Windows XP in 2024: Why it's so good (and what you can do with it)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2024
- This video briefly introduces the Microsoft Windows product line starting in 1985 through to it's absolute peak (imo) - Windows XP. Some examples of the kind of programs that it can run are provided, including discussion and demonstration on using it on the modern web in 2024. Also includes the original XP advert from 2001, and a clip of a 1985 spoof advert for Windows 1.01 acted out by Steve Ballmer.
There is also a brief clip from the South Park Movie criticising Windows 98, which summed up perfectly most peoples feelings towards it at the time (it had just come out). Windows 98 Second Edition was much better.
The second half of the video is dedicated to XP game-play and features clips from the following XP-compatible games (in order of appearance):
Need for Speed: ProStreet
Quake III Arena
Crysis
Classicube
Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing
Quake 4
Screamer 4x4
Halo
Microsoft Flight Simulator X
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
The first PC featured in this video is an IBM PC/AT with a VGA card and early IBM VGA Monitor. Although fully working, the official Windows 1.01 demo program it is shown to run is overlaid for visual clarity.
The second PC (that runs XP) is a duel 2.5ghz Xeon (four cores each) and matching motherboard from 2008 (XP was the most popular OS in the world at that time). It has 8gb of 1333mhz memory but XP only uses the first 4gb, as this is the 32 bit version, not the 64 bit version. This system will run the 64 bit version just fine but other than being able to use the extra memory, there is little performance improvement and software compatibility is not as good.
The system is runing an Nvidia GT-740 graphics card, bought brand new at the end of 2023 for just $40 delivered.
The Windows XP desktop and all games are set to run at 1280x1024 as that is the monitors native resolution. It refreshes at 60hz, some game V-Sync to that but others do not. The recorded footage is mostly overlaid back over the monitor panel in post, for reasons of clarity. The boot sequence is captured optically through the camera.
NOTE: TH-cam has copyright-flagged the music in GTA and removed it. Which is slightly daft given that it originates in a computer game. These segments are silent now. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I really liked that our computers weren't spy machines back then
Ikr, recently I watched a YT video where they got a brand new machine with W11 on it, and placed a packet-analiser between it and the Internet just to see what it was doing and the amount of different random servers it was sending data to was just shocking. Terrible harvesting all below the radar, all hidden behind friendly looking cartoon characters saying "we respect your privacy". Yeah right, data collection is big business now. I could almost understand it if the OS was free but W11 is actually really expensive, but it seems to be a tool for Microsoft as much as a tool for the user
@@B00MERTEC I've seen that video as well! While burning the iso to a flash drive using Rufus application, there is an option to disable data collection but I haven't tested its effectiveness.
To be fair spyware was a nightmare on XP but at least you had to fire up your browser before you got infected. Now it's installed out of the box and sanctioned by Microsoft.
Sandboxie.
pentium 3 came with unique identification per chip to track users but was quickly disabled for how awful that idea is. I can only imagine there were plenty of identifying hardware pieces before that
I installed XP on old single core laptop for fun few weeks ago and it works great. No ssd no nothing. Menus open instantly, everything is snappy and simple and intuitive, even firefox (Mypal) is totaly usable. New OSes have really regressed...
It’s honestly crazy. I have an old PC from the 90s which really struggled with WinXP. Opening menus would take several seconds and I needed to enable the classic Windows theme and disable other visual features to make it barely usable-to the point where I enabled a setting where windows would only draw their outline while being dragged, rather than their contents. It made me believe that my PC was incredibly weak, but then I installed Ubuntu and it ran like a rocket. I could even enable the wobbly windows and other graphical effects and it handled those without a sweat.
Fast forward to today, and WinXP is considered fast. How did that even happen?
Me too, on an old HP compaq that i found in the trash, hahaha, It works perfecto, but i need another power suply because graphic card requires a little more power. I Hope find another power suply haha 😊 Now i can play games like Starcraft, comand and conquer, titán quest, dawn of war, theme hospital, revolt, its a paradise
@@ThePC007 You probably did have a weak system then, but that doesn't mean that Ubuntu couldn't run well on a weaker system than Windows XP. I never had issues running XP and I started building systems some time in 2005 or 2006. I believe my first system had a Pentium 4 in it.
@@ThePC007We can say similar thing about Ubuntu now - it got really heavy over I think last 6 years... We have plenty OSes now that run fine on weaker hardware, the question is what are you using your computer for? I think, that if somebody uses mostly browser based things, simple, lightweight version of Linux, that supports modern era browsers will be enough.
Me, personally - never felt like XP run bad on my hardware and I didn't use any top spec hardware back at it's era. Sure, I knew that its requirements are higher than W98, but it was much more stable than W98 and with ServicePacks it got even more solid.
@@LeitoAE Ubuntu became a little sluggish when it migrated to Unity, and then became _really_ slow when it switched to Gnome 3, so yeah. What surprised me, though, is the performance of XFCE on older hardware. On somewhat recent hardware it's incredibly fast. Opening new windows is faster than closing them on Windows. And yet, on a mid 2007 MacBook it seems to run slower than OS X Tiger, and that's despite OS X's fancy animations.
Kinda makes me wonder what would happen if we forced programmers to write their software on 20-year-old hardware. Maybe we'd finally get software that isn't a pain to use, lol.
I'm running a low power fm radio station 24/7. It's been running for four years now and only stops if the power goes off. I'm running it on an old Pentium 1 I found in the dump.
I salute you sir :)
perfect use for that machine. ultralightweight linux distros can also work for this, although sometimes drivers are a nightmare
In the factory what I work for, there is a 286 PC. It controls an industrial oven in 24/7 for at least 15 years with a DOS program. It was never failed so far.
Now that's an interesting subject, how does somone broadcast on fm. What equipment is needed.
@@fpepefpepe3167 In the factory for whom I work ...
commenting this from XP btw
Same here.
