Here we are with your King Guide for Tekken 8! Do you feel the need to grab someone and smash them into dust? Probably the right character for it! So lets give you an overview on what you need to look out for with the character, priority moves, example strategies, understanding core mechanics, and some bread & butter combos to top it off. So give a watch, like if ya liked it, and lemme know what you think!
Hi roofle! I've been curious about King and I've been considering learning him. But I've already decided on maining Reina. Around what point in time do you think it's best to pick up a second character as a relative noob? Thanks!!!
Hey man you might want to check the tags for this video, it doesn't show up if I look up "King Guide Tekken 8" it only appears if I specifically put your name in the search
Thank you so much for ur guide but I've always been confused about the 1234 as the buttons in translation to playing on Xbox, how would the 1,2,3,4 translate for a,b,x,y buttons
King main since T3, and I'm so happy with him in T8! Thanks for giving the true King of iron fist attention for your first guide. I think a lot of players will have a lot of fun learning the character, and I'd daresay he's never been better given how ridiculously strong throws are in T8 compared to prior Tekkens.
Finished watching the beginners guide last night and then I wake up to a new video🤦♂️. The consistency is baffling , kudos to you roofleKing 👑 best to ever do it .
Hey Everyone, if you're struggling on the DF2 into beast step Combo at 35:00, you can try a different route, (Full Crouch df2, 4, df43, b12, run 2+4) which will end up doing 72 damage (without blue sparks) instead, and it's FAR easier.
A thing you missed from the chain grab part. You can buffer inputs: if you press 1 and hold it and then press 3 the input will be 1, 1+3. For the arm breaker chain: 2, 1, 1+3. It can be done like this: 2, 1 (keep holding 1), 3. Its also like a rolling motion, press 2 and roll 1>3 and it will come out 100% of times. I always do it this way and find it easier, other chains have different motions but you have to try them out. If you played Gief in SF, do the Giant Swing using a reverse 360 motion if you struggle with forward into half-circle. You can play with the buffer window a lot more in t8 than SF, find the motion that suits you better for some grabs.
Dude… I committed to King main this morning after playing around with many characters. Literally looked on TH-cam for a king guide and nothing was worthwhile. Lo and behold I just needed to wait another hour or two
Also a mixup i like is spamming ↘️2+3 to condition them to only block low, then adding on the mid to it randomly, can combo off it. Its also just hilarious when they never adapt and cant get up.
@@Zachebi don't do the jab string grab since it's always a 2 break and predictable. also i guess both times you meant 2+4 instead of 2+3? if so then also please stop using the DF2+4 chaingrabs they are just inferior to wavu grabs in every way. if you actually meant the 2+3 knee bash then i'd recommend using the tombstone as your go to 2 throw. 13 more dmg, 11f instead of 12f and it groundbreaks. keep it up and honest king
@@Daylen151 on nina i’ve got a mixup for the grabs if they start teching, i can literally do it all round unless they start dealing with the actual jabs
brand new to Tekken and after playing a more "honest" character in Street Fighter I really wanted to feel the gratification of cheesing people in this game. Thanks to this video, I only needed to spend 30 minutes in training mode to start having a ton of casual fun online. Buffered spin grab off of jab, the kick launcher BnB and the easy chain grab alone have been helping me mow through the early ranks 🤣 I wanna learn Kazuya eventually but King is FUN as a newbie. Although it feels like I'm cheating it really helped me understand the fun of Tekken while getting a feel for when it's my turn. I really recommend anyone fretting over who to commit to just to try him out for an evening for a quick pass to a good time. Thanks for the great video! 🙏
Just getting back into tekken after about a 10 year break. Dude you’re amazing! Thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. Beyond helpful
Actually one of the best guides for King i've seen. I've leveled my King game to such a degree from just watching this one vid that i'm starting to think it's fucked that I didn't pay you for this video. Genuinely great teacher.
Hi Roof, In the days of Tekken 2 King was my second favourite character but I stopped playing Tekken after that. Mainly because I prefer 2D fighting games, but I am really considering buying this Tekken 8 because I think I would have allot of fun with King, and also because your guide has explained how to use the character so well. I have said this before and will most likely say it again, but nobody and I mean nobody does character fighting guides like you.
As expected the first character guide for the fighting game will be one of the big boys! I main Marshall Law, but I still love the big boy characters, and King is certainly a lot of fun. I'll happy start practicing him and throw punish those armor moves. >:3
@@rooflemongerThat's cool man, thought I'd leave this here for anyone trying to learn that might get confused by the names, but since you're here you put Tombstone at 4:48 as 3 + 4, it's 2 + 4
Excellent guide, dude! For any new players that want to listen to an old tekkenhead (playing King since 97') on some advice- play King. Even if he won't be your main, play him anyways specifically because he'll teach you several fundamentals for higher level play. King is extremely weak to fuzzy guarding. His grabs come out faster than the attacks he wants to mix you up with, so you can duck grabs, stand up from a crouch, if he's going for a low grab, + block his mids... then still get a chance for a grab break. So King players have to learn a few things. King teaches you how to condition your opponent. If you've never played against a brick wall of an opponent, you will... and when you're unable to move like a Mishima or attack as fast as the lighter cast, it becomes very very apparent you cannot just box people let alone get your hands on them to grapple. As Rooflemonger says, his lows aren't great, but they're tools to force your opponent to get out of their comfort zone. A very, "Start crouching or I'll break your ankles" mentality. And most importantly, King teaches you how to get inside your opponents head. This will apply to every character moving forward. Tekken operates with the idea that you cannot just rely on your "safe" moves forever because there are so few of them. You have to take gambles to open up higher level players, and now that there is chip damage on top of a 60 second timer... blocking and waiting for that perfect strike is going to come far less often than if you're making proper reads at every opportune moment. Every high attack is an opportunity for a crouch. Every low is a chance to parry or jump punish. And these reads won't come from counting frames. Go play King.
I struggle so much to get rolling death cradle on a control pad. On a stick, it's pretty easy, but the buttons on a control pad are not made for that move. And I don't key bind and I rarely play with a stick.
