using king crimson I can already tell most of you wanted zeppeli to have a stand but in the end, Dio would have fucked him up there was no point to give him one. lmao
What if Speedwagon was Jonathan's childhood friend? He would have trained Hamon too and murder dio with a Hamon infused blade hat. Done, that's it. There will be no other jojo parts. The ship would have never be attacked so Lisa Lisa would have never had Joseph.
It explains in the beginning of the video that he involuntarily stops time in his first major fight with Jonathan when he's about to get impaled on the Joestar Guardian, so yeah he would know about The World
Giorno's Gold Experience is influenced by Jonathan's Hamon abilities where Jonathan is seen giving life energy to a tree like Giorno . So his stand could be similar to Gold Experience
I think Jonathan’s stand would be a combination of all the other Jojo’s stands. The camera thing with hermit purple, the strength of star platinum, some form of reconstruction like cd, and creating life like GE. Idk about stone ocean though
I always theorized that had stands been in Part 1, Jonathan would have manifested/awakened it during his first fight with Vampire Dio. With his father's death and the sheer will power and strength shown by Jonathan in that original fight, I think his stand definitely would have awakened during this time. Because of this, it probably would have ended up being a similar stand to The World/Star Platinum. Then later, through hamon training, Jonathan's stand would have started taking a more similar form to Hermit Purple, possibly functioning like Stone Free where Jonathan can "unwind" his stand into a hamon vine. So basically, Jonathan would have had Star Platinum combined with Hermit Purple.
Can you do: >What if stands existed in part 2? >How would Eyes of Heaven timeline be like, as in nobody dies? >Potential stand combos for example Green Day and Oasis. You can use any stands from parts 3-8 and put them into pair of two which can compliment each other. >Grant/Swap a stand. Basically give/swap a stand to any character. For example, Ceasar and Hanged Man.
Don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention before, but gold experience and killer queen. Kira touches rock. Rock becomes bomb. Giorno touches rock. Rock becomes a bird. Bird seeks someone. Kira detonates
I like the idea of The World's time-stop being much shorter at this time, since it matches the ~1 second timestop Dio told Enya he had at the beginning of his training. You'd end up with a much less overpowered Dio, and a much more enjoyable fight to game out.
Well, I believe he would start out with a higher time. One of the main reasons he had to train it so much was because he was weak after his fight with Jonathan. His time increased as he got more powerful. And when he took Joseph’s blood, it went super high since he was basically full strength. In phantom blood he was probably at the same level as super dio minus the stand, and he had almost a full grasp on vampirism and regeneration.
There is no fight Kars could possibly lose. His extreme adaptability in combination with is extremely strong soul means that he would develop a perfect Stand to counter whatever was thrown at him, while making one-shotting him impossible. He'd regenerate and then there'd be hell to pay.
@@Massive_Legend_Here I don't see how Made in Heaven could affect Kars. He'd never die, nor would he ever be in a state of vulnerability for Pucci to do anything against him. Kars neither ages nor is vulnerable to any kind of conventional weaponry whatsoever.
"Everyone dies to Dio" So part 1 as if Dio didn't stop to talk to Johnathan and the gang and just attacked them straight away, considering everyone dies because of Dio either directly or indirectly anyway. he could have done that without a stand tbh
I Think Jonathan's Stand Could Move while time is stopped because of Gravity. Hamon is the Power of the Sun, the weapon against Vampires and The Sun has Gravity and let's the Planet's spin around it. So i think that Hamon (if masterd fully) could have some sort of Gravity manipulation an as we know, when you can manipulate Gravity you can move in stopped time (C-Moon) . Oh and i think Jonathan's stand would be named Tusk because Johnny is Jonathan from another Universe. And the fight would be similar with the fight Johnny vs Diego
Heres an idea: During the Jonathan vs Dio fight, Dio gets cocky and Jonathan manages to get a full taco bell shit blast of hamon into Dio. Dio freaks the fuck out and cuts his head off and steals Jonathan's body. Later, Giorno comes into existence and leads the rebellion against Dio. GER happens and Dio's empire is overthrown.
I think the stone masks vampire thing is kinda like a stand in a way. Going back to it, think of the pillar mens ribcage, bone blade, boiling blood, and aero kinesis as a more physical bodily version of stands, a personalized power. Where stands are more mental and has to do with your spirit and psyche, vampire powers are more physical and have to deal with your body and mind.
Part 1 and 2 would probably be more forgettable with Stands. Since Hamon,Vampires and Pillar Men were some of the main defining characteristics of the first two parts,adding in Stands would just make them blend in with the others
I love the idea of this and I think Dio would still run into Pucci somehow, maybe he just gets rumors of a devoted follower that’s just unlike the rest and Pucci would join Dios gang of vamps
@@erenjaeger9579 it was named the passion only in the novel "JORGE JOESTAR" which is non canon and from what i heard not all that good either most people just call it the passion because it doesn't have a name
@@DraculaCronqvist Only in the case of joseph but what if the crew had enough time to learn hamon I would like to know what would happen after asides from jotaro probably one shotting dio (Or the emerald splash by kakyoin seriously damaging dio)
@@doobiewah3363 Well, it's debatable if every single one of them could learn the Ripple, and if so, to what degree. I'd like to think that Joseph would've likely taught them, but they didn't have time. Remember, Holly was dying and they were on a schedule if they wanted to save her life. And after Dio was finally dead, there was no more need, the last vampire seemingly dead.
If that happened, Dio would'nt be able to stop time for 7 seconds or more, the reason it was possible for him is because he had jonathan's body and consumes a lot of a Joestar's blood.
Dude the world in part 1 would have been way stronger cuz as dio said in part 3 dio isn't able to use the timestop to its full because Jonathan's body hadn't accepted dio's head which is why he had to drink Joestar blood. So if he had his original body that's is well with his body would make the world stronger than part 3
@@erenjaeger9579 Phantom Blood's Dio Brando with The World will be just thesame as Diego Brando from a different universe's, it would just give Dio a lower limits for his time stop ability, his stand doesn't become strong because of his vampiric abilities, it's a joestar's blood, araki made it to be meant like that, that's because Jonathan's body was stabbed so DIO could have a stand, that is what's different, so a Joestar's blood gives him two benefits.
@@erenjaeger9579 His vampirism is not the reason why his time stop length expands when he consumes joestar blood, when DIO consumes a Joestar Blood he gets 2 benefits and they dont have connection to each other it's seperated, if you want me to repeat again, DIO obtained The World because the arrow pierced Jonathan's body, that's the reason why it has a connection why it makes his timestop length longer, The World is not a stand that becomes way better with vampirism like a hermit purple with hamon or a tusk with spin, it's because of their attributes, example: Diego's THE WORLD and DIO's The World.
