Perhaps, but should the state have full control over who to execute for ~$20 million? Personally I think it is better to just lock them up alone for the rest of their life.
The death penalty is valid in scripture for certain crimes and it's not just in the Old Testament. Just read what is going to happen when Christ returns. The problem today is the lies and corruption in a lawless system for the death penalty to be applied as it was meant.
Christ is the only Perfect Person who ever lived. He and He alone can give the death penalty. He commands us If anyone is without sin, let him cast a stone at her
Way to many people misinterpret the old testament. It is God alone who decides who will live or die. Jesus lived by the old testament and never changed anything that it informed us about but only delivered a message of mans changing of its meaning and the rituals that were an abomination to the father. What do you think "turn the other cheek" means? How about "love thy enemy"? Mathew 6 14-15 For if you forgive men their trespasses, I your heavenly father will also forgive you: but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will the father forgive your trespasses. So if you forgive someone and then kill them how have you walked in Jesus footsteps? What chance gave you given a fellow sinner to repent? Are we the judges? Were does it say that in the bible?
Matthew 5:38-48 New International Version 38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Nice Read on Capital Punishment: kgov.com/god-and-death-penalty-what-does-the-bible-say-about-capital-punishment?fbclid=IwAR0bXPZkKY2pqkvsIexUbOMfoldoqmoHy2oNONbOQM5KJEpmpDVnratds2E
It doesn't say that exact quote. If, for some reason, you think it needs to say that exact statement I'd like to know why so I can help further but Romans 13 does lay out a clear example for the government and its role.
Did Jesus die for sinners? Are murderers sinners? Can they be forgiven? Should all murderers be put to death? What if that murderer repents and becomes a believer?
>Did Jesus die for sinners? Are murderers sinners? Can they be forgiven? Yes, to all of those questions. >Should all murderers be put to death? According to the Bible, you need at least two witnesses to convict a murderer and put him to death, so if you want a technical answer, no. >What if a murderer repents and becomes a believer? What’s your point?
What if the person is wrongfully convicted. It happens. Then you can't bring the person back. On that basis alone nobody should ever support the death penalty.
Then Judgement will fall to man and the wrongfully accused will be by God's side. When one is rightfully punished because of his crime and he is repentant about it, A man must not fear for he will sit beside God,, regardless of his past sin. In short, it is all about eternal life and not worldly. Well, that is my opinion.
@@sanmiguel316 The wrongfully accused will be by God's side? If that's the case then we should all have no problem with abortion and all of the babies will also be by God's side, correct?
@@jakobvanguilder8750 It's completely analogous. Jiji hope said that the wrongfully accused will be by god's side. You can say the exact same thing about aborted babies.
@@josephscala6707 if it were completely analagous then placing the unborn into the seat of someone accused of murder would be the same thing. But that makes no sense. Fetuses are exterminated for the purpose of not "inconveniencing" their parents. A murder suspect is exterminated for deliberately killing someone. Not even close to the same thing lol
That why there is confusion because the books of the Bible is incomplete. But the wicked and his wickedness must die. The kings of the Bible all rules has death penalty that even God the creator burned sodom and gamorah.
How ridiculous. Not a single quote from Christ whose entire teachings promote non, forgiveness and mercy. Question: is capital punishment compatible with the Sermon on the Mount? Of course not, it is utterly antithetical to it. There is so much darkness in the world.
God does. He judges, but man, specifically civil authorities, which happened to be placed by God, have the responsibility to carry out what God commands.
@@adamsmith-qy2uv The state _can_ kill people, but only if done in defense when there is no other option to detain them. Besides, there are many nuanced issues with the death penalty: it costs about ~$20 million for the execution, people are wrongfully executed about 4% of the time, people who murder white folks are more likely to be executed than those who murder blacks, many people executed are mentally ill.
Only God can give and take human life. You like it or not even the worst crimunal was created with an immortal soul that image God. Put him in jail, yes, and As christians we should pray for them to convert and visit them in prison, that is what Jesus teaches, they still can be redempted. He rescued PAUL, who used to be a killer. Who can know Gods plan for that person. So confused!
