I'd vote for the LH. The MG is better technically and finished better, but overall is a less cohesive package. The MG is too chunky for a time-only dress watch, and the hands are too spindly and don't pair well with the large 41mm diameter. The LH hands/numerals are perfectly paired, and the watch itself is perfectly sized for a dress watch.
I prefer the back of the LH due to it's bridge architecture, even if it's less well finished. But the dial side on the MG is just too good. I appreciate the screws vs spring bars but on a dress watch, I'm less worried abou those failing.
Absolutely fantastic. I had to stop the video to enjoy the detail at least 20 times. This is way out of my price range, but I'd be happy with either. The LH is definitely more wearable and more under the radar which is certainly an advantage for me. The MG is a touch nicer both front and back, but I would probably prefer it in steel.
Very interesting VS for me as I recently as the centerpiece of my collection decided between the Friedrich III and the tremblage in steel And in person it became easier for me as while I was impressed with the MG I was blown away by the LH Fit feel and finish IMO were all better The tremblage is super cool and artisanal but it didn't look "pretty" and has an unusual aesthetic for my personal taste The MG I want is the steel Benu with power reserve !
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
I have a slight preference for the Lang & Heyne, it's styling is a little more to my taste, but both are absolutely gorgeous watches. The M. Grossman does have a unique dial.
Hi Tim:) Last time you said that LH finish is one fo 3 best manufacturers in the world and now you choose MG ? I was wondering if MG is in this 3 you mentioned before?
@centrallyintelligentagency Personally, I'd say RR and FB are on that level, along with Roger Smith. I don't think Tim has reviewed any of them, though, which is probably why he doesn't mention them. I think Journe is half a step below them with the likes of Lange. What do you think?
@centrallyintelligentagency Totally fair. I'm less familiar with some of these watchmakers like RR and FB. I would also put Lange above Journe, if they are going to be in different tiers. I forgot to mention De Bethune, Tim ranks them up there as well.
aesthetics are a personal preference so if you like the asphalt look of the tremblage dial thats fine - its an acquired taste. Appearances aside, the MG case feels "tubby" and way too large for a basic 3 hander (read here: lazy case construction). The movement architecture on the L&H simply offers more views of the gear train while the bridge design appears artisanal rather than the simplistic grand scale in the MG. Just not a fan of using a random name from watch making history as the brand name - feels arbitrary. Karl M Grossmann might have been a superb watch maker but to just grab the name out of history feels imho very empty.
@@chia-mingyang5804 Since MG designed the movement, they had total control over the sizing over the movement and the case. It seems such an odd decision that MG chose such a thick movement/case for a time-only piece.
@@adiands850 It's time-only but it also has a huge balance wheel with overcoil and a big mainspring. They have made another much smaller movement(26mm in diameter and 3.45mm in thickness) for 36/37mm watches.
@@chia-mingyang5804 Such a large movement, with big mainspring, yet it only has a 42 hour power reserve. Still not sure why they made these technical design choices.
lol tell me you know very little without telling me. German movement architecture was set in stone long before Lange. Plus the finishing on these dumps all over any Lange thats not a top-tier complication
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MaMaCoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
That Moritz Grossmann release is special.
Love this "vs" review format!
I'd vote for the LH. The MG is better technically and finished better, but overall is a less cohesive package. The MG is too chunky for a time-only dress watch, and the hands are too spindly and don't pair well with the large 41mm diameter. The LH hands/numerals are perfectly paired, and the watch itself is perfectly sized for a dress watch.
I would agree with this. But my pick of them all would be the MG Benu 37. Exactly the right size, with all those incredible details.
@@johnnyguitar6697 Great call on the MG Benu 37. A shame that the logo got so much hate.
I prefer the back of the LH due to it's bridge architecture, even if it's less well finished. But the dial side on the MG is just too good. I appreciate the screws vs spring bars but on a dress watch, I'm less worried abou those failing.
Neither is any slouch but the Grossman does it for me. Absolute grail piece.
This is a criminal showdown😭
Just let 2 bad bitches be friends no need to compare these queens
*these two timepieces are spectacular*
Wonderful video Tim. Thank you.
I will take the L&H Friedrich but in the white dial variation.
Nice comparison - please do Patek 5326P vs A Lange & Sohne Lange 1 Perpetual.
Tim, a question;
Are the movements made of brass, or German silver?