@@9852323 nah but i am fr daily driving XP, i swear i am commenting this from Supermium Browser on Windows XP, which browser do you use btw
was the video uploaded on oldweb? because i dont think u can really get modern youtube running even on the latest supported browser
Most XP browsers support TH-cam just fine, works just the same as any modern OS
@@B00MERTEC using supermium btw
Hi, great vid, thanks. I'm a 60 year old gamer from Yorkshire & ive just got back into pc building after a break of 25 years. I finished an xp build at the weekend, its like seeing an old friend. Im going to run as a gaming machine, gog & physical disks. Also got the parts for a windows 98 build but im suspecting that wont be a much fun. Thanks again for the video
You're most welcome, thanks for watching! Yes I know what you mean about XP feeling like an old friend, it comes from a programming team that thought "How can we make a great Operating System for people?" rather than a commercial exec team now asking "How can we extract the absolute most value from our customers by harvesting all their personal metrics and preferences and using Windows as a selling platform rather than just an OS?
take a look at PCem and 86box if you're into MS-DOS or Windows 95/98 games, it will surprise you
I think you should go ahead with the Win98 build. You can play lots of games on Win98 on early Celerons and Win98 natively supports USB. I have several computers with various operating systems including Win95, Win98, Win2k, and WinXP and of course DOS. I'm one of the weirdos that insists on playing on period correct hardware and software and I have lots of space and am also a hoarder. Win98 is much easier than Win95 to setup and do things with. The Pentium 4 still feels like a big new powerful CPU to me.
How did it go building the 98? 🙂
Big ups to og gamer bloke 💪 Respect
Some of the latest printers still ship with Windows XP drivers and I wondered why when I happened to visit a photo studio in India to take a printout of some photos I had taken, a few months back and they were using an ancient Windows XP system running Photoshop CS6.
The guy there was extremely proficient at touching up the photos and I realised minus the AI tools such as AI generative fill, other tools such as Smart fill and the clone stamp are available on Photoshop CS6 and there are no subscription fees to be paid and the guy said that the system is offline.
Oh yes; and coming back to the printer being used, I think it was an Epson EcoTank L18050 6-ink ink photo printer (not the best, but better than average ), which is a very recent printer that ships with Windows XP drivers. I was extremely impressed with the end result on photo paper, all things considered.
Adobe Creative Suite 6 is really good, and runs under XP. It's from just before when they made you pay a monthly subscription so you end up paying thousands for a program that you used to just buy and keep. Yes a good XP machine with a skilled operator and CS6 will be a very capable setup indeed.
KRITA is a great photoshop alternative even the UI is similar.
@@lordterra1377Similar functions?
@@wanderingskeleton52
Almost identical.
While I use Linux just for internet and file downloads/uploads, I still use XP to this day and have no plans to ever stop. Only things it can't do for me now is play newer games, use Blurays and the UDF filesystem, or go online. Everything else I do on XP feels like how it was for me over 10 years ago. XP is timeless to me.
It is. It doesn't feel "old", just friendly.
bro just use linux wtf is wrong with you
@@Blox117 Please mind your manners. I just said above that I am an everyday Linux internet user. I only use XP for legacy offline tasks and games.
You really wanna see what XP can do, try this config:
- i7-4960X (highest XP can use) with 32GB DDR3-2400
- GTX 980 Ti (highest XP can use, requires simple drivers' INI editing)
- SSDs only, no platter drives. Perhaps even adapting NVMe into a PCIe slot. There are drivers out there for many of them to run on XP.
- 1080p widescreen monitor. (I use 2.)
THEN you'll see the ultimate XP machine. At least, one that's natively supported without third-party tweaks and risky dev toys.
32bit XP can only see 3.25GB RAM. If you use 64bit XP, then you lose support with some older applications and hardware devices drivers are designed for 32-bit systems. I would postulate that most people wanting to go back to windows XP are after the 32bit experience and more period specific hardware (probably recreating the system they remember they had at the time). The machine you have there is a Frankenstein's monster of something that never really existed or was intended for XP. Nice in concept, but a bit silly and pointless, e-show boating.
Honestly, there has to be some sort of way to make these OSes support newer unsupported CPUs and GPUs
I would like to see the useable build version of longorn xp prototaype system build
@@ABizzyBYT I only suggested 32GB RAM because to find DDR3-2400 with low CL, that's the set (of 4x8GB) you have to get from Newegg. You could use the other option, buy 4x4GB sticks and only use 2, and still only waste half. Besides, with a multiboot using something else x64 that's more modern, none of it would be wasted.
And not showboating. I built one. Multiboots XP x32, Vista x32, and 7U x64. So nothing's really wasted. And far better than my previous i7-3770K.
i personally would go for a good CRT but that might just be nostalgia talking
The biggest issue Microsoft had and still has to this day is they did/do what they wanted rather than what tens of millions of users told them what they wanted..eg: leave the start menu alone !...
They just never learn !
Best thing about XP is that you can play games without having to be on line.
Pls can you reupload this with proper screen ratio like 4:3 or 16:9 and not a 1:1.
you can play offline games as long as it was your os is supported
glad to play NFSU1 and 2 with this OS it's fun back in the days.
Changing the aspect ratio of a video isn't as easy as just telling the computer to do so
@@Crigence it literally is easy to have made it in the correct format from the start
@@Blox117 Have you considered that it's a stylistic choice? And that 16:9 isn't the only resolution you're allowed to use?
I love Windows XP.
That was a time when computers were full of fun.
Tinkering in the depths of the system, making something possible that was not officially intended.
That was often more fun than the actual gaming.
I miss that time very much.
Hi there BoomerTec. This is a solid, no-nonsense video with a professional flair. Kind of a rarity these days.
You've made a very compelling case for using my old XP machine more often. Makes sense that just using it for stuff you don't log into, or do sensitive things on, should be safe enough for casual browsing. This was my main concern.