Hi man, im a bit late but can you do a guide on how to deal with pressure heavy characters? I know King plays on neutral but I struggle with him, especially in tekkne 8 where so many hit confirms and heat damage, the pressure is immense from characters such as Jin, Devil Jin, Kazuya's broken low string, Dragonuv strings etc. I struggle against string heavy characters and I do interrupt and duck them sometimes and then while standing 4 or iws22 to punish their whiffs, but when they are in heat, they just go ham and I cant deal wiht the pressure. Can you do a guide on that?
How do you do the microdash for the combo after df2, 1? I've been trying for an hour and can't seem to physically do it that fast. Is there some trick to it?
Can someone help me understand at 37:33. He mentions you have to microdash to get the df4,3 to connect on smaller/female characters, but I just cannot get it to work :(
Can anyone help with side stepping moves. I can do every move in the game, kings swing I can do kazuya electric uppercut but I can’t do a side step uppercut. Iv got no idea what’s going wrong. I’m side stepping and doing 2 and I’m just not getting the move to come out as it should. Specifically it’s devil Jin side step uppercut. What’s the deal?
Why do I like one of the hardest characters in the game (reina, dj) while king seems so easy, im just a casual tekken enjoyer😂. Still... watching an expert guide on beginner character feel little overwhelming.
Ok first Tekken 8 character guide, and yes, more to come! Let me know what you think about the format! Keeping the "starter guide" idea from MK1, giving you the core info you need to know without going into every single move making the video 2 hours long, core strats, bnb combos, and do you like the "top 10 moves" format idea? Its how we used to sorta break down 3d games back in the vf4/tekken 5 days, like here's the core moves to get started with so you don't have to worry about the 100+ other ones. Anyways feedback appreciated so let me know what ya think
I would love to see guides for more characters, but maybe for really long ones like this stick to the characters you really enjoy and can reasonably make a giant guide for. I think making like a 10-15 minute vid for a characters 10 or 15 moves for most or all of the characters would be AMAZING. And hopefully not too much of a work load
@@rainer9931 man, long? this is legitimately a shorter guide from me. There's so much I didn't put in here. Do you have any idea how many hour long character videos ive made over the years lol
Hey are you going to make a guide for every character, or just some of them? If you do make one for every character, in what order would you release them? Also, I like the top 10 moves format idea
I only have a few things I would add that didn't get covered but I find useful: -Muscle Armor (d/b+1+2) is one of the best power crushes in the game. It's optional whether you do the 2 attack out of it so you can just do the first part without risking them blocking and punishing. And they couldn't punish if they wanted to because the 2 coming out of it hits mid and is -9 on block and shifts into an unbreakable 38 damage throw on normal hit. Depending on what you armor through, you can opt to not do the canned follow-up and instead come out of it with a launcher or throw, which can be guaranteed depending on the recovery of the attack you just armored. This was funny to omit because during the Toll Kick explanation @rooflemonger mentions that there are very, very few safe power crushes in the game - that's true and King happens to have one of them. -King has another amazing frame advantage move with f,f,n+1+2. This is a 9f mid that's 0 on block, +7 on hit, and +18 on CH. It doesn't do damage on its own, but it is so fast that it beats most things. On hit with +7 it's your turn to do pretty much any follow-up you want. On a CH with that +18 advantage, f+2,1 is guaranteed and heat engages into a full juggle combo. It mixes up with his f,f,n+2 low as well if they start blocking that. -He has a chain grab off sidestep, SS+2+4. This on its own is not generally useful because it's the same as his d/f+2+4 chain throw and always is the 2 break version. What IS useful is that if you hold back you cancel the throw and just get this massive sidestep that ALSO is crouching the entire time. It's bonkers good for repositioning in a stage on a character that doesn't seem like he has a ton of fast movement. Probably the best lateral reposition move in the game. Since it's crouching it also avoids high homing attacks and more critically throws. -He has a chain grab out of Jaguar Step, 1+4 or 2+3. It comes out at 12f (which is a great mix-up with the 11f mid option) and has a 1 or 2 break guessing game (both grabs look identical) that leads into his actual highest damage chain throw, even better even than RDC. It ends in Screwdriver which is Armor King's old finisher throw (it's basically a SPD) and if you get the whole thing off it does 116 damage. The entire chain is a series of 1 or 2 breaks, along with a 1+2 break option in the middle (that finishes it early with a whopping 93 damage). Unlike RDC, it's a true guessing game - there's no memorization which you can always avoid the option by knowing to break 2 in the end. Plus the first follow-up throw after the initial grab is unbreakable, so you're always going to get at least 32 damage off of it. In my opinion it's the best High option out of Jaguar Step by far since it's 12 frames, homing (all throws hit sidestep), and effectively safe - they either take a load of damage or break it, and if they break it you're at -3 and they honestly are going to be disoriented because the animation is wonky and it rapidly switches sides - if you recognize the break is happening and throw immediately afterwards it very often can catch them unaware. One advantage is that as the King player you will recognize the animation and know they broke the throw faster than the opponent, and have more time to prepare an immediate response.
Other good notes yep! I forced myself to pick 10 moves specifically to keep the guide "brief" so I went with basically if you can only pick 10, those are the 10 i'd pick. The game being the game though, obviously there is indeed so much more
Could you actually explain the timing for the ss2+4 cancel? I'm still having a hard time getting it on purpose. When do I hold back? Before or after 2+4?
@@BobtheX It's after. You can tap or even hold back right after you input the 2+4 and you shouldn't have the throw come out at the end. The 2+4 you can do at almost any point within the sidestep and get that extra movement. If you do it immediately after letting go of the u or d you will not even see the sidestep, or you can delay and do it right as the sidestep ends, which gives you a massive amount of lateral movement. One nasty trick is that you can actually buffer GS into the sidestep cancel. Do the SS+2+4, and you can buffer the f input, and then do the hcf+1. The b from the hcf should cancel the normal throw and GS will come out instead. Unlike a lot of cancels that often have a bit of recovery time before the move comes out, this has practically none. If anything the GS at 10f comes out faster than if you hadn't cancelled at all and just let the 2+4 chain throw happen. You can do the same thing to buffer muscle buster - if you time the qcb+1+2, the b input from the qcb will do the cancel and muscle buster will come out instead. This now gives you a full 1, 2, 1+2 mixup out of the sidestep - not bad! I guarantee this will catch some people unaware - anybody who "knows" the matchup knows it's the 2 chain throw that comes out of sidestep, except it doesn't have to be. Good luck with the practicing - you'll get the timings down if you keep at it!
