Usually yes if it is caused by your connection to the wireless access point or router, but not if it is caused by your ISP. Great question and thanks for the feedback.
For people with AMD motherboards: Mediatek and Qualcomm released wifi7 modules that work great on AMD platforms, namely the MT7925 and QCNCM865. Btw, there is something wrong with your wifi6 configuration. Looks more like a wifi5 result. You should get around 700mbps with Wifi6.
I didn't know WiFi 7 chipsets have already been released, thanks for the tip! I'm using a Fenvi AX210 on my PC. Is it possible and will there be a difference if I replaced the included m.2 card with a BE200? Same question goes for my laptop which currently runs with a AX201 card.
@@MikeFaucher what would be the downsoide of upgrading if planning to use a wifi 6e router? I currently have a laptop with wifi5 card and plan to buy a wifi 6e router. Should I still push to get a wifi 7 card?
The access points themselves are only 2.5G so anything faster will not help. A 2.5G will be fine for WiFi 7. You can check my recent review of the Unifi Pro Max (th-cam.com/video/cnBCQtN2Eto/w-d-xo.html) for an example. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it.
Hi, thanks for the info. I just want to ask, I’m getting a 10Gbps internet plan…they’re providing a wifi 7 router(tp-link EB810v BE22000), I saw online that wifi 7 theoretical speed is over 40Gbps…so if I get one of these wifi 7 PCIe adapter I can make full use of my internet speed right???!!
Currently it is next to impossible to max out a 10Gbps connection on Wi-Fi so I doubt you will get there. That said, you will a very nice speed bump compared to current standards. Realistically, 10Gbps will only be achievable with ethernet. Even with the latest MLO features enabled in Wi-Fi 7, the "best" you can expect is half of that. Let me know what speeds you actually get.
Mike some bad news to report. So i tested out eap-773 with the samsung s24 ultra. Wifi 7 is not working. Seems it's country blocked feature probably software based. Because in Singapore wifi7 works for it, but not for Malaysia right next door. So i could only test wifi 6. I barely hit close to 1gig speeds on the 6ghz band. The band steering auto changes between 5ghz and 6ghz, so the connections remains stable and sufficient throughout the place. So it's much better than my old ubiquiti ap lite which was a wifi 5 ap. It's way more stable.
@@MikeFaucher yeah someone on samsung was saying for samsung phones it took 1-2 years before they even added wifi 6e for malaysia samsung phones. this issue apparently only got solved as recent in the last few months earlier. So i'm not too optimistic that wifi 7 will be enabled anytime soon based on that timeline. But wifi 6 and 6GHz including 320 MHz band seem to be fine atm 🤔 Sg next door already have wifi 7 enabled for their S24 Ultra by samsung 🤨 If the issue was not yet given the ok by Malaysia yet, Samsung could have said that was the case. But they didn't instead they simply said in Malaysia it's wifi 6 only. The spec sheet link the gave me listed the S24 Ultra for malaysia as having Wifi BE is basically wifi 7. But in the fine print below they say "* Wi-Fi 7 network availability may vary by market, network provider and user environment. Requires optimal connection.Will require a Wi-Fi 7 router. " www.samsung.com/my/smartphones/galaxy-s24-ultra/specs/ It's only when you contact their customer service before they clarify wifi 7 is not available for the Malaysian model, despite it having the snapdragon chip.
@@rheh2570 ty for the info. i didn't know this. when i asked mcmc as a general enquiry it just sounded like there was no clear issue. so thx for the clarification.
@@AinzOoalG0wn there's no 320 MHz in Wi-Fi 6, and i got 1.9 Gig on Wi-Fi 6 in 5 GHz with 160 MHz on Beryl AX router, check your setting to make sure Oh and i tested it on a laptop with Intel AX210 , don't have a phone with Wi-Fi 6 yet
I got the BE1750x killer intel wifi 7 card for my lenovo legion 9i (gen) and for the life of me I cant get the 6ghz to show up... similar issue with the ax1675i (wifi 6e card that came with the laptop... if I update the driver to anything it kills the 6ghz on the laptop... only work around was to install the 22.45.1.1 intel driver). if anyone has had the same issue with the wifi 7 card not showing 6ghz networks, please fill us in on a solution if you got it!
