A dingus might have a hard time translating this all from Ableton to a different DAW, but you are right. Quality explaining going on here, I just need to find a plugin that eq's AND tells you all the frequencies
@@BibleStorm Fab Filter Pro Q 3 - changed my life. Logic user here. Logic stock eq is great, but FFPQ3 does it all and more. Transparent and easy to use.
EQ Tonal Balance - Track Analysis Tips -Analyze others tracks to learn what to do -Headphone Icon in top right allows you to isolate frequency band -If Kick and Bass are tuned to same note they may clash - Fundamentals and Overtones are Octaves apart and frequencies doubled is the distance between them. -Tuning Drums to key of song allows you to lock in tonality Basically what he is showing is how to sweep through a track and see where each sound really lives fundamentally and where thee overtones spread out to. -Full frequency sounds need there space and no competion Takeaway: Learn to compose your tracks so they dont clash.
your style of teaching ... you saved me so much time... thank you! so many videos on youTube of folks trying to show off and they either don't know what they're talking about or terrible at teaching. you saved me so much time
I’ve been struggling to understand this aspect of eq. I know I needed to be doing it but I didn’t have a fundamental understanding as to why other then it’s making room for stuff. This helps a ton. Hey, thanks guy. 👍🏼
The overtones of any bass note is always a perfect 5th above the bass note. Use your eq8 analyser and you'd see that I am right. So it's not SRILKEX that is doing anything by design(4:56). Play a single note e.g. A (108 Hz) you'd get an overtone A(216 Hz) an octave above A and also an E (334 Hz) a perfect 5th above A. I don't know why, that said. It's good to be able to analyse and thank you for showing me just that. Now let's make sure you understand what you need to understand from the result and are not getting more confused than you were before you started analysed.
I think he meant that Sirklixis decided to keep that frequency by making a further right low-pass. I don't hear any of the bass's overtones above 334 Hz, so there is a low pass after.
The first overtone is always an octave. The second overtone is a perfect fifth above that octave. Overtones are whole number multiples of frequencies. If the fundamental is X, there are overtones at 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X, etc... Because our perception of pitch is logarithmic, as we go higher up the frequency spectrum, those overtones get closer together when viewed as notes on a keyboard. Having said that, Logan is 100% correct and you completely misunderstood what he was saying in the video, so maybe it's you who should not be more confused than you were before you started commenting.
4:00 You mentioned the kick (G) and bass (E) are tuned to different notes so they can each be heard. However, most common advice always says to tune both your kick and bass to the root of the track. So what should you do? 3:15 Never knew that the reason why most EDM tracks are in E/F/G is because of speaker limitations in the low frequencies. That’s fascinating. I guess the thought is you want those bass frequencies playing the lowest note possible while still being reproducible, which would be an E (40hz).
Ok, now how do you get the overtones of an E (3:32)bass note to occur in B (4:50)? . Using a Renaissance bass plugin or something? I mean it's good to analyse but it's even better to reproduce then. lol
In case you still had questions, its due to the harmonic series. B falls in the harmonic series of E. You can find a calculator for it online if you need to. The harmonic series occurs naturally. When you play one note, you will hear overtones of many other notes. In E's case, you hear E E B E Ab B D E F# etc. The further from the original E you go, the closer those intervals become which is why you see Ab B D E and F# next to each other at the top. Those are the high harmonics which sit next to each other.
2:50 What does it mean that there is all that signal from 10Hz to 30Hz - wouldn't/shouldn't that have all been high-passed out so there's nothing down there? Just curious!
What can you do when the key of your song changes a lot and you're trying to tune your drums to the right key? Do you have to make a new track with a new EQ that matches the key change?
Watch a upload about the circle of 5ths and find what notes are in each scale. If your kick is tuned to E (for dance music) check E minor of E major scale.
What would one do to add an overtone to the bass a perfect fifth up? Would you just have another sub/bass layer with the note changed (this case a B) and then highpass it so it doesn't fuck with the Lower sub note? or probably a bandpass filter?
Create a duplicate track of your main bass then increase the pitch by 6 semi tones I think. Then spread it wider than your original bass sound for more girth. If you use serum you can remove fundemental in the wave edit part to save completely having to highpass it. :)
If I'm doing all this by design (the tuning of different pitches of the 'same' sound) - do I therefore need entirely individual bass/kick tracks and channels (with plenty of EQ) for stuff to really snap together ???