@@rooflemonger Absolutely! I love your videos and loved seeing my main man featured in the very first guide! I always figure the comments are a good place to add some of the nitty gritty extra stuff that aren't going to make the cut into a video that already is over 40 minutes long and packed with solid info. If I had a request I think a guide on the wall system would be incredible. The interactions between when you get a splat you can follow-up and when they simply gain invuln until they hit the ground is very unclear. Some chains land a full combo against the wall while others just drop in the middle for no apparent reason. And if you get off-axis side splats it feels like a crapshoot on what you can convert those into. And that's just the normal walls - the exploding walls and breakable walls do their own things as well.
Please include a more in depth demonstration on the button inputs. Not a very starter friendly video if I have to read input letters I don’t understand
Good video, thanks Roofle! HOWEVER, if you are truly a beginner in Tekken 8, I would basically ignore all combos shown as they're far too complex. For the U/F 4 Launcher, simply do 4 -> B3 -> FFF 2+4 (the run grab). It does 60+ damage and is extremely easy to input. For the D/F+2 punish -> it's just B3 -> FFF 2+4, does 65 damage or something. So you lose a minimum amount of damage but have no execution at all to worry about which is important, especially when you're still getting used to the game itself. The damage scaling is so big that long combos are barely worth it, especially when you can't even control your character yet. Just my 2 cents as a complete Tekken noob who has exp in other FGs. My feedback would be to include easier beginner combos as well for the next character guides. Hope this doesn't come off as too harsh because I still enjoyed the video a lot. Have a good one.
It's not just the work you put into articulating what you show, but also how you filter the huge options into what's essential -- all done with the Rooflemonger flair. Easily my fave fighting game TH-camr. Can't wait for the next guides, especially the Paul guide! 💪🏽
lol just got the game yesterday been trying basically the whole cast didn’t expect to like king as much as I do this guide is timely and much appreciated 🙏
I really appreciate all the time put into guides like this. Especially the optimal vs practical combo routes for things that may be too hard to go for in a high pressure moment.
I must say Shermie from KOF, Jax from MK(who should have been playable in that wretchet MK1, just a side note), Goro from MK and Reiko from MK are the only grapplers are I like and play....this archetype is just not for me, this and zoners
You know what would be really useful? A video about defensive mechanics in tekken because it's by far the hardest thing to learn in this game... the ammount of people who get screwed because they don't know how to wake up properly or just to not mash is huge.
@@condorgaming4000 Honestly, I can do a lot of cheap, guaranteed damage with Lilly and the same applies to almost every character. My problem with King is that it takes forever for these throw animations. It's so boring. If you mash the right buttons even randomly, their whole game plan falls apart. Any King player sweats profusely if you break even a single throw. See how fast they start trying to abuse armor and that's when you steamroll them.
10:40 if anyone is interested in a tip, you can bind 1+2 to a bumper so you can easily tap them when hitting the mid kick or power crush to make the follow up easier
A tip for the crouching df2 combo at 35:00: I personally struggle with the beast step version you showed, but this route offers the same exact damage with easier execution in my opinion: c.df2, f3, df43, b12, run 2+4. Still 70 damage but without the beast step input which some may struggle with consistently.
Tysm for this comprehensive starter guide. I have been learning on Victor and my heart is with King so I want to swap earlier than later and this really helped! Gives me some moves to start focusing on :)
King the hypest Catcher/Luchador to play in fighting game . ( At the moment i watch the video and as a noob whit King i take tips for play him better and anoying my friend whit ).
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! This is what I have been looking for King, I am a 100% noob when it comes to Tekken and wanted to play since T7, this will help me a lot. Keep this type of content coming my man, my best wishes to you and all your loved ones.
Great content man! A lot of the tekken guides are super fast, they don’t put the moves up all the time. This was very well paced. Provided new players with a lot of options. Thank you Just subscribed to your channel. Have a good day!
@@rooflemonger No pressure! Just wanted to say thank you for the awesome content you put out. You're one of my favorite FGC content creators and your guides have helped me immensely as someone who's just started playing fighting games.
I wish that the throwing rules were the same as it is in Virtua fighter, where strikes beat throws Then, King would be tolerable fighting king is such a chore
Well like everything, tekken would be much better if it was virtua fighter instead. Tekken 8's main changes all made it more like VF, although its not quite there yet
@@rooflemonger Interesting u say dat, cuz 🤔 others have mentioned they'd love to have a VF character like Akira have an appearance n Tekken... i was like nawh to dat....but now im curious cuz tekken 8 is strong, but having played Vf5 extensively...tekken 8 shortcomings r showing through. Akuma works but akuma to me is too meta, should of choose someone mo generically street fighter, to test the concept, despite that, it worked sorta Would puting Akira in, nerf the game or buff d game? Or would putting Akira n da game, nerf Akira or buff Akira 🤔? Or even break da game 🎮?
Funny not so funny story… 3XOG here… haven’t played since the first Tekken Tag… you used to have to press crazy inputs for Kings chain throws… I remember Tekken 2 it was dang near impossible … but that is how I remember the inputs… fast fwd many moons later and I teach an after school program where we get Tekken 8 and we use it to teach STEM (frame data/helps w math etc) well we get it at launch and I get my tried n true main King and sure enough the chain throws still work… im furiously mashing inputs that are stamped in my brain still some 25 years later… well let’s just say this ain’t ya daddy’s Tekken n I still got creamed by the kids… so programming is over… im like… im gonna learn how to play this… I used to pretty good when I was a kid n this is before the internet when u had to learn combos at the arcade (Tekken 1 days) …. Anywho I go to the move list and low and behold all you have to do now is press ONE BUTTON to continue the chain throws! 🤯 needless to say im in the lab kids… and they don’t know I watch your channel… so ITS ON NOW KIDS!
