MJJC Pro vs MTM PF22.2 | Which is the Best Snow Foam Cannon?
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- Here is an in-depth comparison between the MJJC Foam Cannon Pro (V2) and MTM PF22.2 Foam Cannon. I’m looking at the foam thickness/ consistency, and the different features of each foam lance and letting you know which I think is the best option.
The MTM foam lance was purchased by myself and the MJJC was sent by the brand to review around 1.5 years ago. All my opinions expressed in the video are honest.
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UK Links:
- MJJC Foam Cannon Pro: www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
- MTM PF22.2 Foam Cannon: www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
US Links:
- MJJC Foam Cannon (Amazon): amzn.to/3Xei7nP
- MTM PF22.2 Foam Cannon (Car Supplies Warehouse): bit.ly/3EtBVLa
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Snow Foams Used:
- Autobrite Magifoam (Test #1): www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
- Bilt Hamber Touch-Less (Test #2): www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
- Stjarnagloss Sno (Test #3 with 1% PIR): www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
Pressure Washer Equipment:
- Upgraded Karcher Hose: www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
- MTM SGS35: www.in2detailing.co.uk/produc...
Additional Info:
- Pressure washer: Karcher K4
- Orifice in both foam cannons was 1.25 mm
- Autobrite Magifoam used at 1 in 10 dilution (50 ml into 450 ml water)
- BH Touch-Less used at 2 in 5 dilution (200 ml into 300 ml water)
- Stjarnagloss Sno in MJJC = 52 ml to 448 ml water
- Stjarnagloss Sno in MTM = 90 ml to 410 ml water
PIR Calculations:
- Filled bottle with 500 ml of solution
- Measured total amount dispensed by foam cannon (9 litres for MTM, 5.2 litres for MJJC)
- Calculated 1% panel impact ratio
- MJJC: 1% of 5.2 litres = 52 ml
- MTM: 1% of 9 litres = 90 ml
- Rest of bottle filled to 500 ml with water
Link to video on how to calculate PIR: • How to Quickly Calcula...
Timestamps:
0:00 MTM PF22.2 vs MJJC Pro
0:37 Foam Test #1
1:41 Foam Test #2
2:14 Drain Rate Comparison
3:29 Foam Consistency with Same PIR
4:58 Adjustability Features
6:03 Bottle Designs
7:30 Pickup Pipe
7:48 Changing the Orifice
8:35 Changing the Gauze Filter
9:28 Build Quality
10:15 Which Foam Cannon is Best?
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Thanks for watching!
The best comparison I have ever seen
The most scientific comparison I have seen on TH-cam. Thank you!
Best review I've seen for a foam cannon. Very thorough very informative.
You covered everything that anyone would want to know about both of these in direct comparison and more. Absolutely amazing review you did there. Said it before and i'm saying it again : so glad you randomly popped up in my recommendations last year.
Thanks so much! I did my best to try and make it as comprehensive as I could so I appreciate that feedback!
Thanks Heather for the comprehensive video. I'm serious considering the MJJC after watching your review.
Best comparison I have seen on foam cannons. Well done, I look forward to more to come.
Thanks very much!
No other comparison is needed after this one, for people like me, who were hesitating which one to purchase :) Thank you so much for the professionalism. Cheers
Thanks for watching!
Another fantastic review. Really up there are the best comparison reviews.
Thanks very much!
*Best compare video you got me after **1:41** minutes to buy the MJJC Pro*
*Thank you*
Great comparison! You're wise beyond your years!
Incredibly detailed video. Thanks for creating 👍
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review, Heather. Very comprehensive. Thanks for posting.
Cheers David!
Excelent video, most indepth review of foam cannons ive seen. Great job!
Thanks very much!
Once again another fantastic and informative video Heather 👍🏼
Cheers Mark!
Great video I'm glad I went for the mjjc last year , no complaints just Big smiles everytime I use it
Thanks for watching, it's a great foam cannon!
Great review covered more things than an usual comparison video. 👏
Thanks Jack!
Hi Heather, thank you for another really enjoyable and informative video. I bought Autoglym's snow foam cannon which I've been happy to use for the past year. I look forward to seeing your next video.
Thanks for watching Simon!
Great comparison between the two. I really love my MJJC and definitely think it is one of the best on the market. Great video Heather 👍
Thank you! It’s a great lance, I can see why it’s such a popular choice!
@@AutoCareHQ no worries and for sure 👍
Great video Heather. The MJJC V2 is a fantastic cannon, we were offering these under our own brand last year before the distribution rights were awarded to another company. The only very minor downside is the flow rate, they certainly burn through product very quickly. As you pointed out though, this can be counteracted by adjusting the PIR. Aside from that, they are amazing cannons.
