Yes this was the process I went through as well, I had started having weird mystical experiences and so began a fear that if I fully surrendered I'd end up permanently in lala land. I decided whatever made "this" had it way more under control than my idea of self ever could, so I surrendered. It was only a matter of days from that point an awakening occurred. I experienced about a year of bliss, peace, contentment, then slowly a grief washed over upon realizing things would never be the same, there was no going back . Whatever arises, just allow...
Thank you for making it clear that this process will often include sadness and pain. I think many people don’t realize this (as I did not) and can therefore be held back by the idea that they’re fooling themselves as they still suffer (or suffer more) despite what seems to be unfolding. 🙏🏼
Thank you! Your recent video on embracing impermanence was a very helpful pointer as well. I’m at a phase of feeling stuck spiritually - not desiring exploration of presence but rather nostalgic thoughts or other distractions. I really appreciate the discussion of grief in this video. It really resonated.
Thanks for the video. I’ve asked you all of these questions before! But my recent feeling of losing it was another level! Lol! Yes! It can't be lost! Never! Ever!
Honestly, what satisfies my fear of losing anything is Angelo himself! Because he comes off as a regular guy, because he went through school and held down a complex full-time job all while awake, that alleviates the "I'm going to go nutty and lose my job" fear. And Angelo's book also addresses this, reminding folks that you can still live your life, doing what you were doing. When I'm worried I'm going to "lose" something, I just think of Angelo!
On some level I understand but there's still part of me that has hope and desires...I guess those thoughts are about the future...when those thoughts happen I realize I'm not in the now...the only loss was the constant anxiety that I had...so some losses can actually be beneficial
Exactly. Anything we weant discounts that always available truth that is always here if we are willing to let it in... THIS is what you always wanted :)))
I had a brief glimpse on DMT and remember saying to myself "would you even want to go back?" I said no at the time so I think I can accept the cost, but when u are back in the segregated state the DMT trip just feels like something you imagined
Yes it's common to have experiential tastes on psychedelics. However true shift in identity is more than just experiential and is very natural and a huge relief. Also doesn't typically come with side effects such as disassociation.
For me what was left after the initial awakening has slowly unraveled and then fallen away. What is left after that unraveling really is nothing. Nothing with any real depth or importance, so it’s easy to see and let go of. I’m at a point where I’m ready to let it all go because there is nothing here anymore. What needs to let go now are those physiological responses that keep hitting me. ( fear, anxiety, shaking) I have no real control over these when they come so I’m guessing they too will fall away. Is this just the body/mind ego saying NOPE.
Your clarity and instincts are good. There is one sort of paradoxical aspect to this “phase” of things you’re in. It’s hard to elucidate but it’s something like this. Although the falling away you are familiar with and clearly surrendering to will continue, it will take a sort of unexpected turn. What falls away now is something like the nothingness that seems to remain due to the previous falling away. So it’s sort of a collapse into experience, into senses, into non distancing. Even falling away can fall away. Does that track?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I understand. That is kind of sounding like the Arupa Jhanas ( formless states) I have experienced in meditation. Experience kind of morphs into itself. That nothingness which is left dissolves into itself to become, you know…all being
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Angelo you have helped me so much with all my questions and all of your answers that I want to repay you somehow. Is there a donation or payment I can make to you or an organisation that you support that I could donate to?
I'm certainly at the sadness and grief part, and I'm wondering if i should, or even can, go back to 'not knowing' or ignorance is bliss and try and live a 'normal' life. Normal being used ironically of course. I do have a question Angelo; I greatly enjoy being with others - friends, family, strangers. Once one is awakened do they lose the ability to connect with others? Have conversations about mundane worldly things?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake it's hard because it is a choice, and it isn't. But when I have a wife and kids I would never choose something I know could be detrimental to them.
Hi Angelo, can you perhaps guide us or give us some pointers to how awareness is unlimited or universal. I know there is no proper evidence to suggest that it is limited ie any evidence I can come up with is phenomenological and has no bearing on awareness itself. but I feel to know its universal nature, I would have to experience it and there is no formal inquiry to induce this experience. In other words to I just have to wait until the understanding arises or is there something im missing? (awareness being our true nature)
While I don’t typically describe awareness as being our true nature, I do sense what you’re getting at. The simple answer is that with first awakening (kensho) one’s desire to know the infinite or infinite nature is pretty much quenched. Then it’s a matter of integration and clarifying subtle insights. Intellectual understanding will never satisfy that thirst, of this I am sure. So if direct experience is what you are interested in I would suggest the awakening approaches playlist and/or my book, and take up the intention to awaken beyond conceptual understanding.
Yes this was the process I went through as well, I had started having weird mystical experiences and so began a fear that if I fully surrendered I'd end up permanently in lala land. I decided whatever made "this" had it way more under control than my idea of self ever could, so I surrendered. It was only a matter of days from that point an awakening occurred. I experienced about a year of bliss, peace, contentment, then slowly a grief washed over upon realizing things would never be the same, there was no going back . Whatever arises, just allow...