I've got three retro machines in tip top condition. My son and I started together with PCs back in 93 when he was 6. Now he owns an electronics shop and is a retro legend on the restoration scene.
Liked and subscribed!
Thanks so much Bigalexg, I'm really glad you like my videos. Your son sounds very cool! My son is into his computers too, although he's only just become a teenager so not quite ready to open a shop yet. I wouldn't say he was a keen retro enthusiast either, he likes using computers rather than the computers themselves which is fair enough. I've got some other videos lined up that perhaps you'll like so hopefully see you again soon 👍
Hey thanks. Yeah got you subbed so I'll be around. My son is 38. He was building rigs and setting up LANs at 8. We were spoon-fed the "lore" by my two best buds who were PC techs, back before you could Goolgle up a how to vid on anything. You needed friends to show the way. Good times! These days my son will write his own device drivers if he can't find one for an old card. I'm sort of retired from that stuff these days and never did quite get it like a native could. But I still love gaming and fiddling with the machines.@@B00MERTEC
XP, 98 and Vista were my fav OS. I remember going from XP to 7 and it was like regressing lol
I use XP still on another pc, at least Microsoft Word is effin free.
I hate word is subscription based
ikr. I really can't stand all this subscription software, you end up paying so much money especially if you loose track of what you have and what you're paying (easy to do when you're responsible for a number of machines). I wouldn't touch the likes of Office 360 with a barge-pole.
@@B00MERTEC exactly I’m the same way with Office 360, I’m only 30 and I can’t stand how windows is now a days and don’t get me started on DRM with games, I love GOG and Steam (for the most part) I can’t easily transfer over games like FEAR or Madden 08 that run better on xp machines from Steam with a simple No CD Crack
@boomertec9403 subscription really are the worst...
The worst part is that they are killing Wordpad.
Notepad++ is free
Thanks, that was a great video! Really brought back some memories.
nice build
i use my windows xp tower pc mostly for older games or archiving old software
have you tried the supermium browser?
Always loved Windows XP, Vista, and 7. Tried Windows 8, 10, and 11. Never really liked either of those. A good video and thanks for sharing!
Hey there Boomer Tec! I just wanted to drop a quick note to say thank you for the insightful video on using Windows XP in 2024. As a fellow XP user, I found the cautions and practical tips really valuable, and I had no idea about the Legacy Update, so thank you for sharing that! Your content is truly helpful, and I can't wait to see more. Warm regards!
Thanks for your kind comments Matthew. This is a pretty new channel and I've got loads of videos in the making, just a case of finding the time to put them together! Glad you find them helpful! If nobody did then there wouldn't be much point in bothering, so feedback always appreciated. Cheers!
My first desktop came with windows 3.0, which I upgraded to 3.1 and then to win 95. The next desktop I had was one I built. I can't remember all the specs and so forth but it has a dual socket gigabyte MB, of which I populated with two Pentium 3 800Mhz cpus. I put windows 98 on it and it crashed all the time, partly because of win 98, but mostly because I really didn't understand what I was doing.
My first laptop was a mini laptop with 1GB ram, 60GB hdd and sporting windows XP. By far it was the most stable PC I have ever had. I used it for almost 10 years before the battery died. By this point windows 7 came and went and my next laptop had windows 8, which I hated.
I mis windows XP. It felt like a rock solid OS. I have often thought about going to linux. But I am used to the bugs of windows and everytime I tried using a linux build, I felt lost. I felt as inept as I did in the 90s when I built my dual pentium PC.
I used XP in 2003-2015. After that I changed to Win 7 and this system (win7) I still use till today (no joke). It enough for me.
I also still main 7
That UAC badge, holy crap I need one
Pretty sure it’s just 1:1, also known as square. Interesting creative choice indeed.
Ikr, most of my builds have one. There is a person (US based) who makes them and sells them on Ebay, they do loads of cool ones. That's where mine came from anyway
@@B00MERTEC Can you please share the eBay seller. I really want one.
This video is incredibly relaxing 😌 Very nostalgic too!
Thanks for the nice comments 👍 which aspect did you find relaxing?
I always saw purchasing a game as a license to obtain its compiled code and required files any way I can. So long as I don't ruin the experience for others, cause server issues, or redistribute client to others without that license, I can modify the client files however I like. Terms of Service are only read in full by people who then have no time left to play that game.
Which is still the case... for PC (Consoles are a different story). You just download all the files now and don't have a disc. You can always back them up yourself. If you're going for preservation then make sure you find a crack for the game as well. If the game is ever pulled you'll need it.
Hi nice video but I have a question : what resolution did you use for the games ?
Omg the sound 😭❤
Interesting choice of video aspect ratio.
I play Half-life 2 on windows 98 and XP with a Batch file can't the same thing be done for other games?
2:06 can you upload the full resolution picture that you showed in this part of video?
This particular version of bliss wallpaper looks very nice with crisp looking grass. I like how it looks.
Your wish is my command! Yes it's a lovely modern version of the classic "Bliss" image, and I have it in 4K. I've uploaded it to my website www.boomertec.org which is still very much under construction. But you'll find the image there.
It's amazing how any Windows OS after Windows 7 is straight trash. On the flip side, it's been a boon for hardware manufacturers, who make bank accomodating the "latest Windows requirements." 💰
I loved the fish tank screen saver. so relaxing.
Hey @BoomerTec which Motherboard is this? I got a Dual Socket 604 Motherboard (2 of them actually) and they're a pain to figure out. Proprietary PSU's, Proprietary Heaksinks, what a mess. I got a HP XW6200 Workstaion Board, and the Dell Poweredge 1800 board, even got the PSU's and heatsinks and they're still not wanting to power on LOL.
