I'll never understand why people are surprised by cheap modern pedals sounding as good as 40 year old circuits that have had very little changes since. Also, these same pedals come in waves on ebay for around $15, shipped from the US. It's always the same few effects with changes in the case and rarely a change to the circuit.
The problem is a lot of these Chinese knock-offs MAY have the same circuits, but the quality control and manufacturing is usually utterly terrible. Terrible and sketchy internal solder joints barely attached in the flimsiest cheapest way, trashy dime-store foot switches prone to failure, low lifespan/longevity, sloppy unsecured rickety outlets, etc. Also probably made with pure unethical slave labor. No thanks. I would rather buy something that I don't have to worry about resoldering the shoddy connections in a month or two. OR replacing the prone to failure junk foot switch. I would rather eat glass the spend my money on a lousy third-rate jerrybuilt piece of junk like some lured-in/snowed misled sucker.
Im in a group called "cheap pedal boards from hell" all this is in it and I appreciate you taking the time to show what I do. That Jeff Loomis death pedal looks great but a 10 bone pedal may hold some secrets
It used to be that you were paying $$$ for these classic pedals because you were paying for a new, exciting circuit and all the r&d that went into it. Now these (honed very basic) circuits have been floating around for 40+ years. Every pedal builder knows what’s in a tubescreamer, and the components cost pennies. Couple that with cheap Chinese labor and there’s no reason why anyone should be surprised by the price on these.
When I started making my pedalboard I bought like 5 of these pedals. Some of them were good, some were great and some were bad. It helped me to discover which effects I used the most and I have been slowly replacing them with better ones, but I have kept some that were good enough. For me it was a bit overwhelming as a beginner the amount of different effects that there were in the market, and buying a cheap version helped me to find out the tone that I wanted, and that’s really a lot
I just rig my guitar to a computer to play around with different effects I might buy a pedal when I find something interesting enough to carry around with me But for sound processing the computer route offers a lot of options
@@RobotronSage I agree, digital modelling is a great way to find your own tone. It is cheap and you can have every sound that you want. The problem that I had with it is that I had so many options that I spent a lot of time just trying weird effects, but that can be also inspiring for playing music out of your comfort zone
I paid $16 each for 2 of these off Amazon 3 years ago. Same case, marked Saphue. American Dream and American Crunch. Both sound great. One has mislabeled gain and volume knobs. Ive seen them with 3 or 4 different names on the same pedal. Also Asmuze and Kmise.
i think making a video on cheap pedals is a great idea, most of us arent really interested in paying 350 dollars for a boutique pedal if there are much better alternatives
Man, I use the berhinger vintage delay and reverb for my work setup (I work as a guitar tech) and I have good fun with them. I hear the circuit is the same as boss pedals but housed in plastic. Some cheap pedals are sick!
I have a few of their pedals they are a great deal... They always come back in stock... Also for the money the Donner Arena 2000 Multi Effects Pedal can't be beat. Cab Sims Mic Sims Amp Sims Pedal Sims mini recording studio Drum beats. Blue tooth so a tablet phone on a mic stand can control it can be pre set for gig sets. Alie Express My wife & I each purchased 1 each 2 together $188 Delivered each... Cheaper by $100 each than Amazon... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎼🎵🎶🎶🎶
I have some of these. They go as kmise sometimes or just with no label. I have the "Ultimate Drive" and "Classic chorus" and "Tremolo". Can't really complain, they work like expected. All metal, compact. Ultimate Drive is far from my favourite drive, I dislike the way it EQs the sound, but it is completely usable. 10 EUR means there's a nice discount, usually they cost more.
I've been experimenting with "cheap" pedals for a while and with mostly good results. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Rowin Metal ( LTL-03 ) pedal ( about $30 US on Amazon ). I have one and it has been my go to Boost/OD/Distortion pedal since I got it. Also, love the Park cab in the background!
@@gupster24 To be honest, I haven't used the headphone or second output. I just kinda plugged it in and started playing, I didn't really explore all the functions ( the extra jacks ). In my opinion, it's worth the price. It also plays well with other pedals.
It's a few op amps, transistors, capacitors and resistors on a printed circuit board. Of course it sounds the same. It's all in the design. For gigging musicians, might be worth buying something with better build quality, but not for the bedroom.
I remember using these through my Blackstar back in high school. Certainly cool to have for the time but looking at them now I am grateful that I can afford good pedals
The pedals are generic and they’re sold on wish, aliexpress, temu, etc. but they really are quite good! I have the red chorus pedal and it adds a bit of a volume boost when you turn it on, and when activated sometimes creates a pop as it turns on depending on your power source. But the effect sounds great. It’s clearly trying to copy a boss ce-2 though so of course it’s a good sound. The sweep of the knobs is super versatile.