Why are you going back to the Old Testament? Jesus brought a new Covent and was clear about retributive acts. Jesus support for the death penalty is recorded nowhere! What is quite clearly recorded is his abhorrence for acts of retribution. Most of the biblical writing supporting the death penalty comes from the Old Testament. Should we not be focusing primarily on the New Testament and Jesus’ unwavering love and compassion and forgiveness? After all as I understand it, God is the only judge and only God can take life (often an argument used against abortion). Jesus came down to to give us a new covenant changing our relationship to the Old Testament. ‘Let him who is without sin cast the first stone’ is a clear indication that Jesus did not support the death penalty in a time and place in the world which supported it? Most of the laws in the Old Testament, we as Christians don’t adhere to so why do so many Christians go back to the Old Testament to support the death penalty? Even going back to the Old Testament the commandment ‘thou shalt not kill’ is one of the clearest. It does not make reference to innocents or criminals. It does not make exceptions it simply and clearly states, don’t kill! This view is again referenced in Matthew 5:21-22 where he goes on to add ‘anyone who is angry with a brother or a sister will be subject to judgement’. I don’t see how support for the death penalty is honouring this New Testament teaching? I’m not saying murderers shouldn’t be severely punished but using murder itself as a punishment for murder goes against another clear point made further on in the gospel of Matthew which starts; ‘ you have heard it was said eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth…’ Here it is made clear that the retributive and violent conduct in the Old Testament is not acceptable anymore. Its saying there is a new covenant brought by Jesus. One which doesn’t promote violence and killing. These are the reasons I am unable to make sense of the Christian argument for the death penalty? Jesus clearly disagreed with the retributive violence in the Old Testament and sought to change it. As Christians we are instructed to follow his teaching before all else! I don’t feel we can ignore New Testament teaching and Jesus own words and actions to pick and choose between what Jesus said and what is in the Old Testament because of our own views on the death penalty. Jesus was clear in his actions and teachings on this. Who are we to pick and choose which parts of his message we listen to and don’t?
Jesus didn't support the death penalty? Have you not read his words in Matthew 15:4? Here he is confirming the death penalty as was described in Exodus 21:17.
@@gskessingerable so you’re going to ignore everything he said about pacifism and turn to a verse which was supposed to be about Jews following their own made up laws?
Turn the other cheek? Thou shalt not murder? It seems as if the topic of capital punishment is not black and white. So what is the solution? Do we play God and choose when someone has to make their eternal decision by? Or do we let them live out the rest of their life secluded from society so that they can’t hurt anyone else, and in doing so give God time to work on their heart in hopes of salvation?
Turn the other cheek is a command for individuals, not the government. The government is instituted by God. You don't want to punish and retaliate on your own accord, because you have a flawed mindset. The government doesn't have to abide by these rules because the system isn't flawed like us. Basically, you can't be a vigilante, let government and law enforcement help you with your problems
Isnt all life is sacred in the eyes of God and deserve the right to repent? If you support capital punishment, you're supporting satans power in this world, and turn away from God. Jesus is Lord, God and Saviour.
Punishment is actually not a very effective teacher! It may teach people not to do something, but at a great cause to their spiritual progress and ability to Love themselves; to Love life and to Love others, which is the ultimate lesson. People who receive "punishment," are full of shame or anger and resentment; and this is the hell people must learn to release themselves. Punishment leads to further sinful entrenchment and misery, it's ultimately counterproductive to spiritual progress. Punishment is Satan's way to remedy crimes and mistakes, and people have yet to recognize its ineffectiveness. Punishment perpetuates pain and negativity, and does not heal; all crimes, mistakes and suffering are caused by Satan. So the solution is not to entrench people further into their sin by "punishing" them, but to give them what might help them see that they are not sinners. Love is what heals and brings people out of sin, and nothing else. Love, acceptance, kindness, compassion and attention are the balms that heal.
@@inactivemogul403 The devil hates Love and those who preach of Love! Therefore... Jesus is not your Messiah... Barabbas is your Messiah. Likewise, hitler, osoma bin laden and others like them are your so call Messiah(s); for they manifested the god of jealousy and wrath.
@@thelionofdesert7739 Love your enemies! Forgive those who use and persecute you, the day of forgiveness is at hand. Yes! Forgive them all! All who embrace violence shall perish by violence! Don't let your zeal blind you to the truth! Heaven will not be built by murder and uprisings! The Love and Wisdom of God will fill the Earth as water fills the sea, the lion will lie down with the lamb, there will be no more killing or destroying; and the voice of weeping should be heard no more.