Thank you! Agreed, the flow rate is pretty intense especially compared to the MTM but even a minor tweak on the dial can reduce it quite a bit so I guess it's probably a bit more versatile compared to the MTM where the flow can't be adjusted that high
Great breakdown of information! Amazing job thank you.
I love the MJJC nothing beats it, great job… have a great week from 🇺🇸
Cheers Mike you too!
awesome detailed and informative video comparing the 2 snow foam cannons.
Thank you!
Nice review Heather ! Thanks 👍
Thank you!
Used both and really prefer the MJJC. Mainly for the bottle design, how well the pick-up performs and the consistency of the foam it produces. However, both are great foam cannons 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Heather, I purchased the MJJC cannon last year based on your recommendation and demonstrations. I couldn’t be happier with it. I honestly think it’s pretty much bomb proof and easy to strip and clean etc. it’s certainly head and shoulders above other cannons I have had in the past. I can’t see me ever moving away from this product unless MJJC bring out an updated version which is even better. Thanks for doing these comparison videos as the market is flooded with options and I know friends that have purchased a cannon without much research and ended up with really useless bits of junk which weren’t much cheaper. That is again Heather for your content and your honest, no nonsense views. Keep them coming !
I’m really glad you’re enjoying using the MJJC! It’s a cracking foam cannon. I noticed it was huge step up in performance when I started using it compared to a cheaper one too. Thanks very much got watching!
They have brought out a new version 3 recently 👍🏻
@@Mas-lx5nc Thanks for watching :) The new lance that’s popped up recently is the version 3 of the MJJC S which has been around for a while at the same time as the MJJC Pro. The latest version of the MJJC Pro is still version 2 that I’m using here
@@Mas-lx5nc yeah but that is a lower line compared to the pro here, that new one is the S line with practically just a new bottle but same specs.
Great review well done 👌🏻🇨🇦
Thanks Heather great info I do like the thicker foam concept.
Thanks for watching Stephen :)
Great video H. Recently changed from the Autoglym Polar Blaster lance, which I liked as a home hobbyist (and got for only £30), to the MJJC V2 and the latter is just SO much better with its foam spread and adjustability. With a K4 I use 200ml of BH Touch-less with 450ml water and the results on a strong dial mix setting are stupendous. Barely need any contact wash as the dirt disappears after the first rinse with a 25 or 40 degree nozzle - on well protected cars that is.. Absolutely delighted with it all.
Cheers John! The MJJC and Touch-Less are a great combo!
Went MJJC on your recommendation last year not looked back and also using it to shampoo car now.... Excellent video and product 👍
Thank you! I'm glad you're a fan of the MJJC, it's a great lance!
Great video! Nice comparisons!
Thanks Amy!
Hi Heather , many thanks for this video. After your test I will buy the mjjc, foam and the use looks better. Have a nice week end ! Bye
just came across this video by chance, Well done on giving a succinct detailed breakdown of the pros and cons of both foam cannons, as I need to purchase one. This video has just made me subscribe to your channel! ...Best wishes
Thanks Mark! Really glad you found the vid helpful 😊
Very informative video! Foaming is the funnest part.
Great video and some useful info. I've had my MJJC a while now and find it a nice bit of kit. I've yet to try it on my new pressure washer but on my old K5 was impressive.
Thanks Mark :)
Really good comparison Heather. So thorough and well produced, you are putting other channels to shame! I have 3 MJJC cannons which are used extensively. I really rate them the selling point for me being the wider neck. I always carry a spare bottle with plain water (any bottle will do, you dont need to screw it on) to flush my cannons at the end of each day. This way I keep them clean and dont need to empty the solutions. Why 3 cannons? Well one has B/H touchless one Koch Auto Foam and one KKD Blizzard. What i use depends on what the customer wants, how dirty the car is and how good the paint is. All these products have their own merits. I also have an AutoGlym cannon to apply my trusted Koch PW (Protector Wax) which is a great way to quickly lay on protection & shine and a nice up sell that is popular with my customers. Worth mentioning here that on my Navara which i purchased new in April I have only used Koch AF and PW. (no shampoo). (Can you tell am a BIG Koch Chemie fan?) The paint is swirl free and has great shine for a truck that really works hard for its living! Top Work here yet again from you
Thanks very much! Totally understand having a need for 3 cannons, I usually use three on most washes now too! One for the wheel shampoo, one for the snow foam and one for the contact wash shampoo. I need to try some more Koch Chemie products, I've only used Green Star and FSE but both are fantastic
Never doubted MJJC, Its preferred by almost all YT detailers i watch including you Heather, and i think MJJC have this new model i saw with Josh Vanderwall in San Diego
I’ve always wanted the mtm just to be one of those fancy stainless people but I have to agree the mjjc has more features m for the money and is really solid so I’ve not needed to upgrade it.