@@sixstringtv1 I have really good Monitor-speakers and your recording is good... I am going to stay with my opinion... depends on the mix at the end... but it's something more for yelling Glenn to discuss ..
I just bought it recently, mainly as a prop for this video's intro but also for a secondary pedalboard setup because I didn't wanna spring for another Boss NS-2. It's definitely not quite the same as the NS-2 but I'm honestly happy with it 🤷🏻♂️
What's the best 4 cable noisegate for metal...? And i don't mean djent...😅 I have the sentry but it color's the sound a bit digital, so i think about the noise reaper from stonedeaf, the Boss ns2 or the new fortin zuul... Your'e thought's...?
You say the chinese phaser sounded like a blanket was draped over it, and the original didn't. But from my ears, I hear the opposite. The old one sounds like a blanket is draped over it, and the chinese one sounds clearer and crisp. It was as dramatic to me as listening to AM vs FM radio.
COmmenting before watching: Yes, yes they absolutely can. And are. Some are fantastic. Some are the exact same besides the case as some others up to $100.
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@@sixstringtv1 brother I'm from southern California and fuck! I live on the other side of the states now because of the high cost of California living. Yep and our country throws away so much food and it's totally uncalled for not to mention there's over 60 thousand homeless in the United States 😒
the signal on the playing examples is constantly fading in and out, I think thats the "very good" behringer noise gate 😂the noisegate is acutally one of the few pedals where quality matters a lot, do yourself a favor and get a good one right away like the fortin zuul or isp decimator
These are probably just rebranded oem budget pedals that have been around a while and since even the budget manufacturers have upgraded their products. im guessing these are old stock that no one wants anymore. Also this technology is getting close to a 100 yrs old. Theres no reason for it to not be cheap.
@@sixstringtv1 Yeah but that sub was only worth 4$ Rule of 3x in all sales. If something in a store costs 6$ its actually only worth 2$ In the world of manufacturing that pedal only cost 2-3$ to make. Plus if they dont sell them at all its just a total loss.
just the content i was looking for, another shill post with chinese basura. when my man is out of edgelord music takes for clickbait he sells out his audience. great job bro!!!
That bruise on your knee, from when you tripped? That's gravity!
Repeal the law of gravity and everything floats away
Elitist players be disliking this video like there's no tomorrow... Thanks for your upload, Kaylen!
I'll never understand why people are surprised by cheap modern pedals sounding as good as 40 year old circuits that have had very little changes since. Also, these same pedals come in waves on ebay for around $15, shipped from the US. It's always the same few effects with changes in the case and rarely a change to the circuit.
Yeah I don't understand it either
The problem is a lot of these Chinese knock-offs MAY have the same circuits, but the quality control and manufacturing is usually utterly terrible. Terrible and sketchy internal solder joints barely attached in the flimsiest cheapest way, trashy dime-store foot switches prone to failure, low lifespan/longevity, sloppy unsecured rickety outlets, etc. Also probably made with pure unethical slave labor. No thanks. I would rather buy something that I don't have to worry about resoldering the shoddy connections in a month or two. OR replacing the prone to failure junk foot switch. I would rather eat glass the spend my money on a lousy third-rate jerrybuilt piece of junk like some lured-in/snowed misled sucker.
If I had a dollar for every metal guitar player who uses a Behringer Noise Gate Id have enough dollars to buy a better one.
I daily drive a Boss NS-2, mainly wanted to see how this one compares hahah
Im in a group called "cheap pedal boards from hell" all this is in it and I appreciate you taking the time to show what I do. That Jeff Loomis death pedal looks great but a 10 bone pedal may hold some secrets
Hey if it sounds good, it is good. Clearly price dose not have as much affect on quality these days, as years past. Very nice.
You got that right, I paid $200 for a Revv G4 and it might be the cheapest sounding distortion pedal I ever heard in my 30+ years playing guitar.
It used to be that you were paying $$$ for these classic pedals because you were paying for a new, exciting circuit and all the r&d that went into it. Now these (honed very basic) circuits have been floating around for 40+ years. Every pedal builder knows what’s in a tubescreamer, and the components cost pennies. Couple that with cheap Chinese labor and there’s no reason why anyone should be surprised by the price on these.
Those Revv pedals are the worst. Horrendous.
