She was 32 and btw i thought society tells us women mature faster than men (which i definitely dont believe. "Girl Math", im just a girl trend). So at 32 she should've been more mature
She definitely thinks highly of herself. Unfortunately, she is not that pretty even though she may think that she is God's gift to men. She is not aging very gracefully and probably should lay off the drugs and alcohol for a while. Her body obviously needs some time to heal both physically and mentally.
This man is appalling. He was a 45 year old dating a 21 year old. And he had to shame her for being "...a dancer. Basically a stripper." Then he gets back together with her 10 years later. And he went to her work (like he hadn't been there before) and talked about how disgusting the place was. Seriously? This is the pot calling the kettle black. What a horrible man.
THIS ^^^^^^^^^ They do it to any female who does any kind of sex work. It boggles my mind how men STILL get slapped on the hands and women get the scarlet letter.
@@davidperez5089 Legit she sounded kinda stoned or under the influence when she spoke. If she thinks THAT is "the most beautiful girl", she needs her head checked. Her attitude in the courtoom (aside from what she said about what he did) SUCKED, and I would be ready to kick her ass out if she started acting like she ran MY home and life. Guy wasn't any better though; He still wants to be with someone half his age that's not even a relative, despite the judge realizing that they're toxic, HIS OWN DAUGHTER syaing the same thing, and also being referred to as a whore in front of anyone watching this.
@@davidperez5089clearly it was good enough for him, I’m still gonna criticize the creepy dude who picks this girl over the girl for being a trainwreck lol
JM was interested in the tea. A lot of drama here. Mostly sad but interesting to listen to. - like a train wreck that you can’t peel your eyes away from.
Haha! Came here to say this!! I absolutely love her! No lying, no bs, no fake personality. She listened to every word JM said without rudeness or interruption.
@TheRedScareIsAlive well I understand about psychology but based on personal experience I know it also comes a time when you as an individual have to take responsibility for your own psychological well being.
whenever that woman said she CHERISHED the ring I was very concerned that they could still get back together. she needs some serious help to find her self-esteem- my heart breaks for her
@7:14 I rannnnn to the comments!!!🤣🤣🤣 Edit: Shout out to JM's poker face bc I literally tried to put myself in her shoes, and tried to keep from laughing and I failed every time 😂
@@oldageisdumb That could be so, and I have major respect for that. That being said , that doesnt take away from the judges reaction, esp, since she joked abt it right before that. It looked, to me, like she was trying to stay professional.
@@DanceArchives24 I think she made a joke but when the defendant carried it to that level, Judge M suddenly realized there were some mental health issues and sobered up
@@oldageisdumb Yes, that's definitely possible and, good on her, if so. We need more empathy in this world. I have my own MH issue/struggles since I was 7yrs old, so I would never minimize that of any one else's, however, I do believe it's healthy to be able to laugh at ourselves now and then, regardless, of our issues. I know that I do many, many things that if I were in front of cameras, I know ppl would get a good laugh, and Id be okay with that given how much darkness and sadness is in the world. I love to see ppl smiling and laughing 😃
The plaintiff wants a traditional behaved woman,and he thinks that he can find such a woman in a young girl with a traumatic past working as a dancer in bars.He as a adult men took advantage of young woman to satisfy himself.For all she went through at least he could let her keep the ring.I think that the ring gave her some feeling of value in her life.
Plus if you was really so abusive, why would she want to keep and wear the ring?? Wouldn't it remind her of how terrible those times were? She obviously wants to be with him
I'm not sure if it was the childhood abuse/trauma she experienced or if she's just a bit mentally delayed, but it's quite evident by the things she says and ways she says them she's not completely together. Hopefully, she has someone in her life to help her grow and make better decisions. If this was her mentality in her 30/40s, it's safe to assume she was very childlike at 21. In that case, he preyed on her and was able to manipulate the situation because of their difference in life experience and maturity. She has a ton of growing to do, and he needs to reflect on his fault/s within this relationship and pray his daughter doesn't meet an older man just like him in the future!
