Gen 9's Disappointing New Mythical.
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- Pecharunt is finally here in Pokemon Competitive Singles, and it's a little disappointing.
Despite a signature ability and move that seem excellent, crippling weaknesses and a strange Stat distribution will make life a bit difficult for this Pokemon in Gen 9 OU.
That's what I think anyway. I have very good and correct opinions about such things.
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The state of OU right now is crazy: "This Pokémon has an 100 base power STAB move that has a 50% chance to badly poison and confuse a Pokémon at the same time. It's not very good..."
Agreed. Having an amazing Def means nothing if it doesn't've a decent SpD as well, sadly, especially when it has meh HP comparatively.
@@GoinGreninja AV is good since you can spread status by just attacking but you lose recover and parting shot so idk
@@sovietspaceshipExactly. It has some niche, but said niche makes its survivability worse. That's why it doesn't feel like it'd ever be good in OU or even UU. Below that, it may've a shot though, which is silly to think about, especially because of the signature move and ability it has. Powercreep is gonna powercreep, it seems.
What having no coverage moves and odd balanced stats does to a Pokémon
@@AZV0108 I was suprised when i saw the stat spread too i was like damn is that a suboptimal distribution in a post gen 7 game? is gamefreak actually starting to test some of their stuff?
Powercreep is really insane this gen. The viability of a pokemon these days depends of the answer to "how does X handles kingambit /Gholdengo / Buffed Donphan"
I like how u said buffed do Phan not great tusk I was confused for the first time I read it....
@@harshjaria2136 if it makes you feel better, I read it as buffed dolphin and instantly thought of Palafin.
To be fair it's always been like this, the viability of all pokemon except the top threat is dependent on how they interact with the top threats. The only thing that has changed is that the power level of top threats has increased through generations.
That's not really unique to this gen, that's just how a meta works. Powercreep IS insane this gen, but that's not why the viability relies on other pokemon
@@sancheetb Ubers is like that, but OU generally isn't
As a VGC player my heartrate dropped when you parting shot the kingambit
Yeeeeah defiant gambit would be fine in singles if supreme overlord wasn't so broken
That's gold lol
Who in their right mind would Parting Shot a Kingambit!?
@@Connowot387 any singles player. That boy doesn't run defiant there
Defiant was standard on Bisharp from gens 5-8 at least, somehow they made an even better ability for Kingambit though
Missed opportunity to give the runt’s chain a corrosive effect, but it makes sense for the lousy trio’s leader to be a bit lousy also.
Definitely.
Sucks how only salazzle has that
@@69metersbelow25 Glimmora has it too. But not many use it compared to Toxic Debris.
After watching the lore video, it's hard to call it lousy.
The fraud trio lmao
@@69metersbelow25 in the main ladder sure. the less corrosion mons in randbats the better. though salazzle is in its own category
this may take the crown from tropius and other harvest leach seed mons as the worst mon to face in random battles.
Na, except if you don t have any poison/steel types
Shoutout to Salazzle. Nothing like realising nothing on your team is faster than it, so you essentially just auto-lose.
You don't exactly get to choose you mons or their typing. @@Nizazel
@@hailthequeenFM yeah I know
But harvest pokemons are harder to deel with (and with tera you will have more chance of having one)
shoutout to last mon Polteageist!
I feel like every bad matchup of Pecharunt is the phrase "this pokemon that relies entirely on poisonning to do anything cannot do anything to this good pokemon that is immune to poisonning" repeated over and over again
Steel-types everywhere
the design of it is just not very well-rounded compared to other mythicals, sadly. it DESPERATELY needs any kind of coverage but has literally nothing but stab moves and a couple of utility options that don't really help at all
Pecharunt reminds me of Avalugg; technically bulky, is easily crippled by one type, and counterplay is so abundant.
@@iantaakalla8180 I mean Avalugg's issue is less its type, and more the fact that it basically doesn't have a Special Defense stat. If you gave it like 40-ish more Sp. Def it would probably be fine.