Love me some King, he has cool moves, but he’s no Wolf Hawkfield with all his golden years of AJPW & NOAH moves. King may have the fame, but Wolf has better taste in wrestling
Just got this game, i am gonna master king and destroy my friend whos been playing since day 1 and got collectors edition !! NEVER FELT SOO MOTIVATED ! CHEERS !! HE WILL KNOW PAIN
@rooflemonger Hey, I know it's too late for this guide but after taking the advice from your "Special Style" guide it might be worth it in future guides to look at what some ridiculous special style moves are available for the characters. King for example can, for who knows what reason, do his f,f,n+2 low as a special style move. Except it comes out faster than it possibly could using the normal input. I consider myself to be fairly fast, iWR Shining Wizards and all of that, but a f,f,n input manually is still around 7-10 frames, and it is always going to telegraph a little bit because you'll have at least a small forward movement before the move comes out. SpS+4 though? It is 1f execution and you just do the move from standing with no forward dash at all. It's not like the EWGF example you had where technically the best player in the world could outperform the SpS version because they put some intentional "lag" into the execution - with this you can plink the SpS version and do it in less frames than the normal input should allow. You can even do impossible stuff like having the move come out immediately from a backwards Jaguar Step. Since like Shining Wizard the move is supposed to require having at least part of a dash animation happen no matter how fast you execute it, this normally can't be buffered so this should be impossible. With SpS+f+1 he gets his WR 3 but without starting a run. This is a 20f mid that is +3 on block and travels so far forwards that it hits from around range 3 (it's supposed to be a WR move after all). It's similar to his u/f3+4 power crush in distance but instead of being unsafe on block it gives frame advantage on block. On hit it combos into a ground throw (timing is very precise on this). One very odd thing I'm noticing about SpS moves is that it doesn't seem like you can buffer out of them if they are executed the SpS way. I can buffer a GS off of f,f,n+2 easily and cannot do it with the SpS version at all. The SpS moves otherwise have identical properties and frame data of the normal move, just this one key difference in buffering. The execution of follow-up attacks is harder this way without the buffer, because if I want to use that +7f of advantage to beat a jab with my 15f hop kick I need very precise execution, but it's still doable. Anyways, I would not have found this stuff if not for your special style video, so thanks for that! I can absolute find ways to incorporate this into my play, so this is great!
For anyone trying to get the Full crouch DF2 combo on P2 (I use lever-less so cd is relatively hard on p2 for me) you can just do: Full Crouch df2, f2+4, WhileRunning 2+4. It's 67 damage and its good enough for me lol
I’m new to fighting games and I followed your guide + phidx‘s basic tutorials and I hit red ranks in 3 days lmao, king carries so easy through low levels, people just don’t know what to do.
Here we are with your King Guide for Tekken 8! Do you feel the need to grab someone and smash them into dust? Probably the right character for it! So lets give you an overview on what you need to look out for with the character, priority moves, example strategies, understanding core mechanics, and some bread & butter combos to top it off. So give a watch, like if ya liked it, and lemme know what you think!
Hi roofle! I've been curious about King and I've been considering learning him. But I've already decided on maining Reina. Around what point in time do you think it's best to pick up a second character as a relative noob?
Thanks!!!
Hey man you might want to check the tags for this video, it doesn't show up if I look up "King Guide Tekken 8" it only appears if I specifically put your name in the search
Jin guide, please
Thank you so much for ur guide but I've always been confused about the 1234 as the buttons in translation to playing on Xbox, how would the 1,2,3,4 translate for a,b,x,y buttons
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I like to believe you timed this with the chaos going on with WrestleMania and a certain celebrity
Cody gets his at the end of this video, he ain't finishing any stories while I am around
@@rooflemonger unsubbed. leave cody alone.
@@MT-or3kz cody screwed cody
@@MT-or3kzgoodbye. We don’t need you.
@@rooflemongeragreed. Cody’s worst enemy is Cody. Same with Punk.
King main since T3, and I'm so happy with him in T8! Thanks for giving the true King of iron fist attention for your first guide. I think a lot of players will have a lot of fun learning the character, and I'd daresay he's never been better given how ridiculously strong throws are in T8 compared to prior Tekkens.
The best King guide on TH-cam! Thank you!
Finished watching the beginners guide last night and then I wake up to a new video🤦♂️. The consistency is baffling , kudos to you roofleKing 👑 best to ever do it .
Just wanna thank you for being the first king guide that has buttons on the side so I actually know how to perform half these moves lmao.
Hey Everyone, if you're struggling on the DF2 into beast step Combo at 35:00, you can try a different route, (Full Crouch df2, 4, df43, b12, run 2+4) which will end up doing 72 damage (without blue sparks) instead, and it's FAR easier.
Full Crouch df2, ff1, df43, b12, run 2+4 also works, same damage. :)
A thing you missed from the chain grab part.
You can buffer inputs: if you press 1 and hold it and then press 3 the input will be 1, 1+3.
For the arm breaker chain: 2, 1, 1+3. It can be done like this: 2, 1 (keep holding 1), 3. Its also like a rolling motion, press 2 and roll 1>3 and it will come out 100% of times.
I always do it this way and find it easier, other chains have different motions but you have to try them out.
If you played Gief in SF, do the Giant Swing using a reverse 360 motion if you struggle with forward into half-circle.
You can play with the buffer window a lot more in t8 than SF, find the motion that suits you better for some grabs.
Dude… I committed to King main this morning after playing around with many characters. Literally looked on TH-cam for a king guide and nothing was worthwhile. Lo and behold I just needed to wait another hour or two
Good move to start with is 121,2+3, im not a king player but i find that pretty effective, grab always lands until they start predicting it
Also a mixup i like is spamming ↘️2+3 to condition them to only block low, then adding on the mid to it randomly, can combo off it. Its also just hilarious when they never adapt and cant get up.