Nice to have a bit of a different video with an in depth comparison 👏🏼
Cheers Nick :) The MTM one does look really cool to be fair, not that the MJJC looks bad at all. Completely agree, with all the features on the MJJC it's tough to justify why the MTM is significantly more expensive
the reviewer said that mtm pf22.2 it is nickel plated brass 09:30
@@conandrum74 the middle part is nickel plated brass as Heather highlights but the fittings and associated accessories are all quality stainless steel which is what I was referring too here
I use MJJC. I find it excellent.
Great video 👍🏻
This is easily one of the most comprehensive, easy to watch, comparisons.
I’ve been considering an MJJC and although both cannons have their Pros and Cons, the MJJC’s ability to produce a wider range of foam from super thin to super thick just edges it for me I think!
Thanks very much Craig! Yep the MJJC definitely seems a bit more versatile with the option to either have that very quick drain rate or dial it back a bit. I don't think you can go wrong with either but with the MJJC having that wider neck and the fact it's about £15-£20 cheaper I reckon it's the best option out of the two
Can I just point out that the MJJC does in no way have the ability to mix a thicker foam vs a thinner foram. It's all in the premix. What the MJJC is poor at, and what creates an inferior foam, is the dry foam that is less aerated. See if you mix them so that the PIR is the same, the drag of the MTM foam is leaps and bounds ahead of the MJJC. And even if you dilute the MJJC foam so it drags better, you end up with a lower PIR, which is bad if you need the high PIR.
If you for example use Auto Foam as a prewash in a 5% PIR, the result you get from the MTM is better vs the MJJC with a 5% PIR. Also, if you turn the adjuster fully counter-clockwise on the MTM while it has a 5% PIR premix, you get way below 1% PIR, so adjusting it to be thin or thick is never an issue.
There's more to foaming up a car than just laying on useless shaving cream.
@@AB-80X not sure what you mean about them ‘mixing’ thicker vs. thinner foam. If it’s to do with my comment, I said the MJJC can produce a wider range from thicker to thinner.
Regarding PIR; a lot of cannons have different draw rates so 5% PIR would normally always be different in terms of chemical volume.
Many companies don’t state a PIR so in that case you can easily adjust the thickness of the foam however you please using the adjustment, especially if it is simply used to extend the dwell of prewash
@@thedetailinghobbyist You are misunderstanding PIR then. PIR is used so that it is NOT different. That is why PIR is a measure that is used in the high pressure cleaning world outside of car detailing. If PIR is 5% it is 5%, no matter what machine, foam lance or other dispenser you use. What you describe is the complete opposite.
Let me break it down. My MTM pulls 560 ml for every 9.5l of total output per minute. That means 8940 ml of that output is pure water. So for ever litre of my lance I have an output of 14965 ml of pure water. So 5& of 15965 is 798 ml or 800 ml for the sake of it. So if I fill my bottle with 400 ml of chem and 100 ml of water, I get a 5% PIR.
Now I have another lance from 26JPN which I primarily use for coatings these days, which is basically the same as an MJJC, but now with a 1.4 nozzle. For every 8 litre it pulls 660 ml. So a pure water output of 10100 ml for every litre out of the lance. That means 550 ml of chem for a full bottle or 275 ml chem and 225 ml for half a bottle if I want a 5% PIR. What ends up hitting the car is the EXACT same ratio. Yes, obviously you could potentially fill the entire bottle with soap, which would be absolutely ridiculous. I've spoken to Maguiar's, Chemical Guys, Auto Glanz, Gyeon and others who's products I use to get an understanding of what PIR they go for when they make their recommendations. See the issue is that BH is the only company that specifies PIR, which is a bit of an issue. But none of the above who all offer a heavy type foam for contact wash etc. want you to use a PIR of more than 3%. A 3% PIR is incredibly high for a thick form like a Sticky Snow, Maguiar's Ultimate Snow, Mr Pink etc. and they will start to have issues doing their job. So what's the point of the MJJC being able to pull that fast? Both can deliver a higher PIR than you'll ever need, but while doing so, the lower flow of the MJJC lowers the CU value which is directly proportional to flow which as Heather demonstrates is abysmally low for the MJJC. I can foam a car in less than 30 seconds with an MTM.