I'm going to stop while I'm ahead on that Socket 604 road, I just wanted to throw those Xeon L7455's in there and have a badass 12core rig for Windows XP/7/maybe 10
do quake 4 and doom 3 run on the same engine? Great video sir 💪🏻 subscribed love content like this
Thanks so much for the subscription! Quake 4 and Doom 3 are, I believe, different engines. The Quake 4 engine is newer and has more features. I didn't put any Doom 3 content on this video, I thought it was getting a bit long, but that would have been a strong contender as it's one of the greats of the era.
I love XP, also my favourite.
Strange question perhaps: what's the aspect ratio of this video? 3:4?
It's 1:1 Square, just as a compromise between landscape and portrait, also I do my editing on a 4:3 CRT and it just fits well. I find 16:9 a bit boring and it looks rubbish on a phone anyway. 🤷
@@B00MERTECtrue that
@@B00MERTECwatching the video on my phone in landscape with the comments on one side and the video on the other
Love it
The OS of my mid to late childhood. Preceded shortly before by 98se in early childhood.
Been playing around with it again, installed it on an old Dell LS400 and a bare DFI/Duron motherboard for legacy uses. They and my 98 laptop can still run ham radio text and image software; MMSSTV, MultiPSK, FLDigi on XP
98SE ran on a Gateway 2000 tower it had Altec lansing speakers. Dont know its model number. Edit: its was something like a P5-166/P5-200
XP home ran on a Dell Dimension 8300 with a 5:4 flatpanel LCD (i still have the monitor!) It had a nice pair of Harmon Kardon speakers with a subwoofer.
I had an amazing Altec Lansing speaker and subwoofer set that I got for Christmas 1998 that I used for years on my Pentium 200MMX in Win95. I played Powerslide for hours everyday after school and the roar of the Big Heaver and Saber engines could be heard throughout the entire house along with the brilliant soundtrack of that game. Played LOTS of Quake and of course DOOM/DOOM2 on it as well I wore those speakers out, got 6 years out of them and they outlasted my first 17 inch monitor.
Very nice and objective view of the facts, XP was the best operating system from Microsoft (imho tied with 7). Gaming in the XP days was also very fun, i remember when i got my first machine and that was a XP one. Played TONS of Battlefield 2 on there. Good times.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes I agree, windows 7 is the other really good honest OS, and I'd put windows 2000 up there too, that was rock solid and just worked.
My main issue with running an XP VM is it seems VirtualBox 6.0+ can’t support 3D acceleration. If newer VirtualBox did I would be happy but the VM additions don’t seem to want to. Or should I just use the 5.x additions with newer VirtualBox?
is there any modded version of WinXP fully compatible with AMD Ryzen chips? specially for laptops, power plans, temperature limit etc etc
Can pretty much guarantee that no such thing exists, nor the framework from AMD to get it working with the hardware.
I have build me a retro 2003 PC (WinXP - Pentium 4 with 3 Ghz - 1 GB RAM - 250 GB HDD - GT520) i cheated a little with the newer HDD and graphics card. I installed many games from 1998 till 2005 with the main focus of game releases from 2003 wich were just awesome. All runs fine on a 4:3 Eizo FelxScan L778 in 1028 x 768 p. Only Doom 3 from 2004 really challenges the hardware. Those really were the times. NOLF, CoD, HL, HL2, C&C RA2, LOTR BFM, MoH, RtCW, HALO, Operation Flashpoint, CIV IV, WC III, Gothic 2, TES Morrowind, KotoR, Jedi Academy, Mafia, Max Payne, Simpsons Hit & Run, Splinter Cell, MGS, GTA III-VC-SA, Deus Ex, Hidden and Dangerous 2, Rainbow Six Raven-Shield, C&C Generals, Empire Earth, Freelancer, Rome TW, ST Bridge Commander, Far Cry, LotR Return of the King, Hitman and many, many more. :D
Yes, so many great titles from that period. And you can just play without an Internet connection, subscriptions, online accounts, pay-to-win rubbish where you learn 3/4 of the way through you need to buy something to finish it! Great times.
My Sony VAIO PCV-2253 that I used from 2004-2006 has Windows XP and I'm going to get it fixed and upgraded, while later down the line, I'm going to built myself a high-end Windows XP gaming PC from scratch after I buy the equipments.
This is amazing, makes me realize how there are a lot of people that appreciates and loves Windows XP just like me. I have XP installed on an old laptop with an AMD APU and it's doing just fine to play some old games.
i agree that XP (and imo 7 too) is one of the best "Windows" Operating Systems ever. i use Linux nowadays because its the one Operating System that still gives me the XP vibes where i can still compute with my computer. that being said and while i do hate Digital only things , i don't think what you're saying about Steam getting rid of your games that you own is true. they always made sure to keep games that you purchased in your account forever even if it does go down from store. they are pro preservation and unlike many digital only businesses. Steam stuff almost always go on sale and they have actively participated into bringing more games to more systems (a.k.a Linux)... so yeah i don't think Steam ruined PC games at all. but Windows XP and Seven are still the best Windows Operating systems you can find from them.
Yeah I think Steam has been good for bringing old games onto new systems but it stops people playing old games on old systems. In this case, with XP it might not delete your game from your account but it won't let you access your account to play it, because their client doesn't support XP anymore. The games come with Steam client software for XP but it won't let you use it anymore, it just insists you update to the latest version, which does not support XP. So I'm in the unfortunate position of having an xp system, and xp games on dvd/cd, but they won't activate because of Steam policy.
@@B00MERTEC while i agree that the client doesn't support XP anymore. i can also see why it doesn't (and no its not because they hate old players) its because the new features they added are not supported on XP , same thing with PCSX2 emulator. it no longer supports older OSes (because they want to achieve better compatibility and stability with more games) and its also the same thing on Linux. the thing is , for all the old games you have , there's already preservationists and archivists who .. with the help of cracks have retained access to it forever. there's also GoG etc etc. i'm sure a lot of those XP games can now be found on abandonware sites and places like archive
@@B00MERTECthere are likely work around for those games that people have made to get XP era steam games to run without steam being present or running.
