both of the ENTJs I know are incredibly conscious of their tendency to dominate and shut down others opinions and make a great effort to be more gentle. they hold a special place in my heart.
I'm an INTJ and I must say you have a phenomenal interpretation of all the types - I've been coming back to your videos for the last 5-6 years and am amazed by the depth of information every time I watch them... :)
You described inferior Fi perfectly. As long as I have to make choices logically, it is extremely easy find out what works best. However, when it comes to something like choosing a major to study, I suddenly have to ask myself "What do I want to do?". This threw me off and caused me to take a year off to think it through.
Scorponizer this is sooo true. I can create a comprehensive strategy as long as I understand the objectives in no time...however I'm constantly beating myself up because I need someone to help me break down my personal goals into logical steps. I can't see myself from outside myself in order to create a strategy for myself. It's so frustrating.
True for me as well. I know exactly what I need to do to explore alternatives of study by combining interests or looking at ones related to my skills, but I'm uncharacteristically paralyzed when I reach the point where I have to decide, because one option is not more logical than the other.
This was a good explanation, but I always wonder why we are always described like this unfeeling machines, cold-hearted, treacherous, murderous? I mean yes, we are bossy, yes we seek power and to be in command mostly because we can't bear to see something that could run smoothly, cough his way through the world like a dying car... yes we are aggressive. But honestly... in real life we are the most random, loud, expressive and mutating people ever. we care deeply for the people we can say we like or love or are our friends, we hate hypocrisy... so mostly we don't lie although we do omit and edit heavily. but we are very not black and white, but orange or purple. you have more chances of pointing out the ENTJ in the room by seeking the loud person, jumping up and down, screaming about the randomest thing... at the same time they try to direct the way the cake will be served and the most efficient way to serve everyone the exact same amount of cake. And for example Sherlock is an INTJ, Loki however is an ENTJ.
+candycottonwithapple You've got an excellent point there. I tried to address those stereotypes in my Revisiting the INTJ video: you can take a look and see what you think: th-cam.com/video/km7ga7HON20/w-d-xo.html&lc=z12ytfqixvbzgl3b404cjbsxclu1xfg4t1c
wow.... this is an accurate description of who i am 😂 our thoughts have caused us to be jumpy and whatnot, energetic. i was surprised when they perceive us as cruel over jumpy and excited but wants to get things done 😂
The compulsion of ExTJs to gain control over their environments might be stemming from a fear of getting hurt and controlled by the elements in their environment.
Hello there yeghor, I think that you have hit the nail on the head with your observation here. Look at the ENTJ equivalent in the Rheti-Enneagram personality test system and it's analysis and you will see the motivating factors are for the various personalities.
SpyMonkey3D The INTJ. Though, he was the one who made the game, and the game never officially ended due to various issues, but he did essentially take over the economy near the end and it was clear his victory was inevitable.
Michael Pierce ENTJ here. It figures that he would win a game that he designed. In my experience with INTJ's, they are brilliant strategists and dangerously, insanely amoral. If you foolishly agree to play on their terms, rather than changing the game, you will lose. Fortunately, in the real world most people can see the insanity if they can talk to one for a few minutes, so his plans for world domination could only happen if he could remain unseen throughout the process. If he went before the public, no one would follow him.
SpyMonkey3D thank you so much for asking this, I was honestly distracted for the rest of the video thinking "how can you just reel me in describing a game and two different strategies, but not the payoff?" on an ENTJ video no less.
I got mistyped as an ENTJ, and I am not brutal in combat, I don't care for leadership, and I don't care about being the winner at all. I am much more live and let live, diplomatic and am willing to capitulate for the sake of respecting individuals. Therefore I believe I'm an ENFP, because I do occassionally use my tertiary Te for a desire for efficiency and getting to the point, but my auxiliary Fi is stronger and focuses on sensitivities and desires of my own and other peoples hearts.
oh, Micheal i was going to say, i think everyone would like it if you made the videos a little longer to explain the types more as PEOPLE and not just the type itself; for an instance, my younger bro is definitely an entj and he has those brutal, driven, and strategical qualities. but often he is lots of fun, often joking, has a great sense of humor and really good with words. so i think perhaps if its not too time consuming you could delve more into the types as they are applied to people and talk a little about their behavior in everyday life and not only their highlighted qualities. I'm sure that would be great for INTJs and ENTJs as it would make them much less intimidating^^ Thanks man, and I've been trying to get my peers who know Myers Briggs to check out your channel and get u some more subscribers, you make the Myers Briggs community proud :) keep it up!
Matuvo Namiikaze Michael Pierce I second this idea. Most type portraits online are theory only (and much more one-note than yours at that, I'm not fond of celebritytypes' portraits at all for example), few show actual people, real or fictional, who exhibit the thought patterns.
Very good account of the ENTJ. Overall, this is a very accurate description of myself. Listening to it the way you describe will probably make some people afraid of us though. Lol. Oh well. Anyway, I just wanted to say that you've done a great job with these cognitive/personality theory videos.
Thank you! You're not the first one to say I've made the ENTJ seem rather intimidating....that wasn't my intention, because the ENTJs I've known aren't intimidating or mean or brutal at all in the conventional sense, but I couldn't think of any other way to describe the mindset. But I'm glad you have enjoyed them!
I think those words could work well. I prefer brutal and demolish though because they imply a lot of nuances that I've seen in the ENTJ. I didn't intend for my description to make ENTJ's seem like ruthless monsters. That's not what they are at all. But they also have a brutal, demolishing mentality; that doesn't mean they think that way about people or are all psychopaths at all. But I dunno...
Yeah, I like the words too. They imply a steadfast determination to see this problem go away, period. You think given their desire to be in charge ENTJs would be suitable for tasks that need one man to do? ie. here's a problem that needs to be solved, you're free to do as you wish, go for it type thing?
Definitely. That's what I would think anyway, or that's what I've seen before. But I don't think they're loners or anything, they just like to have appropriate control of things and have something to strive towards.
Fi makes sense because after ensuring I built my life around what I wanted, I sometimes face a void of complete loss regarding that matter. Like a pitfall of freedom where I can’t be afraid to choose incorrectly
Thanks for the info. I appreciate your kind reply regarding these two questions: 1. How ENTJ personality can overlap with ENTP?and what quality of ENTP would make it more creative and invertor type? 2. How about ENTJ relationship and best personlity that may fit with it? for example, ISFJ relationship with ENTJ ?