And now we get on to what was my next point. When both the MTM and the MJJC is set to the same PIR the way the MTM create the foam means that the product is more efficient and works better. Why? Because the foam coming out of the MJJC does not have the ability to penetrate nor pull down the dirt as well as the lighter more aerated foam of the MTM. This is not so much about PIR, but rather the actual quality of the foam itself which THEN relates to the PIR because the same amount of product put on by one lance is more efficient than the same amount of product from the other. Yes you can then lower the PIR and not get a foam that is quite as dry and thick, but you end up with a lower PIR and thus less cleaning ability from a chemical reaction standpoint.
So as like Heather did here, they need to be compared putting out the same PIR and then we need to look at what the foam laid out actually does. That's what you pay for with the MTM. Anyone can make a lance that pulls a ton of solution, that's not a bit deal, and what MJJC relies on for their wow factor. But how that mix is aerated and laid out is what actually shows the quality of the lance.
Are there other players on the market than MTM and MJJC? Absolutely. But MJJC is really the only ones that take the approach they take. Can't blame them. People are eating it up without asking questions because they think that the thicker the foam, the better the result.
@@AB-80X looks like your explaining exactly what has been said 🤷♂️
I stated 5% is different based on chemical volume (I.e. 5% of 10k isn’t the same as 5% of 15k) due to draw rate and you’ve explained exactly that 👍
BH aren’t the only company who specify PIR, just for info.
Mtm seems much better built and much good features great review and definitely going with mtm
Congratulations on winning the Best Content Interaction with the Rag Company! You deserve it!
Thanks so much!
Hi Heather, another excellent video, thank you.
I've not tried either as I currently have an Autoglym canon and use their Polar Blast, Wash & Seal range, which I find to be excellent products (as most Autoglym products are). I'll certainly take into account your review when it's time to change.
Cheers Stephen :) The Autoglym Polar range looks really good, I think I'll give it a go at some point
Very good video Heather. I personally give my vote to MJJC for exactly the same reasons you have mentioned in your verdict. 100% agreed. MJJC offers a bit more “freedom” compared to MTM. But MTM has a slightly better build quality. Spot on video, as always 🙌
Cheers Viktor! Hope you’re doing well 😊 Yep if I just had to keep one I’d go with the MJJC but both are brill. I usually end up using two foam cannons per wash anyway (for pre wash and contact wash) so I get the best of both worlds with these two 😂
Very good review, thank you for this, you got a sub👍🏾
the key selling point for me between the 2 when I was upgrading, was the wider opening of the MJJC, I felt that one of the major annoyances with my old canon was getting fluids in quickly and I really didn't want to be dealing with that in a premium canon if I had the choice 🙂👍
What a lot of us do who use these often, is to simply premix.
Getting the soap into the bottle is no longer the issue then, the entire process of even having to mix it is annoying and waste time.
What you do is to have a 25 l jug with premix that has a tap on it. Then the opening is no longer an issue. See that's the thing about the MTM. They made it for professional use, and most professionals and others who wash several times per week use this method. In this situation the small hole is stronger, less prone to stripping and just overall work better than messing about with two big plastic threads.
In short, each has its use and place. And if you think having a big 25 l jug is too much? Premix in a 5l with a tap on it. No more mess and 100% consistency.
@@AB-80X good point, well made!
Excellent video, start to finish!
Please make more product review / compare
Thank you! I've got some in the pipeline!
Wow...didn't think there was this much involved in cannons 😯👌
Just at the right time, recently changed my pressure washer so the ebay one is now a good time to retire it. I'm now on the part of trying to work out the parts and bits to connect (also want to go stubby gun rather than lance due to restricted space I have) so will upgrade hte whole thing. I've already decided on the MJJC but have heard a V3 is on the horizon so holding off for now to see what that brings, problem being I have no cannon at all atm. Great video packed with things I hadn't thought about but all re-confirms my thoughts in what i want in a foam cannon, at least, the MJJC is the way to go. The wide neck is a mandatory feature, if I'm spending that, I'm done with getting funnels and wet hands from using it.
Thanks for watching!
The new lance that’s popped up recently is the version 3 of the MJJC S which has been around for a while at the same time as the MJJC Pro. For some reason the MJJC S is barely stocked at any distributers especially in the UK so it’ll be interesting if it becomes more common with the new V3!
Hello Auto Care HQ and Also Happy New years 2023 and nice vidéo love all your work and product using for wash car tanks
Happy New Year to you too, thanks got watching!
Great video thanks!
I share some of the same concerns about the MTM. Plus mine leaks a bunch of solution out the nozzle when lowering the concentration knob past 4 notches from max. I will say mine produces much more foam that yours did using the MTM with a 1.1 orifice and a Ryobi 1600psi electric pressure washer. I've used Gyeon Foam and MTM's Perfoamance (30mL), both producing shaving cream-like consistency.
