I had a drink with coach Don Haskins several years ago and he said that Bobby Knight had more integrity than anyone he had ever known. For a man who grew up in El Paso that is like words from up on high!!
@@rodneymckoy6515 ... they couldn't control him. He thought he was the king and didn't have to follow the rules... and his belligerent behavior was tolerated because the fans wanted to win. So much integrity. So the program wasn't really clean.
Agreed. This is one of sort of "click bait" postings that annoy the hell out of me. Knight does not say he "hates John Wooden". Now, I had not heard of Sam Gilbert. And that Joe Buck doesn't say anything in rebuttal, or to contradict what Knight says about Gilbert, suggests to me that people in the know about, or close to UCLA basketball knew about this guy and his apparent questionable recruiting tactics.
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The "random interviewer" as you refer to him is Joe Buck, who has been a sports broadcaster for over 30 years. Regarding the interview, Knight asks Joe Buck if he has heard of Sam Gilbert. Buck says he has. Buck then further says about Gilbert, that "he kind of did the dirty work". Knight then says, "Not kind of" and goes on about Gilbert running UCLA recruiting, and that he (Knight) had talked with Wooden about Gilbert. So, Knight knows about Gilbert, Buck knows about Gilbert, Knight says he has spoken to Wooden about Gilbert. Therefore, I don't think it's "faulty logic" to believe others involved with, or close to, the UCLA basketball program wouldn't also know about this guy. @@anonymouslakernerd7214
@@hansgordy never mind. I misread your post. You were validating what he actually said. I thought you were assuming he hated John because he didn’t respect him.
Need to watch a Robby Benson movie called _"One on One"_ , GD Spradlin (Apocolypse Now) plays a "California" coach that openly states he buys his recruits to play for him..... *This was the era where Eric Dickerson's mother bought him a "Smokey & Bandit TransAm" while unemployeed & living in Section 8 apartments after SMU recruiting him for football at SMU.. That incident, money for cars to others, hookers for players who made big plays, and a full "under the table" bar & restaurant in the athletic dorm for free food & booze to athletes got SMU the "Death Penalty" for the football program*
Well, I didn't know either one of them personally, but all I've ever heard from his former players and anyone else who knew him is that Wooden was a good man, a kind man, a man of principle and compassion.
So where does “Turning a blind eye” fit in the pyramid of success? Don’t remember that chapter in Wooden’s books on how to succeed. Just look the other way son…. Yea ok.
@@mtl98-n9g ... the Hoosier nation supported a jealous... chair throwing... player choking... belligerent jerk as a coach because he won. They turned a blind eye to all of it. I doubt that you've read all of Wooden's books. Knight's teams were 'good.'
@@drslyone Larry Bird leaving IU had nothing to do with bob knight. Larry never even joined the team. He enrolled, stayed a few weeks and left because the school was too big. That's in his own words. And Isiah continued towards his degree and got it in 1987
@@MrAitraining Ok , I'm glad to hear that about Isiah and I didn't really know why Larry left IU. I think the reality is that graduation rates were pretty good for almost everyone way back when. Freshmen weren't even allowed to play when Lew Alcinder joined UCLA. Mike Krzyzewski used to graduate his players, but towards the end, even he couldn't.
I worked as a graduate assistant for a professor who graduated from IU and put Bobby Knight on a pedestal. Bobby could do no wrong in his eyes. He would say he likes how Bobby graduates his players. I never understood this worship of Knight because he was like a sulking little boy who threw temper tantrums when he didnt get what he wants. I'm sure he was a good coach as far as teaching basketball fundamentals but his childish antics and over the top diva drama are the opposite of a role model coach. John Wooden forgot more about fundamental basketball and sportsmanship than Bobby ever knew.
Dale Brown of LSU didn’t respect Knight. He accused the Indiana coach of telling high school recruits it would hurt their chances of playing in the Olympics if they bypassed Indiana for another college program.
I don’t really think Coach Knight “hated” Coach Wooden. He just felt UCLA’s recruiting approach was questionable due to Sam Gilbert, and he was eventually proven correctly several years after Coach Wooden retired. And at the time, I thought Coach Knight blasted Coach Wooden was the fact a man from Martinsville which is 20 minutes north of Bloomington went to the rival school, Purdue. It wasn’t.
There was never an investigation by the NCAA. There were a lot of distractions that he brought on himself. But shady booster stuff was never a thing being ivestigated.
Yeah, Coach Knight, we all respect you for advising women that if they're getting raped, they may as well lie back and enjoy it. Class act, bro. You're a prince.
@@walterhowardiii460 I have to wonder if he would say the same if he was the one being raped. Even as a metaphor, I seriously doubt that he would have said it. Just a terrible thing to say under any circumstances.
Funny how Knight waited until years after Wooden had passed away to say all this. Why? Because if Wooden were still alive, he would have answered back and stood up to him. And Knight, being the bully that he is, wouldn't have been able to take it.
I didn’t realized he was interviewed while wooden was alive and ask his thoughts on wooden. Or did you expect him to out of the blue one day randomly proclaim why he doesn’t respect Wooden?
My dad always said there was some major cheating going on at UCLA with recruiting but as a coach John Wooden was a great coach. Which Coach Bob Knight agreed!
Knight called him a 'good' coach. Wouldn't use the word great. He was jealous. Knight brought hell to every practice. He was abusive. It's rich to hear him discuss Wooden and to give him no credit.
Every major program cheated. Wooden was a better coach than Knight, and he respected his players and made their lives better. Knight physically attacked some of his players. He was a blowhard and a jerk.
Integrity? This guy was abusive and lacked control of his emotion. But I do respect his willingness to speak up on things, especially in this sensitive day and age.
Wooden didn’t know how to deal with those distractions like Sam Gilbert; he controlled the b-ball environment. The one who should have said something was the UCLA Athletic Director. This is also Knight playing small ball here.
A good guy to ask is Marcus Johnson about Gilbert. Also Knight thought Pete Newell of Cal was a better coach than Wooden. That was Knights go to mentor.
No surprise. My Dad was a BIG USC football fan his whole adult life. In the late 1960's he told me he felt sad for the USC football players because they had to take a paycut when they went into the NFL.