I thik the prodigy master thing has to do with literally putting your heart and SOUL into a craft, you develop a psychological connection to it and your will and soul grow stronger eventually producing a stand because of the amount of your spirit is dedicated to this. There can be stands that represent your craft or art (say, ball breaker, tusk, and hermit purple who is officially states by araki to be a stand based on hamon) I also think hamon and spin has an extra leg up when it comes to developing a stand because of there spiritual and psychic nature possibly linking them to the stand via the spirit.
Giorno and Rykiel are pretty cool. Donatello is just the product of Araki reading Holes and thinking it would make a good character backstory. I don’t know what Ungallo is supposed to be. He doesn’t even look human, I guess drugs really are bad if they make you look like him.
I think Jonathan's hermit purple would be called purple hermit, and it's able to unravle itself and wrap around opponents or swing on things like HG or SF
Somehow I missed this upload till now 😭, but yeah great video META lovin DIO clappin everything, and yeah for stone masks I always took it that stone masks can lead to a higher chance to get a stand due to gaining immortality so longer time to develop one and as you said a change in mentality as stands come from fighting spirit but that’s just my interpretation
An alternative what if idea around the final fight for suckers at optimistic ends! Jonathan barely holds off against Dio, mostly in a gratuitous out of their personal brotherhood... Tonpetty foresees what's to come, fleshing out a plan along Zeppeli to waste Dio's Stand ability. Both end sacrificing in the match, forcing Dio to use the World in them. Just in that cooldown time frame the prodigies of Jonathan and Straizo launch their best attack at him, just alike on the fight with Jotaro, mildly piercing both Dio and his stand with overflowing hamon. Both Jonathan and Straizo were exhausted, but dio, wasn't finished, badly wounded and holding in the fence that separated him from the ravine. He speech a last monologue at his brother, before desynchronize his eyes like a chameleon to shoot his eye lasers. Jonathan's humanoid stand was capable of move the shot at his right shoulder, Straizo wasn't so lucky, getting hit right on the neck. This before Dio throwing himself to the ocean and both Speedwagon and Straizo on the floor remarking what just had happened. Fortunately Jonathan great hamon curative powers saved Straizo, however, the injuries leaving him paralytic for life. There's still much challenges in the brief future that is left for Jonathan and possible implications in the future of this what if. And worst, I'd let you imagine how things would flesh out in that boat!
Wouldn't it just be Joseph vs DIO all over again in the end except no "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum?" (this is before watching the vid tho)
I think there's only one problem with it, in part 7 gyro has no stand (scan is not a stand and ball breaker is the stand of the spin) but he can defeat stand users because the majority of them are not punch ghost who can break diamonds and move at the speed of light like in part 3, if DIO's power was only the time stop or The World was physically weaker and Hermit Purple was a bit more stronger I believe Jonathan could stand a chance
Scan is actually a stand or stand ability, but it’s from the eye so Gyro looses it with the eye. Jonny is able to retain Tusk after getting Act 3 for the same reasons Diego retains Scary Monsters: they trained with it so much it sort of just became theirs.
This is a very good "what if", the only thing I would like to do is expand on the final battle with Jonathan (mostly to make it less awkward as an ending). Like you said Dio wouldn't kill Jonathan right away, so the most "in character" action i think he would do is stop time and start setting the death of everyone else while in stop time, before he setups a mortal attack for Jonathan, he discovers that Jonathan wrap up his Stand in his body to evade the previously shown "Flesh Freezing" ability of Dio, pretty much like Joseph did (he is still not conscious of [The World] tho), after seeing this Dio decides to not attack Jonathan, Dio's time stop finish and then everyone dies around Jonathan, he is shocked by this meanwhile Dio compliments Jonathan for gaining a Stand like you said, forcing Dio to attack with range, then everything plays like in the video. Jonathan now has a """slight""" advantage (he will die anyway because VaMpiRe LAzOr, but still, now he bought some time to plan on doing... something.)
I think this story would work if dio hadn’t fully manifested TW, kinda like reverse part 3 DIO. Like max vampire, min stand. He loses the same way and then we get a similar jojo experience
I feel like the arrows would come into play and either a requiem lvl ability is born and DIO dies from a broken human or DIO gets even more OP. I’m suprised you didn’t go for the fake out and had Jonathan tricking him into killing himself by hamon like Joseph tried to do. I definitely think it would’ve worked against a less experienced version of DIO.
I can answer that right here. Kars would spend a long time trying to find the red stone(possibly never find it) and try to figure out what the hell stands are and how to unlock them
Well a potential alternate ending, Kars realizing that he can’t defeat Dio who can stop time (yes I am very certain that Kars would figure out how The World worked very early on in their fight) and the power these vampires have he would trick Dio in a way so he could get close to one of the vampire stand user corpses (preferably by tricking Dio into punching him in that direction in order to mimic how Dio tricked Jotaro in their fight) and consume the corpse. Since stands are passed on by blood it’s possibly something a genius like Kars could decipher by eating the blood of a stand user and so he would develop a stand of his own and while Araki has written a (non canon) novel where Kars had a stand which could copy any stand ability he encountered which fit his ultimate life theme but is a pretty boring stand overall so the idea I propose instead would be a stand that would allow him to speed run his ultimate life plan since that is basically already his passion and what his prodigy mind is focused on. So the battle would become ultimate Kars vs full vampire and stand using Dio which while Dio would put up a good fight would ultimately be a fruitless endeavor because ultimate Kars is literally immortal. In the end realizing he can’t win Dio would use The World to escape and then plan for how to stop Kars and meanwhile Kars would collect some of the leftover vampires and with his godlike power he would make them his loyal minions and this would continue until half the whole world would be ruled by Dio and the other half by Kars and this would basically be the JoJo worlds WWII.
In one of Araki's non-canon stories i believe, he name dropped a stand for Johnathan named The Passion. In part 3 i believe we see Dio with a vinelike stand in his hands or something. Theory is thats Johnathan's stand because vinelike stands are evolutions of Hamon.
The Passion was from the novel Jorge Joestar, which Araki didn't have any role in other than drawing the cover art. It's been confirmed that the vinelike stand Dio uses would have been Jonathan's stand so basically he would have just had Hermit Purple
Regarding Tonpetti's potential stand: It would make sense to me for Jonathan or Straizo to have a stand more like hermit purple or even magician's red in Straizo's case (but more like being able to channel and control hamon into and through the air... even though that would cheapen Dio's instant freeze ability buuuuut he has Za Warudo anyway sooooo...) Something similar to heirophant green would work for him as well. Although something like a mix of abilities from HP and HG would be good for Jonathan's stand. To the original point though, something like GE feels to me like a good fit for a grandmaster hamon user, given that hamon is supposed to be a form of life energy and GE is mostly based on creation and manipulation of life. Overall the idea of stands in part 1 could make for a hell of a what if fanfic.