I have the MJJC and using GT snow foam at 1 in 10 to make 1 litre I find it’s plenty enough to cover my Ford Puma with a good coverage Heather 😄
Great video Heather, personally i think the MTM is better quality but is over priced, good canon though.I always seem to reach for the MJJC this time of year when using shampoo through a lance and want a thick layer of suds for the contact wash, i have a spare MJJC bottle i use for foam , only have a few hours wash time ,due to 2.00pm work finish and limited day light .also to cold to spend to much time outdoors for me. Citrus , magifoam on top (long dwell time) quickly do the wheels .rinse , change bottle shampoo, contact wash, rinse, wetcoat, rinse, dry, tidy up and done(knacked lol) All the best :)
Thank you! Yeah it's a shame the MTM is so pricey as it's a really great foam cannon but the cost I can imagine will put a lot of people off with there being so many cheaper options out there. These dark nights are not ideal, roll on spring 😂
Good video, I tried the first MJJC one and just bought the MJJC V2 and been waiting for right weather to try it, I paid £38 for it over the Black Friday sale, was only 10% off but better than nothing, I like how the bottle has a big opening so no funnel required, that’s one thing I hate on other lances where you can’t use it without a funnel. weathers been horrible and I been away over Christmas so haven’t had time to wash my car, hopefully tomorrow I’ll get to try it or the next day, I’m looking forward to the thick foam, noticed can get replacement bottle for the MJJC Lance for £9 from china, which is good as it’s nice to have a spare or just use 2 instead of washing the bottle if you want to change liquids, you can just fill both up ready before you start the car wash
Cheers Imran! A replacement bottle is a great idea, it's always a bit of a pain emptying the tank out if you've not drained it all and want to use another product
@@AutoCareHQ Yes that’s true, also if you need to quickly wash it out then it starts foaming up inside and takes a bit of time to wash it properly, it is easier than other lances as the opening is wider so it’s a lot easier to clean, I don’t think I’ll ever go back to the other lances which require a funnel to top up as the hole is smaller it makes cleaning it alot harder, I bought the foam Lance from in2detailing but couldn’t find a replacement bottle in UK, maybe it would be too expensive anyway
Nice video Heather and good to have ratio and panel etc each does . The information that you get can make clearer your choice you make would be
Cheers Andy 😊
Hi Heather, I have both and prefer my MJJC.
I use both but mainly my MJJC.
Thanks for watching Steve. I’m the same, usually I fill up the MTM with something I’ll use for the next few washes like the Garage Therapy shampoo and then use the MJJC for the pre-wash snow foam as I switch that up more so the quick drain rate is handy!
@@AutoCareHQ im exactly the same.
I do love my PA Lance and my Sutner ugly duckling I got in my Kranzle kit.
Great detailed video Heather, MTM foam cannons as standard come with a 1.4mm orifice this is better if you have a high output pressure washer. The PIR I guess may be affeceted by the orifice size. I do up my dilution slightly to get the right foam and there is much less load on my Kranzle. .
Thanks very much Patrick :) Everywhere I looked does the the MTM with the 1.25mm orifice as standard, possibly this has changed since you purchased yours?
@@AutoCareHQ Hi I have had one since launch and I bought one last year. Both have a 1.4mm orifice despite the sellers saying it comes with a 1.25mm! You might find your Kranzle 10/22 will also have less strain on it with a 4.5 nozzle on wash gun I keep my unloader in the middle.
Love your videos well presented❤
Thanks Raymond!
Hi Heather,
I’ve had my MJJC i while now and I wouldn’t want to change it,it so good.
I’m surprised you managed to have a dry day to do this video,it seem like it been nothing but rain in the UK lately.
Thanks for watching :) I actually filmed this in late November before the weather went really cold. I'm glad I did now as I've barely been able to film anything since with the weather being so bad!
Thanks nicely 👍 done❤
Although I know what I want from a foam Cannon great informative video this is
Thanks Dave!
Interesting video. If I was to upgrade I think MJJC for me with the wider neck and the ball at the bottom of the pick up pipe.
Cheers John, the wider neck on the MJJC is miles easier for filling and rinsing
Another great video heather the mjjc one looks like it has the edge but I suppose it's personal choice at the end of the day they are going to come in handy with this horrible weather lol
Thanks Dave! Yep I don’t think you can go wrong with either, I’m very happy with both of them and use them interchangeably now
Great review (infact the best review) of the top two foam cannons. I’ve been using the MTM, but have never really been happy with the thickness of snow foam. Even tried initially mixing the snow foam with distilled water, which helped a little. But will now try an MJJC one, thanks to your review.
Just subscribed 👍🏼
Thanks Barry!
Maybe try and measure your PIR so that you get the correct ratio?