@@satyrsatyr2957I dunno. Pecharunt looks quite round to me
One thing of note: mythic Pokemon tend to have a BST of 600 with 100 in each stat. Pecharunt basically took 12 points out of each stat to add them to def
88 are chains and 160 is just 80+80
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@@infinitydesuthats new.
Thanks, now i appreciate pecharunt even more.
I'm kind of relieved to see a new DLC Pokemon that isn't a new meta-breaking threat. Pecharunt's gimmick may be annoying but there are good steel types (and even some poison) that exist to ruin its day if it ever becomes a major threat.
Overall I like it. My impression of it so far is that it's an awkward pivot that would've been great in the Dondozo days but doesn't really keep up right now.
I can already see people running Pecharunt in UU just to discover that all the teams run a defiant bisharp with eviolite.
They do?
honestly these new amazing signature moves are doing more for hackmons players than the original pokemon
Pokemon in STABmons getting banned because they are unsurprisingly too strong when they can run busted signature moves meant for mid pokemon.
Imagine if this thing had body press
With what body lol
@@MaahirMomtaz12just think of it like a living iron ball
@@ebitachya steel ball perhaps?
@@umrayquazashinyapareceu1672a ghost Ball
While I think mr. Cool brings up some good points, I think he’s seriously underestimating Pecharunt’s insane ability to make others do the chicken dance against their will, which could surely shake up the ou metagame
So called free-thinkers when a tiny purple thing offers them free food:
The enemy can't play if they can't build a team, and they can't build a team if they're too busy chicken-dancing.
Its not Mr. Cool. Cool isnt his last name but actually his first name. Jimothy is his title.
0:40: Jim with the thousand-yard stare…….
Pecharunt is an all-new mythical pokemon, finally available to use in Gen 9.
And it might just be the most annoying new DLC Pokemon yet.
This thing's signature move and signature ability are downright nefarious.
however, this pokemon isnt without its shortcomings
And it may actually struggle to keep up with the high power level of Gen 9 OU.
No
This isn't insane.
I feel like its not meant to be a good mon. Mythicals are supposed to be unique, special and fun, as well as being big to the lore. It will be a solid RU mon but its jist a bit of fun. Much better than the usual 100 stat spread across the board
i get the attempt at novelty and variation but i agree with jim in which this thing is a coinflip machine and will make any metagame in which it is relevant less fun
What are you talking about? Almost every mythical has been good at some point lmao
@@kefkapalazzo1 any mon with 600bst will have been good at some point. It just so happened that it's not the main focus of them.
@@happydude142 Yes. And Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Darkrai, Victini, Volcanion and especially Marshadow had shaken up the competitive scene when they debuted. The only time they didn't is when they suck deeply, like Zarude and now Pecharunt. The newer Mythicals have no right to suck this much when previous ones were pretty decent when they were in their hayday and sometimes even beyond.
@@GoinGreninja dude most of those aren't even good nowadays lmao. They're better back then with less powercreep (and I'm not a huge fan of people blame everything on powercreep either). Mew is usually UU nowadays, Shaymin is like RU or in this gen PU (Skymin is shit in Ubers post gen 5), Victini is mostly a UU to UUBL mon, Phione is phione, Manaphy is solid. Besides Pecharunt is still cool and have a unique fighting style. Not all mythical needs to be OU or UU mons
I will never forgive gamefreak for not giving pecharunt body press
You want a ghost Pokemon to use body press?
@@aekaralagonisi At least it does something with it's defense stat
@@aekaralagonisi It would work with the high defence stat and some ghost pokemon already have body press like runerigus, houndstone and dhelmise
@@aekaralagonisi if griefford the ghostly dog can do it why not this floating fella with peach-shaped shields around him
Better he doesn't have it.
Cheap RNG based design, only fair he doesn't do anything against steel.
Just move into RU in a couple of months and no one is gonna miss you.
I mean, I wouldn't call it disappointing.
It's the only bulky ghost that has curse and recover, and it perfectly checks kingambit if it kingabmbit teras. That on it's own is not bad at all.
