The justice system in the USA is a Joke if you haven't the capacity to lawyer up on your own dime. 1) The state has unlimited resources to pursue a case and the Defense doesn't. 2) The practices that keeps our prisons filled are: a) the ability of the prosecution to allow a defendant to plead to a lesser charge. b)The over charging of a defendant creates the possibility of the defendant facing many years of incarceration and this induces even innocent people to play it safe and accept a plea deal. c) In actual fact you are guilty when charged and even if the defendant is innocent or not guilty your good character is destroyed for life. 3) The entire criminal justice system is based on the state being able to induce a defendant into pleading guilty without going to trial. the word extortion comes to mind. The system would fall apart if everyone demanded a trial. I would wager that >=10% of the convicted folks in the USA are either innocent or not guilty. In contrast the military Justice system is far more in line with the constitution and the notion of fairness. 1) unlike the civilian system charges can not be altered to conform with what the prosecution feels they can prove in court. 2) Plea bargains can not be offered once charges are filed. 3) The prosecution and the defense have equal resources. 4) In The military system a higher court will automatically review the case and has the power to set aside the verdict, reduce the penalties levied. 5) Once dismissed by the court the defendant can not be recharged for that same offence under military law. I pity anyone that faces a civilian trial for a serious offence because the system is unfair to those that don't have deep pockets.
It seems as if a lot of penal acts that are called corrections in the United States- and likely in other countries- are more of a sanitizing social mechanism, where the individual at hand or on trial is removed from society, removing the possibility of them contaminating our "free" system. In other words, the corrections facilities quite frequently do not aim for correcting or helping the person convicted of a crime... even when their crime was a victimless crime that did not cause any dysfunction or abuse to others. 15:57 - 16:04 I heard that.
There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’.
You should really title this in a way that reflects your biased point of view. Just as those who are pro Death Penalty should title their speech similarly.
Does this TED Talk consider men, regardless of race, are more likely than women to be condemned? That always makes me frustrated speaking as a man that it's always "race" that we discuss in terms of the legal system's mistakes rather than stopping to consider the misandry that's so endemic to it.
Sure, they’re all innocent! Just open the gates & let them all out! Actually, this guy would have you believe that there are no murderers, no criminals at all! What you see is an abject refusal to protect ourselves from those great guys who would do us harm. He is living in a fantasy world! Pollyanna people like this put all the rest of us at risk!
The justice system in the USA is a Joke if you haven't the capacity to lawyer up on your own dime.
1) The state has unlimited resources to pursue a case and the Defense doesn't.
2) The practices that keeps our prisons filled are:
a) the ability of the prosecution to allow a defendant to plead to a lesser charge.
b)The over charging of a defendant creates the possibility of the defendant facing many years of incarceration and this induces even innocent people to play it safe and accept a plea deal.
c) In actual fact you are guilty when charged and even if the defendant is innocent or not guilty your good character is destroyed for life.
3) The entire criminal justice system is based on the state being able to induce a defendant into pleading guilty without going to trial. the word extortion comes to mind. The system would fall apart if everyone demanded a trial.
I would wager that >=10% of the convicted folks in the USA are either innocent or not guilty.
In contrast the military Justice system is far more in line with the constitution and the notion of fairness.
1) unlike the civilian system charges can not be altered to conform with what the prosecution feels they can prove in court.
2) Plea bargains can not be offered once charges are filed.
3) The prosecution and the defense have equal resources.
4) In The military system a higher court will automatically review the case and has the power to set aside the verdict, reduce the penalties levied.
5) Once dismissed by the court the defendant can not be recharged for that same offence under military law.
I pity anyone that faces a civilian trial for a serious offence because the system is unfair to those that don't have deep pockets.
Yes!!!!!!!!! That was so refreshing to read. You absolutely couldn't have said ANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better.
This is great. I shared it on my Facebook page and cited you.
The death penalty is "alive and well" in this country, even in states that have abolished it! Gangs and drug sellers give it to each other.
It seems as if a lot of penal acts that are called corrections in the United States- and likely in other countries- are more of a sanitizing social mechanism, where the individual at hand or on trial is removed from society, removing the possibility of them contaminating our "free" system. In other words, the corrections facilities quite frequently do not aim for correcting or helping the person convicted of a crime... even when their crime was a victimless crime that did not cause any dysfunction or abuse to others. 15:57 - 16:04 I heard that.
instablaster.
There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once
for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’.
Update- Unfortunately, the California ballot initiative he mentioned, prop 62, did not pass.
The students he was speaking to were too young to vote?
The amount they upload
The death penalty is never, ever acceptable.
Would you say that if one of your loved ones were murdered?
is it an economic activity?
Justice
March 2019: California Governor Gavin Newsom issued a moratorium on capital punishment, effectively saving 737 lives.
Hopefully California will abolish the death penalty in the coming months.
this is not accurate.
explain yourself
I don’t know how he smelled burning flesh if Ohio hasn’t used the electric chair since 1963
You should really title this in a way that reflects your biased point of view. Just as those who are pro Death Penalty should title their speech similarly.
I don't think his biased has anything to do with the facts... Facts are facts innit
oh my... watch Dennis Prager on the subject instead...
Oh sure, the U.S. would have been such a better place with Ted Bundy still in it. Darn it; why did they have to fry him?! Such a loss...
Haha. I feel ya. Why don't serial killers only end up with idiots who oppose the Death Penalty? That would be awesome.
@@RosannaMiller So because serial killers kill people it's ok to do the same to them?
That makes you no better.
Does this TED Talk consider men, regardless of race, are more likely than women to be condemned? That always makes me frustrated speaking as a man that it's always "race" that we discuss in terms of the legal system's mistakes rather than stopping to consider the misandry that's so endemic to it.
Sure, they’re all innocent! Just open the gates & let them all out! Actually, this guy would have you believe that there are no murderers, no criminals at all!
What you see is an abject refusal to protect ourselves from those great guys who would do us harm. He is living in a fantasy world! Pollyanna people like this put all the rest of us at risk!
Explain then why countries without the death penalty have lower crime rates than in the United States...
@@gaiita very good point.
@@gaiita because the US hardly executes anyone
Homogenous populations
@@gaiitabecause death penalty has most likely not having to do with anything with it, majority comes from illegal immigration.