Hey! I have K-Meleon, but everything is oversized on my screen. How do I fix it?
I've always wanted to build an "ultimate" XP machine so that i can play 2001-2008 era games at their highest possible quality while also having full compatibility with the OS ans any video/audio features it provides. Unfortunately figuring out the best parts for this that have full XP compatibility levels is a bit difficult but hopefully I'll get there eventually
I still use XP for programming embedded systems on daily basis. Runs flawlessly on my mac inside a VM. I can't imagine installing any other windows for my work.
Great video, I grew up when windows xp was a thing back then, I just finished building my windows xp machine, I make it as much as extreme as possible, With a I7 4790s, 4 gbs of ram, 500 gb ssd storage, gtx 980ti, it is just awesome!!
My browser of choice for Windows XP is MyPal, which is a fork of Firefox. I've got a fairly beefy system for XP with Windows 7 on there as well in a dual boot configuration. It's got a 3.33 GHz Core2 Duo E8600 (just upgraded from an E4600 for less than $40), 7 GB RAM and a Radeon HD 6850 with 1GB video RAM.
Personally I prefer Windows 7 over XP not only because I really like the translucency effects on the windows, but because it allows for greater RAM expansion due to being a 64-bit capable os, which is why I upgraded from XP in the first place.
What monitor are you using? Really like the design of it 😊
Yes it's a really nice monitor, I think it's the Sony SDM-X72 or possibly the SDM-X82 model, I can check. It's actually a 1280x1024 TFT panel, although from the front it does look quite like a CRT. They are quite old now, but the picture is really lovely. It's also beige and 4:3 so it matches a retro machine very well. Don't know about response times or anything but it's pretty good to game on, seems quite responsive for a flat panel.
I love and still use XP but I use the Integral edition which is patched with many extras and updates. I also run applications in a sandbox with a firewall and so far no issues
Ide love to see someone actually benchmark a system like this with both xp and linux to see which is better for an old machine like this.
There are a lot of benefits to this, from drivers, to security, and the fact that modern wine can probably run everything XP can. But is there a significant perfomance cost.
Not really any performance cost. Linux will generally outperform. Issue is compatibility issues for doing that though depending on what you’re doing that may be non existent
I miss XP as it was my workhorse for 10 years. I only changed to 7 once they dropped official support. Was due though as i needed the extra RAM anyway. Having said that obviously these days 10 or 11 is needed as a daily driver but XP will always have that nostalgic feeling
Heyo, nice old memory for me, thx for that. i used Snappy Driver Installer Origin from Glenn's Page to get all drivers for my Retro Laptop (Acer Extensa 7630 with Gforce 9600m) good for old PC Games^^
I agree for the most part, but Steam really isn't bloatware. Some titles through the software manufacturer require a constant internet connection, but most of the steam games are images. It still runs Sid Meyer games even with the resolution messed up. You can even modify the original config files outside of the image.
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I had this issue until I refreshed the page and all the youtube controls came back
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SeaMonkey and K-Meleon are old now. Why do you not mentioned MyPal, XPChrome and Supermium?
Must admit I've just not come across them, I will look them up, thank you 😊
@@B00MERTEC Supurmium is definitely my favorite
@@B00MERTEC Uh, there are tons of versions of MyPal. Save yourself time, and find the latest version that begins with 68. As far as I know, this is the only MyPal that's currently supported. Mypal won't work on all websites, but it's the best for XP that I've found so far. I'm about to try XPChrome and Supermium, as I'm still looking for a better browser.
@@B00MERTEC It's okay, Mypal is my personal favorite for Windows XP. I've seen K-Meleon and what it does and I don't think it's too old and I think it holds pretty well. Supermium, I think a person called win32 created but I forgot, they're known for the Vista Extended kernel, they got the actual latest version of Chromium on XP and it looks great. Only thing is performance with using an older machine because of how much more memory programs now take. I still think it's amazing that they actually got it to run and that it's even possible
Have you tried supernium a chromium fork for xp or mypal a Firefox fork for xp?
Hi! Yes I've just been introduced to Mypal, it's a great browser, my new favourite. Not tried Supernium yet but I'll definitely give it a go :)
I might build a nostalgia machine. Old software like MSN Messenger (using Escargot's servers), Macromedia Studio MX 2004, Visual C++ 6, Halo, Myth of Soma, etc.
i attempted at one stage to build the fastest windows xp machine i reasonably could. i got an i5 2500k overclocked to 5GHz, 16gb ddr3 1600mhz, a GTX 770 2GB and a 128GB SSD + 500GB HDD.
the performance running XP era games was insane, as can be expected from some of the last hardware to officially support XP.
I really enjoyed the first half of the video but could've did without the second half with annoying game footage. I honestly thought you were just gonna show a few clips and then continue talking.
The issue with computers is the culture that newer is always better. I like the idea that you can run the same OS for decades.
I went over to Linux after windows 7 and have been fine tuning an OS to be just how I want it and hope to never upgrade again. I’m sick of updates.
I really love XP and still using it. XP SP2, nearly 20 years without updates, never had a virus problem and still using it on the Internet. Commenting with it. My system, with all programs I use (vlc, office 2003, avast, virtualbox etc), only 3.18 GB. Only 450 memory used at startup. I5 3330 with 32 GB of memory. And XP totally loaded in RAM at startup. Way faster than SSD. It's just way faster than my more recent setup.
where can i get a copy of XP these days? and would you recommend the 32 or 64 bit version
You can download an ISO from the Internet Archive, such as this one: archive.org/details/Windows-XP-SP3-WKEY and make sure to use a Volume Licence key otherwise it'll be annoying to activate.
