Story 3 in alternate timeline "Hey you can't install camera, it's invading people's privacy" "Okay " "Hey, someone robbed us, can we see the camera?" "I removed it, you told me it's invaded people's privacy" Pikachu face activated.
@sparkplug1018 Maybe, but every house that sells in an hoa is a potential for a dictator to move in. Then you're good hoa turns into a bad hoa real fast. Best to just not live in one if you cam help it
Story Three: Unless the HOA is also willing to cover any losses caused by theft & the price of a 24/7 body guard to protect OP against any home invaders, a certain level of incidental coverage of neighbors yards is a reasonable expectation for security. I wonder how the HOA would react to property values for the development plummeting when it gets around that they won't let you have reasonable home protection equipment installed & thus is a playground for burglars?
On that, if the area can be seen from a public view, it would be nondifferent that a person filming from the sidewalk or street, so there is no legal basis. The Karen wants to be a crotchety C U Next Tuesday because she feels she has a god complex
Having camera is not a creepy move... unless you on purpose point it to a window or the neighbor pool. More, he had the option and used it to gray out some area to exactly not invade privacy. In my mind, it's ok that HOA ask question. But, the first question should has been : Can you give me a written that your neighbor are sastify with your isntallation? And it would have been a close case. I'm not very familiar with HOA, but it doesn't normally work base on complaint? They put rules and will "investigate/look for issue" only when reported? I know cities work like this normally because in general it's a lot more costly to look for issue (cause you'll find a lot a small issues "by the book" that nobody care and no real issue). It has been a couple of story where I feel a member of the HOA is an unemployed person looking for entertainment, set their mind on "it's wrong" and can't hear any argument.
@@nicolasjoly6948 I think you missed that the HOA karen in question actually _was_ one of the affected neighbors. She was complaining that the camera was pointed in a direction where it could view her yard, and when they didn't take it down, then she got the whole HOA involved. And invasion of privacy is a legitimate concern in some situations. It doesn't really matter _why_ you put the camera up, if it has the ability to record other people's private areas and they don't want that, they arguably have a right to not be filmed in their own back yard by someone else without their permission. However, that's why most of these sorts of cameras actually have functions to block out and not record parts of the frame (like these did), for exactly that reason. If the camera is configured not to record that area, then there is absolutely no difference (practically, legally, or ethically) between that and a camera which is pointed such that it doesn't have the neighbor's property in view. (Of course, the karen and the HOA already knew this, which is why they tried to treat it as an HOA violation instead of a civil/criminal complaint, because they knew from a legal standpoint they had nothing to stand on.)
*Third Story:* OP is not the a-hole. The cameras were positioned to overlook his driveway. He even explained the parts of the neighbor's backyard was grayed out on the recordings. Neighbor should invest in a fence if they're so butthurt about it. OP could be a good neighbor and give them some ass cream, though.
Maybe not the A-hole but in some countries still in the wrong. Germany for example doesn't allow graying out via software. You have to actually use covers on the camera to make sure it can't record public ground or that of another person.
You're correct, but 90% of these stories occur because idiots decide that what they want is the only thing that matters, no matter what logic or physics laws get in the way.
@@MegaKBang you didn’t watch the video or you wouldn’t have made such a stupid response. Or maybe you have comprehension issues. Idiots are calling him a creepy ahole for putting cameras on his property.
Story 4: word of advice if a truck driver tells you a truck is not going somewhere, then the truck very likely shouldn’t go there. The driver might be over cautious, or the driver knows for sure the truck can’t go somewhere. The last truck went there is a phrase that may cost you a lot of money. Your pushing the driver could cost you $100000+
As a driver when I'm told the last guy got in there I always answer with "I'm not the last driver" and explain why my truck isn't going there. If that fails a call to my dispatcher usually takes care of things. He just explains that I've been with the company 27 yrs and has over 30 yrs experience total and if I say it's not doable, it's not doable.
Well first of all I absolutely love the Labyrinth reference (bog of Eternal stench hahaha) but other than that I unfortunately did not understand 3/4 of this story LOL
"But a sternly worded response indicating that we were prepared to fight them actually worked this time." I wonder if it said something like "You wanna waste another $4000 throwing a temper tantrum? Go right ahead!"
Concerning OP and his HOA problem about his cameras, definitely NOT an a**hole! Not only OP is protecting his house but also his neighbors benefit about his surveillance. Karen is acting like a ‘Karen’ and should be appreciative instead of that ‘neighborhood watch’.
I'd love a camera other than my trail cams and wish all the neighbors had them. We get some interesting critters here lol Its a 4 way stop town of less then 40 homes. Deer walk right through town 😅
I'm about to get a doorbell camera fitted and checked if my neighbour minded as it would cover some of his garden including his path, he was really happy as it's security for him as well. This is in the UK so we are supposed to check if it will cover any of the neighbours property and if they say no you have to alter the cameras range.
My family has a doorbell cam and while it’s mainly to look out for packages (my dad LOVES Amazon) my parents also use it to protect us. Mind you this camera has a very wide range. It overlooks everything from the 3 neighbors properties who live across from us, to our entire porch (minus maybe 1-3 feet of the porch). Also keep in mind that the people who live directly across from us are part of the HOA, the president/head of the hoa. Thankfully he couldn’t give a rats ass what we do with our property and his main concern is upkeep of the ponds and parks in the neighborhood… oh and scheduling food trucks to come in once or twice a week from mid spring to mid fall.
At an old job, the trash compactor was on an automatic timer. People (non-employees sneaking on site to steal from trash) did lose their arms all the time
Mr. Cheat teacher story: Reminds me of a science teacher in high school. I only had him for work study, not an actual class. His idea of teaching a class was to show a short documentary type film on a subject, occasionally stop it to tell a story/joke and while the film was playing write notes on the blackboard. After the film he would have a pop quiz on the film. ALL THE ANSWERS WERE WRITTEN ON THE BLACKBOARD, though not in any particular order and no extra answers not on the quiz. The amazing thing was that the quizzes were graded immediately afterwards. I don't remember a single student ever getting better than 80-90% on the quizzes and there were always a few that didn't even get 50%! Yeah, he was let go the following year, but that's a story all of its own.
My HOA is the unicorn of HOAs. I've been here for nearly 7 years and not once have I had any issues with them. They pretty much leave everybody alone. It's a little on the expensive side, but definitely worth it. They take care of the common areas which includes mowing everybody's lawn once a week, Take care of roofing, and in general just keep everything nice and tidy. My community is all one story attached homes and very quiet. I didn't even know that I would be happy with an HOA until I moved here!
I, too, live in such a neighborhood and HOA. The board members have been just lovely, and subsequently, everyone in the neighborhood are quiet, discrete, and Don put up any decorations that are too outlandish.
Yelling at people may seem like a mean thing to do but it's the only way to get the message to stick in a person's brain. As long as the person yelling doesn't make it personal and not to carry it on it's fine.
Story 3: If a neighbor is complaining this hard over cameras that aren't even recording them, that usually gives the implication that the neighbor is one of those "I snoop around" neighbors and is mad that the homeowner is not letting them.
If HOA doesn’t want cameras in a home raises many flags. It’s possible that some of those members of the board could be embezzling money from the owners of false fines or extreme cases possible theft
Objections to security cameras scream "I don't want to be caught doing things on camera". It's such a common and understandable thing these days for people to have, objecting to it smacks of guilt.
I remember hearing a story about an owner that ignored safety regulations while still expecting his employees to follow them. No one called him out because he was the owner. Then they hired someone who didn't know who he was and he called out the owner. People tried to stop him, but he wouldn't back down. I don't recall now what all happened, but I think the owner realized what he was doing and changed.
Story 4: There are steel mats you can rent similar to ones they made airstrips out of in the pacific campaign in ww2 called “marston mats” that keep you from sinking in sand. Several construction sites I’ve been on have used them to make roads so construction vehicles wouldn’t get stuck. The cost was pretty cheap compared to the cost of labor. There are similar solutions that are even cheaper but don’t last as long. Pauly obviously didn’t have any experience with sand or clay or he would have already had something in place.
My late husband worked as the lead engineer at a refinery for several years. I think they put something like that down if they had to go in areas where it was possible to crush underground pipes with the equipment. I've also seen them use them along the side of the road in various work areas.