I think she's a fine-looking person I'm more concerned about her emotional issues. Do you judge people by their appearance rather than their character beauty is only skin deep I wonder how cute people think you are would you like to be judged only on your appearance
Even if she didn't bring the ring to court she would have been given so many days to return it or she would have to pay not the full price but the depreciation price of the ring if she wanted to keep it
If money is the motivation for her, control is the motivation for him. He is such a has been loser who knows any adult female would never put up with his BS. She is no prize, but my heart does go out to her because you can tell she is not very smart and has no support system coming from a bad family. He's just a creep
That is exactly what I was thinking, but you left out the other motivation for him, sex. And if we are to believe her about his cheating, he likes to pick up lonely, vulnerable women at bars.
@rockobill7637, the OP and your comment i agree with both, but he definitely used small gifts to control her, I mean the ring is the issue here and look how she acted about the ring, he controlled her with a ring there's no telling what else
What a strange case, she could be his daughter! They still have feelings for each other but are clearly no good for each other and I think if the opportunity presents itself they would be back together. Crazy!
We need to normalize not throwing our kids out at age 18. I'm glad they are broken up and they need to keep it that way. His daughter was disappointed in the hallway.
What are you talking about? I was in an Army uniform at 17 for 21 years with my mom's signature. My oldest son in a Marine uniform at 17 with my signature. You're a LEGAL adult at 18 a grown adult. Your belong in an adult world, not in mommy and daddy's protective bubble. Only snowflakes think an adult should be at home still....lol
It starts with parenting your kids well and not just having kids because you’re pregnant. Most American parents are parents they complete accident and not through thoughtful planning.
@@Goldengurl704 I noticed you couldn't handle my opinion and had it removed. Pathetic. 18 is a legal adult. Not a child who needs to live in mommy and daddy's bubble. I raised 7 to adulthood and have 20 grandchildren. All left home at 18 or before because of the military at 17 like I did. Only a snowflakes think an 18 year old is a child. The LAW most certainly sees them as adults. Soft, weak, pathetic generation.
Wait so she’s the leech for wanting his money as opposed to his totally pure and genuine love for a 20 year old? Why can’t men just say both are using each other
Wow! Pretty obvious why the Plaintiff went after this gal, the light’s on, but clearly nobody’s home!! (Plus I love her “high” opinion of herself -I was a beautiful girl, you can tell just by looking at me!!) LOL!!!
I don’t think the woman was all there. He’s definitely one of those men who enjoys women in vulnerable situations so he can have the upper hand and be in control. I’m sure she was dependent on him in many ways. With all the trauma she experienced, her emotional maturity was that of a child. He preys on women who will put up with his abuse because they need them.
What in the Howard Stern meets Carol Burnett did I just watch..😂😂😂
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Too funny 😂🤣
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Lmao 😅
Why would he bring his daughter to this?!
and his dad, I betcha
Thinking the same thing.
If you watch the hall interviews, the daughter is the smartest person there for sure!
So she can be embarrassed for him.
She must have wanted some tv time
You can't tell me they weren't either abusing drugs and/or alcohol
Something was definitely going on!
judge milian slowly moving her bang to the side after the defendant said “if you look at me you can tell” had me dead lmfao
That was funny as hell
I don’t know how old this episode is but they’re both very much 80’s in style and hair!
Seems to be 2013 or so
He’s giving Ric Ocasek vibes.
He looks like the singer from WASP
I was thinking Steve Perry!
2014. She said, "15 years ago in 99"
He proposes to a woman 23 years younger than him (21 years old) AND a go-go dancer and is surprised she wasn't 'mature' enough?? Omg!! 🤦♀️
She was 32 when he proposed to her.
Nope.... Listen. They met up again 10 years later and that's when he proposed after a year and a half of dating.
She was 32 and btw i thought society tells us women mature faster than men (which i definitely dont believe. "Girl Math", im just a girl trend). So at 32 she should've been more mature
Yeah no that’s just bs they say to justify messing with children
When the Judge took her hair out her face to see all the beauty the client was speaking of, I was in shambles.