When I started making my pedalboard I bought like 5 of these pedals. Some of them were good, some were great and some were bad. It helped me to discover which effects I used the most and I have been slowly replacing them with better ones, but I have kept some that were good enough. For me it was a bit overwhelming as a beginner the amount of different effects that there were in the market, and buying a cheap version helped me to find out the tone that I wanted, and that’s really a lot
I just rig my guitar to a computer to play around with different effects
I might buy a pedal when I find something interesting enough to carry around with me
But for sound processing the computer route offers a lot of options
You could make your own pedalboard with an arduino i guess
@@RobotronSage I agree, digital modelling is a great way to find your own tone. It is cheap and you can have every sound that you want. The problem that I had with it is that I had so many options that I spent a lot of time just trying weird effects, but that can be also inspiring for playing music out of your comfort zone
I paid $16 each for 2 of these off Amazon 3 years ago. Same case, marked Saphue. American Dream and American Crunch. Both sound great. One has mislabeled gain and volume knobs. Ive seen them with 3 or 4 different names on the same pedal. Also Asmuze and Kmise.
Istg I thought the thumbnail was you holding the pedal with your foot. I almost had a heart attack
i think making a video on cheap pedals is a great idea, most of us arent really interested in paying 350 dollars for a boutique pedal if there are much better alternatives
I would love to see a wah from funny rock store
Man, I use the berhinger vintage delay and reverb for my work setup (I work as a guitar tech) and I have good fun with them. I hear the circuit is the same as boss pedals but housed in plastic. Some cheap pedals are sick!
yes I love the super fuzz
@@Apersonguitar The SF300 is so good on bass.
I have a few of their pedals they are a great deal... They always come back in stock... Also for the money the Donner Arena 2000 Multi Effects Pedal can't be beat. Cab Sims Mic Sims Amp Sims Pedal Sims mini recording studio Drum beats. Blue tooth so a tablet phone on a mic stand can control it can be pre set for gig sets. Alie Express My wife & I each purchased 1 each 2 together $188 Delivered each... Cheaper by $100 each than Amazon... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎼🎵🎶🎶🎶
Would love to see a drop tune pedal or a harmonizer
Donner makes one for 40 bucks and hotone has one for 50
These are surpirisingly nice sounding for the price. Im always skeptical about aliexpress items so I appreciate you taking the time to do this.
4:42 When you whip out Malmsteen, I can no longer be objective. Rip, my brother. Rip.
MXR had the colour matching, but Boss reversed that, my second and third pedals were the oranges DS1, and a green Phaser
the rowin clean boost with top boost - the yellow one . there is not a decent demo of this on the internet , yes there is demos of it , but ...
I have some of these. They go as kmise sometimes or just with no label. I have the "Ultimate Drive" and "Classic chorus" and "Tremolo". Can't really complain, they work like expected. All metal, compact. Ultimate Drive is far from my favourite drive, I dislike the way it EQs the sound, but it is completely usable.
10 EUR means there's a nice discount, usually they cost more.
I've been experimenting with "cheap" pedals for a while and with mostly good results. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Rowin Metal ( LTL-03 ) pedal ( about $30 US on Amazon ). I have one and it has been my go to Boost/OD/Distortion pedal since I got it. Also, love the Park cab in the background!
Is the LTL-03 stereo? It has 2 outputs but ive never seen anybody use the 2nd one before, also what does the headphone jack do?
@@gupster24 To be honest, I haven't used the headphone or second output. I just kinda plugged it in and started playing, I didn't really explore all the functions ( the extra jacks ). In my opinion, it's worth the price. It also plays well with other pedals.
It's a few op amps, transistors, capacitors and resistors on a printed circuit board. Of course it sounds the same. It's all in the design. For gigging musicians, might be worth buying something with better build quality, but not for the bedroom.
Honestly? I don't see this breaking even under constant usage. It's a solid metal construction. Behringers on the other hand...
3:21 that neon sign wire on the wall is so itchy to the eyes 🙈
I remember using these through my Blackstar back in high school. Certainly cool to have for the time but looking at them now I am grateful that I can afford good pedals
Would like to see the chorus, tremolo and delay pedals!
Can't think of anything else then: Gravity!
I'd love to hear a cheap chorus pedal or wah!
Blue guitars were used, I was instantly a fan of whatever was played through them. There is Tone in that color 😂 ❤
The pedals are generic and they’re sold on wish, aliexpress, temu, etc. but they really are quite good! I have the red chorus pedal and it adds a bit of a volume boost when you turn it on, and when activated sometimes creates a pop as it turns on depending on your power source. But the effect sounds great. It’s clearly trying to copy a boss ce-2 though so of course it’s a good sound. The sweep of the knobs is super versatile.