As someone whose prior job, and current job, involves tossing trash into a compactor, you don't mess with those - wood, metal, and solid plastic can be crushed, snapped, and broken very easily by them. I remember once, my security badge got caught by some garbage, and flew into the compactor as I threw it in. Luckily, my supervisor (head of maintenance), was able to get it, as I realized what had happened, and got him before I did anything else. Of course, if he hadn't been able to get it, I'd of gotten a new badge - easier to replace than a person.
1st story: firing him also save the company from future litigation about being hurt by his own action but the company not enforcing the rules.... they may not lose in court, but they would still lose time a money to fight this...
HOA used a most vague and insufficient rule: "don't be a nuisance." Victim should have filed nuisance complaints against HOA member neighbor as retaliation. And kept on filing to overwhelm the board meeting agenda.
7:19 i admit, one of my teachers did something similar too, but only basicaly with "Look at it again and think about it", wich helped a lot. I was to fast in my final examin and made mistakes. Needles to say i was class best at that in the end thanks to him. This is how its done right , more of a "you know the answer, think about it again" than a "the answer is that and that".
Last story: as an LTL driver myself, my favorite lines are “you can’t miss it” and “we have trucks up here all the time”. Inevitably I show up, looking hopelessly up their narrow, winding gravel driveway and hear from the customer “oh I thought you were in a little UPS truck”. No Gramps, this is a semi truck with a 28 foot trailer and I’m not taking it up that driveway because i know im getting stuck
At first I was like "wow, it's so not okay to have a camera that's range includes someone elses garden!" But then OP explained about that graying out thing, and that makes it okay. So I wouldn't like to have a camera pointed at my property, but if it doesn't even film it, there's no reason to be against it. No privacy invaded or anything, all good.
Personally as long as I'm doing nothing that's not appropriate on the outside of my home, for me that security camera is providing me with some protection, and if I had a neighbor with one that had grayed out my area, I'd hand as bit to not gray out what is covered of where I live. It might not be much living on the fixed income if a retiree. However I'm grateful that I don't live in a gated community or and H.O.A. or even to one.
@@vernonharden Yeah idk, sunbathing for example is appropriate, and I wouldn't want to be filmed by a neighbour. So greying out would be necessary. If I needed security I could just install cameras myself. I don't want to be filmed in my sloppy gardening outfits or a bikini or just while doing personal, maybe even embarrassing stuff. But if you don't sunbathe or anything it might actually be a nice way to get free security, you're right😂😉
I looked up "Salton Sea" in the internet, and it said nothing about any businessman, any Canadian construction firm, nor any illegal digging. In fact, the digging was commissioned by Californian governor, and it served what it meant to be, as irrigation reserve, until recently when the lake is drying up and the water become too salty because of evaporation. Contrary to what OP suggest, any Colorado river flooding is good thing for the lake, because additional fresh water will keep down the saltiness of the lake.
The first story reminded me of my time working as a Maintenance Safety Committee member in a hog/pig slaughter plant. My job was not only doing maintenance work but also instructing maintenance on the safety protocols for everything on the kill floor and the cold processing floor. I would write up anyone that violated safety procedures including Supervisors and Managers. I had a visiting production supervisor that demanded I call my supervisor because I threatened to write him up on a safety violation if he did what he told me he was going to do to get a piece of equipment running. I called for my supervisor (Al) over the radio and explained what was going on when Al got there. Al looked at this nut job and asked if I was correct. Mr. Nutjob said yes and then told Al that there was "No way a lowly maintenance worker would dare write up a Yellow Hat." (In this plant production wore White hard hats, Maintenance Grey, Safety Red, Supervisors Yellow, and Managers Green) As Mr. Nutjob went to reach into the unlocked machine, I grabbed his hand and told him to leave the floor and await the Plant Manager. Al escorted him off the floor and I wrote up the report and walked it straight to the Plant Manager's office and an immediate safety hearing was called for which included me, the Plant Manager, Al, the Maintenance Shift Manager, Production Manager, and two other Safety Committee members. Within half an hour of that meeting, Mr. Nutjob was being escorted out of the plant by security. Yes, that plant took safety that seriously, and last I had heard Mr. Nutjob had been fired when he returned to the plant he actually worked at.
Story 3: Since the line item was "Title Searches" and we all know that was a lie...what else are they lying about? I would demand forensic accounting of the books.
Why would the HOA care about security cameras that black out the property that is not theirs? If an HOA is objecting to that I would suspect the HOA of trespassing.
Story 3: Why would anyone consider OP to be the a..hole when the camera is blocked from filming the neighbor's property (including not reacting to movements over there)..? Also thanks once more for the reminder to be really glad HOAs don't exist in my country since most things they do would literally be illegal here..
@@wmdkitty You can't really reposition without having some edges of the neighbors space. Unless you want film only half of own drive way but that kinda defeats the purpose
@@wmdkitty repositioning cameras isnt that easy mate. The camera wasnt recording her yard if it was she had a point to complain but it wasnt. OP didnt even have to tell her so there is that.
OP in the neighbor camera story he was honest and told the neighbor exactly what was going on and showed how they worked. So there shouldn't have been any qualms about this whole situation. Op could have just had the cameras rolling and never told her but no he didn't. The woman was just offended that she had somebody watching her place at all and decided to make it personal.
@@wmdkitty depends on the angle. If OP had to install camera at an odd angle, moving it enough to not clip Karen's yard could have put some of their property out of focus or frame. There is also no legal obligation anywhere in the US as far as I can tell to make it physically impossible for your cameras to see a neighbor's yard. Taking the neighbor's yard out of motion-recording zones is good enough for most, even more restrictive jurisdictions. Reason being is that if you're in a yard visible by a neighbor or public sidewalk, there is no expectation of privacy. It's understandable for Karen to have a problem with it if they were pointed at her windows or something like that. But I think in this situation she was just mad for the sake of being mad, or was planning to do something shady or criminal on OP's property.
I once had neighbors who showed disapproval of me having cameras by pulling in my driveway a bit and flipping them off nearly every time they went by. One of them later got arrested for trying, and failing, to break into my neighbor's house on the opposite side.
@@techguydilan My aunt says she has this neighbor who does meth in likes to stare at her house across the street. I beg her to get cameras because she's always saying that he's going to come over and try and kill him and she's just like I'm just going to kill me.
@@richewilson6394 If you can afford it getting her cameras might be a good gift idea if you don't have any other ideas. Even if it's one of the cheap wireless ones with their own tablets and MicroSD card. Methheads usually don't have the means to rig a device to deauth them. But the wired Night Owl ones from Walmart are better IMO if you can figure out how to install them for her.
Our former neighbor installed 8 cameras on the duplex we shared. Each camera had a sign informing us we were being watched. I had to call the police just to document the situation. The field report was forwarded to the landlord and the neighbors are gone.
Story 3: no. OP is absolutely not the ahole or the Karen. The neighbors area is greyed out. The neighbor needs to GROW UP! Why such a fuss? I'd be glad to have my yard protected personally. What is the neighbor trying to hide maybe hmmm?
HOA position: no. Sorry. Hoa is in the wrong. They should not be allowed to tell you what to do to protect your own home. They were stretching and would have lost in the courts.
I've been working in IT for 10 years and still get told by clients that they'll take the advice of their 7 year old "computer genius" nephew over my advice. Some people just like to go by feel-good advice instead of sound advice from a seasoned pro. In the case of the story 4 on the video, the truck being able to go through the sand and avoiding hard work sounded better to them than the experienced driver knowing the limits of the truck without having to test them every time.
@@techguydilan It’s aggravating. I spent 10 years as a service coordinator. I had 12 techs I scheduled. I knew our equipment inside & out & even took the training classes & certification so I’d know what my techs were doing but still had customers say “Well Darlin let me tell you what you need to do”. Or refuse the repairs because they didn’t want the costs. Unfortunately for them in most cases I had local/state/federal regulations on my side & most of the local fire marshals on speed dial. 😂. But I get your side too. My Hubby did IT, programming/engineering for many years & the ID10T problems came up daily.
Third story: The karen had no business. It wasn't his neighbor complaining it was the HOA complaining. His next door neighbor even said "that's fine" but HOA karen for some odd suspicious reason didn't like it. Maybe the HOA has been trespassing on peoples lawns while they are away
A crime occurs, and the suspects are seen clear as day going through Karen's backyard. She points out OP having cameras looking at her yard that could help to better identify them. OP: But Karen, you and the HOA told me to take my cameras down because they invaded your privacy. Karen: **surprised Pikachu face** And that's why OP is NOT the Karen; HOA or no, homeowners are entitled to their peace of mind. And, it may help their neighbors too. Remember that, everyone. Also, giant THANK YOU for the Labyrinth reference!