Your instincts and trust in life are admirable and auspicious. It ends up in a good place. “Place” being used loosely 😂
Thank you for making it clear that this process will often include sadness and pain. I think many people don’t realize this (as I did not) and can therefore be held back by the idea that they’re fooling themselves as they still suffer (or suffer more) despite what seems to be unfolding. 🙏🏼
It's an overlooked aspect. Just comes with the territory.
Thank you! Your recent video on embracing impermanence was a very helpful pointer as well. I’m at a phase of feeling stuck spiritually - not desiring exploration of presence but rather nostalgic thoughts or other distractions. I really appreciate the discussion of grief in this video. It really resonated.
You’re welcome :)
Thanks for the video. I’ve asked you all of these questions before! But my recent feeling of losing it was another level! Lol!
Yes! It can't be lost! Never! Ever!
Honestly, what satisfies my fear of losing anything is Angelo himself! Because he comes off as a regular guy, because he went through school and held down a complex full-time job all while awake, that alleviates the "I'm going to go nutty and lose my job" fear. And Angelo's book also addresses this, reminding folks that you can still live your life, doing what you were doing. When I'm worried I'm going to "lose" something, I just think of Angelo!
I'm not going anywhere... that is until the reaper comes to collect this body 😂
On some level I understand but there's still part of me that has hope and desires...I guess those thoughts are about the future...when those thoughts happen I realize I'm not in the now...the only loss was the constant anxiety that I had...so some losses can actually be beneficial
Exactly. Anything we weant discounts that always available truth that is always here if we are willing to let it in... THIS is what you always wanted :)))
This was so timely and helpful.
Glad to hear it :)
I had a brief glimpse on DMT and remember saying to myself "would you even want to go back?" I said no at the time so I think I can accept the cost, but when u are back in the segregated state the DMT trip just feels like something you imagined
Yes it's common to have experiential tastes on psychedelics. However true shift in identity is more than just experiential and is very natural and a huge relief. Also doesn't typically come with side effects such as disassociation.
For me what was left after the initial awakening has slowly unraveled and then fallen away. What is left after that unraveling really is nothing. Nothing with any real depth or importance, so it’s easy to see and let go of. I’m at a point where I’m ready to let it all go because there is nothing here anymore. What needs to let go now are those physiological responses that keep hitting me. ( fear, anxiety, shaking) I have no real control over these when they come so I’m guessing they too will fall away. Is this just the body/mind ego saying NOPE.
Your clarity and instincts are good. There is one sort of paradoxical aspect to this “phase” of things you’re in. It’s hard to elucidate but it’s something like this. Although the falling away you are familiar with and clearly surrendering to will continue, it will take a sort of unexpected turn. What falls away now is something like the nothingness that seems to remain due to the previous falling away. So it’s sort of a collapse into experience, into senses, into non distancing. Even falling away can fall away.
Does that track?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I understand. That is kind of sounding like the Arupa Jhanas ( formless states) I have experienced in meditation. Experience kind of morphs into itself. That nothingness which is left dissolves into itself to become, you know…all being
@@Kim-sherie you got it , only of course it’s not a Jhana once it’s realized it’s just this. ☺️🎶💫💧
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake just this 😊
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Angelo you have helped me so much with all my questions and all of your answers that I want to repay you somehow. Is there a donation or payment I can make to you or an organisation that you support that I could donate to?
I'm certainly at the sadness and grief part, and I'm wondering if i should, or even can, go back to 'not knowing' or ignorance is bliss and try and live a 'normal' life. Normal being used ironically of course.
I do have a question Angelo; I greatly enjoy being with others - friends, family, strangers. Once one is awakened do they lose the ability to connect with others? Have conversations about mundane worldly things?
For a while it can be challenging for sure but you don’t lose the ability
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake it's hard because it is a choice, and it isn't. But when I have a wife and kids I would never choose something I know could be detrimental to them.
Wright on. time,,,,it seems that dense of lose and gain îs stronger then death,,,,it mean,,the death îs overcome,,,,! Thank You,thank You,,,,
Is reality similar to walking down a hall where the lights on the ceiling only light up where you are?
🤣… you’ve read my book?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake you know I thought I heard something this analogy before somewhere lol… the pieces are slowly starting to come together for me
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake in your experience do you find it helps focusing on a single object when trying to remain in the thoughtless space?
Will I be unburdened ? I hope.
I would say yes :)))
Hi Angelo, can you perhaps guide us or give us some pointers to how awareness is unlimited or universal. I know there is no proper evidence to suggest that it is limited ie any evidence I can come up with is phenomenological and has no bearing on awareness itself. but I feel to know its universal nature, I would have to experience it and there is no formal inquiry to induce this experience. In other words to I just have to wait until the understanding arises or is there something im missing? (awareness being our true nature)
While I don’t typically describe awareness as being our true nature, I do sense what you’re getting at. The simple answer is that with first awakening (kensho) one’s desire to know the infinite or infinite nature is pretty much quenched. Then it’s a matter of integration and clarifying subtle insights. Intellectual understanding will never satisfy that thirst, of this I am sure. So if direct experience is what you are interested in I would suggest the awakening approaches playlist and/or my book, and take up the intention to awaken beyond conceptual understanding.