Now we must know what would happen if stands were in part 2, as in like the events of part 1 played out as they did in the normal story despite dio having the world. It would be interesting to flesh out a what if scenario where Jonathan somehow found a way to defeat dio and we have the same events carry out with dio as a head and Jonathan needing to sacrifice himself on the boat. It would also be interesting if the pillar men’s abilities are recontextualized as stand abilities with Kars needing the stone to have a stone mask grant him a requiem stand that makes him the ultimate life form.
While the video is pretty good, and I did enjoy the idea of Dio fighting Kars, there's a major issue revolving around timestop. The fact of the matter is, Dio said that it took him half a year before he even realized he had it. Given the timeframe of part 1, Dio wouldn't even learn about timestop until around the end of part 1, after Dio does the final battle between him and the rest of Johnathan's group. So to be more accurate, Dio's stand, The World would be akin to Star Platinum. Now, you can argue that due to all the life-threatening events Dio partook in, it may of caused him to learn about timestop early on. And while that's a good point, my counter evidence comes in the form of Jotaro's Star Platinum. Star Platinum is a good frame of reference for an inexperienced The World, as it's been stated these two stands are the same, and are presented as such. Given Jotaro in the events of part 3, and how he recently got Star Platinum and used it in the span of 50 days, it's safe to assume Jotaro is inexperienced with his stand. Jotaro, in all of his life or death battles, never ONCE used timestop. Even against Dark Blue Moon, a stand that seriously messed up Jotaro, he didn't use timestop as an instinctive reflex, he used Star Finger instead. Or the fights against D'arby and N'Doul, perfect times to use time-stop, but he never once did. The only time Jotaro used timestop is when he learned about it mid-fight against Dio, and had to rapidly learn to move in and cause time stopping. The only reason Jotaro learned the ability as fast as he did was because he learned it from an expert, Dio. Rather than through time-consuming experimentation with his stand to figure out if he even had it like Dio did, Jotaro got his power specifically by learning about it and training with it from there. This proves the ability to time stop doesn't spontaneously occur under high stress circumstances, it occurs only when people have either trained with their stand enough to figure out time stop, or learned about the ability early on from an expert. This also simultaneously proves time stop isn't based on the user's strength. So even if Dio did have maximum power of a vampire alongside his stand, it would still take just as much time to figure out time stop as it did for part 3 DIO. To sum it up, Dio would not have timestop for the majority of part 1's story, he'd just have the insane brute force, accuracy, and speed of The World. I do hope you see this and get where I'm coming from, please correct me on anything I missed. That's all I have to say on the matter, other than that have a good day and cheers.
I imagine it's more that the stone masks give you a stan when you had a powerful enough fighting spirit. Like, the type of people that could get a stan eventually, or at least survive a stan arrow hit.
I think Jonathan would’ve had a stronger stand Because stands are manifestations of your fighting spirit right? And DIO constantly gets thrown off by how ridiculously powerful Jonathan’s fighting spirit is like how he says something to the effect of “the harder you hit Jojo the more force he comes at you with” so since Jonathan has way more fighting spirit than DIO he should also have a pretty crazy stand not just hermit purple I don’t think it makes sense for a buff like Hamon to automatically give you a weaker stand than you’d most likely get otherwise
Jonathan with Hermit Purple would Road Roller the whole part up until Dio due to how broken it would be to have the ability to summon invisible vines that conduct 100% of his Hamon energy Hamon. He'd basically have a spamable ranged Hamon attack to one-shot all of Dio's zombies and solo Bruford and Tarkus at the same time.
Stand Name: C.R.E.A.M. Stand user: Ice Cube Ability: C.R.E.A.M is a short ranged stand with the ability to hyper focus any heat within a certain radius. He focuses heat inside the void within his stand, draining the heat from the radius. This can also apply to any other sort of force, like electricity.
The real question I beg is if it were Ultimate Kars against The World Vampire Dio given that Light Novel version of Kars can literally use any stand and understand anything
I have a cool theory, whenever dio destroys the temple in Tibet he finds the red stone of Aja and he would sense something about it and after some tinkering he combines it with the stone mask and uses it to become dio: the ultimate life form
I feel like if stands did exist during Phantom Blood, I feel like Dio gaining the World would be a tiny bit passive? You remember Shadow DIO’s stand in Hftf? I feel like it would function a lot like that. I don’t think he should have Times-top yet but if he does I can imagine it being way shorter and be more not to the point of being unnoticeable but not to the point of being strong. Maybe have so Dio can subconsciously use it as it could add more stakes to him and Johnathon’s showdown, only until Part 3 where it starts becoming aware of it. As for the Pillar-man I would just say not to give them stands. I feel like most of the stand users in Part 2 wouldn’t have overly crazy abilities but not too weak either. Maybe part 2 can be the part where its mostly armed stands (like Emperor and Hermit Purple)
I honestly think that had Dio not had Jonathan's body, he wouldn't have gotten the world as his stand. Remember that having Joestar blood had a great significance in the Jojo storyline and most descendants if not all of them have stands. But when Dio takes that new body, it makes him a Joestar. So we don't really know how that would work.
The world requiem wouldnt really have stats much like gold experience requiem. Though I would like to think ability wise he would be able to stop time infinity at this point. Though it's original speed, strength, senses as well as precision would improve tenfold. I would like to add another ability since we really didn't get to see much in terms of what the world can do. Being able to do minor rewinding and fast forwarding of time about 10 or so seconds. Kind of like The World Over Heaven or King Crimson but not at the same time. He could also have potential to overwrite space itself since it and time seemed to go hand in hand. Anyways a name suggestion for this could be The Heaven Ascended World or The World Over Heaven like from eyes of heaven.
Another what if for this what if, is if Johnathon does manage to defeat him to some extent similar to the original part one ending where he ends up needing to taking over Jonathon's body thus nerfing his stand growth. Allowing the hamon community time to grow, searching for the secret of stand development (in this case, the arrows) and leading to a battle worthy of comparison to the part two climax. Then part 3 being the awakening of the pillar men later on perhaps by the hamon users in a plea/collaboration/truce to save the world they both inhabit from the evil that of Dio. Then with the body share from Johnathon, leading to a pseudo-Giorno to be birthed and said child protesting his father's will. Fuck I'd read the shit out of that manga.
If I remember correctly, he was able to obtain a 10 second time stop in 6 months. If I did the math correctly, he would obtain a 24 hour time stop in a little less then 12 years. This was my math: 60 * 60 * 24 for the total seconds in a day, and divide that by 365 for the days in the year (not including a possible leap year in that space of time) and 20 for the amount of seconds he gets a year. To be fair I think his time stop would be higher because of how quickly he increased his time stop while fighting Jotora, but thay could have been situational because of the constant use of time stop. If I was wrong (could be not someone that knows the lore only watched part 3 anime (sorry)) and he only gets 10 seconds a year, he have to wait less then 24 years, not bad for an immortal being.