A grassy seed / leftovers with toxic - sub - curse hex / parting shot / protect combined with a rilaboom is... quite annoying.
so it's not that bad
Imo you’re kinda discrediting how good the peach can be, I reached 1800 with a grassy terrain team that actually lets it beat stuff like Lando and some tusk sets with ease, and it’s not like they want to come in on malignant chain, the fact that the move basically forces your opponent to either bring in their steel/poison type or face a coin flip to get toxic and confused is lovely cuz you can bring in your checks to them
yep, which is why it is severely underrated in my opinion. Being an awful annoyance against anything non steel or poison means that you are forcing them to switch in, which is an inherent value in on itself. You can also run a bulky curse - recover set to similar results.
Also peachrunt teraed into anything not weak to steel or dark is a perfect counter to kingambit to the point of making that mon useless, so you are also forcing kingambit not to tera, which is huge in managing that mon.
So yeah it is severely underrated
That’s what I made the minute Pecharunt dropped, built a Grassy terrain team with Ting Lu hazard stack and built a pretty decent team around the runt.
Imagine if Steel types kept their resistances to Dark and Ghost in this gen...
honestly i love this thing, its just fun, and that's all really
Pecharunt, a nightmare of a pokemon... for the wrong metagame.
You call it "unfun variants" I call it "let's gamble babyyy"
RNG Bad
-The forum that named itself after a Koffing
mfs already be gambling by guessing which set iron valiant is using
I think it's an OU-caliber Pokemon due to being a tanky physical wall that's insane at spreading toxic and can pivot out of bad matchups with Parting Shot.
...The issue is the current OU metagame has a LOT of things that threaten it that are on the majority of teams like Ghold and Kingambit. It's just got a poor case of bad matchups against the top OU threats. I imagine it'll end up in UU. Some people seem to think it's utter garbage that'll fall to the bottom tiers but I find that very doubtful.
If current OU has an easy time beating it then its not really a pn OU caliber Pokemon is it
If current OU has an easy time beating it then its not really a pn OU caliber Pokemon is it
If current OU has an easy time beating it then its not really a pn OU caliber Pokemon is it
If current OU has an easy time beating it then its not really a pn OU caliber Pokemon is it
If current OU has an easy time beating it then its not really a pn OU caliber Pokemon is it
i think the main thing thats holding back percharunt is how offensive the tier is so, each game is going to be fast and trying to get anything out of the confusion and toxic can be hard.
Two weeks later. “How Pecharunt was slept on”
Apparently in doubles it gets to do something truly foul and use Poison Gas to Poison+Confuse both enemies.
Pecharunt's issue is that it's a predictable, one-trick pony. Its ability only works if you poison the opponent. Which means you have to inflict poison/bad poison for it to be useful, which then takes away any other status you might want to inflict. And it has to be specifically from Pecharunt, so something like Toxic Spikes won't trigger the ability. Beyond that, it has 88 stats across the board (save Defense), so it's not exactly sweeper material.
I can't say it's bad so much as it's just the moment you see it, you know exactly what it's going to do. Bring in a Steel type.
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This thing is hilarious in doubles though thanks to poison gas and curse.
Even if you could Parting Shot the Kingambit, there's always a chance it could be Defiant.
not in ou
Hey, he got them fake Supreme Overlord!
This is a pecha-tastrophe
The worst part is: that was the first mythical that had a presentation that wasn't just "here, free mythical" in years. The fact that a hyped mythical was the weakest one we got is just sad.
Man, at this rate Pecharunt is going to NU. (JK, it can't be worse than *current* Mew)
i love running destiny bond on pecharunt to take out kingambit n great tusk
it rarely works but when it does its rlly funny
It works great in Doubles, as it can use Poison Gas, poisoning both enemies and confuse them.
Can the ‘runt learn Toxic Spikes? If he uses them do switches get poisoned and confused?
Asking the important questions!!!
It can't learn Toxic Spikes, according to Bulbapedia. Maybe it's intentional so that it's not insanely annoying to fight against.