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Knight will be remembered for being a hot head, bully against his players and students. Wooden will be remembered for being one of the greatest coaches and teachers,
I don't understand the love so many have for Bob Knight, he had such a violent temper, he was not respectful to anyone, felt he was superior to so many, yet everyone wanted to kiss his behind. College Basketball is not important to me, I do love sports however and learning about the personalities of leaders both in sports and otherwise that's why I ask the question of why so many were afraid of him almost.
I don't understand why so many people love John Wooden. He wrote all those books about leadership and acted like he was the salt of the earth all while Sam Gilbert bought him championships. I've never particularly cared for Coach Knight either.
@@muddobber6863, so it was that easy, was it? I guess Wooden should have just sat in the stands and munched his popcorn. He had nothing to do with that championship run. Got it...
@erichodge567 It took cheater John 16 years at UCLA to win a championship. POS Knight did it in 3. One had someone buying players while the other one didn't.
You don't understand? Maybe because he was honest, played by the rules and took to heart the student-athlete motto, that kids attending college to play basketball have to attend classes. Yes, he had a temper and was verbally abusive.
Ill sum it up this way all big time colleges cheated or manipulated the rules. UCLA took it to another level after Bill Walton said that he never paid for anything at UCLA!!!!! Alot of people dont realize that Wooden was there for 14 yrs before he started winning and it aligns wih Gilberts influence. But when Walton said that the players couldnt wait to get to practice that took Wooden to another level most athletes hate practice got to respect that.
This is coming from the guy who had Larry Legend. Larry did not fit in with the Knight’s boys. He was a poor kid. Not a fashion guy! Knight would have had 3 to 4 ncaa championships in a row. Larry did all right. You have your Airness and the King, but only one Legend.
@@teleamor Ha. Bird didn’t do it alone, did he. Nope. Took a HOF front line and point guard, along with a deep bench to do it. And they couldn’t stop Jordan. Just like Bird, MJ couldn’t win it all by his lonesome.
I don't recall any of Tarks super teams at Long Beach State or UNLV playing against IU. Coach Knight looks like the type to cry about it. he'd drive over to the ncaa headquarters personally and file a complaint had he lost to any of them lol Those Tark teams were must see tv when they were allowed on tv lol dang trumped up violations. Glad Tark won that lawsuit!
Knight is 100% right about Sam Gilbert. Gilbert is the reason UCLA had the best players. And it is waaaaayyyyy easier to look wise when you have the best players.
Do some research on Walt Hazzard, Sidney Wicks, Lucious Allen and some of the other "stars" of that UCLA era. They all talk candidly about going to see Papa Sam when they needed money, clothes, cars, etc. There was a reason Wooden didn't win anything for the first 15 years at UCLA. Then suddenly he gets all the players. Pre-Sam vs. Sam in da House. Tarnished everything Wooden accomplished.
Gilbert didn't do s*** in the big scope of things. He's just used by ppl who don't have any facts against him and are jealous of Wooden's domination. Gilbert had pool party barbecues for the players and offered to negotiate their pro contracts for free when they graduated which he did. His only "sin" was co-signing a loan for a Lucius Allen car which caused the school to induce Allen to leave school before his senior year. He was the first and only early departure for decades. # Knight was a "child abuser", rageaholic intolerable boozer and a bore. A true criminal and menace to society.
I hear you, but we all know the response would just be something fluffy like "Here at UCLA, we hold our coaches and other athletic personnel to the highest ethical standards," blah, blah, blah.
It's all BS. Gilbert did precious little. He had pool party barbecues for the players and offered to negotiate their pro contracts for free when they graduated which he did. His only "sin" was co-signing a loan for a Lucius Allen car which caused the school to induce Allen to leave school before his senior year. He was the first and only early departure for decades. Knight is just envious of JRW's record, period. # Knight was a "child abuser", rageaholic intolerable boozer
Wooden was arguably as great a coach as you cna imagine, but also the biggest hypocrite. Sam Gilbert was my neighbor and built my house. I knew him personally . UCLA violated every ncaa recruting restriction but wooden maintained studious plausible deniability. He makes Pete Carroll look like a saint. Wooden was a great champion but the sorest loser you can imagine. There was an arrogance that he kept hidden behind a Mormon like persona. Sam procured money drugs booze and girls and was legendary his recruiting violations. By todays standards sam wouldn’t have stood out, but back then he was notorious and even brazen about. there is no way John wooden didn’t know Sam was cheating and paying money to land many of his players. PEOPEK are always interviewing walton and listening to his credible denial, but why doesn’t anyone interview say Sidney wicks> ? . But the real issues is there were multiple complaints to ncaa and they wouldn’t touch wooden. Don’t get me wrong, his first championship team was one of the greatest coaching jobs of all time in college b ball, and Sam wasn’t quite as active cheating then. But once program got on a roll wooden couldn’t stand to lose so he allowed it.
I know for a fact that Wooden never recruited or visited Andre Mc Carter ( Overbrook HS in Philly ). but he ended up their and led the 1975 team to a Title.
bobby knight was a ucla hater. everybody recruited. how did joe namath from penn end up at Alabama? ucla is the number 1 rated public univ in america. did sam gilbert recruit arthur ashe? recruit jackie robinson. no
Gilbert recruited from about 1965 on . Edgar Lacy , Alcindor, Allen , Wilkes , Wicks, Bibby , Washingon and M. Johnson = Long list that Gilbert got to recruit for wooden
Another thing about Bobby Knight is that he was an incredibly sore loser and held nonsensical grudges for years (ask Coach K). Knight was a great basketball mind but a small human being.
He is correct on this, Sam Gilbert made UCLA basketball by doing some really underhanded things. No one had even close to the player funnel that UCAL had in those years.
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Bobby Knight didn't say that he hated Wooden. He respected him for his coaching the game of basketball and teaching it well - having deservedly been labeled the "Wizard of Westwood". What he didn't respect that for those accomplishments, Wooden likely knew that the program he ran was not a clean program. After all, does a man as detail-oriented and intelligent as Wooden miss his amateur players rolling around Westwood in brand new cars? That, uh, seems unlikely. But as amazing as it may sound, even with the cheating by boosters like Gilbert, Wooden may have been successful anyway.
