You Suck at Mixing #3: True vs. Fake Panning & Mono Compatability
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In today's lesson, we uncover the panning conspiracy and make sure our music sounds good in a funeral home! Check it.
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I knew that knob was a god damn lie.
sounds like a conspiracy :-D
never knew lmfao
thats what she said
2:51 underbelly's normal voice?
Top 10 bloopers caught on camera
@@mra16music32 gattem
its probably kind of his voice crack
Wowsers
@@DatzAdam wowsers indeed
Best explanation of mono/phasing i've seen on youtube. TAPS ON THE WRIST!
nice profile picture nerd
the fact of ableton balance knob just blowed away my mind
Totally watched this on my phone and didn’t hear the synth part at all HAHA
Holy shit, thanks to your comment I discovered my phone has stereo speakers!
@@chrisheynen1784cancellation happened before it hit your phone
You could honestly be a music professor. That sounds weird but you're really good at teaching and it looks like you love what you talk about, plus your videos are funny as shit. Just a thought
With over 13 thousand views for this video, what would be the point? He'd never get that kind of audience in a classroom or lecture theater. TH-cam is already the most effective medium for doing what he's doing
but _i don't know if he checks that sometimes him making a joke is a bit overboard. And makes him look like being some kind of originally, err, mental, to be honest. But I just write this to improve his videos, life and overall everything that has to do with him ;-)
@@jaylinsa hey, this comment is hilarious. You had not a damn clue this man’s potential. This should be a wake up call to change your perspective in life, as it is far too negative.
@@Bittamin me?
@@jaylinsa yeah he does private lessons dude..
Dude ive been wondering about mixing in mono for agges, now you've made phase cancellation so clear to me! Wowzers good job chap!
Your style of teaching is gold, exactly my sense of humour with actual factual information. Bravo
Wonderful tips, I never knew about the panning conspiracy. My life really is a lie
Best thumbnail for a video ever
Omg literally. I died laughing when he said 'And you suck at mixing'.
0:19 ok S*WHEEZE*O check it
you suck at producing me and my 2 subs think so!
So glad I upgraded to Live Suite, and so glad I watched this vid. I never knew about that panning tool. Max for Live is huge!!
Dude, you literally have me in fits of laughter every video. Fair play for teaching whilst being hilarious
I love you. when i was just beginning to produce you helped me cut through all the boring tutorials and to start to have fun with ableton. Now i run sound for an international theater company (Del Arte) and i fucc on ableton so hard
Your tutorials still help me to this day keep up the good work
3:45 I was confused because i couldnt hear anything but then I realized that I had mono audio on wowsers
Damn I really did think that balance knob was for Panning smh
It's not a conspiracy. It's a convention carried over from mixing consoles. If the source signal on the input channel is in mono eg. a single microphone signal, then the "balance" knob behaves as Pan. Ableton doesn't differentiate between a mono and a stereo channel. They simply offer you Utilities that allow a single channel function as either. This is just for your convenience really. It's worth pointing out that not all DAWs behave in this way.
Thank you boss.
Why you sucking the boss?
"most funeral homes" LMAO bruh
This is the best tutorial. Straight to the point, makes me feel stupid for not learning sooner, and is actually teaching you what happens to the sound.
At 5:01 where Underbelly uses the Ozone Imager, you actually have to click "Stereoize" at the top left, or the plugin is bypassed. That's why you can't hear any difference as he sweeps the width parameter. (But for some reason, it does affect the visual).
actually there is something happening
I was having a hell of a time with a kick drum sample that just completely disappeared when switching to mono. This video just helped me out loads!
"most funeral homes are in mono" :D
Hahhahahah
ima FL user but I can't stop watching these videos... top tier content
soo here's what i found in fl studio:
! mixer track: panning + stereo seperation
fruity balance: panning
fruity pan-o-matic: panning
fruity send: panning
! channel panning: balance
fruity stereo enhancer: balance + stereo seperation
effector (stereo): balance
Absolute best production tutorial channel for beginners. Other channels are good but they all expect that you should have some foundation knowledge in order to understand them... I literally know NOTHING Lol I need it explained like this
Thanks for this video.... it appears the last time I plugged in my monitors I swapped the cables and so right was left and left was right
That Ozone Imager plugin may have just saved my life
...unless you are dealing with mono tracks. Which is more commonly the default for individual tracks. Only when you have a stereo track does the pan knob act as a balance knob. Which makes perfect sense.
This is one of the best videos I ever watched on youtube! You had me with the insult at the beginning, then the awesome didactics that explained exactly what's the problem,... I love it!
You are a genius. You have such a talent when it comes to teaching. Wow. U really are special. I hope u see this man. I’ve been watching u for about 4 years.
I watch this for the lulz... mostly. But today I learned about a new (to me) feature in Ableton. Cthulu bless you, my son.
I was actually having trouble with phase. Thanks.
I know this vid is old but it’s so funny seeing such silly Ableton issues. Thankfully, FL actually has pan knobs on each channel insert.
Wowzers, so much info, thank you!
the visual with auto pan was hella confusing, but after realizing what it meant to have left and right out of phase, it made sense that they would cancel in the middle only
This video will be played at my funeral
Omg i just forgot to change the balance knob to the paning knob in my daw on a new device. I was just wondering why it sounds so weird every time i tried to pan.... thanks dude !❤
I’ve never met a TH-camr so funny yet knowledgable!!! 😂😂😂
Liked several and subbed + 🔔
This feels like the only video where he's 100% serious
Wow! Never knew - Will slap a Mono Utility onto master channel every time now
My funeral home set is gonna be lit!! Thank you
thank you very much now i can make sure that my emo trap beats will sounds really nice in a funeral home
"It's important to make sure your mix sounds good both in your headphones and ALSO in the funeral home." EXCUSE MEEE??? lmao
GG, my man. This was really insightful and funny.
my remixes do love phasing, especially on the bass
THE PANNING CONSPIRACY
UB, you are a good guy. I'll have to rewatch this vid a few times for the concepts to sink in.