@i freaking love kfc God has taken life away justly as the judicial system does, there is no wrongdoing in taking a murders’ life however it depends on the circumstance
Imagine arguing that the death penalty is good because God himself died at the hands of the death penalty. That’s literally the primary argument against it.
Without stealing from the Christian worldview, please explain what morality is? If you’re an atheist then what’s wrong with stardust harming other stardust? Again, without taking from what’s biblically defined as morality.
Without God you have no moral point of reference. If you’re an atheist how can you can even try to define what morality is? Given that atheism follows the rule of evolution that would logically imply that all human ‘morals’ are an evolutionary process. As such, that would mean morals should be constantly evolving. If that is the case then you can’t claim that morality is not a product of God or faith. Basically what u claim to he right today could be wrong tmrw because your atheism has no point of reference that gives u the moral right n Wrong. If it’s simply a product of evolution then you have shot yourself in the foot. And what book of faith did the communists follow? Given that under communism more people were murdered then all the centuries of ‘religious’ murder.
Jesus Christ already paid for the sins of who repents and confesses Him as Lord. It is finished. Who are we to judge a man that may repent and become a christian while in prison? We christians are not to pay evil with evil. We are to forgive, we are to pray (even for our enemies). We are to be merciful. Jesus Christ Himself is even an example of how men judged wrongly, being the Just crucified. People who have sex contrary to the nature, criminals, whatever... They may be called later in life. We do not know. God knows. Even Saul that was persecuting christians, God used Him. He died for sin as Saul and born again in righteousness as Paul.
In the Hebrew the word for "killing" and "murder" are entirely different. There is in fact even an outline for what the Hebrews called "manslaughter" and soldiers were actually Instructed to kill under God's Word. The Caininites for example. There is a reason for it. We are not to go out killing people vigilante style or for revenge. But to eliminate EVIL people that make it known they are evil and would HAPPILY do it again! A person who kills someone drunk driving is an irresponsible awful person if we judge them in that event. And there should be consequences. However this is a person that can also feel remorse and wants to spend the rest of their lives making up for it. God is judge yes. But He has given us HIS holy judgements to execute, it's not our saying but HIS. An accidental killing or for self defense is one thing (a man that won't defend his family is worse than a heathen it states in the old testament) But what about someone like John Wayne Gacy. He literally said he ENJOYS it and would DO IT AGAIN if released. Torture and murder is his pleasure. God says "send them to me for JUDGEMENT (again HIS NOT OURS) AND quite frankly if we did, as God said "these things will cease to happen among you" If you believe God is all powerful and loving and fair, then you must agree that His discernment is in tact and wouldn't punish someone who say, was a police officer and had to shoot a man down before that man continues a KILLING SPREE vs. a man who drives around looking for kids to rape and kill. You REALLY can't see the difference between these two examples? Then I guess it's a good thing He gave us HIS judgements. When Christians aren't busy bleeding their hearts out for psychopathic murderers, they seem busy judging people to hell. Funny how they can take the place of God as judge for an eternal soul (we have NO BUSINESS judging someone's final destination) but they won't budge on obeying His earthly judgements.
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The death penalty needs to be applied properly and obviously carefully, but yes, it is biblical.
Perhaps, but should the state have full control over who to execute for ~$20 million? Personally I think it is better to just lock them up alone for the rest of their life.
@@sharkybrickfilms99120 do we have control of politicians?
No.
Correct.
Capital punishment is Biblical.
@@endtimesareuponus8930 democratic republic. We have the right to vote, and the right to keep and bear arms when the vote doesn't work.
The death penalty is valid in scripture for certain crimes and it's not just in the Old Testament. Just read what is going to happen when Christ returns. The problem today is the lies and corruption in a lawless system for the death penalty to be applied as it was meant.
Christ is the only Perfect Person who ever lived. He and He alone can give the death penalty. He commands us
If anyone is without sin, let him cast a stone at her
@@rubenthompson5900 you're taking that verse out of context.
Jesus didn't nullify the OT laws.
Way to many people misinterpret the old testament. It is God alone who decides who will live or die.
Jesus lived by the old testament and never changed anything that it informed us about but only delivered a message of mans changing of its meaning and the rituals that were an abomination to the father.
What do you think "turn the other cheek" means? How about "love thy enemy"?
Mathew 6 14-15
For if you forgive men their trespasses, I your heavenly father will also forgive you: but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will the father forgive your trespasses.