I found this explanation very insightful, clear, and detailed. As many times as I've read all the literature, this was the first time I really understood my need to 'subjugate' my environment so that I'm not put in an uncomfortable position. I also especially appreciated Michael's clear differentiation of strong traits not being 'bad' ones. I'm an ENTJ with a developed F side, because I'm a teacher, and I need that aspect to do my job to my satisfaction; it definitely did not come naturally to me, and my religion helped a lot with that, too. My INTJ step-sister likes to rag me that I'm all feely--we consider that an insult! :-) Oh, and I loved your music!
i honestly just don't understand how others don't think that basing laws and actions on something as subjective as feelings is a great way to push towards the future. if the facts say this, it's simple to deduce that we should move in this direction. what's so hard to think about
I just fight with my brother, i want to get house job done, and he just blocking me, i tell him to move, he snap at me, he just work 12 hour, and i just got back from 8 hours trip to another city for another family matter, so i raised my voice, screaming to him immediately, to crush his resistance, i said something hurtfull so he will angry and go away, he did. And after that, i finished my work, so everyone can be more comfortable around the house after i cleaning it well, and i fill satisfied by it, also in the same time, i feel litle bit guilty after shouting to him, but once again, i need to finished it. And watching this video, making me feel like i am not the only one, there's some people like me out there, ruthless jerk who actually care to other, but don't hesitate to use very rude way to showing it, because deep down, i know they will understand someday, in the right moment when they need it.
So, so, so true about arguments at 8:13. I had a student argue with me today, when I called him out on some poor behavior, and he tried to continue his excuses until I broke down his points, when he finally called out, "ok, ok...you win...I'm done." He was clearly feeling the effects of my "completely breaking down the plausibility of his view." I also think that we do take a very strong offensive; I've been noticing that more lately, that I am coming across very strongly. As a teacher, I have to use more of my inferior feeling function than many ENTJs, because the students need me to so they can feel comfortable in my class, but woe to him to tries to oppose the way I run my classroom!
ENTJs want things now, ofc they can plan things and usually do, but efficiency is not necessarily the central oart of it, it is the tool to get things as soon as possible, type A personalities
1. I don't think Peter Thiel is an ENTJ - more like an INTJ. 2. This was singularly the best material on ENTJs thus far that I've uncovered. I am an ENTJ and the point you made about the desire for a vague sense of justice is really accurate - I haven't heard any other source elaborate on this. Furthermore, I did have a crisis because I didn't really know what I wanted.
James Farragher Well, unfortunately its not commercialized -- my friend came up with the rules. A lot of people have asked for them, but I haven't yet gotten them together in any clear format. The best I have is a sort of summary posted in the description of my Update Fe vs. Fi video. I mean, the rules were kind of rough as it was, because we all knew each other and it was a social event for us, but I'm working on it.
When the environment takes over, entjs can break down and turn into withdrawn, dysfunctional people when alone. But still maintain personality and expression in front of others
My girlfriend is an ENTJ, I'm an INTP, sometimes I just want her to go away, cannot have an intellectual conversation with her, interrupts me every two seconds and concentrates more on if I rarely used the wrong terminology to describe something or a situation, but does not concentrate on the "message", it gets very annoying sometimes and makes me question her intelligence.
I'm an ENTJ female and honestly, it's really easy for us to overpower someone "weak". We are incredibly smart, but I also find myself just rambling about different topics so much that I don't even realize half the things I'm saying and I miss the point. Especially if I'm arguing, I throw in random bits of information and hope it makes sense and confuses them lol! The thing with ENTJ is that we're always trying to be dominant and look like this great leader or a "God", so we usually target the much quieter, easily-influenced people and impress them with our brilliance and power. When we're dealing with someone who matches our "power and status", that's when we REALLY get down to business and talk/act in a professional way. Nonetheless, we will try to overpower anybody in any way possible. It's sooo bad lol!
Hello there Michael, it sounds like my type here (and by induction me) can be a right nightmare to other people. Maybe you should have a look at my IPIP_NEO OCEAN personality test scores? Then again, thikning about it maybe you shouldn't since when I did the test my modesty and sympathy scores were 0. That meant that 100% of the other people who did that particular test were mode modest and sympathic than I was. Also this was just the start of it... lets just say that the vast majority of people who did the test were far less critical and more agreeable than I was. However, I did the test in one of the darkest periods of my life, maybe I would be more agreeable nowadays?
Not all people who jump from the angel falls will break their neck, saying so is like trying to make Te conclusion look absolute like a Ti conclusion, which doesn't really happen since Ti is absolute logic while Te is dynamic logic, so a Te user after having all that data will more likely say or think, If so many people has broken their neck jumping from the angel falls, if I jump from the angel falls I will more likely break my neck, but the Te user too, by default would seek for contradictory information to the former information presented, to balance things out and look at what is more likely to happen, in a rational way, Te users look for as many sources as they can to gather information, which makes them less likely to fall in echo chambers like Ti users do, since Ti users can be lazy in changing their absolute logic and preffer to stay in their understanding which a lot of times is not proven by the object, like the Te judgement, Ti judgement is created by the subject.
+Eddycurrents I plan to revisit all of the types, it'll just take me a little while. However, that little model is very pattern oriented...so honestly it would end up being just slightly different than the INTJ one, with the pattern being ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, ISFP, ESTJ, ISTJ, ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ, ESTP, ISTP, ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP. There's been a fair amount of argument about that lineup, which is why I emphasize that its very function based and mathematical, and is meant to show the theoretical "familiarity" of different types with each other's way of thinking, and not how well they may actually get along as people.
About the whole difficulty in explaining what they do “it” for, whatever it may be, is it possible that several glimpses of reasons they do it for come to light over time and make it difficult to boil them all down into one reason other than “for truth” or what have you? I find this is what happens here. The worst interview question or personal statement point is always “your reasons for wanting to be part of this company” or “reasons for seeking to undertake this program.” I get too tactical or too all-encompassing with it 🤦🏽♀️
@@alib4486 well INFJs get along with many types and if we want to talk about NTJs, the INFJ prefers the INTJ over the ENTJ. INTJs are wiser, calmer, smarter and more human.
Ah. I think there is that underlying theme to us. This part of us that is so dark and cold. But I think also any mature entj has some compassion and will use their Fi to some varying degree. This video is very one-dimensional imo. Personally I'm not a bad guy and i care about others (in the moment though, out of sight out, of mind for sure)
I don't think this video was completely stereotypical at all. He clearly explained, each time he used a 'negative' description, that is was not actually a negative thing. Most don't do that, in my experience.
Question for you Michael Pierce, just as a thought experiment i'm attempting to type some well known characters in movies and I stumbled upon the typing of Emperor Palpatine from the StarWars universe as typically INTJ. He seemed to strive for power above all else so I'm wondering what your take is on him; INTJ or ENTJ?