As for 32 bit vs 64 bit, I would go with the 32 bit even if your system is 64 bit. The 64 bit version (for x64, not the Itanium version) is actually Windows Server 2003 with XP's desktop front end. Not all XP software runs on it, and it's no faster for 32 bit software (which XP software is). The 64 bit version allows access to more than 4gb of memory but in XP land, there is literally nothing that you need more than 4GB for, it's a different scale. It's from a time when 4GB was like super computer levels of memory. As besides, 32 bit XP can access more than 4GB with a few tweeks if you really need it.
I started with Windows 98 ME back in the day, but soon upgraded to XP Pro with Office XP Pro. I loved XP and I loved Windows 7 when that was released, I had the Ultimate version of that. I have had all the different versions over the years as I kept building new PC's for myself, a few years ago I rounded up some old parts and built an XP Pro 64bit system just to play with occasionally. MSi K9A2 Platinum board, with a Phenom II 955 Black Edition CPU/ 8GB of DDR2 800Mhz 2 x sticks ( Wish I had gone for 1066Mhz instead )/ and my old XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition 500MB GPU. I might start doing more with it because it is very nostalgic.
Don't blame you, there is loads of fun to be had with an XP machine. XP had built-in personality, I find Windows 11 is like going on a pub crawl with a t-total retired judge.
I’m just gonna throw this out there as a OS designer windows XP black 2015 is amazing. You can find an ISO for that there might have been other versions since then I just haven’t checked, but it comes with Fire fox updates and it’s super usable even now….it will do all the things normal browsers do all you need is 512 megs of RAM, and 1ghz intel processor and you can run video on TH-cam…. Not super fast, but it will load
Literally the minimum system specs for running video on a computer or 512 megs of RAM (online)are one gigahertz processor and 128 MB of video but I’ve gotten that down to 64 MB a video RAM…
Certain areas of the UK MoD also use XP as it meets the MoD's requirements for software hardening on the TS Networks. Which is more than can be said for windows 10 !.
I Love XP .. I have 3 laptops with XP installed on them and they run flawlessly.all 3 have DVD /cdrw drives so it's like having 3 spare TV/DVD players on hand . XP will never die cause it was just made right. . hence why the military still uses it.. great video my friend ..keep up the good work. 😎🇺🇸
Thanks so much
Recently revived my old XP laptop to do some legacy gaming
This has earned a follow. Ive not used XP since 2009 but am itching to build the dream PC of that era now. Far Cry (1) awaits.
Not actually played Far Cry actually, it does look good though. I know it got brilliant reviews. Yes build up a simple honest PC with a modest spec and it'll make a great XP machine. It'll be like meeting an old friend again
@@B00MERTEC Definitely worth getting. And the later software patches released for it to help with compatibility issues on later OS's actually broke the enemy AI, so you'd be playing it as was intended. Beautiful bright pallet and tropical island setting takes you away from the drabby schemes of its competitors at the time.
nicest thumbnail i ever seen
Thank you :)
it's very much usable for retro games and even emulation, retroarch still supports xp
I didn't think to try Retroarch, that would be fun, I'll give it a go! Thanks for the suggestion
retroarch ports the most updated emulators to their platform chances are you will get a much better performance for N64 and PS1 or even sega saturn@@B00MERTEC
I love XP, it’s just a pleasure to use after all these years. My XP machine has a 3ghz core2 duo, running slower as the board its in is only a 1066 fsb but it flies. Max Payne, MOHAA, gta vice city and San Andreas are some of my favourite games installed and it’s nice to disappear back to better times once in a while. I’m intrigued to try Minecraft on it too, doubt it would run the latest versions but looks like the early releases run great.
I know exactly what you mean about better times. I believe (from what I've been told) that it is possible to get the older versions of Minecraft going on XP but I've never attempted it. The footage in my video is actually Classicube, which is actually a very cool little minecraft style game, it's free and has a good online community. It's kind of a sandbox though, like MC in creative mode with no mobs. Classicube is well optimised and runs on pretty much any PC from the late 90's onwards.
It's kind of ironic how MC doesn't work on Windows XP, as it's written in Java. The whole point of Java is that a Java application can run on any computer that has a Java Virtual Machine, like XP does. Java applications are supposed to be entirely isolated from the underlying hardware and OS, all the application is supposed to see is the Java Virtual Machine itself. I suspect it's actually the little launcher program that's the problem.
I will have a go getting MC to run on XP and if successful I'll make a short video about it.
Thanks :)
An update! I have got MC working on XP, version 1.16.5, which is actually not that old. Runs really well!
My guide on running Minecraft on XP: th-cam.com/video/rKkfpfqZiP8/w-d-xo.html
Deepfreeze at some point might be helpful for old OS. To make it stable and recoverable same as a internet cafe machine. Every restart will be from it's "recovery point"
I own a new old stock Galaxy branded GeForce GT520, and I'm intending to replace an MX4 (I think?) GPU in my old family pentium 4. What is your opinion of this card in a machine like that? And Is the 700 series that much better?
I have both of those GPU's the 7 Series will give you maximum graphics performance even though in most games you won't notice the difference between the two cards, just ensure that the new card is well newer in manufacturing date and has more Video Ram than the old one, to ensure best performance over all.
my cards are only 1GB (GT5 series) and 2 GB (GT 7Series) and for the most part I do not see a huge difference, though overall speed is much smoother.
@@Rodger_Phillips I think my card has 512 mb of DDR2, but I could be thinking of another card, just woke up, and don't have it in front of me.