Pecharunt+glimmora boutta go crazy on the stall tactics
@@gabrielalves303 until H.Samarott with its Water and Dark coverage shows up
Its ability doesn't activate when the opponent gets poisoned by Toxic Spikes.
Ngl its kind of the mug to let you upload content while holding you hostage
Let's take a look at how Pecharunt could be used in Gen 9 OU competetive singles, and whether it's any good or not.
Ghost/poison can be great defensively and it can be good but those stats aren't that good though that ability is kind of crazy
if it worked off any status, and used thunder wave then we would have a much more different problem
(Potentially) Hot take: Kingambit and Gholdengo should both be banned from OU, not for being overpowered, but for being over-centralizing. Almost every team has to have both a solid answer to them and have them yourself as a win condition, and even with good counters, they (especially Gambit) can often just decide to win anyway with hyperpowerful Sucker Punches and the such. Great Tusk is debatably in the same boat, but it tends to be a good but a bit less mandatory and without its two biggest targets in the picture, it’d probably drop to being a great but not dominating threat.
pecharunt is an all new mythical Pokemon that is finally available to use in gen 9.
Strikes me as a UUBL pokemon because every lower tier would prob just see this and go "HELL no"
Pecharunt's toxicity only makes way for the arrival of its future form, Iron Gamer with its signature move Toxic Gamer Moment which not only poisons and confuses, but inflicts the infatuated status because we all know the most attractive thing is being yelled at in a voice chat. Dark times lie ahead.
toxic gamer moment gets buffed the next gen so instead of infatuating it also burns
3:09 And then Kingambit turns out to have Defiant and you lose on the spot lol.
EASY ! 😂👏🏽
@@melvondrewhite2674 it's almost like supreme overlord is too good to pass up or something.
Ain’t no way iron Mugulis is in RU, how is Bisharp and Chesnaught meant to tank a 180 base spatk thunder bolt?
The 8 thing is a theme because 8 in Japan represents good luck, so it's supposed to be ironic since Pecharunt is part of the concept of a monkey's paw, it can grant wishes but also turn those it grants the wishes of into generally bad people. The Loyal Three are really mean Pokémon because of it and even if he wasn't fully controlled, Kieran was influenced by Pecharunt as well causing some of his angst in the DLC
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Breakfast for me
The newest UUBL threat he gon be crazy in Limbo
I think it would be a strech if it was classified on NU, imagine UUBL
I see a lot of comments blaming Pecharunt’s performance on “power creep” in SV as though SM or SS would be kinder to Pecharunt with even more powerful pokemon like ash greninja, melmetal, magearna, ferrothorn, kartana, rapid strike urshifu, etc. I’m putting that term on a high shelf until pokemon fans understand what it means.
Im still using Gengar everytime as my Ghost Poison
If they gave it t spikes and will-o-wisp it could had been SO much better
Bro’s getting the Zarude treatment
Poison is such a meta typing
frankly, a new pokemon that isn't immediately top tier is nice,but got is this thing annoying
If only it had Body Press to make use of that titanic defense....🛡
I wished for this lil guy to not be too broken, I got a lil guy who's not too broken. I don't know where is the disappointment coming from, I'm very satisfied.
It is interesting, though. Most poison types punish the opponent for switching with toxic spikes. Pecharunt punishes the opponent for staying in with confusion.
I really like Pecharunt, it's ability reflects its powers from the story and pokedex and its not too broken
Hex, chain, fighting tera and recover works
how i would make it better: of the bat, reduce its attack stat since it knows abysmal physical moves. making its stats: 98 hp, 28 atk, 160 def, 108 sp atk, 108 spdef, 98 speed. give it access to body press, make it able to hit steel types with poison moves as neutral or not very effective damage and able to poison steel types.
Thing is... Kingambit and Goldhengo should be banned 😃
Being Kingambit and Gholdengo’s little punching is an apt fate for that little shit. It led the Loyal Three and killed Ogerpon’s master and made her lonely for generations, AND it possessed your friends. Mine will never leave the PC box lmao
Mine doesn’t even have a name (even my Lousy Three have nicknames)
Curse can definitely mess with them tbh
Gholdengo saying I'm confused is comedic genius.