In the story involving the HOA, I can;t imagine that anyone thought OP was the a-hole in that situation. Definitely not! The Karen and the rest of the HOA most certainly were. I have yet to hear of an HOA that wasn't predominantly a-holes. If I were looking for a home, the first question I would ask is if there was an HOA, and if there was, it'd be a deal-breaker on the spot. I don't need the drama or the grief.
Story 4. Years ago my brother drove a heavy wrecker. From memory it cost $1,200 to get it out the gate. Then xx $ Per distance and time. You would be lucky if your bill was under $4.000. Remember this was over 20 years ago. Out side normal hours overtime rates applied.
That first story, they should just post signs around the compactors: "For climbing into a compactor with power connected, first offense will result in a verbal warning, second in a write-up, third time, we just press the 'Start' button."
Nah. Immediate termination. If someone is dumb enough to climb into a compactor without doing a lockout/tagout disruption of the power source, then they have no business working for the company, because what other common sense f*ckups are they going to do when they're there.
The compactor has a sign on it that says not to climb in it unless it is disconnected from a power source. It is pounded into any and every employee's head to not to climb into the thing, and that If you are caught climbing into it you would be fired on the spot no if ands or buts. Most places require you to sign an acknowledgement that you understand the safety procedures and that ignoring those rule can lead to immediate termination. In fact having signs saying what you suggest could get OSHA and other safety inspectors breathing down the necks of the business that had them up. It is an immediate fine if certain things are done during one of those inspections and it would be a HUGE violation for a person to be found climbing in the compactor while it was still functional. Heck I remember one place that I worked at had a lock on it and a manager on standby if anyone needed to use it whenever an inspector came just to be super safe.
Story 1: Common Sense died a long time ago. It should go without saying that climbing into a compactor is a deadly idea. Story 2: Good. It'd be unfair to students who actually knew the answers to have those who didn't know also get 100% by cheating.
If OP in story 3 is the a-hole, what about my neighbor that has a camera looking over my entire front yard and front door? The side of his lot butts against my front yard and he has maybe 3 feet of space from the wall of his house to the property line. He installed motion cameras and lights (lights are now disabled because they would literally turn on if I opened my front door after dark) on that side of the house.....that looks 90% over my property. And there is a stone wall that was put in around the tiny amount of property that camera is covering. My family and I have had issues with this dude from almost day 1. Our first meeting with this a-hole was him beating on our front door, at 10 pm at night, demanding the car on the street be moved because it was too close to his. When his was parked in such way that parking behind it would block around 1/4th of our driveway due to them being a-holes. Karma came for his ass though because the last really big wind storm that hit, tore a pretty big branch off the tree that he parks his car in front of and it landed on his windshield.
Last story: I'm sorry, did I hear that correctly? A *27:1* gearing??? Good gods. Sure, you'll need to worry about hitting an immovable object, but what would actually count as "immovable" against that? A mountain?
Any time anyone says, _"Please sign here,"_ or _"Can you put that in writing,"_ or _"... in an email,"_ or words to that effect, better take a close look at any possible consequences, because you've probably just opened yourself up to a problem.
He is well within his rights to put a camera up over his own property. If he was acting like a “Karen“ he wouldn’t have gone to each neighbor and explaining that he is NOT recording their property. Karen’s don’t care, they just do what they want. He went and spoke to each Neighbor to let them know and show them that he’s not recording their property. I think what he did was great.
Camera Story: I wouldn't have removed the Cameras, If/when they did Fine me, I'd have Sue the Board in Court to nullify the Fine and Ban them from blocking any measure designed to increase the Safety of the Homeowners and their Property... If it help protect me, my home and my Family, then I will NOT allow some jumped up Napoleon wannabe with Delusions of Adequacy tell me I can't do it...I WILL fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary...
As I understand it, not only is it Common Sense and Basic Safety to disconnect the Power to the compactor before crawling inside, it actual LAW that you MUST disconnect the Power AND install all applicable safety stops/braces/bars etc. to keep the compaction plate from turning you into strawberry jam... OSHA takes such things VERY Serious and hands out EXTREMELY Nasty (and expensive) Fines for those that don't follow the rules/Laws...
@@animaster2023 So it's common sense that there are laws that stop you from doing stupid crap? There's no law against eating paint chips, nor is there one against bathing with a broken blender dude.
Story 1: Captain Cheat got everything he deserved. Story 2: Kevin has dodged a massive bullet. OP did him a big favour. Story 3: The only reason I can think of that the HOA board doesn't want cameras installed is so they can break into OP's home without getting caught. The entire board should've been removed from their positions and the HOA disbanded. It only serves the power-tripping interests of Karen and her cronies. Story 4: Pauly got off lightly in that situation.
Heavy Wreckers cost $250.00 or more JUST TO SHOW UP TO THE SITE...Then you have to pay for whatever Services they perform (pulling you out of a ditch or mud, towing to a garage etc.)... know, I used to drive tractor-trailers and the last thing you wanted to do was call your Boss and tell them you need a wrecker...
On story one, yeah yell at them do whatever you can to get their attention. The only time you wouldn’t do that is like on an unguarded saw, where yelling at the person to guard their saw so the don’t cut their fingers off could literally cause them to possibly cut their fingers off.
Related with the compactor safely violation story, there's a horrible incident that happened in a food processing facility in the Philippines. A worker went into their big kitchen and found a coworker halfway through, headfirst, into an active big meat grinder. Oh, the poor soul... ☠️☠️☠️
I've lived in a couple of different neighborhoods, including one which one of my neighbors were very sketchy. I can say from experience if you have neighbors which oppose you having cameras, they are 100% scoping your property for theft. In my case, one of the people which had a problem with my cameras got arrested for breaking the window on my other neighbor's house, then called the ambulance when they cut themselves on the glass, still on the property. The caretaker of the property noticed the broken glass and blood stains later, and with just the paramedic's testimony, the police had enough to make an arrest on the matter. They were folks living with their parents because they had pages long rap sheets and couldn't get employed anywhere. All they did against my cameras though was holding middle fingers out their car windows as they drove by, making sure to clip my outer driveway recording zone in the process.
My brother and sister-in-law lived at the edge of an HOA. NOT in it, next to it. They had a trampoline in their back yard. The HOA tried to make them remove it, but my brother simply pointed out the HOA ended before his back yard started. I know they didn't take it with them when they moved, and I sincerely hope it is still there (with the new tenants blessing) just to annoy the HOA.
Third story: OP is not the a-hole, they have a right to protect their property, I never would have even said anything to either neighbor in the first place. Unless the area has laws already written for this, most areas don't give expectations of privacy with regard to your neighbors having cameras that catch parts of their driveways as long as the primary focus of those cameras are not your neighbors. Case in point, I have cameras that hit neighbors both sides of my property as well as the neighbor across the street. I did take precaution and block out recording of their properties for sake of privacy too but at least with mine, it still records the whole picture if motion appears in the areas you want to record in. When my neighbor had the break in, they asked me if my cameras happened to pick up anything and thankfully it did and I preserved the footage and shared it with them. They were able to give it to the police and catch the guys that broke in.
Just what I needed this afternoon. Had a hardware engineer who couldn't tell the difference between a display port and hdmi cables and it took 20 minutes with multiple pictures to get them to understand. Ugh.
Story 4: I was a concrete and block contractor for around 15 years. OP is stunningly and exactly correct. However, if it had been me, Pauly would've paid for that wrecker. I've also seen the reverse of this happen too though. We poured basement foundations as much or more than we built block ones and we did it out in the wilds of rural western SD and eastern WY. We knew our jobs though and were very careful about what we asked cement truck drivers to do and usually used a concrete pump if there was any doubt in our minds at all. Sometimes though there would be a new driver with an overinflated sense of his own skill and when that happened they'd decide that I was being over cautious (because I was girl, you know). It only happened twice over the course of my career but both times these geniuses got too close to the edge of the hole and dropped their trucks into the basement of the almost house. And OF COURSE this happened out in the boonies with long AND expensive wait times for wreckers. And the drivers were on the hook for the whole crew's time during the wait, the time spent ripping out the partial foundation, reforming it and the concrete used for it. Then they became unemployed and unemployable with any other cement plants in a 500 mile radius. Good times.
Story 3: From where I come from, neighbors are cool with the fact that their neighbor's CCTV camera covers any part of their house because they also benefit from it--just in case something happens.