@@Zachebi don't do the jab string grab since it's always a 2 break and predictable. also i guess both times you meant 2+4 instead of 2+3? if so then also please stop using the DF2+4 chaingrabs they are just inferior to wavu grabs in every way. if you actually meant the 2+3 knee bash then i'd recommend using the tombstone as your go to 2 throw. 13 more dmg, 11f instead of 12f and it groundbreaks. keep it up and honest king
@@Daylen151 okay yeah i think the ps controller scheme may have confused me, when i say 3 i mean O and 4 i mean X is that right
@@Daylen151 on nina i’ve got a mixup for the grabs if they start teching, i can literally do it all round unless they start dealing with the actual jabs
brand new to Tekken and after playing a more "honest" character in Street Fighter I really wanted to feel the gratification of cheesing people in this game. Thanks to this video, I only needed to spend 30 minutes in training mode to start having a ton of casual fun online. Buffered spin grab off of jab, the kick launcher BnB and the easy chain grab alone have been helping me mow through the early ranks 🤣
I wanna learn Kazuya eventually but King is FUN as a newbie. Although it feels like I'm cheating it really helped me understand the fun of Tekken while getting a feel for when it's my turn.
I really recommend anyone fretting over who to commit to just to try him out for an evening for a quick pass to a good time. Thanks for the great video! 🙏
Just getting back into tekken after about a 10 year break. Dude you’re amazing! Thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. Beyond helpful
Cant wait for AK being added, so far King is what we have. Great guide, some cool combos, thank you :)
Super fun and welldone viddy~ the slowdown transitions to more clearly show the individual hits to the combos was very nice
Thanks for all the Tekken content, pls do Jin too. He's very solid in this game.
Actually one of the best guides for King i've seen. I've leveled my King game to such a degree from just watching this one vid that i'm starting to think it's fucked that I didn't pay you for this video. Genuinely great teacher.
Hi Roof,
In the days of Tekken 2 King was my second favourite character but I stopped playing Tekken after that. Mainly because I prefer 2D fighting games, but I am really considering buying this Tekken 8 because I think I would have allot of fun with King, and also because your guide has explained how to use the character so well. I have said this before and will most likely say it again, but nobody and I mean nobody does character fighting guides like you.
as a king main, i welcome this
Never change that intro rooflemonger its golden
Wow makes me really gotta be careful against king. Can't wait for the Jin n Jun guides looking foward to these future vids!
As expected the first character guide for the fighting game will be one of the big boys! I main Marshall Law, but I still love the big boy characters, and King is certainly a lot of fun. I'll happy start practicing him and throw punish those armor moves. >:3
Yes my man! Good shit my guy! I'm so bad at this game but it's fun
Possibly a reina guide next? She looks absolutely amazing
more in time, not sure who is next
At 3:43 for anyone trying to find the move "Shining Wizard" in the move list it's #126 Tomahawk in-game, I'm not sure why it goes by two names
It's called tomahawk in game but the actual move is the shining wizard and has been for 30 some years. Not calling it it's fake tekken name lol
@@rooflemongerThat's cool man, thought I'd leave this here for anyone trying to learn that might get confused by the names, but since you're here you put Tombstone at 4:48 as 3 + 4, it's 2 + 4
Thanks for this dude !!! Been waiting for your videos broski thanks a bunch
Hey @rooflemonger , can you please do Kuma as one of the next guides because there are 0 guides on him?
the bears will be sooner rather than later im sure
Excellent guide, dude! For any new players that want to listen to an old tekkenhead (playing King since 97') on some advice- play King. Even if he won't be your main, play him anyways specifically because he'll teach you several fundamentals for higher level play.
King is extremely weak to fuzzy guarding. His grabs come out faster than the attacks he wants to mix you up with, so you can duck grabs, stand up from a crouch, if he's going for a low grab, + block his mids... then still get a chance for a grab break. So King players have to learn a few things.
King teaches you how to condition your opponent. If you've never played against a brick wall of an opponent, you will... and when you're unable to move like a Mishima or attack as fast as the lighter cast, it becomes very very apparent you cannot just box people let alone get your hands on them to grapple. As Rooflemonger says, his lows aren't great, but they're tools to force your opponent to get out of their comfort zone. A very, "Start crouching or I'll break your ankles" mentality.
And most importantly, King teaches you how to get inside your opponents head. This will apply to every character moving forward. Tekken operates with the idea that you cannot just rely on your "safe" moves forever because there are so few of them. You have to take gambles to open up higher level players, and now that there is chip damage on top of a 60 second timer... blocking and waiting for that perfect strike is going to come far less often than if you're making proper reads at every opportune moment. Every high attack is an opportunity for a crouch. Every low is a chance to parry or jump punish. And these reads won't come from counting frames.
Go play King.
I struggle so much to get rolling death cradle on a control pad. On a stick, it's pretty easy, but the buttons on a control pad are not made for that move. And I don't key bind and I rarely play with a stick.
😮........King might be my 2nd character to learn when I'm done with the French John Wick.
Big bro Roofle i need that Jack 8 tech 😢😢😢
As a brand new tekken player who chose King, I am forever in your debt 😭
Hi man, im a bit late but can you do a guide on how to deal with pressure heavy characters? I know King plays on neutral but I struggle with him, especially in tekkne 8 where so many hit confirms and heat damage, the pressure is immense from characters such as Jin, Devil Jin, Kazuya's broken low string, Dragonuv strings etc. I struggle against string heavy characters and I do interrupt and duck them sometimes and then while standing 4 or iws22 to punish their whiffs, but when they are in heat, they just go ham and I cant deal wiht the pressure. Can you do a guide on that?
Hey Roofle what are your thoughts on Cody potentially not finishing the story in favor of the Rock?
There's my boy, lets go!
