How a Lapras Beat Gen 5’s #1 Player.
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- Pokemon Competitive Singles in Generation 5 is one of the most infamous formats in the games history. Defined by Permanent weather effects like Drizzle and Sand Stream, and extremely powerful Central Pokemon like Latios, Keldeo and Thundurus-Therian, the wild matchup swings and high power level turns many away.
However, this format firmly stands out from every single other OU in the franchise with interesting weather abusers, particularly on Rain teams, occasionally finding themselves used at high level play.
Lapras is not a Pokemon many would consider fantastic competitively, but it just made history in this infamously tough metagame. Thanks to its ability Hydration, a Lapras, piloted by the skilled player Rewer, pulled off a monumental sweep against perhaps Gen 5's strongest player, Soulwind.
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Keldeo uses SECRET SWORD not Sacred Sword you absolute Buffoons.
SECRET SWORD does not ignore Defensive boosts. Comment about it once more I dare you.
Seems like a pretty well-kept secret...
This only gets more insane when you consider that every single mon on Soulwind’s team save perhaps for Politoed had a means to hit Lapras super effectively. I can only conclude that he took the mon too lightly, he probably should have gone into Keldoe immediately rather than staying in with Ferrothorn
Or immediately go for power whips
true. He definitely underestimated lapras. I understand though, very unexpected
Nah, after he lost thundurus lapras pretty much cooked his team, sooner or later he was provably getting massively damaged by it
Just because it gets hit super effectively it doesnt mean it wins 1v1
Did James Cool not realize Rewer was running mono Water?
You're right about that.
Nothing gets past this guy
I did and I couldn’t believe it
Lapras is one of those Pokémon that no one dislikes, right? Are there people who actually hate Lapras?
I hope not.
Lapras is cool.
Hating Lapras should be illegal
Elite redux players facing Mega Lapras X
I think some people dislike gmax laparas, that that has to do with a balancing issue more then anything
I always thought rain in gen5 was absolutely overpowered and this replay does reinforce this feeling xD
Rain is very good but I think most players view Sand as the best weather
I main Gen 5 and I also think well built Sand teams are the most consistent to pilot and they handle Rain very very well
@@jimothycoolwhat does sand have besides the hippo and ttar? I thought exadrill was banned
@@eeveewithcoffee9554 Sand doesn't benefit that much from direct synergy but Chipping enemy rain Pokemon is really valuable.
Pokemon like Alakazam, Reuniclus, and Gliscor are very strong on Sand teams
@@jimothycool oh so it’s just used as passive damage like spikes or rocks. For like stall teams or hyper offensive teams
Props to Rewer for getting every prediction of when to use Rest correct.
When you begin playing anything with Rest yourself, or have played against it a lot, you become more adept at it.
Also worth mentioning that this match was during the final week of SPL before the playoffs. Rewer's team had no chance of making playoffs so he probably just decided to fuck around and have fun for his final match, bringing mono-water.
Lapras was actually a recommended offbeat Pokemon as an option for gen 5 rain teams on smogon way back when. It wasn’t ranked in OU and had no strategy guide for it, but I remember the smogon guide to weather teams mentioning DD and Hydration. It’s the main reason why I bred one in that gen
Nice video! I'm happy this fun team won the way it did, though it is worth noting though that it's a very old team and I didn't actually build this myself, and that I had nothing to lose in this game because my team was already out, hence why I'm using it.
Thanks for the extra context. The insane bring makes more sense considering that. Congrats on the win anyway 😄
It's Lapras' Latest Likable Lambasting of Lower Lifeforms, everyone
OMG it’s god, hello god
Nah, I don't think any metagame is ever going to be solved. Just look at Generation I OU, it's STILL finding developments to this day.
As a general rule, in a game with incomplete information and a large selection of option, it is almost impossible to solve unless this is something really specific (like Stadium Rental metagame or 10U).
@@MyHandleIsAplaceholder there still is some variation between teams. The exact sets aren't always the same.
Even when solved, mons will rotate through the meta
The evolution of gen 1 is "you know those 15 viable pokes, yeah now it's 14, (bye golem) now it's 13 (bye victreebel) now it's 12 (bye Jolteon)"
At this rate we'll start looking at teams by the mon's the don't include rather than the ones they do.
@ussgordoncaptain gen 1 ou's uncut viability rankings have over 80 Pokémon. A mon not qualifying for OU doesn't make it bad, it just means it's less consistent than those that do. Don't make assumptions about a tier you don't play.