So if you forgive someone and then kill them how have you walked in Jesus footsteps? What chance gave you given a fellow sinner to repent? Are we the judges? Were does it say that in the bible?
Jesus did do away with a lot in the OT. It also says an eye for an eye. You do know God sent the Israelites into battle right?
Read the book of Judges
Matthew 5:38-48
New International Version
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
And God Already said in Genesis 9 who will die.
But what about when the civil government in place is not "for the people"?
Where did god say “by some delegates appointed authority”
I liked the Romans quote tho
Romans 13. Government as the Angel of God's vengeance.
Nice Read on Capital Punishment: kgov.com/god-and-death-penalty-what-does-the-bible-say-about-capital-punishment?fbclid=IwAR0bXPZkKY2pqkvsIexUbOMfoldoqmoHy2oNONbOQM5KJEpmpDVnratds2E
It doesn't say that exact quote. If, for some reason, you think it needs to say that exact statement I'd like to know why so I can help further but Romans 13 does lay out a clear example for the government and its role.
Did Jesus die for sinners? Are murderers sinners? Can they be forgiven? Should all murderers be put to death? What if that murderer repents and becomes a believer?
>Did Jesus die for sinners? Are murderers sinners? Can they be forgiven?
Yes, to all of those questions.
>Should all murderers be put to death?
According to the Bible, you need at least two witnesses to convict a murderer and put him to death, so if you want a technical answer, no.
>What if a murderer repents and becomes a believer?
What’s your point?
What if the person is wrongfully convicted. It happens. Then you can't bring the person back. On that basis alone nobody should ever support the death penalty.
Then Judgement will fall to man and the wrongfully accused will be by God's side.
When one is rightfully punished because of his crime and he is repentant about it, A man must not fear for he will sit beside God,, regardless of his past sin. In short, it is all about eternal life and not worldly. Well, that is my opinion.
@@sanmiguel316 The wrongfully accused will be by God's side? If that's the case then we should all have no problem with abortion and all of the babies will also be by God's side, correct?
@@josephscala6707 how do you make that jump in logic? The unborn are undeniably innocent. It's not analagous
@@jakobvanguilder8750 It's completely analogous. Jiji hope said that the wrongfully accused will be by god's side. You can say the exact same thing about aborted babies.
@@josephscala6707 if it were completely analagous then placing the unborn into the seat of someone accused of murder would be the same thing. But that makes no sense. Fetuses are exterminated for the purpose of not "inconveniencing" their parents. A murder suspect is exterminated for deliberately killing someone. Not even close to the same thing lol
But *when* is it permitted and apparently authorised by God?
Nice answer without equivocating.
Who the death-penalty booster speaking in this video?
That why there is confusion because the books of the Bible is incomplete. But the wicked and his wickedness must die. The kings of the Bible all rules has death penalty that even God the creator burned sodom and gamorah.
How ridiculous. Not a single quote from Christ whose entire teachings promote non, forgiveness and mercy.
Question: is capital punishment compatible with the Sermon on the Mount? Of course not, it is utterly antithetical to it.
There is so much darkness in the world.
That's Protestantism for you
No one has the right to judge another person to death
God does. He judges, but man, specifically civil authorities, which happened to be placed by God, have the responsibility to carry out what God commands.
God said man not state
@@adamsmith-qy2uv The state _can_ kill people, but only if done in defense when there is no other option to detain them. Besides, there are many nuanced issues with the death penalty: it costs about ~$20 million for the execution, people are wrongfully executed about 4% of the time, people who murder white folks are more likely to be executed than those who murder blacks, many people executed are mentally ill.
@geace0724
I pray for you.
I wish people would read your comments, see how Argumentative you are and how you Lie, then Pray for you.
No. The death penalty is absurd in our times. Its always wrong. I am the victim of violent crime that lead to death, and still i say no. Never.
It does not matter what you say or think, IF god has given us something we should do.
@@Uddevalla00 absolutely. You are right. God punishes. Therefore we should not
Only God can give and take human life. You like it or not even the worst crimunal was created with an immortal soul that image God. Put him in jail, yes, and As christians we should pray for them to convert and visit them in prison, that is what Jesus teaches, they still can be redempted. He rescued PAUL, who used to be a killer. Who can know Gods plan for that person. So confused!