@@AB-80X Many thanks - tried that first of all but still not great foam. Going to increase the pressure on my Kranzle
@@barrywakefield4942 Which Kränzle do you use? I run the 10/122 and have zero issues. Always make sure it is turned all the way up. If you decrease pressure on the machine, you reduce flow. What pressure does your machine show when using the 1.25 orifice when the pressure is not dialed back?
@@AB-80X Hi, I’ve got the 1152TST and I can set any pressure that I want. I was using about 1000psi, so will up that to maybe 1300psi and see how that goes.
Very scientific video 😱
Purchased a Mjjc few years ago with the karcher end then realised I had a adapter on my k2 for quick release,was getting harder and harder to put the foam cannon on the k2 bought a 1/4 quick release of the bay and like you said on the cannon it was glued on and hard as nails to remove but now it’s mint with a quick release no more messing about just click cannon on or click 25degree nozzle on I’m just a weekend warrior and use crap snow foam but have loads of it it’s proper thick but doesn’t sit on the car for long and doesn’t seem to clean that good,so I’m waiting to use it up and get some proper snow foam with cleaning power
Which snow foam are you using? There's so many out there and everyone has a different preference,m but, I have to say I'm happy with Bilt Hamber Autofoam, if that helps with your next purchase.
Cheap crap of eBay,pro Kleen bought 10ltrs of the stuff and it doesn’t seem to go think the fairy’s are filling it up🤣
MJJC for the win for me😄 specially because of the price and the opening is wide because obviously the MJJC makes a thicker foam
Thicker foam is not that usefull
@@Defiansy why not? Because you can use less product and still have a thicker foam which pulls more dirt from my experience.
@@1stfrompuertorico568 cause the foam won't pull down and still sits on the paint, if you use thinner foam // good pre cleaner foam that actually lift the dirt off the paint and runs down with the foam off the panel, while thicker foam sits on the paint and cause it's not running down and you take your pressure washer you still blow all the dirt into de Paint.
@@Defiansy that's why I use with the MJJC less soap in order to make it thinner and I save more while making it pull down the dirt. I don't want it to be sitting there on the paint. But if it is with Wash Chem 100 or 50 on an extremely dirty vehicle it will be dwelling and pulling that dirt out excellently.
I've recently purchased the Mjjc, although I haven't used it yet. I bought it as a replacement for a taller foam canon with an opening similar to the MTM, and it was a bit of a pain to fill due to a narrow opening. Curious to know how the adjustable blades on the Mjjc became bent.
Mjjc is a standard m22, your can pick these up on ebay or amazon for less then £10
Stepping up the science Heather, very enjoyable to watch.
Did you remember to return your Mum’s measuring jug? 😆
Haha cheers Steve!
Hi heather, thanks for doing the comparison!
I went with the MJJC and I’m happy with the performance.
In relation to the orifice, did you step down to the smaller one when using your K4 before you got the Kranzle? And if so was there much difference?
It’s a K4 I have, hence the reason I ask 👍🏼
Thanks for watching Brian 😊 on the K4 I’d still go with a 1.25 mm orifice, the 1.1 mm is a touch small so the risk of back pressure is gonna be higher
Hi heather love the video watch from Scotland glasgow I have the new MJJC but foam pretty crap out it I don’t no if I’m diluting it to much ?
I have the mjjc pro 2.0 with the 1.1mm orifice and I like it. Idk about the other one you reviewed, Im not a fan of that small fill neck.
Nice video 👍🏻
Thanks!
Just purchased a MJJC pro V2, didn't have a clue about the different sized orifices,...cheers
Got both, use both, both good. Mjjc makes thicker foam but seems to sheet off, the mtm produces a slightly thinner foam and makes it cling better to the paint due to this. Is thicker foam better- it's debatable. I find the MTM easier to use while applying the foam but the mj easier to fill due to its wide filling neck but hard to see the markings on the side so I'm still using the measuring beaker so there's no advantage of this. Mjjc feels like a more premium made product but will it last longer, probably not. I can't decide which I prefer so both are staying, it's always good to have x2 encase one brakes down.
Great comparison video, even though I have the MTM and you've insulated me and my family 😂 Joking. Perhaps my next/second foam cannon will be the mjjc
Thank you! Haha they're both great, can't go wrong with either!
Not long had the mtm Heather and still getting used to it. Agree that maybe you need a bit more product in the mix to get the desired foam, but after the garage therapy forensic review debarcle and the way in which their foams work, I wanted to ensure I didn't have a dry foam too thick, with foam having good wetting ability, I avoided the mjjc. Mind you I agree the wide neck filling is a better idea on the mjjc. Time will tell though....
