a better outcome!
@@chrisrevell85 well hoping to reject the car, in the process at the moment, to potentially another Leon
Excellent video....I will buy scala 1tsi style ( no extras)next week 2019 less 5t.km less 20 grands 🤗🤗🤗
I love Skoda as a brand, and I very much loved this review, because I can feel the honesty and disappointment here. Other reviewers only talk about how good you can fit in the front and back seats, and how much garbage you can carry, but here I got to really feel what is like to drive this on a 1.5 TSI engine. And I'm also disappointed too, because I thought the car looked good, and it has all the bells and whistles that make Skoda cars great imo. Subscribed!
Great reviews, Bob. Can't believe so many reviewers completely ignore what by now is a well-known issue. Like you I am a big Skoda fan, but this 1.5 EVO engine seems to be a nightmare. Threads I have followed in both on UK and Czech websites suggest it is not simply a DSG issue. There were recent reports in a respected Czech publication that there is a cure for one of four batches of the engine. However, It seems a very tough nut to crack, and I am not sure software updates alone will cure it. I wouldn't touch one of these engines with a barge pole.
Had the same problem with Apple play connection with my Skoda Octavia. The dealership has done a number of updates which fingers crossed will resolve the same problems you had.
I found Bluetooth caused the issue for Apply car play, and depending on when the video was recorded car play is updated with iOS 13 and we’re on 13.1.2. So switch off Bluetooth. Might not work for you but worth trying if it happens again on another car.
Your phone needs to be unlocked at the start to work
Is it true that there’s a software update fixing the kangarooing issue across all the vw group? I’m looking into getting a Scala 1.5 (June 2019). Didn’t feel this on the test drive though!
What do you think about the reliability of 1.0 tsi amd generally for the 3 cylinder engines?
My partner’s Seat Ibiza with a 1.0 tsi and dsg also suffers from hesitation when pulling away. If stop/start is active it’s even worse. It also changes up through the gears so early it’s in 6th by the time you’re doing 30mph. Then if you need to accelerate you have to lock down and there’s another delay before it drops down a couple of gears. I wonder if any of this is to do with how the engines and gearboxes are set up to minimise emissions?
You are actually right. The automatic gearbox changes gears at very low rpm in order to save fuel and emit lower emissions, but you lose the opportunity for a quick overtake and sometimes the car feels sluggish.
Very interesting video. Even more so because I ordered a Scala with 1.5 tsi dsg 150hp just yesterday... I did test drive but I did not notice it. Maybe because currently I drive a 2017/18 passat 1.4 dsg 125hp and this is also a crappy engine with lag? Before this car I drove a 1.6 TDI manual golf and that one had a really noticable lag. If I put the passat in sport mode then it seems to have a little less lag. Anyways, maybe I got used to this problem?
Really doubtful about my choice now because this.video. I think I am going to test drive a 115 hp. Luckily I can still change my order in the next 13 days...
Many thanks for bringing this up! Finally someone who dares to bring up real flaws in reviews.
I just got a Scala - you now get one with the car
A nice honest summary for this car. I am still considering a Monte Carlo, with 1.0 dsg for its convenience though. It's terrible as a driver's car, even with 1.5, but otherwise it's a great a to b car, for the price you get decent comfort, quality, space. Is there really a better hatch for similar price ? I am not sure..
Insane price tag for one of those. Crazy money for Focus size Skoda
i think there are some issues already people reporting with this new 1.5 across all cars, particularly in the octavia and golf
amazing video . we need this type of neat picky material to make the final judgement . Scala is beautiful car but , i think octavia is better alternative .
Definitely a better car in the manual 1ltr!
@@BobFlavinVideo but i really have an aversion towards those anything below 1.5 motors . especially if it's a 3 cylinder ... my citroen C-elysee 1.6 hdi at 92 horses makes below 5 liters consumption and that's a 4,44 meters limousine .
I have a SEAT Leon with the same 1.5tsi DSG 7 speed auto transmission (150). I have NO problem with hesitation or delay. The point here is that the transmission has 3 modes Eco, normal Drive and Sport of which there is no mention of in the review. If you want a quick throttle response select Sport mode, perhaps this is why other reviewers like myself have not identified this delay as a major problem.