Michael-Anthony Clement Well, fictional characters are incredibly tricky, as I'm sure you know, and in my own thought experiments of typing them, I have found that, despite myself, I end up relying on set portraits of each type that I compare each character to -- basically stereotypes that I've personally made up. Which is not how one should ever go about typing real people, and which I have sought to eliminate in the official fictional typings on my blog. But in any case, with all of that said, its my current opinion that Palpatine is more of an ENTJ than an INTJ, primarily because of his much more active striving for power. But that's just me.
The Psychopaths and narcissists false self doesn’t have a personality type! Narcissists choose ENTJ to mirror because we’re most like the sheep of the personality types and the wolves use our type to hide their entitlements behind their fake imitation of our meekness.
Say, what do you think it would be like if an ENTJ and ENTP were to enter into a debate? Seeing as they do it for extremely different purposes, would they just leave seeing it as a waste of time?
Kieran Kitchener Well, I think a lot of other factors would come into play in every argument. But the prevailing problem, when a problem comes up, I would suspect would be that the ENTJ is more interested in establishing what the most correct, rational answer is, and laying that down without a doubt or else defending their own position with the intent of winning. The ENTP however, is more interested in excavating a beautiful idea or system within the mind. For instance, I imagine Socrates (ENTP) debating Aristotle (ENTJ): Socrates often walk up to someone, get into a conversation, the conversation turns to philosophy, the person explains their position, and Socrates begins asking questions to determine all the different aspects of their position, to further excavate it and see if it makes sense from all angles as an idea, and more often than not they leave enlightened, but much farther from certainty than when they started. The ENTJ, generally, would dislike this, because what's the point of pummeling this idea if you're not going to get around to determining what the most rational answer is? When I read Aristotle he is always working towards a goal, and never leaves open ends. He wants a conclusion, and is always happy to *not* bother to investigate something for now if it doesn't serve to reach the conclusion he's after. Socrates however, goes all over the place, because its the investigation and not the conclusion he's after. So, should they argue, I think Socrates might grant Aristotle food for thought, but ultimately Aristotle will continually try to shut off and make certain conclusions about Socrates' lines of inquiry, which Socrates will continually try to open up, causing Aristotle to grow more aggressive in shutting Socrates himself down. That's just some musings on my part.
I'm an Entp and one of my closest friends is an entj. We spend like 80% of our time debating about politics, music, feminism, and even mbti (he thinks he's an entp). I noticed when we argue he tends to care more about trying to prove himself right whereas I just want to prove him wrong not caring if I'm right.
+ToStand in a nutshell, ENTJ: first we do, then we adjust. INTJ: ill start as soon as plan A, B, C, and D are ready. Of course there is MUCH more, but this is the main thing
ToStand emphasis on the "in a nutshell" and the " Of course there is MUCH more, but this is the main thing". i know its more complicated. apart form that, you are welcome
9727diego yes but what i meant is that what you said is not really true since it's a short generalization ; i mean, someone who would like to know whether he's intj or entj couldn't do it based on what you said ; entjs can plan and intjs can act sporadically, it's more complicated and intricated then that (especially ENTJ 5s and INTJ 8s, which are often mixed up)
ToStand Well... yes, it is indeed a generalization, i wrote the comment emphasizing it is, and there for should be taken as one. Now, if someone come to a random comment on a random video of TH-cam to see whats the difference between an INTJ, and a ENTJ, and settles for a short 21 word answer that has 2 acclamations of it being a generalization...... Its not my problem. to sum up. I know you disliked the description i gave, or at leas disagree with it due to it being to simple, but i wasnt, and i doubt anyone was gonna go on a full description of whats the 10000 differences between a INJT and a ENTJ, because probably no one is willing to dedicate so much time to a youtube comment,so instead i did what most people would have doesnt and gave you a short and generalized response. PS: sorry for the long text, here is a cute cat gif as a reward for reading the whole comment: 38.media.tumblr.com/d186e6fe2fa1c39a0ba3d7b5980fd598/tumblr_ml1d4eUJFj1s7itpyo1_400.gif
The Wildling ENFJ is also a good guess, although I think he is a NT... compare him with James Lipton (ENFJ) who speaks in a very emotional manner. Clooney is charming but I don't see the warmth. thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/2014/04/29/clooneys-mum-confirms-engagement/ "On an intellectual level, they are equals. That is very important to him." Amal Alamuddin is a "brilliant" lawyer, perhaps INTJ (?). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney "I believe [Donald Rumsfeld] thinks this is a war that can be won, but there is no such thing anymore. We can't beat anyone anymore." That's a 'P' talking...
Overall, I like the description, but I think you confuse some values of judgement. Let me explain you. It´s true that ENTJs can be tactless with the feelings of others, but sadism, for instance, it´s related more to the soul of the person. You can have an ENFJ, which uses extroverted feeling (a very sensitive function with the others), that is a psychopath and extremely sadistic. Histrionic, psychopathic, narcisistc, sadistic traits, are intrinsically related to the soul of the person and that it´s independent from their psychological type.
Just one clarification. I saw in Celebretytypes that they show a correlation between personality disorders and personality types. So it may be true that ENTJ may have a higher tendency than other types towards sadistic behavior. Now, it's also interesting the fact that they highly correlate ENFJ (probably the most sensitive type towards the needs of others) with the narcissistic personality, so this validates my point, in the sense that it's not a specific cognitive function--in any case it would be the combination of the four an not just one cognitive function- the main cause for amoral behavior but the person's soul.
Why does the MBTI pair INTPs with spooky ENTJs as the ideal match? ENTJs are like nukes with a face and INTPs are like tiny intelligent fuzzy bunnies in the prairie.
They both highly value knowledge and aptitude, both are inclined to ignore emotions in favor of logical arguments and both have high standards for almost everything. About the... ENTJs are like nukes with a face (going to laugh for a few days)
It's like the visual of a mouse scaring an elephant. ENTJs respect intelligence and hard logic and INTPs are masters of hard logic. ENTJs aren't going to judge you for your quirks or eccentricities because they are themselves, eccentric, in a sense. They'll judge you for what you have in your brain, and INTPs (generally) have amazing brains.
+Loren Aguilar because Te and Ti supposedly compliment each other. INTPs are more ideal than the ISTPs because Ns prefer Ns, Ss prefer Ss. i haven't found this to be the case - i'm perfectly capable of engaging ISTPs in complex intellectual conversations as i can with INTPs, but INTPs come across as more weird and lazy whereas ISTPs will actually apply what we discuss.