Story 2- I live in Fl (I know I am sorry) and we have so many HOA’s. HOA’s are awful, power hungry, and full of Karen’s. Yes, everyone pays in, but everyone also has to deal with this nonsense. So this person made that HOA rethink every stupid letter, every lawsuit, and every power-trip a Karen has. You have to understand that these places complain about grass being 1 inch to tall, your car parked badly, your house color, and whatever they deem worthy. Most of us have cameras and all of them have that block out feature! can
I'm an HOA President and Treasurer. All owners are HOA members, and they should all get hardcopies of the HOA Declaration, Bylaws, and other written rules & regs. A responsible owner will read these documents before making alterations to the outside of the property, as most of the Rules pertain to the outside of the buildings which the HOA is responsible for. Once the new owner has read the document, they should get acquainted with a Board member. So if an owner runs into trouble with "the HOA" (which includes the very owner who's in trouble!!), they have a Board member on their side.
Never lived anywhere with an HOA but did have a complaining neighbor. Right after she moved in, she kept complaining about my dogs' barking. Tried to tell her the neighbors on the other side had half a dozen hounds that were doing most of the barking since I monitored mine for excess noise but she wouldn't accept that. She stopped complaining when the house behind hers got robbed and someone banged on her door at 3 in the morning!
Story 1: Worked with a guy that was going to school as a Millwright and they took a whole section on safety. I think it was his teacher told them a story about these three guys that were servicing/inspecting a metal press, big enough to walk into. It had a laser trip and somebody didn't disconnect the power and those guys ended up being a few millimetres thick. Always double check and use lockout/tagouts.
as the shop safety officer I get great joy out of the times when I get to really lay into someone when they do something so epically unsafe (epically when it was the new shop manager that only got the job because no one else that was asked wanted the responsibility). among his list of safety crimes is running in front of the forklift/under the load, walking un tethered on very thin pieces of stock material after climbing off of the rolling ladder ( at over 12 feet off the ground) and getting in the way of materials path being run through the saws.
The first OP is right, the education you get during your first 2 years of community college are for the most part superior to what you would get at a large university. When I took the second quarter of organic chemistry there were few enough students in the class that all of us had to put one question form the homework on the board every class. At the university, there were 200 students in the class and a teaching assistant.
I went to a community college for the first 2 years. I was a biology major. We would take (non mandatory) trips in my ecology class. They were good experience for learning things that you couldn't really learn in the class. Transferred to a 4 year school for the last 2 years. One of the first classes I took was dendrology. And, the professor took us to several of the same places. I don't recall now where the tree was, but it's a non native tree for the area, a blackjack oak. He asked if anyone knew what the tree was. No one else responded. I finally said, blackjack oak. This wasn't the first time I had correctly identified a tree he hadn't covered. He'd sometimes throw in a tree during a field quiz just to see if we were paying attention. If you didn't know, he didn't hold it against you. If you did, you got extra credit. He looked at me and asked, why are you even in this class?
'never climb into a rubbish crusher.' it's one of those things you'd hope no adult needs telling. Or at least only once! I worked on farms, and someone like that would just be dead within four months.
🤦🤦🤬🤦🤦 *I feel like Fluff now.. I've asked this many times, and I'll keep asking it... WHY IN HELL would anyone EVER want to PURPOSELY live in an HOA?!?* *Seriously.. HOA's, in my opinion, are the stuff nightmares are made of!* *There's NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to pay a couple hundred thousand dollars for a home, only to be TOLD what I can and cannot do in it, or with it! You've got me fu××ed up!*
Not only if a concrete driver wants you to sign off on something. Basically if anyone wants you to sign a waiver bevor they do a job think trice and listen to the person
That last story, I have horses and rent a field. The parking area is just a section of the field that had the fencing removed to allow people to park. If it's extremely wet out, it's not a good idea to park there. So, we'd park on the farm lane. One new boarder refused to listen and got stuck up to her axles. I know how to run the tractor and have done it often (I've put out round bales of hay, pulled broken fence posts, mowed, etc). She asked me to pull her out. I took one look at her car and refused. She called AAA. They came out to tow her out, but didn't realize how soft the ground was and got the tow truck stuck! 😂 Not sure how they eventually got them both out. I had to leave. I did drop her off at her house, though, because she drove a school bus and needed to get home. She did learn her lesson. That area has been turned back into a field.
#3 - Wait a minute. Didn't the OP state that there were only two cameras that looked at the front of the house so they could see their cars? The commenters that were supporting the Karen obviously can't even read since they were talking about cameras that looked into her backyard, which weren't even there.
Story 1 Where I was working their number 1 priority is health and satiety. What I was told, is when my friend worked there, he jumped in the compactor while it was still going. luckily he stopped it, he did get a severe warning where he almost lost his job. The owner did gave him a second chance. Use your commonsense, when it’s anything to do with health and safety.
The neighbor was in the wrong, and the HOA was the brain dead losers who wasted the money. Personally as long as the cameras aren't pointed directly at people's windows, I don't care. My house has cameras, my neighbors love that we have cameras that cover my yard and parts of their yards, because if something goes missing, they know that there's a chance that my cameras might've caught what happened. But I guess some people have that mind set that people are setting up cameras to spy on them, like they do stuff that warrant having cameras on them.
My cameras look out on our driveway, and it also covers the road and both of the houses across the road in a development. It's a pretty far distance, and I wouldn't move or take down my cameras for either of the houses that my cameras show their backyards. You can't see anything anyway!! Lol Absolutely ridiculous!!
A Concrete Driver asking you to sign the Ticket before entering the Job Site is no different that someone in any other Business asking their Boss/Manager to Put That In Writing... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
If you don't like the looks of the cameras, then don't look at them. Because here in America we can take all the photos we want. It's called doing things we enjoy.
Story 3: Not the @$$hole. I was that neighbor who put up cameras, because growing up my parents also had cameras and it saved their own and neighbors buts in court several times. My own neighbors were ok with me graying out their areas and even started asking me to move my cameras to overlap their yard so I could help them catch someone breaking into cars on the street.
Regarding story 4, I have to laugh alongside the driver. If a licensed user of ANY equipment tells you that what you want isn't possible, listen to them.
No laws preventing drones from taking pictures and videos of everything without consent should have been the HOA/video camera guy's argument. At least they know where his cameras are.
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Story 3 in alternate timeline
"Hey you can't install camera, it's invading people's privacy"
"Okay "
"Hey, someone robbed us, can we see the camera?"
"I removed it, you told me it's invaded people's privacy"
Pikachu face activated.
If you can avoid it, never live in an HOA.
I once lived in a covenant which was just ... interesting
HOAs should be illegal…
Over my cold, dead, rotting body! Too many stupid, pointless rules and self-important people.
More like research the HOA before you buy, if it’s under a management company it’s usually good
@sparkplug1018 Maybe, but every house that sells in an hoa is a potential for a dictator to move in. Then you're good hoa turns into a bad hoa real fast. Best to just not live in one if you cam help it
Story Three: Unless the HOA is also willing to cover any losses caused by theft & the price of a 24/7 body guard to protect OP against any home invaders, a certain level of incidental coverage of neighbors yards is a reasonable expectation for security. I wonder how the HOA would react to property values for the development plummeting when it gets around that they won't let you have reasonable home protection equipment installed & thus is a playground for burglars?
On that, if the area can be seen from a public view, it would be nondifferent that a person filming from the sidewalk or street, so there is no legal basis. The Karen wants to be a crotchety C U Next Tuesday because she feels she has a god complex
Having camera is not a creepy move... unless you on purpose point it to a window or the neighbor pool. More, he had the option and used it to gray out some area to exactly not invade privacy. In my mind, it's ok that HOA ask question. But, the first question should has been : Can you give me a written that your neighbor are sastify with your isntallation? And it would have been a close case.
I'm not very familiar with HOA, but it doesn't normally work base on complaint? They put rules and will "investigate/look for issue" only when reported? I know cities work like this normally because in general it's a lot more costly to look for issue (cause you'll find a lot a small issues "by the book" that nobody care and no real issue). It has been a couple of story where I feel a member of the HOA is an unemployed person looking for entertainment, set their mind on "it's wrong" and can't hear any argument.
@@nicolasjoly6948 I think you missed that the HOA karen in question actually _was_ one of the affected neighbors. She was complaining that the camera was pointed in a direction where it could view her yard, and when they didn't take it down, then she got the whole HOA involved.