Please do Reina
Could you please do dragunov next
Thanks
How do you do the microdash for the combo after df2, 1? I've been trying for an hour and can't seem to physically do it that fast. Is there some trick to it?
thanks homie im using this just so i dont get my ass beat by kings and understand whats going on lol
Steve next please
No idea whose next, but these should start appearing at a fairly regular pace for the next little bit
Can someone help me understand at 37:33. He mentions you have to microdash to get the df4,3 to connect on smaller/female characters, but I just cannot get it to work :(
the df21 combo straight up doestn work on certain characters and is also WILDLY inconsitent on some.
Can anyone help with side stepping moves. I can do every move in the game, kings swing I can do kazuya electric uppercut but I can’t do a side step uppercut. Iv got no idea what’s going wrong. I’m side stepping and doing 2 and I’m just not getting the move to come out as it should. Specifically it’s devil Jin side step uppercut. What’s the deal?
Why do I like one of the hardest characters in the game (reina, dj) while king seems so easy, im just a casual tekken enjoyer😂. Still... watching an expert guide on beginner character feel little overwhelming.
ITS HERE
Could use a Lili guide 🙋♂️
King mains don't accept rematches when they lose lol
Ok first Tekken 8 character guide, and yes, more to come! Let me know what you think about the format! Keeping the "starter guide" idea from MK1, giving you the core info you need to know without going into every single move making the video 2 hours long, core strats, bnb combos, and do you like the "top 10 moves" format idea? Its how we used to sorta break down 3d games back in the vf4/tekken 5 days, like here's the core moves to get started with so you don't have to worry about the 100+ other ones. Anyways feedback appreciated so let me know what ya think
do reina
I would love to see guides for more characters, but maybe for really long ones like this stick to the characters you really enjoy and can reasonably make a giant guide for. I think making like a 10-15 minute vid for a characters 10 or 15 moves for most or all of the characters would be AMAZING. And hopefully not too much of a work load
@@rainer9931 man, long? this is legitimately a shorter guide from me. There's so much I didn't put in here. Do you have any idea how many hour long character videos ive made over the years lol
Lars guide please
Hey are you going to make a guide for every character, or just some of them? If you do make one for every character, in what order would you release them?
Also, I like the top 10 moves format idea
I only have a few things I would add that didn't get covered but I find useful:
-Muscle Armor (d/b+1+2) is one of the best power crushes in the game. It's optional whether you do the 2 attack out of it so you can just do the first part without risking them blocking and punishing. And they couldn't punish if they wanted to because the 2 coming out of it hits mid and is -9 on block and shifts into an unbreakable 38 damage throw on normal hit. Depending on what you armor through, you can opt to not do the canned follow-up and instead come out of it with a launcher or throw, which can be guaranteed depending on the recovery of the attack you just armored. This was funny to omit because during the Toll Kick explanation @rooflemonger mentions that there are very, very few safe power crushes in the game - that's true and King happens to have one of them.
-King has another amazing frame advantage move with f,f,n+1+2. This is a 9f mid that's 0 on block, +7 on hit, and +18 on CH. It doesn't do damage on its own, but it is so fast that it beats most things. On hit with +7 it's your turn to do pretty much any follow-up you want. On a CH with that +18 advantage, f+2,1 is guaranteed and heat engages into a full juggle combo. It mixes up with his f,f,n+2 low as well if they start blocking that.
-He has a chain grab off sidestep, SS+2+4. This on its own is not generally useful because it's the same as his d/f+2+4 chain throw and always is the 2 break version. What IS useful is that if you hold back you cancel the throw and just get this massive sidestep that ALSO is crouching the entire time. It's bonkers good for repositioning in a stage on a character that doesn't seem like he has a ton of fast movement. Probably the best lateral reposition move in the game. Since it's crouching it also avoids high homing attacks and more critically throws.
-He has a chain grab out of Jaguar Step, 1+4 or 2+3. It comes out at 12f (which is a great mix-up with the 11f mid option) and has a 1 or 2 break guessing game (both grabs look identical) that leads into his actual highest damage chain throw, even better even than RDC. It ends in Screwdriver which is Armor King's old finisher throw (it's basically a SPD) and if you get the whole thing off it does 116 damage. The entire chain is a series of 1 or 2 breaks, along with a 1+2 break option in the middle (that finishes it early with a whopping 93 damage). Unlike RDC, it's a true guessing game - there's no memorization which you can always avoid the option by knowing to break 2 in the end. Plus the first follow-up throw after the initial grab is unbreakable, so you're always going to get at least 32 damage off of it. In my opinion it's the best High option out of Jaguar Step by far since it's 12 frames, homing (all throws hit sidestep), and effectively safe - they either take a load of damage or break it, and if they break it you're at -3 and they honestly are going to be disoriented because the animation is wonky and it rapidly switches sides - if you recognize the break is happening and throw immediately afterwards it very often can catch them unaware. One advantage is that as the King player you will recognize the animation and know they broke the throw faster than the opponent, and have more time to prepare an immediate response.
Thanks for explaining the side step cancel, I was trying to figure out how to do that
Other good notes yep! I forced myself to pick 10 moves specifically to keep the guide "brief" so I went with basically if you can only pick 10, those are the 10 i'd pick. The game being the game though, obviously there is indeed so much more
Could you actually explain the timing for the ss2+4 cancel? I'm still having a hard time getting it on purpose. When do I hold back? Before or after 2+4?
@@BobtheX It's after. You can tap or even hold back right after you input the 2+4 and you shouldn't have the throw come out at the end. The 2+4 you can do at almost any point within the sidestep and get that extra movement. If you do it immediately after letting go of the u or d you will not even see the sidestep, or you can delay and do it right as the sidestep ends, which gives you a massive amount of lateral movement.
One nasty trick is that you can actually buffer GS into the sidestep cancel. Do the SS+2+4, and you can buffer the f input, and then do the hcf+1. The b from the hcf should cancel the normal throw and GS will come out instead. Unlike a lot of cancels that often have a bit of recovery time before the move comes out, this has practically none. If anything the GS at 10f comes out faster than if you hadn't cancelled at all and just let the 2+4 chain throw happen. You can do the same thing to buffer muscle buster - if you time the qcb+1+2, the b input from the qcb will do the cancel and muscle buster will come out instead. This now gives you a full 1, 2, 1+2 mixup out of the sidestep - not bad! I guarantee this will catch some people unaware - anybody who "knows" the matchup knows it's the 2 chain throw that comes out of sidestep, except it doesn't have to be.