I love that Rewer had Lanturn on his team, as it's my favorite Pokemon, yet I'm well aware how outclassed it is in the powercrept OUs of Gen 5 onwards (especially with Rotom-W around). And while it might not have had any field time in the battle, it did seem like its presence mind-gamed Soulwind into going for Nasty Plot on Thundurus, which allowed Rewer to go for the 2HKO with the Sash Empoleon, so I'd say Lanturn contributed to that win.
"Lanturn Wins by Doing Absolutely Nothing"
I hope Lapras obtains the hidden technique "snatch" for it's future endeavors as a sleeper pick in future generations
Plz cover more gen 5. You've taught me all I know about gen 3, but there's only so much left that can easily be covered, especially after the iceberg
Lapras gaming?!?!?
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Wow, Lapras just ate up that thunder no sweat. That is a _very_ specially bulky set... which makes sense, to be fair
Lapras is an iconic and a beloved Pokemon.
A favorite of many
A favorite of many that is commonly used in main game playthroughs
But on a competitive side of things, Lapras is not particularly fantastic
The peak of it's power and relevance was in generation 1
where it is actually quite good as a bulky water type support
Lapras is an iconic and beloved Pokémon.
not only using lapras but using mono water is funny as hell
Ahh Lapras. With 130 HP and hydration it can take hits and rest with impunity. Once you stack a few curses on top of that it’s pretty much GG
Bro srsly beat one of the greatest players with a god damn water monotype team
I don’t think anyone would’ve been able to handle what that Lanturn was capable of.
I literally quit competitive because of Stealth Rock and spikes to a lesser extent. Seeing someone lose because they were so hyper focused on getting them out at any cost made me happy.
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Lapras is rather neat, and I am interested in its future
not the mono water team 😭
Folks, it would seem that this is of dubious sanity.
I loved using this Lapras set back in gen V. I didn’t make nearly as good of use of it, but it was a powerful win condition.
Thats why i love perma weather so much it can allow some creativity
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Lapras is adorable.
Seeing Lapras free heal was so lit with a curse set. Nice
1:10 Great music choice, I'm actually playing through that game again right now
I do wonder why soulwind didn't just pick power whip immediately against lapras. None of the remaining mon were particularly threatening to standard ferrothorn, so the stealth rocks weren't doing much. Even assuming he didn't know what lapras would do, I find it hard not to click power whip there... but I'm not the best player in gen 5 ou so my opinion is of very little matter.
Curse and Rest probably would've 1v1'd a Power Whipping Ferrothorn. I think he had to go immediately to Starmie and click Thunder. Probably also should've saved health on Politoed so it could Encore without getting sniped by Ice Shard
I guess he saw Lapras as not threatening at first. He likely saw it as a Water Absorber, hence why he decided to set rocks on it before going to attack. He didn't see Curse coming. Why he didn't Power Whip during the spikes turn though, thats on him for blundering
@@jimothycool I think based on my calcs, it definitely would have 1v1d the ferrothorn (It looks like the lapras was max hp no defense based on the power whip damage), but at the very least it would give the info on lapras' set, as he would see the curse, the lapras would be forced to rest, and then he could switch to the starmie or politoed depending on how he best sees fit to handle the situation.
lapras pulling a sweep off is the most satisficing thing i seen in gen 5
Lapras is having such a glow up. No longer endangered AND tearing it up in bw OU? Keep on slaying queen
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Ooh, this was lovely. Love it when fun silly stuff gets a win.
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Oh shit. It’s a soul wind video. My favorite person to run into in let’s go!!! Miss him
Most the hydration Lapras I used to see playing Gen 5 OU where Dragon Dance + Rest sets. I think Gen 5 OU is the best OU simply because of the amount of Pokemon that can work in OU. I have seen Parasect, Charizard, Jolteon work.
Rewer’s Water monotype is pretty dope ngl
His team is amazing. Empoleon and Politoed are some of my fav mons, with Lapras and Lanturn coming close... amazing team.
0:11 You say here that Lapras' peak of power and relevance was gen 1, but it was used a fair amount in Gen 8 VGC as Gigantamax Lapras for it's move G-Max Resonance being able to set up Aurora Veil without hail.
Enjoyable video for the rest!
The guy brought a whole fucking mono water team
Unpopular opinion: I think chlorophyll+drought was fair, it was the only way to sun compete fairly against rain and sand (drizzle and swift swim were already banned and excadrill was uber).