SCARY MOTHER EFFERS. MY DADS AN ENTJ, IVE HAD AN AWFUL LIFE BC OF IT. MAY I FIND PEACE AND MERCY IN THE WORLD. GOD BLESS ME. LOL but really. infp and entj dad = bad news bears :(
@@theloniusmonk1263 Not even American ENTJs are like that lol. They are NTs for God's sake. They aren't brutes. It's stupid stereotypes. Brutes are more SPs. People don't even analyze other when typing other people. They either use the letters or misinformed knowledge of cognitive functions. Actually I think it's worse, they use simple description of types, thus creating the notion that ExTJs are yelling idiots who only want to be boss for social approval.
@@raihankameel320 Hence why I said "portrayed as'' Most American ENTJs are in fact not ENTJs at all, but mistyped ESTJs and ESTPs because MBTI as a system doesn't work.
@@theloniusmonk1263 Agree with that. There's an ENTJ youtuber but once he took Socionics apparently he's ESTP in that system. I know it's a different system but real ENTJ I know are typed as ENTJ as well both in MBTI & Socionics. Also they have scientific mind (NT) not simple brute like stupid stereotypes say.
+Elf Machine I was about to say the same thing to you.He was a hard core introvert.Steve Ballmer tried to get him into a social club at Harvard,but Bill got burned out.He's most likely an INTP.
Well,let's make a short analysis. He's a NT for sure. He's introverted. He might be a J though..But he doesn't act like Elon Musk who is a typical INTJ.
Nicolae Spataru No of-course not. No type is the same geez -_-. Elon Musk definitely doesn't act like Nikola Tesla,who is also a typical INTJ. No one is 100% Introvert Or Extrovert. Even jung said, if that is the case. You belong in a mad house. You have percentages of 55% to 90% varying. I think that also dictates a lot about Behaviors. Also the first letter codes, are more about behaviors. Whats more important is the cognitive functions. You are also taking some things too black and white. For example ENTJs are known, to be the most Introverted-Extroverts. And INFJs the most Extroverted introverts. They even have the nickname. Social Introverts. And like the video explained. You have 2 types of ENTJs the more Extroverted one. And the more Introverted one,who likes to work from the background. I think Bill Gates Fits the second type better. ''Gates was very prov-active, he would sometimes say things like; That's the most stupid idea ever'' If you wanted to convince,you had to convince me. (out of the documentary) He also likes to debate,very Te. Aside from how a person behaves. Gates,Nikola Tesla,Elon Musk. And all other INTJs still follow the same patterns. When achieving their goal. Same with INTP. Also there is the Difference between , INTJ-A and INTJ-T. Also a lot of websites whith people who actually study this field. Typed him as ENTJ. I think they know better than us. I think your missing out a lot important factors,and i think you are not really as versed in the theory as you think. It might sound harsh,but that's what i'm observing.
Elf Machine I was not trying to say that every INTJ is the same,but we can see patterns in their behaviour.Check out "Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire", a book recommended by Charlie Munger,one of his friends.Most people,in general,are horrible at reading people, so just because a website says something,it doesn't mean it's true.To say that he's an extrovert is just against the facts.
The hilariousness is that intjs and intps also claimed Bill Gates is being there personality type so there is 3 rational types that claim he belongs in their camp.
@@LarsGuerra I wasn't doubting or saying that wasn't true. that he is full of TI. I just meant there were so many sources claiming Bill Gates as their type. And you don't need to validate your statement by giving me a link. I was not in doubt.
both of the ENTJs I know are incredibly conscious of their tendency to dominate and shut down others opinions and make a great effort to be more gentle. they hold a special place in my heart.
I'm an INTJ and I must say you have a phenomenal interpretation of all the types - I've been coming back to your videos for the last 5-6 years and am amazed by the depth of information every time I watch them... :)
You described inferior Fi perfectly. As long as I have to make choices logically, it is extremely easy find out what works best. However, when it comes to something like choosing a major to study, I suddenly have to ask myself "What do I want to do?". This threw me off and caused me to take a year off to think it through.
Scorponizer this is sooo true. I can create a comprehensive strategy as long as I understand the objectives in no time...however I'm constantly beating myself up because I need someone to help me break down my personal goals into logical steps. I can't see myself from outside myself in order to create a strategy for myself. It's so frustrating.
True for me as well. I know exactly what I need to do to explore alternatives of study by combining interests or looking at ones related to my skills, but I'm uncharacteristically paralyzed when I reach the point where I have to decide, because one option is not more logical than the other.
Literally in this process right now
Super true!
Damn it feels good to be a king...I mean ENTJ lol
Croatian Warmaster Yeah my psychology brother!!! Easy lies the head that wears the crown!!
@tahrah11 you are all thinking too small. Better to be the God Emperor of Time and Space
This was a good explanation, but I always wonder why we are always described like this unfeeling machines, cold-hearted, treacherous, murderous? I mean yes, we are bossy, yes we seek power and to be in command mostly because we can't bear to see something that could run smoothly, cough his way through the world like a dying car... yes we are aggressive. But honestly... in real life we are the most random, loud, expressive and mutating people ever. we care deeply for the people we can say we like or love or are our friends, we hate hypocrisy... so mostly we don't lie although we do omit and edit heavily. but we are very not black and white, but orange or purple. you have more chances of pointing out the ENTJ in the room by seeking the loud person, jumping up and down, screaming about the randomest thing... at the same time they try to direct the way the cake will be served and the most efficient way to serve everyone the exact same amount of cake. And for example Sherlock is an INTJ, Loki however is an ENTJ.
+candycottonwithapple You've got an excellent point there. I tried to address those stereotypes in my Revisiting the INTJ video: you can take a look and see what you think: th-cam.com/video/km7ga7HON20/w-d-xo.html&lc=z12ytfqixvbzgl3b404cjbsxclu1xfg4t1c
wow.... this is an accurate description of who i am 😂 our thoughts have caused us to be jumpy and whatnot, energetic. i was surprised when they perceive us as cruel over jumpy and excited but wants to get things done 😂
We are described that way by the touchy-feely types, but it's a non-issue, because they never really do anything about it, do they? ;-)
Elise Curran...except cry to anyone who will listen to them about It!
Yessss tell me about it 😂🎂
The compulsion of ExTJs to gain control over their environments might be stemming from a fear of getting hurt and controlled by the elements in their environment.
Hello there yeghor, I think that you have hit the nail on the head with your observation here. Look at the ENTJ equivalent in the Rheti-Enneagram personality test system and it's analysis and you will see the motivating factors are for the various personalities.
yeghor Agreed. Spot on.