You can't go wrong with either to be honest. The MJJC has more potential for thicker foam with it having that faster draw rate but it's a bit harder to dial in a nice consistency with some foams like the GT one. The MTM is a cracking foam cannon and the consistency is always spot on
You know that you can adjust the top knob for desired foam? If it's too thick, you can adjust that but if it's runny foam you can't improve it much so MJJC is still more flexible
Yeah the MJJC is probably more versatile in that respect as the flow rate can be adjusted to a greater range compared to the MTM
@@duyvu8662 Wrong. Just premix in the MTM so that the PIR is maxed out. It can always be done. There are no actual snow foams that will need to be non-mixed. Most heavy foams for the contact wash will rarely need to be more than 1-2% PIR and then you're laying it on super thick. If you use a prewash like the Auto Foam which calls for a max of 5% PIR, that's not an issue either. The only thing the MJJC allows you to do is to use too much product while providing you with a dry foam.
Also the dry less aerated foam of the MJJC is much less effective at dragging off dirt, especially if the PIR is the same between the two.
Get yourself a jug of 5l, 10l or 25l with a tap on it. Premix your foam in that. Depending on what jug size you choose, you can mix in that large jug once per year, and every time you fill your flask there's no mess and it takes only seconds. Mix it to the highest PIR you'll think you'll ever need, then just use the adjuster to set the amount of foam for the job - that's what it is there for. And the great thing about the MTM is that it clicks so you can actually measure out how many clicks give you a specific PIR. It doesn't get any easier once you've gotten that sorted.
Hi Heather. Have you tried out the MJJC Foam Cannon V3.0? In two minds whether to go for that or the Pyramid one you recommend so any thoughts would be very appreciated. Thanks
I have the Griot's BOSS Foam Cannon which is similar to these two in build quality and price and an extremely good cannon on producing foam. The reason I went with that one was the fact it offered the "metering tips" so you can directly hook up other product bottles to the foam cannon itself and dispense using an automatic dilution feature. It also works in the traditional method of putting product directly into the bottle. I also got the entire kit which came with the accompanying chemicals and one of their PFM microfiber drying cloths. I suspect MJJC may actually make the BOSS cannon for Griot's as it looks very similar to the MJJC Foam Cannon Pro. The bottle portion and cap look identical.
You should test out the new Bigboi Pro foam lance. Nice piece. Not sure if it will replace all my MTM's, but I like the one I have.
Would say the mjjc one...use the v2 myself...though Paul (Dolden) has previewed the mjjc v3 one :)
Thanks for watching James 😊
The new lance that’s popped up recently is the version 3 of the MJJC S which has been around for a while at the same time as the MJJC Pro. The latest version of the MJJC Pro is still version 2 that I’m using here.
There’s looks to be a few differences between the MJJC Pro and S particularly with the bottle shape. When I’ve looked at the older versions of the MJJC S it looked to be marketed as a cheaper alternative to the Pro however the MJJC S V3 is actually the same price as the Pro V2 now on their website. It’ll be interesting to see if it makes it’s way over to the UK distributers!
In the US, the MTM can often be found for under $75 and using a funnel quiets down most arguments about the small opening.
There's a much better solution, which is also what MTM intended. Use a large jug that has a tap on it with a premix. They created that opening because it is wear resistant and strong not to satisfy people who use it once or twice per month.
I have both these lances and others too. Whilst I like the build quality of the mjjc, mainly the stability, I prefer the performance of the MTM or even the autobrite version.
I am about to buy one of the 2 and I was curious to see why you prefer the MTM on performance.
@@conandrum74 it produces a wetter lighter foam and therefore isn't dragged off the panel as quick allowing it to soften the dirt underneath.
@@Just_Bald_Chris I have a 140bar washer. Should I use the 1.1 orifice?
@@conandrum74 The pressure is not that relevant. What's your flow?
Brilliant video Heather, I'm in the market for a new foam cannon, so will be looking at both more in depth. I know you were sent the mjjc , but if buying with your own money would this be your choice, thanks.
Thanks Nigel, yep I think the MJJC offers better value for money and more useful features
Great video, Heather. I bought an MJJC last week - mainly because the MTM was out of stock most places. I tried it out for the first time on the wife's 1 series yesterday and was impressed - compared to my cheaper lance (which still performed well to be fair!) - though did get caught out with how quickly it dispenses the product - just got to the last panel when it ran out!
Thanks Garry! If you're finding the MJJC drains too fast then even a tiny tweak on the dial on the top will reduce it quite a bit. A lot of the time when I use the MJJC I won't have it on full as otherwise I struggle to get round a car unless I've got 750 ml or more in the tank!