Im getting a pc soon and i want good wifi i have xfinity 1500 mps wireless but i want to get a wifi router i was looking at that asus router for $700 for wifi 7 but idk if my pc supports wifi 7 its running windows 11 on some decent software but do i need to know anything specific to run wifi 7?
found out more info. seems for tplink their archer, deco and omada series wifi7 stuff might have MLO issues in regard to the samsung S24 Ultra. There is a beta firmware that may fix it, but i have no access to it to find out. But this issue was report as early as a few days to a week ago so it's probably still a problem right now. Even the EAP-773 which i ordered was explicitly mentioned having the issue for this phone model. Funnily enough the pixel 8 has working mlo with the EAP-773 (but it has a different problem where it's limited to 160MHz band vs the samsung s24 ultra 320 MHz)
@@MikeFaucher mlo not working for you either? guess we are in the same camp then 🤣 haven't tested it yet myself. but i read the issues exist. ap should arrive in a week. will see 😉
Quite a strange test. All cards are the same - BE200. When using the same external antenna, they will give absolutely the same result. Differences can be caused by either fluctuations in interference in the air or manufacturing defects. If you use different antennas, then this is an antenna test. It would be much more useful to test different adapters - MTK, Intel, Qualcomm, Realtek.
That is mostly because of the amount of device there are that support it but if you are buying an AP or router, I would get Wifi 7 now and be ready. Great point.
@@MikeFaucher i do need a new wifi ap. i was thinking of either a mesh with wireless/wired backhaul. or, an ap. tplink deco has wifi7 mesh, and based on the reviews it works great. My only issue is the privacy question. I wouldn't use it as a router, but is the privacy issue resolved if using simply in ap mode only? You would have to login to the tplinkg mobile app anytime you want to administer the device, but after you no need to open the app. I'm just worried tplink tattles on my traffik to some server china for no reason x-x; other options are eero. Heard it's it's unreliable and has drop outs. bad reviews. Ubiquiti hard to get for my country due to legal dispute so they no longer export directly to the country. also i saw amazon it had bad reviews. I own a unifi wifi5 ap which i liked, but i'm wary of the u7 pro which feels like a beta product and not to mention the reviews about it. So what other wifi 7 option are there? Also the point that crosstalk mention if you check the schedule for wifi7 validation which doesn't quite end until near end of Q4 2024. This is why i felt it better to wait first.
@@MikeFaucher i consulted a fellow countryman. apparently they got their ubiquiti from singapore since they work there. so the only option is forward shipping. looking into that right now. but i'll probly wait 2025 xd
hello i have a wifi 6 im looking to buy a wifi card but im not sure which to buy should i buy one from this video or does it have to say wifi 6 specifically for it to work my wifi plan is 300 and 10 and my router is down stairs and im up
Any of these or any Wi-Fi 7 card will work. They are all backwards compatible. I would recommend the latest like Wi-Fi 7 so you are ready when things change.
mike i bit the bullet and getting wifi7. for ap i went with tplink eap-773 for client i went with the samsung s24 ultra the eap has a 10g-tbase port, but i don't have a 10g tbase port switch. so i also had to get a sfp+ 10g-tbase module. for affordability it's still within range now, but you can get a wifi 6e ap or mesh for half the price, meaning for a 2pack mesh wifi 6e you can pay half the price of a single wifi 7 unit. also there are not many clients out there. the cheapest ones are the china smartphone brands. The cheapest western brand is the google pixel 8, but that doesn't have 320 MHz band. The samsung s24 Ultra which i am getting does. i also want to mention, the intel wifi7 cards do not work on amd systems. instead, you may want to use the qualcom chipsets e.g. like the msi wifi 7 pcie addon card (this has the qualcom chip) should work on amd systems. This is probably the cheapest way to add wifi 7 to a client device (e.g. desktop pc) If you want the best wifi 7 experience, the Asus ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro is it. Because it has the combination of AFC and MLO which are killer features (note: you of course need a wifi7 client device to benefir from this). The afc especially makes the range for the 6GHz supposedly similar to that of the 5GHz. without it, expect the 6GHz to be a much short range by comparison.