And invasion of privacy is a legitimate concern in some situations. It doesn't really matter _why_ you put the camera up, if it has the ability to record other people's private areas and they don't want that, they arguably have a right to not be filmed in their own back yard by someone else without their permission. However, that's why most of these sorts of cameras actually have functions to block out and not record parts of the frame (like these did), for exactly that reason.
If the camera is configured not to record that area, then there is absolutely no difference (practically, legally, or ethically) between that and a camera which is pointed such that it doesn't have the neighbor's property in view. (Of course, the karen and the HOA already knew this, which is why they tried to treat it as an HOA violation instead of a civil/criminal complaint, because they knew from a legal standpoint they had nothing to stand on.)
*Third Story:* OP is not the a-hole. The cameras were positioned to overlook his driveway. He even explained the parts of the neighbor's backyard was grayed out on the recordings. Neighbor should invest in a fence if they're so butthurt about it. OP could be a good neighbor and give them some ass cream, though.
OP did what Trump did with his flag post, maliciously comply with the letter of the regulation.
This is not an "Am I the butthole"-video.
It's a video about people getting reverse by doing what the other person asked them to do.
Maybe not the A-hole but in some countries still in the wrong. Germany for example doesn't allow graying out via software. You have to actually use covers on the camera to make sure it can't record public ground or that of another person.
You're correct, but 90% of these stories occur because idiots decide that what they want is the only thing that matters, no matter what logic or physics laws get in the way.
@@MegaKBang you didn’t watch the video or you wouldn’t have made such a stupid response. Or maybe you have comprehension issues. Idiots are calling him a creepy ahole for putting cameras on his property.
Story 4: word of advice if a truck driver tells you a truck is not going somewhere, then the truck very likely shouldn’t go there. The driver might be over cautious, or the driver knows for sure the truck can’t go somewhere. The last truck went there is a phrase that may cost you a lot of money. Your pushing the driver could cost you $100000+
As a driver when I'm told the last guy got in there I always answer with "I'm not the last driver" and explain why my truck isn't going there. If that fails a call to my dispatcher usually takes care of things. He just explains that I've been with the company 27 yrs and has over 30 yrs experience total and if I say it's not doable, it's not doable.
Well first of all I absolutely love the Labyrinth reference (bog of Eternal stench hahaha) but other than that I unfortunately did not understand 3/4 of this story LOL
"But a sternly worded response indicating that we were prepared to fight them actually worked this time." I wonder if it said something like "You wanna waste another $4000 throwing a temper tantrum? Go right ahead!"
"See if you can keep your board position a SECOND time."
Concerning OP and his HOA problem about his cameras, definitely NOT an a**hole! Not only OP is protecting his house but also his neighbors benefit about his surveillance. Karen is acting like a ‘Karen’ and should be appreciative instead of that ‘neighborhood watch’.
I'd love a camera other than my trail cams and wish all the neighbors had them. We get some interesting critters here lol
Its a 4 way stop town of less then 40 homes. Deer walk right through town 😅
I'm about to get a doorbell camera fitted and checked if my neighbour minded as it would cover some of his garden including his path, he was really happy as it's security for him as well. This is in the UK so we are supposed to check if it will cover any of the neighbours property and if they say no you have to alter the cameras range.
My family has a doorbell cam and while it’s mainly to look out for packages (my dad LOVES Amazon) my parents also use it to protect us. Mind you this camera has a very wide range. It overlooks everything from the 3 neighbors properties who live across from us, to our entire porch (minus maybe 1-3 feet of the porch). Also keep in mind that the people who live directly across from us are part of the HOA, the president/head of the hoa. Thankfully he couldn’t give a rats ass what we do with our property and his main concern is upkeep of the ponds and parks in the neighborhood… oh and scheduling food trucks to come in once or twice a week from mid spring to mid fall.
At an old job, the trash compactor was on an automatic timer.
People (non-employees sneaking on site to steal from trash) did lose their arms all the time
Mr. Cheat teacher story: Reminds me of a science teacher in high school. I only had him for work study, not an actual class. His idea of teaching a class was to show a short documentary type film on a subject, occasionally stop it to tell a story/joke and while the film was playing write notes on the blackboard. After the film he would have a pop quiz on the film. ALL THE ANSWERS WERE WRITTEN ON THE BLACKBOARD, though not in any particular order and no extra answers not on the quiz. The amazing thing was that the quizzes were graded immediately afterwards. I don't remember a single student ever getting better than 80-90% on the quizzes and there were always a few that didn't even get 50%! Yeah, he was let go the following year, but that's a story all of its own.
My HOA is the unicorn of HOAs. I've been here for nearly 7 years and not once have I had any issues with them. They pretty much leave everybody alone. It's a little on the expensive side, but definitely worth it. They take care of the common areas which includes mowing everybody's lawn once a week, Take care of roofing, and in general just keep everything nice and tidy. My community is all one story attached homes and very quiet. I didn't even know that I would be happy with an HOA until I moved here!
And Singapore is a working dictatorship. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I, too, live in such a neighborhood and HOA. The board members have been just lovely, and subsequently, everyone in the neighborhood are quiet, discrete, and Don put up any decorations that are too outlandish.
@@dinascharnhorst6590 - meanwhile, the HOA before this one was the typical Karen filled board. It was awful! I was happy to move!
1st story: well... better getting fired than getting CRUSHED.
Better to get you hopes of continued employment crushed than your body.
Yelling at people may seem like a mean thing to do but it's the only way to get the message to stick in a person's brain. As long as the person yelling doesn't make it personal and not to carry it on it's fine.
Story 3: If a neighbor is complaining this hard over cameras that aren't even recording them, that usually gives the implication that the neighbor is one of those "I snoop around" neighbors and is mad that the homeowner is not letting them.
If HOA doesn’t want cameras in a home raises many flags. It’s possible that some of those members of the board could be embezzling money from the owners of false fines or extreme cases possible theft
@@KingNoah231 I feel like if the HOA is fighting anyone on anything reasonable, it's a sign of nefarious deeds.
Or they’re paranoid about their own illegal activities that they think might get caught (drug dealing and such)
Always expect HOAs to be awful and anyone on the boards of them to be horrible, shady people.
Objections to security cameras scream "I don't want to be caught doing things on camera". It's such a common and understandable thing these days for people to have, objecting to it smacks of guilt.
Story one. Guy is lucky the compactor he climbed into did not start automatically. There not common but they are out there.
Story 4: If someone tells you that they can't do something because of X and Y, don't force them. Better safe than sorry as some say
I remember hearing a story about an owner that ignored safety regulations while still expecting his employees to follow them. No one called him out because he was the owner.
Then they hired someone who didn't know who he was and he called out the owner. People tried to stop him, but he wouldn't back down. I don't recall now what all happened, but I think the owner realized what he was doing and changed.
Story 4: There are steel mats you can rent similar to ones they made airstrips out of in the pacific campaign in ww2 called “marston mats” that keep you from sinking in sand. Several construction sites I’ve been on have used them to make roads so construction vehicles wouldn’t get stuck. The cost was pretty cheap compared to the cost of labor. There are similar solutions that are even cheaper but don’t last as long. Pauly obviously didn’t have any experience with sand or clay or he would have already had something in place.
My late husband worked as the lead engineer at a refinery for several years. I think they put something like that down if they had to go in areas where it was possible to crush underground pipes with the equipment.
I've also seen them use them along the side of the road in various work areas.
As someone whose prior job, and current job, involves tossing trash into a compactor, you don't mess with those - wood, metal, and solid plastic can be crushed, snapped, and broken very easily by them.
I remember once, my security badge got caught by some garbage, and flew into the compactor as I threw it in. Luckily, my supervisor (head of maintenance), was able to get it, as I realized what had happened, and got him before I did anything else. Of course, if he hadn't been able to get it, I'd of gotten a new badge - easier to replace than a person.
I totally relate with the concrete truck driver- I was a barrel-head for 10 years, and it’s amazing what people expect you to do on a job site.
What, like... your job? I have yet to see a site where any of y'all are actually _working._
1st story: firing him also save the company from future litigation about being hurt by his own action but the company not enforcing the rules.... they may not lose in court, but they would still lose time a money to fight this...
HOA used a most vague and insufficient rule: "don't be a nuisance." Victim should have filed nuisance complaints against HOA member neighbor as retaliation. And kept on filing to overwhelm the board meeting agenda.
I did so love the style (narration and the action itself) of the truck driver, a true poet.
7:19 i admit, one of my teachers did something similar too, but only basicaly with "Look at it again and think about it", wich helped a lot. I was to fast in my final examin and made mistakes. Needles to say i was class best at that in the end thanks to him. This is how its done right , more of a "you know the answer, think about it again" than a "the answer is that and that".