***** type 5 what?
***** who?
yeghor They compensate the lack of inner control for outer control. Ti-Ne(inner control) Te-Ni(outer control)
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I like this guy's english. So "Piercing"!
You forgot one important information.
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Who won the risk game ?
SpyMonkey3D The INTJ. Though, he was the one who made the game, and the game never officially ended due to various issues, but he did essentially take over the economy near the end and it was clear his victory was inevitable.
Michael Pierce Haha, I thought so. It looked like the best strategy.
Thanks for answering.
Michael Pierce
ENTJ here. It figures that he would win a game that he designed. In my experience with INTJ's, they are brilliant strategists and dangerously, insanely amoral. If you foolishly agree to play on their terms, rather than changing the game, you will lose. Fortunately, in the real world most people can see the insanity if they can talk to one for a few minutes, so his plans for world domination could only happen if he could remain unseen throughout the process. If he went before the public, no one would follow him.
SpyMonkey3D thank you so much for asking this, I was honestly distracted for the rest of the video thinking "how can you just reel me in describing a game and two different strategies, but not the payoff?" on an ENTJ video no less.
As an INTJ that's unfortunately true. Which is one of the reason why we work behind the scenes.
I got mistyped as an ENTJ, and I am not brutal in combat, I don't care for leadership, and I don't care about being the winner at all. I am much more live and let live, diplomatic and am willing to capitulate for the sake of respecting individuals. Therefore I believe I'm an ENFP, because I do occassionally use my tertiary Te for a desire for efficiency and getting to the point, but my auxiliary Fi is stronger and focuses on sensitivities and desires of my own and other peoples hearts.
oh, Micheal i was going to say, i think everyone would like it if you made the videos a little longer to explain the types more as PEOPLE and not just the type itself; for an instance, my younger bro is definitely an entj and he has those brutal, driven, and strategical qualities. but often he is lots of fun, often joking, has a great sense of humor and really good with words. so i think perhaps if its not too time consuming you could delve more into the types as they are applied to people and talk a little about their behavior in everyday life and not only their highlighted qualities. I'm sure that would be great for INTJs and ENTJs as it would make them much less intimidating^^
Thanks man, and I've been trying to get my peers who know Myers Briggs to check out your channel and get u some more subscribers, you make the Myers Briggs community proud :) keep it up!
I'll see what I can do -- thank you for the tip! :)
And I'm flattered you're helping to get me publicity! Thank you so much!
*nods* believe me when i say, you deserve it ;)
Matuvo Namiikaze Michael Pierce I second this idea. Most type portraits online are theory only (and much more one-note than yours at that, I'm not fond of celebritytypes' portraits at all for example), few show actual people, real or fictional, who exhibit the thought patterns.
Your type descriptions are fantastic!
Very good account of the ENTJ. Overall, this is a very accurate description of myself. Listening to it the way you describe will probably make some people afraid of us though. Lol. Oh well. Anyway, I just wanted to say that you've done a great job with these cognitive/personality theory videos.
Thank you! You're not the first one to say I've made the ENTJ seem rather intimidating....that wasn't my intention, because the ENTJs I've known aren't intimidating or mean or brutal at all in the conventional sense, but I couldn't think of any other way to describe the mindset. But I'm glad you have enjoyed them!
Michael Pierce
Would a combination of "direct" and "strong" maybe work as a softer experssion? Brutal and demolish are such good words though.
I think those words could work well. I prefer brutal and demolish though because they imply a lot of nuances that I've seen in the ENTJ. I didn't intend for my description to make ENTJ's seem like ruthless monsters. That's not what they are at all. But they also have a brutal, demolishing mentality; that doesn't mean they think that way about people or are all psychopaths at all. But I dunno...
Yeah, I like the words too. They imply a steadfast determination to see this problem go away, period. You think given their desire to be in charge ENTJs would be suitable for tasks that need one man to do? ie. here's a problem that needs to be solved, you're free to do as you wish, go for it type thing?
Definitely. That's what I would think anyway, or that's what I've seen before. But I don't think they're loners or anything, they just like to have appropriate control of things and have something to strive towards.
lol hearing descriptions of my personality type makes me feel like a total jack ass
Fi makes sense because after ensuring I built my life around what I wanted, I sometimes face a void of complete loss regarding that matter. Like a pitfall of freedom where I can’t be afraid to choose incorrectly
Thanks for the info. I appreciate your kind reply regarding these two questions:
1. How ENTJ personality can overlap with ENTP?and what quality of ENTP would make it more creative and invertor type? 2. How about ENTJ relationship and best personlity that may fit with it? for example, ISFJ relationship with ENTJ ?
I like your opening music choice.d
I found this explanation very insightful, clear, and detailed. As many times as I've read all the literature, this was the first time I really understood my need to 'subjugate' my environment so that I'm not put in an uncomfortable position. I also especially appreciated Michael's clear differentiation of strong traits not being 'bad' ones. I'm an ENTJ with a developed F side, because I'm a teacher, and I need that aspect to do my job to my satisfaction; it definitely did not come naturally to me, and my religion helped a lot with that, too. My INTJ step-sister likes to rag me that I'm all feely--we consider that an insult! :-) Oh, and I loved your music!
i honestly just don't understand how others don't think that basing laws and actions on something as subjective as feelings is a great way to push towards the future. if the facts say this, it's simple to deduce that we should move in this direction. what's so hard to think about
Had to speed-up the video. ENTJ.
Haha. Love being a ENTJ. No mercy. You play to win and once you win you continue to dominate.
What happens when the game runs out?
@@metawakening6233 you keep playing to win.
@@JacksTestimonyyeah I take hard lines against bullshit from superiors - and I work to rattle them
thank you for this amazing video
The part about personal values hit me hard
Best MBTI ENTJ video by far
I just fight with my brother, i want to get house job done, and he just blocking me, i tell him to move, he snap at me, he just work 12 hour, and i just got back from 8 hours trip to another city for another family matter, so i raised my voice, screaming to him immediately, to crush his resistance, i said something hurtfull so he will angry and go away, he did. And after that, i finished my work, so everyone can be more comfortable around the house after i cleaning it well, and i fill satisfied by it, also in the same time, i feel litle bit guilty after shouting to him, but once again, i need to finished it.
And watching this video, making me feel like i am not the only one, there's some people like me out there, ruthless jerk who actually care to other, but don't hesitate to use very rude way to showing it, because deep down, i know they will understand someday, in the right moment when they need it.
Very good description tho, the general idea of it
Well done.