Wooden's strength was with his kids, not dealing with administrative decisions and personality types. As an educator, I can relate. My focus and energy go to the students. I do not get involved in all the admin politics.
Larry Farmer wrote a book recently. He wrote an entire chapter on Sam Gilbert! Wooden took a blind eye when it came to Gilbert providing extra benefits to ucla players!!
I like both of them great coaches. I never met either one so I can't say I know them. I respect Bobby Knight for his coaching and how he ran a program. I know he did some things that people did not agree with it happens unfortunately. I believe he should have talked to coach Wooden himself and expressed his feelings. C unhappiness unhappiness unhappiness unhappiness
So what was Gilbert’s impact. I do not recall UCLA having a talent advantage in the mid 1960’s. Wooden won his first two championships with teams featuring players like Walt Hazzard, Keith Erickson, and Gail Goodrich. His last championship team was led by David Meyers and Pete Tergovich. The only two players that really made his job a lot easier were Alcindor and Walton. If Gilbert helped land them, oh well.
Gilbert gave players money, cars and more. It’s well known. But when you have Alcindor and Walton for 8 years out of a 12 year dynasty, then I would say that’s a huge recruiting advantage. Plus the 1975 team had 7 nba players, including Marques Johnson.
Gilbert bought Walton for UCLA? Sure. He was dying to go to UCLA. Westwood was THE Mecca of college basketball in those days and had its pick of players. If Gilbert really made a difference then UCLA thanks the NCAA for ignoring what was commonly known all those years.
@@brianmcgavin4987 I don’t know if he had an impact on Walton. But it’s well known he gave money. And players knew that, so they definitely had an advantage. And yes the ncaa looked the other way.
Wooden’s integrity and coaching abilities were beyond reproach, but there is still Sam Gilbert. I’ve heard several interviews from ex players say Gilbert was a problem. He did things that would get a program the death penalty now!
It all depends on how you want to look at it, Wooden and Gilbert where out in front of everyone. Gilbert just employed a historical form of NIL way before anyone else.
the real question is how many ucla players would have played basketball and been mentored by a legend without sam gilbert because ucla was not a place where indoor sports thrived he had no choice if he wanted to build a good team and have a job
I read Jerry Tarkanian's book "Tark" where Jerry writes about all the negative umbridge he got from the NCAA and from the established coaching community, including Wooden, who resented Tark's success in recruiting JC kids and being successful w/ those kids, because Tark was doing something outside of the estalished norm for those days; ergo: Wooden and the other coaches did what they could to throw roadblocks iin the way of Tark's approach. Mr. Clean Wooden maybe not so Mr. Clean, after all.
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I hate to disparage the dead but Bob Knight, with his behavior as a coach, did more damage to the image of all of college sports with his on court tirades and blatant assault, intimidation and belittling of players than all other coaches, at any level, in any sport, combined. He was a despicable man who should have been fired and blackballed, probably as early as his first year as coach. I think it can be surmised that any player who didn't sign with Knight did so out of fear of how he would be mistreated by that sociopath. Blaming John Wooden for players he failed to recruit is like Hitler blaming the United States for ending the gassing of the Jews in the concentration camps.
Agree with you 100%. I was starting my high school coaching career in the late 70’s, and thought I needed to intimidate refs and bully players. Knight said you are hurting your team if you don’t! Also, “it aint a foul if they don’t call it”… his players grabbed jerseys pushed, all kinds of cheap crap. I was an awful example for young men until I saw the light later in my career and taught life lessons. We went to state 6 times in a row after I quit Knights BS.
Watching the title and seeing the comments shows how people dont listen before responding. First off Knight never said he hated Wooden , that was a click bait title, the only thing he didnt like was how Wooden was not responsible when it came from dealing with his recruiter, Knight said he liked him as a coach and as a person. Soooo thats too many likes to hate a person in my opinion.
Don’t like Knight but I do believe he’s right on Gilbert. There a whole gross underbelly to UCLA and it’s “success” under wooden. Probably of a serious criminal nature too.
As a UCLA alum with respect for both Coach Knight and Coach Wooden (RIP to you both), the main point Coach Knight was making with Joe Buck without saying directly was NCAA inveastigators were very aware of what Gilbert was doing, but turned a blind eye to it. Had same recruting violations (some very blatant) happned at other schools (or another coach like Larry Brown years later at UCLA), they would of been hammered with multiple recruiting violations and postseason bans. Just a sad reality most knowledgeable fans of Bruins Basketaball just dont discuss in honor of Coach Wooden's memory and props to Coach Knight never shying away from the topic.
Coach Wooden had something in abundance that Bobby Knight wouldn't know anything about it's called class. And if you think IU didn't pay players **cough Isaiah Thomas ** cough you are delusional.
I could care less what Bobby Knight thought about anything. Facts are: Knight physically, mentally and emotionally abused everybody in the whole ball of wax in the college basketball scene. Im sure many of his former basketball players and all coaches, AD's, everyone else is thankful this monster is long gone. Knight said decades ago he intended to be buried face down when he croaked so the endless number of ppl who deplored him could just " kiss my ***." Well, i had 0 respect for him, not ever, and I kiss NO body's ***, BOBBY KNIGHT. Great College Coaches are everywhere today. ALAS, Long gone are the once great BB Coaches who like Knight, had 0 class, 0 humility, 0 sportsmanship. THANK GOD! Good riddance, Bobby Knight! Hope you got buried face side up...cause nobody was/is interested in kissing your duff...
And, i'm darned sure IU had many players who were well paid under the table. Give it a break, Knight...🤑🤑 BK was a class ass, not any "class ACT," BIG difference... as in zero comparison...
@@davidjackson2690 Nope, not hardly. He wouldnt have thrown any chair towards me as a member of his bball team. His son was playing then too. I was thrilled when the tandrum thrower baby heard the words " You're fired" since he refused to resign. He needed, deserved this attitude adjustment light years before he threw one too tantrum too many and shockingly learned he wasnt a god afterall...LOL.
Bobby would have done the same thing if he has the opportunity. Every coach would have. Look at it this way. UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden retired. And the Bruins have had a lot of great players since then.