Good luck with the practicing - you'll get the timings down if you keep at it!
@@rooflemonger Absolutely! I love your videos and loved seeing my main man featured in the very first guide! I always figure the comments are a good place to add some of the nitty gritty extra stuff that aren't going to make the cut into a video that already is over 40 minutes long and packed with solid info. If I had a request I think a guide on the wall system would be incredible. The interactions between when you get a splat you can follow-up and when they simply gain invuln until they hit the ground is very unclear. Some chains land a full combo against the wall while others just drop in the middle for no apparent reason. And if you get off-axis side splats it feels like a crapshoot on what you can convert those into. And that's just the normal walls - the exploding walls and breakable walls do their own things as well.
Thanks! Will send this to my friend DSPgaming who mains King.
He's struggling with combo dropping and players teching his throws
im sure he will work at it and persevere through any hardships
Lol
Most watchable guides in the FGC, hands down.
Agreed
Agree. I don't even play some of these games and I still watch them cuz I'm interested in the characters
what is that you do when you preeas the 4 buttons? good video btw i hope you get us steve necth one
@@kevinswastedyour name is ironic cause you sound wasted when you type.😂
Yep this or blasted salami
I can't choose a main until my guy makes a guide. Today is gonna be a good day.
Please include a more in depth demonstration on the button inputs. Not a very starter friendly video if I have to read input letters I don’t understand
Quick trick for king chain grabs... Memorize the input for muscle buster, you can keep doing that input for enhanced damage
You can bind a button to all four face buttons and get that too
I don’t play King but I’m definitely gonna need to watch this lol (do I really need to explain why?)
Good video, thanks Roofle! HOWEVER, if you are truly a beginner in Tekken 8, I would basically ignore all combos shown as they're far too complex. For the U/F 4 Launcher, simply do 4 -> B3 -> FFF 2+4 (the run grab). It does 60+ damage and is extremely easy to input. For the D/F+2 punish -> it's just B3 -> FFF 2+4, does 65 damage or something. So you lose a minimum amount of damage but have no execution at all to worry about which is important, especially when you're still getting used to the game itself. The damage scaling is so big that long combos are barely worth it, especially when you can't even control your character yet.
Just my 2 cents as a complete Tekken noob who has exp in other FGs. My feedback would be to include easier beginner combos as well for the next character guides. Hope this doesn't come off as too harsh because I still enjoyed the video a lot. Have a good one.
It's not just the work you put into articulating what you show, but also how you filter the huge options into what's essential -- all done with the Rooflemonger flair. Easily my fave fighting game TH-camr. Can't wait for the next guides, especially the Paul guide! 💪🏽
🙏
King won a Olympic gold medal with a broken freakin' neck!
lol just got the game yesterday been trying basically the whole cast didn’t expect to like king as much as I do this guide is timely and much appreciated 🙏
I really appreciate all the time put into guides like this. Especially the optimal vs practical combo routes for things that may be too hard to go for in a high pressure moment.
I must say Shermie from KOF, Jax from MK(who should have been playable in that wretchet MK1, just a side note), Goro from MK and Reiko from MK are the only grapplers are I like and play....this archetype is just not for me, this and zoners
Thank you for helping out a Tekken newbie and a fellow grappler fan!
Thank you very much for the support!
I cant seem to connect the df.2,1 into df.4,3 with small characters like reina but i see other kings do it. Any tips?
As a Cody Rhodes fan it would have been cool to see King have his own take on the Cross Rhodes
As a cody rhodes non fan I buried cody at the end of this video 🙊
Would love to see a Steve one
You know what would be really useful? A video about defensive mechanics in tekken because it's by far the hardest thing to learn in this game... the ammount of people who get screwed because they don't know how to wake up properly or just to not mash is huge.
I completely agree!! All this offense is nothing without a solid defense!
You a demon for making a King guide. I was just looking up anti-king guides yesterday...
I'm watching this guide just to know how to defeat King.
I found my people
Same. I literally got beat by an infinite grapple. Took me from 80% to 0
@@condorgaming4000 Honestly, I can do a lot of cheap, guaranteed damage with Lilly and the same applies to almost every character. My problem with King is that it takes forever for these throw animations. It's so boring. If you mash the right buttons even randomly, their whole game plan falls apart. Any King player sweats profusely if you break even a single throw. See how fast they start trying to abuse armor and that's when you steamroll them.
10:40 if anyone is interested in a tip, you can bind 1+2 to a bumper so you can easily tap them when hitting the mid kick or power crush to make the follow up easier
A tip for the crouching df2 combo at 35:00: I personally struggle with the beast step version you showed, but this route offers the same exact damage with easier execution in my opinion: c.df2, f3, df43, b12, run 2+4. Still 70 damage but without the beast step input which some may struggle with consistently.
PLEASE PAUL NEXT
No idea whose next, but these should start appearing at a fairly regular pace for the next little bit
Tysm for this comprehensive starter guide. I have been learning on Victor and my heart is with King so I want to swap earlier than later and this really helped! Gives me some moves to start focusing on :)
So if I watch this I’ll be as good as lil majin right o.o
legally I can't say yes, but yes
I am just waiting for all the big boy tutorials
I love you so much rooflemonger. I want to learn King so much, and never found a good tutorial
Do Nina next please
1:46 A-1 perc Angle reference
The broken freaking neck comment while doing the angle slam earned you a like and a new subscriber.
Many wont get it lol
King the hypest Catcher/Luchador to play in fighting game .
( At the moment i watch the video and as a noob whit King i take tips for play him better and anoying my friend whit ).
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
This is what I have been looking for King, I am a 100% noob when it comes to Tekken and wanted to play since T7, this will help me a lot.
Keep this type of content coming my man, my best wishes to you and all your loved ones.