If it's an XP rig you can run a 900 series. The earlier ones (up to the 970 I think) have drivers still on Nvidia for XP. You can put in a Titan X or a 980ti if you want, put you have to make a small change to the registry or something, there are guides on doing it on YT, it's very easy. A 980ti on an XP machine is absolutely ridiculous power. It's also the most powerful card Nvidia ever made that still has analogue circuitry so you can drive a CRT properly (a cheap unbranded hdmi-vga adapter works, but it's not the same)
I ran windows xp for way too long back in the day. I had it as soon as it came out and swapped between xp and 2000. I had a decent system that got me by all the way up until I upgraded to a system with 8gb of ddr3. That was roughly 2013 or 2014? I had made the switch to windows 7 and skipped over vista as a daily driver. I tried it once with 2gb of memory and then with 4gb. It was slow and not worth it. Windows xp got me by with a dual core cpu with 1-4gb of memory all those years. Honestly it seems crazy to me how long I could run an OS. I do miss those times, when I could pick and choose which OS I wanted and they all had their own functionality and limitations. Now there is only windows 10 or 11, not really great options, can't even do windows 8 or 7, well I could, but with a lot of limitations and software no longer supporting it. I could probably run majority of things I need on windows 7, but it's just a shame windows xp had to come to an end. My favorites were 2000, xp and 7, nt4, in that order. All the beginnings of stable operating systems, something 9x kernel just couldn't seem to achieve. 10 and 11 are significantly worse with all the telemetry and bloat, but if you want to keep using the windows ecosystem, its just something you have to do.
I'm a software engineer with over 25 years experience. I have a client that has an old VB6 application that still works great but I need to make changes every once in a while. When I work on something for him I fire up my WinXP Pro VM with Visual Studio 6 on it. XP is rock stable!!! I've definitely moved on though all the OS's and running Win 11 Pro now. I skipped Vista and went to Win 7... Used Win 8 for a minute but it sucked. Then Win 10 and now Win 11. Also use Linux on daily basis. Out of all of them I still love XP more.
Yeah I know what you mean. Actually I did use 8.1 for a while, with a utility that gave a windows 7 style start menu. In that guise it was actually pretty good, but the stock interface of 8.1 was poor. The Stock interface of 8.0 was an affront to humanity and a declaration of war on usability. I've no idea at all what they were thinking with that abomination.
This is what I’ve needed. I love XP. It’s so odd that I do, I only used it for about 2 years on an old laptop when I was younger to play old games. It’s so charming, my wallpaper is XP.
I know what you mean. XP is a masterclass in OS design, IMHO, and so few versions of Windows really work as well as XP does. I mean just look at the abomination of Windows 8.0, how on earth they went from XP to 8.0 is a fall from grace like no other I've seen from anyone else (OK, maybe the Star Wars prequels). I know they are all the same company but clearly not the same team.
Ughhh... I need this in my life again....
I remember installing Win 1.0 on a few Navy desktops back in 1987. It came in plain, non-retail with typed label floppies and we did a lot of head banging and hair pulling on the phone with IT guy at the next level up, who just got it figured out himself before it was our turn. The Navy was always behind in all IT matters. We had x86s, CGI monitors, a couple Zenith 150s with tiny green screens, and the admin department was still using 8" floppies!
Wow, still using 8" disks in 1987! This is a bit behind! The 3.5" was established by that point. I've got a Zenith here (I think it's a 150) but not had the chance to sort it out yet. It has a mono green monitor yes!
And our x86 cases were lined with lead, 'TEMPEST' certified, so the Soviets couldn't fly over and see us playing solitaire and read our 20MB hard drives.@@B00MERTEC
I can still run Windows XP, customized to my specifications via a Virtual Machine. It runs as a preserved environment {including all the programs I used with it} of my original XP setup from decades ago.
That is pretty cool 😎
Also, REAPER the DAW works amazingly with XP with those old VSTs
I just slapped XP on my comp, along with Plus! and Office XP! I love it!
Good move! you have years of quality gaming ahead of you :)
Hello, there! i'd just like to ask, how did you get minecraft to run on XP? i've been trying to download a version for xp and i have downloaded around 20-40gb of bloatware and other trash that do not work. i'd really appreciate it if you could tell me more about the minecraft game. thanks!
That's actually Classicube, not Minecraft. I quite like Classicube, it's free and very simple, with loads of servers and a small online community of people playing it. It's kind of a sandbox game, like MC Creative Mode with no mobs.
MC doesn't support XP anymore, although in fairly sure it used to. It must be possible somehow to at least play an earlier version 🤔
@@B00MERTECAh, i see. Thank you for your answer!
An update! Last night I got Minecraft running on XP, runs sweet as a nut! I'll write up the procedure later :)
I've made a little guide on how to do it: th-cam.com/video/rKkfpfqZiP8/w-d-xo.html
Just download the old Java version of Minecraft.
i recently did this with win 7 ultimate i plan on installing a ton of old games specs of the pc are:
3 gigs ram
320 HDD
Intel core i3 M370
Intel HD Graphics(Core i3)
its really cool but i might switch to windows xp 😅
The only thing I use XP for is playing Mind Maze on Encarta, which I still do once or twice a month using a VM...
For me the peak of Windows was 2000. I have a Intel i3 9100f and GTX 460 rig with a 1TB Hitachi HDD running 2000 advanced server with the extended kernel, and it is amazing. It is a shame that more people don't develop newer software like web browsers for vanilla 2000; many of the XP ones like MyPal only works on 2K with the extended kernel. In fact, that is the only reason I even have the extended kernel installed. XP was good, but 2K I would say was the true peak. And 2K also natively supported DX9 so technically a lot of XP games should run on vanilla 2000; a lot of them are artificially blocked or require a new version of .NET Framework or Visual C++ for no reason at all
Im kind of shocked at how many businesses still use XP or even Vista for legacy software. Personally I don’t think its always great in those situations where security is necessary, but its still pretty cool.
If you’re using Windows 7 or XP still, don’t visit any websites other than the big ones you’d normally visit, like TH-cam, Wikipedia, BBC News etc… unfortunately it won’t be all that fantastic of a web browsing machine. Prepare for the fact that you might lose or have data stolen, keyloggers installed etc at any point. Don’t have anything on your computer that you arn’t prepared to potentially have leaked like debit / credit card info, emails and passwords.