Bob Knight explains why he hates John Wooden...I played the video a few times and each time, I miss the HATE word, why? I heard "I never been a Wooden Fan" and "I don't respect Wooden" and then, he said "I like John" I HATE LIARS!
He was saying that UCLA AD JD Morgan ran the program. The combo was what won it. Wooden only had to coach. But JD couldn’t have won it without him and neither could Wooden. Wooden didn’t want Kareem or Bill Walton but JD stepped in. He liked their box office appeal. JD stepped in when players had legal problems and got the media out of it. Wooden wanted to kick out a player but JD vetoed it concerning stars. In Knight’s case, he was clean when it came to recruiting and academics. But in today’s climate, he would have been gone not for players but his domestic abuse of his ex-wife, Nancy.
Indiana and academics??? Indiana has never held a candle compared to UCLA regarding academics. Just look at college ratings for the past 50+ years. UCLA top 3 public universities (some show #1), Indiana? Nowhere to be found.
I had a drink with coach Don Haskins several years ago and he said that Bobby Knight had more integrity than anyone he had ever known. For a man who grew up in El Paso that is like words from up on high!!
Knight was a billigerent... egotistical jerk.
Knight also threw a plant at a secretary and choked a player.
He had so much integrity so he disrespected and disregarded his President and AD at Indiana on a regular basis.
@@rodneymckoy6515 ... they couldn't control him. He thought he was the king and didn't have to follow the rules... and his belligerent behavior was tolerated because the fans wanted to win. So much integrity. So the program wasn't really clean.
"For a man who grew up in El Paso that is like words from up on high!!" Huh?
Didn't hear a single statement by Knight that was hateful toward Wooden. Sounds like hyperbole to me.
Agreed. This is one of sort of "click bait" postings that annoy the hell out of me. Knight does not say he "hates John Wooden". Now, I had not heard of Sam Gilbert. And that Joe Buck doesn't say anything in rebuttal, or to contradict what Knight says about Gilbert, suggests to me that people in the know about, or close to UCLA basketball knew about this guy and his apparent questionable recruiting tactics.
Actually it sounds more like jealousy.
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@@JohnDoe-lc9yj who is jealous of whom?
The "random interviewer" as you refer to him is Joe Buck, who has been a sports broadcaster for over 30 years. Regarding the interview, Knight asks Joe Buck if he has heard of Sam Gilbert. Buck says he has. Buck then further says about Gilbert, that "he kind of did the dirty work". Knight then says, "Not kind of" and goes on about Gilbert running UCLA recruiting, and that he (Knight) had talked with Wooden about Gilbert. So, Knight knows about Gilbert, Buck knows about Gilbert, Knight says he has spoken to Wooden about Gilbert. Therefore, I don't think it's "faulty logic" to believe others involved with, or close to, the UCLA basketball program wouldn't also know about this guy. @@anonymouslakernerd7214
Knight didn’t say that he hated Wooden. He said that he didn’t respect the things that Wooden allowed UCLA to do to recruit
He said that he didn't respect John Wooden.
@@hansgordy 1:15
that doesn’t mean you hate that person.
@@Energyfl00d ... who me? Did I say that I hated someone? Knight said that he didn't respect Wooden.
@@hansgordy never mind. I misread your post. You were validating what he actually said. I thought you were assuming he hated John because he didn’t respect him.
@@Energyfl00d ... yeah... he didn't respect Wooden and called him a 'good' coach in a condescending way. 'Good'... lol. That's a putdown.
He actually explained that he liked Wooden but did not respect him because of Sam Gilbert. Said nothing about hating John Wooden.
Knight was jealous of Wooden. Called him a 'good' coach. HIs way of slamming him.
Beyond stupid comment
@@FredPena-rd5cf ... he said that he didn't respect John Wooden. Bobby was jealous. Hated talking about him.
UCLA didn't need to recruit heavy. The kids wanted to play for Coach Wooden and win championships.
@@ericw2053please. Those kids weighed offers same as today. No kid passed up big money to play at UCLA. If you think so name the athlete.
Now we know why so many great players played at UCLA all those years. The recruiting shenanigans were alive and well back then too.
Need to watch a Robby Benson movie called _"One on One"_ , GD Spradlin (Apocolypse Now) plays a "California" coach that openly states he buys his recruits to play for him..... *This was the era where Eric Dickerson's mother bought him a "Smokey & Bandit TransAm" while unemployeed & living in Section 8 apartments after SMU recruiting him for football at SMU.. That incident, money for cars to others, hookers for players who made big plays, and a full "under the table" bar & restaurant in the athletic dorm for free food & booze to athletes got SMU the "Death Penalty" for the football program*
One on One is an underrated film. It's a must see for any college sports fan!@@rickpat-x9u
If memory serves, it also stars Annette O'Toole.@@rickpat-x9u
Every school pays players. To single out one is silly.
@@debbiehenson1096we're talking past tense, 1960s-70s. UCLA.
Well, I didn't know either one of them personally, but all I've ever heard from his former players and anyone else who knew him is that Wooden was a good man, a kind man, a man of principle and compassion.
So where does “Turning a blind eye” fit in the pyramid of success? Don’t remember that chapter in Wooden’s books on how to succeed. Just look the other way son…. Yea ok.
Not true for all. He may have been kind, but not a man of principle. All of the shady things going in the program at that time....I mean come on.
@@mtl98-n9g ... the Hoosier nation supported a jealous... chair throwing... player choking... belligerent jerk as a coach because he won. They turned a blind eye to all of it. I doubt that you've read all of Wooden's books. Knight's teams were 'good.'
@@oaktreet4335 ... not true for Hoosier fans. You people actually think that Knight was clean.
Wooden, one time, when asked about Knight, replied "He's profane".
Yeah well wooden should have added, "but knight doesn't cheat and graduates his players"
And chokes his players…. And acts like a petulant 2 year old.
@@MrAitraining Wooden's players graduated. Knight lost Thomas and Bird.