Great content man! A lot of the tekken guides are super fast, they don’t put the moves up all the time. This was very well paced. Provided new players with a lot of options.
Thank you
Just subscribed to your channel. Have a good day!
I Am a new king player stuck in destroyer and this guide helped me a ton!
This video rocks, came just in time to reignite the Luchador spark in me
DUDE ROOF U ARE THE GOAT
really appreciate your editing and presentation, made a long and dense video very digestable. Great guide as well 👍 ❤
I haven't played Tekken since Tekken 1,2 and 3.This game is great.Thanks for the great vids man.
Format poggers n goot. Asuka next plssss
YES
KNOWLEDGE FOR MY MAIN
Thank you for the teachings Roofle, time to grab more fools!
Please do a guide for Steve Fox. He's very unique but also quite complex for a newbie like me.
more will come, no idea who is next though, sleep first
@@rooflemonger No pressure! Just wanted to say thank you for the awesome content you put out. You're one of my favorite FGC content creators and your guides have helped me immensely as someone who's just started playing fighting games.
You sound like Chef John from Food Wishes. Instead of teaching me delicious recipes, you teach me nasty combos. 😄
Thanks dad
I wish that the throwing rules were the same as it is in Virtua fighter, where strikes beat throws
Then, King would be tolerable
fighting king is such a chore
Well like everything, tekken would be much better if it was virtua fighter instead. Tekken 8's main changes all made it more like VF, although its not quite there yet
@@rooflemonger
Interesting u say dat, cuz 🤔 others have mentioned they'd love to have a VF character like Akira have an appearance n Tekken... i was like nawh to dat....but now im curious cuz tekken 8 is strong, but having played Vf5 extensively...tekken 8 shortcomings r showing through.
Akuma works but akuma to me is too meta, should of choose someone mo generically street fighter, to test the concept, despite that, it worked sorta
Would puting Akira in, nerf the game or buff d game? Or would putting Akira n da game, nerf Akira or buff Akira 🤔? Or even break da game 🎮?
Funny not so funny story… 3XOG here… haven’t played since the first Tekken Tag… you used to have to press crazy inputs for Kings chain throws… I remember Tekken 2 it was dang near impossible … but that is how I remember the inputs… fast fwd many moons later and I teach an after school program where we get Tekken 8 and we use it to teach STEM (frame data/helps w math etc) well we get it at launch and I get my tried n true main King and sure enough the chain throws still work… im furiously mashing inputs that are stamped in my brain still some 25 years later… well let’s just say this ain’t ya daddy’s Tekken n I still got creamed by the kids… so programming is over… im like… im gonna learn how to play this… I used to pretty good when I was a kid n this is before the internet when u had to learn combos at the arcade (Tekken 1 days) …. Anywho I go to the move list and low and behold all you have to do now is press ONE BUTTON to continue the chain throws! 🤯 needless to say im in the lab kids… and they don’t know I watch your channel… so ITS ON NOW KIDS!
Love me some King, he has cool moves, but he’s no Wolf Hawkfield with all his golden years of AJPW & NOAH moves.
King may have the fame, but Wolf has better taste in wrestling
Yeah boi.
I watch Rooflemonger's vids bc they are great. I subbed bc he is a gentleman with a refined character palette.
suggestion: you could go to matches using just the 10 basic important moves you showed here!
Just got this game, i am gonna master king and destroy my friend whos been playing since day 1 and got collectors edition !!
NEVER FELT SOO MOTIVATED ! CHEERS !!
HE WILL KNOW PAIN
really need a beginners guide for dragunov, even though 90% of the community is already abusing his running 2
@rooflemonger Hey, I know it's too late for this guide but after taking the advice from your "Special Style" guide it might be worth it in future guides to look at what some ridiculous special style moves are available for the characters. King for example can, for who knows what reason, do his f,f,n+2 low as a special style move. Except it comes out faster than it possibly could using the normal input. I consider myself to be fairly fast, iWR Shining Wizards and all of that, but a f,f,n input manually is still around 7-10 frames, and it is always going to telegraph a little bit because you'll have at least a small forward movement before the move comes out. SpS+4 though? It is 1f execution and you just do the move from standing with no forward dash at all. It's not like the EWGF example you had where technically the best player in the world could outperform the SpS version because they put some intentional "lag" into the execution - with this you can plink the SpS version and do it in less frames than the normal input should allow. You can even do impossible stuff like having the move come out immediately from a backwards Jaguar Step. Since like Shining Wizard the move is supposed to require having at least part of a dash animation happen no matter how fast you execute it, this normally can't be buffered so this should be impossible.
With SpS+f+1 he gets his WR 3 but without starting a run. This is a 20f mid that is +3 on block and travels so far forwards that it hits from around range 3 (it's supposed to be a WR move after all). It's similar to his u/f3+4 power crush in distance but instead of being unsafe on block it gives frame advantage on block. On hit it combos into a ground throw (timing is very precise on this).
One very odd thing I'm noticing about SpS moves is that it doesn't seem like you can buffer out of them if they are executed the SpS way. I can buffer a GS off of f,f,n+2 easily and cannot do it with the SpS version at all. The SpS moves otherwise have identical properties and frame data of the normal move, just this one key difference in buffering. The execution of follow-up attacks is harder this way without the buffer, because if I want to use that +7f of advantage to beat a jab with my 15f hop kick I need very precise execution, but it's still doable.
Anyways, I would not have found this stuff if not for your special style video, so thanks for that! I can absolute find ways to incorporate this into my play, so this is great!
For anyone trying to get the Full crouch DF2 combo on P2 (I use lever-less so cd is relatively hard on p2 for me) you can just do: Full Crouch df2, f2+4, WhileRunning 2+4. It's 67 damage and its good enough for me lol
Here to learn how to counter King. 😆
usually a good side effect of my guides is you will learn how to play them, but also how to fight against them
I’m new to fighting games and I followed your guide + phidx‘s basic tutorials and I hit red ranks in 3 days lmao, king carries so easy through low levels, people just don’t know what to do.