-entj
So, so, so true about arguments at 8:13. I had a student argue with me today, when I called him out on some poor behavior, and he tried to continue his excuses until I broke down his points, when he finally called out, "ok, ok...you win...I'm done." He was clearly feeling the effects of my "completely breaking down the plausibility of his view." I also think that we do take a very strong offensive; I've been noticing that more lately, that I am coming across very strongly. As a teacher, I have to use more of my inferior feeling function than many ENTJs, because the students need me to so they can feel comfortable in my class, but woe to him to tries to oppose the way I run my classroom!
ENTJs want things now, ofc they can plan things and usually do, but efficiency is not necessarily the central oart of it, it is the tool to get things as soon as possible, type A personalities
Are you falling asleep?:/
MissArBell Yes.
1. I don't think Peter Thiel is an ENTJ - more like an INTJ.
2. This was singularly the best material on ENTJs thus far that I've uncovered. I am an ENTJ and the point you made about the desire for a vague sense of justice is really accurate - I haven't heard any other source elaborate on this. Furthermore, I did have a crisis because I didn't really know what I wanted.
Great Break Down👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Where can I get this more complex version of risk?
James Farragher Well, unfortunately its not commercialized -- my friend came up with the rules. A lot of people have asked for them, but I haven't yet gotten them together in any clear format. The best I have is a sort of summary posted in the description of my Update Fe vs. Fi video.
I mean, the rules were kind of rough as it was, because we all knew each other and it was a social event for us, but I'm working on it.
9:41 - great example
You should make a video on how all types play a game of risk
When the environment takes over, entjs can break down and turn into withdrawn, dysfunctional people when alone. But still maintain personality and expression in front of others
ENTJs sound sexy. -INTJ
Sharp. Sturdy. Active.
My girlfriend is an ENTJ, I'm an INTP, sometimes I just want her to go away, cannot have an intellectual conversation with her, interrupts me every two seconds and concentrates more on if I rarely used the wrong terminology to describe something or a situation, but does not concentrate on the "message", it gets very annoying sometimes and makes me question her intelligence.
I'm an ENTJ female and honestly, it's really easy for us to overpower someone "weak". We are incredibly smart, but I also find myself just rambling about different topics so much that I don't even realize half the things I'm saying and I miss the point. Especially if I'm arguing, I throw in random bits of information and hope it makes sense and confuses them lol! The thing with ENTJ is that we're always trying to be dominant and look like this great leader or a "God", so we usually target the much quieter, easily-influenced people and impress them with our brilliance and power. When we're dealing with someone who matches our "power and status", that's when we REALLY get down to business and talk/act in a professional way. Nonetheless, we will try to overpower anybody in any way possible. It's sooo bad lol!
Actually .. ENTJ are one of the dumbest intuitive types ... Like estj are on of the dumbest sensor types
Ti goes very deep in understanding
Whilst Te does not go deeper, it is more scattered and basic
Wow, I’m an ENTJ and this didn’t sounds familiar at all! You didn’t even mention our charm!
Its the ENTP who are quite charming. ENTJs... not really
@@timefortee Oprah, Bono, MLK - they are ENTJ examples and I find them to be very charming.
@@trevawhitmoyer682 MLK is an INFJ, Oprah is an ENFJ.
You might not be an ENTJ or you just don't understand
Hello there Michael, it sounds like my type here (and by induction me) can be a right nightmare to other people. Maybe you should have a look at my IPIP_NEO OCEAN personality test scores? Then again, thikning about it maybe you shouldn't since when I did the test my modesty and sympathy scores were 0. That meant that 100% of the other people who did that particular test were mode modest and sympathic than I was. Also this was just the start of it... lets just say that the vast majority of people who did the test were far less critical and more agreeable than I was.
However, I did the test in one of the darkest periods of my life, maybe I would be more agreeable nowadays?
Shout out to my favorite type -INTP
Hi shadow
Lol think am ENTJ.. Made videos about roaring..
Not all people who jump from the angel falls will break their neck, saying so is like trying to make Te conclusion look absolute like a Ti conclusion, which doesn't really happen since Ti is absolute logic while Te is dynamic logic, so a Te user after having all that data will more likely say or think, If so many people has broken their neck jumping from the angel falls, if I jump from the angel falls I will more likely break my neck, but the Te user too, by default would seek for contradictory information to the former information presented, to balance things out and look at what is more likely to happen, in a rational way, Te users look for as many sources as they can to gather information, which makes them less likely to fall in echo chambers like Ti users do, since Ti users can be lazy in changing their absolute logic and preffer to stay in their understanding which a lot of times is not proven by the object, like the Te judgement, Ti judgement is created by the subject.
+Michael Pierce
Would you be revisiting ENTJ? I would love to see your model of relationships between types used with my type :3
+Eddycurrents I plan to revisit all of the types, it'll just take me a little while. However, that little model is very pattern oriented...so honestly it would end up being just slightly different than the INTJ one, with the pattern being ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, ISFP, ESTJ, ISTJ, ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ, ESTP, ISTP, ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP.
There's been a fair amount of argument about that lineup, which is why I emphasize that its very function based and mathematical, and is meant to show the theoretical "familiarity" of different types with each other's way of thinking, and not how well they may actually get along as people.
+Michael Pierce Cool! Thanks for the info. Will still be looking forward to it :)
What is the intro music?
If he’s talking too slow, increase speed to 1.75. Overall good video!
About the whole difficulty in explaining what they do “it” for, whatever it may be, is it possible that several glimpses of reasons they do it for come to light over time and make it difficult to boil them all down into one reason other than “for truth” or what have you? I find this is what happens here. The worst interview question or personal statement point is always “your reasons for wanting to be part of this company” or “reasons for seeking to undertake this program.” I get too tactical or too all-encompassing with it 🤦🏽♀️
So, can an ENTJ be SLE in socionics?
Who here roars at their camera for fun? :)
You don't like ENTJs, do you?
R. He’s an infj...probably not lol
Infj’s get along best with enfp’s
@@alib4486 well INFJs get along with many types and if we want to talk about NTJs, the INFJ prefers the INTJ over the ENTJ. INTJs are wiser, calmer, smarter and more human.
Peter Thiel:
INTJ?
Trolle Trollkarl Celebritytypes, where these example people were taken from, have since changed it from ENTJ to ISTJ due to a reader's feedback.
Komatik I see. Thank you!
watched this with my ESFJ girlfriend and she was horrified. think I was too.