Check out "overtones" on wikipedia. Perhaps a little of what you say as well. You could also check out the physics of a drum if you're really interested. The drum skin is tightest near the rim, I think. However, all of it resonates, so you have slightly different rarefactions coming from the same drum hit.
SHIFTnopistons I see that my question is a bit vague. I ment, how can you automate lower and upper tones within a kick or snare. Layering, pitching and eqing seems to be the only ways. Perhaps bussing a layered instrument and eqing it towards the desired note.
If its a bass sound, you could have a clean sine fundamental at on osc 1 and the desired sine wave overtone pitch in osc 2 (like a fifth/third higher) or you could find a wave (wavetable synth even) that has the specific overtones you want. For the kick, you might need to eq it to bring out the specific tone and remove others or use other layering techniques. Idk if this is what you meant tho
dont the lower end frequencies clash when they are different? when looking at wave forms, some waves cancel each other out (in phasing) when they have different frequencies, honest question. I thought on the very low end (50-100hz) you should be working with the fewer frequencies as possible?? im not sure though, please explain. Anyhow Thanks and as always Great video! the sound of your air gasping :D i can see your reaction when uncle joe comes.. to visit
It's funny how he talks about shitty laptops speakers breaking down around 150Hz just as i was writing a comment on how i can't even hear anything around 100Hz. On my laptop. Video is fucking on point.
Hi Uncle underbelly, Derek here... ...did you say the word "soundcunt" by accident at 7:36? That's no way to talk to the G# who is the major third above E. This note is our friend in the bass world..Ther're intrestign. ps. do you want your slippers back yet? pps.. [EDIT: 7:33 ...]
He sounds like he’s being condescending and understanding at the same time. This is a thing of beauty
Nailed it, guy is being cruel to be kind.
Amazing tutorial
@@BrandonAdams1010 lol
Just like my uncle Joe.
The amount of knowledge dropped in this video tho.
Makes other tutorials seem bullshit
This whole series is enlightening
The amount of shit I learn by being treated like an idiot Derek, whilst loving every single second of it is both amazing and humbling.
best tutorials on youtube, even a dingus could follow these techniques
A dingus might have a hard time translating this all from Ableton to a different DAW, but you are right. Quality explaining going on here, I just need to find a plugin that eq's AND tells you all the frequencies
@@BibleStorm Fab Filter Pro Q 3 - changed my life. Logic user here. Logic stock eq is great, but FFPQ3 does it all and more. Transparent and easy to use.
Wowzers
EQ Tonal Balance - Track Analysis Tips
-Analyze others tracks to learn what to do
-Headphone Icon in top right allows you to isolate frequency band
-If Kick and Bass are tuned to same note they may clash
- Fundamentals and Overtones are Octaves apart and frequencies doubled is the distance between them.
-Tuning Drums to key of song allows you to lock in tonality
Basically what he is showing is how to sweep through a track and see where each sound really lives fundamentally and where thee overtones spread out to.
-Full frequency sounds need there space and no competion
Takeaway: Learn to compose your tracks so they dont clash.
That's an amazing summary. Thanks.
Dude I edit sfx on Sony Vegas Pro 14
deadmau5
i am satisfied,,, my skin is cleansed,, my crops are watered,,, my village was saved from famine,,,,
Gillian Halkola do I like the post or keep it at 69.
@oh no you evil man
this should seriously be a standardized video for producers. great technique overview and compare/listen approach
your style of teaching ... you saved me so much time... thank you! so many videos on youTube of folks trying to show off and they either don't know what they're talking about or terrible at teaching. you saved me so much time
Wow, great tutorial. Finally someone clears out some basic but essential eq-techniques.
great tutorial, great shitsong
Oh queso check it.
I just discoveres this chanel. It's a gold mine!!! Your explanations are simple and well
done. Good job!!!
My favorite video of yours yet. Ty UB.
I’ve been struggling to understand this aspect of eq. I know I needed to be doing it but I didn’t have a fundamental understanding as to why other then it’s making room for stuff. This helps a ton. Hey, thanks guy. 👍🏼
Possibly the most valuable video in existence for producing EDM music
Great tutorial and really well delivered as usual. Easily some of the best informative music production videos on TH-cam - Thanks!
