Hey everyone! Bit of a later upload today, took longer to edit this one than expected :) Hopefully after watching this, you'll do great on your argument analysis SAC or exam. And just a disclaimer for those politically inclined ;) - this video is not designed to represent my views on this topic - this was simply chosen because I had a sample essay for this article
Just a question, for the conclusion, what if the author switches between argument styles (going from analytical to condemning to sympathetic). How would you summarize the argument style as you said we're meant to do? Also, you spoke of what the study design wanted. Are these tips still valid for the 2024 study design?
It's really funny how I was watching you video and then I found out I'm from your old school. I thought, "Imagine if we had the same English teacher." The video was very helpful, btw!
Thank you this was really well made and made such a difference to my learning. I really appreciated that you explained how to do this essay whilst using an example, it gave me a lot more clarity. Keep it up!
Just to preface, section C structure is extremely flexible, so there is no right or wrong approach. I would only say from personal experience I liked mentioning the images and titles with the other text because it is easier to analyse them together (especially if they are about the same idea). This was why I separated my paragraphs based on IDEAS as opposed to TECHNIQUES (e.g. images, titles etc)
helpful video!! Do you also have a video on how to do an argument analysis with two texts + an image? (e.g. an article, a response letter with a visual). I find it hard to section my ideas into the body paragraphs. Thanks :)
Thank you! It may be helpful to look at my Comparative Text Response video - although that is text response, it is the same structure for argument analysis (rather than two texts, it is just two or more articles). I have a sample essay which has two texts + image here that I've analysed, bit of an old video but the content is still relevant: th-cam.com/video/FMrcmMil-EA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Julian this is an amazing viedo and honestly helps a lot but I was just wondering how were you able to finish this so quickly in the 1 hour time span of the three hour exam?
Thanks Aleena! First, I spent most of my reading time (~14mins) reading the article, and once writing time started I would quickly plan (~2 mins) all the quotes I was going to use. I typically used 3 main quotes per paragraph, so 9 in total for 3 paragraphs - and so I went through the article labelling all the quotes so I didn't have to go back and search for them during writing. Second, I memorised a lot of key sentence stems i.e. I had a template for the introduction that I used for all of my essays. You can find more info here: th-cam.com/video/ZYmi-ajAr9Y/w-d-xo.html Finally, I made sure to spend a maximum of 17mins per paragraph - if let's say I got to 15mins and still haven't finished one paragraph I knew I had to quickly conclude it. This way I was able to finish the essay on time. Hope this helps :)
great points, if there is no image, just remove the sentence, and either just end there OR as the above comment mentions - talk about something else 'visual' about the article.
There's no one size fits all rule in finding the contention - and different people may come up with different contentions but still be correct. My approach is to follow the structure: The author is arguing (x) because (y), and this has broader consequences of (z) Following this structure helped me identify the contention in most, if not all cases
Hey Julian thanks for putting this out but I was just wondering: 1. When you categorise your arguments as logical, sympathetic, condemning etc..., isn't that sort of redundant since I guess logic isn't really a category of argument? Like shouldn't a logical progression of thought be a prerequisite to any argument? So what does highlighting it's presence actually do? Also shouldn't evoking emotions like sympathy and condemnation be as a result of author positioning? I feel including it in the topic sentence also doesn't really do anything. I know you said it's for VCAA but do you have any idea what their reasoning behind this is? 2. Do you have any tips on how to structure your progression of argument? Because right now I feel my writing is quite disjointed, and it's not a very flowing piece in the way that each topic sentence is not a natural continuation of the previous? Would appreciate a reply :)
I found a lot of techniques for my first argument...how do i know which one to use in my body paragraph? My teacher says i incorporate too many tecniques in my essay, hence it gets really confusing. Let me know...
There's a great amount of flexibility with what techniques to use - I usually just go in chronological order and try to split up the article evening so I get an equal amount of techniques per paragraph (tip: if you feel like all the techniques relate to the first argument (i.e. first body paragraph), then the second body paragraph can just be you talking about "how the author continues on his argument" - that way you have a more even split. And if you are finding that you use too many, I would recommend just sticking to 3 core techniques for paragraph (so 3 x how what why)
Thank you! So the way you locate the main arguments varies - which is fine, you can write about different arguments and still get full marks. But as a general rule for how I would approach it: I usually always go chronologically because the author has structured their article that way for a reason. Then as you are going through, look for shifts in any or more of the following: target audience, tone, argument type, style of writing etc - and transitions between these can be used as a marker for a new argument And generally speaking, the first argument is usually something to do with contextualising the argument or increasing credibility, the second paragraph is about supporting their view with more logic and reason, and the final argument usually is a call to action. (just a general framework to look out for) Hope this helps!