Lol just making a point
Ah. I think there is that underlying theme to us. This part of us that is so dark and cold. But I think also any mature entj has some compassion and will use their Fi to some varying degree. This video is very one-dimensional imo. Personally I'm not a bad guy and i care about others (in the moment though, out of sight out, of mind for sure)
The fact is these videos are completely stereotypical and say nothing about how mature types manifest
I don't think this video was completely stereotypical at all. He clearly explained, each time he used a 'negative' description, that is was not actually a negative thing. Most don't do that, in my experience.
+Elise Curran k
12:04
Sh*t gets real
Question for you Michael Pierce, just as a thought experiment i'm attempting to type some well known characters in movies and I stumbled upon the typing of Emperor Palpatine from the StarWars universe as typically INTJ. He seemed to strive for power above all else so I'm wondering what your take is on him; INTJ or ENTJ?
Michael-Anthony Clement Well, fictional characters are incredibly tricky, as I'm sure you know, and in my own thought experiments of typing them, I have found that, despite myself, I end up relying on set portraits of each type that I compare each character to -- basically stereotypes that I've personally made up. Which is not how one should ever go about typing real people, and which I have sought to eliminate in the official fictional typings on my blog. But in any case, with all of that said, its my current opinion that Palpatine is more of an ENTJ than an INTJ, primarily because of his much more active striving for power. But that's just me.
@@MichaelPiercePhilosophya Narcissist’s false self doesn’t have a personality type.
Most ENTJ's are probably not psychopaths, but most psychopaths are probably ENTJ's.
Or INTJ...
Any type can be a psychopath. There are many INFJ's in history that were psychopathic.
and ENTPs, based on some polls. INTPs also but not really psychopaths since they don't care to gain benefit in the external world.
@@caramelunicorn8023 F types can't be psychopaths. Usually narcissists.
The Psychopaths and narcissists false self doesn’t have a personality type! Narcissists choose ENTJ to mirror because we’re most like the sheep of the personality types and the wolves use our type to hide their entitlements behind their fake imitation of our meekness.
Could you provide a brief explanation of why Muhammad Ali is an ENTJ to you?
I have not identified Muhammad Ali -- I only used some pictures of him to make a visual point.
Say, what do you think it would be like if an ENTJ and ENTP were to enter into a debate? Seeing as they do it for extremely different purposes, would they just leave seeing it as a waste of time?
Kieran Kitchener Well, I think a lot of other factors would come into play in every argument. But the prevailing problem, when a problem comes up, I would suspect would be that the ENTJ is more interested in establishing what the most correct, rational answer is, and laying that down without a doubt or else defending their own position with the intent of winning. The ENTP however, is more interested in excavating a beautiful idea or system within the mind.
For instance, I imagine Socrates (ENTP) debating Aristotle (ENTJ): Socrates often walk up to someone, get into a conversation, the conversation turns to philosophy, the person explains their position, and Socrates begins asking questions to determine all the different aspects of their position, to further excavate it and see if it makes sense from all angles as an idea, and more often than not they leave enlightened, but much farther from certainty than when they started. The ENTJ, generally, would dislike this, because what's the point of pummeling this idea if you're not going to get around to determining what the most rational answer is? When I read Aristotle he is always working towards a goal, and never leaves open ends. He wants a conclusion, and is always happy to *not* bother to investigate something for now if it doesn't serve to reach the conclusion he's after. Socrates however, goes all over the place, because its the investigation and not the conclusion he's after. So, should they argue, I think Socrates might grant Aristotle food for thought, but ultimately Aristotle will continually try to shut off and make certain conclusions about Socrates' lines of inquiry, which Socrates will continually try to open up, causing Aristotle to grow more aggressive in shutting Socrates himself down.
That's just some musings on my part.
I'm an Entp and one of my closest friends is an entj. We spend like 80% of our time debating about politics, music, feminism, and even mbti (he thinks he's an entp). I noticed when we argue he tends to care more about trying to prove himself right whereas I just want to prove him wrong not caring if I'm right.
Trump is an ENTJ. I know because as only an INTP would, I ran quotes of his through Cambridge analytics to understand him better.
entj vs intj ? plz
+ToStand in a nutshell, ENTJ: first we do, then we adjust. INTJ: ill start as soon as plan A, B, C, and D are ready. Of course there is MUCH more, but this is the main thing
9727diego
i think it's a bit more complicated then that, but i appreciate your contribution
ToStand emphasis on the "in a nutshell" and the " Of course there is MUCH more, but this is the main thing". i know its more complicated.
apart form that, you are welcome
9727diego
yes but what i meant is that what you said is not really true since it's a short generalization ; i mean, someone who would like to know whether he's intj or entj couldn't do it based on what you said ; entjs can plan and intjs can act sporadically, it's more complicated and intricated then that (especially ENTJ 5s and INTJ 8s, which are often mixed up)
ToStand Well... yes, it is indeed a generalization, i wrote the comment emphasizing it is, and there for should be taken as one. Now, if someone come to a random comment on a random video of TH-cam to see whats the difference between an INTJ, and a ENTJ, and settles for a short 21 word answer that has 2 acclamations of it being a generalization...... Its not my problem.
to sum up. I know you disliked the description i gave, or at leas disagree with it due to it being to simple, but i wasnt, and i doubt anyone was gonna go on a full description of whats the 10000 differences between a INJT and a ENTJ, because probably no one is willing to dedicate so much time to a youtube comment,so instead i did what most people would have doesnt and gave you a short and generalized response.
PS: sorry for the long text, here is a cute cat gif as a reward for reading the whole comment:
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George Clooney cannot possibly be an ENTJ
ENTP or ENTJ... I would guess ENTP.
I think he is ENFJ
The Wildling ENFJ is also a good guess, although I think he is a NT... compare him with James Lipton (ENFJ) who speaks in a very emotional manner. Clooney is charming but I don't see the warmth.
thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/2014/04/29/clooneys-mum-confirms-engagement/
"On an intellectual level, they are equals. That is very important to him."
Amal Alamuddin is a "brilliant" lawyer, perhaps INTJ (?).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney
"I believe [Donald Rumsfeld] thinks this is a war that can be won, but there is no such thing anymore. We can't beat anyone anymore." That's a 'P' talking...
I don't see the coldness of an ENTJ on Clooney
Am I a ENTJ or a ENTP maybe INTJ? :)
what type is Michael Pierce?
My thoughts exactly...
i think somewhere it says something about being INFJ? wouldn't have been my guess though
+C J Allison whatever it is he sounds slightly scared of ENTJs...