I think MG uses German silver and L&H uses brass.
It’s a tough call which one I would take. Because I really like the blue on Lange, but I’d probably go with the steel M. Grossman.
Absolutely fantastic. I had to stop the video to enjoy the detail at least 20 times. This is way out of my price range, but I'd be happy with either. The LH is definitely more wearable and more under the radar which is certainly an advantage for me. The MG is a touch nicer both front and back, but I would probably prefer it in steel.
Morritz Grossman all the way.
Very interesting VS for me as I recently as the centerpiece of my collection decided between the Friedrich III and the tremblage in steel
And in person it became easier for me as while I was impressed with the MG I was blown away by the LH
Fit feel and finish IMO were all better
The tremblage is super cool and artisanal but it didn't look "pretty" and has an unusual aesthetic for my personal taste
The MG I want is the steel Benu with power reserve !
Wow what a comparison of one of the highest horology timepieces!
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
Both beautiful watches,would happily take either😊
I have a slight preference for the Lang & Heyne, it's styling is a little more to my taste, but both are absolutely gorgeous watches. The M. Grossman does have a unique dial.
Hi Tim:) Last time you said that LH finish is one fo 3 best manufacturers in the world and now you choose MG ? I was wondering if MG is in this 3 you mentioned before?
@centrallyintelligentagency As far as I can tell, he puts RG first, followed closely by PD, GF, LH and MG.
@centrallyintelligentagency I forgot about Voutilainen. He's in that group as well, according to him.
@centrallyintelligentagency Personally, I'd say RR and FB are on that level, along with Roger Smith. I don't think Tim has reviewed any of them, though, which is probably why he doesn't mention them. I think Journe is half a step below them with the likes of Lange. What do you think?
@centrallyintelligentagency Totally fair. I'm less familiar with some of these watchmakers like RR and FB. I would also put Lange above Journe, if they are going to be in different tiers. I forgot to mention De Bethune, Tim ranks them up there as well.
Probably the closest comparison you've ever done. For my money, it's the Moritz Grosmann, but only just. Both stunning watches.
I’ll take ‘em!
Love the L&H - that's my winner
At first glance I prefer the dial of the Lang, but in the end the Moritz is the superior watch here.
aesthetics are a personal preference so if you like the asphalt look of the tremblage dial thats fine - its an acquired taste. Appearances aside, the MG case feels "tubby" and way too large for a basic 3 hander (read here: lazy case construction). The movement architecture on the L&H simply offers more views of the gear train while the bridge design appears artisanal rather than the simplistic grand scale in the MG. Just not a fan of using a random name from watch making history as the brand name - feels arbitrary. Karl M Grossmann might have been a superb watch maker but to just grab the name out of history feels imho very empty.
MG can't use smaller case because this movement is big.
@@chia-mingyang5804 Since MG designed the movement, they had total control over the sizing over the movement and the case. It seems such an odd decision that MG chose such a thick movement/case for a time-only piece.
@@adiands850 It's time-only but it also has a huge balance wheel with overcoil and a big mainspring. They have made another much smaller movement(26mm in diameter and 3.45mm in thickness) for 36/37mm watches.
@@chia-mingyang5804 Such a large movement, with big mainspring, yet it only has a 42 hour power reserve. Still not sure why they made these technical design choices.
@@adiands850 I don't have the data, but I guess the huge balance wheel has a very high inertia to consume much energy.
Both are just completely over-engineered in the most wonderfully German way possible.
Great stuff !
❤❤❤❤
L&H gets my vote
Both for me Timmy.
I'm genuinely impressed with how close amzwatch were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
Love german watches , half of my collection is German.. i will add a MG one day
What a showdown‼️🔥🔥🔥
A very tough competition. The Friedrich III wins in wearability but the Tremblage wins in artisanal decorations and details.
Dial: MG
Movement: L&H
I can’t compliment MG enough for modernizing their logo. The new design is 😊
Is the logo modern though? It's a highly embelished serif font, which is a very old fashioned choice, i.e. is the opposite of modern.
MG . I just wish they would play with alternative hands over their range. The L&H looks too fussy and old fashioned for me
LH
Battle of the Lange cover bands
lol tell me you know very little without telling me. German movement architecture was set in stone long before Lange. Plus the finishing on these dumps all over any Lange thats not a top-tier complication
From the fatherland?
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MaMaCoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.