@@MikeFaucher will do 😉 the only video i saw so far that did a test was this one th-cam.com/video/BC6wu1pi8Ts/w-d-xo.html i did buy a sfp+ 10g base t module, but now that i think about it, it won't have poe++ ? so i may have to stick to the 2.5gbe ports or get a poe++ injector which i heard are pretty expensive. In future i might upgrade to a proper 10g base t switch with poe++ so the later will probably be what i go with.
@@MikeFaucher there was also a wifi7 test for the samsung s24 ultra but it's not in english. also this guy didn't use the 320 MHz capable wifi7 ap, so he isn't maxing out what it's capable of th-cam.com/video/GOK2kby2nqA/w-d-xo.html
Really useful video. Is latency (ping) also directly improved with the increase in data transfer speed?
Usually yes if it is caused by your connection to the wireless access point or router, but not if it is caused by your ISP. Great question and thanks for the feedback.
What is the chipset for these pcie card?
As stated in the video, they all use the Intel BE200 chipset.
@@MikeFaucher Thanks. By the way, my Ax210 with wifi5 got 600mbps and with Wifi6 got 1000 mbps because bootable neck on lan port 1000mbps
For people with AMD motherboards: Mediatek and Qualcomm released wifi7 modules that work great on AMD platforms, namely the MT7925 and QCNCM865.
Btw, there is something wrong with your wifi6 configuration. Looks more like a wifi5 result. You should get around 700mbps with Wifi6.
Thanks for the feedback. My Wi-Fi 6 has over 80 devices on it and it runs a bit slower with all the traffic. Good catch.
U should test that mediatek one, its better than intel and qualcomm as far as i know @@MikeFaucher
I didn't know WiFi 7 chipsets have already been released, thanks for the tip! I'm using a Fenvi AX210 on my PC. Is it possible and will there be a difference if I replaced the included m.2 card with a BE200? Same question goes for my laptop which currently runs with a AX201 card.
Absolutely but only if you get a WiFi 7 router or access point to take advantage of it. Otherwise there will not be much gain.
@@MikeFaucher what would be the downsoide of upgrading if planning to use a wifi 6e router? I currently have a laptop with wifi5 card and plan to buy a wifi 6e router. Should I still push to get a wifi 7 card?
I’d be tempted to try swapping the antennas round to see if it was just a faulty antenna rather than the card itself.
You can but I doubt it would be the antenna. Worth a shot though.
I think for wifi 7 you need a 10G base T Poe++ not sure if 2.5G base T would be able to provide the required bandwidth over copper
The access points themselves are only 2.5G so anything faster will not help. A 2.5G will be fine for WiFi 7. You can check my recent review of the Unifi Pro Max (th-cam.com/video/cnBCQtN2Eto/w-d-xo.html) for an example. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it.
Hi, thanks for the info. I just want to ask, I’m getting a 10Gbps internet plan…they’re providing a wifi 7 router(tp-link EB810v BE22000), I saw online that wifi 7 theoretical speed is over 40Gbps…so if I get one of these wifi 7 PCIe adapter I can make full use of my internet speed right???!!
Currently it is next to impossible to max out a 10Gbps connection on Wi-Fi so I doubt you will get there. That said, you will a very nice speed bump compared to current standards. Realistically, 10Gbps will only be achievable with ethernet. Even with the latest MLO features enabled in Wi-Fi 7, the "best" you can expect is half of that. Let me know what speeds you actually get.
2x2 is not enough for 10gbe. Run a wire. Wifi7 at 320mhz is the fastest you can get via wifi
Mike some bad news to report. So i tested out eap-773 with the samsung s24 ultra. Wifi 7 is not working. Seems it's country blocked feature probably software based. Because in Singapore wifi7 works for it, but not for Malaysia right next door.
So i could only test wifi 6. I barely hit close to 1gig speeds on the 6ghz band. The band steering auto changes between 5ghz and 6ghz, so the connections remains stable and sufficient throughout the place. So it's much better than my old ubiquiti ap lite which was a wifi 5 ap. It's way more stable.
Thanks for the feedback. Did not know Wi-Fi 7 was country blocked. Good to know.
@@MikeFaucher yeah someone on samsung was saying for samsung phones it took 1-2 years before they even added wifi 6e for malaysia samsung phones. this issue apparently only got solved as recent in the last few months earlier.