She definitely thinks highly of herself. Unfortunately, she is not that pretty even though she may think that she is God's gift to men. She is not aging very gracefully and probably should lay off the drugs and alcohol for a while. Her body obviously needs some time to heal both physically and mentally.
Lol
The court room was silent but the facial expressions of the audience holding back laughter priceless. 7:29
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@@TheAray6😂😂😂
This man is appalling. He was a 45 year old dating a 21 year old. And he had to shame her for being "...a dancer. Basically a stripper." Then he gets back together with her 10 years later. And he went to her work (like he hadn't been there before) and talked about how disgusting the place was. Seriously? This is the pot calling the kettle black. What a horrible man.
People loooove criticizing strippers/dancers but never the men who keep them in business. This dude is a creep
THIS ^^^^^^^^^ They do it to any female who does any kind of sex work. It boggles my mind how men STILL get slapped on the hands and women get the scarlet letter.
She hasnt looked in a mirror for 20 yrs+... In this case shes begging to be criticized.
@@davidperez5089 Legit she sounded kinda stoned or under the influence when she spoke. If she thinks THAT is "the most beautiful girl", she needs her head checked. Her attitude in the courtoom (aside from what she said about what he did) SUCKED, and I would be ready to kick her ass out if she started acting like she ran MY home and life.
Guy wasn't any better though; He still wants to be with someone half his age that's not even a relative, despite the judge realizing that they're toxic, HIS OWN DAUGHTER syaing the same thing, and also being referred to as a whore in front of anyone watching this.
@@davidperez5089clearly it was good enough for him, I’m still gonna criticize the creepy dude who picks this girl over the girl for being a trainwreck lol
@@davidperez5089The defendant is good looking.
she looks just as old as he does
a hard life will do that to you
My exact thought
She doesn't look that bad.
Promiscuity and drugs and boozing all night can do that to you.
Lol, no she doesn't. She DOES looks her age - almost 40.
I feel like I’m watching “My Cousin Vinny”
No. Don’t do that to My Cousin Vinny.
@@AniqueJoseph LOL
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Yeah but she's no Marisa Tomei
His daughter seemed more mature than both of the litigants
Why did he bring her???
@@lukerinderknecht2982because he's trash
that is because his ex-wife probably raised her alone
I'm glad the judge put the plaintiff in his place. There was no need for him to be rude and disrespectful
If a man spoke to the judge like the defendant did, she would have flipped out.
She called him a whore multiple times.
Women come on there and bad mouth their exes or landlord and the judge never puts them in their place.
@jamalj8660 That's not true. She has called out both men and women for their ignorance. It just varies and only so much can be said per episode.
Judge was particularly patient this episode 😂😅
JM was interested in the tea. A lot of drama here. Mostly sad but interesting to listen to. - like a train wreck that you can’t peel your eyes away from.
Right??!!
I was done with both of them 🥴
Yes. I was hoping she wldnt be screaming this episode.
She was more patience than usual.
I love her honesty, she's real about herself, good, bad, or indifferent ❤
Me too!
Haha! Came here to say this!! I absolutely love her! No lying, no bs, no fake personality. She listened to every word JM said without rudeness or interruption.
Yes all except about that part about you can tell by looking at me
Between the two of them, the chances of finishing a 10 piece puzzle is highly unlikely.
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If someone was abusive to you and you break up, why would you want something that wouldl remind you of that relationship?
To pawn for $
@amydaniels6442 that I could understand, but that's not what she said. She said she cherished it and wanted to keep it.
She's never known any other kind of relationship in her life.
Guess you never learned anything about psychology??? 😂
@TheRedScareIsAlive well I understand about psychology but based on personal experience I know it also comes a time when you as an individual have to take responsibility for your own psychological well being.
Cyndi Lauper and Eddie Van Halen should never have been together. She needs to return the ring, and they both need to move on.