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Are you stupid?
getting reminded of the Bo1 format a bunch of smogon tournies run and dying a little inside
Lapras my beloved
I’d like to see some more Gen 5 OU content :) I pretty much only play 3 and 4 so it’d be fun to see more of 5 and perhaps even play it myself
Glad to see Lapras winning against Ferrothorn's homophobia, with his boyfriend, Politoed. Truly, love wins over all. Ferrothorn was seething as his homophobic squad got swept after getting violated by Lapras invalidating his every move.
Gen 5 OU is my favourite generation of all time. Experimenting in this tier is so unbelievably fun. Credits to Rewer for bringing that heat
BoltBeam was an important offensive combination back then (perhaps as few offensive combinations existed until ORaS which really revolutionized competitive play in all formats) and guess what, Lapras got it! Was surprised to see physical Lapras instead.
Hell yeah! Gimme more gen 5 too 😊
I like Lapras in gen 3 as a Suicune counter. 4x resist on ice and immunity to water means you can always tank it even at max boosts and get off a roar or perish song.
He Did it Again! Lapras in the Thumbnail doesn’t have a Horn, just like the last video’s Samurott!
It looks like rewer just wanted to force the ferro out, given it appears curse Lapras beats power whip ferro 1v1 and it’s not like he had any other options on his team to deal with it. But soulwind just didn’t know and started vomiting hazards, and now suddenly Lapras is the win condition.
Losing thundurus to a failed prediction is whatever, it happens, but leaving Ferro in was definitely where it all just fell apart.
Brings mono water to SPL, wins.
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Ice type has actually gotten better over the years...
Lapras was quite good in the SwSh meta with Max Renaissance and was great with that extra health pool. If the hail buff got here earlier i think Lapras would have been even better😄
Between this and the Articuno that won a Gen 9 Tournament, people are really looking at Ice-Types and deciding to make them work.
Don't let that insane lapras gameplay distract you from the fact that Old Money is on the move again.
Generation 5 OU is a competitive metagame infamous for its significant power creep and volatility.
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Rewer winning against the best pokemon player of all time with six water types:
Moral of the story: run Leech Seed on Ferrothorn
We are Lapras Gaming ™️ folks.
Curse you Old Money!!
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thats why leech seed is so good on ferrothorn
intersting movesets for #1 player
Lapras was my first tcg deck in sun and moon and Sword And shield. In the vgc I saw dragon dance ice shard topped
Lapras' Legendary Victory Lap
This is so cool
I once played soulwind in a LGPE tournament. I took a game off of him and was 1 Pokémon away from beating him in game 3. Fun times.
Gen 5 gets a lot of hate because of the weather wars, but I still had a ton of fun with the meta because there were so many weird off-meta pokemon you could run because of the absurdety of perma weather.
These days, if you run weather, you're kind of pigeon-holed into running hyper offense, because your weather is on a timer, but you used to could sit around in this gen and use the more passive playstyles.
I remember I used to have a fun Sun Stall team back in the day that I had a lot of success with, but definitely wouldn't work with the new weather changes.
Lapras was an iconic and loved pokemon
First Articuno, now Lapras. Does this mean Dewgon will pop up sometime this year?
I feel like the competitive scene can only be "solved" in the early gens where you have less options. Probably with gen 4 and onwards, all it will take is finding that one niche Pokémon or a specific type of team (like psychic spam) to break and reshape the meta. Then sometime in the future something new will pop up that counters the new, old, meta. Then the cycle continues
Wait does sacred sword not ignore stat changes to defense? I thought it ignored defense and evasion boosts.
Was going to comment same.. could 2HKO?
But Keldeo uses Secret Sword and is like Psyshock but Fight
Rare Lapras W
I really love people playing Gen 5 OU
what a buckwild replay. truly unruly
YESSS!!! LAPRAS! That's my girl! Genuinely my favorite pokemon of all time : )
I actually disagree about Lapras' peak, I think Lapras was best in the early days of Gen 8 VGC, when Gigantamax Lapras was used time and time again on winning teams for the Aurora Veil max move.
That being said, Gen 1 OU is a harsh environment, so really it's a wash on if you consider being great in VGC is on equal footing with being good in Gen 1 OU.
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I use one on my hail team in gen 9 nat dex. It ate a booster energy cc from tusk. I was so impressed
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Essentially "lost" turn one, but could have brought it back if he saved health on poli
Haze is really underrated
This is insane
A Lapras Beat Gen 5's #1 Player before Gholdengo and Kingambit got banned from Gen 9 OU. This is Insane Folks.
Wtf you stole lapras’ horn
Wow that was such a fumble ngl
Can't wait for bkc video on this
Great vid cheers &ty
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Shell Smash Lapras?