So i'm not too optimistic that wifi 7 will be enabled anytime soon based on that timeline.
But wifi 6 and 6GHz including 320 MHz band seem to be fine atm 🤔
Sg next door already have wifi 7 enabled for their S24 Ultra by samsung 🤨
If the issue was not yet given the ok by Malaysia yet, Samsung could have said that was the case. But they didn't instead they simply said in Malaysia it's wifi 6 only.
The spec sheet link the gave me listed the S24 Ultra for malaysia as having Wifi BE is basically wifi 7. But in the fine print below they say "* Wi-Fi 7 network availability may vary by market, network provider and user environment. Requires optimal connection.Will require a Wi-Fi 7 router. "
www.samsung.com/my/smartphones/galaxy-s24-ultra/specs/
It's only when you contact their customer service before they clarify wifi 7 is not available for the Malaysian model, despite it having the snapdragon chip.
not all bands for wifi7 is approved yet.. it's going through approval SIRIM approval.
@@rheh2570 ty for the info. i didn't know this. when i asked mcmc as a general enquiry it just sounded like there was no clear issue. so thx for the clarification.
@@AinzOoalG0wn there's no 320 MHz in Wi-Fi 6, and i got 1.9 Gig on Wi-Fi 6 in 5 GHz with 160 MHz on Beryl AX router, check your setting to make sure
Oh and i tested it on a laptop with Intel AX210 , don't have a phone with Wi-Fi 6 yet
I got the BE1750x killer intel wifi 7 card for my lenovo legion 9i (gen) and for the life of me I cant get the 6ghz to show up... similar issue with the ax1675i (wifi 6e card that came with the laptop... if I update the driver to anything it kills the 6ghz on the laptop... only work around was to install the 22.45.1.1 intel driver).
if anyone has had the same issue with the wifi 7 card not showing 6ghz networks, please fill us in on a solution if you got it!
What router or AP are connecting to.
do all those pcie cards have a removable card under the heatsink?
Can't answer that as I did not take these apart. Great question.
Im getting a pc soon and i want good wifi i have xfinity 1500 mps wireless but i want to get a wifi router i was looking at that asus router for $700 for wifi 7 but idk if my pc supports wifi 7 its running windows 11 on some decent software but do i need to know anything specific to run wifi 7?
You need a WiFi 7 router and a WiFi 7 device like a laptop and that is pretty much it.
@@MikeFaucher yeah i found out the motherboard on my pc supports only wifi 6 i will probably upgrade down the line
found out more info. seems for tplink their archer, deco and omada series wifi7 stuff might have MLO issues in regard to the samsung S24 Ultra. There is a beta firmware that may fix it, but i have no access to it to find out. But this issue was report as early as a few days to a week ago so it's probably still a problem right now. Even the EAP-773 which i ordered was explicitly mentioned having the issue for this phone model. Funnily enough the pixel 8 has working mlo with the EAP-773 (but it has a different problem where it's limited to 160MHz band vs the samsung s24 ultra 320 MHz)
Good to hear. I am still waiting for UniFi to enable the MLO functions so I can test this out.
@@MikeFaucher mlo not working for you either? guess we are in the same camp then 🤣
haven't tested it yet myself. but i read the issues exist. ap should arrive in a week. will see
😉
@@AinzOoalG0wn nope. Released from Ubiquiti yet.
Quite a strange test. All cards are the same - BE200. When using the same external antenna, they will give absolutely the same result. Differences can be caused by either fluctuations in interference in the air or manufacturing defects. If you use different antennas, then this is an antenna test. It would be much more useful to test different adapters - MTK, Intel, Qualcomm, Realtek.
Thanks for the feedback. At the time of this video all that was available to me was the BE200. Appreciate the input.
Dang I just bought the qfly and tested it at 1.24 gigabytes a sec
Pretty good results, glad it worked out for you.
crosstalk said wait for 2025 or the end of 2024 for wifi7 🤔
That is mostly because of the amount of device there are that support it but if you are buying an AP or router, I would get Wifi 7 now and be ready. Great point.
Hope you get it sooner!