Honestly, this Dio would have a version of The World know as Shadow the World, like the videogame one, and evolve once his head is on Jonathan's body. Jonathan's stand would have a dif stand name like Phantom's Hamon since once he got hit he would've gained it, sta d being a mix of Star Platnium and Hermit Purple (making the Hermit for Johnny and Platnium for Jotaro) I think the others for the trio is accurate...
What if, there was a small remainder of people left in this world, and a person with multiple personality disorder finds the stand arrow and cut himself by accident. He gains the power of king crimson and truly believes he can defeat Dio. The hamon clan adopts him and he finally faces Dio, he looks 5 seconds into the future and kills Dio. Sorry this comment is terrible.
I dunno everything I'd give johnathan in a stand but I do know I'd give him something like stone free allowing him to touch stands meaning he can mostly keep his fighting style
I think it would be more interesting if part 1 The World had a weaker ability still tangential to timestop, but timestop wasnt developed until part 3. Like what about *slowing down* time fore veryone else that could be a lot more interesting I think
This would all go up until dio encounters a version of jotaro powerful enough to kill him. Plus knowing dio he would figure out how to use the red stone of Asia with the stone mask to become ultimate dio
I'm pretty sure that Stands wouldn't be able to let the vampires triumph over the three ascended pillar men, even if they had millenias worth of training. Pillar men can only be killed via Sunlight and derivatives of it(i.e the Ripple, UV Light etc.). Stopping time and blowing a hole through Cars would only cause him to regen it later on with no permanent damage. Whereas the pillar men consume vampires for sustenance, that alone would let the three of them simply have a feast on Dio's army, who wouldn't be able to so much as damage the pillar men(unless one of Dio's minions had a stand like Arabia Fats', but I don't see that being able to harm the pillar men unless the stand damaged the user and other vampires as well).
I think if the belligerents of ww1 saw zombies and vampires running amuck, they would probably treat that as the bigger threat and agree to deal with them first.. even if bullets don't do much they have millions of men, artillery, aircraft and the new tech of the tonk to deal with them. not even time stop would be enough to hold off millions of men shooting bullets, artillery shells and air strikes
Before this video begins I can already feel that dio is gonna stomp everyone with his full powered body and the world he would stomp everyone unless Jonathan has star platinum instead of the passion
I think that gives the world to Dio its the potencial beetwen his personality and the jhonnathan joestar body, I mean the hamon could be similar to the sun not just for his heat and uv radiation, maybe altering the electromagnetuc spectrum, the ripple kinda thing, joshep with his connection with cameras and televisions, and tomph peti seeing the future could be some capacity for a hamon user to achive, so i think if stands are presente in phantom blood, the hamon users use the bypass energy hability of Zepelli to give Jonnathan a chance to fight Dio, becuase Thomp could see their failaure in their future, so Joestar unlocked Star Platinum kind of stand... jsjsj P.D: the pillarmen used the stone mask, so they have stands too in this what if P.D: I wrote this awful, but in my country its 3 A.M I'm sorry
What if johnathan mastered ham on to the same degree as Johnny’s spin I’d like to see a concept for hermit purple act 4 infinite ripple Also I think William would get a stand but I don’t think it would be his I think he would unlock the hamon version of ball breakers the stand of hamon
Can you do a part 2 where Jonathan had a cousin who has a descendant that will be the next Joestar that gains Star Platinum or King Crimson from losing his parents one of Dio’s zombie attacks. Although this new Joestar will probably need to stop Dio alongside the pillar men or right after
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using king crimson I can already tell most of you wanted zeppeli to have a stand but in the end, Dio would have fucked him up there was no point to give him one. lmao
Pillar men stands? They are masters of they're craft since they trained for a lot of years
@@markslenderman. bruh...mmmm....fuck
This do be a bruh moment doe.
What if Speedwagon was Jonathan's childhood friend? He would have trained Hamon too and murder dio with a Hamon infused blade hat. Done, that's it. There will be no other jojo parts. The ship would have never be attacked so Lisa Lisa would have never had Joseph.
@@METAsMETAs yes
Issue: Dio (part 3) didn't automatically know he had Timestop. So it's very unlikely that he would have know of its ability
It explains in the beginning of the video that he involuntarily stops time in his first major fight with Jonathan when he's about to get impaled on the Joestar Guardian, so yeah he would know about The World
He wouldn't know about it straight off the gate but by the time wind knights lot he would
Giorno's Gold Experience is influenced by Jonathan's Hamon abilities where Jonathan is seen giving life energy to a tree like Giorno . So his stand could be similar to Gold Experience
I think Jonathan’s stand would be a combination of all the other Jojo’s stands. The camera thing with hermit purple, the strength of star platinum, some form of reconstruction like cd, and creating life like GE. Idk about stone ocean though
@@ddl3718 Maybe it could turn into hermit purple vines like stone free turns into string!
Jonathan's stand was revealed with dio in part 3. It's called passion
@@erenjaeger9579 that is not it that is hermit purple the passion is different
@@I.x.wiener hermit purple is Joseph's stand wdym?
What I click for: Phantom blood with stands
What I get: How Dio conquer the world with The World
Yeah
Bruh Za Warudo!!!! never forget
Those two are the same things
Ikr
Dio, Gone to Heaven
I always theorized that had stands been in Part 1, Jonathan would have manifested/awakened it during his first fight with Vampire Dio. With his father's death and the sheer will power and strength shown by Jonathan in that original fight, I think his stand definitely would have awakened during this time. Because of this, it probably would have ended up being a similar stand to The World/Star Platinum. Then later, through hamon training, Jonathan's stand would have started taking a more similar form to Hermit Purple, possibly functioning like Stone Free where Jonathan can "unwind" his stand into a hamon vine. So basically, Jonathan would have had Star Platinum combined with Hermit Purple.
Can you do:
>What if stands existed in part 2?
>How would Eyes of Heaven timeline be like, as in nobody dies?
>Potential stand combos for example Green Day and Oasis. You can use any stands from parts 3-8 and put them into pair of two which can compliment each other.
>Grant/Swap a stand. Basically give/swap a stand to any character. For example, Ceasar and Hanged Man.
The sun and grateful dead is a comman one
Don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention before, but gold experience and killer queen. Kira touches rock. Rock becomes bomb. Giorno touches rock. Rock becomes a bird. Bird seeks someone. Kira detonates
@@mimikyuliker946 Like little bomber except it can kamikaze people pretty much infinitely and it's extremely stealthy.
@@dismaned6675 That could be devastating .
Grest ideas dude.
I like the idea of The World's time-stop being much shorter at this time, since it matches the ~1 second timestop Dio told Enya he had at the beginning of his training. You'd end up with a much less overpowered Dio, and a much more enjoyable fight to game out.