If it isn't a problem why are they fixing it in dealerships?
I've had multiple owners send me messages saying that Skoda are offering a fix to both engine and audio equipment
On Briskoda..Skoda owners forum ..over 2500 comments /complaints and cars being rejected over the now long running known issue with 1.5tsi engine..I'd personally avoid the 1.5 tsi like the plague go for the 1.0ltr.. Skoda /VAGit's the engine characteristic is not a good enough excuse ! Honest John flagged it too.
I finally got an ecu update yesterday for my 1.5 tsi Karol manual. No improvement. Still kangaroos down the road.
Just buy the 1.6 tdi none of these issues
36k? I bought one, they are more like 24-25k listed, yes with the same equipment
Has the 1.5 TSI kangarooing problem been sorted out for 2021?
A few people have said about the 7 speed DSG being hesitant; but to be fair I have noticed in the auto gearbox cars that I've ever driven there is a slight hesitation.
Do you know if the 1.0 dsg has the same delay issue as the 1.5 dsg?
The delay was a distraction at first, but *all* the VWs have it. Easy to get used to, and avoidable: if you want to overtake you can either coax the DSG into downshifting *before* you overtake by blipping the throttle, use the pedals, or put it in S. At a T-junction well the truth is i'll step on the gas right as there's still a car passing by, since i know it'll take half a second before i actually start moving.
If you can't bear all that you can just buy the manual.
The shuddering seems to be a common issue, but not affecting all of the 1.5 engines.
Come on skoda this setup works so well in the evo golf, speak to bob and get a firmware upgrade fix ASAP or your loose sales on what should be one of your best seller engine gearbox combinations
Glad i picked the 1.0L
Got a 20 plate from new (pre new model) Octavia Estate 1.5tsi dsg and I haven't noticed any of the issues you are talking about with the power delivery, only issue I've noticed is on occasion a little stuttering in 1st gear at low speed when trying to be light with the throttle. Can't really complain about the car, the drive or the power delivery which is really good in 148bhp. I switch to manual when I want to control the power if needed.
I'm guessing most of the early issues with the 1.5 tsi have now been sorted by VW.
Sounds to me like you have more of a problem with the gearbox and it's settings more than with the engine.
I own a Golf MK 7.5 with a 1.5 TSI engine with 150 PS. It has a manual gearbox. Never had any issues with it.
I have a different driving style, I never let the engine under 2k rpm. I usually keep it between 2k and 3.5k rpm.
Ireland is only country in the world were alignment of the road lane not exist, you can drive straight and suddenly you on wrong line or your line is narrower then your car and you can meet tractor or lorry on the front of you. Even better can be in Dublin where lines just disappear without any warning: 3 lines -one line - two lines one line -only turn right... I love travel around Ireland but some part of the country side are still in 19th century.(but road tax the same everywhere)
Sorry for my English
Today i was at Skoda for updating software , both car and audio! I can say that the car is much better and it have a much more power , but shooter ( juddering) is still - most on third gear !!!!
The car is Skoda Scala 1.5 tsi Dsg7
Finally, someone complaining about this engine publicly (BIG THANKS). I own a leon 1.5 tsi manual, and I had that lag of power you mention in the video. Some may say this is how engines fed with a turbo work, however, this engine behaviour is unpredictable, very dangerous in junctions and roundabouts. There's a "direct acceleration" tweak that sort of breakfixes it diminishing the lag to more acceptable levels, you need to have obdeleven or similar tools for that. One more thing, could you test the same engine (110kw -150 horses) with manual transmission? There's a very well known issue that causes the engine to sort of 'bounce' if you stay on 1st gear e.g. when youre in a traffic jam. It is unbearable and impossible to drive without looking like a rookie. This effect is so well known in the 1.5 tsi owners forums that people call it "Kangaroo effect". It would be great to have someone call this out publicly, cause VW denies any issues with the engine. Lots of customers affected without any reply from their dealers, besides "we don't know anything bad about the engine, you're driving it wrong".