@@MikeFaucher i do need a new wifi ap. i was thinking of either a mesh with wireless/wired backhaul. or, an ap.
tplink deco has wifi7 mesh, and based on the reviews it works great. My only issue is the privacy question. I wouldn't use it as a router, but is the privacy issue resolved if using simply in ap mode only? You would have to login to the tplinkg mobile app anytime you want to administer the device, but after you no need to open the app. I'm just worried tplink tattles on my traffik to some server china for no reason x-x;
other options are eero. Heard it's it's unreliable and has drop outs. bad reviews.
Ubiquiti hard to get for my country due to legal dispute so they no longer export directly to the country. also i saw amazon it had bad reviews. I own a unifi wifi5 ap which i liked, but i'm wary of the u7 pro which feels like a beta product and not to mention the reviews about it.
So what other wifi 7 option are there? Also the point that crosstalk mention if you check the schedule for wifi7 validation which doesn't quite end until near end of Q4 2024. This is why i felt it better to wait first.
@@MikeFaucher i consulted a fellow countryman. apparently they got their ubiquiti from singapore since they work there. so the only option is forward shipping. looking into that right now. but i'll probly wait 2025 xd
@@AinzOoalG0wn Good luck and let me know.
You will be shocked when you learn that inside these cards there is Internet just like the one outside 😂
You are right, I have taken many of these apart but there are exceptions. Good point.
hello i have a wifi 6 im looking to buy a wifi card but im not sure which to buy should i buy one from this video or does it have to say wifi 6 specifically for it to work my wifi plan is 300 and 10 and my router is down stairs and im up
Any of these or any Wi-Fi 7 card will work. They are all backwards compatible. I would recommend the latest like Wi-Fi 7 so you are ready when things change.
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Thanks for the feedback.
set video speed to 1.25x
Thanks for the feedback.
saw a u7 pro review here
th-cam.com/video/yEGfDVcFcJk/w-d-xo.html
very detailed and they brought up some bugs 🤔
Thanks, I checked it out and he did a good job.
short answer: NO
you're welcome
Thanks for you input.
The most boring video I have ever watched dude is unbelievably mono tone
@@Allious131 Thanks for the feedback. I have heard this before.
mike i bit the bullet and getting wifi7.
for ap i went with tplink eap-773
for client i went with the samsung s24 ultra
the eap has a 10g-tbase port, but i don't have a 10g tbase port switch. so i also had to get a sfp+ 10g-tbase module.
for affordability it's still within range now, but you can get a wifi 6e ap or mesh for half the price, meaning for a 2pack mesh wifi 6e you can pay half the price of a single wifi 7 unit.
also there are not many clients out there. the cheapest ones are the china smartphone brands. The cheapest western brand is the google pixel 8, but that doesn't have 320 MHz band. The samsung s24 Ultra which i am getting does.
i also want to mention, the intel wifi7 cards do not work on amd systems. instead, you may want to use the qualcom chipsets e.g. like the msi wifi 7 pcie addon card (this has the qualcom chip) should work on amd systems. This is probably the cheapest way to add wifi 7 to a client device (e.g. desktop pc)
If you want the best wifi 7 experience, the Asus ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro is it. Because it has the combination of AFC and MLO which are killer features (note: you of course need a wifi7 client device to benefir from this). The afc especially makes the range for the 6GHz supposedly similar to that of the 5GHz. without it, expect the 6GHz to be a much short range by comparison.
Great detail and thanks for the feedback. Good luck with the EAP-773 and let me how you like it. They made look much nicer in this new series.
@@MikeFaucher will do 😉
the only video i saw so far that did a test was this one
th-cam.com/video/BC6wu1pi8Ts/w-d-xo.html
i did buy a sfp+ 10g base t module, but now that i think about it, it won't have poe++ ? so i may have to stick to the 2.5gbe ports or get a poe++ injector which i heard are pretty expensive. In future i might upgrade to a proper 10g base t switch with poe++ so the later will probably be what i go with.
@@MikeFaucher there was also a wifi7 test for the samsung s24 ultra but it's not in english. also this guy didn't use the 320 MHz capable wifi7 ap, so he isn't maxing out what it's capable of
th-cam.com/video/GOK2kby2nqA/w-d-xo.html