@@drslyone Larry Bird leaving IU had nothing to do with bob knight. Larry never even joined the team. He enrolled, stayed a few weeks and left because the school was too big. That's in his own words. And Isiah continued towards his degree and got it in 1987
@@MrAitraining Ok , I'm glad to hear that about Isiah and I didn't really know why Larry left IU.
I think the reality is that graduation rates were pretty good for almost everyone way back when. Freshmen weren't even allowed to play when Lew Alcinder joined UCLA.
Mike Krzyzewski used to graduate his players, but towards the end, even he couldn't.
I worked as a graduate assistant for a professor who graduated from IU and put Bobby Knight on a pedestal. Bobby could do no wrong in his eyes. He would say he likes how Bobby graduates his players. I never understood this worship of Knight because he was like a sulking little boy who threw temper tantrums when he didnt get what he wants. I'm sure he was a good coach as far as teaching basketball fundamentals but his childish antics and over the top diva drama are the opposite of a role model coach. John Wooden forgot more about fundamental basketball and sportsmanship than Bobby ever knew.
I'm sure many people don't respect Knight either.
For reasons other than corruption
Plenty of people hate other people😅😅😅
He was a bully.
Dale Brown of LSU didn’t respect Knight. He accused the Indiana coach of telling high school recruits it would hurt their chances of playing in the Olympics if they bypassed Indiana for another college program.
Newsflash, Bobby! John Wooden was no fan of you and your histrionics. He also never assaulted his players.
Epic.... respects Wooden as a person but doesn't respect the way he ran things or let things be ran. Knight is a legend
he didnt say he hated john wooden
I don’t really think Coach Knight “hated” Coach Wooden. He just felt UCLA’s recruiting approach was questionable due to Sam Gilbert, and he was eventually proven correctly several years after Coach Wooden retired.
And at the time, I thought Coach Knight blasted Coach Wooden was the fact a man from Martinsville which is 20 minutes north of Bloomington went to the rival school, Purdue. It wasn’t.
Excellent evaluation!
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Good Coach@@Akronkangaroo
Sheeeet they All 'cheated', remember Reggie Theus saying he took a pay cut to go to the NBA!
This logic is flawed.
And Joe Buck moved right along. Didn’t want to go down that road.
Dodged the obvious followup questions.
Yeah, by gushing about Knight lucking into a team with great players; ones he didn't recruit.
No way Knight didn't have his own boosters doing shady stuff too. UCLA was just better at it. That's the world of big time college athletics.
There was never an investigation by the NCAA. There were a lot of distractions that he brought on himself. But shady booster stuff was never a thing being ivestigated.
Amen!
I always felt the same way about Knight. Especially whenever Dick Vitale or someone else would brag about "what a clean program" Knight ran.
I know a guy who started for Bobby Knight as a freshman! Big time hustler from Chicago bought him a Benz and Bobby Knight made him leave !
Bobby Knight did not allow that in his program.
You want to believe that, but it wasn’t true.
Yeah, Coach Knight, we all respect you for advising women that if they're getting raped, they may as well lie back and enjoy it. Class act, bro. You're a prince.
That was a metaphor. Not a good one but still a metaphor. Not advice
Agree completely. Horrible role model.
@@walterhowardiii460 I have to wonder if he would say the same if he was the one being raped. Even as a metaphor, I seriously doubt that he would have said it. Just a terrible thing to say under any circumstances.
Funny how Knight waited until years after Wooden had passed away to say all this. Why? Because if Wooden were still alive, he would have answered back and stood up to him. And Knight, being the bully that he is, wouldn't have been able to take it.
Sam Gilbert was a real person, so back off fanboy! Just deal with the truth!
maybe the first time being asked about ucla, wooden.
It's not like he waited for Wooden's passing to set up this interview. Buck asked him about an issue, and Knight answered.
I didn’t realized he was interviewed while wooden was alive and ask his thoughts on wooden. Or did you expect him to out of the blue one day randomly proclaim why he doesn’t respect Wooden?
everyone knew about the guy who controlled the ucla deal for wooden. am happy that Bob made it official and that he did not like it.
My dad always said there was some major cheating going on at UCLA with recruiting but as a coach John Wooden was a great coach. Which Coach Bob Knight agreed!
Knight called him a 'good' coach. Wouldn't use the word great. He was jealous. Knight brought hell to every practice. He was abusive. It's rich to hear him discuss Wooden and to give him no credit.
Every major program cheated. Wooden was a better coach than Knight, and he respected his players and made their lives better. Knight physically attacked some of his players. He was a blowhard and a jerk.
@@hansgordy If I was good enough to have played college basketball I would have been thrilled to play for Coach Knight
@@fordvg ... so you like abusive big-mouthed coaches. Ok.
@@hansgordy yes I’m a United States Marine and not a snowflake like you
Wooden was the best coach ever. Bob Knight couldn't carry Wooden's gym bag
Knight would coach circles around Wooden.
Bull he didn’t go around abusing his players like Knight. His players like Kareem and them respected him.
Snowflake alert!
Bobby had integrity and was honest as they come. You can't find any one else to say otherwise.
"Honesty" is relative.
the coach who physically assaulted players had integrity? you do know integrity means having strong moral principles
Integrity? This guy was abusive and lacked control of his emotion. But I do respect his willingness to speak up on things, especially in this sensitive day and age.
Blue Chips was like a documentary
Such a good movie. Nick Nolte was the PERFECT choice for the Head Coach.
Wooden didn’t know how to deal with those distractions like Sam Gilbert; he controlled the b-ball environment. The one who should have said something was the UCLA Athletic Director. This is also Knight playing small ball here.
Coach Knight had no business coaching. The moment he physically and verbally assaulted his players he should have been fired. 👍
How the coaches that paid there players and who took 3rd grade classes
Your tampon string got pulled? 😅😅😅😅
@@skanderbeg1751 Were you one of these players? What the hell kind of sentence was that?
@@skanderbeg1751 great english
Multiple hall of fame basketball players that he coached would disagree with you assessment.
A good guy to ask is Marcus Johnson about Gilbert. Also Knight thought Pete Newell of Cal was a better coach than Wooden. That was Knights go to mentor.
No surprise. My Dad was a BIG USC football fan his whole adult life. In the late 1960's he told me he felt sad for the USC football players because they had to take a paycut when they went into the NFL.