I have that one also. As I plan on being a bedroom guitarist forever it completely fills my needs.
@@KnuckleheadStuey It was on my board for my last show! Serves me well, only upgrading if it craps out.
the eq of the cheap phaser sounds a little different... i like it more...but it depends on the sound or song
It's definitely a weaker effect too hahah
@@sixstringtv1 I have really good Monitor-speakers and your recording is good... I am going to stay with my opinion... depends on the mix at the end... but it's something more for yelling Glenn to discuss ..
I bought the world's cheapest condoms. Guess what happened next!
The behringer noise reducer is quite useless for high gain distortion in my setup... It doesn't gate all the noise...
I just bought it recently, mainly as a prop for this video's intro but also for a secondary pedalboard setup because I didn't wanna spring for another Boss NS-2.
It's definitely not quite the same as the NS-2 but I'm honestly happy with it 🤷🏻♂️
What's the best 4 cable noisegate for metal...? And i don't mean djent...😅 I have the sentry but it color's the sound a bit digital, so i think about the noise reaper from stonedeaf, the Boss ns2 or the new fortin zuul...
Your'e thought's...?
NS-2 is crazy good. I'm not a Boss pedal guy, but that's my exception.
You say the chinese phaser sounded like a blanket was draped over it, and the original didn't. But from my ears, I hear the opposite. The old one sounds like a blanket is draped over it, and the chinese one sounds clearer and crisp. It was as dramatic to me as listening to AM vs FM radio.
I heard Very-Nja has a pedal tuner...
Free gifts!!! That’s my favorite flavor!
Funny enough, for 5 bucks I can go to my local sprouts and get some vegetarian curry over rice with a sugar cane soda...Shit slaps
COmmenting before watching: Yes, yes they absolutely can. And are. Some are fantastic. Some are the exact same besides the case as some others up to $100.
3:04 THAT'S how you get subscribers! lol
Wierd... For me the original mxr phase 90 sounded muffled, the cheap one was much more open sounding...🤔 6:30...
Maybe my hearing is just different...
I take it that the vintage overdrive for 10 euros is a beast then
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As of right now ali Express has saphue pedals for $8.77 US
Wonder if the cheap phaser is even a 90?
May be a 45 man.
I got a tube screamer clone on temu on sale for $1. Not joking
The price became 25😭
Tbh I liked the Ali phaser more than the mxr
Its a phaser 45, its alot more subtle than the 90
I guess with Ibanez and MXR we're paying for 40 yrs of reliability. But, if you're a new player and may not last 40 days ...
I actually have a krimse tremolo........
And thats the biggest thing i can say
Watched Your Video, found it very interesting, watched another Video after yours, bought a Pedal from Spain for 150€ 😂🤦♂️🤣🤘
GIVE ME THAT PHASER!!! LMFAO!
BHORUNGIR pedal
You are not wrong there about getting any food here in the states 😂. It has became a mission to maintain my overweight status.
Whenever I'm in Anaheim for NAMM the biggest expense is decent food 😂
@@sixstringtv1 brother I'm from southern California and fuck! I live on the other side of the states now because of the high cost of California living. Yep and our country throws away so much food and it's totally uncalled for not to mention there's over 60 thousand homeless in the United States 😒
I KNEW THERE WOULD BE MORE RANDOM SHIT ALIEXPRESS VIDS
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Joyo vintage overdrive is $30 all day. Its n 808 clone
I got mine for $3.
the signal on the playing examples is constantly fading in and out, I think thats the "very good" behringer noise gate 😂the noisegate is acutally one of the few pedals where quality matters a lot, do yourself a favor and get a good one right away like the fortin zuul or isp decimator
These are probably just rebranded oem budget pedals that have been around a while and since even the budget manufacturers have upgraded their products. im guessing these are old stock that no one wants anymore. Also this technology is getting close to a 100 yrs old. Theres no reason for it to not be cheap.
10 bucks though?? I paid $12 for a footlong sub in California
@@sixstringtv1 Yeah but that sub was only worth 4$ Rule of 3x in all sales. If something in a store costs 6$ its actually only worth 2$ In the world of manufacturing that pedal only cost 2-3$ to make. Plus if they dont sell them at all its just a total loss.
He-man Woman Hater 😊
just the content i was looking for, another shill post with chinese basura. when my man is out of edgelord music takes for clickbait he sells out his audience. great job bro!!!
Lol, did the truth Hurt you?
Yeah I'm definitely sponsored by the "Funny Rock Store" on AliExpress