Thanks - it is not necessarily to use techniques. Yes, they are a potential choice, but you can also just find any phrase that you find persuasive and talk about that. So basically don't be like 'this sentence is persuasive but it does not fall under the category of a traditional persuasive technique, and so I can't use it.' Remember that you are marked on how well you analyse how persuasive something is, rather than identifying techniques - so no it is not required
Hey Julian, thanks for this helpful vid! I was just curious what did you do during reading time of the English EOY exam? Also, for section C (argument analysis) which resources did you use to practice (i.e. VCAA, or other companies)?
Thank you! Yep I had a quite peak at section A and B, but focused mostly on reading the article for part C. I mainly used VCAA to practice (there's a lot to go through, even the 2002 article was quite good to do). Then I would do company ones e.g. insight etc. Now since I struggled with reading time and finding ideas, I went through a lot of company papers (10+) just doing the 15mins reading time (so don't feel like you have to do full practice essays each time). Hope this helps and all the best!
Hey everyone! Bit of a later upload today, took longer to edit this one than expected :) Hopefully after watching this, you'll do great on your argument analysis SAC or exam.
And just a disclaimer for those politically inclined ;)
- this video is not designed to represent my views on this topic - this was simply chosen because I had a sample essay for this article
Just a question, for the conclusion, what if the author switches between argument styles (going from analytical to condemning to sympathetic). How would you summarize the argument style as you said we're meant to do? Also, you spoke of what the study design wanted. Are these tips still valid for the 2024 study design?
Ironically, English is easily the hardest VCE subject. No calculations involved. No formulas to memorise. Just pure abstractness.
yes, but the large cohort makes it easier than other subjects to achieve a high study score.
wow! your videos are amazing, i wish i found them sooner !! they're so detailed, and unlike any other vce exam tips videos out there!! thanks so much!
Appreciate it!
Night before my english exam finna kill this shit currrrrrr. (I'm getting a 20 study score)
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Such a helpful video! Insanely generous to be doing this for free, keep it up!
It's really funny how I was watching you video and then I found out I'm from your old school. I thought, "Imagine if we had the same English teacher."
The video was very helpful, btw!
Thank you this was really well made and made such a difference to my learning. I really appreciated that you explained how to do this essay whilst using an example, it gave me a lot more clarity. Keep it up!
Absolute goat
Thank you
Amazing video! Is it also works for EAL students though?
can you make a video discussing analyzing literary devices and tone in argument anlysis
Would you recommend having a paragraph dedicated to the likes of images, titles, etc?
Just to preface, section C structure is extremely flexible, so there is no right or wrong approach. I would only say from personal experience I liked mentioning the images and titles with the other text because it is easier to analyse them together (especially if they are about the same idea). This was why I separated my paragraphs based on IDEAS as opposed to TECHNIQUES (e.g. images, titles etc)
wow this is really helpful!!!
helpful video!! Do you also have a video on how to do an argument analysis with two texts + an image? (e.g. an article, a response letter with a visual). I find it hard to section my ideas into the body paragraphs. Thanks :)
Thank you! It may be helpful to look at my Comparative Text Response video - although that is text response, it is the same structure for argument analysis (rather than two texts, it is just two or more articles).
I have a sample essay which has two texts + image here that I've analysed, bit of an old video but the content is still relevant: th-cam.com/video/FMrcmMil-EA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Julian this is an amazing viedo and honestly helps a lot but I was just wondering how were you able to finish this so quickly in the 1 hour time span of the three hour exam?
Thanks Aleena! First, I spent most of my reading time (~14mins) reading the article, and once writing time started I would quickly plan (~2 mins) all the quotes I was going to use. I typically used 3 main quotes per paragraph, so 9 in total for 3 paragraphs - and so I went through the article labelling all the quotes so I didn't have to go back and search for them during writing.