Last story: as an LTL driver myself, my favorite lines are “you can’t miss it” and “we have trucks up here all the time”. Inevitably I show up, looking hopelessly up their narrow, winding gravel driveway and hear from the customer “oh I thought you were in a little UPS truck”. No Gramps, this is a semi truck with a 28 foot trailer and I’m not taking it up that driveway because i know im getting stuck
At first I was like "wow, it's so not okay to have a camera that's range includes someone elses garden!" But then OP explained about that graying out thing, and that makes it okay.
So I wouldn't like to have a camera pointed at my property, but if it doesn't even film it, there's no reason to be against it. No privacy invaded or anything, all good.
Personally as long as I'm doing nothing that's not appropriate on the outside of my home, for me that security camera is providing me with some protection, and if I had a neighbor with one that had grayed out my area, I'd hand as bit to not gray out what is covered of where I live. It might not be much living on the fixed income if a retiree. However I'm grateful that I don't live in a gated community or and H.O.A. or even to one.
@@vernonharden Yeah idk, sunbathing for example is appropriate, and I wouldn't want to be filmed by a neighbour. So greying out would be necessary. If I needed security I could just install cameras myself. I don't want to be filmed in my sloppy gardening outfits or a bikini or just while doing personal, maybe even embarrassing stuff.
But if you don't sunbathe or anything it might actually be a nice way to get free security, you're right😂😉
@@Artemis_-yy1nt I can understand that point of view.
"Go tell some who gives a C." Don't say that to someone who knows who to tell for maximum impact.
The story with the camera's is not the jerk! They have every right to protect their property with their camera's period .
Last story: Just in case you didn't know, the cost for a heavy wrecker call in California STARTS at about $2,000....
I looked up "Salton Sea" in the internet, and it said nothing about any businessman, any Canadian construction firm, nor any illegal digging. In fact, the digging was commissioned by Californian governor, and it served what it meant to be, as irrigation reserve, until recently when the lake is drying up and the water become too salty because of evaporation. Contrary to what OP suggest, any Colorado river flooding is good thing for the lake, because additional fresh water will keep down the saltiness of the lake.
The first story reminded me of my time working as a Maintenance Safety Committee member in a hog/pig slaughter plant. My job was not only doing maintenance work but also instructing maintenance on the safety protocols for everything on the kill floor and the cold processing floor. I would write up anyone that violated safety procedures including Supervisors and Managers.
I had a visiting production supervisor that demanded I call my supervisor because I threatened to write him up on a safety violation if he did what he told me he was going to do to get a piece of equipment running.
I called for my supervisor (Al) over the radio and explained what was going on when Al got there. Al looked at this nut job and asked if I was correct. Mr. Nutjob said yes and then told Al that there was "No way a lowly maintenance worker would dare write up a Yellow Hat." (In this plant production wore White hard hats, Maintenance Grey, Safety Red, Supervisors Yellow, and Managers Green)
As Mr. Nutjob went to reach into the unlocked machine, I grabbed his hand and told him to leave the floor and await the Plant Manager. Al escorted him off the floor and I wrote up the report and walked it straight to the Plant Manager's office and an immediate safety hearing was called for which included me, the Plant Manager, Al, the Maintenance Shift Manager, Production Manager, and two other Safety Committee members. Within half an hour of that meeting, Mr. Nutjob was being escorted out of the plant by security.
Yes, that plant took safety that seriously, and last I had heard Mr. Nutjob had been fired when he returned to the plant he actually worked at.
Story 3: Since the line item was "Title Searches" and we all know that was a lie...what else are they lying about? I would demand forensic accounting of the books.
Why would the HOA care about security cameras that black out the property that is not theirs? If an HOA is objecting to that I would suspect the HOA of trespassing.
Story 3: Why would anyone consider OP to be the a..hole when the camera is blocked from filming the neighbor's property (including not reacting to movements over there)..?
Also thanks once more for the reminder to be really glad HOAs don't exist in my country since most things they do would literally be illegal here..
Because he could have just repositioned the cameras, but instead chose to turn it into a huge fight.
@@wmdkitty You can't really reposition without having some edges of the neighbors space. Unless you want film only half of own drive way but that kinda defeats the purpose
@@wmdkitty Considering the camera "observing" both neighbors, the property is clearly not wide enough to just be repositioned without doing so.
@@wmdkitty repositioning cameras isnt that easy mate. The camera wasnt recording her yard if it was she had a point to complain but it wasnt. OP didnt even have to tell her so there is that.
OP in the neighbor camera story he was honest and told the neighbor exactly what was going on and showed how they worked. So there shouldn't have been any qualms about this whole situation. Op could have just had the cameras rolling and never told her but no he didn't. The woman was just offended that she had somebody watching her place at all and decided to make it personal.
OP also could have nudged the cameras just a smidge to not look over Karen's property.
@@wmdkitty depends on the angle. If OP had to install camera at an odd angle, moving it enough to not clip Karen's yard could have put some of their property out of focus or frame. There is also no legal obligation anywhere in the US as far as I can tell to make it physically impossible for your cameras to see a neighbor's yard. Taking the neighbor's yard out of motion-recording zones is good enough for most, even more restrictive jurisdictions. Reason being is that if you're in a yard visible by a neighbor or public sidewalk, there is no expectation of privacy. It's understandable for Karen to have a problem with it if they were pointed at her windows or something like that. But I think in this situation she was just mad for the sake of being mad, or was planning to do something shady or criminal on OP's property.
I once had neighbors who showed disapproval of me having cameras by pulling in my driveway a bit and flipping them off nearly every time they went by. One of them later got arrested for trying, and failing, to break into my neighbor's house on the opposite side.
@@techguydilan My aunt says she has this neighbor who does meth in likes to stare at her house across the street. I beg her to get cameras because she's always saying that he's going to come over and try and kill him and she's just like I'm just going to kill me.
@@richewilson6394 If you can afford it getting her cameras might be a good gift idea if you don't have any other ideas. Even if it's one of the cheap wireless ones with their own tablets and MicroSD card. Methheads usually don't have the means to rig a device to deauth them. But the wired Night Owl ones from Walmart are better IMO if you can figure out how to install them for her.
Our former neighbor installed 8 cameras on the duplex we shared. Each camera had a sign informing us we were being watched. I had to call the police just to document the situation. The field report was forwarded to the landlord and the neighbors are gone.
OP did NOT waste the HOA's money. They picked the fight and spent their own money on their own.
Story 3: no. OP is absolutely not the ahole or the Karen. The neighbors area is greyed out. The neighbor needs to GROW UP! Why such a fuss? I'd be glad to have my yard protected personally. What is the neighbor trying to hide maybe hmmm?
HOA position: no. Sorry. Hoa is in the wrong. They should not be allowed to tell you what to do to protect your own home. They were stretching and would have lost in the courts.
Easy solution, have the HOA request unedited stored video proving that no adjacent property is visible in the video due to the grayed out areas.
If you enjoyed story 4, that author has a number of concrete-related stories on malicious compliance, and I say they are all worth a read.
That last story. Driving that truck is that man’s profession. He knows how much it weighs and what it can do. Listen the the people that do the job!
I've been working in IT for 10 years and still get told by clients that they'll take the advice of their 7 year old "computer genius" nephew over my advice. Some people just like to go by feel-good advice instead of sound advice from a seasoned pro. In the case of the story 4 on the video, the truck being able to go through the sand and avoiding hard work sounded better to them than the experienced driver knowing the limits of the truck without having to test them every time.
@@techguydilan It’s aggravating. I spent 10 years as a service coordinator. I had 12 techs I scheduled. I knew our equipment inside & out & even took the training classes & certification so I’d know what my techs were doing but still had customers say “Well Darlin let me tell you what you need to do”. Or refuse the repairs because they didn’t want the costs. Unfortunately for them in most cases I had local/state/federal regulations on my side & most of the local fire marshals on speed dial. 😂. But I get your side too. My Hubby did IT, programming/engineering for many years & the ID10T problems came up daily.
Third story: The karen had no business. It wasn't his neighbor complaining it was the HOA complaining. His next door neighbor even said "that's fine" but HOA karen for some odd suspicious reason didn't like it. Maybe the HOA has been trespassing on peoples lawns while they are away
A crime occurs, and the suspects are seen clear as day going through Karen's backyard. She points out OP having cameras looking at her yard that could help to better identify them.