Since this video I've had hundreds of messages saying I'm the only one complaining and thanking me for being honest, it's shameful that no one else is going mad about it. I'm seeking comments from Skoda and VW
Just got subscribed to your channel. Thanks again.
@@BobFlavinVideo Is in 1,5 TFSI AUDI same problem? I want buy Audi and now afraid after so many complains.
The door close sounded a bit "tinny" not typical VW/Audi group quality? I am right in saying it's bit "built to cost" by bean counters over potential build quality.
i've got a 2016 golf and my brother a 2019 kodiaq. yes, the kodiq is almost twice more expensive but closing the door and the actual sound is much more refined and has that depp sound in the golf as opposed to the kodiaq, and the door feels much heavier/solid despite being a hatchback.
As far as I’m aware the Apple Car Play disconnection issue is apart of the ios13 update bug, Apple has sent out a new update which has patched the bug and there should be no issue with connecting to the infotainment system.
At the time of filming, I was on IOS12. something. I've only updated to 13 yesterday and that still gives Bluetooth problems with the same stereo but apple carplay works fine. Android Auto doesn't work very often
Bob Flavin Understood. Also would you mind trying to do a video of the 1.0 version of this car for first time car buyers? I’m interested in putting this car on my list, but I would kind of prefer to see an Irish review from a reliable source. Thanks.
Tommie Tolan was this filmed before or after that update?
@@tommietolan Filming tomorrow morning with the 1ltr and IOS 13 installed 👍
@@downburst1 Filmed before installing IOS13, now I have IOS13 installed on the same phone
I have a 1.4 TSI DSG Octavia with a similar problem. After two tries, Skoda could only alleviate it, and 6 years on, it still happens, and can be quite alarming. I’m sure that the probelm is deep in the software, as it has to decide how to take up power after the engine recovers from coasting on overrun. Try explaining that to service reception.
Had a 1.0 TSI Scala Style as a demo for a week or so and found it a very good car
It had a very odd equipment list
It had really high tech stuff like LED headlights but no front parking sensors
I also encountered issues with the Bluetooth and infotainment system very very glitchy
Plastics inside where okay but if you look closely you can see it was built to a price
1.0 TSI is a brilliant engine nippy enough but I only got 41MPG which wasn't amazing
My advice to people Buy an Octavia it's a much nicer car
1ltr manual is my ride this week and it's great, none of the problems that I had with the 1.5. New Octavia coming soon
@@BobFlavinVideo Looking forward to the New Octavia
Handing back Corolla Hybrid Estate (Excellent car) and collecting a Kodiaq tomorrow which shall be fun 👌
I'd have LED headlights over front parkings sensors. I can park my car and seeing well in the night is incredibly important and understated at the same time.
Is the 1.0TSI a good engine for the Polo regarding reliability?
Too weak it's a 3 cylindre
Mate you wanna drive a Lawnmoner
@@Nahman1234 Too weak for Polo? Lol
Here in CZ Skoda last week announced an official recall for certain cars with the 1.5 engine manufactured last May and June. Sadly, it involved a tiny number of cars-and of course the Scala was not involved. That to me suggests the scale of the problem and that VW are really struggling to find a solution.
Pragwo1f ??
I left my car now for update ! I have scala 1.5 tsi dsg7
I'm thinking of getting a car from VW family - karoq, touran, kamiq. Need it to be able to handle long road trips fully loaded for vacation with 2 adults and 3 kids. I was worried that the 1.0 115 tsi would not have the power for it therefore I was going to go with the 1.5 150 tsi. But, this problem is making me concerned and I wonder if I should be looking at other manufacturers?
I found both our Ford Focus and Astra both can be buggy with Apple CarPlay in the exact same way. Often it is the phone rather than the car. Apple introduced added security to USB and so often you'll have to unlock your iPhone before the car will recognise it, and a message will usually appear too.
Gongratulations that you dared to reveal the truth about VW problematic technology at motors & DSG.
My girlfriend has VW Golf, so many problems with DSG..