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Well, I believe he would start out with a higher time. One of the main reasons he had to train it so much was because he was weak after his fight with Jonathan. His time increased as he got more powerful. And when he took Joseph’s blood, it went super high since he was basically full strength. In phantom blood he was probably at the same level as super dio minus the stand, and he had almost a full grasp on vampirism and regeneration.
I Have a feeling, that in Kars VS DIO.
Kars goes
"I see its the same stand"
He basically does that in Jorge Joestar
Cue Kars unlocking a Stand that can stop time for an hour
There is no fight Kars could possibly lose. His extreme adaptability in combination with is extremely strong soul means that he would develop a perfect Stand to counter whatever was thrown at him, while making one-shotting him impossible. He'd regenerate and then there'd be hell to pay.
@@DraculaCronqvist MIH? Id like to see how that would go down
@@Massive_Legend_Here I don't see how Made in Heaven could affect Kars. He'd never die, nor would he ever be in a state of vulnerability for Pucci to do anything against him. Kars neither ages nor is vulnerable to any kind of conventional weaponry whatsoever.
@@DraculaCronqvist is the kars from Jorge joestar or battle tendency?
"Everyone dies to Dio"
So part 1 as if Dio didn't stop to talk to Johnathan and the gang and just attacked them straight away, considering everyone dies because of Dio either directly or indirectly anyway. he could have done that without a stand tbh
I Think Jonathan's Stand Could Move while time is stopped because of Gravity. Hamon is the Power of the Sun, the weapon against Vampires and The Sun has Gravity and let's the Planet's spin around it. So i think that Hamon (if masterd fully) could have some sort of Gravity manipulation an as we know, when you can manipulate Gravity you can move in stopped time (C-Moon) . Oh and i think Jonathan's stand would be named Tusk because Johnny is Jonathan from another Universe. And the fight would be similar with the fight Johnny vs Diego
DIO being able to use Time Stop was only because he found out the ability from Enyaba, not from something that he knew from the start.
***so it's the same type of stand as hermit purple***
Well, canonically they were! Stands have been existing since ancient times, Brufords hair was probably a stand!
Heres an idea:
During the Jonathan vs Dio fight, Dio gets cocky and Jonathan manages to get a full taco bell shit blast of hamon into Dio. Dio freaks the fuck out and cuts his head off and steals Jonathan's body. Later, Giorno comes into existence and leads the rebellion against Dio. GER happens and Dio's empire is overthrown.
I think the stone masks vampire thing is kinda like a stand in a way. Going back to it, think of the pillar mens ribcage, bone blade, boiling blood, and aero kinesis as a more physical bodily version of stands, a personalized power.
Where stands are more mental and has to do with your spirit and psyche, vampire powers are more physical and have to deal with your body and mind.
Part 1 and 2 would probably be more forgettable with Stands. Since Hamon,Vampires and Pillar Men were some of the main defining characteristics of the first two parts,adding in Stands would just make them blend in with the others
I love the idea of this and I think Dio would still run into Pucci somehow, maybe he just gets rumors of a devoted follower that’s just unlike the rest and Pucci would join Dios gang of vamps
『savage garden』could work for jonathan
『god only knows』could work well for the world requiem
@@osmosis7634 o you read jojopolis to?
@@METAsMETAs yes i did
@@osmosis7634 but Jonathan's stand is Passion we got to see it in part 3
@@erenjaeger9579 it was named the passion only in the novel "JORGE JOESTAR" which is non canon and from what i heard not all that good either most people just call it the passion because it doesn't have a name
yes do a
"what if hamon stayed after part 2"
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It did. It's called Part 3.
@@DraculaCronqvist Only in the case of joseph but what if the crew had enough time to learn hamon I would like to know what would happen after
asides from jotaro probably one shotting dio (Or the emerald splash by kakyoin seriously damaging dio)
@@doobiewah3363 Well, it's debatable if every single one of them could learn the Ripple, and if so, to what degree. I'd like to think that Joseph would've likely taught them, but they didn't have time. Remember, Holly was dying and they were on a schedule if they wanted to save her life. And after Dio was finally dead, there was no more need, the last vampire seemingly dead.
If that happened, Dio would'nt be able to stop time for 7 seconds or more, the reason it was possible for him is because he had jonathan's body and consumes a lot of a Joestar's blood.
Dude the world in part 1 would have been way stronger cuz as dio said in part 3 dio isn't able to use the timestop to its full because Jonathan's body hadn't accepted dio's head which is why he had to drink Joestar blood. So if he had his original body that's is well with his body would make the world stronger than part 3
@@erenjaeger9579 Phantom Blood's Dio Brando with The World will be just thesame as Diego Brando from a different universe's, it would just give Dio a lower limits for his time stop ability, his stand doesn't become strong because of his vampiric abilities, it's a joestar's blood, araki made it to be meant like that, that's because Jonathan's body was stabbed so DIO could have a stand, that is what's different, so a Joestar's blood gives him two benefits.
@@saiko_2638 dude joestar blood makes him stronger is because he had Jonathan's body
@@erenjaeger9579 His vampirism is not the reason why his time stop length expands when he consumes joestar blood, when DIO consumes a Joestar Blood he gets 2 benefits and they dont have connection to each other it's seperated, if you want me to repeat again, DIO obtained The World because the arrow pierced Jonathan's body, that's the reason why it has a connection why it makes his timestop length longer, The World is not a stand that becomes way better with vampirism like a hermit purple with hamon or a tusk with spin, it's because of their attributes, example: Diego's THE WORLD and DIO's The World.
JJBA is an manga/anime where you have to search deeply when it comes to details.
Jonathans hermit purple could be called the passion
Now this makes me wonder, What if Phantom Blood had The Spin instead of The Ripple?
I found this channel through recommendations. I like it already.
Damn I feel really proud and jealous to see how META's channel grew while I'm stuck here with a few subs
Pain
i feel you man.
I thik the prodigy master thing has to do with literally putting your heart and SOUL into a craft, you develop a psychological connection to it and your will and soul grow stronger eventually producing a stand because of the amount of your spirit is dedicated to this.
There can be stands that represent your craft or art (say, ball breaker, tusk, and hermit purple who is officially states by araki to be a stand based on hamon)
I also think hamon and spin has an extra leg up when it comes to developing a stand because of there spiritual and psychic nature possibly linking them to the stand via the spirit.
What if idea: What if the sons of DIO were cooler?
Giorno and Rykiel are pretty cool.
Donatello is just the product of Araki reading Holes and thinking it would make a good character backstory.
I don’t know what Ungallo is supposed to be. He doesn’t even look human, I guess drugs really are bad if they make you look like him.
What if everyone had good genes like Giorno and weren’t ugly
He meant dbz cooler
They are?