@@AutoCareHQ Thanks Heather, top tip. 👍🏻
MJJC is out of stock almost everywhere in the US, so I just ordered the MTM on sale and it’ll be great either way. I heard that MJJC is preparing to release their V3 unit this year so it might make sense that they aren’t restocking all the retailers with V2 when they are just gonna replace it with the newer model. Have you heard anything? Thanks
Hello. I have the MTM because I like the soap slightly runny. It does pay to buy either of these cannons due to the low quality build of less expensive types. Love your videos. Thank you.
Thanks Kim! Yep can't go wrong with either, the MTM is easier to get a good consistency with some foams though
32 seconds in, wait, what?? The JJM comes apart and you can clean it?? 😮 I genuinely didn't know this. Going to find out more about this, mine's never been cleaned in about 2 years of owning it and is acting up a little. Was going to buy a new one, now will see if I can get some spare parts.
Cool comparison, thx. I've tried "tons" of foam cannons by now and the MJJC is the winner for me. Pop over to my channel to see the others. Also expecting the new MJJC Foam Cannon S v3 this week, so looking forward to that one too.
Edit: Forgot to mention that you have the "older" MJJC Foam Cannon Pro 2.0, which came with the spare metal mesh supplied, but the new version of the MJJC Foam Cannon Pro 2.0 doesn't come with it anymore. The explanation was that it was re-designed slightly and there is no need for the spare anymore. Just need to run the water through 30-60 seconds, to keep it clean (after the mixture is gone).
Thanks for watching! Ahh that makes sense with the filter as mine has never actually got blocked so probs not a huge need for the spare
I am a bit surprised by the foam from the MTM. Did you try changing the orifice?
Hi, Heather, I hope you are well. I agree with you MJJC PRO is better, I have already bought one, thanks for the US links you put, and the very instructional video, I want to ask you, How long can I care my car dryer microfiber because in the past I have used chamois cloth then I m new on it. Best.
Hey Jorge, thanks for watching :) Sorry I am a bit confused about your question, would you mind rephrasing it?
@@AutoCareHQ Sorry i want to know how can care my microfiber drying towel i don't know to much about, because in the past I have used chamois cloth, can you give me some advice to clean and care the microfiber drying, thanks
Yep of course. Id recommend washing it after each use at about 30 degrees with non-bio liquid (avoid using powder as if it doesn’t fully dissolve it might cause scratches) and without using any fabric softener. Then I just let the towel air dry. I don’t put it in the drying machine or on a radiator as the heat can cause the microfiber to harden
@@AutoCareHQ Thank you so much. Best.
Was curious...do both cannons have the same size orifice? If not can you retry this experiment with both having 1.1mm orifice? That would be interesting
Yep both have a 1.25mm orifice
I have both and the MTM with an aftermarket 1.1 orifice is much better than the mjjc pro. Also, the MTM it's best looking.
I have a worx hydroshot. It's one of the best of the battery powered ones, but it's so weak that it can't even pull snowfoam out of a Halfords cannon, let alone that MJJC. Tragic really. Still, better than a watering can. Interesting video, thanks
Hey Heather…the neck design is a big deal to me. I hate having to use a funnel on my MTM. It’s an extra step that’s a pain
You should be a brain researcher, the amount of detail is astonishing, well done! I own the MMJC V1.5 for over 3 years now, works just as good. The MTM is for sure a more premium product.
Thanks very much for watching!
MJJC foam pretty good BUT it could be too dry in some stituation and could scratch your car if it's too dirty.
Cracking video Heather, thanks. I have the MJJC, the karcher one and one from Autobrite, the karcher never gets off the shelf. I use MJJC for snow foam and if I put contact shampoo through a lance, use the autobrite lance. To he fair, the autobrite one is decent and good value, especially because it came with some Magifoam. I see MJJC have brought a new lance out in the US, it'll be interesting to see of they have dialled out those little issues, if they have, it'll be a stonking bit of kit. One question, and I appreciate you'll use your MJJC far more often than me, once a week at most for me, but can you give an indication on how often you need to dismantle, clean and replace the filter?
Thanks very much Lee! Completely agree about the Karcher foam lance, I had one and the quality really is lacking compared to the aftermarket options.
I use my MJJC a couple of times a week and after 1 year I took it apart to check it but it actually didn't need cleaning. I always rinse it through with water after each wash which definitely helps so I think as long as you do that you'll probably not need to do it that often at all
@Auto Care HQ thanks for the response Heather. All the best.
You will go thru product alot quicker with the MJJC. MTM will foam a whole car, with half the amount of snow foam. Was it the same size orifice in both foam cannons?
Yep definitely a big difference in the drain rate. They both had a 1.25 mm orifice in them