OP: But Karen, you and the HOA told me to take my cameras down because they invaded your privacy.
Karen: **surprised Pikachu face**
And that's why OP is NOT the Karen; HOA or no, homeowners are entitled to their peace of mind. And, it may help their neighbors too. Remember that, everyone.
Also, giant THANK YOU for the Labyrinth reference!
In the story involving the HOA, I can;t imagine that anyone thought OP was the a-hole in that situation. Definitely not! The Karen and the rest of the HOA most certainly were. I have yet to hear of an HOA that wasn't predominantly a-holes. If I were looking for a home, the first question I would ask is if there was an HOA, and if there was, it'd be a deal-breaker on the spot. I don't need the drama or the grief.
Story 4. Years ago my brother drove a heavy wrecker. From memory it cost $1,200 to get it out the gate. Then xx $ Per distance and time. You would be lucky if your bill was under $4.000. Remember this was over 20 years ago. Out side normal hours overtime rates applied.
The hoa camera thing. One, the cameras can be used to prevent crime, as well and help solve a crime. And Two, Screw hoas.
That first story, they should just post signs around the compactors: "For climbing into a compactor with power connected, first offense will result in a verbal warning, second in a write-up, third time, we just press the 'Start' button."
Nah. Immediate termination. If someone is dumb enough to climb into a compactor without doing a lockout/tagout disruption of the power source, then they have no business working for the company, because what other common sense f*ckups are they going to do when they're there.
@@meh2510 I mean, that should be the *formal* policy in the employee handbook, the signs would be more to underline the risk of bodily harm.
The compactor has a sign on it that says not to climb in it unless it is disconnected from a power source. It is pounded into any and every employee's head to not to climb into the thing, and that If you are caught climbing into it you would be fired on the spot no if ands or buts. Most places require you to sign an acknowledgement that you understand the safety procedures and that ignoring those rule can lead to immediate termination. In fact having signs saying what you suggest could get OSHA and other safety inspectors breathing down the necks of the business that had them up. It is an immediate fine if certain things are done during one of those inspections and it would be a HUGE violation for a person to be found climbing in the compactor while it was still functional. Heck I remember one place that I worked at had a lock on it and a manager on standby if anyone needed to use it whenever an inspector came just to be super safe.
Story 1: Common Sense died a long time ago. It should go without saying that climbing into a compactor is a deadly idea.
Story 2: Good. It'd be unfair to students who actually knew the answers to have those who didn't know also get 100% by cheating.
If OP in story 3 is the a-hole, what about my neighbor that has a camera looking over my entire front yard and front door? The side of his lot butts against my front yard and he has maybe 3 feet of space from the wall of his house to the property line. He installed motion cameras and lights (lights are now disabled because they would literally turn on if I opened my front door after dark) on that side of the house.....that looks 90% over my property. And there is a stone wall that was put in around the tiny amount of property that camera is covering.
My family and I have had issues with this dude from almost day 1. Our first meeting with this a-hole was him beating on our front door, at 10 pm at night, demanding the car on the street be moved because it was too close to his. When his was parked in such way that parking behind it would block around 1/4th of our driveway due to them being a-holes. Karma came for his ass though because the last really big wind storm that hit, tore a pretty big branch off the tree that he parks his car in front of and it landed on his windshield.
Story 3: Always expect HOAs to be awful and anyone on the boards of them to be horrible, shady people.
Last story: I'm sorry, did I hear that correctly? A *27:1* gearing???
Good gods. Sure, you'll need to worry about hitting an immovable object, but what would actually count as "immovable" against that? A mountain?
I've never heard of a professor helping his students cheat! Favoring one student, yes, but never this. First time for everything.
Any time anyone says, _"Please sign here,"_ or _"Can you put that in writing,"_ or _"... in an email,"_ or words to that effect, better take a close look at any possible consequences, because you've probably just opened yourself up to a problem.
He is well within his rights to put a camera up over his own property. If he was acting like a “Karen“ he wouldn’t have gone to each neighbor and explaining that he is NOT recording their property. Karen’s don’t care, they just do what they want. He went and spoke to each Neighbor to let them know and show them that he’s not recording their property. I think what he did was great.
Camera Story: I wouldn't have removed the Cameras, If/when they did Fine me, I'd have Sue the Board in Court to nullify the Fine and Ban them from blocking any measure designed to increase the Safety of the Homeowners and their Property...
If it help protect me, my home and my Family, then I will NOT allow some jumped up Napoleon wannabe with Delusions of Adequacy tell me I can't do it...I WILL fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary...
In the world of malicious compliance, the customer is always right. _Especially when they're wrong._
People who find themselves on the side of an HOA are most certainly in the wrong.
2:25 I would have told him "by doggy" as he left 😂😂
I say 4k to keep the HOA in check every so often is worth the extra expense.
As I understand it, not only is it Common Sense and Basic Safety to disconnect the Power to the compactor before crawling inside, it actual LAW that you MUST disconnect the Power AND install all applicable safety stops/braces/bars etc. to keep the compaction plate from turning you into strawberry jam...
OSHA takes such things VERY Serious and hands out EXTREMELY Nasty (and expensive) Fines for those that don't follow the rules/Laws...
NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!
@@animaster2023 People not of those fields don't often know it's legally enforced dude.
@@LegendStormcrow dude, it's COMMON FREAKING SENSE! Ya don't need a degree to know this crap, bro.
@@animaster2023 So it's common sense that there are laws that stop you from doing stupid crap? There's no law against eating paint chips, nor is there one against bathing with a broken blender dude.
@@LegendStormcrow I'm saying it's common sense to not do shit like this, regardless of whether or not there's a law against it
Story 1: Captain Cheat got everything he deserved.
Story 2: Kevin has dodged a massive bullet. OP did him a big favour.
Story 3: The only reason I can think of that the HOA board doesn't want cameras installed is so they can break into OP's home without getting caught. The entire board should've been removed from their positions and the HOA disbanded. It only serves the power-tripping interests of Karen and her cronies.
Story 4: Pauly got off lightly in that situation.
Heavy Wreckers cost $250.00 or more JUST TO SHOW UP TO THE SITE...Then you have to pay for whatever Services they perform (pulling you out of a ditch or mud, towing to a garage etc.)...
know, I used to drive tractor-trailers and the last thing you wanted to do was call your Boss and tell them you need a wrecker...
On story one, yeah yell at them do whatever you can to get their attention. The only time you wouldn’t do that is like on an unguarded saw, where yelling at the person to guard their saw so the don’t cut their fingers off could literally cause them to possibly cut their fingers off.
Last story: Really LOLed at "God of Torque" term 🤣
For story 1 Mr. Idiot almost won a Darwin award by climbing into a compactor literally the day after a safety meeting about that very machine
Related with the compactor safely violation story, there's a horrible incident that happened in a food processing facility in the Philippines.
A worker went into their big kitchen and found a coworker halfway through, headfirst, into an active big meat grinder.
Oh, the poor soul... ☠️☠️☠️
I've lived in a couple of different neighborhoods, including one which one of my neighbors were very sketchy. I can say from experience if you have neighbors which oppose you having cameras, they are 100% scoping your property for theft. In my case, one of the people which had a problem with my cameras got arrested for breaking the window on my other neighbor's house, then called the ambulance when they cut themselves on the glass, still on the property. The caretaker of the property noticed the broken glass and blood stains later, and with just the paramedic's testimony, the police had enough to make an arrest on the matter. They were folks living with their parents because they had pages long rap sheets and couldn't get employed anywhere. All they did against my cameras though was holding middle fingers out their car windows as they drove by, making sure to clip my outer driveway recording zone in the process.
My brother and sister-in-law lived at the edge of an HOA. NOT in it, next to it. They had a trampoline in their back yard. The HOA tried to make them remove it, but my brother simply pointed out the HOA ended before his back yard started. I know they didn't take it with them when they moved, and I sincerely hope it is still there (with the new tenants blessing) just to annoy the HOA.
Third story: OP is not the a-hole, they have a right to protect their property, I never would have even said anything to either neighbor in the first place. Unless the area has laws already written for this, most areas don't give expectations of privacy with regard to your neighbors having cameras that catch parts of their driveways as long as the primary focus of those cameras are not your neighbors. Case in point, I have cameras that hit neighbors both sides of my property as well as the neighbor across the street. I did take precaution and block out recording of their properties for sake of privacy too but at least with mine, it still records the whole picture if motion appears in the areas you want to record in. When my neighbor had the break in, they asked me if my cameras happened to pick up anything and thankfully it did and I preserved the footage and shared it with them. They were able to give it to the police and catch the guys that broke in.