Wow! That's very deep.
Maybe Bobby Knight was a little jealous of all the respect and admiration Wooden got not to mention the championships
He hated cheating. Could be that?
Maybe you should watch the video again. He was quite clear about what he thought of Wooden and why.
Make it out anyway you want wooden was more of a gentleman. Respectful no show boat all the attention and a lot more successful
I dont think so, Knight did not like cheatingl
Surely he loved, respected coaches that choked and verbally demeaned, abused their players such as he did!
FAKE news! He said I've never been a Wooden fan. Lot of respect for how he coached. He didn't respect Wooden because of Gilbert.
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Maybe he might not like Knight for throwing chairs , berating players coaches, cursing at students.
'What Bob Knight hated *about* UCLA and John Wooden' is more accurate and less inflammatory.
Knight will be remembered for being a hot head, bully against his players and students.
Wooden will be remembered for being one of the greatest coaches and teachers,
I don't understand the love so many have for Bob Knight, he had such a violent temper, he was not respectful to anyone, felt he was superior to so many, yet everyone wanted to kiss his behind. College Basketball is not important to me, I do love sports however and learning about the personalities of leaders both in sports and otherwise that's why I ask the question of why so many were afraid of him almost.
I don't understand why so many people love John Wooden. He wrote all those books about leadership and acted like he was the salt of the earth all while Sam Gilbert bought him championships. I've never particularly cared for Coach Knight either.
@@muddobber6863, so it was that easy, was it? I guess Wooden should have just sat in the stands and munched his popcorn. He had nothing to do with that championship run. Got it...
@erichodge567 It took cheater John 16 years at UCLA to win a championship. POS Knight did it in 3. One had someone buying players while the other one didn't.
You don't understand? Maybe because he was honest, played by the rules and took to heart the student-athlete motto, that kids attending college to play basketball have to attend classes. Yes, he had a temper and was verbally abusive.
His determinación! He was a fierce competitor . And no Bs! He didnt tolerate BS ! I'm from Illinois. He was a great coach !
Ill sum it up this way all big time colleges cheated or manipulated the rules. UCLA took it to another level after Bill Walton said that he never paid for anything at UCLA!!!!!
Alot of people dont realize that Wooden was there for 14 yrs before he started winning and it aligns wih Gilberts influence. But when Walton said that the players couldnt wait to get to practice that took Wooden to another level most athletes hate practice got to respect that.
This is coming from the guy who had Larry Legend. Larry did not fit in with the Knight’s boys. He was a poor kid. Not a fashion guy! Knight would have had 3 to 4 ncaa championships in a row.
Larry did all right. You have your Airness and the King, but only one Legend.
Bird was grounded in two finals. But Air Jordan reigned supreme in six.
@@grizzmac6210 - Jordan NEVER defeated Bird's Celtics in the playoffs. Bird swept Jordan in the playoffs two years in a row.
@@teleamor Ha. Bird didn’t do it alone, did he. Nope. Took a HOF front line and point guard, along with a deep bench to do it. And they couldn’t stop Jordan. Just like Bird, MJ couldn’t win it all by his lonesome.
Bird went to Indiana State.
@@gdog3finally Transferred from IU. This is new to me also.
I wonder what Knight would say about Tark the Shark.
I don't recall any of Tarks super teams at Long Beach State or UNLV playing against IU. Coach Knight looks like the type to cry about it. he'd drive over to the ncaa headquarters personally and file a complaint had he lost to any of them lol Those Tark teams were must see tv when they were allowed on tv lol dang trumped up violations. Glad Tark won that lawsuit!
@@1trackswanson Tark was slick, there is no doubt. Run and gun, wide open throttle all the time.
Knight is 100% right about Sam Gilbert. Gilbert is the reason UCLA had the best players.
And it is waaaaayyyyy easier to look wise when you have the best players.
Clickbait title and description. Listen to the clip to find out what was really said.
Better yet report the video for the false title.
Do some research on Walt Hazzard, Sidney Wicks, Lucious Allen and some of the other "stars" of that UCLA era. They all talk candidly about going to see Papa Sam when they needed money, clothes, cars, etc. There was a reason Wooden didn't win anything for the first 15 years at UCLA. Then suddenly he gets all the players. Pre-Sam vs. Sam in da House. Tarnished everything Wooden accomplished.
Gilbert didn't do s*** in the big scope of things. He's just used by ppl who don't have any facts against him and are jealous of Wooden's domination. Gilbert had pool party barbecues for the players and offered to negotiate their pro contracts for free when they graduated which he did. His only "sin" was co-signing a loan for a Lucius Allen car which caused the school to induce Allen to leave school before his senior year. He was the first and only early departure for decades. # Knight was a "child abuser", rageaholic intolerable boozer and a bore. A true criminal and menace to society.
Would love to hear a defense of Wooden from the UCLA perspective. Strong words from Bobby. Not vicious, though.
I hear you, but we all know the response would just be something fluffy like "Here at UCLA, we hold our coaches and other athletic personnel to the highest ethical standards," blah, blah, blah.
It's all BS. Gilbert did precious little. He had pool party barbecues for the players and offered to negotiate their pro contracts for free when they graduated which he did. His only "sin" was co-signing a loan for a Lucius Allen car which caused the school to induce Allen to leave school before his senior year. He was the first and only early departure for decades. Knight is just envious of JRW's record, period. # Knight was a "child abuser", rageaholic intolerable boozer
@@bz3105 Well, a "blah, blah, blah" response would be better than Knight showing his jealousy through his "non-truths".
@@spider033181 That's one way of looking at it.
Wooden was arguably as great a coach as you cna imagine, but also the biggest hypocrite. Sam Gilbert was my neighbor and built my house. I knew him personally . UCLA violated every ncaa recruting restriction but wooden maintained studious plausible deniability. He makes Pete Carroll look like a saint. Wooden was a great champion but the sorest loser you can imagine. There was an arrogance that he kept hidden behind a Mormon like persona. Sam procured money drugs booze and girls and was legendary his recruiting violations. By todays standards sam wouldn’t have stood out, but back then he was notorious and even brazen about. there is no way John wooden didn’t know Sam was cheating and paying money to land many of his players. PEOPEK are always interviewing walton and listening to his credible denial, but why doesn’t anyone interview say Sidney wicks> ? . But the real issues is there were multiple complaints to ncaa and they wouldn’t touch wooden. Don’t get me wrong, his first championship team was one of the greatest coaching jobs of all time in college b ball, and Sam wasn’t quite as active cheating then. But once program got on a roll wooden couldn’t stand to lose so he allowed it.