This man is a national treasure. And should be protected at all cost
Theres nothin better than raging with the boys to some Srilkex and Herpstuck
Wow never thought of tuning drums up in fifths.
wowsers*
@@mestresplinter2467 wanted to like but didnt want to destroy the beauty
I never thought of tuning drum 😅
The overtones of any bass note is always a perfect 5th above the bass note. Use your eq8 analyser and you'd see that I am right. So it's not SRILKEX that is doing anything by design(4:56). Play a single note e.g. A (108 Hz) you'd get an overtone A(216 Hz) an octave above A and also an E (334 Hz) a perfect 5th above A. I don't know why, that said. It's good to be able to analyse and thank you for showing me just that. Now let's make sure you understand what you need to understand from the result and are not getting more confused than you were before you started analysed.
I think he meant that Sirklixis decided to keep that frequency by making a further right low-pass. I don't hear any of the bass's overtones above 334 Hz, so there is a low pass after.
The first overtone is always an octave. The second overtone is a perfect fifth above that octave.
Overtones are whole number multiples of frequencies. If the fundamental is X, there are overtones at 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X, etc... Because our perception of pitch is logarithmic, as we go higher up the frequency spectrum, those overtones get closer together when viewed as notes on a keyboard.
Having said that, Logan is 100% correct and you completely misunderstood what he was saying in the video, so maybe it's you who should not be more confused than you were before you started commenting.
second overtone is # times the fundamental, basically octave of the actual fifth.
this is the most helpful video you've ever made. thanks dude!
even I was never ready to go to school and now I am watching your video :D I love your knowledge sharing .. keep updating us
dood i havent seen your vids for a bit and i love that you keep the same adlibs going but they sound even more natural now haha wowzerz
I click on like before even watching these episodes. You know it's going to be good.
Please keep it up man, your tutorials are super helpful for me trying to produce my own record.
The exaggerated air inhalation before sentences cracks me up every time.
Great breakdown of instruments notes and frequemcies
Dropping gems!! Couldn't have picked a more annoying song. Love it
Amazing tutorials man, that is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much for sharing this.
Holy cow, this was super helpful, thank you sir underbelly
Best channel on youtube, no debate.
this is ridiculously insightful, great video
4:00 You mentioned the kick (G) and bass (E) are tuned to different notes so they can each be heard. However, most common advice always says to tune both your kick and bass to the root of the track. So what should you do?
3:15 Never knew that the reason why most EDM tracks are in E/F/G is because of speaker limitations in the low frequencies. That’s fascinating. I guess the thought is you want those bass frequencies playing the lowest note possible while still being reproducible, which would be an E (40hz).
ears
Also, Would love to see an analyse series where you analyze popular tracks like this!
Wow man. I agreed last year that I suck at mixing. now I agree even more.
Ok, now how do you get the overtones of an E (3:32)bass note to occur in B (4:50)? . Using a Renaissance bass plugin or something? I mean it's good to analyse but it's even better to reproduce then. lol
It just naturally happens. That's how instruments work. If it doesn't have that overtone, add some saturation/distortion to add extra overtones.
Most synths have at least 2 oscillators. You can tune one oscillator to a fifth easily.
In case you still had questions, its due to the harmonic series. B falls in the harmonic series of E. You can find a calculator for it online if you need to. The harmonic series occurs naturally. When you play one note, you will hear overtones of many other notes. In E's case, you hear E E B E Ab B D E F# etc. The further from the original E you go, the closer those intervals become which is why you see Ab B D E and F# next to each other at the top. Those are the high harmonics which sit next to each other.
Interesting and funny as usual .Intéressant et marrant comme à chaque fois.
Your videos are incredibly valuable. Thank you my friend.
Sounds like when Derek s not ready to go to school. Man
Solid advice, and entertaining. I'd rate 808/808.
The level of knowledge is wowsers to me
Usefulbelly
Sausage lengthener my favorite plugin
he : so checkit
me: *checking everything*
This was super useful, wow! Good shit
2:50 What does it mean that there is all that signal from 10Hz to 30Hz - wouldn't/shouldn't that have all been high-passed out so there's nothing down there? Just curious!
What can you do when the key of your song changes a lot and you're trying to tune your drums to the right key? Do you have to make a new track with a new EQ that matches the key change?
Watch a upload about the circle of 5ths and find what notes are in each scale.
If your kick is tuned to E (for dance music) check E minor of E major scale.
What would one do to add an overtone to the bass a perfect fifth up? Would you just have another sub/bass layer with the note changed (this case a B) and then highpass it so it doesn't fuck with the Lower sub note? or probably a bandpass filter?