I really LOVE windows xp!! So amazing!
I liked Windows 2000 more. Then switched to 7.
3:29 that's actually a real place, a fellow here on YT found out where it is, can't remember who, but it is real.
Yeah I used it today also found that I can watch TH-cam on chrome browser still, with video playback and gaming, as to these, some only worked on windows XP like Tomb Raider angel of the darkness
There is a patch for XP up to 128Gb of RAM. And generally I guess it is a great idea to use XP on come 'modern' PC. With SSD and 8Gig RAM for example. I guess it will be faster than W10 or W11 on the same hardware. = )
Well, I myself gone to Linux long ago, so I am kinda curious about XP, but not very fond of this idea, I mean to use Windows at all. Well, except under VirtualBox = )
In RAM? No, I mean someone could have done that, but it would be far too much for the OS to handle. honestly from my opinion you would be better off using Windows 7 32 Bit version minus the bloat, than modding XP 32 bit.
XP is limited to 4GB due to the 32 bit architecture of both the hardware and the OS, while the hardware may be able to use more, windows was not built to accommodate this and so modding it would require a complete rewrite of the core architecture, at least that is my understanding.
As far as I know, windows XP had support for PAE out of the box, but before release this options was removed. So this is not actually a rewrite of NT kernel, but kinda restoring original functionality.
Linux had PAE very long ago, so for me it was always a puzzle, why Microsoft restrict 32bit in 3Gb limit. They still does not support PAE as far as I know. Even under Windows 10 32bit.
Yeah as far as browsing the web if you wanted something really up to date Supermium is a backport of up to date versions of Chrome for XP and vista/7. The current version of Supermium is on chrome 122. I've been playing with it and it's fine. I've always said in general regardless of what OS common sense is a great antivirus.
This is my favorite OS of all time nothing will never beat XP!!!
Yep I'm with you on that one, although W7 is a very close second for me. I think W10 is a good OS underneath but there is too much shady stuff going on. Games appearing in my start menu, programs like Spotify appearing that I didn't ask for, constant "Lets finish setting up your computer" messages that are basically just trying to force me into opening a Microsoft account (that I neither need nor want). It's all that kind of stuff I just can't put up with after I've paid $$$ for the software in the first place.
There is none of this rubbish in XP, the team that created that were just out to make a really good operating system. Too many commercial directors on the development these days, trying to think of sneaky ways to slip in "added value". It's not tin-foil hat paranoia, it's just a customer that's paid for a tool shouldn't have to put up with that tool trying to harvest extra sales out of them all the time.
I've got the perfect candidate for an XP build which is pretty much already built I just need to add a working optical drive to it and wipe the drive then install XP but I might give Windows 2000 SP4 a shot first just because Windows 2000 SP4 is cleaner and looks more retro than XP and see what games it can play from the XP era.
Great idea, although XP does have a "Classic" mode where the interface basically becomes the Windows 2000 interface, so that might be an option for you.
I think a lot of the XP use paranoia is overblown... for us nerds. I take it we all know what I mean when I say, "It's good to keep users scared." I'm not someone who talks up the security risks to users or is generally paranoid about security but I do keep things locked down to not make it easy. But, your typical user doesn't think about not trusting their machine so by and large, I'm okay with the paranoia around using XP because the normal, everyday person knows they shouldn't use it anymore because of it.
(Plus: all the cool games you can really only run under XP are now ending up at thrift stores, and that's a win.)
Yes exactly, I can literally pick up handfuls of xp games at a garage sale or eBay for hardly anything, and really good titles too.
Yes I agree with your opinion on security. I've literally never had the slightest issue but I'm a computer nerd and I know what is good and not good to do on an XP pc. If somebody with little computer experience ended up with XP as a daily driver and started using it for anything and everything without a thought to risk, I can see they would run into problems before very long. Something like w11 is going to be inherently safer for them out of the box.
@boomertec9403 One time, I left a thrift store with a "Dad can bring all the groceries in at once" amount of mid 2000s small box PC games for like $50 or something. It was fantastic and something I don't think I will feel again because of the decline of physical media.
Ikr, there is something pretty nice about having all your games lined up on a shelf. For me it's similar with music, if there is a song I like there is something special about holding an actual record in your hand. Feels like it's really yours! And you treasure it and flip through the booklet sometimes. With something like a streaming service it feels more like a temporary licence to listen to a song, never feels like you actually own it.
I remember the old RM PC s we used in schools with windows xp on them and the cd rom took a cd disks in a case to put in the driver and the big floppy disks too ❤❤
heheh yes, Research Machines. They sold into a lot of schools, mine included. One of the few PC manufacturers to release a 80186 based PC. I remember caddie CD-ROMs too, bit of a novelty these days!
Agree. That's all I can say. Golly usually I have lots of opinions but yeah... agree.
Great video! Windows XP vs Windows 7 is such a hard decision for me. They're the best and very likely the last good OS's Microsoft have made. There's just something about XP, it has a personality. Remember the XP Tour or that file-searching dog? Yeah, it's things like that. Oh, and if you don't mind some criticism... I love the video in a CRT format, but personally, I wish these videos would be widescreen. Most of us are on desktops, I would assume. It's a waste of space.
Thanks for watching and commenting. The square video aspect ratio has been popular with some and loathed by others, so I think for future ones I'll go 4:3 as a compromise!
@@B00MERTEC Sounds like a good compromise to me! and also a fitting, nostalgic one.
I remember my transparent purple hp tower with xp playing halo ce on it ahh good times but kept blowing thru power supply’s until i got a good high wattage one
heheh was it an AMD graphics card? I am told they were quite power hungry around that time! Not sure how true that is.
i still have a vista laptop and it still runs but my windows 10 always have problems