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Why are you going back to the Old Testament? Jesus brought a new Covent and was clear about retributive acts. Jesus support for the death penalty is recorded nowhere! What is quite clearly recorded is his abhorrence for acts of retribution.
Most of the biblical writing supporting the death penalty comes from the Old Testament. Should we not be focusing primarily on the New Testament and Jesus’ unwavering love and compassion and forgiveness?
After all as I understand it, God is the only judge and only God can take life (often an argument used against abortion). Jesus came down to to give us a new covenant changing our relationship to the Old Testament.
‘Let him who is without sin cast the first stone’ is a clear indication that Jesus did not support the death penalty in a time and place in the world which supported it?
Most of the laws in the Old Testament, we as Christians don’t adhere to so why do so many Christians go back to the Old Testament to support the death penalty?
Even going back to the Old Testament the commandment ‘thou shalt not kill’ is one of the clearest. It does not make reference to innocents or criminals. It does not make exceptions it simply and clearly states, don’t kill!
This view is again referenced in Matthew 5:21-22 where he goes on to add ‘anyone who is angry with a brother or a sister will be subject to judgement’. I don’t see how support for the death penalty is honouring this New Testament teaching?
I’m not saying murderers shouldn’t be severely punished but using murder itself as a punishment for murder goes against another clear point made further on in the gospel of Matthew which starts; ‘ you have heard it was said eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth…’
Here it is made clear that the retributive and violent conduct in the Old Testament is not acceptable anymore. Its saying there is a new covenant brought by Jesus. One which doesn’t promote violence and killing.
These are the reasons I am unable to make sense of the Christian argument for the death penalty? Jesus clearly disagreed with the retributive violence in the Old Testament and sought to change it.
As Christians we are instructed to follow his teaching before all else! I don’t feel we can ignore New Testament teaching and Jesus own words and actions to pick and choose between what Jesus said and what is in the Old Testament because of our own views on the death penalty. Jesus was clear in his actions and teachings on this. Who are we to pick and choose which parts of his message we listen to and don’t?
You dont follow bible laws, we do.
@@homepcmacbook5996 I follow Christ and his teachings
live life except the infant children
Jesus didn't support the death penalty? Have you not read his words in Matthew 15:4? Here he is confirming the death penalty as was described in Exodus 21:17.
@@gskessingerable so you’re going to ignore everything he said about pacifism and turn to a verse which was supposed to be about Jews following their own made up laws?
Turn the other cheek? Thou shalt not murder? It seems as if the topic of capital punishment is not black and white. So what is the solution? Do we play God and choose when someone has to make their eternal decision by? Or do we let them live out the rest of their life secluded from society so that they can’t hurt anyone else, and in doing so give God time to work on their heart in hopes of salvation?
Capital punishment is not murder.
Turn the other cheek is a command for individuals, not the government. The government is instituted by God. You don't want to punish and retaliate on your own accord, because you have a flawed mindset. The government doesn't have to abide by these rules because the system isn't flawed like us.
Basically, you can't be a vigilante, let government and law enforcement help you with your problems
Some of the American Indians punished law breakers by making them live on a island for how long I don't know.
Isnt all life is sacred in the eyes of God and deserve the right to repent?
If you support capital punishment, you're supporting satans power in this world, and turn away from God.
Jesus is Lord, God and Saviour.
+2J
Punishment is actually not a very effective teacher! It may teach people not to do something, but at a great cause to their spiritual progress and ability to Love themselves; to Love life and to Love others, which is the ultimate lesson.
People who receive "punishment," are full of shame or anger and resentment; and this is the hell people must learn to release themselves.
Punishment leads to further sinful entrenchment and misery, it's ultimately counterproductive to spiritual progress.
Punishment is Satan's way to remedy crimes and mistakes, and people have yet to recognize its ineffectiveness.
Punishment perpetuates pain and negativity, and does not heal; all crimes, mistakes and suffering are caused by Satan.
So the solution is not to entrench people further into their sin by "punishing" them, but to give them what might help them see that they are not sinners.
Love is what heals and brings people out of sin, and nothing else.
Love, acceptance, kindness, compassion and attention are the balms that heal.
Wow this is so very beautiful. Thank you. God bless you
You are a lier, and your words are from the devil himself!
@@inactivemogul403
The devil hates Love and those who preach of Love! Therefore... Jesus is not your Messiah... Barabbas is your Messiah.