@@krism.6598 he looks like DIO impregnated a woman who was the result of a brother-sister relationship.
I think Jonathan's hermit purple would be called purple hermit, and it's able to unravle itself and wrap around opponents or swing on things like HG or SF
Somehow I missed this upload till now 😭, but yeah great video META lovin DIO clappin everything, and yeah for stone masks I always took it that stone masks can lead to a higher chance to get a stand due to gaining immortality so longer time to develop one and as you said a change in mentality as stands come from fighting spirit but that’s just my interpretation
An alternative what if idea around the final fight for suckers at optimistic ends!
Jonathan barely holds off against Dio, mostly in a gratuitous out of their personal brotherhood...
Tonpetty foresees what's to come, fleshing out a plan along Zeppeli to waste Dio's Stand ability.
Both end sacrificing in the match, forcing Dio to use the World in them. Just in that cooldown time frame the prodigies of Jonathan and Straizo launch their best attack at him, just alike on the fight with Jotaro, mildly piercing both Dio and his stand with overflowing hamon.
Both Jonathan and Straizo were exhausted, but dio, wasn't finished, badly wounded and holding in the fence that separated him from the ravine. He speech a last monologue at his brother, before desynchronize his eyes like a chameleon to shoot his eye lasers.
Jonathan's humanoid stand was capable of move the shot at his right shoulder, Straizo wasn't so lucky, getting hit right on the neck.
This before Dio throwing himself to the ocean and both Speedwagon and Straizo on the floor remarking what just had happened. Fortunately Jonathan great hamon curative powers saved Straizo, however, the injuries leaving him paralytic for life.
There's still much challenges in the brief future that is left for Jonathan and possible implications in the future of this what if. And worst, I'd let you imagine how things would flesh out in that boat!
Wouldn't it just be Joseph vs DIO all over again in the end except no "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum?" (this is before watching the vid tho)
I think there's only one problem with it, in part 7 gyro has no stand (scan is not a stand and ball breaker is the stand of the spin) but he can defeat stand users because the majority of them are not punch ghost who can break diamonds and move at the speed of light like in part 3, if DIO's power was only the time stop or The World was physically weaker and Hermit Purple was a bit more stronger I believe Jonathan could stand a chance
Scan is actually a stand or stand ability, but it’s from the eye so Gyro looses it with the eye. Jonny is able to retain Tusk after getting Act 3 for the same reasons Diego retains Scary Monsters: they trained with it so much it sort of just became theirs.
They might’ve already had stands, Araki confirmed that Joseph had hermit purple during part 2, we just weren’t able to see it
not giorno would probably also have a time stop ability, maybe the ability to be unaffected by time based stands
This is a very good "what if", the only thing I would like to do is expand on the final battle with Jonathan (mostly to make it less awkward as an ending). Like you said Dio wouldn't kill Jonathan right away, so the most "in character" action i think he would do is stop time and start setting the death of everyone else while in stop time, before he setups a mortal attack for Jonathan, he discovers that Jonathan wrap up his Stand in his body to evade the previously shown "Flesh Freezing" ability of Dio, pretty much like Joseph did (he is still not conscious of [The World] tho), after seeing this Dio decides to not attack Jonathan, Dio's time stop finish and then everyone dies around Jonathan, he is shocked by this meanwhile Dio compliments Jonathan for gaining a Stand like you said, forcing Dio to attack with range, then everything plays like in the video. Jonathan now has a """slight""" advantage (he will die anyway because VaMpiRe LAzOr, but still, now he bought some time to plan on doing... something.)
I think this story would work if dio hadn’t fully manifested TW, kinda like reverse part 3 DIO. Like max vampire, min stand. He loses the same way and then we get a similar jojo experience
I feel like the arrows would come into play and either a requiem lvl ability is born and DIO dies from a broken human or DIO gets even more OP. I’m suprised you didn’t go for the fake out and had Jonathan tricking him into killing himself by hamon like Joseph tried to do. I definitely think it would’ve worked against a less experienced version of DIO.
A well constructed argument:
METAs: Laserbeam eyes
@@METAsMETAs I know I know I know but I find it more interesting to say that the hero wins.
Next is, what if Kars won against DIO and his army? Within this what if.
I can answer that right here.
Kars would spend a long time trying to find the red stone(possibly never find it) and try to figure out what the hell stands are and how to unlock them
@@METAsMETAs then he would get an overpowered stand and become the king of stand user's
@@landlinemclandmine what if his stand ability could fill the same role as the red stone ?
@@METAsMETAs he would of gotten a stand and named it THE UNIVERSE
@@METAsMETAs why would you think he would take all these peoples are godamm smart af they would probobly find it pretty fast
Well a potential alternate ending, Kars realizing that he can’t defeat Dio who can stop time (yes I am very certain that Kars would figure out how The World worked very early on in their fight) and the power these vampires have he would trick Dio in a way so he could get close to one of the vampire stand user corpses (preferably by tricking Dio into punching him in that direction in order to mimic how Dio tricked Jotaro in their fight) and consume the corpse. Since stands are passed on by blood it’s possibly something a genius like Kars could decipher by eating the blood of a stand user and so he would develop a stand of his own and while Araki has written a (non canon) novel where Kars had a stand which could copy any stand ability he encountered which fit his ultimate life theme but is a pretty boring stand overall so the idea I propose instead would be a stand that would allow him to speed run his ultimate life plan since that is basically already his passion and what his prodigy mind is focused on. So the battle would become ultimate Kars vs full vampire and stand using Dio which while Dio would put up a good fight would ultimately be a fruitless endeavor because ultimate Kars is literally immortal. In the end realizing he can’t win Dio would use The World to escape and then plan for how to stop Kars and meanwhile Kars would collect some of the leftover vampires and with his godlike power he would make them his loyal minions and this would continue until half the whole world would be ruled by Dio and the other half by Kars and this would basically be the JoJo worlds WWII.
Giorno casually altering time and space to come to this universe and smack up DIO real quick:
In one of Araki's non-canon stories i believe, he name dropped a stand for Johnathan named The Passion. In part 3 i believe we see Dio with a vinelike stand in his hands or something. Theory is thats Johnathan's stand because vinelike stands are evolutions of Hamon.
The Passion was from the novel Jorge Joestar, which Araki didn't have any role in other than drawing the cover art. It's been confirmed that the vinelike stand Dio uses would have been Jonathan's stand so basically he would have just had Hermit Purple
Regarding Tonpetti's potential stand: It would make sense to me for Jonathan or Straizo to have a stand more like hermit purple or even magician's red in Straizo's case (but more like being able to channel and control hamon into and through the air... even though that would cheapen Dio's instant freeze ability buuuuut he has Za Warudo anyway sooooo...) Something similar to heirophant green would work for him as well.