Spot. On. 😂😂😂😂
Eddie Van Halen?? That’s more Jimmy Page 😆
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Noo way. Eddie Vanhalen was hot 🔥 RIP Eddie Vanhalen 😢 🙏
“ if you look at me you can tell” DELULU
the dude behind her when she said that had me lmfao
@ravenna9969, 😂😂
Wow I wonder what you look like
The awkward silence after she said that😂😂😂
She probably really was a very beautiful girl. She is a pretty lady just clearly one who has not cared for herself enough.
whenever that woman said she CHERISHED the ring I was very concerned that they could still get back together. she needs some serious help to find her self-esteem- my heart breaks for her
His daughter at the end! 😆
Sometimes the best thing litigants get from The People’s Court is advice.
I'm so glad this judge points out disgusting dirty old men like this. You could tell the defendant had a hard life that he took advantage of.
@7:14 I rannnnn to the comments!!!🤣🤣🤣
Edit: Shout out to JM's poker face bc I literally tried to put myself in her shoes, and tried to keep from laughing and I failed every time 😂
I feel bad for her. She seriously has some major emotional issues and I think Judge M recognized that at the moment
@@oldageisdumb That could be so, and I have major respect for that. That being said , that doesnt take away from the judges reaction, esp, since she joked abt it right before that. It looked, to me, like she was trying to stay professional.
@@DanceArchives24 I think she made a joke but when the defendant carried it to that level, Judge M suddenly realized there were some mental health issues and sobered up
@@oldageisdumb Yes, that's definitely possible and, good on her, if so. We need more empathy in this world. I have my own MH issue/struggles since I was 7yrs old, so I would never minimize that of any one else's, however, I do believe it's healthy to be able to laugh at ourselves now and then, regardless, of our issues. I know that I do many, many things that if I were in front of cameras, I know ppl would get a good laugh, and Id be okay with that given how much darkness and sadness is in the world. I love to see ppl smiling and laughing 😃
The plaintiff wants a traditional behaved woman,and he thinks that he can find such a woman in a young girl with a traumatic past working as a dancer in bars.He as a adult men took advantage of young woman to satisfy himself.For all she went through at least he could let her keep the ring.I think that the ring gave her some feeling of value in her life.
Well said
Agree
A cheap ass ring as well
I agree!
Bringing her to court was a way for him to see her, did you all see the way eyed her the whole time.
There's no fool like an old fool
It looks like his daughters entire HS Class are in the audience 😂😂
Defendant looks alot older than her age and JM totally right when she said they had no business being together.
I think she’s over 30 now .
He said 10 years later.
These people are crazy 😮
Lmao he didn't realize how gross he came off until the judge said the obvious (the big age difference and talking about maturity but dating a 21 YO)
What he said was that when they met up a second time 10 years later, she (32) was more mature, Not when she was 21
I'm aware of what he said and you only provided a snippet of it
His daughter is older than what the go go dancer was when he met her 😖
adult being with another adult is disgusting?
@@rplayer360 If one of them is still young and not mentally well, it opens the doors for manipulation. Varies from case to case, but in theirs... YES!
He looks like a member of KISS who just removed the makeup
She's still a hurt child. I pray she heals & they don't get back together. Please listen to your daughter.
She seems like the tragic girlfriend in a boxing movie. I hope she learned to break the cycle of abuse.
MAN IF SHE ONLY KNEW HOW VALUABLE SHE REALLY IS. THIS WAS PRETTY INTERESTING AND SAD.
If she REALLY wants to get rid of him, she should just give him the ring back!!!
You saw during the exit interview she really didn't want to give him (or the ring) up lol
Plus if you was really so abusive, why would she want to keep and wear the ring?? Wouldn't it remind her of how terrible those times were? She obviously wants to be with him
Defendant is crazy af.
As is the plaintiff. They're made for each other. 😅
She's obviously a very damaged person. I feel sorry for her and hope she's in a much happier place now.
To be damaged and preyed on...
They are both nut jobs
Plaintiff just as crazy!