Hey Underbelly!
Great vids! Question, is it possible to use the phase panning technique without completely losing mono compatibility?
Yours truly,
A dingus
This is the video ive been looking for, for 20 years holy shit.
Oh my gosh. I understand what you're saying now. Wow! Thank You!
wow... what the hell XD
the same applies to fl studio. the channel panning knob is a balance knob, while the mixing track panning knob is the actual panning.
thank you for this.
I love this series
pleeeease do a video/series explaining the audio effects in ableton. i suck at those.
Christ in a handbasket! This was actually entertaining and yet so informative!
The sound is preserved! Just like aunt Milly in the funeral home.
Thanks for the lesson on phasing. Never knew about it!
a true gem of the intervebConnectDednez - thank you - so helpful!
Ok so check it. I fuckin' love this channel, you dingus.
I’m alittle confused. You have a stereo track on a channel with a mono pan knob. This looks like a Ableton issue. I never had a stereo track without a separate left and right fader.
Thanks for the shoutout at 00:38
I just cannot take this video seriously.I just love the comedy used in the tutorial.It's equivalent to a pink guy's song - keep up the good work.
THAT was the best starting video so far
The pan knob thing blew me away
i didn't know stiffler was an engineer. good job stiffy
wow this loaded w mute on but i could still hear your intro in my head
This is peak music production
wow, learned something! and was entertained. great work dude
great vid. Wanted to add this from the ableton.com forum about the pan knob. I was still confused.......
No, what I think Stromkraft is tying to say is that if you have a mono instrument, the end result of panning it with a Balance (what panning in Live (and most DAWs is)) and a true stereo panning tool will be exactly the same.
A mono instrument without any panning will play and appear to be dead center, which is a result of a copy of the exact same signal being played on the right channel and left channel (hard right and left if you prefer) at the same time - whether this is already in the file itself (dual mono) or a true mono file being split by the DAW afterwards.
Therefore, for example to do a hard left pan, whether you us Balancing (the Live Pan) to lower the level of the right channel to 0dB or you use True Panning to copy over the right channel to the left channel (and lowering the levels on the left appropriately), you are going to have the same result.
The difference is if you have a stereo source - the definition of which is that there is something different happening on the right and left channels at the same time. Then with Balancing, for the hard left pan example above, you will loose one side of that stereo source, whereas with True Panning you will not.
So to conclude, if you are simply panning your mono instruments, then the Live pan is perfectly fine to use. However, if you are adding processing to the mono sources as inserts into the channel - stereo delays, auto panning, chorus, etc - then that may become a problem if you then use the track's mixer panning - as you will loose one side of the "panning effect". You may then want to us the Utility tool to pan your source before it hits the effects on your track.
You explain so so so so well bro
Hi! Is it important for sound to be at the same volume level when played in mono and stereo, or in stereo it will sound louder anyway?
Good question, that I might end up giving you the wrong (at least incomplete) answer to -
Below a certain frequency value (I’ve seen ~130 Hz), a lot will be diminished when panned.
I think the answer to your question would be something like..
It’s not so important that the volume is constant, as much as the components that you want to pop, continue to do so in both mono and stereo modes
1:35 was the best second of my life
I've binged every tutorial I can find to help with my shitty songs and these are the best by far. Keep up the degradation it works.
oh wow, what a tutorial style. Love the sense of humor in it
Loved your style of explanation.
Thanx.
excellent video! so insightful, thank you bro!
Damn. Been using Ableton for years and never realized the Panning conspiracy. Damn. Subscribed.
Underbelly I hope you do stand up. You make learning fun Boi 💯
woop woop this video saved my mixes
Yo, thanks for that plugin ah.. plug. I've been needing something like that for a while to better understand my mixes.
This one was especially helpful for me thanks bellyboi
Thank you for showing me that free plugin, it's great!
what the heck man now all my old stuff sounds bad...or not as cool. thanks man i have abelton intro and the right click thingy dosnt work in this so i need to drop another 300 so i could have a decent panning tool...
Little Drummer Boy!!! I trusted you!!!! Damn you!!!
So, i suck at mixing too so I made an album to cope with it… It hit the Beatport album release charts in two categories and still on it since 4 days… 😂 I hope my next Album mixing will be better thanks to you!
I love your videos man, super informative and really funny
1:50 it tells you that protools makes more sense...you get two pan knobs for stereo tracks one for each channel
Arigato, You-Suck-at-Producing-san
*takes a bow*
Honestly man, this video did a great job at explaining something I KNEW was simple enough, but I also knew I was lacking some critical information. The 45 degree angle thing cleared up so much for me. Also, I love it when you talk to me like I'm an idiot xD haha jk but I did sub immediately because I learned something and it was funny too! :D
Wowzers
On my phone speaker there's no tone playing at 3:40. Just keeping informed
i feel inspired to do a 'you suck at max' series now
My life has been a lie...
Thanks man, awesome video, keep this series up! ✨
1:38 is the best part.
the shoenice of music broduction
Your my true love
wtf. i realized this shit. this has always bothered me, but could never find a handy solution.
Really informative, thanks for sharing! And of course, delivered exceptionally ;)
Now why tf are most club systems mono?
Oh well it’s because stereo only works when you’re in the right position you dingus. Also most clubs have shitty acoustics, just like my recording room, so it’s better to remain in mono.
This is great! Thank you!