Car is in service for weeks & it will cost around 2500 euro.
VAG , BMW, Mercedes are endless money pits as they age.
I watched so many reviewers with milions of subscribers & no one found any malfunction.
You have to be professional & honest , so people can better choose their next car.
Thank you, Bob.
I'm always on the consumer side, the 1ltr manual is a far better car to drive!
To get Apple CarPlay working, you need a cable that can transfer data faster. Which means you might need to use the USB-C interface directly, and not that adaptor, which may be the bottleneck
Many phone issues are down to the cable, try a good quality USB c to b cable. Good to see someone report on the 1.5 issues which only ever seem to get highlighted on forums. Expect the 999cc would be a better fit. Looked at the uk Scala when my karoq was in for service, with a few extras cost a lot more than my karoq and interior still looked cheaper than the karoq. Not sold.
There has been a recall on the interface problems in Ireland and a recall for the problem in the 1.5 TSI. The power of this channel is surprising!
would a good engine remap sort out the stutter?
I have the same connectivity issue with Apple CarPlay and my iPhone SE on my Skoda Karoq.It drives me nuts!
Do you think 1.4 TSI 150HP also got this problem?
The dreaded 1.5TSI and DSG delay. Read similar things with other applications in VAG. I've got the same engine in my karoq manual, no issue with juddering or hesitation.
Hi Bob, I just got an early 2020 model Octavia 1.5tsi manual, and it hesitates to pull off in 1st gear (struggles to find the biting point), it stalled twice on me when coming out of a junction, and there's a delay in acceleration when you apply the accelerator in 2nd and 3rd gear too, very disappointing and dangerous. I'll contact the dealer and see if there's a software update that can fix it. I don't know why other car reviewers are not highlighting this, because it's very dangerous when entering roundabouts and leaving junctions.
i drive a 2 year old Golf with the 1.5 150 HP engine and DSG. Usually run it in eco mode at 1500 revs on the way to work every day. I never noticed anything... must be a Skoda thing? BTW the lane assist in the Golf is flawless if you compare it to the the system in a current Daimler E-Class... That one positively brakes your car down when it has some lane recognition hiccups and you can't do anything but turn the system completely off. Compared to the e-class, I don't mind some odd steering impulse now and then, because i can still keep it in lane when that happens (usually around roadworks with added provisional markings on the surface). A colleague has exactly the same Golf. No complaints either.
By now i think they have fixed because i put my golf on garage vw to a little repair and they gived to me a scala monte carlo 1.5 dsg for 3 Days and well im thinking to get one lol i didnt feel any problem of power etc i was suprised for the power of the engine ! I Just didnt have time to know wht fuel consumation does on City..... If u can tell me ! Thx
I am currently looking for a solution to the issue of assistants being turned back on each time you start the car.
Did anyone find solution to that?
Thanks!
It's a software glitch. But you can get the software on the Scala updated. And it fixes the issue.
It's a shame the old 1.4TSi 150ps ACT in my Polo BlueGT was perfect ACT operation seamless with no delay at when foot down action required instant seamless switch between the modes always felt instant torque (the full 250nm of it) and 150ps of power when wanted could very easily make 7.5s 0-60mph (was a manual) with Polo no problem. Seems VW have taken away all the usability and performance flexibility now with the 1.5TSI.
Agreed, 1.4tsi is great, emissions are getting in the way
I'm glad I've caught the 1.4tsi (non-act) on my 2017 Octavia. So far so good, but I only have 9000 miles on it. Yes, really.
Try the Cla 180petrol.. they have a 2 sec delay before moving.. hated that engine
Bob, i think the gap for when you floor the gas pedal and the actual power happens is like a safety feature for trafic. I have the same gearbox and it does the same. When you floor it by mistake and you have the power instantly you can hit somebody. This is my view as a skoda owner.
Because a larger screen is an option and they keep the same form factor for the smaller screens
Usually VAG press cars are tune up.