They actually made a weak Pokemon. Who would've thought
It would be better if it just had 100 in every stat
wonder if they would consider creating a mythical/legendary that has an ability to dump stats into one stat based on the circumstances, that or something akin to shedninja
this is a terrible pokemon
A finger on the Munkidori Paw curled when we asked Gen 9 to please stop releasing toxic, high-power offensive threats.
It released a toxic, low-power annoyance instead.
This is insane.
Pecharunt wasn't supposed to be that strong tbh. Not like the tier warping Flutter Mane and the reliability of Great Tusk/Gholdengo but just an annoying physical wall which it excels at. I find that when Malignant Chain lands a poison and confuses the enemy via its ability, they often just forfeit 😆
It gets countered by the top 5 most used mons
That makes me feel dirty, like:
I like the story of it, I like the trio and ogerpon, yet i feel wrong for liking pecharunt. I feel like, even if i were to catch one (in my country, the price of the switch, pokemon sv and the dlcs is just insane), i wouls box it immediatly bcs its not worth my time...BUT I DON'T BATTLE ON VGC!
Iron Mugulis is the greatest evil the world has ever faced.
gen 9 uu is pretty fun but gen 9 ou is gross
This mon’s design kinda sucks
I'm going to use it anyways
Pecharunt would benefit a lot more from an "Toxic Leech" ability, it would work that if the opposing Pokémon is poisoned or badly poisoned, Pecharunt recovers HP based on the enemies HP loss. Poison and Toxic would work like a Leech Seed, recovering its own HP on top of doing damage to the foe.
I know this sounds busted, but it's less rng than the actual ability and this is a Pokémon that needs an OP ability to carry it's ok stats and movepool, Pecharunt is just kinda lame by gen 9 power level
I actually quite like this idea. That way, it'd actually keep its annoying stratagems while being somewhat viable while it doesn't've to rely on luck.
Looks fine stop crying
Pecharunt might be good in stall teams because of poison puppeteer but that's just me-
Possibly, yeah. But those teams are losing their ground because of all the nerfs they got, especially in terms of recovery. That's why a lot of stall teams have defaulted to a defensive offense team instead this generation. But if it brings that kinda play style back, then it'd be both interesting and awful to see, that's for sure.
Terastalize has to go.
Parting Shot is good IF the Kinggambit isnt defiant, because if it is, Parting Shot will actually give it +3 attack (its counted as 2 different drops)
Who in their right mind runs defiant outside of VGC? Supreme overlord reverse sweep is right there!
@@Lh0000It depends on the meta. Supreme Overlord is objectively better right now because Defog is next to useless with gholdengo in the tier.
But if Gholdengo were to be banned, Defog, and thus defiant as an ability would also become better.
@@presidenttogekiss635 fair
While I agree Pecharunt is not good in the current meta, I completely disagree with you about them trying to introducing more variety of strategy. We NEED more strategies. Problem is they half arsed it with Pecharunt. Making Confusion useful is not the problem, problem is that they made Pecharunt useless in the process.
Current OU is one of the worst absolute meta we've ever seen due to existence of Kingambit which completely ruins the existence of 2 types (Psychic and Ghost). Not to mention the existence of horrible designs like Gholdengo. The meta is so monotonous and boring rn and incredible imbalanced. UU and below are significantly better balanced than OU. OU rn is just go gung ho with Kingambit, Great Tusk, Iron Valiant, Gouging Fire, Iron Boulder etc. ZERO thinking required. It actually annoys me how badly balanced it is. When the viability of something depends on "How will this Pokemon handle Kingambit/Gholdengo/Great Tusk/Iron Boulder etc." then you know you've fked up the meta.
88 speed is considered slow now
anything below 100 base is average at best, been this way since gen 3
I'm not sure how many people realized this, but Pecharunt has base 88 in every stat to keep in line with the other mythicals.
They all have base 100s across the board, sp if you take 12 away from 5 of those stats you leave those stats with 88, but you have 60 stats to play with which they gave to its defense. Ergo, base 88 in ever stat and base 160 defense.