Create a duplicate track of your main bass then increase the pitch by 6 semi tones I think. Then spread it wider than your original bass sound for more girth. If you use serum you can remove fundemental in the wave edit part to save completely having to highpass it. :)
This channel is informative and hilarious
Wowzers. This really helped😄
Thanks for another great video.
Great song choice :) very informative soup, keep up the good work ya dingus
That was really helpful. Thanks man.
i like it when he just dropped the number in the thumbnail
Great video!
Many thanks for this.
another great tuto..thanks!
10:12 "I'm wonderbelly" ...don't know if that's what you meant to say, but it makes me kind of uncomfortable.
Wonderbelly hahaha. The belly of infinite wonders
never thought id enjoy something so condescending, wowzers indeed.
If I'm doing all this by design (the tuning of different pitches of the 'same' sound) - do I therefore need entirely individual bass/kick tracks and channels (with plenty of EQ) for stuff to really snap together ???
--different kick/bass tracks tuned to their respective keys and freqs?
Nice. I'll try to apply this in Reason.
this is fkn crazy I’ve been bass enhancing overtones for a decade w/ no clue why or how it worked 😂
This dude is what imagine Dewey from Mlacolm in the Middle becomes.
This was great!! Thank you!!
How this ended up in my recommendations??
Me: Trying to mix what I thought was a fire mixtape
FBI guy:
I took a YSAP bath and it was good, I am worthless - thanks for re-affirming it.
excellent info
oh wowzers
This is great. Thank you.
Oh wowzers
Derek-any frequency below 30Hz?
intro song sounds like a quick tempo sample from Animal Crossing and I love it
Tickles me everytime he says wowzers
you absolutely awesome haha
Hey, is it normal with my macbook pro 2017 the eq 8 is laggy ?
Wow, nobody called me poor in that style before!
wow. my mind has been blown.
shit this opened my eyes dude, circle of fifths is fucking everywhere.
5:10 Roooooasted! hahaha
9:36 Herpestrakt? lmao
How can the kick and bass have a lower and upper tone? Is it layerd perhaps?
Check out "overtones" on wikipedia. Perhaps a little of what you say as well. You could also check out the physics of a drum if you're really interested. The drum skin is tightest near the rim, I think. However, all of it resonates, so you have slightly different rarefactions coming from the same drum hit.
SHIFTnopistons I see that my question is a bit vague. I ment, how can you automate lower and upper tones within a kick or snare. Layering, pitching and eqing seems to be the only ways. Perhaps bussing a layered instrument and eqing it towards the desired note.
If its a bass sound, you could have a clean sine fundamental at on osc 1 and the desired sine wave overtone pitch in osc 2 (like a fifth/third higher) or you could find a wave (wavetable synth even) that has the specific overtones you want. For the kick, you might need to eq it to bring out the specific tone and remove others or use other layering techniques. Idk if this is what you meant tho
Abe Bennett Yeah of course, makes sense. Thanks!
I wonder what person named Derek hurt him there is a lot of hate in Derek and we’ve never heard that backstory
wowzers
Wowzers!
Wowzers.
god bless you
Wowzers
Poor Derrick. I'ma pray for him to find a place to be quiet in the background/corner.
dont the lower end frequencies clash when they are different? when looking at wave forms, some waves cancel each other out (in phasing) when they have different frequencies, honest question. I thought on the very low end (50-100hz) you should be working with the fewer frequencies as possible?? im not sure though, please explain. Anyhow Thanks and as always Great video! the sound of your air gasping :D i can see your reaction when uncle joe comes.. to visit
thanks bro!
It's funny how he talks about shitty laptops speakers breaking down around 150Hz just as i was writing a comment on how i can't even hear anything around 100Hz. On my laptop. Video is fucking on point.
Genius!
8:44 HAHAHA
Hi Uncle underbelly,
Derek here...
...did you say the word "soundcunt" by accident at 7:36? That's no way to talk to the G# who is the major third above E. This note is our friend in the bass world..Ther're intrestign.
ps. do you want your slippers back yet?
pps.. [EDIT: 7:33 ...]
The 10 dislikes on this video are kids named Derek.
thank you! now i know that if i heard a screaming child in school hour he has to be around 580Hz
Your name is under belly?
the moment he starts coughing uncontrollably... :D
Dude, thx again. Just one quick question: Is it just me or do your eyebrows keep expanding each tutorial?
and thank you for giving it to us ya dingus!