I swear they must've gotten back together after this 🤞🏽
I'm not sure if it was the childhood abuse/trauma she experienced or if she's just a bit mentally delayed, but it's quite evident by the things she says and ways she says them she's not completely together. Hopefully, she has someone in her life to help her grow and make better decisions. If this was her mentality in her 30/40s, it's safe to assume she was very childlike at 21. In that case, he preyed on her and was able to manipulate the situation because of their difference in life experience and maturity. She has a ton of growing to do, and he needs to reflect on his fault/s within this relationship and pray his daughter doesn't meet an older man just like him in the future!
I love how his daughter was so annoyed with him 😅
I'm pretty sure that she thinks dad is "cool"
I'm absolutely sure she thinks dad is a nitwit.
probably when she was younger but it seem like she realized how bad he is
They need help! Psychiatric help!
This case has Joey Buttafuoco & Amy Fisher written all over it! Jersey shore 2.0! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
The audience reactions as the defendant talks makes this better lol. Jersey Pride!!!!
Theyll be back together by the weekend
Trauma loves drama. Good luck
“If you look at me you can see”……..ummmm no ma’am we can’t 😂😂
Wow, she looks like a MESS
All aboard the Hot Mess Express 😂
"If you look at me you can tell" had me rolling
After all that ,both might get back ? Two very SICK PUPPIES !
"only if it comes back to me" 🤣
BOL😂
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She'll get it back
They got back together as soon as they left the court set…🙄
I bet Gene Simmons will give Sharona back the ring.
She not even a 5/10 hahahahaha I'm dead 😂😂😂
Some serious Gene Simmons toupee vibes going on here...
"I know you're wearing black but you're not the Judge." Boom! 👏
If you need a lie detector test, you shouldn't be in that relationship. Relationships are built on trust, once that's gone the relationship is over.
As long as you’re not lying to people and yourself, how can you say it isn’t a honest living?
I agree
Plaintiff needs to have some dignity and self-respect
Plaintiff needs a haircut and stop the Ozzie Osbourne look alike gig. He' NOT Ozzie. I'm guessing he's very fond of the little blue pills...
The judge was surprised about the age Gap because they look the same age as of now😂😂😂😂😂 2:29
Judge side swiping her hair when she said she beautiful 😂 she said he abusive but she is a well and she sounds unstable
I lmao! She moved her hair back like she was trying to see if that broad was joking😂
@@neshlane1509if there's ever a situation to use the term broad to describe somebody, this is it.
She keeps screaming she was the one abused but admits how she punched on him and pulled a knife 😵💫😵💫😵💫
DELUSIONAL!
No respect to anyone that brings there child into a dispute in court. 😡 So disgusting! 😡😡
The word trash comes to mind
OMg...he IS so trashy, you're right!
lol I think she’s talking about both😅
They both definitely are 🗑️
I think she's still living in 1999😂
Look at the people laughing behind her about you saying how beautiful she is 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I rewinded it a couple of times just to look at some the ppl in the back laughing, cuz I was laughing right with them🤣
7:29 OMG the audience and Judge's reactions 😅
"I was the most beautiful girl he ever had in his life. If you look at me, you can tell." THE DELUSION.
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Looking at him, that part of her statement might be true.
I think she's a fine-looking person I'm more concerned about her emotional issues. Do you judge people by their appearance rather than their character beauty is only skin deep I wonder how cute people think you are would you like to be judged only on your appearance
If you look at me you can tell... 😂😂😂😂
If he was abusive to you, why would you want anything that reminds you of him. They're both crazy
Both crazy!
The most beautiful woman, ahhh thank you I needed a chuckle!
How dare they live their life the way they want to....good on the judge for bringing up their personal lives,how dare they!
Even if she didn't bring the ring to court she would have been given so many days to return it or she would have to pay not the full price but the depreciation price of the ring if she wanted to keep it
If money is the motivation for her, control is the motivation for him. He is such a has been loser who knows any adult female would never put up with his BS. She is no prize, but my heart does go out to her because you can tell she is not very smart and has no support system coming from a bad family. He's just a creep
That is exactly what I was thinking, but you left out the other motivation for him, sex. And if we are to believe her about his cheating, he likes to pick up lonely, vulnerable women at bars.