Could've just said 600 BST
@@wumpoooo Well, but it's not just 600 BST. All the psuedos also have 600 BST. What sets the mythicals apart is that specific uniform base 100 across the board. And even though Pecharunt has a bit more variance, it keeps the spirit of the other mythicals by keeping all of its other stats uniform at base 88.
When talking about Pecharunt's Kingambit matchup, it's important to note that a Sucker Punch powered up by Supreme Overlord from Kingambit will only do about 88% to Pecharunt. Despite the type advantage, it doesn't OHKO. It's low base special attack is also pretty deceptive, it's just high enough to hit relevant damage thresholds. If you have tera, Pecharunt will on average beat most Kingambits with good play. That being said, it's definitely a rather difficult mon to use. But I think the potential is there.
2HKO isn’t much better, and if your best option is to sac something for Pecharunt to get very good damage on Kingambit the team is not an OU team or you have lost and you are playing out your loss.
If a new legendary is good everyone gets angry
If a new legendary is bad everyone gets angry
I can appreciate Pokemon that aren't OU level. I quite liked Okidogi and Munkidori actually. I just don't like the concept behind this mon
@@jimothycool Not referring to that, speaking of people in general . Not that I'd want another stall merchant pokemon either ofc
MOCHI Mugulis
Someone needs to record themselves doing the mochi dance with their Iron Mugulis so that the Poison Puppeteer RNG always goes in their favor.
Source: Just trust me, bro.
I think this thing ends up RU/NUBL. The only saving grace this thing has is defensive bulk with a recovery move. But its typing is not great defensively. If this thing were released a few gens ago (before recovery moves and confusion were nerfed) then this would have been more annoying than swagger foul play klefki.
I will not take the slander of the peach he's too silly to be hated
UUBL is calling
they really need to stop making pokemon without pupils. it ALWAYS looks like trash.
They should go back to making Pokemon look like dinosaurs, animals, bugs and fairies. 😢
Tbh its ability should have been "Poisoned pokemon on the field are also confused" so the confusion effect lasts forever.
Hey Jim, can we get a video about Archaludon? Since its release I've seen literally nothing about it, which is really weird
I feel like Pecharunt is one of the most situational pokemon in the new DLC.
It thrives against stall, who has no way of chipping away at it with toxic (and gets toxic/confused to hell from malignant chain) and their only answer is probably blissey, who has to switch out for natural cure anyways.
However, it also has good matchups into rillaboom and valiant, two staples on more balance/defensive teams. (I can't believe I'm saying that valiant is defensive now this meta is messed up)
But against general offense and most hazard-stack, it struggles to break through gholdengo, great tusk, and darkrai, who I've been seeing a lot. Especially kingambit, who is basically the definition of a hard counter.
Extremely offensive teams can beat it with iron boulder, roaring moon, raging bolt, and volcarona - although they might get poisoned, it usually trades for pecharunt which is pretty good.
tl;dr pecharunt is sometimes fantastic but most of the time does nothing when kingambit ghold and tusk are on like every team
this sig move is gonna go hard in balanced hackmons tho
The Onix of mythicals
For a gen being known for pokemon with crazy stats and powercreep all over the place, Pecharunt stats and movepool feel like they are stuck in gen 3 or something lmao.
In lower tiers, it would have to deal with Eviolite Bisharp. Same idea as Kingambit
I feel that it should have either been a poison and dark type, or should have at least learned body press or, the move that a lot of ghost types have, will o wisp. Its clear that this mon was meant to spread status by switching into physical attackers, but the physical attackers it is supposed to "check" aren't really hampered by it. Most physical attackers run EQ just bcuz of coverage, so instead of letting it die to EQ, it should be able to threaten physical attackers. Unfortunately its role isnt so good, so it will end up in RU most likely.
Hey, at least Flamigo has a good check down there
"Access to parting shot at least gives you something to click on incoming kingambit"
That one guy who runs defiant kingambit: nuh uh