Just what I needed this afternoon. Had a hardware engineer who couldn't tell the difference between a display port and hdmi cables and it took 20 minutes with multiple pictures to get them to understand. Ugh.
15:00 - "It's the difference between Al Bundy and Ted Bundy." I'll have to remember that one! 😀
Story 4: I was a concrete and block contractor for around 15 years. OP is stunningly and exactly correct. However, if it had been me, Pauly would've paid for that wrecker.
I've also seen the reverse of this happen too though. We poured basement foundations as much or more than we built block ones and we did it out in the wilds of rural western SD and eastern WY. We knew our jobs though and were very careful about what we asked cement truck drivers to do and usually used a concrete pump if there was any doubt in our minds at all. Sometimes though there would be a new driver with an overinflated sense of his own skill and when that happened they'd decide that I was being over cautious (because I was girl, you know). It only happened twice over the course of my career but both times these geniuses got too close to the edge of the hole and dropped their trucks into the basement of the almost house. And OF COURSE this happened out in the boonies with long AND expensive wait times for wreckers. And the drivers were on the hook for the whole crew's time during the wait, the time spent ripping out the partial foundation, reforming it and the concrete used for it. Then they became unemployed and unemployable with any other cement plants in a 500 mile radius. Good times.
Story 3: From where I come from, neighbors are cool with the fact that their neighbor's CCTV camera covers any part of their house because they also benefit from it--just in case something happens.
The HOA story: OP is a hero and cudos for fighting for the little guy.
Story 2- I live in Fl (I know I am sorry) and we have so many HOA’s. HOA’s are awful, power hungry, and full of Karen’s. Yes, everyone pays in, but everyone also has to deal with this nonsense. So this person made that HOA rethink every stupid letter, every lawsuit, and every power-trip a Karen has. You have to understand that these places complain about grass being 1 inch to tall, your car parked badly, your house color, and whatever they deem worthy. Most of us have cameras and all of them have that block out feature! can
I'm an HOA President and Treasurer. All owners are HOA members, and they should all get hardcopies of the HOA Declaration, Bylaws, and other written rules & regs. A responsible owner will read these documents before making alterations to the outside of the property, as most of the Rules pertain to the outside of the buildings which the HOA is responsible for. Once the new owner has read the document, they should get acquainted with a Board member. So if an owner runs into trouble with "the HOA" (which includes the very owner who's in trouble!!), they have a Board member on their side.
Never lived anywhere with an HOA but did have a complaining neighbor. Right after she moved in, she kept complaining about my dogs' barking. Tried to tell her the neighbors on the other side had half a dozen hounds that were doing most of the barking since I monitored mine for excess noise but she wouldn't accept that. She stopped complaining when the house behind hers got robbed and someone banged on her door at 3 in the morning!
Story 1: Worked with a guy that was going to school as a Millwright and they took a whole section on safety. I think it was his teacher told them a story about these three guys that were servicing/inspecting a metal press, big enough to walk into. It had a laser trip and somebody didn't disconnect the power and those guys ended up being a few millimetres thick. Always double check and use lockout/tagouts.
Story 2 is what happens when Teachers pay is based off of test scores that their students get
Pfft, fighting HOAs is almost always a righteous cause.
as the shop safety officer I get great joy out of the times when I get to really lay into someone when they do something so epically unsafe (epically when it was the new shop manager that only got the job because no one else that was asked wanted the responsibility). among his list of safety crimes is running in front of the forklift/under the load, walking un tethered on very thin pieces of stock material after climbing off of the rolling ladder ( at over 12 feet off the ground) and getting in the way of materials path being run through the saws.
The first OP is right, the education you get during your first 2 years of community college are for the most part superior to what you would get at a large university. When I took the second quarter of organic chemistry there were few enough students in the class that all of us had to put one question form the homework on the board every class. At the university, there were 200 students in the class and a teaching assistant.
I went to a community college for the first 2 years. I was a biology major. We would take (non mandatory) trips in my ecology class. They were good experience for learning things that you couldn't really learn in the class.
Transferred to a 4 year school for the last 2 years. One of the first classes I took was dendrology. And, the professor took us to several of the same places.
I don't recall now where the tree was, but it's a non native tree for the area, a blackjack oak. He asked if anyone knew what the tree was. No one else responded. I finally said, blackjack oak. This wasn't the first time I had correctly identified a tree he hadn't covered. He'd sometimes throw in a tree during a field quiz just to see if we were paying attention. If you didn't know, he didn't hold it against you. If you did, you got extra credit. He looked at me and asked, why are you even in this class?
'never climb into a rubbish crusher.' it's one of those things you'd hope no adult needs telling. Or at least only once! I worked on farms, and someone like that would just be dead within four months.
In story 4 I also hoped that the idiot would have been on the hook for thousands after demanding a mixer truck defy the laws of physics.
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*I feel like Fluff now.. I've asked this many times, and I'll keep asking it... WHY IN HELL would anyone EVER want to PURPOSELY live in an HOA?!?*
*Seriously.. HOA's, in my opinion, are the stuff nightmares are made of!*
*There's NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to pay a couple hundred thousand dollars for a home, only to be TOLD what I can and cannot do in it, or with it! You've got me fu××ed up!*
Not only if a concrete driver wants you to sign off on something. Basically if anyone wants you to sign a waiver bevor they do a job think trice and listen to the person
The third story, OP is not the a-hole !!!!!
That last story, I have horses and rent a field. The parking area is just a section of the field that had the fencing removed to allow people to park. If it's extremely wet out, it's not a good idea to park there. So, we'd park on the farm lane.
One new boarder refused to listen and got stuck up to her axles. I know how to run the tractor and have done it often (I've put out round bales of hay, pulled broken fence posts, mowed, etc). She asked me to pull her out. I took one look at her car and refused.
She called AAA. They came out to tow her out, but didn't realize how soft the ground was and got the tow truck stuck! 😂 Not sure how they eventually got them both out. I had to leave. I did drop her off at her house, though, because she drove a school bus and needed to get home. She did learn her lesson.
That area has been turned back into a field.
#3 - Wait a minute. Didn't the OP state that there were only two cameras that looked at the front of the house so they could see their cars? The commenters that were supporting the Karen obviously can't even read since they were talking about cameras that looked into her backyard, which weren't even there.
The commenters were probably part of the HOA!
Story 1 Where I was working their number 1 priority is health and satiety. What I was told, is when my friend worked there, he jumped in the compactor while it was still going. luckily he stopped it, he did get a severe warning where he almost lost his job. The owner did gave him a second chance. Use your commonsense, when it’s anything to do with health and safety.
Last story: I would have called the wrecker anyway, just to waste more of Pauly's time on Pauly's dime!!! 😂😂😂
The neighbor was in the wrong, and the HOA was the brain dead losers who wasted the money. Personally as long as the cameras aren't pointed directly at people's windows, I don't care. My house has cameras, my neighbors love that we have cameras that cover my yard and parts of their yards, because if something goes missing, they know that there's a chance that my cameras might've caught what happened. But I guess some people have that mind set that people are setting up cameras to spy on them, like they do stuff that warrant having cameras on them.
My cameras look out on our driveway, and it also covers the road and both of the houses across the road in a development. It's a pretty far distance, and I wouldn't move or take down my cameras for either of the houses that my cameras show their backyards. You can't see anything anyway!! Lol
Absolutely ridiculous!!
A Concrete Driver asking you to sign the Ticket before entering the Job Site is no different that someone in any other Business asking their Boss/Manager to Put That In Writing...
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If you don't like the looks of the cameras, then don't look at them. Because here in America we can take all the photos we want. It's called doing things we enjoy.
Story 3:
Not the @$$hole. I was that neighbor who put up cameras, because growing up my parents also had cameras and it saved their own and neighbors buts in court several times. My own neighbors were ok with me graying out their areas and even started asking me to move my cameras to overlap their yard so I could help them catch someone breaking into cars on the street.
We have cameras to protect ourselves from people like this ..lol..
Regarding story 4, I have to laugh alongside the driver. If a licensed user of ANY equipment tells you that what you want isn't possible, listen to them.
No laws preventing drones from taking pictures and videos of everything without consent should have been the HOA/video camera guy's argument. At least they know where his cameras are.
last story happens really similar to bus drivers too, like working 8 hours, 6 days x week, a lot of years, means nothing to some people