Second, I memorised a lot of key sentence stems i.e. I had a template for the introduction that I used for all of my essays. You can find more info here: th-cam.com/video/ZYmi-ajAr9Y/w-d-xo.html
Finally, I made sure to spend a maximum of 17mins per paragraph - if let's say I got to 15mins and still haven't finished one paragraph I knew I had to quickly conclude it. This way I was able to finish the essay on time.
Hope this helps :)
@@JLTutoring yeah it does thanks again :)
in the chance there isn't an image included, which i don't think will happen, what would i use as my last sentence for the introduction
as there is no second article its guaranteed there is an image. But if there somehow isnt one probably talk about title, byline, subheadings, etc
great points, if there is no image, just remove the sentence, and either just end there OR as the above comment mentions - talk about something else 'visual' about the article.
Thank you
Love the vid! How would you go on about finding the contention in an article??
There's no one size fits all rule in finding the contention - and different people may come up with different contentions but still be correct. My approach is to follow the structure:
The author is arguing (x) because (y), and this has broader consequences of (z)
Following this structure helped me identify the contention in most, if not all cases
thanks bro
Cheers for the ongoing support!
Hey Julian thanks for putting this out but I was just wondering:
1. When you categorise your arguments as logical, sympathetic, condemning etc..., isn't that sort of redundant since I guess logic isn't really a category of argument? Like shouldn't a logical progression of thought be a prerequisite to any argument? So what does highlighting it's presence actually do? Also shouldn't evoking emotions like sympathy and condemnation be as a result of author positioning? I feel including it in the topic sentence also doesn't really do anything. I know you said it's for VCAA but do you have any idea what their reasoning behind this is?
2. Do you have any tips on how to structure your progression of argument? Because right now I feel my writing is quite disjointed, and it's not a very flowing piece in the way that each topic sentence is not a natural continuation of the previous?
Would appreciate a reply :)
I found a lot of techniques for my first argument...how do i know which one to use in my body paragraph? My teacher says i incorporate too many tecniques in my essay, hence it gets really confusing. Let me know...
There's a great amount of flexibility with what techniques to use - I usually just go in chronological order and try to split up the article evening so I get an equal amount of techniques per paragraph (tip: if you feel like all the techniques relate to the first argument (i.e. first body paragraph), then the second body paragraph can just be you talking about "how the author continues on his argument" - that way you have a more even split. And if you are finding that you use too many, I would recommend just sticking to 3 core techniques for paragraph
(so 3 x how what why)
Thanks for the super helpful video! I was just wondering how do you locate the main arguments while analysing a persuasive article?
Thank you! So the way you locate the main arguments varies - which is fine, you can write about different arguments and still get full marks. But as a general rule for how I would approach it: I usually always go chronologically because the author has structured their article that way for a reason. Then as you are going through, look for shifts in any or more of the following: target audience, tone, argument type, style of writing etc - and transitions between these can be used as a marker for a new argument
And generally speaking, the first argument is usually something to do with contextualising the argument or increasing credibility, the second paragraph is about supporting their view with more logic and reason, and the final argument usually is a call to action. (just a general framework to look out for)
Hope this helps!
Great video. Do you think using techniques for examples is required? E.g. emotional appeals, anecdotes, statistics, etc.
Thanks - it is not necessarily to use techniques. Yes, they are a potential choice, but you can also just find any phrase that you find persuasive and talk about that. So basically don't be like 'this sentence is persuasive but it does not fall under the category of a traditional persuasive technique, and so I can't use it.'
Remember that you are marked on how well you analyse how persuasive something is, rather than identifying techniques - so no it is not required
Hey Julian, thanks for this helpful vid! I was just curious what did you do during reading time of the English EOY exam? Also, for section C (argument analysis) which resources did you use to practice (i.e. VCAA, or other companies)?
Thank you! Yep I had a quite peak at section A and B, but focused mostly on reading the article for part C. I mainly used VCAA to practice (there's a lot to go through, even the 2002 article was quite good to do). Then I would do company ones e.g. insight etc. Now since I struggled with reading time and finding ideas, I went through a lot of company papers (10+) just doing the 15mins reading time (so don't feel like you have to do full practice essays each time).
Hope this helps and all the best!
@@JLTutoring Oh I see, that helps a lot - thanks so much Julian!
guys how bout we all kiss instead of studyinggg/????