I have this engine albeit manual in an Audi A3 sline, I bought it new in 2019 and I can't fault the way it drives, it seems the problem was hit and miss which is a real pity as when it works as it should it's a really nice engine. Mine has 105k on it now and never had a problem
The media issue with car play or android auto is the same on three Octavia cars i have owned over the last 6 years.its very annoying
if you need a quick response to your lead foot use the mode selection to sport
Thanks Bob and to all for the comments below. Will now by the 1l 115bhp manual box version
The delay issue can be minimised by putting it on Sport rather than Drive..
That's exactly what I have learnt to do with my almost completely vile Seat Arona 115PS DSG, where pulling away from junctions is otherwise even more heart-stopping than Bob describes here. I think the problem is inherent to DSG transmissions and particularly the sh!te VW DQ200 7 speed 'box which seems to be more concerned with preserving its little dry clutches above all else - just try a quick 3-point turn manoeuvre to see how slowly and gently the clutches engage. I spend almost as much time moving the gear lever in the Arona as if it had the manual box. My advice is to never, ever buy a smallish VW group car with a DSG gearbox. Maybe all DSG 'boxes are sh!te.
Hugo Cass they’re not all crap. I had a Golf 7 DSG and it was flippin brilliant. My new car (T-Roc) has the same DSG and it’s nowhere near as good.
The DSG only works well with certain engines or you need to stick it in Sport and then it shines.
@@hugocass8381 We have 3 DQ250's, in a 2012 Mk 2 ,2.0 TSi (owned it for 6+ years & still love it....) & 2 Mk 7 Golf R's, ( I know, we're greedy but one of them is the sensible wagon...). No problems, at all, the later ones have a better shift lever (D/S is just a flip back against a return spring) & updated software, tweaked to suit the R engine but they're all fun to drive. We've also owned 2 earlier DSG DQ 250's, in a 2010 EOS & a 2011 Octy vRS, again no problems + they coped very well with the stage 1 remaps too. I've driven cars with the new 7-speed DQ 380, not noticed any problems, but they were all 2.0 litre engines. I might downsize from the Superb, but I'm going to stay with the bigger engines, at our low combined annual mileage we can still afford the petrol!
David Clark Like the Skoda Scala that Bob has been testing here, my Arona has the dry clutch 7-speed DQ200 which is apparently the most troublesome, according to honestjohn.co.uk , as well as being somewhat flawed on the road with a rather hesitant nature. Apparently the higher torque capacity ‘wet clutch’ DSG boxes which presumably include some of yours, are much better but I will not ever buy another DSG equipped car if there is a conventional automatic (torque converter) alternative.
@@hugocass8381 I have driven the DQ 200's, in a Fabia vRS (yuk, very abrupt shifting, a real PITA IMVHO) & in a 1.8 TSi Mk 2 Superb which was much nicer, just not what we wanted at that time. All 5 of our dsg cars have been the wet clutch DQ250, it's so much better than the DQ 200. We've driven a few torque-converter cars recently, mostly the 8-speed ZF box & haven't felt the need to move away from the DSG's yet. I've had 4-speed T/Q trannys for some time, ('76 Chrysler Sunbeam, B/Warner 45, 2 Cavaliers, 2 Mondeo's & a bunch of American rental cars, they all worked, but 4-speeds aren't enough these days. The 6-speed DCT in the Mk 5 Mondeo isn't great, but it's another dry-clutch jobbie, it's been replaced with an 8-speed t/c transaxle. Driven that in a new Focus, still not for me! Horse & Courses.
Had a look at one of these in Norway as a replacement for my Rapid Notchback. I 'm keeping the Rapid, bigger boot, less Tech Crap and I am not a Fan of flat back hatchbacks like the Scala, Golf, Focus etc. The Norwegian Dealership in Alesund in the other hand were all over a RHD Rapid notchback. They never saw one before!?
I heard some time ago that the 1.5 EVO was problematic. And it was rather suspiciously dropped from the Seat Ibiza line up at the time. Pity, as the old 1.4 predecessor was a great engine.
What 1.4 are you talking about? From what I know the 1.4 Tsi engines from VAG are absolutely shite?
1.4 tsi 150 engine was a great engine, far better than the 1.5
How can octavia be better when the they share the same engine?