Mariah Faretto
LOL😆
Infj
Overall, I like the description, but I think you confuse some values of judgement. Let me explain you. It´s true that ENTJs can be tactless with the feelings of others, but sadism, for instance, it´s related more to the soul of the person. You can have an ENFJ, which uses extroverted feeling (a very sensitive function with the others), that is a psychopath and extremely sadistic. Histrionic, psychopathic, narcisistc, sadistic traits, are intrinsically related to the soul of the person and that it´s independent from their psychological type.
Just one clarification. I saw in Celebretytypes that they show a correlation between personality disorders and personality types. So it may be true that ENTJ may have a higher tendency than other types towards sadistic behavior. Now, it's also interesting the fact that they highly correlate ENFJ (probably the most sensitive type towards the needs of others) with the narcissistic personality, so this validates my point, in the sense that it's not a specific cognitive function--in any case it would be the combination of the four an not just one cognitive function- the main cause for amoral behavior but the person's soul.
Those celebrity typings are a joke
Why does the MBTI pair INTPs with spooky ENTJs as the ideal match? ENTJs are like nukes with a face and INTPs are like tiny intelligent fuzzy bunnies in the prairie.
They both highly value knowledge and aptitude, both are inclined to ignore emotions in favor of logical arguments and both have high standards for almost everything.
About the... ENTJs are like nukes with a face (going to laugh for a few days)
I just love this response, as an INTP myself. I don't think the world can handle the terrifying team up of an INTP and ENTJ.
It's like the visual of a mouse scaring an elephant. ENTJs respect intelligence and hard logic and INTPs are masters of hard logic. ENTJs aren't going to judge you for your quirks or eccentricities because they are themselves, eccentric, in a sense. They'll judge you for what you have in your brain, and INTPs (generally) have amazing brains.
+Loren Aguilar because Te and Ti supposedly compliment each other. INTPs are more ideal than the ISTPs because Ns prefer Ns, Ss prefer Ss. i haven't found this to be the case - i'm perfectly capable of engaging ISTPs in complex intellectual conversations as i can with INTPs, but INTPs come across as more weird and lazy whereas ISTPs will actually apply what we discuss.
11:07, look like me, i guess i estj
Bill Gates is an INTP.
Seeing as intps shadow is entj might be the cause for mistyping 😋
Was muhammad ali an entj?
oiy234 I couldn't tell you -- I'd have to look more into it. I thought the pictures of him helped explain my point, though.
Sorry, I took it far too literally.
SCARY MOTHER EFFERS. MY DADS AN ENTJ, IVE HAD AN AWFUL LIFE BC OF IT. MAY I FIND PEACE AND MERCY IN THE WORLD. GOD BLESS ME. LOL but really. infp and entj dad = bad news bears :(
Same here, I feel you :/
:(
Perhaps you have only met American ENTJs
How does "non-American" ENTJs seem like? I'm genuinely curious.
@@raihankameel320 not the loud obnoxious psychopaths the American ENTJs are portrayed as.
@@theloniusmonk1263 Not even American ENTJs are like that lol. They are NTs for God's sake. They aren't brutes. It's stupid stereotypes. Brutes are more SPs.
People don't even analyze other when typing other people. They either use the letters or misinformed knowledge of cognitive functions. Actually I think it's worse, they use simple description of types, thus creating the notion that ExTJs are yelling idiots who only want to be boss for social approval.
@@raihankameel320 Hence why I said "portrayed as'' Most American ENTJs are in fact not ENTJs at all, but mistyped ESTJs and ESTPs because MBTI as a system doesn't work.
@@theloniusmonk1263 Agree with that. There's an ENTJ youtuber but once he took Socionics apparently he's ESTP in that system. I know it's a different system but real ENTJ I know are typed as ENTJ as well both in MBTI & Socionics. Also they have scientific mind (NT) not simple brute like stupid stereotypes say.
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nonsenses......
As an ENTJ I speak on behalf of all of those of the master race.... Get some passion and charisma in your delivery. This video put me into a coma.
Too long intro for an entj. On to the point plz lol
Bill Gates is an introvert
Nope, read his autobiography or watch his documentaries.
+Elf Machine I was about to say the same thing to you.He was a hard core introvert.Steve Ballmer tried to get him into a social club at Harvard,but Bill got burned out.He's most likely an INTP.
Well,let's make a short analysis.
He's a NT for sure.
He's introverted.
He might be a J though..But he doesn't act like Elon Musk who is a typical INTJ.
Nicolae Spataru No of-course not. No type is the same geez -_-. Elon Musk definitely doesn't act like Nikola Tesla,who is also a typical INTJ. No one is 100% Introvert Or Extrovert. Even jung said, if that is the case. You belong in a mad house. You have percentages of 55% to 90% varying. I think that also dictates a lot about Behaviors.
Also the first letter codes, are more about behaviors. Whats more important is the cognitive functions.
You are also taking some things too black and white. For example ENTJs are known, to be the most Introverted-Extroverts. And INFJs the most Extroverted introverts. They even have the nickname. Social Introverts.
And like the video explained. You have 2 types of ENTJs the more Extroverted one. And the more Introverted one,who likes to work from the background. I think Bill Gates Fits the second type better.
''Gates was very prov-active, he would sometimes say things like; That's the most stupid idea ever'' If you wanted to convince,you had to convince me.
(out of the documentary)
He also likes to debate,very Te.
Aside from how a person behaves.
Gates,Nikola Tesla,Elon Musk. And all other INTJs still follow the same patterns. When achieving their goal. Same with INTP.
Also there is the Difference between , INTJ-A and INTJ-T.
Also a lot of websites whith people who actually study this field. Typed him as ENTJ. I think they know better than us.
I think your missing out a lot important factors,and i think you are not really as versed in the theory as you think.
It might sound harsh,but that's what i'm observing.
Elf Machine I was not trying to say that every INTJ is the same,but we can see patterns in their behaviour.Check out "Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire", a book recommended by Charlie Munger,one of his friends.Most people,in general,are horrible at reading people, so just because a website says something,it doesn't mean it's true.To say that he's an extrovert is just against the facts.
How condescending.
The amount of stereotyping is ridiculous.
The hilariousness is that intjs and intps also claimed Bill Gates is being there personality type so there is 3 rational types that claim he belongs in their camp.
You'll never see this much Ti in a Entj or a Intj :) th-cam.com/video/GmeGPudmSjs/w-d-xo.html
@@LarsGuerra I wasn't doubting or saying that wasn't true. that he is full of TI. I just meant there were so many sources claiming Bill Gates as their type. And you don't need to validate your statement by giving me a link. I was not in doubt.
@@LarsGuerra secondly my original comment was laughing at how many people were trying to claim Bill is this nt type or that nt type.
I hate how noobs are trying to give me the business.