Although something like a mix of abilities from HP and HG would be good for Jonathan's stand.
To the original point though, something like GE feels to me like a good fit for a grandmaster hamon user, given that hamon is supposed to be a form of life energy and GE is mostly based on creation and manipulation of life. Overall the idea of stands in part 1 could make for a hell of a what if fanfic.
Now we must know what would happen if stands were in part 2, as in like the events of part 1 played out as they did in the normal story despite dio having the world. It would be interesting to flesh out a what if scenario where Jonathan somehow found a way to defeat dio and we have the same events carry out with dio as a head and Jonathan needing to sacrifice himself on the boat. It would also be interesting if the pillar men’s abilities are recontextualized as stand abilities with Kars needing the stone to have a stone mask grant him a requiem stand that makes him the ultimate life form.
While the video is pretty good, and I did enjoy the idea of Dio fighting Kars, there's a major issue revolving around timestop. The fact of the matter is, Dio said that it took him half a year before he even realized he had it. Given the timeframe of part 1, Dio wouldn't even learn about timestop until around the end of part 1, after Dio does the final battle between him and the rest of Johnathan's group. So to be more accurate, Dio's stand, The World would be akin to Star Platinum.
Now, you can argue that due to all the life-threatening events Dio partook in, it may of caused him to learn about timestop early on. And while that's a good point, my counter evidence comes in the form of Jotaro's Star Platinum. Star Platinum is a good frame of reference for an inexperienced The World, as it's been stated these two stands are the same, and are presented as such. Given Jotaro in the events of part 3, and how he recently got Star Platinum and used it in the span of 50 days, it's safe to assume Jotaro is inexperienced with his stand.
Jotaro, in all of his life or death battles, never ONCE used timestop. Even against Dark Blue Moon, a stand that seriously messed up Jotaro, he didn't use timestop as an instinctive reflex, he used Star Finger instead. Or the fights against D'arby and N'Doul, perfect times to use time-stop, but he never once did. The only time Jotaro used timestop is when he learned about it mid-fight against Dio, and had to rapidly learn to move in and cause time stopping. The only reason Jotaro learned the ability as fast as he did was because he learned it from an expert, Dio. Rather than through time-consuming experimentation with his stand to figure out if he even had it like Dio did, Jotaro got his power specifically by learning about it and training with it from there. This proves the ability to time stop doesn't spontaneously occur under high stress circumstances, it occurs only when people have either trained with their stand enough to figure out time stop, or learned about the ability early on from an expert. This also simultaneously proves time stop isn't based on the user's strength. So even if Dio did have maximum power of a vampire alongside his stand, it would still take just as much time to figure out time stop as it did for part 3 DIO.
To sum it up, Dio would not have timestop for the majority of part 1's story, he'd just have the insane brute force, accuracy, and speed of The World. I do hope you see this and get where I'm coming from, please correct me on anything I missed. That's all I have to say on the matter, other than that have a good day and cheers.
I imagine it's more that the stone masks give you a stan when you had a powerful enough fighting spirit. Like, the type of people that could get a stan eventually, or at least survive a stan arrow hit.
I think Jonathan would’ve had a stronger stand
Because stands are manifestations of your fighting spirit right? And DIO constantly gets thrown off by how ridiculously powerful Jonathan’s fighting spirit is like how he says something to the effect of “the harder you hit Jojo the more force he comes at you with” so since Jonathan has way more fighting spirit than DIO he should also have a pretty crazy stand not just hermit purple I don’t think it makes sense for a buff like Hamon to automatically give you a weaker stand than you’d most likely get otherwise
I’d call The World Requiem “Heaven’s World”
“The world’s Heaven.”
Jonathan with Hermit Purple would Road Roller the whole part up until Dio due to how broken it would be to have the ability to summon invisible vines that conduct 100% of his Hamon energy Hamon. He'd basically have a spamable ranged Hamon attack to one-shot all of Dio's zombies and solo Bruford and Tarkus at the same time.
My stand Todo meco mi cuervo makes time move naturally disabling time stand but is useless in melee combat
But dosen't that mean that it's only useful against time minipulating stands which would mean you'll get bodied by Killer Queen, D4C and ect
Stand Name: C.R.E.A.M.
Stand user: Ice Cube
Ability: C.R.E.A.M is a short ranged stand with the ability to hyper focus any heat within a certain radius. He focuses heat inside the void within his stand, draining the heat from the radius. This can also apply to any other sort of force, like electricity.
There is already a stand called cream
This was so fcking amazing wow
The real question I beg is if it were Ultimate Kars against The World Vampire Dio given that Light Novel version of Kars can literally use any stand and understand anything
I have a cool theory, whenever dio destroys the temple in Tibet he finds the red stone of Aja and he would sense something about it and after some tinkering he combines it with the stone mask and uses it to become dio: the ultimate life form
I feel like if stands did exist during Phantom Blood, I feel like Dio gaining the World would be a tiny bit passive? You remember Shadow DIO’s stand in Hftf? I feel like it would function a lot like that. I don’t think he should have Times-top yet but if he does I can imagine it being way shorter and be more not to the point of being unnoticeable but not to the point of being strong. Maybe have so Dio can subconsciously use it as it could add more stakes to him and Johnathon’s showdown, only until Part 3 where it starts becoming aware of it.
As for the Pillar-man I would just say not to give them stands. I feel like most of the stand users in Part 2 wouldn’t have overly crazy abilities but not too weak either. Maybe part 2 can be the part where its mostly armed stands (like Emperor and Hermit Purple)
So this basically becomes the Dio show now. Poor Jonathan didn't even stand a chance.
Pun not intended
Jonathan's stand is exactly the same as Hermit purple we see DIO use it in the of part 3
Exactly, I don’t know why noone’s pointed this out.
Zeppeli: Can't have stand since too old
Tonpetty: Can have stand since too old
Jonathan with Hermit Purple against the World: Well...... Fuck.
What if Araki went through with his original plan of making Fugo betray the gang?
This man is so underrated
I honestly think that had Dio not had Jonathan's body, he wouldn't have gotten the world as his stand. Remember that having Joestar blood had a great significance in the Jojo storyline and most descendants if not all of them have stands. But when Dio takes that new body, it makes him a Joestar. So we don't really know how that would work.
The world requiem wouldnt really have stats much like gold experience requiem. Though I would like to think ability wise he would be able to stop time infinity at this point. Though it's original speed, strength, senses as well as precision would improve tenfold. I would like to add another ability since we really didn't get to see much in terms of what the world can do. Being able to do minor rewinding and fast forwarding of time about 10 or so seconds. Kind of like The World Over Heaven or King Crimson but not at the same time. He could also have potential to overwrite space itself since it and time seemed to go hand in hand.