Likewise, hitler, osoma bin laden and others like them are your so call Messiah(s); for they manifested the god of jealousy and wrath.
@@edgarmorales4476 What love are you talking about, would you love someone who killed your brother or son.. Come on stop the nonsense
@@thelionofdesert7739
Love your enemies! Forgive those who use and persecute you, the day of forgiveness is at hand.
Yes! Forgive them all!
All who embrace violence shall perish by violence!
Don't let your zeal blind you to the truth!
Heaven will not be built by murder and uprisings!
The Love and Wisdom of God will fill the Earth as water fills the sea, the lion will lie down with the lamb, there will be no more killing or destroying; and the voice of weeping should be heard no more.
Say 10 Dum B
God decides who dies
He already told us in Genesis 9
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If taking another human being life is such a hateful act why does god kill so many people? Also separation of church and state is a thing sir.
@i freaking love kfc God has taken life away justly as the judicial system does, there is no wrongdoing in taking a murders’ life however it depends on the circumstance
because live on earth is just a test for the eternal life
If it wasn’t for capital punishment, there would be no Easter.
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you realise how stupid this is? please tell me that you are joking and i'm just being dumb lol
That's a little stupid bro
Imagine arguing that the death penalty is good because God himself died at the hands of the death penalty. That’s literally the primary argument against it.
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It’s true but not really an argument for capital punishment more of an argument against.
It’s all about control and your will to push your sense of morality on others… that’s what the bible is.
Without stealing from the Christian worldview, please explain what morality is?
If you’re an atheist then what’s wrong with stardust harming other stardust?
Again, without taking from what’s biblically defined as morality.
Without God you have no moral point of reference.
If you’re an atheist how can you can even try to define what morality is?
Given that atheism follows the rule of evolution that would logically imply that all human ‘morals’ are an evolutionary process.
As such, that would mean morals should be constantly evolving.
If that is the case then you can’t claim that morality is not a product of God or faith.
Basically what u claim to he right today could be wrong tmrw because your atheism has no point of reference that gives u the moral right n Wrong. If it’s simply a product of evolution then you have shot yourself in the foot.
And what book of faith did the communists follow? Given that under communism more people were murdered then all the centuries of ‘religious’ murder.
Jesus Christ already paid for the sins of who repents and confesses Him as Lord. It is finished.
Who are we to judge a man that may repent and become a christian while in prison?
We christians are not to pay evil with evil. We are to forgive, we are to pray (even for our enemies). We are to be merciful.
Jesus Christ Himself is even an example of how men judged wrongly, being the Just crucified.
People who have sex contrary to the nature, criminals, whatever... They may be called later in life. We do not know. God knows.
Even Saul that was persecuting christians, God used Him. He died for sin as Saul and born again in righteousness as Paul.
Killing the killer is killing on your part. Killing the killer is still murder.
In the Hebrew the word for "killing" and "murder" are entirely different. There is in fact even an outline for what the Hebrews called "manslaughter" and soldiers were actually Instructed to kill under God's Word. The Caininites for example.
There is a reason for it.
We are not to go out killing people vigilante style or for revenge. But to eliminate EVIL people that make it known they are evil and would HAPPILY do it again!
A person who kills someone drunk driving is an irresponsible awful person if we judge them in that event. And there should be consequences. However this is a person that can also feel remorse and wants to spend the rest of their lives making up for it. God is judge yes. But He has given us HIS holy judgements to execute, it's not our saying but HIS.
An accidental killing or for self defense is one thing (a man that won't defend his family is worse than a heathen it states in the old testament)
But what about someone like John Wayne Gacy. He literally said he ENJOYS it and would DO IT AGAIN if released. Torture and murder is his pleasure. God says "send them to me for JUDGEMENT (again HIS NOT OURS) AND quite frankly if we did, as God said "these things will cease to happen among you"
If you believe God is all powerful and loving and fair, then you must agree that His discernment is in tact and wouldn't punish someone who say, was a police officer and had to shoot a man down before that man continues a KILLING SPREE vs. a man who drives around looking for kids to rape and kill. You REALLY can't see the difference between these two examples?
Then I guess it's a good thing He gave us HIS judgements.
When Christians aren't busy bleeding their hearts out for psychopathic murderers, they seem busy judging people to hell. Funny how they can take the place of God as judge for an eternal soul (we have NO BUSINESS judging someone's final destination) but they won't budge on obeying His earthly judgements.