"John Wooden never choked his players or slapped them in any way, and I can't respect that" Bob Knight
It's OK, a lot of us have no respect for Knight.
I know for a fact that Wooden never recruited or visited Andre Mc Carter ( Overbrook HS in Philly ). but he ended up their and led the 1975 team to a Title.
Why do people still think Knight was a great coach. Verbal and physical abuse of his players is criminal.
bobby knight was a ucla hater. everybody recruited. how did joe namath from penn end up at Alabama? ucla is the number 1 rated public univ in america. did sam gilbert recruit arthur ashe? recruit jackie robinson. no
Gilbert recruited from about 1965 on . Edgar Lacy , Alcindor, Allen , Wilkes , Wicks, Bibby , Washingon and M. Johnson = Long list that Gilbert got to recruit for wooden
Another thing about Bobby Knight is that he was an incredibly sore loser and held nonsensical grudges for years (ask Coach K). Knight was a great basketball mind but a small human being.
He is correct on this, Sam Gilbert made UCLA basketball by doing some really underhanded things. No one had even close to the player funnel that UCAL had in those years.
more sour grapes from Bobby😢
John Wooden is the greatest coach in sports history.
No surprise, but this title is deceiving.
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Bobby Knight didn't say that he hated Wooden. He respected him for his coaching the game of basketball and teaching it well - having deservedly been labeled the "Wizard of Westwood". What he didn't respect that for those accomplishments, Wooden likely knew that the program he ran was not a clean program. After all, does a man as detail-oriented and intelligent as Wooden miss his amateur players rolling around Westwood in brand new cars? That, uh, seems unlikely. But as amazing as it may sound, even with the cheating by boosters like Gilbert, Wooden may have been successful anyway.
Wooden's strength was with his kids, not dealing with administrative decisions and personality types. As an educator, I can relate. My focus and energy go to the students. I do not get involved in all the admin politics.
Idiotic. Most UCLA players were CA players, many from LA area. They wanted to go to UCLA in high school.
Ike Thomas was from Chicago, a huge basketball recruitment area.
Karem was from NY moron
Deal with your fanboy pain in silence!
Same problem with Calipari. Now that the playing field is leveling with the NIL, recruiters have less advantages
Larry Farmer wrote a book recently. He wrote an entire chapter on Sam Gilbert! Wooden took a blind eye when it came to Gilbert providing extra benefits to ucla players!!
I like both of them great coaches. I never met either one so I can't say I know them. I respect Bobby Knight for his coaching and how he ran a program. I know he did some things that people did not agree with it happens unfortunately. I believe he should have talked to coach Wooden himself and expressed his feelings.
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Bobby Knight was just jealous. Ask any of Wooden’s former players what they think of him.
@pamelajarrett6014 I respect Coach Wooden great man. Follow the Pyramid of Success it works.
The headline is misleading. Knight said Wooed was a good person and coach, he just didn't like the recruiting.
Recruiting is one thing, making a team is another, sorry Bob I’ll take Wooden everyday day of the week.
So what was Gilbert’s impact. I do not recall UCLA having a talent advantage in the mid 1960’s. Wooden won his first two championships with teams featuring players like Walt Hazzard, Keith Erickson, and Gail Goodrich. His last championship team was led by David Meyers and Pete Tergovich. The only two players that really made his job a lot easier were Alcindor and Walton. If Gilbert helped land them, oh well.
Gilbert gave players money, cars and more. It’s well known. But when you have Alcindor and Walton for 8 years out of a 12 year dynasty, then I would say that’s a huge recruiting advantage. Plus the 1975 team had 7 nba players, including Marques Johnson.
Gilbert bought Walton for UCLA? Sure. He was dying to go to UCLA. Westwood was THE Mecca of college basketball in those days and had its pick of players. If Gilbert really made a difference then UCLA thanks the NCAA for ignoring what was commonly known all those years.
@@brianmcgavin4987 I don’t know if he had an impact on Walton. But it’s well known he gave money. And players knew that, so they definitely had an advantage. And yes the ncaa looked the other way.
Fair point.
Wooden’s integrity and coaching abilities were beyond reproach, but there is still Sam Gilbert. I’ve heard several interviews from ex players say Gilbert was a problem. He did things that would get a program the death penalty now!
It all depends on how you want to look at it, Wooden and Gilbert where out in front of everyone. Gilbert just employed a historical form of NIL way before anyone else.
Fake headline of Bob Knight hating Wooden.
To think John Wooden didn't know what Sam Gilbert was doing is incredibly nieve. Definitely tarnishes UCLA's legacy.
the real question is how many ucla players would have played basketball and been mentored by a legend without sam gilbert because ucla was not a place where indoor sports thrived he had no choice if he wanted to build a good team and have a job
"I've never been a Wooden fan." - Bobby Knight
I read Jerry Tarkanian's book "Tark" where Jerry writes about all the negative umbridge he got from the NCAA and from the established coaching community, including Wooden, who resented Tark's success in recruiting JC kids and being successful w/ those kids, because Tark was doing something outside of the estalished norm for those days; ergo: Wooden and the other coaches did what they could to throw roadblocks iin the way of Tark's approach. Mr. Clean Wooden maybe not so Mr. Clean, after all.
Knight definitely has a point
What a tiny, tiny little man.
knight was a jealous pig!
No where in this video does he state that he hates Wooden. He didn't respect Wooden for cheating. Coach is the best.
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I hate to disparage the dead but Bob Knight, with his behavior as a coach, did more damage to the image of all of college sports with his on court tirades and blatant assault, intimidation and belittling of players than all other coaches, at any level, in any sport, combined. He was a despicable man who should have been fired and blackballed, probably as early as his first year as coach. I think it can be surmised that any player who didn't sign with Knight did so out of fear of how he would be mistreated by that sociopath. Blaming John Wooden for players he failed to recruit is like Hitler blaming the United States for ending the gassing of the Jews in the concentration camps.