Anyways a name suggestion for this could be The Heaven Ascended World or The World Over Heaven like from eyes of heaven.
plot twist: it will be normal part one because stands existed many years before part 1 so nobody had a stand because their werent there yet
b-but they were there!
No... not really. Reckoning is a bitch
they were there,we just couldnt see them because we werent stand users.duh
Another what if for this what if, is if Johnathon does manage to defeat him to some extent similar to the original part one ending where he ends up needing to taking over Jonathon's body thus nerfing his stand growth. Allowing the hamon community time to grow, searching for the secret of stand development (in this case, the arrows) and leading to a battle worthy of comparison to the part two climax. Then part 3 being the awakening of the pillar men later on perhaps by the hamon users in a plea/collaboration/truce to save the world they both inhabit from the evil that of Dio. Then with the body share from Johnathon, leading to a pseudo-Giorno to be birthed and said child protesting his father's will.
Fuck I'd read the shit out of that manga.
GREAT VIDEO BTW
If I remember correctly, he was able to obtain a 10 second time stop in 6 months. If I did the math correctly, he would obtain a 24 hour time stop in a little less then 12 years.
This was my math:
60 * 60 * 24 for the total seconds in a day, and divide that by 365 for the days in the year (not including a possible leap year in that space of time) and 20 for the amount of seconds he gets a year.
To be fair I think his time stop would be higher because of how quickly he increased his time stop while fighting Jotora, but thay could have been situational because of the constant use of time stop.
If I was wrong (could be not someone that knows the lore only watched part 3 anime (sorry)) and he only gets 10 seconds a year, he have to wait less then 24 years, not bad for an immortal being.
What if DIO couldn't master the world, what if like star platinum, DIO originally thinks the world is just superfast....
1:23 lol ofc spin gives a stand, did u not see ball breaker come from the perfect spin in part 7?
Honestly, this Dio would have a version of The World know as Shadow the World, like the videogame one, and evolve once his head is on Jonathan's body. Jonathan's stand would have a dif stand name like Phantom's Hamon since once he got hit he would've gained it, sta d being a mix of Star Platnium and Hermit Purple (making the Hermit for Johnny and Platnium for Jotaro) I think the others for the trio is accurate...
Hermit purple versus the world quite interesting
Then 100 years later he gets murdered by an invisible assassin.
PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER The most terrifying stands
Bro you predicted hermit purple form jojolion
Can you go over how events like WW2 or Vietnam would have changed if stand users existed and stands for the major figures in it
Mmmmmm
I pogged so hard
also what if spin was in part 1
Mannnnn fuck that’s a good idea
@@METAsMETAs Part 1 Dio with The World vs. Jonathan with Tusk Act 4 would be one hell of a fight
@@zetaniloticus tusk wont even have to try to clap dio .-.
I would think that the world would be weakened due to dio not have the stand as long as he has it in star dust crusaders
Actually well timestop is extremely short at the start so it'd basically be useless
You forgot, Jonathan's and dios stand are the same type of stands
SUNLIGHT YELLOW OVERDRI- nah let me do this ORA ORA ORA
Johnathan’s stand should be named “OVERDRIVE!”
What if, there was a small remainder of people left in this world, and a person with multiple personality disorder finds the stand arrow and cut himself by accident. He gains the power of king crimson and truly believes he can defeat Dio. The hamon clan adopts him and he finally faces Dio, he looks 5 seconds into the future and kills Dio. Sorry this comment is terrible.
I dunno everything I'd give johnathan in a stand but I do know I'd give him something like stone free allowing him to touch stands meaning he can mostly keep his fighting style
Nice
Za Warudo's timestop would be probably little over than 1 second since dio got 7 seconds troughout almost 100 years of training
DIO optaind "The world requiem over the haven"
I think it would be more interesting if part 1 The World had a weaker ability still tangential to timestop, but timestop wasnt developed until part 3. Like what about *slowing down* time fore veryone else that could be a lot more interesting I think
This would all go up until dio encounters a version of jotaro powerful enough to kill him. Plus knowing dio he would figure out how to use the red stone of Asia with the stone mask to become ultimate dio
I'm pretty sure that Stands wouldn't be able to let the vampires triumph over the three ascended pillar men, even if they had millenias worth of training. Pillar men can only be killed via Sunlight and derivatives of it(i.e the Ripple, UV Light etc.). Stopping time and blowing a hole through Cars would only cause him to regen it later on with no permanent damage. Whereas the pillar men consume vampires for sustenance, that alone would let the three of them simply have a feast on Dio's army, who wouldn't be able to so much as damage the pillar men(unless one of Dio's minions had a stand like Arabia Fats', but I don't see that being able to harm the pillar men unless the stand damaged the user and other vampires as well).
I feel DIO would call his completed stand "Heaven on earth"
I think if the belligerents of ww1 saw zombies and vampires running amuck, they would probably treat that as the bigger threat and agree to deal with them first.. even if bullets don't do much they have millions of men, artillery, aircraft and the new tech of the tonk to deal with them. not even time stop would be enough to hold off millions of men shooting bullets, artillery shells and air strikes
Before this video begins I can already feel that dio is gonna stomp everyone with his full powered body and the world he would stomp everyone unless Jonathan has star platinum instead of the passion
What if humanity gave kars the stone of aja in a desperate attempt to kill dio? (A what if of a what if lol)
Holy shit an actual video ny METAs how???
I think that gives the world to Dio its the potencial beetwen his personality and the jhonnathan joestar body, I mean the hamon could be similar to the sun not just for his heat and uv radiation, maybe altering the electromagnetuc spectrum, the ripple kinda thing, joshep with his connection with cameras and televisions, and tomph peti seeing the future could be some capacity for a hamon user to achive, so i think if stands are presente in phantom blood, the hamon users use the bypass energy hability of Zepelli to give Jonnathan a chance to fight Dio, becuase Thomp could see their failaure in their future, so Joestar unlocked Star Platinum kind of stand... jsjsj
P.D: the pillarmen used the stone mask, so they have stands too in this what if
P.D: I wrote this awful, but in my country its 3 A.M I'm sorry
What if johnathan mastered ham on to the same degree as Johnny’s spin I’d like to see a concept for hermit purple act 4 infinite ripple
Also I think William would get a stand but I don’t think it would be his I think he would unlock the hamon version of ball breakers the stand of hamon
Yeah tbh I think Jonathan should have a stand with Hamons infinite rotation
Basically the end is DIO getting ZA WARUDO OVA HEAVEN
TL:DR Dio lives up to his name
Can you do a part 2 where Jonathan had a cousin who has a descendant that will be the next Joestar that gains Star Platinum or King Crimson from losing his parents one of Dio’s zombie attacks. Although this new Joestar will probably need to stop Dio alongside the pillar men or right after
If that was the case then that’d mean 100 years later Dio would be able to stop for as long as he wants
I bet Bruford would have a stand as well