I don't think money is the motivator for her because I doubt if he has any...it's a daddy complex yearning for her missing daddy
@rockobill7637, the OP and your comment i agree with both, but he definitely used small gifts to control her, I mean the ring is the issue here and look how she acted about the ring, he controlled her with a ring there's no telling what else
What a strange case, she could be his daughter! They still have feelings for each other but are clearly no good for each other and I think if the opportunity presents itself they would be back together. Crazy!
You could look at me and you could tell...crickets 😂
There is something wrong with both of them
If u look at me u could tell 😂😂😂😂 um no ma'am
Drug test this mess
Which one the plaintiff or the defendant? And then what so what if somebody has a drug problem they need help what's your point
This case is so New Jersey.
She damn sure doesn't look 23 yrs younger 😂😂
These two could study together to achieve their GEDs
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Beautiful girl? Must be talking about the judge.
We need to normalize not throwing our kids out at age 18. I'm glad they are broken up and they need to keep it that way. His daughter was disappointed in the hallway.
What are you talking about? I was in an Army uniform at 17 for 21 years with my mom's signature. My oldest son in a Marine uniform at 17 with my signature. You're a LEGAL adult at 18 a grown adult. Your belong in an adult world, not in mommy and daddy's protective bubble. Only snowflakes think an adult should be at home still....lol
It starts with parenting your kids well and not just having kids because you’re pregnant. Most American parents are parents they complete accident and not through thoughtful planning.
THIS. The rest of the world doesn’t do this.
@@Goldengurl704 I noticed you couldn't handle my opinion and had it removed. Pathetic. 18 is a legal adult. Not a child who needs to live in mommy and daddy's bubble. I raised 7 to adulthood and have 20 grandchildren. All left home at 18 or before because of the military at 17 like I did. Only a snowflakes think an 18 year old is a child. The LAW most certainly sees them as adults. Soft, weak, pathetic generation.
@@TukwilaRed1974 “Most American parents have kids from accidents”?? What kind of sad place did you grow up that you actually believe this??
She's crying for the ring.
😢 this story makes me cry, so sad the pain, confusion, chaos, and bitter lack of love.
Wait so she’s the leech for wanting his money as opposed to his totally pure and genuine love for a 20 year old? Why can’t men just say both are using each other
The most New Jersey people ever
I agree which you
Bada bing! ❤
Edith Bunker vibes
Definitely not
@@rplayer360 Don’t classify all of us together 🫣🙄😂😂
She's so confused. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!!! In my eyes, I don't see anything beautiful at all !!!
Well, then, stop looking in the mirror
@@lauraanne5175 😂😂
Wow! Pretty obvious why the Plaintiff went after this gal, the light’s on, but clearly nobody’s home!! (Plus I love her “high” opinion of herself -I was a beautiful girl, you can tell just by looking at me!!) LOL!!!
Fashion choices going to court on national tv never ceases to amaze me
Why are women judged for dancing, but men are never judged for going?!?!?!
Get that money girl 😬
Gross I would never be with either one they both are nasty
What's wrong with her?
She looks the same age as he does 🤷🏽♀️
Guy wants to be an 80s rocker. Gene simmons meets steve perry😂😂😂
I don’t think the woman was all there. He’s definitely one of those men who enjoys women in vulnerable situations so he can have the upper hand and be in control. I’m sure she was dependent on him in many ways. With all the trauma she experienced, her emotional maturity was that of a child. He preys on women who will put up with his abuse because they need them.
So he thinks maybe they can try again in 10 years?? When he’s 66 and she’s 42. They’re going to run out of decades pretty soon!
"Just look at me" 😂
The audience’s face when she said she was the prettiest woman he’s been with🤣🤣🤣🤣
She probably is the best looking woman that he's ever been with look at him he's an old man if we're talking about looks
These two deserve each other 🤣. Keeping it classy. Did you see the way they looked at each other in the beginning? They both still love each other.
The most honest defendant on TPC,
And that plaintiff gave that ring right back to her after the verdict.
The judge just doesn't like the age difference even though they are grown ass adults, she made the whole case about it!
There are some cases where I wish Doug was doing the exit interview and this is definitely one of them!