Agree with you 100%. I was starting my high school coaching career in the late 70’s, and thought I needed to intimidate refs and bully players. Knight said you are hurting your team if you don’t! Also, “it aint a foul if they don’t call it”… his players grabbed jerseys pushed, all kinds of cheap crap. I was an awful example for young men until I saw the light later in my career and taught life lessons. We went to state 6 times in a row after I quit Knights BS.
Watching the title and seeing the comments shows how people dont listen before responding. First off Knight never said he hated Wooden , that was a click bait title, the only thing he didnt like was how Wooden was not responsible when it came from dealing with his recruiter, Knight said he liked him as a coach and as a person. Soooo thats too many likes to hate a person in my opinion.
What he blames Wooden for by today's recruiting, NIL, etc., is now a nothing burger.
Don’t like Knight but I do believe he’s right on Gilbert. There a whole gross underbelly to UCLA and it’s “success” under wooden. Probably of a serious criminal nature too.
As a UCLA alum with respect for both Coach Knight and Coach Wooden (RIP to you both), the main point Coach Knight was making with Joe Buck without saying directly was NCAA inveastigators were very aware of what Gilbert was doing, but turned a blind eye to it. Had same recruting violations (some very blatant) happned at other schools (or another coach like Larry Brown years later at UCLA), they would of been hammered with multiple recruiting violations and postseason bans. Just a sad reality most knowledgeable fans of Bruins Basketaball just dont discuss in honor of Coach Wooden's memory and props to Coach Knight never shying away from the topic.
Interesting how behind the scenes! The Dirty Deeds of success, are hidden? Bobby was No BS Guy! He was always brutally Honest! 🤨
There really isn't anything in American culture that isn't mired in corruption. This is just a microcosm of that.
He said he didnt hate John. Click bait crap.
Coach Wooden had something in abundance that Bobby Knight wouldn't know anything about it's called class. And if you think IU didn't pay players **cough Isaiah Thomas ** cough you are delusional.
Right O...Bobby Knight had 0 class. No doubt IU and countless other players in bball have long been pd under the table, IU 0 exception.
No irony here. Dude physically abused his players, mistreated other coaches, and got his way like a child. Wooden was an example
I could care less what Bobby Knight thought about anything. Facts are: Knight physically, mentally and emotionally abused everybody in the whole ball of wax in the college basketball scene. Im sure many of his former basketball players and all coaches, AD's, everyone else is thankful this monster is long gone.
Knight said decades ago he intended to be buried face down when he croaked so the endless number of ppl who deplored him could just " kiss my ***." Well, i had 0 respect for him, not ever, and I kiss NO body's ***, BOBBY KNIGHT.
Great College Coaches are everywhere today. ALAS, Long gone are the once great BB Coaches who like Knight, had 0 class, 0 humility, 0 sportsmanship. THANK GOD! Good riddance, Bobby Knight! Hope you got buried face side up...cause nobody was/is interested in kissing your duff...
And, i'm darned sure IU had many players who were well paid under the table. Give it a break, Knight...🤑🤑 BK was a class ass, not any "class ACT," BIG difference... as in zero comparison...
Abused? Really? Lol
He woulda you for sure.
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Nope, not hardly. He wouldnt have thrown any chair towards me as a member of his bball team. His son was playing then too. I was thrilled when the tandrum thrower baby heard the words " You're fired" since he refused to resign. He needed, deserved this attitude adjustment light years before he threw one too tantrum too many and shockingly learned he wasnt a god afterall...LOL.
CORRECT!!!
Seems to me , AUDIORAMA, like u need to clean up, correct and revise your ClickBait / false " headline tag".
Now get to work and FIX IT!!
Wooden will always be Mr Indiana, the state's greatest contribution to basketball. Knight will always be the most intolerable bore in Indiana history.
Coach Wooden was one of the best coaches ever. He was much more intellectual than Coach Knight.
Uh...6'10 Kent Benson never got a $50 handshake from a Indiana alumni⁉️🤔🏀
When you are that successful for that extended period of time chances are some exceptions were made.
Bobby would have done the same thing if he has the opportunity. Every coach would have. Look at it this way. UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden retired. And the Bruins have had a lot of great players since then.
10 championship in 12 years he's the goat and I'll a Trojan fan. ❤
Bob Knight explains why he hates John Wooden...I played the video a few times and each time, I miss the HATE word, why? I heard "I never been a Wooden Fan" and "I don't respect Wooden" and then, he said "I like John"
I HATE LIARS!
Knight will be remembered for being a hot head and a bully.
Gilbert was an "enthusiastic" booster, but there is no evidence he participated in recruiting.
I don’t respect coaches that choke their players and throw tantrums (and chairs) on court. I bet John Wooden didn’t even think about Bobby Knight.
But what was so bad about how Gilbert recruited?
NCAA allowed this. See what Knight said about Sleazeball Calipari.
He was saying that UCLA AD JD Morgan ran the program. The combo was what won it. Wooden only had to coach. But JD couldn’t have won it without him and neither could Wooden. Wooden didn’t want Kareem or Bill Walton but JD stepped in. He liked their box office appeal. JD stepped in when players had legal problems and got the media out of it. Wooden wanted to kick out a player but JD vetoed it concerning stars. In Knight’s case, he was clean when it came to recruiting and academics. But in today’s climate, he would have been gone not for players but his domestic abuse of his ex-wife, Nancy.
Indiana and academics??? Indiana has never held a candle compared to UCLA regarding academics. Just look at college ratings for the past 50+ years. UCLA top 3 public universities (some show #1), Indiana? Nowhere to be found.
Bob is jealous of Johnny 😂
Google Sam Gilbert! And be enlightened!
What a misleading headline !
I instinctively dislike anyone who gets worshipped by everyone around them like Wooden did. If you have your own cult you can't be that great of a guy
Hahhaha Bobby Knight talking about integrity is laughable. Really funny
NEVER used the word "HATE!"