Ps looking to buy a 5 month one with 3k km for 19k eu.
Worth it with 1.5 tsi engine
Although there is a delay on the manual as well, it's a lot more predictable. On the dsg it seems to be a lot worse :( glad I went with the manual
@@georgealex19 yes I bought 1.5 manual.
Very happy with it.
Many are saying that the 'Budack cycle' has an issue for both the 1.0 TSi and 1.5 TSi in a cold start situation - the recent power reduction for the 1.0 TSi maybe a response to this.
The 1.5 tsi with the manual box is fine. So it must be the jerky dsg which is not suited to the smaller engine. Glad I watched this before paying my money !
I have a SEAT ibiza 1.5 tsi manual and yes the delay is annoying, solving the problem is to keep it above 2000 rpm... it gets annoying when doing start stop traffic or pulling from the lights... I hope to get it chiptuned and see if that solves the issue. Oh and I'm going to start doing the maintenance on it myself. Every 30.000 km/ 2 years service is a bad joke in my mind. I will also start looking on the timing chain issue they are know to have. In the end the engine is good, I get good economy out of it and I can get some nice sporty driving out of it but the drawback I hope can be solved with some more boost :D
Be interesting if a remap or tuning box would solve this or even turning off cylinder shut off
I asked someone who make remaping and he said they are working for solution . Turning off cylinder shut off , turning off particelfilter too :)
Bob have a seat ateca and have had issues with the apple CarPlay disconnecting intermittently, and using genuine apple cable as dealer said can have issues if not 😏
I've had multiple problems with both Apple and Android systems and this new system from Skoda/VW so you aren't alone
I bought an Octavia earlier this year, and deliberately went for the 1.0 tsi (113bhp) as even the dealer told me to avoid the 1.5
Wow, you made the right choice because the 1ltr is a great engine!
the 1.5 tsi its an engine with serious problems! choose 1.0!
Glad I bought a 2016 model 1.4 tsi Octavia instead of this problematic unit. The 1.4 is great. Powerful enough and excellent on fuel for a big petrol powered family car.
So, the whole car is ruined due to the lag in the gearbox only?
Haven't heard many other complaints tbh.
So maybe get a manual gearbox and the only flaw of the car dissapears?
It's a dsg thing. Some Mercs, with a 1.5/dsg, exhibit a similar trait. It's more a thing when cold. In compensation, you get 75 mpg on long runs and mid-50's urban.
jagman84 On a 1.5 petrol?! I’ll believe 75 when I see it. I struggle to get ~50 on my 1.5 and I drive like a chauffeur.
Got a VW Polo 1.0 115hp with DSG7....it has the same lag, when you floor the speeder. It´s so annoying, cause it makes it hard to predict if you can time it right, when getting out of a junction.
Have the tsi/dsg adjusted by TVS- engineering.
Has the problem been resolved yet ?
My Skoda Karoq 1.6TDi,6 spd manual gearbox,has a judder,feels like fuel starvation between 0.6mile-1.3miles,every morning.I agree,i think it's tied into the emissions.It's a £29k car with options and Skoda is no longer a low priced brand.My previous car was the Skoda Octavia 1.6TDi Estate and it was a brilliant car.The Karoq?I'm not so sure.
The amount of issues with the 1.5 are amazing. The owners forum is full of it! It’s not Bob the mad Irishman! Why they went from the 1.4 is something I don’t know.
I know this is an old video to comment on but I wonder why this car is troublesome when it's the same engine / DSG combo in the other cars you mentioned as being favourable. It sounds like it's more of a tuning thing to get the economy numbers down. I had the same issue with a Hyundai i30 1.6 turbo. No power when you accelerate, then a massive shove to push you back in the seat - a bit stressful diving into a roundabout and you can't predict what your car is going to do. The more I read about new cars, the more I want to stick with my naturally aspirated 2000 Mitsubishi.
That hesitation can be dangerous if you're in a roundabout or need to do a quick maneuver and you don't have the power you expected. I wouldn't touch this car unless they got on top of this.